🤣 I've been stung too many times by manufacturers who just don't care about their customers. I've totally given up with Falkniven especially and I'm glad I've managed to at least stop one person making a bad decision. Go and get a custom from ZlKnives or Savchenko on Instagram. Awesome dudes, making amazing knives for very very affordable prices. Cheaper than Fallkniven.
@@stroppystuff641 The sad thing is: Once a company beomes large enough and the finance guys take over price is ofter decoupled from cost and quality and is based solely on the market. So marketing is working on the brand instead of the product. Next step is cutting costs and that means lower quality for higher prices. It's a shame really.
🤣 yeah i had some troubles with uneven convexes as well but in my case they were mostly sharpened out quite easily with a 400 stone. I'm more surprised about the edge retention in your test though
It's possible there was some grit or sand on the wood I was cutting which caused the roll but I doubt it. The edge retention generally seems okay on it, I just really dislike the design. I'm going to make new scales and round off the pommel area and put it in a new sheath. That should fix all my issues :)
@@stroppystuff641 as you know I really like fallkniven but I do think the S1 is a bit of a miss. I don't have a single one. It's either too big or too short. I like the A1 F1 combo a lot more. As for the X series I think it's made for the fans. I don't dislike it but I think it kinda goes against the intent of fallkniven knives being cold resistant knives that are grippy for gloves it doesn't make much sense to keep the same handle scales yet expose the tang. Anyway, I think it's great to hear your view on this in the video
The rattling from the sheath is because of the knife being loose inside. And, it's Intentional. Here in Laponia we get low as -40-50c degrees and then be sure it will stuck inside of it, so you know. It was made with the help of soldiers and hunters who are experineced in Arctic climates. Most Sami knives, like the Leuku, also sits ä little loose where the steel meet the sheath. Hope it became clearer now. Be safe with knives
After living in the tropics for several years I got rid of everything (except my Buck 110FG and Vanguard - my hunting knives) and replaced everything with a PC, F1 and A1. Especially leather suffers badly in humid tropical areas and just had to be replaced. Very happy with my Fällkniven combo. The little PC sits in a belt pouch, the F1 is my EDC fixed blade which I swap out for the A1 in the countryside when it might be needed.
i think in situations where someone's carrying a fixed blade on their person, you've got to expect that the knife might be pressed into some laborious, repetitive and overall "hard" tasks in less-than-ideal conditions. i can see how the handle on that fallkniven could leave the user with burning blistered hands in those sorta use cases. i've seen a bit of a trend of late for knife tangs extending proud of handle scales, and i think it can eff right off. it's as if market research indicated that "full tang" construction helps sell blades, and some manufacturers thought "okay! we're gonna make something _even tangy-er_ ".
Not sure if this was brought up, I am wondering if DLT, or whoever delivered the knife, sent one to you that was sent back after previous owner had it and did damage on it? Did you ever contact DLT about this ?
I don't find the X series to be as bad as you say. I have very rough hands, so the spine to scale transition doesn't bother me at all. As far as the thickness goes, I prefer a beefier blade, lends a bit of confidence during hard use. For those that don't use their hands every day, I guess the comfort value of this series of knives is an issue.
I have the F1X Elmax. Don’t have any of the issues you mention here. Blade absolutely perfect, shaving hair out of the box. Sheath fits tight. Feels great in the hand. LOVE the thick blade/tang. My complaint is that the back edge of the blade isn’t sharp enough for sparking ferro rod effectively. Awesome knife. I found your review unnecessarily scathing. Loses credibility when it’s an unconstructive rant rather than a more matter of fact side by side comparison.
Sorry but you slightly overshoot. I perfectly understand your anger about the blade, that is an absolute no go, should never happen and questions seriously FKs quality control. You must send it back and hopefully get a discount together with a brand new knife. As for the rest of your review you get carried away by your anger. The thickness makes the knife a batoning champion and used as survival knife, saves a hatchet. The sheath features two perfect blocking mechanisms and is designed for subzero environments. The rattling is a consequence of grantig the necessary space with makes sure the blade never block-freezes in the sheath. Your TRC will never be accepted with that sheath for military use around the polar circle. Etc, etc,. Bottom line: your complain is more than valid but the knife is big stuff if delivered as should. Cheers, Max
I am glad I didn't have your experience. I got the S1x and the A1x a few months ago and have not had a chance to use it. But after holding it for periods at a time and stroping constantly because I am chomping at the bits to get out and use it, I find it weighty but comfortable. I plan to wear buckskin gloves when ever I use it so the grippy scales works great, even still holding it bare hand is comfortable though I haven't choppped anything yet. I find the sheath passable but very noisy if the locking bar is not applied, mine does not rattle when locked. I don't buy their excuse regarding the freezing temperature may cause your knives to become stuck. I have never had that experience with any knives in the winter of north America. All in all a great knife with a perfect convex grind. I am surprised that your knife had that crazy edge problem. I would send it back, period! No need to deal with such an expensive knife and hating it. I have had issues with the Bark River knives initial quality with their factory convex edges being wavy and uneven. I had to reprofile my brand new Aurora completely. Hopefully as time progress you would appreciate it more if you hold on to it.
Hey Sam! I understand where you're coming from with some of this although I don't necessarily agree with all of it. For example the handles being comfortable with gloves, it's very possible to make the handle comfortable with and without gloves, but Fallkniven always pull the "cold weather" card on us as an excuse. Just because it works well with gloves doesn't mean you should neglect the gloveless usability, especially when handle shape is key for grip rather than handle material. I do plan on keeping it, I'm going to make some micarta scales and flush fit them to the tang so that it's all nice and comfortable to use for long periods as a bushcrafter :)
Changing the scales should make the S1X more comfortable to hold. I hope you were able to rectify the uneven edge problem. I can't believe fallkniven let such a product out of their factory, and I thought Bark River had quality issues. I believe you also weren't thrilled with the thickness of the blade at 6mm. I have to admit that I am also amazed how a knife at just over 5" can be so beefy. But it works. The X series with its very thick blades also comes as probably the sharpest knives out of the box. I like the heft for clearing small branches from a piece of wood for poles or walking sticks. The closest knife to the S1X is my Coldsteel SRK in San Mai, and I believe the Fallkniven is superior. Though not always because I believe the coldsteel master hunter is superior to the F1X. These knives are just as personal to each user as a pair of shoes. Any I enjoy would probably not be useful or beneficial to another person. Luckily there are so many choices. Good luck with your modification! I hope it works out for you.
It also depends on what you do with it. Like I am very anal about my mirror polishes, especially on my NL5, and the NL5 had 2 dips in the 420j2 lamination that took about 12-16 hours of hand work to get out (RIP skerper 180). Yeah, if you don't do something like that you won't get to notice that (just assuming you don't). Glad you have no problems though
I have a Fallkniven F1x (so not the same model, obviously) but the fit and finish seems much better than your S1x. My blade is perfect and the knife fits the sheath well (very secure and no rattling when locked in place). My handle seems better finished too - not the same sharp edges you describe. I wonder - did you check the HiddenTag code to be sure it's not a knock-off?
@@stroppystuff641 I also bought one of the S1x knives and it is perfect. The HiddenTag checked out, so it's legit. My sheath also had rough edges on the webbing cuts (took me a couple of minutes to smooth it off), but otherwise the fit and finish is excellent and the knife fits snugly into the sheath. My blade is perfect - and extremely sharp out of the box. Rather than showing your blade after you had worked on it, I think it would have been fairer to show the blade brand new, and tested the blade without messing with it. So, given my positive experience with the S1x and the F1x (admittedly a very small sample size), I think your review is rather unfair on Fallkniven as a company.
