Alexander Angelus Wouldn’t be a matter of seconds, the scene was probs shot over different days. So you can get small mistakes like that and the shirt buttons passing through easily.
I love it when a director says to me, "Nobody will notice, it's fine". A script supervisor can only do so much on the set. There have been many times I've mentioned something regarding a scene being shot only to be ignored, glared at, actors argue they did it a certain way holding a prop when I have a photo of them holding the prop in their other hand. Other times it's the D.P. also known as the Director of Photography. They don't care that the plant or table and lamp or the desktop computer or candles were directly in front of the actor, suddenly these items disappear or they are re-positioned. I especially love actors wearing mirrored sunglasses and the grips spray dulling spray on the lenses so you can't see the camera or crew. Script Supervisors have a VERY HARD job and we get blamed for a lot of things that are beyond our control.
I mean...it's hard for me to imagine things like the ones she mentions are actually mentioned in the script...which means they're doing more than just checking the actual script...or that there's more included in a script than I think, haha...I doubt it, though...that it would mention what drinks are being held and ties...
Another huge element of the job is keeping track of every single shot, what card/film reel it's on, the size, a description, and the timing of it and making sure it's labelled correctly for the editor to assemble later. They also have to calculate a rough estimate of the final runtime of the film to show to the network/studio to make sure they're not running over time. ALSO, they must keep track of first shot of the day, when lunch was called, the first shot after lunch, and wrap time to send to the studio. and they have to do all that while watching the actors and making sure that continuity is correct.
Script supervisors also keep track of how much of the script gets shot each day, how much footage is shot each day, and makes notes on the script which are useful for the editors.
Frank and Tamara, where did you guys get this idea? If you’ve worked with Assistant Directors who are doing this, it’s because they’re taking on the role of script supervisor as well (and I feel so bad for them. They must be so so stressed out).
I thinks it's ironic because a lot of Scorsese's films have continuity problems that are left like that because his editor thinks a good performance and execution is always more important that those details.
If you watch the intro of The Departed, you will notice that there's a scene where Costello slowly walks to a young boy while smoking a cigarette. But once he gets in front of the kid, the cigarette suddenly disappear.
@@Oceansta I'm making a joke that the most stressful job is that guy who says "Take 1." and moves that clicking black rectangle whenever a take of a scene will be shot.
no one understands anything, I bet even those two guys doesn’t know what they were talking about.... it was the ones behind the scene....I guess they didn’t know what happened either 😐
Actually, the last 3 episodes of Season 8 had consistent continuity errors... The 1st being the Coffee cup, the second being the hand of Jamie without the golden glove in one scene, and the last one being the Water bottle under Sam's chair. Seriously, a part of me still believes they did that on purpose...
They probably had to rush the shooting. Also the takes are sent to an editor so if one take with the Starbucks was sent to him by mistake and it’s the only one that fits the previous and next scenes they’ll have to use that one as they can’t really reshoot it. They could erased it in post easily to be honest
OMG why do people abuse the word "random". Almost nothing is random. Stop calling things that are unplanned or of unknown purpose or origin "random". A human being is never "randomly standing".
3:26 The actor on the right interlocks his fingers, but his hands are apart in the wide shot @ 3:27 Also at 4:22 the man slaps the folder on the desk, but in the next shot you can see the folder swinging past. Edit: Whoa I've never had so many likes before! Thanks for the 1K!
@@keicherie It's called sarcasm fellow gacha user kid. I'm criticizing these persons on youtube comments saying that they have depression and that they shouldn't exist.
I'm sorry @@KCgv6 I didn't mean to seem disrespectful. Script supervisors are great too. This video was just very eye opening for me. It's the people behind the scenes who are very important
@@rickrizzle423 You're both right. An editor isn't on set a lot of the time, so the script supervisor is the editors go to person for cutting. Both important jobs!
It’s because a typical viewer is watching the emotion of the scene and paying attention to the story not the technical side of filmmaking. Not to say that technical isn’t important, but it proves that story is much more important than technical. Emotion over continuity!
