There is a term in filmmaking/animation called "bump the lamp." It means to go waaaaay above and beyond the needs of s scene for authenticity's sake. In the scene when Eddie is sawing off the handcuffs, Roger is lit according to where he and the swinging overhead lamp are in the room. No one needed to properly light Roger in that scene, he's a cartoon and isn't *actually* in the room. But, the animation team thought it would bring a special level of authenticity to the scene. It pays off, and you don't even notice it unless you're looking for it. "Bump the lamp"
Dolores is the actress that played the killer android Zhora in Blade Runner, she's so lovely in this movie, it took me 30 years to realize who she was.
100% hand drawn bob hoskins did almost the entire thing without visual cues just the voice of Roger off camera feeding him lines the no visuals show how talented he was
True tho they also used a stuffed roger toy stand in in some shots or rehearsals. Theres a making of here on youtube and its really incredible. Its like when magicians show how they do their tricks.
So committed was he to the role that he ended up needing counselling for several weeks after it wrapped, to get past the experience of talking to imaginary characters for so long.
I believe I read somewhere that in order to have characters like Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck share the screen with Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, Disney and Warner Brothers came to an agreement that the characters had to have an equal amount of screen time. And that is why those characters appear on screen together, assuring that they would be on screen for the same amount of time.
@@TheRatsCast There is a split second of Bugs Bunny in the background earlier in the movie (when they’re going through the studio lot). Those seconds are to make up the difference for Disney getting a bit more elsewhere :)
I looked back at the scene where the box of toon shoes fell over and notice that the red shoe had jump up and kicked an officer in the family jewels. In Judge Doom’s twisted mind that appeared as assault on a human. An unnecessary punishment but that’s Judge Doom, INSANITY
@@salvatorecaravella365 what about a trial and minimal punishment versus a death sentence from a summary judgement. -------- That why society has separation of legislation, judgement and enforcement. -------- So he still overstepped the moral extent of his powers, since toons have no rights.
If you analyze what Roger says about "Toons are supposed to make people laugh", from the Toon perspective it's actually *Jessica* (not Roger) who "married up". Roger's an A-list movie star _because_ he's a funny Toon, while Jessica's a lowly nightclub performer because she's not.
The reveal of Judge Doom as a toon at the end with those red eyes is still one of my top-tier childhood traumas, haha. It scared the living shit out of me.
Thank God the living shite in question wasn't from Toontown: That would've smelled kinda' ... Funny. [OK: I'll stop. (But, wait; Hold up a sec': Whilst I'm at it... "What did one Boise-based underground cannibal say to the other after they had finished eating a clown they had just taken out that evening? " [ ... ] "'We're going to get into big trouble for this!!!' " [You know: because in the United States, murder is a felony, as is abuse of a corpse in many State jurisdictions; but in Idaho, cannibalism itself is also an outright felony].")] Oh, Jeez... I think I'm gonna' barf. 😲😲😲 😵😵😵 😷😷😷
The version I had taped off the TV had some of the more extreme bits cut out! It wasn’t until I got it on DVD that I saw the true horror of Judge Doom (and the shoe-dipping)!
That's the joke; How it plays on the double entendre of the word "Drawn" *_1)_* Produce (a picture or diagram) by making lines and marks, especially with a pen or pencil, on paper. *_2)_* Pull or drag (something such as a vehicle) so as to make it follow behind.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) was the first (and only, as of 2024) time cartoon characters from Walt Disney and Warner Bros. have appeared together on-screen.
Not entirely true. Well, sort of. "Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue," released in 1990, featured Bugs and Duffy (Warner Bros. character), as well as Huey, Dewy, and Louie, plus Winnie the Pooh and Tiger, the latter five famously Disney properties. Now this was only aired one-time for the small-screen plus VHS, and I don't remember if characters from the two companies actually shared any screen time, but it is was pretty crazy that they allowed it. It was a non-profit anti-drug special, so that makes it a lot more understandable. Edit: apparently all the cartoon all-stars come together in the end to sing a song, so yeah, Disney and Warner Bros. characters appeared together on screen in 1990.
Kind of also depends who you count as the owners of Roger and Jessica Rabbit because they have appeared in both Warner Bros properties (Tiny Toon Adventures) and Disney properties (the Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers movie from 2022) since
The documentary how this movie was made itself is unbelievable. The amount of work put into making it is mindblowing and actually all people involved did everything to put as many real/drawn interaction in as possible. "bumping the lamp" had become an expression for aminators to describe to go way over the expected - it origins in the scene with the swaying lamp and the cuffs where the swaying light perfectly matches the changing shadows on Roger.
(ETA Sorry I got the wrong guy here, it was BILL MURRAY who lost the chance) Wait, wasn’t this the role he missed out on because he had no professional Agent and he himself wasn’t there to take the phone call?
@@davidw.2791 He just thought at the time an animated mixed with live action film sounded kind of lame. In all honesty, it probably did to most actors back then lol.
@@dawb86 I thought he said he would have at least went to the audition had he been there to pick up the phone. ETA - I got the wrong guy, it was BILL MURRAY who lost the chance.
I’m so happy you acknowledged that subtle yet effective sweep shot of Eddie’s office that provides so much backstory and information in such a short little scene… it is truly the definition of the filmmaking rule “Show, don’t tell” done to perfection. The lighting establishes the fact that Eddie drank well into the night and slept at his desk until morning, the dust establishes how Eddie is unable to let go of his brother for such a long time, the newspaper headlines establish just how much Valiant & Valiant meant to Toontown and even the photo of the Valiant brothers growing up in the circus establish how Eddie can be so acrobatic in his later dance routine. The technical achievements of this film are always praised with very good reason, but man… the writing and the rest of the cinematography is just as good. Removing the toon element, this is still an engaging noir crime drama with some surprisingly biting commentary on LA and Hollywood culture… snappy dialogue and brilliant storytelling even without the talking. Not to mention the sheer achievement of getting a whole gaggle of animation studios to agree to appear together in this film… Disney and WB are obviously the biggest, but they aren’t the only two players here… 😮
I remember seeing this in the theaters back in the day. In the scene in the movie theater, it was loaded with kids and when Delores said “Sorry I’m late, I had to shake the weasels” my best friend and I were the only ones who got the joke. And we laughed so loud it was really embarrassing.
