The Kimberley Stinger - "Fighting Boomerang"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2018
- Join our gun slung, wasp stung hero, "Kimberley," as he regains his composure one throw at a time, shortly after being attacked by a sand wasp (true story). He re-establishes his place at the top of the food chain in style, and demos Throwsticks.com's newest back woods survival multi-tool in the process.
Benjamin Scott from Throwsticks.com was actually stung on his throwing hand between shots, in the first scene filmed. This set the tone of the production. You can hear one of the other attacking insects in the first scene where the camera also adds mysterious sound effects of its own. Some things are just meant to be....
1 large watermelon, 12 cans of cheap soda, and 2 sand wasps were definitely harmed during the filming of this production....
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My mother being of the Bundjalung people of northern New South Wales, I feel the need to educate the people that the Boomerang need not be thrown.
To realise it's true effectiveness, one need only consider it's edge, and imagine it when used in combination as fighting sticks (!!!).....There are particular fighting or war boomerang, and they break bones like one was merely snapping twigs, and are light, aerodynamic and effective.....
Something to consider indeed.
They would take the stickfighting practitioners by storm....
The war boomerang are truly incredible..!!.
Thank-you for sharing and adding to the value here with your comments. Certainly they are amazing weapons with such a heritage! My regards to you, your mother and the Bundjalung people, masters of the craft.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
@@Throwsticks Thankyou, my brother. And peace to you.
@@joachimcoonan6255 To you as well. Thank-you.
Such an awesome primitive weapon, great job!
Would you be able to make a video describing the proper body mechanics for proper throwing?
We have done the following video to give an introduction to throwing but have not yet done anything advanced or in depth yet.
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The reluctance is that we've seen so far that each person develops their own style. Many styles work. The rules in the above video are what's most important.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
This actually happened to me in Canal Street New York City. I was wearing a Dryzabone under which I had tucked a boomerang into my belt. I was en route to present it as a gift. I was accosted by an irate stall holder when I tried to barter for Joy perfume. I had to take out the boomerang and wave it about threatening to take the head off at least one of the five who had gathered around to do me harm. I’ve never been so happy to hear a woop woop of a filthy black and white as it pulled into the kerb like the cavalry. My mate, who by this time was “courageous” enough to scurry to the other side of the street, came back on scene and joined me in the disgusting back seat while we were transported to our hotel on Broadway. The year was 1995.
Wow that's an awesome story. Thanks for sharing!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Bro brought my childhood cartoon weapons to life, with that multiuse feature you'd see in shows like TMNT in the 80's. I want a couple of those NOW!
Thanks. I'll definitely take those words to heart. We grew up at the same time!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Awesome video, great throwing. Great to see you showing how they can be used for various tools too. Your videos are always done in a professional way.
Thanks kylie brother :)
Ben
Them rangs you got'r mighty perty.
😮😮😮I'm surprised. Those boomerangs are like a mix of frisbee and knife
Yeah and invented before frisbees or steel knives anyway. Boomerangs are the first flying invention on the planet.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
wow man, this is incredible! Thankyou, infinite blessings!
Thanks. This was fun to film. We'll be doing more with this character in the future.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Arhh that one is good, oh yes ill take a 20 pack please.
Very cool!
Just got mine in yesterday....beautiful, quality piece of kit. It flies true every time...just gotta work on my consistency now. They are intuitive and quick to pick up, but I've got some practicing to get as good as you!
Awesome to hear! Keep practicing. I'm most accurate when I'm warmed up and not over thinking my throws, just using instincts! It's great! On this model I prefer to throw from the trailing arm although in the film I did this very little. It sets up the attitude of the stick to really sail without losing power from the start. Good stuff!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.ocm
Awesome skills bro! 🤠🤠🤠👍👍👍🪃🪃🪃
On the bucket list. . .
I need one
That's crazy how it was sticking out of the wood like that
where did you get such a cool poncho?
It's been some years now so I don't recall the exact place but I purchased it from an online shop which imports from the Andes. It's Alpaca wool and very soft.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
You must make more videos I like them
Hey thanks for that. We plan to expand on this very character and do much more, but with the COVID-19 lockdown it's more difficult.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Are you still selling throw sticks? And do you ship to Australia?
