Cutting Down Trees Right Next to a Building (episode 5)
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- When the stakes are high you better be on the mark. Although I"m confident in my tree cutting abilities, I"m not that confident lol. Today I show you how I go about clearing away some trees from my soon-to-be sawmill shed without risking the trees falling on my shed. I've had a few close calls in my day with trees and buildings but today is not the day for that! Watch my tractor skidding winch get put into action as another of example of why it's one of my favourite pieces of equipment around here.
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Hiya Sandy! No reminder needed at least for me. I always hit the like button at the start as I know I’ll like the video. They’re always interesting and you have a great easy going vibe. Easy to watch and always make me want longer videos. Anyway, thanks so much and keep that content coming, you’re doing wonderful! Bradley
I appreciate all your support Bradley! Nice to have kind folks like yourself along each video
Sandy, you're a power house of ambition when you start something like this. Here's something to consider - and use it or not:
My cabin in Alaska sits in 2 meter thick ancient river silt over an older yet glacial formed gravel bed. In addition, frost heaving is a big problem with the frost depth about as you have.
The technique used for the cabin was to dig down to gravel, drop some large rocks in the bottom of the hole and, as a foundation, use rail road ties as pilings. The problem is that ground frost in the winter would have frozen to and 'grabbed' the pilings and heave them up - to be settled back down in the summer. To get rid of the ground frost raising the rail road tie pilings, a wrapping of construction plastic around the below ground portion of the tie was stapled in place. The vertical tie was then lowered into the hole and medium rocks and then gravel was used for back fill. When the frozen ground heaves (every winter) the ice slips on the plastic and can't budge it and the rocks permit the surface water to drain downward and away. The weight of the above ground structure is more than enough to overcome even the slightest movement.
Something to maybe keep in your bag of tricks.
Works for me.
Joe S, Trapper Creek, Alaska with Idaho for the winters
Hey Joe! I appreciate you taking the time to share that technique as I haven’t heard of that before and was interesting to read! Hope the start of fall is going well for you! Thanks again for watching
@@sawingwithsandy 😏 Joe
Just an idea your local rental shop for skid steer attachments. I almost bet they have a cement mixer that would go on your mini skid steer runs off hydraulics.
Grind the stumps down before you start digging for the new building, just a thought.
Good call there Kevin!
Good start to an exciting project. Oh the fun I could have with that red pine plantation! Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hey Frank! I feel very privileged for sure for having the red pine forest
Do you get building permits for your out buildings
Good question
Just a thought Sandy - Why not grind down those 4 stumps now so they won't be in your way later on, like when you need to access the rear of the sheds?
I think that’s a good idea!
Awesome job Sandy , homework always pays off ! Thanks for sharing !!!!! 😊🙏👍❤️
Thank you for coming along for the build series David!
Posts in the ground will rot where they break surface. This due to available moisture and oxygen. Consider shou sugi ban (charring the wood) or a poly or tar coating about 1 or 2 feet below ground and a little above. It will extend your post life significantly.
He is using pressure treated posts
@@tomginaz
Yeah, I know. I also have experience with our modern pressure treated posts. Believe me, if you want them to last at all, shou sugi ban or tar where they break surface.
That was a lot of work even before the first nail. That's a lot of concrete and my back is glad it's you not me. Good vid. Thanks.
I’m sore just thinking about it lol
Hello Sandy. I saw Amy Wilkerson (YT) use a rubber sleeve to put around posts that would be below ground level. I have also seen tar used as a barrier against moisture and the Earth. Lately, I have cut trees down in my yard but did not have the room you have to drop them in. I used straps around trees as an anker and a winch in the middle to pull the tree down. I did make the wedge cut on the front and a back cut to leave about 1/4". I used the wench to pull the trees down. Mine were only about 30' tall where yours look to be at least 60'. I had 15' to put the tree down without hitting anything. This structure will be great! Have good days!
Looking good Sandy,
Thank you Brian!
I totally get having to re-structure your work spaces, and work flows! I am doing the same on my farm.
Just cleared 100×90 this summer, first time attempting a controlled fall like this. Used a regular car winch, synthetic rope is a lot easier to handle, great job. Looking forward to build, trying to tackling sawmill building next summer watching closely from north Minnesota thanks for sharing Sandy! 👍
Curious Sandy. You're nearly always working alone. Does talking to people for the video make it feel more like someone is there with you?
Hey Sandy, I put up a couple new clothesline poles I dug down and cemented them in but I wrapped mine with Ice and water shield from the bottom to just above grade to help keep moisture away from the pole, just an idea.