There used to be a show here in the UK called ‘biggest movie mistakes’ and ever since I watched that as a kid half the time I’m watching a film I’m just looking out for mistakes now 😂😂
I'm a script supervisor. Usually directors say "Nobody will notice that! Let's move on!" So I have to resort to telling him that I will make sure to list the goof on IMDB if he doesn't take care of it now. That usually works.
Well the script supervisor said they left "few" mistakes but I think it's just because the details that are mistakes are too small almost all people except people with godly perceptions can see it
I don't think that's meant to be a mistake. People screw up business names all the time. "Joann's" Fabrics, "Kroger's," "Krystal's," etc. The characters in the scene don't seem to be the type of people who care about getting store names accurate. Annoying but realistic.
Script supervisor notes can be overridden by the director, often for pacing or actor performance issues. Ideally you'd have both, but if you have to choose, pacing and performance are more important than minor continuity errors.
It's ok, we all are, even the people working on set and the editors can be. We, as humans, are not trained to expect sudden and inexplicable changes in our daily life. That's why we're so bad at recognizing them. And that's why script supervisors have jobs in the first place, and they study and train for it.
Admittedly, some of those rules may be broken on purpose. I remember attending a workshop once where we discussed an old Japanese movie where spacial continuity was seriously messed up and it created a strong sense of confusion and anxiety - exactly as the director intended and the movie was a masterpiece. So, in the end, you can do whatever you want as long as you know why and/or how it works.
@@jademarie5605 I'm sorry, it's been ages ago and I really can't remember. The course covered something like 40 movies per semester and I didn't even keep my notes :(
I’ll tell you a show that had one, Game of Thrones. They were so bad at their job, they left a Starbucks cup and water bottles be visible on shots. A great movie that had surprisingly horrible shot continuity was the Wolf of Wall Street. Great movie, but this lady most likely suffered an aneurism while watching it. I hadn’t even gotten into film yet when it came out, I was 17 and even I was baffled.
Usually, if a continuity error shows up in a finished product, the script supervisor is never the only one to blame. It's always her/him + the department that actually made the mistake (art department, costume department, etc.) Or sometimes, the script supervisor notices a mistake and the director is like "Pfff. No one will notice. Moving on to the next shot."
@@alexman378 Martin Scorcese has said that The Wolf of Wall Street purposely had continuity errors during scenes involving drug use, to put the audience in the mindset of the confused and drugged up characters.
I wouldn't call that an error. The store's actual name is Joann Fabric, but I've never heard anyone actually call it that. It's always called "Joann's Fabrics" or just "Joann's."
The green pool ball changes places several times (compare 0:15 to 0:33) including during the blocking shot (6:22) when it's gone so far right that it's behind the cup. While Sammy is standing up holding his cup with yellow straw, you can see both cups (pink and yellow straws) sitting on the desk in the close up shot at 0:26. At 0:06 there is a lamp in the back corner behind Don, but it drops in and out of shots. It's seen in shots a 1:30 but not 1:46. At 2:50 you can see the lamp, but at 2:55 you can't. The blinds behind Don aren't the same throughout. Just compare 0:10 and 0:30 as it's the same shot and easiest to see the difference. The very end shows Don opening the blinds to look outside, and they weren't put back to same place after each take. Sometimes there are pieces of paper leaned up (0:36) against the bonsai tree on the lowest shelf and sometimes not (6:43). At 4:33 Don hands the folder with his right hand (no watch) but at 4:44 he is retracting his left hand (watch on wrist).
I saw that to. Actually it disappeared after the section about props/wardrobe continuity. 3:28 is where I noticed it wasn't there anymore. I wondered if they pointed it out and just left the whole bit on the cutting room floor to keep this video tight for pacing purposes. Not a big deal but considering the subject I would of thought they would have been on top of all the errors.