@@jerronwagg4111 Yes absolutely. We ship to Australia all the time. The mail's still going through!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
notice you changing positions when throwing, sometime with point leading, others with point to the rear. Any reason for the change?
What are these made of? Wood or metal? Really cool video
Thanks. These are made from high impact black polycarbounate. Very tough stuff indeed!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Is there a reason why you sometimes hold it with the point forward and sometimes with the curve/arc forward. Do you get different results?
Good question. The Stinger will work both ways perfectly, if thrown hard enough, and I wanted to demo that in the video. It works by far the easiest when thrown point back, which is what we recommend in the instructions we ship with it. I prefer this technique most of the time with this model. Most sticks are the opposite of this. The tapered ends and deep bend on this one are the reason why this method is superior. Point back throwing helps with a good retention through the throw, good smooth release at the correct time (not too early), and it creates a forward rather than downward bias to the plane the stick rotates on, enhancing preliminary lift. Both methods can be practiced for more diverse uses and skill development.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Have you ever tried to do a plastic cast the throwsticks? Maybe a polyurethane 65d or something similar.
Jerron, Thanks for the suggestion. Injection molding would allow us to reduce the price on the products significantly but at the cost of quality which would go below our standards. The use of softer and lighter weight materials like polyurethane aren't ideal for throwsticks which take impacts and need to be rigid enough to hold a tune. We are carving each of our throwsticks individually in our shop from extruded polycarbonate. The labor is more but the finished product is well worth the difference and we keep the prices as good as we can by cutting out the middle man. These are hand crafted products, made in the USA.
Thanks,
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
The intro makes me feel like he would be a well known friend of Indiana Jones
Thanks for the compliment. I used to make high end kangaroo leather bullwhips professionally for 23 years, as well as perform with them, before moving to hunting boomerangs and Throwsticks.com So Indiana Jones was a part of my life in a way.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
So, where can I get some? Skal
This is the entry level model at Throwsticks.com You may also like the Wedge War Club. Pretty good stuff.
Ben
@Throwsticks Channel Why don’t you make the big heavy Pilbara number 7 two handed thrower? Nothing survives the impact of that thing, Roos get broken from it.
Awesome suggestion! Maybe some day we will do that. We do make a single handed Figure 7 but haven't produced a two handed one yet. We have generally found that heavy sticks are not popular with our customers, but we enjoy them and there's definitely a space available in our lineup for something like this someday!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
have you considered building XXL-sized boomerangs?
So yes I have made huge, long sticks like this. They are very powerful and maybe I will release a model like that some day. They have very high drag, however, due to the length and the torque on the wing tips makes the ranges shorter. But they are still really amazing. In general, our larger models seem to have less interest than the smaller ones. I think maybe people feel they can't throw something so big, but with kylies it is very possible.
Ben
Throwsticks.com
How much do these sell for? Also how well do they take damage? Thanks.
Sean,
Release date will be October 1st for this new product, with price starting at $59.00. This is our entry level product with the shortest flight range of anything we make, but it's a lot of fun. They are made from black polycarbonate, which is the most durable substance for throwstick making I've found on the planet. Nearly impossible to break. Eventually repeated impacts on boulders and sharp rocks can break them but it's not common until a lot of abuse has been dished out.
If you check out our other videos you'll find we offer other products presently, which are larger than this and feature flight ranges out even past 120 meters.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Thanks for the reply.
I will kill a deer with this one day
How do these compare to the cold steel ones overall ?
You really can't compare them, the "Cold Steel Boomerang" is just a big piece of plastic that not even creates lift and has no tuning at all. Ben's Kylies on the other hand are truly state of the art technology, he is most likely the best kyliemaker in the world today. It's not only about range, but reliable accuracy over the greater distances.