Just a thought for your saw shop. I've seen a lot of saw shops and one thing I liked the most is adding a room at the end that the power head is at that you can roll the power head in for servicing the saw. I like your place. I'm the process of doing the same thing as you. Keep safe.
I can’t tell if you have accounted for tractor access around the far end of the new shack.
Good start, Sandy. Last time I was at my nephews (old) ranch, I was taking down a lot of trees for him (I sent a picture of the log stack afterward, a long time ago). There was one, though, I refused to drop for him. Too much of a chance that, if it didn't fall right, it would take out his power line to the house. (What's that old saying... one "Ah-shit" wipes out all the atta-boys)?! The winch line was a GOOD idea; I'm proud of you. Glad to see you brought out the mini-ex to dig the footing holes. I wish I was there to operate it for you. Get those foundations in the ground before the first freeze, and the rest become academic.... Keep it up, bro...............
Hey there Carl! I smartened up a little bit this time around and cut the trees back before building. I figure one these days I won’t be lucky and I’ll land a tree on my sheds. The cable was nice just for extra insurance for sure. Im confident but not too confident lol. I’ll be out on the mini ex real soon digging some holes. Im just hoping the weather stays decent for a few more weeks
Howdy Sandy- it’s always exciting to start a new build. I feel for you having to mix the concrete. Do you have access to an electric mixer? I use mine running it off a generator where I don’t have power. Wishing you the very best with your sawmill shed build. God bless
There's a friendly face! Thanks for coming along for the video today! Unfortunately I don't have access to an electric mixer.
@@sawingwithsandy I would suggest renting or buying one. The motor on them is smaller than a person would think and mine runs beautifully off of the generator. Here in the states harbor freight sells them for around $200 which will be money well spent with the amount of different projects you get up to.
I'm really interested in seeing your plans on digging a hole 2x2 wide and 4 feet deep. Should be interesting to see your technique.
Will be a big hole for sure. I’ll just put the mini ex up to the task
Thinking you may want to consider cutting down the tree you had the pulley on. nice job
I think you're right. I pulled from a bit too high up and now it's got a good lean on it
Like I said, it looks big now, but they all fill up fast! How bad was the sticker shock on those 6x6's??
That's for sure Tim!
Off the subject a bit Sandy, but whatever are you going to do to dispose of that slash pile. Most would just burn it but that's not possible in a pine forest.
Hey Gary! I was thinking I may run it over with the forestry mulcher one of these days to see what it would do
Better size those ones. Should make some nice 2x6.
Sure will make some nice lumber
Sandy why don't you get one of those water totes so that way you can have water out there when you need it I mean 500 gallons is a lot and you'll have it out there if you need it
I think that's a good idea Arnold. I"m going to start looking around a little bit to see what I can find! Hope you've had a great weekend
You're awesome Sandy, keep going. You're doing great.👍🇨🇦
Thank you Lynn!
😮 💪👍
Project is moving right along
sorry Sandy been in rehab for three months
Hey Rodney! Great to hear from you
That’s a sound decision for the concrete. Work smarter, not harder. I’m glad that at least Canadian’s know that correct term for a “footing”. Seems like so many TH-camrs can’t get that right. They call it “footers”, which makes absolutely no sense. When hiking and you’re trying to get a foothold, you’re looking for a footing, not a “footer”. I’m retired building inspector and I’ve inspected hundreds of footings , but I’ve never heard of a footer until I retired and started watching TH-cam.
Excellent video Sandy.
Hi Roger! Great to hear from you and thanks for checking out the video. Yeah there's all kinds of terms thrown around and although I do make some errors I try my best to keep it accurate. I'm bad for calling purlins strapping out of habit.
@@sawingwithsandy unfortunately you’re right, there are a bunch of different terms used. Blue prints use standard terms, that’s why I find it strange.
To get the same rigidity, that you’re achieving by sinking the post into the ground, you would have to use four or five foot diagonal bracing. Nobody wants to run into that, so two or three feet would be sufficient to keep the building from racking.
Same goes for your roof. The dead load, plus the snow load can be diminished by increasing the pitch. 4/12 pitch maybe 2x10’s. 8/12, 2x6’s.
Been watching for about 4 years, I enjoy your demeanor and content. Thanks for replying
Awesome winch work, kicking some butt.
Good afternoon Sandy Iwas going ri sugest the grinding of the stump while it is wide open but somebody did already . I will .ention though when i use another tree to pull down another i put my poully all the down to the roots the trees is stronger even if you have to more pull on it the trees don't give like it did on that one you had trouble with so be careful when you pull like that you either snap the tree or uproot the tree now winching is different because you are trying to keep the butt end of the from digging in well have a great week end P.S.cut one of my big pine log today 16 feet long and 15 inches at the small end
That’s great tip. I think I rigged these a little high and likely pushed the anchor tree over a bit
That’s a nice pine you brought down by the sounds of it!
