Beyond The Goals - Introducing The Central Desert Hunter 2.0
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ม.ค. 2018
- Coming February 21st, 2018, The Central Desert Hunter 2.0 is ready for release. Straight line flights well past 100 meters. Well Beyond The Goals!
The Aboriginal boomerang was once used by the Australian Aborigines to hunt large game at ranges out to 100 meters or more. Rediscover this ancient survival technology with Benjamin Scott from Throwsticks.com
Straight Flight Boomerang Thrower: Benjamin Scott
Filmed with a DJI Mavik Pro drone by Sean McReynolds
OMG that is an amazing throwing stick. It's absolutely crazy how much range you are getting out of it.
Glad you like. Thanks
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Wow Scott! It looks like you have done it. 100 meters plus and only veering off a little at the very end of the flight.Incredible video footage with the drone. Broadbent will be excited about these flights. This has to be the first drone video of a Kylie's flight too. Great job on perfecting your aerodynamics.
Glad you like it. Yeah I can make them veer off to the right or left depending on the exact angle of release. I always try to throw at 3 o'clock but 2:30 makes them go left. I believe this is the first kylie footage using a drone. I think we need to play with the frame rate to get a better quality upload, however. TH-cam really blurred the footage when it was compressed.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Great series of videos. These throwing sticks make a lot more sense for hunting. I predict worldwide championships with in 4 years, using targets like they do in archery. I also predict laminated plywood with carbon fibre for the competition throwing sticks. We will probably get the first accidental maiming a few years after that unfortunately. I see big things.
LOL I'd love to see what a truly great group of competitive throwers could do. I'm just an average joe.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
That's so impressive! I'm hoping to order one for Christmas... :D
it really does blow me away with how far and how straight these things fly! :D
Me too...! I never get used to it and each time I go out to throw, I can't believe it's going to happen until it does. They are magical.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Fantastic to see this channel sharing the knowledge of the Aboriginal people. It's a dying knowledge as many of the newer generations aren't learning from their elders. I would love to see you one day able to take a trip to Australia and make a kylie with some actual Aboriginal people.
BTW Aborigine/ Aborigines is considered a derogatory term and rarely ever used anymore. Whilst Aboriginal is not the name all Aboriginal people call themselves by (they use their local area name (Wiradjuri, Murri, etc) Aboriginal is an acceptable term as it is inclusive of all the Australian mainland (not Torres Straight Islander's) first nations people. This is not an Aboriginal word as it is used to describe many first nations people around the world and thus the A is capitalised to reflect the Australian Aboriginal people.
It's not always agreed upon by all Aboriginal people as to what they preferred to be referred to as, but Aboriginal is considered by most to be acceptable. Indigenous Australian, to a lesser extent, is acceptable as indigenous is more commonly used to refer to plants and animals so some see it as a lessening of themselves to being part of the wildlife. Others see it as inclusive of the Torres Straight Islander's.
Just thought I would share that :)
Buddha Mack,
Thanks for this information. So you are saying it is more correct to say, "This was a tool used by the Australian Aboriginal peoples" rather than "This was a tool used by the Australian Aborigines"?
I am not from Australia but I want to be respectful to their native peoples and I appreciate your feedback.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
That is correct. Aborigines isn't PC as they say today. I wouldn't get too caught up over the terminology though, I know some Aboriginals that still call themselves Aboriginies or black fellas, not everyone is as concerned about political correctness.
I've been amazed at actually how political boomerangs and kylies can be, but most people are just enthusiasts and having fun, as they should. Thanks again for the helpful information. I'll be conscious of this going forward.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Hi Throwstick dude. Have you ever heard of super white paint? It's the whitest white ever and iis amazing for painting boomerangs. There's also a blackest black that is conspicuously black. I paint mine half and half and they look like birds in flight. Anyway if you were to paint one of those throwsticks in super white and film this again, you'd see the stick super easily and it'd be even more impressive! Those paints are brilliant. The black is SO black it looks like a hole in reality.... The white is SO white it looks like highly reflective metal in sunlight.....
I'll have to look that up for next time. Thanks for the tip. Is it a certain brand or is there a vendor recommendation for it that you have?
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Wohooo amazing my friend :))
Adam,
That's what I say about your throwing whenever I watch your channel!!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Haha thank you my friend :)) Our Boomerang video have over 800K btw :))
That's amazing! No wonder I can't keep up with my orders. Thank-you for your work. Maybe someday I'll figure out how to do more left handed models.
Ben
You should ,)) hehe have a nice day my friend :))
Can you do a video specifically on the airfoil on the karli? I want to make one, and have made successful boomerangs, but don’t know the specific foil shape
Mikey,
Throwstick airfoils vary in different parts of Australia and the World. I'm using a basic semi-lenticular airfoil. Visit my history and science page at www.throwsticks.com/history_science.html for more information on the science of kylies. The balance and tuning is extremely complex but that page gives an overview of the basics. It took me years of research to achieve the ranges and precision I am now consistently getting out of my work.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Bloons sent me here.
I would think they would be great for survival hunting by throwing into a flock of birds. Cool stuff.
This is the coolest add for kylies ever. Do you make any out of wood?