0:30 there're 2 plastic cups in front of the lawyer but greg's supposed to be holding one of those 4:14 the paper's there but then in 4:15 the lawyer's holding it
Nice find! Also in the same shot the lawyer puts down the folder - you can hear the sound effect as it hits the table at 4:21 but in the next shot the lawyer's arm with the folder is still up and is going down again at 4:23. It's fast so most may miss it buts about 8 frames into that shot....
just watched the gaffer video - that was way too technical - I thought I had attention to detail this is a whole new level - respect to these professionals
This video is fantastic!!! I have been an actress… And I am an acting teacher… Years ago my daughter worked at a movie theater in a tiny town and we would wait till everybody left and re-run the movie and have my students Watch for the continuity… Continuity is absolutely everything and this woman is fantastic!!! Thank you so much for sharing this great video!! I am now going to watch it again.
As an actor, I learned these things early in my career. Now when I'm on set, I'm always paying attention to the direction I move and which hand I use things with and when in the scene I do certain actions. As a result editors and script supervisors love me. :-)
A lot of professional actors does that. And where they're not sure, they'll initiatiate and ask to view their own playback of the previous angles in order to match it.
@@KonstruktiveKritik welp it's good for both sides because he doesn't have to shoot again and again till the continuity mistake is fixed and they don't have to look way too many times every scene shot.
Lol my biology teacher is somewhat like that, after periodic test she is always like "I know that there was a lot of cheating", but she gives credit so who cares
Differences between 6:32 and 6:38 - The lighting behind the blights is much darker - The time on the wall clock is set an hour back - The coffee mugs have change positions - Greg/Sammy's chair has turned more inward - The items that were previously leaned up on the plant on the bottom shelf are now gone
when there were still smoothies in the scene we see the one guy stand up with his smoothie yet when we cut back to the lawyer both smoothies are still on the table...been script supervising for a few years now but it is always nice to see more love and understanding shown to the job.
at 4:14 there is another error. The guy lifted the top part of the paper forward and never picked it up completely but in the next shot he is putting 2 pieces of paper back in the folder as if he took them out.
Literally based on a book. But, for sake of honesty, I agree the last season needed that woman as bad as a kid needs his mother because the 8th season was awfull.
They dont do it like they are asking you to, by watching an edited clip in real time. Even an experienced script supervisor would miss most of that if they only got one chance to go through a clip and had to watch it in real time. Some of the scenes are only on screen for a couple of seconds and you cant take everything in in detail like that. They are on set and have notes photos and the actual script on hand to make sure they catch everything. Their job starts before the cameras start recording and that's where most of it takes place. Most of the visual errors should already be caught before the action starts so they can focus on the actors and the dialog. They are not multitasking superhumans as this has a lot of people believing by the comments in here. They are still important and develop their skills accordingly. Most people wont just jump into this job and be perfect.
it's interesting that this and editing are one of the jobs in filmmaking that are traditionally held by women (they used to be called 'script girls'). For whatever reason, women seem to have a better eye for detail than do men. Sidenote: women got a foothold in the editing field in the early days of Hollywood because film editing was considered akin to being a 'seamstress.'
As a professional male script supervisor, I'd like to kindly insist that men are just as capable of observing detail as women - just as women are just as capable as men at directing.
@@zacklarez Exactly. Maybe it's just one of those preconceived ideas shared by the cinematic industry that remained the same, but it comes down to personal attention to detail.
The other day I read how film editing was one of the best chances for women to break into the film industry, you know back when they had less rights than men, in that sector they were treated really well also, most of them at least
There's a vanishing lamp, vanishing shelf clock, vanishing papers on the bonsai, Greg's under shirt vanishes, green pool ball thing moves around, his glasses move right to the last shot, bad pant slap sound timing, when Greg says the truth rises to the top he's further back, the lawyers mug moves slightly towards the end, and they kept the worse tie at 1:34 they change mics.
at 0:19 the guy gets his smoothie before standing up and we see him holding it while he talks, but on 0:26 the smoothie is back at the table. also the lawyer gets his smoothie at 0:32 and drinks it but it is immediately back at the table in the next cut 0:33
The straws were wrong, but they stopped being wrong when they changed the eyeline. In the first sequence, when we were focussing on the lawyer the client (who was off camera) was obviously sitting down and his drink was on the table, even though when we cut to him he was standing and holding his drink, so the two mistakes were one. The continuity lady changed it before we got to these mistakes, also they changed it to a mug.
