Has the Arsonist been fixed now? | Gmod TTT
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Gmod Trouble in Terrorist Town (TTT) is an online multiplayer gamemode included with Garry's Mod. The game is about a group of "terrorists" who have traitors among them, out to kill everyone who's not a traitor.
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I love when they randomly remember they can possess props when they are dead and just mass pick someone to annoy
I remember back in the day possessing objects and spamming w to quickly propel props to such a speed that you could kill people with them. Also mashing space so fast you hit the top of the map in a second, scaring the hell out of the person stood next to the previously stationary barrel.
@@LucasCarter2 There is still a randomat that does this. Doesn't pop up very often and its even rarer that any of the Yogs actually notice/remember to use it, but its hilarious whenever it does happen.
I thought that Ravs was making a genius play to out Rythian as a Traitor so that he and Zylus could be "confirmed" good guys. Turns out that it was just a Yogscast play.
yeah what was up with ravs there? lol
@@evil993 He thought he was still a glitch
Classic Yogs
I was fully convinced he was gonna cover up his “long con” with “I just wanted revenge” after lel
@@jekanyika haha I should probs finish vids before commenting.
I'm glad that they had that post-round talk right at the end there, it would truly have been an injustice for Ben's amazing play to go down in history as "the worst remote sticky ever"
Tbf it was an amazing play by accident. Ben killed what could have been considered an ally and a paramedic at random (he was right in the end but his lack of attention was why he won versus Ravs's lack of attention being why he lost)
Not to diminish the play but it was a bad play that turned out lucky in the end.
I give more props to Briony tbh nearly killing Ben while blind before he ran to heal.
@@joshuad3507 Ben knew Ravs was bad because his name was red on tab menu because he was hypnotized after his body was checked.
@@pauleean4364 ...how does that work? If that is actually what happened that kinfa screws over the hypnotist pretending to be a paramedic play
@@joshuad3507I don't think that was supposed to happen, in base TTT if a traitor's body gets ID'd and he gets resurrected their name shows red when you press tab. I guess with the hypnotist it considers it a normal traitor rez and puts the red marker on the name for some reason.
It was the worst remote sticky ever.....for the traitors lol.
Ben's RSB arc reaches its peak.
Arsonist on a map with water: "I'm too weak!"
Arsonist on a map without water: "UNLIMITED POWER!"
Maybe should be allowed to douse and ignite again?
@@MikStarYo The problems with that, far as I see it, are that that basically incentivises people to stay near water *constantly* on water maps(what allows them to wander now is the idea that the arsonist wants to get as many people as possible before igniting, which isn't necessary if the arsonist can do one at a time or batches of people), and if the arsonist has no limit, then they'd be incentivised to just burn everyone right after dousing them.
Some sort of middle could be struck, e.g. two or three uses, or you can only douse people you doused the first time, but that still encourages people to game the role.
A Rythian intro sounds so energetic compared to everyone else.
Really captures the Lewisism of the intro in his own tone!
I was really expecting him to just end the intro when he paused on trouble
I think it’s amped up by the nervous energy of being put out of his usual comfort zone.
GPT-4o Maximum Drama style.
11:51 That prop kill is the funniest thing that happened in complete silence XD
truly, Source Engine physics at their finest
It's so weird, it's like Rythian was actively working to seal his fate, just randomly shooting it like that
@@ZedByt While not an explosive Barrel it is still a Barrel that calls to Rythian
"Is ravs with zylus"
Ben asks in his most innocent voice so he can try to kill them both
Ravs had two modes: stealth kill literally everyone, and that last round
"that might be the worst remote sticky"
Nah Ravs, Ben still has that honour but it was specfically like 5 years ago when he blew up JUST Himself and. his traitor buddy Duncan
"I thought I would get two kills with it." "You did! ONE OF THEM WAS YOU, AND ONE OF THEM WAS ME!!"
Ravs just outing his teammate 😂
That bedknobs and broomsticks joke is underrated Nilesy
Briony handing that flying plane off to Duncan was just perfection
Ravs threw the last round hard, haha.
At once Ben's finest hour and Rav's worst.
The Yogs and reading the info on the screen do not go well together.
😂😂😂 I was like, what the frick is he doing!! Maybe you could hard justify killing Rythian as a play, because if you were paramedic ressed, the first thing you would do is call out the guy that killed you, but then I realised he just wasn't paying attention.