I had the same issue with the factory edge using it out of the box to make a fire drill; multiple micro chips on relatively soft wood. After my own restoration of the convex edge, this no longer occurred. I’m hearing this a lot from Falkniven owners so seems more the factory bevel. I agree with you on the “sharp angles” on handle. Ironically I felt their sheath modification was great in its simplicity but they worked out one problem and created another: - thermorin scales : soft thus TOO thin in 2 months of non heavy use they peaked off from the points where they were fastened by screws; less than 1mm thermerin held by screw. I actually emailed Peter as to what I thought a great marketing idea of multiple replacement scales; since they are detachable one could “dress up “ one’s knife like multiple ties for one suit. Also maybe micarda??? No plans for that was the response nor are there ANY after market people making generic replacements that one can have shipped. Leading back to: - even if there were it would negate the modified sheath as the opening and quite imaginative fastening lock that really WILL support the knife upside down can’t accommodate anything other than the thin thermorin handles - I even get the concept of the scales not flush with the handle back if one is batonning this protects the delicate thermorin but exposes the hand - they FINALLY FIXED the lanyard hole. Put it at the end point of the handle which was a bitch on their snapping retainer sheaths as the retainer covered the hole negating ability to attach lanyard as well as impossible to easily re- stow with gloves on. But irony again - they didn’t need to move lanyard hole as the new sheath requires no snap retainer. - again I liked the new sheath but given I went through 3 sets of replacement scales I eventually hand wrapped the handle which made the new sheath I LOVED obsolete - the back of handle? The only application over a flat extended pummel is what “glass breaking”? Or more realistically combat skull crusher - it tends to lose the hammer function way more applicable on a regular basis than a EMT “car rescue” To conclude with my humble recommendations as an owner and lover of more than 10 Falkniven knives: 1) keep the true full tang and replacement handle possibility. Sell from factory with thicker micarta handle. 2) keep same excellent sheath design but obviously widen the opening to accommodate the thicker handle. ( personal note I am not a kydex fan. Kydex does not handle temperature change especially cold well. Good old fashioned plastic does. I believe Falkniven once came to a similar conclusion having tried kydex) 3) offer choices of scales. This allows one to keep an extra pair on them should an accident in the field occur or more likely to dress up that old suit with a new tie instead of buying a 100 new suits for each affair. We are not all girls yet. 4) go back to flat pummel. When I say “hammer “ none of Falkniven handles were ever good for hammering but if hammering the knife into a stump to more expeditiously sharpen tent stakes, spears ( as from my journey on TH-cam not “being girls”= thinking oneself a navy seal/neanderthal/warrior) a flat pummel is better and if one must still crush the occasional skull of the other tribesman stalking you through the forest. Thickness tends to be subjective as to what one wants to use a knife for. I do agree that this level of thickness ( equal to the A2 which I also own and is of acceptable chopping length) diminishes practicality as the knife for more utilitarian use. I’ve never had the original S1 or F1 snap and the worked out the reinforced point and shortening of swedge to pass a Survival Lilly test. Again why thicken a blade that size and reduce more common cutting camp chores? Combat again? This knife will go through a car hood but again how often do we need to do that? I do personally like the added weight of it in my hand but that’s just me. For me there are more goods than bads, the S1x works for me with my own modifications that sadly lead me to saying goodbye to a sheath I actually found innovative. It seems Falkniven will flatten one tire to reinvent new wheels
Some really solid points👍. I eventually made some micarta scales for myself actually and it greatly improved the knife, I posted a video about it after I posted this one. I've seen lots of reports of fallkniven blades chipping and it's likely due to them burning the edges while grinding. One of the guys from the DBK discord got really badly treated by the Fallkniven customer service too, they said the X series wasn't suitable for chopping and he was abusing the knife 🤣
More irony as these are for the most part Japanese blades with convex grinds, Japanese makers tending to emphasize whetstones. Machine grinding for traditional Japanese makers is almost like putting ketchup on your filet mignon in a five-star restaurant. If you are ever interested in selling any scales hit me up. I have an S1x as well.
Also did you notice HOW Falkniven now says not for chopping in their marketing? Further irony when they “thickened” the knife for what if not chopping or batonning?
@@stroppystuff641 I like the EKA Nordic in most aspects. It has better cutting than for example the Mora Garberg, although being thicker than the Garberg. Also looks drop dead gourgeous in the handle, which, with the "thumb guard", is made for carving both towards and away from the you. One minus is it has not a true scandi grind, but a micro grind and it's bcs to prevent from chipping, my guess is. One can instead self grind a "Scandivex", I've heard. The newer model comes with a leather sheath, but i'm ordering an older Kydex version which comes with a sharpener and fire steal on it, as spare part. At least I'm considering to do so. BTW fällkniven is very overpriced in some of their stuff. Keep the contents up. You have much to consider coming to Swedish knoves, but seem to now "the ultimate tool/weapon" - the holy knife. Cheers man!
I think it largely comes down to personal preference and what you intend to do with it. IMO one of the closest production knives is probably the TRC Apocalypse but it's very expensive.
@@severinseverin268 yes unfortunately TRC are mega expensive but lots of customs are quite affordable! If checkout ZLKNIVES (Instagram or his website). He makes all sorts of awesome designs. His "workhorse" model is a Bushcrafter design, you can get it in 4v for around €270. He's a great guy too. Of course there is also Dulo, around €220-240 but very long wait times. Maybe after the Russia/Ukraine war is over Lamnia will have restocked on their OwlKnives. They're really excellent and very affordable
There is NO way that blade came straight from factory - that thing has been hacked by someone who didn't have a clue. If my blade came in that poor condition, there would be NO hestitation it would be sent right back from where it came. Even a fake would have better quality than that - and you say you couldn't be bothered to send it back. ummmmm
Yes I agree. Strange. Fällkniven my opinion has a strong quality inspection of their knives. My Fällkniven Taiga TF2 was in 100 % perfect condition. The blade, the grinding and shape of the blade was better than my Bark Rivers. What I did not like about it that the sheath dulls the edge. Even gently puttning the knife in to the sheath dulls the edge.
Agree, I’d send that back in a heartbeat. Recently received the F1X Elmax, and the fit and finish is the best I’ve ever seen and the sharpest out-of-the-box edge I’ve bought. The only complaint I can agree with this review is the sharp finger guard. I used a round ceramic honing rod and polished it. It doesn’t show, but an almost microscopic rounding did the trick. Lovely knife.
I don't know about your tests (you didn't present them), but you keep mentioning the prices, and I can buy an S1X with less than 200€, but I can't find anywhere a South Pole for less than 340€. It's a battle of a better steel vs better grind. Without some hard foam in the tip of the sheath, most knives are rattling. Thickness and weight - you could have chosen the S1 Classic - 100g lighter. That's why I've sold mine - not choppy enough. The S1x seems pretty customizable, so the lack of roundness finish, or the thickness of the scales, don't seem such a big problem. But if you paid over 300€, I can understand your views. Thanks for the video.
In the UK the S1x is £270 and the south pole could be had for under £300. So there isn't much difference in the price for us. Seems like we have vastly different retail prices available to us 👍
Strange that the QC on your knife was done so poorly. I have had none of the problems you've had. For the the S1X completes it's role as a easy to sharpen knife quite well, i do not use it as a substitute for an axe. Which i guess is something people are doing with loads of different knives. I do baton logs when they're cut to make "inner sticks" for fethering and so on. I've had it out for extended periods of time, and having worked in the industrial sector for some years my hands really aren't bothered by either the coldness or the grip feel. Also there i do not have the issues you're facing. The transition between the tang and the scales is near flawless. Barely noticeable, and a quick "flat polish" on the sides reviled no "spot shininess" which would indicate a uneven surface the same way it will on a car body etc etc. I've not managed to roll the edge so severely that a quick stropping has not fixed it, even using it on hardwood. I guess the absolutely atrocious part of Fallkniven is how they managed to let that knife through production and in to customer hands. Seeing this video almost makes me wish i could refund mine. To make them finally take the playing field seriously. It seems, they're comfortable with their brand name and have started getting lazy, which sadly is common for every industry.
i have a regular F1 but in leather sheath. Maybe it was an old production line with leather sheaths. I ordered one from eBay a few years ago, it was opened but not used, and I think the owner had it for a couple of years too. Still performing okay till this day.