@@dannyh7575 I'm sure with the right modifications (which would have to be done by the consumer) the coldsteel one would probably be better than it is now. that being said i would still love to get my hands on a few of these and a couple Coldsteel ones for modification and cosplay reasons
@@dark96744 I did rework a CS-Boomerang a few years back. The Polypropylene is soft enough for carving, but is tending to bend and twist over time. Main problem ist the general shape, it's not right for this size and weight. It is holding the momentum but it's hard to get a decent tuning and it will not release clean for aimed throws. If you're interested in throwing for sports, buy a pair of Ben's Kylies, if you're interested in Kyliemaking, buy a pair of Ben's Kylies, develop a good throwingtechnique and start to work with wood, but be prepared for drastic lifechanges, ist is such a complex art.
Confused soda bottles time travelled back to old wild west, were shot with Aussie aboriginal boomerangs!
LOL. No I just live like this in the modern age, foraging generic soda cans in the woods with pointy stick in hand. Doc Brown and the flux capacitor makes it all possible now!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Does it float?
The Stinger is heavier than water and will not float. This is the same as with the best historical sticks of the same. A very dense material is an asset for delivering a long flight and hard blow.
Thanks,
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
What's that one made of ?
These are made of high impact black polycarbonate and finished to order.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Hey there Benjamin. I’m a craftsman with a strong background in bladesmithing and a love for man-powered projectiles. Watching your videos has inspired me to attempt a steel version of one of these throwing sticks (a little bit of Mad Max may have also helped). I’d like to know what you have to say for beginners who are new and want something that will work. I’m worried that with steel I may not be able to carve out the turbolator designs.
What are you thoughts on this idea? I’d like to hear your say.
Beautiful work by the way. Working polycarbonate is very annoying for me and I respect your skill in this field.
Thanks for the nice words.
I've never tried steel but my experience with other materials with high specific gravity is that they won't produce adequate lift at human generated velocities to carry their own weight. To produce lift your airfoil will have to have some thickness, but then it would be too heavy.
You wouldn't need turbulator's with steel since you'd be making it so thin, but something made of steel would need a very optimized airfoil for lift to compensate for the specific gravity. The overall weight would still need to be under a pound so it could be thrown.
As long as you don't expect flight, it would still be a fun project. Send me pictures if you do one. :)
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Thank you for the reply. I was sort of curious about that, I noticed a lot of these throwing sticks are very light for their size. I was thinking of using making a laminate with polycarbonate and thin steel from a handsaw blade. I think this could produce the optimum weight and thickness.
Could you give an explanation of the airfoil design? I’ve been reading but the terms of incidence and such are pretty confusing.
Also I’d like to know how thick you make these; my polycarbonate is about 1/4” thick.
Again, thank you so much for the replies, I’m very interested in these and I figured you’re the best source of knowledge.
Not so Frog The benefits of steel, if any, seem to diminish in a laminate. Whatever the case, the pinning would have to be very strong. The impact these take is substantial.
In terms of tuning there is so much to it that advanced boomerang makers often can’t make a working Kylie. There are only a handful of Kylie makers in the world as a result. What we are doing is historic here in terms of flight performance. Tuning is not intuitive because many aspects contradict established expectations. It took me thousands of experiments and years to learn. I’m unable to pass it on simply. If I ever publish a book on the topic it will be a thick one. I would refer you to our science page at throwsticks.com for the basics.
In terms of airfoils it comes down to learning numerous subtle techniques to alter airfoil performance and then applying those within the balance of the system as indicated by a careful observation of the stick’s current behavior. Describing the subtle and correct way to change an angle on the surface of a wing at a specific point on the wing is not easy. Nor even describing the effect it has on the flight path at various stages of the flight. Add angles of incidence and drag and it is even more complex. We’ve developed our own vocabulary here to assist. There are just so many things involved. A Kylie is a dynamic instrument which continuously changes angle of attack according to the wishes of the designer for a given starting velocity and rate of spin. Straight flight from a curved stick comes from total mastery of the system.
1/4” polycarbonate can be used on small throwsticks and particularly non traditional designs. We use 1/2” for most of our work. It all depends on what pattern you are designing.
Thanks again for the reply. The specific shape I was thinking of is called a Valari. A type of throwing stick used in India. These have a large knob on the end of the heavily curved wing which allows good grip. The other end is cut off square, and sometimes studded. I believe it has an airfoil design similar to those of the aborigines.
These were said to be able to travel up to 130 yards and many of them were made from Iron, but I have my doubts.