@@GregR2023it's so simple to check too, there's literally no excuse
@@jonathanpilcher337 the excuse is plain enough, what do you mean. you're told a paramedic wants to rez you (an innocent) and you know who killed you (the traitor) so when you do in fact get rezed you make the traitor known and go after them. sure it's a deception game but you can't think everything is a lie. it'd be smart to check sure but it's also not the craziest thing in the world that anyone mid-round wouldn't go "hmm am I a good guy or a bad guy, let me make sure". It's poor observation but it's not impossible.
11:50 GMod being perfection as usual
The sigh they both gave is just perfect.
I love Nilesy so much. Nothing makes me smile more than when hes getting haunted by ghosts.
Garfield: The Greatest priest of Mara
Ravs is never going to live that last round down in the bad plays compilations
The barrel glitching out and just landing against the wall next to both bodies like it was blending back into the map. Like it was an assassin
briony is just too cute when she's running away like that omg
Sweet baby jesus, Ravs completely impressed me back at 5:30 when he completely avoided getting caught by his own barnacle.
There seems to be a severe lack of dragons and cheese in riften…
They just got stolen and added to the vault.
Maybe an idea to balance 'The Arsonist' is by having the dousing on a timer where when someone is doused in gasoline it is only there for a specific amount of time
I've been looking forward to the Arsonist's return - though I do think the Detective and traitors being able to buy fire extinguishers to be able to save anyone other than themselves could be cool (for maps that don't have water)
Also, having the Informant role have increased spawn rate to be in with the Arsonist would be good as they both are roles that wanna be near people and could give the traitors a chance to find the Arsonist before they ignite
Can they not put it out with crowbars anymore?
@@adamw3774 That was never a thing. You're thinking of a Traitor weapon that requires an ally to hit the burning player with a crowbar.
@@adamw3774 that was the amaterasu traitor weapon
@@maxinesenior596 o ye my b. But this would also be a good solution tbf if the modders implemented crowbars to extinguish fires on other people. It's not like incendiary grenades are truly viable so it'd only really counter a few things, which like OP mentioned maps without water would be a complete wash with an arsonist in play.
holy crap, a bed-knobs and broomsticks reference? I forgot that movie existed! Well done Nilesy.
11:50 Rythian and Nilsey killed by Rythians luck, he shot the barrel and it wedged him and nilsie stood on top, they both then died to physics, lmao.
Arsonist should change every dead person who has been doused but not ignited's role to arsonist when the detective checks the body.
With the Skyrim map, makes me think that they could do a thrum/shout weapon that ragdolls everyone is a cone radius
Heres a role idea, the cultist, basically you are a pink role that must collect dead bodies and you have to draw a pentagram to be able to sacrifice them, the amount of dead bodies determines how strong the demon will be(u can summon the demon anytime but everyone will know that it was you)
TTT by the yogscast without Lewis is like a talk show without its host but it still works so well 😂
Nilesy's ragdoll made that propkill so much better.
Ben has never has a bad remote sticky bomb play in his life.
Ben showing off some absolute chad plays that final round
Duncan's back!! We missed you. ♥♥♥♥♥
What?! No salt from Rythian for the team kill at the end? I was promised salt! The Yogs guarantee.
Ben with RSB is one of the classics.
So many plays during that last round were bad yet "this is some 8-D chess pro plays" if they were on purpose because they paid off. And yet funnily enough Zylus' high-tier play was great on purpose yet fumbled hard just by not paying off.
Also Nilesy fighting for his life against the haunted house was hilarious, props (ha) to Kirsty for dropping the bookcase on him too.
Proving that I've spent too much time in Skyrim... Despite the fact that I haven't played in three years, I knew this was Riften from the first second of the intro.
Ravs might deserve a punish at the start of the next TTT with that getting his fellow Traitor killed
Can we get 30 minute TTT? I would love a bit more each week. Love you Yoggers!
11:49 god damn it rythian, barrel justice with a wooden barrel?!
I think this arsonist would work a bit better if it took a bit longer to dowse but could also dowse people after the initial setting people on fire. That would allow the arsonist to have a better shot at winning but also at being detected. But also balence that it in favor of everyone else a bit further being making you able to put out fire by beating people with a crowbar.
Another little tweak, rather than the ignite instantly lighting them, have a 5 second delay. But that the moment ignite is hit any who are doused but haven't yet been notified receive the notification. This would both help confuse by throwing off the timer, as well as limit the ignite as a reactionary move.