Never liked the overpriced Fallkniven stuff. I had the original F1 and even that was overly thick in with again overly thick convex grinds. As you experienced, I also get quite a few of chips and rolls after few minutes light use. Which made me totally loose my faith on VG10. I do not think they got the heat right on their knives and this is surprising as they have been made in Japan. Japanese usually know how to heat treat, especially if its their own steel.
the second you showed the first picture of that knife i immediately knew that that blade was VERY OBVIOUSLY a knife someone destroyed trying to sharpen and then made a return on. the fact you didn’t immediately figure that out and instead blamed fallkniven for that and then proceeded to go on a totally non constructive rant crying as if this knife (that again was very clearly destroyed by another person and didn’t leave the factory that way) was intentionally made badly and then sent to you specifically as some kind of personal attack. you also said you ‘couldn’t be bothered to send it back’ ??? you got a secondhand knife that some novice ruined, blamed fallkniven for something another person did, didn’t even send it back to the dealer for a replacement and yet you think the problem is fallkniven lmfao? also those rolls in the edge you complained about are 100% a failure of your sharpening of the knife not the knife itself. you could’ve made the edge much too thin, or not properly debuted it. this video is just beyond stupid.
@@stroppystuff641yeah no response because logic hurts huh? your fault you were too damn lazy to send what was clearly a secondhand blade back to bladehq if it was truly as fucked up as you claim when you got it.
I think it's so thick because your modern knife buyer these days wants an overbuilt semi-sharp pry bar to whack through logs for youtube videos, and not much else. Gimme a thin slicy knife and an axe any day.
I have a similar knife and I am very satisfied. I don't have the problems you describe at all and I use it heavily. Are you sure it's not a fake copy? Very strange!
Well it sure looks like you got a bad one. Well explained points. I like Fällkniven and was looking forward to an upgrade for the F1 and S1 from 2011 since they are still wonderful knives, but perhaps outdated by now…. That handle comfort is very important! they should round them off a bit and check their QC. I can’t believe they are all so bad. Probably find it out for myself in the future, hahahaha. Cheers (and my liking for Fällkniven comes from the experiences with the F1 and S1) I hope people don’t get wacko because of your experience
I think you're going to find out that it's exactly the same as mine but with a potentially better or maybe worse grind on it 😂. All the other ones I've look at have these same issues as they're very poor design aspects rather than "faults". In assuming you're up to date with the issue Nils had with his Fallkniven? His blade was chipping out constantly and Fallkniven told him that chopping small sticks was gross misuse of the knife and that it was designed for precision cutting tasks. In what world is a 6 mm thick blade suitable for precision cutting tasks? Fallkniven customer service sucks, their design sucks, their manufacturing sucks and their quality control sucks 😂
I've handled three Fallknivens and every one had serious QC issues. I would never buy one sight unseen. It's mind boggling that they get away with these failures in their price bracket.
Something aint right. He was given some left over knife someone messed up. Not buying they send knives out like that being sold, way too many knives from one of the best production knife companies on the planet. The S1x I have is outstanding and little beats the steel used in that knife on the balance.
@@jakehu6671that’s what the poster SAID. but this knife very clearly was fucked up by someone that wasn’t fallkniven. so either bladehq mistakenly sent him a return, in which case it’s on him for not contacting them and sending it back for a replacement, or he bought it from somewhere else
Damn that is a shame I was really interested in this knife design, looks, steel, etc. I just done get why they would have the edges unrounded, of course I could easily fix the sharp finger guard and pommel but at that price point I shouldn't have to. I also don't understand they wouldn't just make the scales flush with the tang its so easy to yet they don't ?? And the quality control is concerning as well, I purchased one of their slip joints a while back that had some qc issues main one being a crushed washer that made the blade pretty stiff to open. "The best knives in the world!" Oh well anyone got some recommendations on their other models? alot of people seem to like the F1 was kinda interested In the f1x or the normal f1 in cos
Unless knives are ground wet then every edge on every knife by every company is burnt, to what degree depends on many factors; too many to list here. To grind a blade without coolant running over the blade and belt takes an _extremely_ long time as it’s one light pass, water dunk, one light pass, water dunk, etc, etc. I know of less than a handful of knife makers worldwide (Japan being the exception where they use Waterstone wheels a lot) that grind wet to avoid burnt edges, brittle edges, and many sharpenings on the customers part to get to stable steel. The knife industry is a bad joke.
The problem is that these companies cut corners to keep up with demand and in the process, they lose all or most of the things that made them so desirable in the first place.
I believe the reason the knife was made that thick is for prying. I read that Swede fighter pilots are issued this knife. There’s no doubt in my mind that this knife was made to be a survival knife, not so much a bushcraft knife. I’ve never seen it perform any task exceptional well. With that being said, I don’t even own a single knife from Fallkniven. I can’t bring myself to spend that much money on a mediocre performing knife that comes with an ugly sheath. I even saw Joe X destroy it easily, which is expected; most knives will break/fail when abused, I just didn’t expect the Fallkniven to fail that quickly for a knife at its price point. I know 1095 is cheap steel, but I love Esee’s knives in the way they perform and their “No questions asked” warranty.
Understandable that you don't trust me and I've got no problem with that. But I'm hardly an inexperienced sharpener. To be honest I think it's pretty evident from the pictures that it's obvious I couldn't have made that wavy grind on my stones because for a start you could see the grind lines from the belts on it. But I appreciate your feedback and if I come across something like this in the future I'll show the before photos too.
@@stroppystuff641 good to hear for me it isnt much different either all my final exams r done soon tmrw is english exam gonna enjoy the time soon when theres no more school related shit to worry about for some months haha😆then i will have more time for bushcraft again allready sharpened some of the my blades #stroppystuff
@@stroppystuff641 Thanks man! Don;'t listen to all those materialistic worshipers, what you said about the S1X was true and you did a really good video, presenting the flaws. Thank you for everything!!
I’ve bought several fallkniven products and every one has been perfect. Either you are lying or you are ignorant for not even TRYING to make contact fallkniven or blade hq to see what your options were.
Well, I think you simply had bad luck with this one. It seems this blade has a wrong heat treatment and other problems that ends up with what you complaining about. Why do you damn Fallkniven knives in general, only why received one bad one. Compare yours to all the other reviews and send it to Fallkniven to either get it fixed or replaced. If you are to lazy you should not complain this way. By the way, the rattle is the price to pay for a better performance in winter with snow and ice. The its a result of another feature. I understand you're pissed by this particular blade ... but hey you received it for free right? So why howl like an infant, sell it or change it. Or are we talking about a clickbait video? 😁
This only explains the bad grind. All of the other issues are design flaws. A friend had a CoS Fallkniven which was chipping when chopping small sticks, Fallkniven told him this was gross misuse of the blade was it was designed for "precision cutting tasks" even though they clearly market the X series as "hard use". Fallkniven customer service is an absolute joke. The reason so many reviews are very positive online is because people are trying to justify their bad purchase because they just spent a lot of money on it and want to feel good about themselves. Additionally people like yourself will leave negative comments on the reviews because they're blinded by their own opinion rather than the facts laid out before them.
@@stroppystuff641 True, it just explains the bad grind. I wouldn't say "design flaws" as these are actually intentional features. Except for the guard, which is somehow too sharp when delivered. I'm with you, but you can change it yourself if the outlier in your knife's blade quality is worth it. Probably, and I've never heard or experienced it, if chipping would occur, sharpening once or twice should stop it. Well, blade designers must always be careful when making recommendations regarding usage. This is clearly a legal issue. For some more, for others less. And there are still too many people who actually, for whatever reason, totally abuse their knives. But I agree that European Fallkniven customer service is not US Esee customer service. On the other hand, there are also good experiences. "The reason so many reviews online are very positive is because people are trying to justify their bad buy because they just spent a lot of money on it and want to feel good." I really doubt this for at least 90% of professional or advanced users or TH-camrs. Otherwise they would name it just send their knives back. To be honest, I thought about that too, as one of my S1X blades came out unusually dull. But once sharpened, it performs very well as expected, so I'll keep it of course. Anyway I'm still undecided if I like the Pro series more, especially in cold conditions. (And that, by the way, is the climate for which all Fallkniven knives and their sheaths have been developed). "Also, people like you leave negative comments on the reviews because they are more blinded by their own opinion than by the facts presented in front of them." Well I've been collecting, using and comparing knives since I was a kid. So I've been dealing with it for a very, very long time. I have countless blades to compare and in the end Fallkniven is one of my top brands even though I know they are a bit overpriced. But that's the case with others too. Well, in the end the first F1, S1, A1 or A2 versions are cheaper and actually everything you need anyway.
I have an F1x in Elmax, and I agree with @StroppyStuff that it's a piece of crap, with the exception of the steel blade. In fact I am refurbishing it to keep the blade only, which is good in my case, and I will replace the sheath and the scales which I will custom made them.