6:31, look at the chair on the right. Then look at it again at 6:38. I'm surprised they didn't mention or correct that - the chair rotated a little bit.
PSYCHOBEVO sins aren’t supposed to criticise the video It’s called satire They give enjoyment to the watcher by making fun of common tropes, themselves, the actual video, etc.
@@znk753 I mean, I'm just a stranger on the internet, not like I'll change your opinion on something, but that doesn't mean I can't try to get my opinion out there as well
Script Supervisors are stressed angels on set and I'm in constant awe of how they do their job. It's like an incredibly complex visual memory game where they have to see everything whilst also writing down everything.
The game of thrones script supervisor definitely needs to be blacklisted. Missed a whole Starbucks cup 🤦🏾♀️. On another note this women is phenomenal. Her attention to detail is pure genius. Bravo madam bravo 👏🏾
She didn't mention how the yellow straw cup was still on the desk in the shot at 0:25 , but the guy stood up with the cup in his hand in the previous shot.
sometimes these errors are noticeable, for example an over-the-shoulder shirt is on the wrong side in different shots. love how much detail goes into this
I'm a good proofreader but, man, I sucked at trying to spot any errors in this video. I think the script supervisor role is far more demanding. I wonder how some prima donna actors react to script supervisors intervening?
Legitimately a bop, holy crap! I like how you kept the lyrics the same and changed the instruments and arrangement, it changes the song while still keeping the main structure, which in my opinion is a really nice touch. Great job!
Watching this after studying my first year of filmmaking is just beyond awesome. Filmmaking is one of the most beautiful things on Earth and I just can't get enough of it.
Imagine how good she is at those spot the difference things on the back of kids menus
Urgurljules .L hhahaha
now i know why we play that game as young as we can be
Just cross your eyes so that the 2 pictures overlap, you will spot everything immediately
right?!
@@InviZ. : mind blown!
Don’t you just hate when *_your dragon gets accidentally replaced by some horse_*
I laughed so hard I literally spat all over myself and this is not even that funny
That means Joergen #2 is in the End!
HoboMen6 2 oh my god you’re right
Bro same, happens all the time.
*ding*
Director: "CUT!!"
Actor: _takes off pink tie and changes it for green one_
Script Supervisor: "What the F...!"
Don’t you hate it when you end up switching ties in a matter of seconds by accident? It gets annoying, man...
Alexander Angelus Wouldn’t be a matter of seconds, the scene was probs shot over different days. So you can get small mistakes like that and the shirt buttons passing through easily.
@@Bald_and_Brown /s
I love it when a director says to me, "Nobody will notice, it's fine".
A script supervisor can only do so much on the set. There have been many times I've mentioned something regarding a scene being shot only to be ignored, glared at, actors argue they did it a certain way holding a prop when I have a photo of them holding the prop in their other hand. Other times it's the D.P. also known as the Director of Photography. They don't care that the plant or table and lamp or the desktop computer or candles were directly in front of the actor, suddenly these items disappear or they are re-positioned. I especially love actors wearing mirrored sunglasses and the grips spray dulling spray on the lenses so you can't see the camera or crew. Script Supervisors have a VERY HARD job and we get blamed for a lot of things that are beyond our control.
@@cherylstarbuck4823 Sounds like many supervisor jobs. So many people can't understand that supervisor correct errors, not lazyness.
And here I was, thinking a script supervisor just made sure the actors said the right lines... Very cool Martha, thanks!
Hawkens85 ikr, the film industry is complex lol
That's what I used to think too, haha...
I mean...it's hard for me to imagine things like the ones she mentions are actually mentioned in the script...which means they're doing more than just checking the actual script...or that there's more included in a script than I think, haha...I doubt it, though...that it would mention what drinks are being held and ties...