Arsonist Briony going prone was amazinggggg 😂
Had some computer trouble while watching so hearing Nilsey go "Its Riifteen-" BANG Thump- and then the vid froze, so it was just silence after that.
Fuckin hilarious
11:08 Oh dammit it's Derkeethus all over again!
Give the arsonist fire grenades and flares just for the lols
It has taken me until today to realize why Rythian and Ben don't work well together, it's because they're both effectively "support" or "tacticians". Ben will usually make a bold and obvious play to cut down some of the opposition and/or place guilt if he gets away with it allowing his team mates to clean up, and Rythian will try to set up advantagous endgames for him and his partner which very often leave them with few enemies overall.
The issue, at least I believe, lies in the fact that ben and rythian both want a second traitor who can just drop a couple of essential kills and clean up, but neither of them are particularly suited to that task against opponents like ravs.
Tldr: Rythian & Ben, if you want to win more often, designate one of the two of you to be the "Risk Taker" every time you're grouped, target Ravs/Tom/maybe Lewis early though not first, and make sure that the "Risk Taker" is the one throwing bombs, planting stickies, and generally doing anything but harpoons/c4/traitor traps. I think if you guys focused on those things we'd start hearing more complaints at the kirsty and/or duncan pairings
The pack a punch for the bees should keep them from being grabbed
11:50 That is certainly.... one of the ways to die.
How long y'all reckon it'll take Rythian to figure out hiding around corners won't work until he TURNS OFF HIS FLASHLIGHT EVERYONE CAN PROBABLY SEE?
The way to extinguish the flame should be a Minecraft water bucket item just make the fire less damage so they have time to buy it
Before they said Skyrim, I thought this was a Fistful of Frags map.
I was playing Portal 2 again for ol times sake, but there is no Wheatly. It's just Ben, only Ben.
Ignitionman role - If set on fire, gets that weapon that allows them to fire run towards people.
0:50 closest we'll get to panda in a ttt session
Ravs in that last round is definitely going in a bad plays compilation; meanwhile, Ben is the same round is going in a pro plays compilation
I think arsinist should be a traitor role tbh. :)
i know these are recorded over a month in advance so it's probaby changed by now but it might be an idea to always pair the arsonist with the tracker that can see who they are once they've doused someone so it's not unbeatable on maps without water and they have to play a bit more sneaky
Ravs changed the saying to hoisted by my own pefart, when in the original saying, petard is derived from the french word pet, which is literally just fart.
Didnt the arsonist only win like one round last time it was in? Whats Ben taking about
Uhmm akchually, there are no rivers in Riften! B)
wow, four traitors against ben and he still wins....wouldnt bet id see that day...
This can't be Riften, I don't see Maven Black-Briar going around annoying the piss out of people.
Is lewis trapped in his apartment?
I always worry when there's two TTT's without him because he said on Triforce he could probably go 2-3 weeks no contact before someone got worried about him.
Ben winning that last match was crazy awesome. even zylus trying to sabotage him from beyond the grave couldnt stop. Say no to cheating frogs.
That was one of the best plays Ben has ever made!
best RSB i'll ever see
I don't know if this has been mentioned/considered before, but maybe the Arsonist's 'you have been doused' notification should have a randomized timer between for ex. 15-50 seconds, so it's less easy to guess who it was once they can reliably remember who was near them exactly 30 seconds ago. It seems like a minor adjustment but it adds a lot of variance and requires them to work together harder to suss out who it is, which is always fun and full of backstabbing and trickery potential.
You say that when the only round they sussed out the arsonist down to just one person was when Briony essentially said hey guys I'm the arsonist
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 They have played very very little with the arsonist, and it's also been a long while since the last time, so their behavior now is absolutely not indicative of their behavior once the role has 'settled in' - same as with jesters, roles that res people, etc.
Besides, didn't they also suss out Ben I think it was, in one of the first rounds where Rythian (inno) and Zylus (traitor) got both set on fire? That one would've been spiced up if the timer was randomized, as they had both been near ben at around the same time, but had been with other players earlier or later.
@@BalthorYT exactly so why add it now? Why make a change to something that's not being exploited yet. Wait till they get used to it then do it to spice it up
They accused two different people and there was 4 that actually could of done it.