@@stroppystuff641 the QC surely has got nothing to do with the blade stock. The A, S, Fx series, as far as I am aware from online reviews and documentation are meant to be very capable all round, survival knives, hence the very hefty blade stock. I have most recently used a F1x for a while, and one of the must appreciated features is the blade stock, for batoning. I don’t want to bring an axe, therefore I have bought Fällkniven models that cater to that need. From what you mention it seems like you have had a poor quality example. You mention that you have been very happy with your A1(1:43 minutes in). Then it seems weird you comment that Fällkniven specialise in “lemons”(0:48 minutes in).
@@elnifflarsen wow batonning with the f1x? That's not covered by their warranty. You're only supposed to cut salami and whittle figures with it, if fällkniven customer support is to be believed.
@@elnifflarsen 1. You don't need a thick blade to baton. 2. Fallkniven specifically say their blades are for precision cutting tasks only and I can show you the email from them starting this if you like, a friend used theirs to chop small branches and it chipped the blade. Fallkniven stated this was abuse and should be used for cutting only. 3. I loved the A1 10 years ago when there was much less competition on the market. They've stagnated and are now bottom of the barrel at best. 4. Nobody is stopping you from enjoying your f1x just because I don't like them.
@@elnifflarsen Fällkniven's marketing is completely two faced in this regard. They market the x series as survival knives, then they go back on it (in the same text) and say it's not meant for hard use
Ha, just got a second s1x and has a dastardly grind gouge near where your grind mark is, but it's worse cuz it runs over to the edge, distorting the actual edge. I contacted Fallkniven and they said it met their factory qc specs and that I shouldn't want a knife that looks like it belongs in a glass cabinet, seriously! I simply wanted a knife with the most basic geometry correct, like flat sides with no grind gouges messing up the edge. They sarcastically messaged "sorry that our best knife does not meet your standards" and offered no recourse or exchange. Piss on them, I'll never buy another and will spread the good word about them! Both were so dull out of the box, they could barely cut copy paper longways.
Unfortunately this is really common but so many die hard Fallkniven fan boys just don't believe it. There are plenty of comments on this video saying that I'm a liar 😂. Sorry to hear you got a bad knife man, try a TRC they're miles better.
Really harsh review when it's only an outliar. You didn't get it new from Fallkniven, so you can't claim this was sent out this way and is their fault... it's just as likely a return, a cheap knockoff, or you or someone else didn't know how to sharpen the convex CoS steel, and meesed it up. I'm not going to judge a whole company off of some random review with no proof to back up their claims. I can only go off my own observations and tests and so far flawless products each and every one of them, certainly not my best blades but still incredible quality. And your reasoning is flawed they make this knife for a set of variables needed by the military, they make it thick, rough grip, space in the sheath so it doesn't slip/freeze up in harsh climates/conditions... Not for light use in someone's garden with soft lotioned hands. It's hypocritical of you to claim it's not fit for your purpose, when you're the one not using it for what it's designed to do and in the conditions it's made to function in. And the TRC is a gimmick blade to show off with. They're too expensive for the materials used and basic lazy copy-paste design and finish, fantastic quality, but wouldn't be my first choice for any tasks.
@Bushcrafty Ste It may be, but looking at the amount of complains I'm seeing on the quality control and worst, the fallkniven support and guarantee to the problems related to it. They can be good knifes but I just don't believe they worth the money you pay for them.
Szia ezeket a pengéket gép köszörüli. nem emberi kéz. A képen amit látok szándékosan emberi kézzel lett csinálva. Te vagy, valaki más akitől kaptad. A gyárból így nem jöhet ki.
Yeah unfortunately I think there are a lot better knives available for the money in 2022. It especially leaves a bad taste in my mouth that the Fallkniven customer service is not very understanding or knowledgeable. 10ish years ago there was a lot less competition and I think they've been living off their past reputation.
So you had a faulty knife. Boohoo. It happens, quite frankly really rarely with Fallkniven, but if you''re a Bark River customer, you must be used to it. Moreover, if you had two functioning hands, you could've just resharpened it a little bit and boom, problem solved. But you chose to take hours of your time to film, edit and post a video of you crying about it. And you didn't even try to contact their customer service, which would have exchanged the knife for free without discussion (happened to me). God sometimes I hate TH-cam for allowing this king of behaviour to have a space to communicate.
4:00 yeah well... a lot of what you are saying is impossible to check for us, like working on light wood etc. So we just have to take your word for it. But complaining about thickness? First of all ... rather childish, second of all.... who is to blame for that fact? You right? Just a little tip for your next knife. Check the specs before buying. There. Great tip. For free. No thanks needed, you are very welcome.
@@stroppystuff641 You ruin the convex grind with a coarse grit Atoma stone and then bitch about how it looks and cuts? Who’s the clown? I skinned and quartered more deer and hogs than I can remember with my Fallknivens and know how well they perform WHEN PROPERLY SHARPENED. Have I ever screwed up a knife sharpening Hell yes! I learned from my mistakes and wasn’t fool enough to make a you-tube video about how it was a bad knife when I screwed up……
Every time I am about to buy one I come back to your video!
Thanks mate!
🤣 I've been stung too many times by manufacturers who just don't care about their customers. I've totally given up with Falkniven especially and I'm glad I've managed to at least stop one person making a bad decision. Go and get a custom from ZlKnives or Savchenko on Instagram. Awesome dudes, making amazing knives for very very affordable prices. Cheaper than Fallkniven.
@@stroppystuff641 The sad thing is: Once a company beomes large enough and the finance guys take over price is ofter decoupled from cost and quality and is based solely on the market.
So marketing is working on the brand instead of the product.
Next step is cutting costs and that means lower quality for higher prices.
It's a shame really.
🤣 yeah i had some troubles with uneven convexes as well but in my case they were mostly sharpened out quite easily with a 400 stone.
I'm more surprised about the edge retention in your test though
It's possible there was some grit or sand on the wood I was cutting which caused the roll but I doubt it. The edge retention generally seems okay on it, I just really dislike the design. I'm going to make new scales and round off the pommel area and put it in a new sheath. That should fix all my issues :)
@@stroppystuff641 as you know I really like fallkniven but I do think the S1 is a bit of a miss. I don't have a single one. It's either too big or too short. I like the A1 F1 combo a lot more. As for the X series I think it's made for the fans. I don't dislike it but I think it kinda goes against the intent of fallkniven knives being cold resistant knives that are grippy for gloves it doesn't make much sense to keep the same handle scales yet expose the tang. Anyway, I think it's great to hear your view on this in the video
@@DutchBushcraftKnives Thanks man I appreciate the feedback :) Maybe I'll get a F1 Pro in Elmax in the future.
@@stroppystuff641 Are you related to Survival Lilly? Twins?
The rattling from the sheath is because of the knife being loose inside. And, it's Intentional. Here in Laponia we get low as -40-50c degrees and then be sure it will stuck inside of it, so you know. It was made with the help of soldiers and hunters who are experineced in Arctic climates. Most Sami knives, like the Leuku, also sits ä little loose where the steel meet the sheath. Hope it became clearer now. Be safe with knives
After living in the tropics for several years I got rid of everything (except my Buck 110FG and Vanguard - my hunting knives) and replaced everything with a PC, F1 and A1. Especially leather suffers badly in humid tropical areas and just had to be replaced. Very happy with my Fällkniven combo. The little PC sits in a belt pouch, the F1 is my EDC fixed blade which I swap out for the A1 in the countryside when it might be needed.
i think in situations where someone's carrying a fixed blade on their person, you've got to expect that the knife might be pressed into some laborious, repetitive and overall "hard" tasks in less-than-ideal conditions. i can see how the handle on that fallkniven could leave the user with burning blistered hands in those sorta use cases. i've seen a bit of a trend of late for knife tangs extending proud of handle scales, and i think it can eff right off. it's as if market research indicated that "full tang" construction helps sell blades, and some manufacturers thought "okay! we're gonna make something _even tangy-er_ ".
Not sure if this was brought up, I am wondering if DLT, or whoever delivered the knife, sent one to you that was sent back after previous owner had it and did damage on it? Did you ever contact DLT about this ?