If you ever do some research on this movie, its amazing how much time, money, and resources went into it. The whole project took more than three years, and the production was essentially split in two for each separate goal: live action and animation. Everything related to the Toon characters was done by hand, and because Robert Zemeckis wanted them to appear more lifelike, each had to have 3 different elements: the basic image itself, highlights, and shadows. 326 animators worked full-time, contributing 82,080 frames of animation, storyboards and concept art. Also of note is the fact that Eddie's walk through R.K. Maroon's studio was so complex, there were over 180 individual animated elements! When assembled with the recorded footage, the result was stacks of paper and film eight feet high.
The 'making of' is WILD and a must watch! Hoskins had to rotate his wrist on queue to move the handcuffs in such a way to make sure Rodger would be able to be rotoscoped/added into the scene in the right places, and the guns carried by the weasels were on wires, puppeted around the scene from above by members of the crew. The blocking work and coordination needed was insane. The whole film is a creative masterclass.
I will never, ever stop being impressed by this movie. It's absolutely incredible. The Weasels carry real guns! Roger spits out real water! They push around chairs, open doors and bump into things! To say nothing of the great script and performances. The actors all interact with the Toon characters very convincingly. The score is fantastic too, especially during the scene in Eddie's office when he's looking at the old photos and we see his brother's desk. Robert Zemeckis was firing on all cylinders with this and "Back to the Future". How, how, HOW did this movie not get a Best Picture Oscar nomination??? I mean, I love "Rain Man" but come ON. "Roger Rabbit" absolutely deserved more than just technical nominations.
I saw this in the theater with mostly adults in the audience. The scene at the end when all the famous cartoon characters were waving good-bye, you could hear people getting choked up. It was like all your childhood friends having a reunion. Really great feeling but also sad. Just to have one more Saturday morning cartoon marathon...I can almost taste the 'Sugar Pops'.
Academy Award Nominations & Wins: Best Art Direction: Nominated Best Cinematography: Nominated Best Film Editing: Won Best Sound: Nominated Best Sound Effects: Won Best Visual Effects: Won Special Achievement Award: Won (Richard Williams) A groundbreaking film. Audiences were blown away by the animation. 🏆🏆🏆
Fun fact: After the film was finished shooting, Bob Hoskins (actor that play Eddie Valiant) said he started experiencing hallucinations of the cartoon characters from the movie for months, which was affecting his mental health so much, that he needed therapy. Because after spending 8 months trying to pretend he was actually talking to the toons in real life, it was hard to get rid of. So he had pretty much learnt how to hallucinate to get the role right.
I saw this in the theater in 1988, the same year I saw the hilarious A Fish Called Wanda. These are two of the funniest movies of the decade. Roger Rabbit was an incredible technical achievement and we were bowled over by it at the time. Very difficult film to make and they nailed it in every way, with the period feel, the wit, the use of the classic cartoon characters, the evocation of noir aesthetics and the flawless blend of animation and live action. The shadowing in the cartoons was something pretty revolutionary at the time. Great reaction.
This movie was made in between Back to The Future 1 and 2, it took years to make. They learned a lot of techniques with this movie and used in Back to the Future later.
The shoe was voiced by Nancy Cartwright, also known as Bart Simpson. This was such a classic Spielberg and Zemeckis collaboration. You may recall the Toontown Tunnel looking familiar - it was also used in Back to the Future Part II, another Spielberg - Zemeckis collab.
The reverse intros are a lot of fun. Also, this movie rules. Bob Hoskins was a legend. I grew up watching this and all of the adult jokes went way over my head well past the point that I should have been getting them just because I never reconsidered that they may be double entendres.
@@dawb86They used the actual plot that had been written for a third Chinatown movie but The Two Jakes bombed so bad at the box office they never bothered to make it. Also Jessica Rabbit's car in this movie is the exact same car Faye Dunaway's character drives in Chinatown. 34:14
And just as rooted in grim history. Oil and car companies conspiring to tear apart minority neighborhoods with freeways, siphoning tax base into dystopian suburbs they owned and developed while original cities rotted from the inside out. Nightmare fuel all the way down, from police-enforced segregation through Blood-Crip wars with thousands of dead. And they made _this_ movie out of that.
There being no winner is absolutely fitting when a Looney Tune is involved. Daffey Duck is absolutely chaotic and insane. I wish WB and Disney did more crossovers for stuff like that because it's absolutely entertaining.
"Who needs a car, we got the best public transportation system in the world!" "We do!?" its funny to me about how this movies plot is literally about the car industry's capture and destruction of public transport in favor of our current car-mandatory system. Only, with a happy ending instead of the reality we got. Good catch on that, most people don't really quite get that bit.
Hoskins was a treasure. The devotion to this role and not mention his sense of spatial awareness is amazing. Well worth watching short clips his process behind the scenes. Understanding he was doing in era when green screen type acting was not real big in cinema and most actors didn't have to learn it. That contrast is cool by the way. The darker tones. Not real life but an style crime noir movie with the cartoons and their vibrancy mixed together. All to the lesson about lighten up of course.
Fun fact: A dumdum is a type of bullet with an expanding tip, which would cause more damage than a regular bullet, kind of like a hollowpoint. However, in Toon Town, I'm guessing the definition is different.
The connection this movie makes between a freeway and taking over public transit in order to shut it down is a reference some reality of car companies taking over streetcar/tram companies before shutting them down (though it's more complicated than that). It's also a great inside joke that the company is called Cloverleaf - which is a type of freeway interchange, and the cloverleaf-shaped logo is basically a diagram of an interchange. This movie basically coined the term in movies of "lampshading" which is when the makers of the movie are showing off, especially their technical props, by adding a complication or level of detail to a scene that they didn't have to. It's from the scene in the back room of the bar where they choose to knock the hanging lamp & it starts swinging around, causing direction of the light keep moving all the time & all of the shadows to move as well - which the animators then have to animate all that for Roger, all by hand. Edit: correction: "bumping the lamp" as @samworf6550 mentioned.