You mean "Thank you Martha, very cool!"
Another huge element of the job is keeping track of every single shot, what card/film reel it's on, the size, a description, and the timing of it and making sure it's labelled correctly for the editor to assemble later. They also have to calculate a rough estimate of the final runtime of the film to show to the network/studio to make sure they're not running over time. ALSO, they must keep track of first shot of the day, when lunch was called, the first shot after lunch, and wrap time to send to the studio. and they have to do all that while watching the actors and making sure that continuity is correct.
Script supervisors also keep track of how much of the script gets shot each day, how much footage is shot each day, and makes notes on the script which are useful for the editors.
Phoebe Snow I always thought that was the assistant directors job
Phoebe Snow sooooo a director?
That's the assistant director's job
Frank and Tamara, where did you guys get this idea? If you’ve worked with Assistant Directors who are doing this, it’s because they’re taking on the role of script supervisor as well (and I feel so bad for them. They must be so so stressed out).
seems like the perfect job for a nitpicker haha
"I'm gonna count to 70"
Seems a little excessive but go off.
I would have sit there and atleast let him count until 60. XD
@@Drace90 I would've waited until 69 XD
@@violetlavi2207 Nice.
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She is a legend. One of the many people Scorsese keeps hiring and one of the many reasons his movies are all top notch.
I thinks it's ironic because a lot of Scorsese's films have continuity problems that are left like that because his editor thinks a good performance and execution is always more important that those details.
If you watch the intro of The Departed, you will notice that there's a scene where Costello slowly walks to a young boy while smoking a cigarette. But once he gets in front of the kid, the cigarette suddenly disappear.
He or She?
@@Despair505 I imagine this Martha lady and Thelma Schoonmaker don't get along well...
6.03 his glasses change position
Are we not going to talk about how absolutely riveting that acting and script is?
it was?
So this isn't a reenactment of bad acting?
It was hammy in the extreme. And the story was supposed to be silly.
Its sarcasm guys...
Its so good I suddenly want to go to Joanne Fabrics!
But did you see the man in a gorilla suit walk through the scene?
10/10 nice reference
@@ErdTirdMans haha .. thanks
Good one!!!!
But did you see the moonwalking bear?
I dont get the refrence lol
4:22 lawyer slams folder down with finality; 4:23 still waving it.
That's really a very good observation ..
SpeckleKen I’m pretty sure he didn’t. You can slam something on a table but not let go. But good eye.
You're hired.
Tua, the tuatara he could have lifted it back up
Tua, the tuatara that’s my point. Read the comment again.
This is just a minimum part of a movie. Imagine an entire movie... that would be so stressful
Jacklobster yeah :)
Absolutely. But it's also less stressful than a lot of other jobs on set.
In my opinion.
@@Oceansta The guy who announces takes. You don't do much all day and when you do have stuff to do, it's because someone else made a mistake.
@@justinjakeashton sorry, what? Could you elaborate
@@Oceansta I'm making a joke that the most stressful job is that guy who says "Take 1." and moves that clicking black rectangle whenever a take of a scene will be shot.
Error counts: 0
Me: *Blink*
Error counts: 39428
WTF.
Error count: 69420
no one understands anything, I bet even those two guys doesn’t know what they were talking about.... it was the ones behind the scene....I guess they didn’t know what happened either 😐
Shows how important their job is.
Gabzo Avro shows who to blame...
Just hit 4K likes
Great, but who burned down Joann Fabrics?
DaBaltimoron the Rottweiler
@@lalatorres683 I figured it was that shifty dragon.
Russia
@@DaBaltimoron shape shiftyied into a horse it did
His evil twin
So i guess the script supervisor was absent during that game of thrones episode with the coffee cup lol
Actually, the last 3 episodes of Season 8 had consistent continuity errors... The 1st being the Coffee cup, the second being the hand of Jamie without the golden glove in one scene, and the last one being the Water bottle under Sam's chair. Seriously, a part of me still believes they did that on purpose...