Yeah, I’ve never seen a new knife, much less a Fallkniven look like this when new. No way
3:39 "I don't know if they have children working in their factory, certainly looks like it"
Sums me up nicely
Lmao
I don't find the X series to be as bad as you say. I have very rough hands, so the spine to scale transition doesn't bother me at all. As far as the thickness goes, I prefer a beefier blade, lends a bit of confidence during hard use. For those that don't use their hands every day, I guess the comfort value of this series of knives is an issue.
“Don’t buy one and if you already do have one, throw it out.”😂
Haha 😂 I'm glad this mess of a knife can at least bring some laughs 😀
I have the F1X Elmax. Don’t have any of the issues you mention here. Blade absolutely perfect, shaving hair out of the box. Sheath fits tight. Feels great in the hand. LOVE the thick blade/tang. My complaint is that the back edge of the blade isn’t sharp enough for sparking ferro rod effectively. Awesome knife.
I found your review unnecessarily scathing. Loses credibility when it’s an unconstructive rant rather than a more matter of fact side by side comparison.
One-sided maybe. Lost credibility? Not at all.
Sorry but you slightly overshoot. I perfectly understand your anger about the blade, that is an absolute no go, should never happen and questions seriously FKs quality control. You must send it back and hopefully get a discount together with a brand new knife. As for the rest of your review you get carried away by your anger. The thickness makes the knife a batoning champion and used as survival knife, saves a hatchet. The sheath features two perfect blocking mechanisms and is designed for subzero environments. The rattling is a consequence of grantig the necessary space with makes sure the blade never block-freezes in the sheath. Your TRC will never be accepted with that sheath for military use around the polar circle. Etc, etc,. Bottom line: your complain is more than valid but the knife is big stuff if delivered as should. Cheers, Max
I read that the handle was designed this way so it could be used comfortably with gloves.
Many thanks for that warning, you just saved me 300 EUR.
I am glad I didn't have your experience. I got the S1x and the A1x a few months ago and have not had a chance to use it. But after holding it for periods at a time and stroping constantly because I am chomping at the bits to get out and use it, I find it weighty but comfortable. I plan to wear buckskin gloves when ever I use it so the grippy scales works great, even still holding it bare hand is comfortable though I haven't choppped anything yet. I find the sheath passable but very noisy if the locking bar is not applied, mine does not rattle when locked. I don't buy their excuse regarding the freezing temperature may cause your knives to become stuck. I have never had that experience with any knives in the winter of north America. All in all a great knife with a perfect convex grind. I am surprised that your knife had that crazy edge problem. I would send it back, period! No need to deal with such an expensive knife and hating it. I have had issues with the Bark River knives initial quality with their factory convex edges being wavy and uneven. I had to reprofile my brand new Aurora completely. Hopefully as time progress you would appreciate it more if you hold on to it.
Hey Sam! I understand where you're coming from with some of this although I don't necessarily agree with all of it. For example the handles being comfortable with gloves, it's very possible to make the handle comfortable with and without gloves, but Fallkniven always pull the "cold weather" card on us as an excuse. Just because it works well with gloves doesn't mean you should neglect the gloveless usability, especially when handle shape is key for grip rather than handle material. I do plan on keeping it, I'm going to make some micarta scales and flush fit them to the tang so that it's all nice and comfortable to use for long periods as a bushcrafter :)
Changing the scales should make the S1X more comfortable to hold. I hope you were able to rectify the uneven edge problem. I can't believe fallkniven let such a product out of their factory, and I thought Bark River had quality issues. I believe you also weren't thrilled with the thickness of the blade at 6mm. I have to admit that I am also amazed how a knife at just over 5" can be so beefy. But it works. The X series with its very thick blades also comes as probably the sharpest knives out of the box. I like the heft for clearing small branches from a piece of wood for poles or walking sticks. The closest knife to the S1X is my Coldsteel SRK in San Mai, and I believe the Fallkniven is superior. Though not always because I believe the coldsteel master hunter is superior to the F1X. These knives are just as personal to each user as a pair of shoes. Any I enjoy would probably not be useful or beneficial to another person. Luckily there are so many choices. Good luck with your modification! I hope it works out for you.
Very strange because i have many knife from fallkniven and i never had any problem. And i am very very picky.
It also depends on what you do with it.
Like I am very anal about my mirror polishes, especially on my NL5, and the NL5 had 2 dips in the 420j2 lamination that took about 12-16 hours of hand work to get out (RIP skerper 180).
Yeah, if you don't do something like that you won't get to notice that (just assuming you don't).
Glad you have no problems though
Jake, just out of curiosity… what is the practical result of mirror finishes? I can understand it looks nice.
@@elnifflarsen increasing the surface area so it's needs more time to rust and oxidize the surface.
The knife had some spots 2 days after I got it😅
If you still have it are you interested in selling it? Thanks much
I have a Fallkniven F1x (so not the same model, obviously) but the fit and finish seems much better than your S1x. My blade is perfect and the knife fits the sheath well (very secure and no rattling when locked in place). My handle seems better finished too - not the same sharp edges you describe. I wonder - did you check the HiddenTag code to be sure it's not a knock-off?
It was sent to the DBK boys direct from bladeHq. I didn't check to see if it was legit but I can't imagine it's a fake
@@stroppystuff641 I also bought one of the S1x knives and it is perfect. The HiddenTag checked out, so it's legit. My sheath also had rough edges on the webbing cuts (took me a couple of minutes to smooth it off), but otherwise the fit and finish is excellent and the knife fits snugly into the sheath. My blade is perfect - and extremely sharp out of the box. Rather than showing your blade after you had worked on it, I think it would have been fairer to show the blade brand new, and tested the blade without messing with it. So, given my positive experience with the S1x and the F1x (admittedly a very small sample size), I think your review is rather unfair on Fallkniven as a company.
looks like you got a second hand blade there
I had the same issue with the factory edge using it out of the box to make a fire drill; multiple micro chips on relatively soft wood. After my own restoration of the convex edge, this no longer occurred. I’m hearing this a lot from Falkniven owners so seems more the factory bevel. I agree with you on the “sharp angles” on handle. Ironically I felt their sheath modification was great in its simplicity but they worked out one problem and created another:
- thermorin scales : soft thus TOO thin in 2 months of non heavy use they peaked off from the points where they were fastened by screws; less than 1mm thermerin held by screw. I actually emailed Peter as to what I thought a great marketing idea of multiple replacement scales; since they are detachable one could “dress up “ one’s knife like multiple ties for one suit. Also maybe micarda??? No plans for that was the response nor are there ANY after market people making generic replacements that one can have shipped. Leading back to:
- even if there were it would negate the modified sheath as the opening and quite imaginative fastening lock that really WILL support the knife upside down can’t accommodate anything other than the thin thermorin handles
- I even get the concept of the scales not flush with the handle back if one is batonning this protects the delicate thermorin but exposes the hand
- they FINALLY FIXED the lanyard hole. Put it at the end point of the handle which was a bitch on their snapping retainer sheaths as the retainer covered the hole negating ability to attach lanyard as well as impossible to easily re- stow with gloves on. But irony again - they didn’t need to move lanyard hole as the new sheath requires no snap retainer.
- again I liked the new sheath but given I went through 3 sets of replacement scales I eventually hand wrapped the handle which made the new sheath I LOVED obsolete
- the back of handle? The only application over a flat extended pummel is what “glass breaking”? Or more realistically combat skull crusher - it tends to lose the hammer function way more applicable on a regular basis than a EMT “car rescue”
To conclude with my humble recommendations as an owner and lover of more than 10 Falkniven knives:
1) keep the true full tang and replacement handle possibility. Sell from factory with thicker micarta handle.
2) keep same excellent sheath design but obviously widen the opening to accommodate the thicker handle. ( personal note I am not a kydex fan. Kydex does not handle temperature change especially cold well. Good old fashioned plastic does. I believe Falkniven once came to a similar conclusion having tried kydex)
3) offer choices of scales. This allows one to keep an extra pair on them should an accident in the field occur or more likely to dress up that old suit with a new tie instead of buying a 100 new suits for each affair. We are not all girls yet.
4) go back to flat pummel. When I say “hammer “ none of Falkniven handles were ever good for hammering but if hammering the knife into a stump to more expeditiously sharpen tent stakes, spears ( as from my journey on TH-cam not “being girls”= thinking oneself a navy seal/neanderthal/warrior) a flat pummel is better and if one must still crush the occasional skull of the other tribesman stalking you through the forest.