Although it’s not the focus of the movie, yes, they are referring to how public transport in L.A. really got ruined and the layout of the city evolved into the joke that it is today.
You can do a search on TH-cam: "Roger Rabbit" and "trolleys" and see lots of discussions of this, both pros and cons. Robert Zemeckis, the director here also did Back To The Future, which has a similar theme - how America's downtowns, once the heart of an area, had become the "inner city" as shopping and housing shifted to the suburbs in the post-War era.
Almost - the actual term is "bumping the lamp." "Lampshading" is something different: it's when you deliberately call attention to a plot hole or inconsistency for humorous effect
I’m 68 years old and have been a consistent movie freak since age 8, but I never got around to watching this until…now. And it’s a hoot. No doubt I’ll watch it again.
Thanks for reacting to one of my all-time favourites! Glad to see so many people appreciating the genius of this movie. About Roger's character: It's important to realize that Roger Rabbit is 'lame' only from our point of view. For toons, the most prized characteristic is the ability to make people laugh. It's what they love to do more than anything, and Roger's a pro at it -- everything he does is for that reason. So when Betty Boop declared that Jessica was lucky to married to him, she wasn't joking or being snide. And when Jessica herself says that her favourite thing about Roger is, "He makes me laugh", it's the highest compliment one toon can pay another. From the toons' point of view, he's an A-list star. Jessica, on the other hand, is drawn sexy rather than silly. It's very difficult for her to be funny. As much as she's an object of fantasy for human males, she's just not all the appealing to her fellow toons. That's why we meet her singing lounge acts at the toon version of Harlem's Cotton Club, instead of starring in cartoon films.
being new parents yourselves, watching the beginning of the movie is so painful!!😂😂😂 and this was back in the day when animation was all hand drawn, no CGI, and no computers were harmed in the making of this movie! one more thing: this movie introduced me to Bob Hoskins, and his accent was so spot on for this role, I didn't know he was British until I heard him speak in an interview.
The behind the scenes of this movie is so interesting, from getting the copyrights to the characters (notice that Mickey and Bugs Bunny are in it for the same scene for the exact same amount of time, same thing with the dualing duck pianos) to how they pulled off the visual effects. This movie was a work of love and that's why it holds up so well.
The way the actors did everything and they animated the toons in later is incredible. Here is one example and my favorite scene. The penguins carrying real trays. They built the set you saw with the tables and left a 6ft gap or so under it with slits in the main floor so people under the set could walk around with trays attached to sticks in patterns. Then they just added the toons later so it was seamless. The gun that the weasels were holding when Roger was underwater was just suspended and controlled from above with strings and everything was added later. It's really incredible. I really recommend you watch a behind-the-scenes animation feature of this movie. Adding an edit: I also find it funny that you later learn that dip isn't dangerous to humans, but then you remember Doom put on gloves before he dipped the shoe. So it was a sneaky foreshadowing that the audience wasn't even aware of and they don't think about until the movie it over.
I like how you broke down both the negative and positive points of the freeway system. Although back in the late 1940s when the movie was set, the freeway idea would seam far-fetched. But obviously Judge Doom predicted the future, the red car is gone and freeways are everywhere.
I love this movie so much. Me and my sisters watched it all the time when we were kids...tbr schmitt you had me cracking up with your hatred for roger 😂...Awesome reaction y'all.
I remember seeing this in the cinema.. Its still just as good today. They made a documentary on how they invented all of the effects, they filmed, then they had to draw the animation on each film cell to cover the props. Even today, anyone who studies film production is told to watch it.
Hi Daniel & Samantha, glad you enjoyed the film it was wonderfully done. If you want to see Bob Hoskins in another different role, try the 1980 Crime/Thriller film (The Long Good Friday) also stars Helen Mirren.
You’ll never see this kind of cross licensing deal again. I knew that decades ago, and man how that’s gotten stronger as time has gone on. I grew up on this film, and this is one of those evergreen films that is always good for very different reasons, depending on your age. As a kid, you’re floored due to the volume of classic characters that appear. As an adult, Bob Hoskins and the technical expertise needed to pull this off take center stage. At least that’s been my experience.
Contractually, the Disney and WB licensed characters had to have equal amounts of screentime, hence why they are often on screen at the same time (bugs and mickey, daffy and donald etc)
Jessica Rabbit is modeled on the "Femme Fatale" character type usually associated with the "Film Noir" genre. And she was voiced by Kathleen Turner who herself played a modern Femme Fatale in the 1981 film "Body Heat" which was very much in the Film Noir tradition. Another well known Femme Fatale is Rita Hayworth's "Gilda" from the 1946 movie of the same name. The twist in that movie is that Gilda turns out to be a good person in the end. Jessica Rabbit's line, "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way." could be a nod to Gilda's character. (If you've seen "The Shawshank Redemption" you at least know what Gilda looks like. It is the movie they are watching in the prison and everyone goes nuts when she flips her hair and Gilda is the first poster Red acquires for Andy.) Gilda trailer: th-cam.com/video/9hTdgygrlOg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4mq2MjwSGEFZQR8S
You should definitely check out Bob Hoskins in The Long Good Friday, a much more serious role that he was most well known for before this one. Casting a serious actor to act alongside the Toons was a real masterstroke.
Fun fact: Before Christopher Lloyd was offered the role of Judge Doom, the original choice was for Christopher Lee. He rejected the role. Tim Curry auditioned for the role and was turned down because he was deemed too scary for the role. John Cleese auditioned, turned down because they didn't find a former member of Monty Python would be taken seriously for a sadistic villain.
I was a weird kid, because when this movie came out, I loved the noir aspects more than the toons. 😂 BTW this movie has a spiritual sequel in Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers (2022). It was a streaming release and went largely overlooked at the time, but it's a solid neo-noir comedy about the dark underbelly of Hollywood. [Minor spoilers...] Roger even has a cameo, pretty much cementing it as being in the same continuity as Who Framed.