Or perhaps, a scriptwriter too.
@matcha pocky lmao the game of thrones final season didnt need any advertising
@@himanshunayak those aren't continuity errors, just mistakes
They probably had to rush the shooting. Also the takes are sent to an editor so if one take with the Starbucks was sent to him by mistake and it’s the only one that fits the previous and next scenes they’ll have to use that one as they can’t really reshoot it. They could erased it in post easily to be honest
Random person: *is randomly standing*
Martha Pinson: This is actually a mistake
Emil Dovis 😂😂😂😂😂😂LMAO
Im sorry
OH MY GOD!!!
OMG why do people abuse the word "random". Almost nothing is random. Stop calling things that are unplanned or of unknown purpose or origin "random". A human being is never "randomly standing".
@@silvertube52 you must be very fun at parties
**Secretly an Ad for JoAnn’s fabrics**
Nice with the 17 years ago, top notch
There is seriously a company
The “17 years ago” threw me 😂😂
😂
3:26 The actor on the right interlocks his fingers, but his hands are apart in the wide shot @ 3:27
Also at 4:22 the man slaps the folder on the desk, but in the next shot you can see the folder swinging past.
Edit: Whoa I've never had so many likes before! Thanks for the 1K!
Wow nice observing! Even the supervisor did not talk about that mistake.
boi you have potential
nice
nIce! Observent, i see.
@@moayad80 She said there were some hidden for us to find so they left that on purpose
Me: *Exists*
Martha: That is actually a mistake.
So, this is the Martha that Batman in BvS was calling out to. Huh.
A precisely incorrect one
Same.
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@@keicherie It's called sarcasm fellow gacha user kid. I'm criticizing these persons on youtube comments saying that they have depression and that they shouldn't exist.
I bet she can never watch a movie peacefully
Same thing with Songwriters listening to music.
@@RiversBliss same with programmers making computer games
I want to see her watch the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man film
@@ThisIsTeeKay Better still: Sam Raimi's Evil Dead 2! Even Sam Raimi can't watch it peacefully.
etymologist on the internet
This woman feels like your favorite teacher in middle school
I mean, you're not wrong.
Yup. She's a cool person..if she's my teacher then class will be so calm.
I now have a completely new respect for editors. Mind blowing
How about script supervisors?
I'm sorry @@KCgv6 I didn't mean to seem disrespectful. Script supervisors are great too. This video was just very eye opening for me. It's the people behind the scenes who are very important
@@rickrizzle423 You're both right. An editor isn't on set a lot of the time, so the script supervisor is the editors go to person for cutting. Both important jobs!
Now imagine the editing and continuity observation THIS video would have needed.
The older I get the more I watch movies I have became fascinated to what goes on behind the scenes and she was a badass.
So Riverdale does not have a script supervisor, good to know.
That's what i thought ksksks
Riverdale is the worst show to ever exsist and no one can change my mind
@@ThePener true, they even explain their metaphors...
@@crankillx3965 Y I K E S legit super cringy
Same with the Bohemian Rhapsody movie starring Rami Malek
Waldo: no one will ever find me
Script supervisor: ima bout to end this mans career
… this man's *whole* career. (Normally I wouldn't mention this sort of thing, but it seems appropriate here.)
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
@@tobybartels8426 ok comment supervisor
You end up with a Starbucks cup casually sitting on a Winterfell banquet hall table.
Obviously Starbucks started in Westeros in midevil times while on Earth we had to wait until the modern era
It's crazy how i didn't notice anything until she talks about it
Haha...I didn't either...not a single thing...I don't usually catch things like that in films, only notice when they're pointed out in some video...
It’s because a typical viewer is watching the emotion of the scene and paying attention to the story not the technical side of filmmaking. Not to say that technical isn’t important, but it proves that story is much more important than technical. Emotion over continuity!
Eh, I noticed the props and the tie, but that's because I was actively looking.