Thickness tends to be subjective as to what one wants to use a knife for. I do agree that this level of thickness ( equal to the A2 which I also own and is of acceptable chopping length) diminishes practicality as the knife for more utilitarian use. I’ve never had the original S1 or F1 snap and the worked out the reinforced point and shortening of swedge to pass a Survival Lilly test. Again why thicken a blade that size and reduce more common cutting camp chores? Combat again? This knife will go through a car hood but again how often do we need to do that? I do personally like the added weight of it in my hand but that’s just me. For me there are more goods than bads, the S1x works for me with my own modifications that sadly lead me to saying goodbye to a sheath I actually found innovative. It seems Falkniven will flatten one tire to reinvent new wheels
Some really solid points👍. I eventually made some micarta scales for myself actually and it greatly improved the knife, I posted a video about it after I posted this one. I've seen lots of reports of fallkniven blades chipping and it's likely due to them burning the edges while grinding. One of the guys from the DBK discord got really badly treated by the Fallkniven customer service too, they said the X series wasn't suitable for chopping and he was abusing the knife 🤣
More irony as these are for the most part Japanese blades with convex grinds, Japanese makers tending to emphasize whetstones. Machine grinding for traditional Japanese makers is almost like putting ketchup on your filet mignon in a five-star restaurant. If you are ever interested in selling any scales hit me up. I have an S1x as well.
Also did you notice HOW Falkniven now says not for chopping in their marketing? Further irony when they “thickened” the knife for what if not chopping or batonning?
I liked you being honest. I instead chose to buy an EKA w12 Nordic, It's much better for in handle, sheath, steal and also price. Thank you
@@Fire_I_ thank you for the feedback! I hope you enjoy your new knife 🫡
@@stroppystuff641 I like the EKA Nordic in most aspects. It has better cutting than for example the Mora Garberg, although being thicker than the Garberg. Also looks drop dead gourgeous in the handle, which, with the "thumb guard", is made for carving both towards and away from the you. One minus is it has not a true scandi grind, but a micro grind and it's bcs to prevent from chipping, my guess is. One can instead self grind a "Scandivex", I've heard. The newer model comes with a leather sheath, but i'm ordering an older Kydex version which comes with a sharpener and fire steal on it, as spare part. At least I'm considering to do so. BTW fällkniven is very overpriced in some of their stuff. Keep the contents up. You have much to consider coming to Swedish knoves, but seem to now "the ultimate tool/weapon" - the holy knife. Cheers man!
Shame about the performance but i do like the looks of the knife, what will you do with it?
I'll probably make some micarta scales and round the pommel section.
Could you please tell us what kind of knives you do recommend as survival knives??
I think it largely comes down to personal preference and what you intend to do with it. IMO one of the closest production knives is probably the TRC Apocalypse but it's very expensive.
@@stroppystuff641 Thanks. Shame Fallkniven are so overpriced And better knives are even more expensive.
@@severinseverin268 yes unfortunately TRC are mega expensive but lots of customs are quite affordable! If checkout ZLKNIVES (Instagram or his website). He makes all sorts of awesome designs. His "workhorse" model is a Bushcrafter design, you can get it in 4v for around €270. He's a great guy too.
Of course there is also Dulo, around €220-240 but very long wait times.
Maybe after the Russia/Ukraine war is over Lamnia will have restocked on their OwlKnives. They're really excellent and very affordable
@@stroppystuff641 Thanks a lot for this. I know nothing at all about customs, so this is really useful. Cheers.
There is NO way that blade came straight from factory - that thing has been hacked by someone who didn't have a clue. If my blade came in that poor condition, there would be NO hestitation it would be sent right back from where it came. Even a fake would have better quality than that - and you say you couldn't be bothered to send it back. ummmmm
Yes I agree. Strange. Fällkniven my opinion has a strong quality inspection of their knives.
My Fällkniven Taiga TF2 was in 100 % perfect condition. The blade, the grinding and shape of the blade was better than my Bark Rivers.
What I did not like about it that the sheath dulls the edge. Even gently puttning the knife in to the sheath dulls the edge.
Agree, I’d send that back in a heartbeat. Recently received the F1X Elmax, and the fit and finish is the best I’ve ever seen and the sharpest out-of-the-box edge I’ve bought.
The only complaint I can agree with this review is the sharp finger guard.
I used a round ceramic honing rod and polished it. It doesn’t show, but an almost microscopic rounding did the trick.
Lovely knife.
I don't know about your tests (you didn't present them), but you keep mentioning the prices, and I can buy an S1X with less than 200€, but I can't find anywhere a South Pole for less than 340€. It's a battle of a better steel vs better grind. Without some hard foam in the tip of the sheath, most knives are rattling. Thickness and weight - you could have chosen the S1 Classic - 100g lighter. That's why I've sold mine - not choppy enough. The S1x seems pretty customizable, so the lack of roundness finish, or the thickness of the scales, don't seem such a big problem. But if you paid over 300€, I can understand your views. Thanks for the video.
In the UK the S1x is £270 and the south pole could be had for under £300. So there isn't much difference in the price for us. Seems like we have vastly different retail prices available to us 👍
Strange that the QC on your knife was done so poorly. I have had none of the problems you've had. For the the S1X completes it's role as a easy to sharpen knife quite well, i do not use it as a substitute for an axe. Which i guess is something people are doing with loads of different knives. I do baton logs when they're cut to make "inner sticks" for fethering and so on. I've had it out for extended periods of time, and having worked in the industrial sector for some years my hands really aren't bothered by either the coldness or the grip feel.
Also there i do not have the issues you're facing. The transition between the tang and the scales is near flawless. Barely noticeable, and a quick "flat polish" on the sides reviled no "spot shininess" which would indicate a uneven surface the same way it will on a car body etc etc. I've not managed to roll the edge so severely that a quick stropping has not fixed it, even using it on hardwood.
I guess the absolutely atrocious part of Fallkniven is how they managed to let that knife through production and in to customer hands. Seeing this video almost makes me wish i could refund mine. To make them finally take the playing field seriously. It seems, they're comfortable with their brand name and have started getting lazy, which sadly is common for every industry.
For my experience the convex have similar problem equal to Bark River exc... And the sheats of Fallk... cost 10 euro ... Not a fan to Fallkniven...
Try putting a secondary bevel on it?
i have a regular F1 but in leather sheath. Maybe it was an old production line with leather sheaths. I ordered one from eBay a few years ago, it was opened but not used, and I think the owner had it for a couple of years too. Still performing okay till this day.
Yeah my original vg10 A1 is still going strong too 👍
Never liked the overpriced Fallkniven stuff. I had the original F1 and even that was overly thick in with again overly thick convex grinds. As you experienced, I also get quite a few of chips and rolls after few minutes light use. Which made me totally loose my faith on VG10. I do not think they got the heat right on their knives and this is surprising as they have been made in Japan. Japanese usually know how to heat treat, especially if its their own steel.
the second you showed the first picture of that knife i immediately knew that that blade was VERY OBVIOUSLY a knife someone destroyed trying to sharpen and then made a return on. the fact you didn’t immediately figure that out and instead blamed fallkniven for that and then proceeded to go on a totally non constructive rant crying as if this knife (that again was very clearly destroyed by another person and didn’t leave the factory that way) was intentionally made badly and then sent to you specifically as some kind of personal attack. you also said you ‘couldn’t be bothered to send it back’ ??? you got a secondhand knife that some novice ruined, blamed fallkniven for something another person did, didn’t even send it back to the dealer for a replacement and yet you think the problem is fallkniven lmfao? also those rolls in the edge you complained about are 100% a failure of your sharpening of the knife not the knife itself. you could’ve made the edge much too thin, or not properly debuted it. this video is just beyond stupid.
@@acid6urns 🤡
@@stroppystuff641yeah no response because logic hurts huh? your fault you were too damn lazy to send what was clearly a secondhand blade back to bladehq if it was truly as fucked up as you claim when you got it.
Nothing beats TRC in workmanship
Especially from the large scale production world! TRC knives are incredible
I think it's so thick because your modern knife buyer these days wants an overbuilt semi-sharp pry bar to whack through logs for youtube videos, and not much else.