Hey Daniel and Sam, it was the master himself Walt Disney who did the first animation and live action flick, "Mary Poppins" He and the animators won several Oscar awards back in 1964 for their breakthrough work
Not to be the “Actually…” guy, but the mix of cartoons and live action go further back at least to some really old Disney shorts starring a little girl named Alice, pre-dating Mickey Mouse back in the ‘20s. Nowhere near as high tech and convincing as Mary Poppins, of course.
The voice of Roger Rabbit did appear in Back to the Future 2. He played two characters. In the 2015 future, he plays the Clocktower man who gives Marty the idea to buy the almanac. In 1955, he plays the man Biff hires to clean his car if all the manure.
Spielberg couldn't get to use the color version of Betty Boop, but because Hershey had already purchased the rights to the black and white BB, Spielberg was able to use that version AND make a joke about it
7:56 "He's changing his... Toon." - Best Joke 2024 Samantha Schmitt
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Great joke!!😂😅
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Hey-o! 🥁
@@samantha_schmitt
Here's your Bad Joke of the Week Award: 🏆
There is a term in filmmaking/animation called "bump the lamp." It means to go waaaaay above and beyond the needs of s scene for authenticity's sake. In the scene when Eddie is sawing off the handcuffs, Roger is lit according to where he and the swinging overhead lamp are in the room. No one needed to properly light Roger in that scene, he's a cartoon and isn't *actually* in the room. But, the animation team thought it would bring a special level of authenticity to the scene. It pays off, and you don't even notice it unless you're looking for it.
"Bump the lamp"
But the same time the team was like “THANK YOU!!!” When Dolores stopped the lamp.😂
There are movies that are perfect. You don't even have to like them, you just have to understand the craft. This movie is PERFECTION
It's too bad Roger retired from acting after this one.
Dolores is the actress that played the killer android Zhora in Blade Runner, she's so lovely in this movie, it took me 30 years to realize who she was.
@@vulcan2519 She's also in Don't Tell Mom the Babysitters Dead : )
@@miller-joel even badder Jessica also retired
@@Tyu-f1s That's a crime.
100% hand drawn bob hoskins did almost the entire thing without visual cues just the voice of Roger off camera feeding him lines the no visuals show how talented he was
True tho they also used a stuffed roger toy stand in in some shots or rehearsals.
Theres a making of here on youtube and its really incredible. Its like when magicians show how they do their tricks.
Bob Hoskins was a brilliant British actor...
but Bob is a cartoon character himself so he had that experience to draw upon.
@@nooneofconsequence1251 true
So committed was he to the role that he ended up needing counselling for several weeks after it wrapped, to get past the experience of talking to imaginary characters for so long.
The got the original voice actress of Betty Boop to revise her for the movie..
She played aunt Bethany in Christmas vacation.
Her name was Mae Questel 🥰And as she said: "I still got it... Boop Oop A Doop" 😁
She was still quite active in Hollywood in the eighties. For example, she played the Jewish Mom and floating head in "New York Stories".
The estate of Helen Kane rolling their eyes
*reprise
This movie, simply put, is a treasure.
I believe I read somewhere that in order to have characters like Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck share the screen with Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, Disney and Warner Brothers came to an agreement that the characters had to have an equal amount of screen time. And that is why those characters appear on screen together, assuring that they would be on screen for the same amount of time.
Disney got REAL:LY petty, saying it had to be frame for frame match.
They also insisted on equal lines for the characters.
Everyone seems to forget that Porky Pig and Tinker Bell also shared screen time at the end, although Porky has a few seconds more
@@robertlehnert4148 They pretty much always have been, but now it's much worse.
@@TheRatsCast There is a split second of Bugs Bunny in the background earlier in the movie (when they’re going through the studio lot). Those seconds are to make up the difference for Disney getting a bit more elsewhere :)
Its been 36 years and I still feel bad for that shoe , RIP
@@Khabbi the cartoon shoe going in that dip is heart breaking Everytime
Justice for the shoe. 👞
I looked back at the scene where the box of toon shoes fell over and notice that the red shoe had jump up and kicked an officer in the family jewels. In Judge Doom’s twisted mind that appeared as assault on a human. An unnecessary punishment but that’s Judge Doom, INSANITY
@@salvatorecaravella365 what about a trial and minimal punishment versus a death sentence from a summary judgement. -------- That why society has separation of legislation, judgement and enforcement. -------- So he still overstepped the moral extent of his powers, since toons have no rights.
@@lethaldose2000 like I said that’s Judge Doom’s insane mind justifying his actions on the shoe. I wasnt trying to start a debate.
Betty Boop closing Eddie's mouth was a high point of the film.
Eddie: "She's married to Roger Rabbit?!"
Betty: "Yeah....what a lucky goil..." 👍👍
They hired the actor who originally voiced Betty Boop. Side note, she played the looney old grandma in National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
If you analyze what Roger says about "Toons are supposed to make people laugh", from the Toon perspective it's actually *Jessica* (not Roger) who "married up". Roger's an A-list movie star _because_ he's a funny Toon, while Jessica's a lowly nightclub performer because she's not.
@@Stratelier ... That may be true, but Jessica can tickle my fancy any day! 😄
The reveal of Judge Doom as a toon at the end with those red eyes is still one of my top-tier childhood traumas, haha. It scared the living shit out of me.
It was when the fake eyeballs hit the floor that I was traumatized for years! 🤣🤣🤣
Thank God the living shite in question wasn't from Toontown:
That would've smelled kinda' ...
Funny.
[OK: I'll stop.
(But, wait;
Hold up a sec':
Whilst I'm at it...
"What did one Boise-based underground cannibal say to the other after they had finished eating a clown they had just taken out that evening?
" [ ... ]
"'We're going to get into big trouble for this!!!'
" [You know: because in the United States, murder is a felony, as is abuse of a corpse in many State jurisdictions; but in Idaho, cannibalism itself is also an outright felony].")]
Oh, Jeez...
I think I'm gonna' barf.
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The version I had taped off the TV had some of the more extreme bits cut out! It wasn’t until I got it on DVD that I saw the true horror of Judge Doom (and the shoe-dipping)!