That shows how insignificant continuity is..
There used to be a show here in the UK called ‘biggest movie mistakes’ and ever since I watched that as a kid half the time I’m watching a film I’m just looking out for mistakes now 😂😂
She must be the person who fills out all the IMDB goofs.
Always wondered who did that!
I'm a script supervisor. Usually directors say "Nobody will notice that! Let's move on!" So I have to resort to telling him that I will make sure to list the goof on IMDB if he doesn't take care of it now. That usually works.
@@eggchick Wow, that is pretty cool.
They keep saying Joann's Fabrics but the mugshot says Joann Fabric. Neat.
It may make for poor movie, but it's true to life.
Well the script supervisor said they left "few" mistakes but I think it's just because the details that are mistakes are too small almost all people except people with godly perceptions can see it
I came here looking for this exact comment.
Maybe Joann Fabric is her name and she banned her fabric store after herself.
I don't think that's meant to be a mistake. People screw up business names all the time. "Joann's" Fabrics, "Kroger's," "Krystal's," etc. The characters in the scene don't seem to be the type of people who care about getting store names accurate. Annoying but realistic.
I love how creative these explanations are! Great stuff!
I love Kris. He is my god filmmaker
This is so detailed, you can tell she is professional in her field
I see these kinds of mistakes all the time in movies. They need more people like you in the industry...
Vladimir Janic Will they be able to pay tho?
all movies have a script supervisor, it's just a really hard job
@@Kelly_C It is, no doubt about that...
Script supervisor notes can be overridden by the director, often for pacing or actor performance issues. Ideally you'd have both, but if you have to choose, pacing and performance are more important than minor continuity errors.
Vladimir Janic she did help make really good movies
Loved this video despite me realising I am very unobservant
B. Tisdale multiple POVs and quick editing don’t help either.
It's ok, we all are, even the people working on set and the editors can be. We, as humans, are not trained to expect sudden and inexplicable changes in our daily life. That's why we're so bad at recognizing them. And that's why script supervisors have jobs in the first place, and they study and train for it.
Disobedient
She's like Cinema Sins, but before the movie comes out.
Affishal and she notices actual mistakes.
Yeah I thought that too
@Justin Marion I think he's entertaining so... Is that sth useful? ^^'
Admittedly, some of those rules may be broken on purpose. I remember attending a workshop once where we discussed an old Japanese movie where spacial continuity was seriously messed up and it created a strong sense of confusion and anxiety - exactly as the director intended and the movie was a masterpiece. So, in the end, you can do whatever you want as long as you know why and/or how it works.
what is the movie called?
@@jademarie5605 I'm sorry, it's been ages ago and I really can't remember. The course covered something like 40 movies per semester and I didn't even keep my notes :(
Right, but you gotta know the rules before being able to break them. It would be too easy for any amateur filmmaker to mess that up.
Good example of you must know and understand the rules before you can break them, always was taught that in creative writing class
@@jademarie5605 probably by japanese Master filmmaker Yasujiro Ozu
Probably masterpiece film Floating Weeds
"And this dragon thing." Hahaha
Also counting to 70 XD
-bad dragon thing-
What is it tho lol
0:26 blinds are mostly open
1:38 blinds are mostly closed
Good job.
Good catch, guess you could apply for her position! 🌚
I can now think of MANY movies that obviously did not have script supervisors.
I’ll tell you a show that had one, Game of Thrones. They were so bad at their job, they left a Starbucks cup and water bottles be visible on shots. A great movie that had surprisingly horrible shot continuity was the Wolf of Wall Street. Great movie, but this lady most likely suffered an aneurism while watching it. I hadn’t even gotten into film yet when it came out, I was 17 and even I was baffled.
Usually, if a continuity error shows up in a finished product, the script supervisor is never the only one to blame. It's always her/him + the department that actually made the mistake (art department, costume department, etc.) Or sometimes, the script supervisor notices a mistake and the director is like "Pfff. No one will notice. Moving on to the next shot."
