Thank you so, so much for posting this video! I am in film school currently and my teacher expects us to know everything about the industry and would not explain how to do this when the page is almost 9/8ths long! You were so clear and concise this is so incredibly helpful!
Thank you so much for this practical explanation. I am currently reading a book on producing short films, and I came across the concept of scene measuring, which was a bit difficult to understand without a visual explanation. I had a proper understanding through your video
the tutorial brings up questions 1) when does one do this? Is it for a fininal draft or at te end of eery writing session? 2) why do this who it is for? 3) why is it done by hand? The scene #s and eighths could be entered directly into thew page, right?
Joe-this is a production prep thing, not a writing thing. It's only done when a film is "greenlit" and the producers prepare the script for production. This is part of the process that converts a "spec script" into a "shooting script." And no, it doesn't have to be done by hand as in the video. There is software such as Movie Magic that can import a Final Draft script and allow the process to be done on a computer.
Hey, on page three you missed a Slugline (EXT. GREENBOM, ALABAMA), was that intentional or an oversight? Thanks for the video, I sub'd 1 min in, great video.
A rule of thumb given to screenwriters is that one page is roughly a minute of screentime. The shooting team now divide that page by eight. Does filming work on units of seven and a half seconds?
7.5 seconds would be a strange unit indeed! I am not sure how or why it evolved this way, except that one-eighth of a page is roughly equal to one vertical inch on the page.
I see the same question. I will look into it. Thanks. Cinemanium Cinemanium 2 years ago The key is in the next step, transferring this information to breakdown sheets that will go to your department heads. Watch: th-cam.com/video/AMbIdTaSXrE/w-d-xo.html
I'm still not understanding how this helps the breakdown process? What is it telling us? If we already know each page is roughly 1 minute of screen time, what does this formula do? I'm asking seriously, because I'd like to teach this but I'm not sure what this formula does for the breakdown process. What i'm I missing
The key is in the next step, transferring this information to breakdown sheets that will go to your department heads. Watch: th-cam.com/video/AMbIdTaSXrE/w-d-xo.html
It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to work. If you start changing things around you are going to make people think about things they have no place thinking.
Alice Pope-Terry Producer’s and PMs breakdown a script for budgeting and scheduling purposes. ADs break a script down for scheduling purposes. And all other departments breakdown scripts as well, but use different methods that don’t necessarily require such detail.
Script breakdowns may be done by various people, such as the first assistant director, a production manager or a production coordinator. On an indie film, the producer may even do it. However, breakdowns are not done by an accountant (though an accountant may help budget the film if it's a studio production).
So you are underestimating the time needed to shoot any scene that starts in the middle of a page and overestimating all that start at the beginning, just because your ruler marks inches instead of centimeters. Good job dude, you are fired.
I believe you've misunderstood. This isn't a precision measurement, it's just a broad estimate. Rounding up or down by less than 1/8 of a page is inconsequential. In any case, the A.D. will break down those page counts into set-ups when they schedule a day, which is a better indicator. Eight inches to a page is simply a general convention that evolved in Hollywood filmmaking.
@@cinemanium1469 obviously not a precise measurement but you are introducing a systematic mistake for no reason at all. You can just draw your octaves on a piece of paper and use it instead of a ruler, or just eyeball it. And one octave PER SCENE if you shoot many short ones can lead to half a page of deviation, that is an extra scene and the difference between a well executed project and a failed one.
In over 4 minutes of this video this guy has failed to spot that he has missed a scene. I dearly hope he never gets to see or read one of my scripts. If he can totally miss a scene in only 4 sheets, how many will he miss in 90? Apart from that, good, clear info but I've always been taught to check, check and check again before presenting to an audience.
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Thank you so, so much for posting this video! I am in film school currently and my teacher expects us to know everything about the industry and would not explain how to do this when the page is almost 9/8ths long! You were so clear and concise this is so incredibly helpful!
Your Simple Approach makes it a 1000 times easier to understand. I finally understand how this thing works. Thx! :)
Thank you so much for this practical explanation. I am currently reading a book on producing short films, and I came across the concept of scene measuring, which was a bit difficult to understand without a visual explanation. I had a proper understanding through your video
Thank you, this was so simple, I was too shy to ask and I'm soooo glad I found this video
Short and simple, thank you so much for the explanation.
Invaluable. Thank you!
Hey! you did a great job.
This was so helpful!
Hey! Just a friendly suggestion, if you put your videos in a playlist it will be helpful for your subscribers. :) Thanks for creating this video.
Thanks Mimi! I'm a TH-cam idiot, but will try to figure out how to do that.
Thank you so much!
VERY HELPFUL. THANKS
For the first time, that makes sense.
Thank you so much
Good information, but the guy MISSED A SCENE! I guess it might not matter, but pay attention to detail.