I’m going to try and start doing some experiments with airfoil for myself, and I’ll see where I get with that I suppose.
@@LESANN996 It's on my list of things to do to experiment with the Valari myself and maybe develop a model for sale. I haven't made one yet so can't say how they perform. There are a lot of projects ahead for Throwsticks.com as I can find time.
A lot of historical claims about range are exaggerated. Throwsticks are impressive and 80 yards can seem like twice that. Objectively, at present, on average I get about 142-153 yards out of my best 13-14 ounce sticks (Central Desert Hunters), as measured by an accurate device. I have to do a lot of extra work to get them that good and I would expect a more gifted thrower might achieve a lot further distances, but I have yet to prove that.
Let me know how you do. It's a lot of walking/running but a good way to get outdoors :)
Ben
I want one ! But there are too expensive for me...
This one will be our entry level model, made from the same premium materials as the higher priced models but priced at $59 and up. It's release date will be Oct. 1st, 2018 at Throwsticks.com Pays for itself the first day after the electric grid collapses. Never runs out of ammo and also good for use on zombies :)
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
What are they made of? Metal
They are machined from solid blocks of high impact black polycarbonate. Very tough stuff!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
@@Throwsticks very impressed with the quality and the item. Thank you for the response
@@karenjay7158 My pleasure. Thanks for the kind words. Check out the Wedge and the Central Desert Hunter videos if you haven't seen them. I think you'll enjoy.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Hey are you gonna do a hunting video?
I'd love to put some good turkey hunting on film. Unfortunately other videos of this nature have been ripped down by youtube for us in the past and we don't want to risk our channel so we'll have to give it longer consideration. Suffice it to say, throwsticks have put meat on the fire in some of the harshest climates on earth for thousands of years.
Also, sorry I didn't see your comment before. Don't know how I missed it.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Man I'd love to see this against one of Paul Harrell's meat targets!
im simply to broke
Your like ggat aussue superhero which can throw things
Arm the populous
Now imagine if that was high carbon steel. And sharp. 🤔
Yes I've made some carbon steel versions. Oddly, they are disappointing because they must be made really thin to fly, thus reducing overall weight. They tend to deliver less impact due to their flexibility, as a result and have less tendency to penetrate stuff due to this. They don't allow the airfoil shape which allows for proper tuning and that is a disadvantage too. I will continue experiments to see if specific shapes are advantaged, but the polycarbonate has proven the best material in the world for these purposes after trying many materials. To work optimally thick steel blades would need to be shot out of a weapon at high velocity to fly properly at their specific gravity.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
@@Throwsticks how much for each, if I wanted to buy 3 of these total?
@@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique They are $54.99 hand carved from extruded high impact polycarbonate. Check out our website at www.throwsticks.com
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks
@@Throwsticks just ordered one a few days ago. Hope to get it soon. Looks fun and deadly.
@@Throwsticks this is a very late comment... but have you ever thought of titanium? It's more expensive but it is very light and stronger than steel. Just a thought.
Are you killing beer or coke cans? I can understand the destruction of coke cans, but beer? ;-)
Generic brand soda. We painted over the label.
I bought one and can't throw it worth shit.
Justin,
Thanks for the report. Keep in mind that it takes practice. The Stinger has the most difficult grip of all the sticks to master because it tapers down. Throw by holding the reverse arm of the stick from what you generally see me doing in the video, for best results. Choke up on the grip to wherever it's comfortable. We find that with practice people are getting great results and ranges out to about 80 meters straight out. You may also email us a video of your throwing to our email and we can coach your technique.
The correct way are the two throws I do here. th-cam.com/video/tkzdtMFzKCg/w-d-xo.html
Throw your hardest whenever you throw. It likes velocity.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Nice weapon. Now, if only the demonstrator had the will to actually hunt, and show he can make humane kills with it. Then I'd be a buyer.
Not legal in my neck of the woods mate. The history is there, however.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
So does your ankle bracelet prohibit you from traveling to a location that does allow hunting pests with a thrown object?
Mestengo Hidalgo Pretty much. I work about 70 to 80 hours a week and don’t have adequate time for promotion, let alone hunting. Maybe someday.
Ben.