Thanks. Glad you like it. Wish the drone footage was a bit more clear on youtube but the flights of the sticks themselves are incredible! We work in solid black polycarbonate because it proves so much more durable and precise for the cost of the product. It looks great when carved and finished appropriately. Hardwood is even more beautiful but quite fragile. We plan to expand our lineup to potentially include some wood in the future if we can find a consistent source of material which offers good quality.
Check out Throwsticks.com to learn more. You can join our mailing list and we'll notify you when new products are released. In the meantime the polycarbonate are very enjoyable to fly.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
@@savoirfaire6181 i have looked through a few products they look fabulous! I am considering purchasing. Are they suitable for actual hunting?
@@ace50cal1 Yes they are just as deadly for hunting as the originals and a lot more durable. We ship to an international market and have customers who have successfully hunted grouse, hare, turkey, etc... with them. Check local hunting regulations to be safe.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Very cool. Have you tried hunting with one? I am wondering about hunting rabbits? I have seen "throwing sticks" used in survival videos as a method of hunting rabbits but only in theory, have not seen a rabbit taken yet.
Good question. I don't do much myself but my customers have taken turkey and rabbits. There's pictures up on Throwsticks.com's Facebook page. I haven't heard other reports than those yet but there's a famous Australian survivalist who is going to rely upon my throwsticks to make a trek across the Australian wilderness. I will let him make that announcement when the time comes.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Throwsticks Channel so another question.... when i was a kid i threw "returning boomerangs" flat and they would fly flat and then shoot upwards. made sense to me that hunting birds this way would work. the stick would come up and under them as they took flight (in mass). any thoughts?
So returning boomerangs were only used in a few small areas of Australia historically, while kylies or throwsticks such as I make were used in one form or another across almost all the continent. Many of the returning boomerangs were mangrove wood and so they were light weight and inadequate for hunting. I've handled hundreds of Aboriginal artifacts, both boomerangs and kylies. Some boomerangs were bigger and heavier, like those from Mornington Island, but not compared to kylies, which sometimes feel as if they are made from stone and not wood.
Other than some isolated cases and possibly with some of the larger bats, scholars and experts I have read and spoken to feel that boomerangs were not really used to target game, but rather as decoy for raptors in order to keep game birds from flying away. They were also just used for amusement and games by the few tribes who made them.
Kylies can be thrown up into flocks of birds as well, but other than with large birds such as geese and ducks, it seems that birds in flight are too mobile to be easily hit, and it's generally just a waste of energy. Competition boomerang throwers I've spoken to have told me that they have thrown into flocks of birds repeatedly at the beach and never hit a thing because the birds are way too agile. Geese and ducks would be clear exceptions to this rule.
Unfortunately I hit a sparrow with my truck a few days ago, so anything is possible.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Very cool! But does it hurt if you hit someone by accident?
Yes we have to be very careful with filming because they are weapons, not toys. They have and will break bones on impact and we do not endorse our customers throwing in places with others present or where anyone could risk being injured. Basically they weigh about 14 ounces and have finer edges. Worse than being hit by someone swinging a baseball bat. Designed for hunting.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
What’s the best stick ??
My favorite is the model listed in this video, but there are plenty of nice sticks we sell.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
I like your videos, but I recommend turning down the background music. Sometimes it is hard to hear you over it.
Thanks for the comment. I think you're right and will definitely try to tone it down on future videos.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
I think these are great but was very disappointed when I went to your website and found them made of polycarbonate..... unless that is a tree in Australia?
I make hardwood throwsticks, but not for sale at this time. They are beautiful but for each pair of sticks it's necessary to take a long trek into the wilderness to acquire an ideal bent elbow from an appropriate tree. Then to season it for several years so that it's form remains stable after being crafted to shape. The Aborigines did not season their mulga because they could re-tune the sticks once they warped, dried out, or else could make another one if the problem got too bad or the stick broke in use.
Hardwood bent elbows are fragile compared to polycarbonate and not available in the quantities I need. Strip laminating and various forms of plywood and lap joints are too fragile for use in hunting kylies. Polycarbonate has the same specific gravity as mulga wood, making it an excellent subsitute. Each throwstick is hand carved to shape.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
John,
Historically, mulga wood kylies had ranges out to about 200 meters in some cases, with the majority probably at about 80-100 meters. I and my friends have thrown artifact kylies out to 150 meters. The grain of the wood goes with the bend and they are quite durable, but not near as durable as polycarbonate. One of their main problems is that wood warps as it dries and many ancient sticks have lost their tuning as a result.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
so just as a matter of discussion (not a complaint) how accurate can these be thrown? target size at what distances? and how often can that target be hit?
Ken,
My friend Gary Broadbent pretty much hits tree trunks at 70 meters when he wants to with one of my sticks. I've seen him score two eagles at a disc golf course on throws past 100 yards, on single game of an 18 hole course. We were both always ridiculously above par for the course. I'm not as good as he is, but when I'm warmed up I could nail a tree trunk a great percentage of the time at 50 meters. When I'm cold then I am not the same. They are really best deployed by groups of hunters against groups of animals, or single animals at closer ranges. They never run out of bullets and when you're hungry and there's a flock of geese or turkey out in the distance, you'll have dinner.....
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Just one thing that disappointed me is that is made out of PC plastic instead of wood.
Yeah we've made some from wood as well but they are not durable enough to really sell and expect them to hold up in real use over a period of time which justifies their price. The polycarbonate makes them worry free and are stable in all conditions. In the future I may do some releases in wood but those will be more specialized products.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com