RIP, Bob Hoskins, Stubby Kaye, Alan Tilvern, and Richard LaParmentier.
Don't forget Mel Blanc (RIP) - the greatest voice actor of all time...
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Mae Questel, June Foray, Wayne Allwine and Jack Angel as well!
And probably soon to be Christopher Lloyd too. 😢
@@leniobarcelos1770why?
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way."
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i hear ya, sista
That's the joke; How it plays on the double entendre of the word "Drawn"
*_1)_* Produce (a picture or diagram) by making lines and marks, especially with a pen or pencil, on paper.
*_2)_* Pull or drag (something such as a vehicle) so as to make it follow behind.
That’s an exact quote from the original novel “Who Censored Roger Rabbit”
RIP cartoon shoe.
You didn’t deserve the dip
And the poor other shoe has to go on without their partner 😭😭😭
Easily the most horrifying part of this movie. It looks so painful and the shoe is so scared. And there’s no justification offered at all
@@LordVolkov oh I didn’t think of that!!
Drown me in artichoke dip
But it did kick the cop though, 99% people miss that.
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) was the first (and only, as of 2024) time cartoon characters from Walt Disney and Warner Bros. have appeared together on-screen.
Not entirely true. Well, sort of.
"Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue," released in 1990, featured Bugs and Duffy (Warner Bros. character), as well as Huey, Dewy, and Louie, plus Winnie the Pooh and Tiger, the latter five famously Disney properties.
Now this was only aired one-time for the small-screen plus VHS, and I don't remember if characters from the two companies actually shared any screen time, but it is was pretty crazy that they allowed it. It was a non-profit anti-drug special, so that makes it a lot more understandable.
Edit: apparently all the cartoon all-stars come together in the end to sing a song, so yeah, Disney and Warner Bros. characters appeared together on screen in 1990.
Kind of also depends who you count as the owners of Roger and Jessica Rabbit because they have appeared in both Warner Bros properties (Tiny Toon Adventures) and Disney properties (the Chip n Dale Rescue Rangers movie from 2022) since
This was a one-off deal
I was born in 1988. Between this movie, Beetlejuice, Coming to America, and Die Hard, what a year!
Rain Man
"Dabblin' in water colors, Eddie?" Probably my favorite line in the film. Fun reaction, Guys.
This movie is peak cinema. One of my favorite and most watched movies as a child. Such a classic!
The whole cross platform idea of Cartoons and Live action is well executed and the performance by Bob Hoskins was just hats off for an 1988 movie.
No other film of its kind has come close to matching the quality overall.
Bob Hoskins was dark in Hollywoodland. Peep it.
The documentary how this movie was made itself is unbelievable. The amount of work put into making it is mindblowing and actually all people involved did everything to put as many real/drawn interaction in as possible. "bumping the lamp" had become an expression for aminators to describe to go way over the expected - it origins in the scene with the swaying lamp and the cuffs where the swaying light perfectly matches the changing shadows on Roger.
Fun fact: Eddie Murphy admitted in an interview that he was offered the lead role, but turned it down because he didn't see the box office appeal.
@LeeLee-h4yThat made me laugh out loud.
I’m kind of glad
(ETA Sorry I got the wrong guy here, it was BILL MURRAY who lost the chance)
Wait, wasn’t this the role he missed out on because he had no professional Agent and he himself wasn’t there to take the phone call?
@@davidw.2791 He just thought at the time an animated mixed with live action film sounded kind of lame. In all honesty, it probably did to most actors back then lol.
@@dawb86 I thought he said he would have at least went to the audition had he been there to pick up the phone.
ETA - I got the wrong guy, it was BILL MURRAY who lost the chance.
I’m so happy you acknowledged that subtle yet effective sweep shot of Eddie’s office that provides so much backstory and information in such a short little scene… it is truly the definition of the filmmaking rule “Show, don’t tell” done to perfection.
The lighting establishes the fact that Eddie drank well into the night and slept at his desk until morning, the dust establishes how Eddie is unable to let go of his brother for such a long time, the newspaper headlines establish just how much Valiant & Valiant meant to Toontown and even the photo of the Valiant brothers growing up in the circus establish how Eddie can be so acrobatic in his later dance routine.
The technical achievements of this film are always praised with very good reason, but man… the writing and the rest of the cinematography is just as good. Removing the toon element, this is still an engaging noir crime drama with some surprisingly biting commentary on LA and Hollywood culture… snappy dialogue and brilliant storytelling even without the talking.
Not to mention the sheer achievement of getting a whole gaggle of animation studios to agree to appear together in this film… Disney and WB are obviously the biggest, but they aren’t the only two players here… 😮
and, it's not only a comedy, it's also a legit film noir
I remember seeing this in the theaters back in the day. In the scene in the movie theater, it was loaded with kids and when Delores said “Sorry I’m late, I had to shake the weasels” my best friend and I were the only ones who got the joke. And we laughed so loud it was really embarrassing.
The craftsmanship and artistry on display in this movie is beyond impressive. Not sure it has even been surpassed.
If you ever do some research on this movie, its amazing how much time, money, and resources went into it. The whole project took more than three years, and the production was essentially split in two for each separate goal: live action and animation. Everything related to the Toon characters was done by hand, and because Robert Zemeckis wanted them to appear more lifelike, each had to have 3 different elements: the basic image itself, highlights, and shadows. 326 animators worked full-time, contributing 82,080 frames of animation, storyboards and concept art. Also of note is the fact that Eddie's walk through R.K. Maroon's studio was so complex, there were over 180 individual animated elements! When assembled with the recorded footage, the result was stacks of paper and film eight feet high.
The 'making of' is WILD and a must watch! Hoskins had to rotate his wrist on queue to move the handcuffs in such a way to make sure Rodger would be able to be rotoscoped/added into the scene in the right places, and the guns carried by the weasels were on wires, puppeted around the scene from above by members of the crew. The blocking work and coordination needed was insane. The whole film is a creative masterclass.
I met Kathleen Turner, the voice of Jessica Rabbit, a few years ago and when she simply said "Hi, how are you?" with that voice, I blushed.
