The Importance of Prostrations In Worship
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- Fr. Seraphim Holland is the priest at St. Nicholas Orthodox Church in Mckinney, Texas. You can find Fr. Seraphim at his channel below:
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Unless the Heart Prostrates Itself First. No manner of Physical Contortions, can Fool The Holy Spirit.
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I’m new to Orthodoxy. I wouldn’t say that I am but I am heavily studying it here recently and finding a lot of interesting information. I’ve begun to prostrate every hour a few times to keep myself disciplined but also active throughout my work hours. I grew up Baptist, then Non-denominational and now just searching for the truth. If anyone has any suggestions or tips please let me know! God bless I love you all!
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AMEN FATHER
Over the years I have torn the ligaments in both knees, and have cartilage issues. Also, an injured tailbone. Furthermore if I prostrate I need physical help back up.
I have received permission from my priest just to do the deep bows, with my hands to the floor. I think they are called Metanoia's
I'm in a similar situation. I'm not even that old yet, but I had a really serious accident and tore up one leg and knee. Thankfully, Orthodoxy isn't legalistic and most Priests, like yours, will give you a reasonable alternative.
@shawnpatrick1877 Amazingly, I've gotten that old. I'm in my 70's.
I think it's no stretch to say adding prostrations into my spiritual practice saved (and is saving) my life. Would recommend.
Why is it that the Greek churches in America hardly ever do prostrations? I didn’t even know how to do a metania or prostration until I started attending a Russian parish.
I wouldn't paint all Greek Churches with the same brush. My priest puts an emphasis on metanias and prostrations during services and prayer.
@@Gibbstronicwow, ok. That must be a ‘unicorn’ parish that you’re in because most GOA parishes I’ve been to have pews, so I don’t see how one can regularly do prostrations in a church with pews. The latter is the major issue with the Greek parishes, they’ve become very Westernized especially in the diaspora.
By the way, pews are even a novelty in Roman Catholic Churches. Go to any cathedral in Europe and you’ll only see some chairs set up but not a pew in sight.
@@user-oh3tl7je1q i don't think i can see that as an "issue" whatsoever. The church is catholic, and you are going to find many different cultural manifestations. In the end, i understand what matters most is union of faith and doctrine, and if the churches are teaching the true, orthodox faith, i don't see why having a bigger or a smaller emphasis on prostrations should be a big problem. If one wants more prostrations, he can always look for a parish with more prostrations, vice versa. Not being authoritative, though, i could be wrong.
@@Nich011no, this is not a doctrinal issue, but one of orthopraxy. Prostrations are not a cultural manifestation, they are an integral part of the entire Orthodox Church, no matter what the jurisdiction is. The last time I visited Greece, I saw lots of people doing metania and prostrations in the monasteries and churches. It’s unfortunate that these parishes have pews because like Fr Seraphim was saying, it’s impossible to do a prostration while in a pew.
I was a lot more keen on prostrations before starting blood pressur medication that leads to problems if my head gets too low.
Do you have an equivalent for someone who can't do a prostration due to disability?
Hello, how are you? I think I remember seeing you in a community post from Kyle on NoFap where you said that you managed to overcome homosexuality.
That’s a really good question! Maybe reach out to a priest. I am almost certain that others will have asked this in the past.
Generally people lean forward as far as they can, even if they are restricted to sitting.
@@Commentary173 hey there. I don't remember being on NoFap, but I have reduced a significant amount of SSA by being strictly celibate.
@@jessemiller6318 Amen☦️
May I ask why Orthodox don’t do prostrations in the church building between Pascha and Pentecost?
Because we stand in the presence of the resurrected Lord.
they are not new testament events.
@@donhaddix3770they are, pasha is easter and pentecost when the holy spirit comes to mankind and Christ ascends to heaven, we celebrate that and have Done for 2000 years
@@donhaddix3770oh, don, you just don't get it yet. You are missing so much more than you have any idea about
Because this is a period of joy for the Resurrection of the Lord. The rest of the year we do prostrations as a sign of mourning for our sins.With the exception of Sundays when we are allowed to do only small prostrations because every Sunday Liturgy is celebration and joy.
How often should we fast?
@Jstew7 you can search for the Orthodox fasting calendar on google or go to a local church's website and you should be able to find it.
Look up church traditions and fasting periods, there are some handy calendars out there which can help you get a clear understanding, but the normal rule is to fast every Wednesday and Friday (ofc depending on the feasts and important fasting seasons)
Are you guys Oriental or Eastern Orthodox Church?
Eastern.
So, he said That we can prostrate at home from pascha till pentecost. Is that the same for any other sunday, That we can prostrate at home But just not In church?
Prostrations are not performed on a feast days... since every Sunday is a feast day, we do not do it regardless where we are... either at home or at the temple. People who come to the Church only on Sundays sometimes know nothing about prostrations.
@@johnnyd2383 ok Thank you, But In my church we do 1 prostration, only one, is That okay or bad? And this is on sundays.
@@sondre9804 The 20th canon of the First Ecumenical Council specifically forbids kneeling, and thus prostrations, on every Sunday (it being the feast of the Resurrection) and on the days of Pentecost, the fifty days between Pascha and Pentecost - Trinity Sunday. So... I do not know where custom in your parish came from, but it should be rectified nonetheless.
@@johnnyd2383 ok Thank you. Just a no or yes question If you dont mind. Can we prostrate on saturdays, Even from pascha till pentecost saturdays?
@@sondre9804 Nope. 50 days in between Pascha and Pentecost no prostrations.
Agreed in principle but what about folks older and frail? If you want some to do a prostration you better be there to help them back up
There's other things that can be done
@@alexschexnayder8624 oh I know, but it’d be nice to have heard that though
@@woozyjoe4703 if you know you don't have to hear it. The people that need to hear it will ask. It's pretty much the normal basis for communication, right? Not everything needs to be said out loud
@@alexschexnayder8624 I’d say if your pretty much saying saying somethings compulsory you should also point out it’s not in every case. Otherwise you’d get people feeling guilty for no good reason? Sometimes people seem to get very upset when times aren’t “just so”
I’m sure your right and I’m just putting my reaction to the video which is clearly different from yours but no harm in feeling differently 😀
@@woozyjoe4703 one of my favorite software engineering streamers likes to refer to what you're talking about as "context culture" or "pretext culture" and frankly it's a pretty difficult thing to deal with.
If someone is Orthodox, then they probably should already know that Economia exists for these things. If they don't know then they should ask. But if one already knows, then when one hears an Orthodox priest say something is critical, that individual should already have inserted the part that isn't being said, i.e.: "yes, for people who can't do XYZ, there are other things". We all do this all the time with other aspects of communication, it's ok to do that here within reason too.
40 seconds in, felt kind of like Fr. Seraphim Holland had quite a particular worldview. People who practice certain sports are very abled in fighting on the ground and have generally healthy, tough bodies. Otherwise informative video.
Seems like he’s in a bad mood again today.