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 You've shifted the goalpost buddy. Neither was I saying this should be added immediately or with haste, nor were you arguing against that specific idea in your first message. Besides, it's kind of a moot point - there's literally no downside to adding it now as opposed to later anyways, even if it's not 'necessary' yet.
I'm just giving the mod designers an idea for further refining the role, whether they decide to add it at all or when is besides the point.
Cheers.
@@BalthorYTexplain to me how I moved the goal posts? I made a statement backed by the video which you to a degree agreed with. With my second point adding to the exact same point and responding to the issues you brought up. My point this entire time is your trying to fix a problem that's doesn't currently exist and likely never will
Seems like someone just gets off on starting arguments or needing to have the last word 😂
While you're right theres no reason to not add it now, there's also no real reason to add it now. When it's not an issue and it's clear it's not going to be a roll they play with on long enough for it to become one. There's a number of roles and weapons that appear in almost every video that should take priority in refinement
Ben best sticky ever.
The thumbnail shows some rare footage of Adolf Duncler, ca. 1945 (colorized).
is the 1,2,3,0 riddle a tent? one entrance. 2 roofs (each tent side slope) 3 walls (back and each side of the entrance side and zero floor because on ground?
That was an amazing and confusing last round lol.
0:52/4:25/13:13/14:41 Bleugh!
I call dibs on "Ass River" as a band name.
Riften is the best town in Skyrim
To be fair, if Ravs had realized he was hypnotized, immediately calling out his killer should have "confirmed" him and Zylus as good guys. So it was a good play theoretically, but in practice it didn't work out.
If he did realize he was hypnotized though he could have just accused Ben or Briony instead of his traitor friend, considering that Nilesy immediately believed Ravs when he said Rythian was bad, he would absolutely help with killing whoever Ravs said was evil and it'd end up as a 3v2.
That last round was quite something
betrunkener drache is german for drunk dragon
the arsonist should be able to shoot people after igniting, igniting should reveal who you are (and maybe halve your health or something to really incentivize the arsonist to wait as long as possible), you shouldn't be able to put out the fire by jumping in water, and it should only take maybe 20 seconds to tell you that you're doused to balance that out
however the detective should be able to buy a fire extinguisher that can put themselves out and one other person
as is it seems like the arsonist ignites, at best kills one or two people, then is basically just a dead role for the rest of the round,
ideally what the role would do is make people question who it is until the big moment where you ignite and a ton of people die, but it's way too easy to put out the fire in maps with water, the fire extinguisher idea makes it not map dependant but makes it so there's still counterplay from the innocents (and if you mess up you don't get in this awkward limbo state where there's nothing you can really do but run around without any way to affect anything)
A hypnotist res doesn't change who you are on the inside. I'm glad Ravs stayed true to himself 🙋♂
Such a Ben way to win a match
Feels like arsonist should have a replaced melee item that lets them pour the fuel but im not sure
I miss Wheel Boy 😢.
I love this map.
Modders should try and make some kind of mod that changes your in put from allways on to push to speak so the mic cuts of when you die, atleased for 5 sek :P
11:53 A little late to find out she was a different religion, Kirsty!
If you are reading this... that was a joke.
THEY GOT RID OF THE KFC BUCKET GUN! WTF
that shit was super fucking op, it was a way to get infinite health! (but no one ever remembers that it can heal you up to like 250 hp because yogscast guarantee)
I was hyped for people to eat their words when they realized :( lol
Lewis has been in Japan for ages. When’s he coming back?
I wonder if Kirsty will have to change skins after the recent Nintendo workshop addons fiasco
0:00 Instantly I see an editing error with the extra bar up top next to the names. Then Briony's name is there in one shot then not in another. lol
The masses of them annoying Nilsey as props... pure gold!
Ass River. That is all.
Hey I recognise Riften!
So technically Zylus abused the punishment command? 🤔
lmao bang
kirsty is a fucking gamer? :)
I hope they house rule ban role calling. Its just not a very fun or fair way of checking others. It would be ok if they settled on roll packs they all are used to, but getting outed by the fact that only one base innocent exists because you didn't know the detailed settings is cheap. It also really corners glitches limiting their options. This pack in particular can't have more than one of any innocent role. So a traitor will just have to claim a taken roll instantly creating a 50/50.
Why would ravs not check his role after being rezzed lmao
Would anyone be interested if they used a proxy chat on a large map.
Is that riften?
Where's my LewLew :(
Where is Lewis? Hes been gone for several episodes.