I will never, ever stop being impressed by this movie. It's absolutely incredible. The Weasels carry real guns! Roger spits out real water! They push around chairs, open doors and bump into things! To say nothing of the great script and performances. The actors all interact with the Toon characters very convincingly. The score is fantastic too, especially during the scene in Eddie's office when he's looking at the old photos and we see his brother's desk. Robert Zemeckis was firing on all cylinders with this and "Back to the Future". How, how, HOW did this movie not get a Best Picture Oscar nomination??? I mean, I love "Rain Man" but come ON. "Roger Rabbit" absolutely deserved more than just technical nominations.
Bob Hoskins walks around with Roger under his coat!
Recognize the “voice” of Jessica Rabbit????
Kathleen Turner from “Romancing The Stone”!
I was just perusing the comments looking to see if someone else had posted it .
Her singing voice was actress Amy Irving, wife of Steven Spielberg.
I saw this in the theater with mostly adults in the audience. The scene at the end when all the famous cartoon characters were waving good-bye, you could hear people getting choked up. It was like all your childhood friends having a reunion. Really great feeling but also sad.
Just to have one more Saturday morning cartoon marathon...I can almost taste the 'Sugar Pops'.
It was a one off deal
Academy Award Nominations & Wins:
Best Art Direction: Nominated
Best Cinematography: Nominated
Best Film Editing: Won
Best Sound: Nominated
Best Sound Effects: Won
Best Visual Effects: Won
Special Achievement Award: Won (Richard Williams)
A groundbreaking film. Audiences were blown away by the animation. 🏆🏆🏆
From 1988 it was innovative
Fun fact: After the film was finished shooting, Bob Hoskins (actor that play Eddie Valiant) said he started experiencing hallucinations of the cartoon characters from the movie for months, which was affecting his mental health so much, that he needed therapy. Because after spending 8 months trying to pretend he was actually talking to the toons in real life, it was hard to get rid of. So he had pretty much learnt how to hallucinate to get the role right.
It was not that simple at that with no CGI and digitally added scene
Aww Sam!! I loved the look on your face when you cracked your joke !! Good one , then you looked sad when he didn’t pay attention to it!!
We got it!!👍
I saw this in the theater in 1988, the same year I saw the hilarious A Fish Called Wanda. These are two of the funniest movies of the decade. Roger Rabbit was an incredible technical achievement and we were bowled over by it at the time. Very difficult film to make and they nailed it in every way, with the period feel, the wit, the use of the classic cartoon characters, the evocation of noir aesthetics and the flawless blend of animation and live action. The shadowing in the cartoons was something pretty revolutionary at the time. Great reaction.
It fits so well. Back in 1988 it's hard to make it today.
One of my favorite parts of the movie is Droopy Dog in the crowd at the end, ferociously waving his flag.
Harvey is the name of an invisible rabbit in the 1950 movie of the same name.
Jimmy Stewart. I was raised by my grandma, so I got that joke when I was little lol movie was written so well.
This movie was made in between Back to The Future 1 and 2, it took years to make.
They learned a lot of techniques with this movie and used in Back to the Future later.
The shoe was voiced by Nancy Cartwright, also known as Bart Simpson. This was such a classic Spielberg and Zemeckis collaboration. You may recall the Toontown Tunnel looking familiar - it was also used in Back to the Future Part II, another Spielberg - Zemeckis collab.
In hindsight we realized Doom likes to k’ll One Of A Pair. 😢
Jews have ALL tha connections 🕍💰
@@XxThePhantomFreezexX Robert Zemeckis isn't Jewish.
Roger's voice actor, Charles Fleischer, got a cameo in BttF2 as Terry, Biff's mechanic in '55 and clock tower preservationist in '15.
First movie I owned...back when VHS and VCRs were new. I was over the moon that an individual could _own_ a movie.
Favorite line "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way."
The reverse intros are a lot of fun. Also, this movie rules. Bob Hoskins was a legend. I grew up watching this and all of the adult jokes went way over my head well past the point that I should have been getting them just because I never reconsidered that they may be double entendres.
Exactly. The whole 'patty cake' bit was perfection lol.
This movie is lowkey a sequel to Chinatown
lol right
@@dawb86They used the actual plot that had been written for a third Chinatown movie but The Two Jakes bombed so bad at the box office they never bothered to make it. Also Jessica Rabbit's car in this movie is the exact same car Faye Dunaway's character drives in Chinatown. 34:14
Holy Santa Claus shit! That's awesome!
And just as rooted in grim history. Oil and car companies conspiring to tear apart minority neighborhoods with freeways, siphoning tax base into dystopian suburbs they owned and developed while original cities rotted from the inside out. Nightmare fuel all the way down, from police-enforced segregation through Blood-Crip wars with thousands of dead. And they made _this_ movie out of that.
Thanks to Samantha and TBR! 🐰
Fun fact: Mickey and Bugs, Daffy and Donald had to have equal screen time and there couldn't be a definite winner between the duck battle.
There being no winner is absolutely fitting when a Looney Tune is involved. Daffey Duck is absolutely chaotic and insane. I wish WB and Disney did more crossovers for stuff like that because it's absolutely entertaining.
Never gets old.
"Who needs a car, we got the best public transportation system in the world!" "We do!?" its funny to me about how this movies plot is literally about the car industry's capture and destruction of public transport in favor of our current car-mandatory system. Only, with a happy ending instead of the reality we got. Good catch on that, most people don't really quite get that bit.
That aspect of the film was highly appreciated by the audience I saw it with in Los Angeles.
The patty cake pics being shuffled so fast it animates was hilarious to me when i was a kid....
This was my fav movie as a little kid. I’d get home from school everyday and my mom would put this on while I did my homework
I love the reuse of the same tunnel as Back to the Future 2 as the exit from Toontown when Doom tips out the dip on the road.
Wow!! Can’t believe it!! TBR Schmitt again!!!!
Thank you guys!!!
Glad you’re not having trouble with strikes and copyright strikes!!!