Gimme a thin slicy knife and an axe any day.
I have a similar knife and I am very satisfied. I don't have the problems you describe at all and I use it heavily. Are you sure it's not a fake copy? Very strange!
I'm not sure, all I can say is that it came from DBK
Well it sure looks like you got a bad one. Well explained points. I like Fällkniven and was looking forward to an upgrade for the F1 and S1 from 2011 since they are still wonderful knives, but perhaps outdated by now…. That handle comfort is very important! they should round them off a bit and check their QC. I can’t believe they are all so bad. Probably find it out for myself in the future, hahahaha. Cheers (and my liking for Fällkniven comes from the experiences with the F1 and S1) I hope people don’t get wacko because of your experience
I think you're going to find out that it's exactly the same as mine but with a potentially better or maybe worse grind on it 😂. All the other ones I've look at have these same issues as they're very poor design aspects rather than "faults". In assuming you're up to date with the issue Nils had with his Fallkniven? His blade was chipping out constantly and Fallkniven told him that chopping small sticks was gross misuse of the knife and that it was designed for precision cutting tasks. In what world is a 6 mm thick blade suitable for precision cutting tasks? Fallkniven customer service sucks, their design sucks, their manufacturing sucks and their quality control sucks 😂
@@stroppystuff641 hahahaha I see.
@@bbkdmprops just make a visit to me, grinding the shit out of that fucking 420j2
That’s so interesting
, I really wanted to buy one of these now I’m thinking maybe not.
Stay safe ATB Del
Check out my other video where I made a new handle for it. It solves lots of problems but it's still too thick 😂
@@stroppystuff641 just catching up with your vids now ! 👍🔥
I've handled three Fallknivens and every one had serious QC issues. I would never buy one sight unseen. It's mind boggling that they get away with these failures in their price bracket.
You should have sent it back.
Something aint right. He was given some left over knife someone messed up. Not buying they send knives out like that being sold, way too many knives from one of the best production knife companies on the planet. The S1x I have is outstanding and little beats the steel used in that knife on the balance.
Sadly it is a retail unit from blade HQ 😅.
So it is a legitimate sample that was ready for sale.
@@jakehu6671that’s what the poster SAID. but this knife very clearly was fucked up by someone that wasn’t fallkniven. so either bladehq mistakenly sent him a return, in which case it’s on him for not contacting them and sending it back for a replacement, or he bought it from somewhere else
Damn that is a shame I was really interested in this knife design, looks, steel, etc. I just done get why they would have the edges unrounded, of course I could easily fix the sharp finger guard and pommel but at that price point I shouldn't have to. I also don't understand they wouldn't just make the scales flush with the tang its so easy to yet they don't ?? And the quality control is concerning as well,
I purchased one of their slip joints a while back that had some qc issues main one being a crushed washer that made the blade pretty stiff to open.
"The best knives in the world!"
Oh well anyone got some recommendations on their other models? alot of people seem to like the F1 was kinda interested In the f1x or the normal f1 in cos
If you won that, it's probably Chinese made 😂
Mine was perfect and the steel holds up to months of heavy use with just routine touching up and stropping.
Unless knives are ground wet then every edge on every knife by every company is burnt, to what degree depends on many factors; too many to list here.
To grind a blade without coolant running over the blade and belt takes an _extremely_ long time as it’s one light pass, water dunk, one light pass, water dunk, etc, etc.
I know of less than a handful of knife makers worldwide (Japan being the exception where they use Waterstone wheels a lot) that grind wet to avoid burnt edges, brittle edges, and many sharpenings on the customers part to get to stable steel.
The knife industry is a bad joke.
The problem is that these companies cut corners to keep up with demand and in the process, they lose all or most of the things that made them so desirable in the first place.
You must be talking about Bark River, right?
I believe the reason the knife was made that thick is for prying. I read that Swede fighter pilots are issued this knife. There’s no doubt in my mind that this knife was made to be a survival knife, not so much a bushcraft knife. I’ve never seen it perform any task exceptional well.
With that being said, I don’t even own a single knife from Fallkniven. I can’t bring myself to spend that much money on a mediocre performing knife that comes with an ugly sheath. I even saw Joe X destroy it easily, which is expected; most knives will break/fail when abused, I just didn’t expect the Fallkniven to fail that quickly for a knife at its price point. I know 1095 is cheap steel, but I love Esee’s knives in the way they perform and their “No questions asked” warranty.
I think the pilot knife is the F1 and not the X series. Good call on staying away from the brand 😂 much better value for money elsewhere
I would like to have seen the blade before your "efforts".
It honestly looks like you messed it up yourself.
Understandable that you don't trust me and I've got no problem with that. But I'm hardly an inexperienced sharpener. To be honest I think it's pretty evident from the pictures that it's obvious I couldn't have made that wavy grind on my stones because for a start you could see the grind lines from the belts on it. But I appreciate your feedback and if I come across something like this in the future I'll show the before photos too.
I bought the A1X.. no issues.
"dont know if they got children working on their grinders" 🤣 great and sad review at the same time bro
Haha! Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it
@@stroppystuff641 havent talked to you in a long time mate hope everything is goin well and youre doin good certainly seems like it
@@Marc43666 I'm doing well thanks, same old shit, different day. How have you been?
@@stroppystuff641 good to hear for me it isnt much different either all my final exams r done soon tmrw is english exam gonna enjoy the time soon when theres no more school related shit to worry about for some months haha😆then i will have more time for bushcraft again allready sharpened some of the my blades #stroppystuff
Please.where can I get the knife at 7:08 ? MBK Field tracker I think you named it?
montereybayknives.com the MBK Field Trekker
@@stroppystuff641 Thanks man! Don;'t listen to all those materialistic worshipers, what you said about the S1X was true and you did a really good video, presenting the flaws. Thank you for everything!!
@@greekveteran2715 no problem man! Thanks for the support ❤️
Translation: "I couldn't sharpen this knife and ruined the edge so it a piece of $4!7"
Yup, if there is one thing I can't do, it's sharpen! 🤡
Seems like you did the damage yourself and are trying to get a replacement from Fallkniven.
If I was trying to get a replacement I'd probably have contacted Fallkniven don't you think?
He wouldn't get any replacement. Fallkniven are not stupid to be giving away free knives to dishonest fools.
@@LXT43 🤣
i cant lie man doesnt seem like them to oversee something like that. sure you didnt do that lol
it's a crap knife... thanks for keeping it real.
It’s a convex grind man not a scandi grind…..what the hell did you do to sharpen that knife did you use a pineapple
How are you gonna be mad at the manufacturer for you messing up the convex grind. Completely mental.
You must have paid very close attention to the video, great work buddy
@@stroppystuff641 I did actually, all I learned was you're just a scrub pretending to know anything so people will like you. Truly pathetic. Good bye
You are hating, not being constructive
I have fallkniven a1xb and is very good
I’ve bought several fallkniven products and every one has been perfect. Either you are lying or you are ignorant for not even TRYING to make contact fallkniven or blade hq to see what your options were.
Clearly I'm lying, I profit greatly from it.
My point remains valid
Well, I think you simply had bad luck with this one. It seems this blade has a wrong heat treatment and other problems that ends up with what you complaining about.
Why do you damn Fallkniven knives in general, only why received one bad one. Compare yours to all the other reviews and send it to Fallkniven to either get it fixed or replaced. If you are to lazy you should not complain this way.
By the way, the rattle is the price to pay for a better performance in winter with snow and ice.
The its a result of another feature.
I understand you're pissed by this particular blade ... but hey you received it for free right?
So why howl like an infant, sell it or change it.
Or are we talking about a clickbait video? 😁
This only explains the bad grind. All of the other issues are design flaws. A friend had a CoS Fallkniven which was chipping when chopping small sticks, Fallkniven told him this was gross misuse of the blade was it was designed for "precision cutting tasks" even though they clearly market the X series as "hard use". Fallkniven customer service is an absolute joke.
The reason so many reviews are very positive online is because people are trying to justify their bad purchase because they just spent a lot of money on it and want to feel good about themselves. Additionally people like yourself will leave negative comments on the reviews because they're blinded by their own opinion rather than the facts laid out before them.