Thank you sooooo much
Thank You.
Great 👍🏾
Great video, but it looks like you missed on numbering one of the scenes. There's actually 5 scenes in there from what I see.
the tutorial brings up questions
1) when does one do this? Is it for a fininal draft or at te end of eery writing session?
2) why do this who it is for?
3) why is it done by hand? The scene #s and eighths could be entered directly into thew page, right?
Joe-this is a production prep thing, not a writing thing. It's only done when a film is "greenlit" and the producers prepare the script for production. This is part of the process that converts a "spec script" into a "shooting script." And no, it doesn't have to be done by hand as in the video. There is software such as Movie Magic that can import a Final Draft script and allow the process to be done on a computer.
Hey, on page three you missed a Slugline (EXT. GREENBOM, ALABAMA), was that intentional or an oversight? Thanks for the video, I sub'd 1 min in, great video.
Yes-and if you caught my error, then you've got the hang of it!
A rule of thumb given to screenwriters is that one page is roughly a minute of screentime. The shooting team now divide that page by eight. Does filming work on units of seven and a half seconds?
7.5 seconds would be a strange unit indeed! I am not sure how or why it evolved this way, except that one-eighth of a page is roughly equal to one vertical inch on the page.
thank you
You missed a scene
Yes I did!
Can u rectify it and make new video. We genuinely interested to learn. Thank you.
The lesson is, you don't have to be competent, you just have to know the rules.
@@siddheshmahajan Just for the one scene, to make a new video?!
You missed a scene!
so when you have 7/8 on that last paper, and 5/8 in the next paper. is that mean you have to write 12/8 at the end of the scene?
In that example, you would write "1-4/8"
Cinemanium oh.. I see, thank youu!
Thank you, but why is it lined? What it for? Pretty important
One question, why break the page into eights? Is it for timing? What is measuring the length applicable to? Why do it. Thanks.
I see the same question. I will look into it. Thanks.
Cinemanium
Cinemanium
2 years ago
The key is in the next step, transferring this information to breakdown sheets that will go to your department heads. Watch: th-cam.com/video/AMbIdTaSXrE/w-d-xo.html
One-eighth of a page is roughly equal to one vertical inch on the page. Not sure how or why it evolved this way.
I'm still not understanding how this helps the breakdown process? What is it telling us? If we already know each page is roughly 1 minute of screen time, what does this formula do? I'm asking seriously, because I'd like to teach this but I'm not sure what this formula does for the breakdown process. What i'm I missing
The key is in the next step, transferring this information to breakdown sheets that will go to your department heads. Watch: th-cam.com/video/AMbIdTaSXrE/w-d-xo.html
It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to work. If you start changing things around you are going to make people think about things they have no place thinking.
You said this is the work of the AD but isn't this more so the work of the Script Supervisor?
Alice Pope-Terry Producer’s and PMs breakdown a script for budgeting and scheduling purposes. ADs break a script down for scheduling purposes. And all other departments breakdown scripts as well, but use different methods that don’t necessarily require such detail.
Does the production accountant breakdown the script? You said director assistant is it the same thing?
Script breakdowns may be done by various people, such as the first assistant director, a production manager or a production coordinator. On an indie film, the producer may even do it. However, breakdowns are not done by an accountant (though an accountant may help budget the film if it's a studio production).
@@cinemanium1469 thank you so much!🫡
you sound like steve carrel
So you are underestimating the time needed to shoot any scene that starts in the middle of a page and overestimating all that start at the beginning, just because your ruler marks inches instead of centimeters. Good job dude, you are fired.
I believe you've misunderstood. This isn't a precision measurement, it's just a broad estimate. Rounding up or down by less than 1/8 of a page is inconsequential. In any case, the A.D. will break down those page counts into set-ups when they schedule a day, which is a better indicator. Eight inches to a page is simply a general convention that evolved in Hollywood filmmaking.
@@cinemanium1469 obviously not a precise measurement but you are introducing a systematic mistake for no reason at all. You can just draw your octaves on a piece of paper and use it instead of a ruler, or just eyeball it. And one octave PER SCENE if you shoot many short ones can lead to half a page of deviation, that is an extra scene and the difference between a well executed project and a failed one.
5 scenes. You missed one @.45 EXT. GREENBOW ALABAMA appears again @1:17
I am dyslexic. Can I use coloured paper or would that offend Hollywood?
thats to much
In over 4 minutes of this video this guy has failed to spot that he has missed a scene.
I dearly hope he never gets to see or read one of my scripts.
If he can totally miss a scene in only 4 sheets, how many will he miss in 90?
Apart from that, good, clear info but I've always been taught to check, check and check again before presenting to an audience.
Thank you so much