Hoskins was a treasure. The devotion to this role and not mention his sense of spatial awareness is amazing. Well worth watching short clips his process behind the scenes. Understanding he was doing in era when green screen type acting was not real big in cinema and most actors didn't have to learn it. That contrast is cool by the way. The darker tones. Not real life but an style crime noir movie with the cartoons and their vibrancy mixed together. All to the lesson about lighten up of course.
He was robbed of an Oscar nomination
@RobertDufour-u3b why would he nominated for a Oscar ? It was really stiff competition, Hoskins has no chance.
What a great poll concept. Whodunit's are awesome and it's a great list of movies.
Fun fact: A dumdum is a type of bullet with an expanding tip, which would cause more damage than a regular bullet, kind of like a hollowpoint. However, in Toon Town, I'm guessing the definition is different.
Such a brilliant film. The animation is absolutely top tier. It still stands up to this day
I was eight years old when I saw this in theaters. This film is a masterpiece. Everything about it is great. Thanks you two for reacting to it.
The connection this movie makes between a freeway and taking over public transit in order to shut it down is a reference some reality of car companies taking over streetcar/tram companies before shutting them down (though it's more complicated than that).
It's also a great inside joke that the company is called Cloverleaf - which is a type of freeway interchange, and the cloverleaf-shaped logo is basically a diagram of an interchange.
This movie basically coined the term in movies of "lampshading" which is when the makers of the movie are showing off, especially their technical props, by adding a complication or level of detail to a scene that they didn't have to. It's from the scene in the back room of the bar where they choose to knock the hanging lamp & it starts swinging around, causing direction of the light keep moving all the time & all of the shadows to move as well - which the animators then have to animate all that for Roger, all by hand.
Edit: correction: "bumping the lamp" as @samworf6550 mentioned.
People have said this is a worthy sequel to Chinatown.
Although it’s not the focus of the movie, yes, they are referring to how public transport in L.A. really got ruined and the layout of the city evolved into the joke that it is today.
You can do a search on TH-cam: "Roger Rabbit" and "trolleys" and see lots of discussions of this, both pros and cons. Robert Zemeckis, the director here also did Back To The Future, which has a similar theme - how America's downtowns, once the heart of an area, had become the "inner city" as shopping and housing shifted to the suburbs in the post-War era.
Almost - the actual term is "bumping the lamp."
"Lampshading" is something different: it's when you deliberately call attention to a plot hole or inconsistency for humorous effect
@@samworf6550 Doesn’t even have to be a plot hole: Lorenzo Music’s Garfield often says “Nice touch” to sparkly wholesome things happening in the show.
You introduced each other backwards! I’ve been waiting years for this!
I’m 68 years old and have been a consistent movie freak since age 8, but I never got around to watching this until…now. And it’s a hoot. No doubt I’ll watch it again.
I could have sworn y'all watched this already. 😄
8:00 Good one, Sam. 😄👍
I've never seen anyone dislike Roger so much. 😄
this is the first movie I ever saw in a movie theater. I went for my 9th birthday
This was one of my defining experiences at the theater as child too. It set the bar high.
The director of the beginning cartoon chewing out Roger is legendary producer Joel silver 😊
The inspiration for Tom Cruise’s character in Tropic Thunder
Wow, I never knew that.
No it isn't. T 34:15 he director in the cartoon scene at the beginning is Robert Zemeckis.
I love the reveal of the baby being a cigar smokin' lecher.
@@briancooper1412 Zemeckis may appear elsewhere in the movie, but he is not the director Raoul J. Raoul, that was indeed Joel Silver.
Thanks for reacting to one of my all-time favourites! Glad to see so many people appreciating the genius of this movie.
About Roger's character: It's important to realize that Roger Rabbit is 'lame' only from our point of view. For toons, the most prized characteristic is the ability to make people laugh. It's what they love to do more than anything, and Roger's a pro at it -- everything he does is for that reason.
So when Betty Boop declared that Jessica was lucky to married to him, she wasn't joking or being snide. And when Jessica herself says that her favourite thing about Roger is, "He makes me laugh", it's the highest compliment one toon can pay another. From the toons' point of view, he's an A-list star.
Jessica, on the other hand, is drawn sexy rather than silly. It's very difficult for her to be funny. As much as she's an object of fantasy for human males, she's just not all the appealing to her fellow toons. That's why we meet her singing lounge acts at the toon version of Harlem's Cotton Club, instead of starring in cartoon films.
Lol i remember the ending when the dude gets flattened used to scare the shit outta me as a kid
I watched this movie so many times as a kid. It is such a classic, and I still love it.
being new parents yourselves, watching the beginning of the movie is so painful!!😂😂😂
and this was back in the day when animation was all hand drawn, no CGI, and no computers were harmed in the making of this movie!
one more thing: this movie introduced me to Bob Hoskins, and his accent was so spot on for this role, I didn't know he was British until I heard him speak in an interview.
Its been years since I've seen this movie, but I've loved it everytime I watched it, its completely Bonkers 😂
The behind the scenes of this movie is so interesting, from getting the copyrights to the characters (notice that Mickey and Bugs Bunny are in it for the same scene for the exact same amount of time, same thing with the dualing duck pianos) to how they pulled off the visual effects. This movie was a work of love and that's why it holds up so well.
The way the actors did everything and they animated the toons in later is incredible. Here is one example and my favorite scene. The penguins carrying real trays. They built the set you saw with the tables and left a 6ft gap or so under it with slits in the main floor so people under the set could walk around with trays attached to sticks in patterns. Then they just added the toons later so it was seamless. The gun that the weasels were holding when Roger was underwater was just suspended and controlled from above with strings and everything was added later. It's really incredible. I really recommend you watch a behind-the-scenes animation feature of this movie.
Adding an edit: I also find it funny that you later learn that dip isn't dangerous to humans, but then you remember Doom put on gloves before he dipped the shoe. So it was a sneaky foreshadowing that the audience wasn't even aware of and they don't think about until the movie it over.
I like how you broke down both the negative and positive points of the freeway system. Although back in the late 1940s when the movie was set, the freeway idea would seam far-fetched. But obviously Judge Doom predicted the future, the red car is gone and freeways are everywhere.