@@stroppystuff641 True, it just explains the bad grind.
I wouldn't say "design flaws" as these are actually intentional features. Except for the guard, which is somehow too sharp when delivered. I'm with you, but you can change it yourself if the outlier in your knife's blade quality is worth it. Probably, and I've never heard or experienced it, if chipping would occur, sharpening once or twice should stop it.
Well, blade designers must always be careful when making recommendations regarding usage. This is clearly a legal issue. For some more, for others less.
And there are still too many people who actually, for whatever reason, totally abuse their knives.
But I agree that European Fallkniven customer service is not US Esee customer service. On the other hand, there are also good experiences.
"The reason so many reviews online are very positive is because people are trying to justify their bad buy because they just spent a lot of money on it and want to feel good."
I really doubt this for at least 90% of professional or advanced users or TH-camrs. Otherwise they would name it just send their knives back.
To be honest, I thought about that too, as one of my S1X blades came out unusually dull. But once sharpened, it performs very well as expected, so I'll keep it of course.
Anyway I'm still undecided if I like the Pro series more, especially in cold conditions. (And that, by the way, is the climate for which all Fallkniven knives and their sheaths have been developed).
"Also, people like you leave negative comments on the reviews because they are more blinded by their own opinion than by the facts presented in front of them."
Well I've been collecting, using and comparing knives since I was a kid. So I've been dealing with it for a very, very long time. I have countless blades to compare and in the end Fallkniven is one of my top brands even though I know they are a bit overpriced. But that's the case with others too.
Well, in the end the first F1, S1, A1 or A2 versions are cheaper and actually everything you need anyway.
Knives that are made in Japan maintain lots of standard. They won't be of this condition. U think the QC teams are sleeping lol.
I have an F1x in Elmax, and I agree with @StroppyStuff that it's a piece of crap, with the exception of the steel blade. In fact I am refurbishing it to keep the blade only, which is good in my case, and I will replace the sheath and the scales which I will custom made them.
A1x..S1x.military,survival,knives ,laminated steel ,idestructible .
Didn’t you know the specs before you bought it?
As I mentioned in the video I won it from the DBK royal knife club. I didn't purchase it.also the specs don't mention the horrible quality control 😂
@@stroppystuff641 the QC surely has got nothing to do with the blade stock.
The A, S, Fx series, as far as I am aware from online reviews and documentation are meant to be very capable all round, survival knives, hence the very hefty blade stock.
I have most recently used a F1x for a while, and one of the must appreciated features is the blade stock, for batoning. I don’t want to bring an axe, therefore I have bought Fällkniven models that cater to that need.
From what you mention it seems like you have had a poor quality example.
You mention that you have been very happy with your A1(1:43 minutes in). Then it seems weird you comment that Fällkniven specialise in “lemons”(0:48 minutes in).
@@elnifflarsen wow batonning with the f1x? That's not covered by their warranty. You're only supposed to cut salami and whittle figures with it, if fällkniven customer support is to be believed.
@@elnifflarsen 1. You don't need a thick blade to baton.
2. Fallkniven specifically say their blades are for precision cutting tasks only and I can show you the email from them starting this if you like, a friend used theirs to chop small branches and it chipped the blade. Fallkniven stated this was abuse and should be used for cutting only.
3. I loved the A1 10 years ago when there was much less competition on the market. They've stagnated and are now bottom of the barrel at best.
4. Nobody is stopping you from enjoying your f1x just because I don't like them.
@@elnifflarsen Fällkniven's marketing is completely two faced in this regard. They market the x series as survival knives, then they go back on it (in the same text) and say it's not meant for hard use
Ha, just got a second s1x and has a dastardly grind gouge near where your grind mark is, but it's worse cuz it runs over to the edge, distorting the actual edge. I contacted Fallkniven and they said it met their factory qc specs and that I shouldn't want a knife that looks like it belongs in a glass cabinet, seriously! I simply wanted a knife with the most basic geometry correct, like flat sides with no grind gouges messing up the edge. They sarcastically messaged "sorry that our best knife does not meet your standards" and offered no recourse or exchange. Piss on them, I'll never buy another and will spread the good word about them! Both were so dull out of the box, they could barely cut copy paper longways.
Unfortunately this is really common but so many die hard Fallkniven fan boys just don't believe it. There are plenty of comments on this video saying that I'm a liar 😂. Sorry to hear you got a bad knife man, try a TRC they're miles better.
This s really bad, would like to see a picture of your blade
Really harsh review when it's only an outliar. You didn't get it new from Fallkniven, so you can't claim this was sent out this way and is their fault... it's just as likely a return, a cheap knockoff, or you or someone else didn't know how to sharpen the convex CoS steel, and meesed it up.
I'm not going to judge a whole company off of some random review with no proof to back up their claims. I can only go off my own observations and tests and so far flawless products each and every one of them, certainly not my best blades but still incredible quality.
And your reasoning is flawed they make this knife for a set of variables needed by the military, they make it thick, rough grip, space in the sheath so it doesn't slip/freeze up in harsh climates/conditions... Not for light use in someone's garden with soft lotioned hands.
It's hypocritical of you to claim it's not fit for your purpose, when you're the one not using it for what it's designed to do and in the conditions it's made to function in.
And the TRC is a gimmick blade to show off with. They're too expensive for the materials used and basic lazy copy-paste design and finish, fantastic quality, but wouldn't be my first choice for any tasks.
Now I lost my will to buy a Fallkniven :D
If you didn't, your wallet certainly will
@Bushcrafty Ste It may be, but looking at the amount of complains I'm seeing on the quality control and worst, the fallkniven support and guarantee to the problems related to it. They can be good knifes but I just don't believe they worth the money you pay for them.
you seem to hate a lot of knives
Bad knives are worth talking about, to warn them away. Good knives don't have a lot to talk about "yeah it's good"
Your fault for not sending it back, sorry..
Lmao, sure that's why the design has flaws too
Ok you did not like it. Move on.
@@Coordinator61 if you don't like the video, move on 😊
Szia ezeket a pengéket gép köszörüli. nem emberi kéz. A képen amit látok szándékosan emberi kézzel lett csinálva. Te vagy, valaki más akitől kaptad. A gyárból így nem jöhet ki.
It's the worst knife ever just because of the thicknes. If you "need" a knife that thick you have no clue what you are doing.
Was going to by an F1 Pro in Elmax but I think I will pass now after watching this.
Yeah unfortunately I think there are a lot better knives available for the money in 2022. It especially leaves a bad taste in my mouth that the Fallkniven customer service is not very understanding or knowledgeable. 10ish years ago there was a lot less competition and I think they've been living off their past reputation.
So you had a faulty knife. Boohoo. It happens, quite frankly really rarely with Fallkniven, but if you''re a Bark River customer, you must be used to it. Moreover, if you had two functioning hands, you could've just resharpened it a little bit and boom, problem solved. But you chose to take hours of your time to film, edit and post a video of you crying about it. And you didn't even try to contact their customer service, which would have exchanged the knife for free without discussion (happened to me).
God sometimes I hate TH-cam for allowing this king of behaviour to have a space to communicate.
Took about 15 minutes to record 👍 thanks for the feedback man I appreciate it.
4:00 yeah well... a lot of what you are saying is impossible to check for us, like working on light wood etc. So we just have to take your word for it. But complaining about thickness? First of all ... rather childish, second of all.... who is to blame for that fact? You right? Just a little tip for your next knife. Check the specs before buying. There. Great tip. For free. No thanks needed, you are very welcome.
Thanks for the feedback buddy 👍 have a nice day.
@@stroppystuff641 You too mate.
Looks more like a lousy job of sharpening than a lousy knife. And a free one at that, what a jerk!
@@djpaintles 🤡
@@stroppystuff641 You ruin the convex grind with a coarse grit Atoma stone and then bitch about how it looks and cuts? Who’s the clown? I skinned and quartered more deer and hogs than I can remember with my Fallknivens and know how well they perform WHEN PROPERLY SHARPENED. Have I ever screwed up a knife sharpening Hell yes! I learned from my mistakes and wasn’t fool enough to make a you-tube video about how it was a bad knife when I screwed up……
@@djpaintles 🤡
Cry about it why don't you
Crap geometry,and this steel is not made to take abuse...these knives are made for fanboys,not real user
Agreed