Great job as normal.
I'm just about done with my sawmill shed. Putting the metal roof on tomorrow.
Sandy, I think you are going to do a wonderful job of this building just as you have in the past. Please stay safe in the process. We are looking forward to the final product.
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I think forking out the money for those 6x6s is an excellent choice. You won't regret it. I'm impressed with the size as well, another thing you won't regret. I know the pouring of the concrete is stressing you out but I'm sure you've done your research and lost sleep some sleep, so you'll be fine. You make felling a tree look so easy but its not always. Hope your weekend continues to be as productive as this video, your kicking some tail!🤘🍁🍂
Thanks Jill! Yeah the concrete is the only part of the project that I’m. It looking forward to. I don’t really like concrete work or shingles. Anything with wood and I’m on board lol
Some of the good salvaged metal and wood may be enough to make a small,longer term,covered drying rack for some of those slabs. That would maybe keep the lumber section more organized,and easier to stack.
Very true. I"ll be sure to see about that before the snow flies as that little pile will be gone under the snow before I know it
Just getting started, got my base for the sawmill built today, hopefully will be cutting logs in a couple weeks. Anxious to see your new bulding, I am wanting to make mine oversized too, room for stacking boards etc. Appreciate your channel, ideas, and lessons.
Thanks Brian! Your build sounds like it’s getting go just like mine! Be sure to keep me updated how your build goes
It's gonna be a nice building. Off subject- Are you gonna have time to go to the Paul Bunyan show this year?
Hey Mike! Yeah I’ll be at the show on the Saturday for sure. Will you be down that way for the show?
@@sawingwithsandy A buddy and I are gonna make a day trip of it. It's only about a to hour drive for us. Hope to meet you there. What area you gonna be in on Saturday? We are gonna go on Saturday
Hey Mike. I'll likely be close to the Woodmizer, Eastonmade area I figure. I"ll have on my red shirt and/or a red plaid jacket and my typical ball cap.
@@sawingwithsandy Looking forward in meeting with you. I'll be the big fat one, in all black on a walker or wheelchair with one fake leg(lol). Safe travels and see ya on the 5th.
I'll keep an eye out for ya Mike
Winter project: Build a flatbed panel for the log forwarder trailer. Also when using a winch to direct a tree, preload the winch before cutting.
It was a good trailer for sure but I actually don’t have it anymore . I use the three point hitch grapple now instead
Another tip for winching trees to direct their fall: attach the winch line as high as possible on the tree being cut for better leverage.
Cool video Sandy.
Thank you!
nice plan
Thanks Ken!
👍great video, Sandy
Hey Paul! Good to hear from ya
@@sawingwithsandy I can't wait for the rest of it 😎
Getting close to the point of no return. Digging and pouring concrete footings is serious business. Just make sure you dig you footing holes the 4' deep plus the depth of the form plus a little extra for gravel. This will get the top of the footing to be at the 4' frost line and will prevent any frost heaving problems. Also, if you can, make sure you determine the low spot of each post location and reference off there. This will allow the lowest post spot to be exactly 12' off the ground, and then you can cut the remaining posts to be level to that post and have nice level beams from that point. Since you bought 16' posts, you don't have any wiggle room to get the 12' height you want and the 4' footing depth.
It will be a tight one for sure. I"ll likely end up going to 11' just due to variation in hole depth but I'm ok with that. Lots to consider for sure with the hard part coming right up. I'm not looking forward to concrete that's for sure!
Sandy i had to pour concrete out at my off grid hunting property. I put an ibc tote on my trailer and filled it with water, i also have a harbor freight electric concrete mixer that i plug into my kioti tractor with an inverter to power it. Made mixing and pouring concrete out in the middle of nowhere much easier. Hope you can come up with something like that or knowing you I'm sure you will come up with a better solution. Look forward to your next vid.
That's a good idea with the IBC tote! I should look around for one as I could use it for all kinds of jobs.
Whether you are empowered with that infamous sludge that you carry around, some energy pick me up or that you're blessed with a bunch of healthy genetics, I enjoy watching you kick butt when you get a plan. Keep them coming cause lots of us are watching. Certainly appreciate your sharing your thoughts, experience and creative expertise . Stay safe, healthy, strong, wise and successful. Blessings and prayers neighbor🤠to you🇨🇦 and family in Jesus's Name. ☝🙏🙌💪👊
I appreciate that strong support and well wishes Jerry! Thank you