I love this movie so much. Me and my sisters watched it all the time when we were kids...tbr schmitt you had me cracking up with your hatred for roger 😂...Awesome reaction y'all.
I remember seeing this in the cinema..
Its still just as good today.
They made a documentary on how they invented all of the effects,
they filmed, then they had to draw the animation on each film cell to cover the props.
Even today, anyone who studies film production is told to watch it.
Hi Daniel & Samantha, glad you enjoyed the film it was wonderfully done. If you want to see Bob Hoskins in another different role, try the 1980 Crime/Thriller film (The Long Good Friday) also stars Helen Mirren.
I don't think I've ever seen TBR so infuriated by a character 😂
A great watch, with him begging for Roger's murder at every turn
Ash from “Alien”. TBR wanted to [violent crime] him!! 😲😆
@@the-NightStar 👍
The behind the scenes on this is well worth the watch itself. Very unique for the time it came out.
Never clicked faster! (Also, the reverse intro never fails to amuse me).
Who Framed Roger Rabbit was my first drive in movie in 1989 at age 7 , still can remember the whole night like it was yesterday
Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤
Note that all the ingredients in Dip are all paint thinners.
That was the thinning concoction we used in oil painting class in college.
That is outstanding. The ingenuity in the making. It was so dark and interesting. The technical talented. Awesome
You’ll never see this kind of cross licensing deal again. I knew that decades ago, and man how that’s gotten stronger as time has gone on.
I grew up on this film, and this is one of those evergreen films that is always good for very different reasons, depending on your age. As a kid, you’re floored due to the volume of classic characters that appear. As an adult, Bob Hoskins and the technical expertise needed to pull this off take center stage. At least that’s been my experience.
Contractually, the Disney and WB licensed characters had to have equal amounts of screentime, hence why they are often on screen at the same time (bugs and mickey, daffy and donald etc)
Jessica Rabbit is modeled on the "Femme Fatale" character type usually associated with the "Film Noir" genre. And she was voiced by Kathleen Turner who herself played a modern Femme Fatale in the 1981 film "Body Heat" which was very much in the Film Noir tradition.
Another well known Femme Fatale is Rita Hayworth's "Gilda" from the 1946 movie of the same name. The twist in that movie is that Gilda turns out to be a good person in the end. Jessica Rabbit's line, "I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way." could be a nod to Gilda's character. (If you've seen "The Shawshank Redemption" you at least know what Gilda looks like. It is the movie they are watching in the prison and everyone goes nuts when she flips her hair and Gilda is the first poster Red acquires for Andy.)
Gilda trailer: th-cam.com/video/9hTdgygrlOg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4mq2MjwSGEFZQR8S
That shoe scene left emotional scars on us as kids! haha
This movie is now canonically part of the Cloverfield universe as far as I'm concerned.
It's so cute when they switch the intro
I saw this in the theater in 1988. I'm still not over that shoe that Judge Doom murdered.
You should definitely check out Bob Hoskins in The Long Good Friday, a much more serious role that he was most well known for before this one. Casting a serious actor to act alongside the Toons was a real masterstroke.
There were trolleys in every major town. You could travel all day for pennies. Ford and Firestone bought them and said they were too bad to be fixed.
Loved this movie when it came out.
Fun fact: Before Christopher Lloyd was offered the role of Judge Doom, the original choice was for Christopher Lee. He rejected the role.
Tim Curry auditioned for the role and was turned down because he was deemed too scary for the role.
John Cleese auditioned, turned down because they didn't find a former member of Monty Python would be taken seriously for a sadistic villain.
The actress that plays Delores (girlfriend at the bar) is also the replicant snake lady in Bladerunner.
Joanna Cassidy, a.k.a 'Zhora'. I remember a short-lived TV show with her in the '80s and some other appearances on TV.
What a masterpiece this movie is! I'm glad You guys decided to watch it! Take care!
I was a weird kid, because when this movie came out, I loved the noir aspects more than the toons. 😂
BTW this movie has a spiritual sequel in Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers (2022). It was a streaming release and went largely overlooked at the time, but it's a solid neo-noir comedy about the dark underbelly of Hollywood. [Minor spoilers...]
Roger even has a cameo, pretty much cementing it as being in the same continuity as Who Framed.
Oh MAn!....the movie "Identity" was a Banger!.......Must watch that movie guys!!!!
The voice of Bart Simpson doing the sounds of the cute little shoe that gets dipped.
One of my favorite films, the work alone behind this back then, just incredible. Bob Hoskins was such a great actor
lol, I didn't know people could dislike Roger this much xD
I love Roger!
@@jesterforhire So do I. Was so surprised by his reaction.
To this Day it's still crazy, how they did this Movie. Saw it as a Kid in Theatre and it's still one of my Favs.
Hey Daniel and Sam, it was the master himself Walt Disney who did the first animation and live action flick, "Mary Poppins" He and the animators won several Oscar awards back in 1964 for their breakthrough work
Not to be the “Actually…” guy, but the mix of cartoons and live action go further back at least to some really old Disney shorts starring a little girl named Alice, pre-dating Mickey Mouse back in the ‘20s. Nowhere near as high tech and convincing as Mary Poppins, of course.
@@joeconcepts5552 If we take "flick" to mean "feature," _Mary Poppins_ is still correct, though.
@@HuntingViolets No, Song Of The South came out in 1946, no matter how much Disney tries to hide it now.
Gene Kelly did a dance routine with Jerry mouse in 'Anchors Aweigh' in 1945
And the penguin waiters from Poppins are included.
The voice of Roger Rabbit did appear in Back to the Future 2. He played two characters. In the 2015 future, he plays the Clocktower man who gives Marty the idea to buy the almanac. In 1955, he plays the man Biff hires to clean his car if all the manure.
Spielberg couldn't get to use the color version of Betty Boop, but because Hershey had already purchased the rights to the black and white BB, Spielberg was able to use that version AND make a joke about it
I love hearing how things work out for the better when obstacles are thrown up, part of the creative process is ducking and weaving and pushing on