@@maxsgirard5808 SO TRUE
@@alexman378 Martin Scorcese has said that The Wolf of Wall Street purposely had continuity errors during scenes involving drug use, to put the audience in the mindset of the confused and drugged up characters.
Adelaide Harris That is most certainly not the case, you see tons of continuity errors with sober characters in scenes where drugs are not used.
I'm studying in the media and this video is such a great thing to watch!
Best of luck!
@@LightYagami-wt1jw Thank you!
Yeah it shows that if her job didn't exist nobody would notice
@@timdude2732 right on
i am teaching in media and i just hit jackpot
No comments about "I'm gonna count to seventy"??
Lmfao. I was thinking the same thing
1
Why? Is that a reference to something?
@@flaviogomes just think it's an error
70 is such an odd choice... Has he timed how long it takes him to grab his coat, etc?
There's a nice old lady talking the whole time while I'm watching the movie.
😂😂😂
HAHAAHAHHAHAH
hahaha
That is actually an error.
Oh snap! She got us! In the beginning of the video she was wearing purple and at the end she is wearing a blue shirt!
*got em*
Her shirt doesn't change though... It's purple at the end.
It looks white and gold to me
Her shirt screams, "yannie" to me
It would've been cool
*Another error:* The actors keep saying "Joann's Fabrics" while the mugshot says "Joann Fabric".
I wouldn't call that an error. The store's actual name is Joann Fabric, but I've never heard anyone actually call it that. It's always called "Joann's Fabrics" or just "Joann's."
The green pool ball changes places several times (compare 0:15 to 0:33) including during the blocking shot (6:22) when it's gone so far right that it's behind the cup.
While Sammy is standing up holding his cup with yellow straw, you can see both cups (pink and yellow straws) sitting on the desk in the close up shot at 0:26.
At 0:06 there is a lamp in the back corner behind Don, but it drops in and out of shots. It's seen in shots a 1:30 but not 1:46. At 2:50 you can see the lamp, but at 2:55 you can't.
The blinds behind Don aren't the same throughout. Just compare 0:10 and 0:30 as it's the same shot and easiest to see the difference. The very end shows Don opening the blinds to look outside, and they weren't put back to same place after each take.
Sometimes there are pieces of paper leaned up (0:36) against the bonsai tree on the lowest shelf and sometimes not (6:43).
At 4:33 Don hands the folder with his right hand (no watch) but at 4:44 he is retracting his left hand (watch on wrist).
nietzkore you got a good eye!
This is your calling
Senpai!
You seriously should consider doing this for a living, if you're not already doing it.
I noticed these too and was going to post. But you beat me to it! Mind you I wasn’t going to go crazy with exact time stamps. Great job!
The clock on the third shelf is missing in the last shot
I saw that to. Actually it disappeared after the section about props/wardrobe continuity. 3:28 is where I noticed it wasn't there anymore. I wondered if they pointed it out and just left the whole bit on the cutting room floor to keep this video tight for pacing purposes. Not a big deal but considering the subject I would of thought they would have been on top of all the errors.
@@DrewboiX they mentioned that they kept some errors in for the audience to find, and I found one is all :D
And hr called him the wrong name at the end too - sammie instead of greg.
@@katerineking
he used to go by the name sammy stonesetter or something
The lamp next to the window
0:30 there're 2 plastic cups in front of the lawyer but greg's supposed to be holding one of those
4:14 the paper's there but then in 4:15 the lawyer's holding it
Nice find! Also in the same shot the lawyer puts down the folder - you can hear the sound effect as it hits the table at 4:21 but in the next shot the lawyer's arm with the folder is still up and is going down again at 4:23. It's fast so most may miss it buts about 8 frames into that shot....
One more mistake: When the lawyer handed over the folder, it dit not get turned around. So it would have been upside down in one take
He just give that already turned around
Yeah it felt choppy when the lawyer gave him it it looked so unnatural Hugh I get the her bid jeebies just by seeing it!
@@RizaLazar wut the fuc are you saying
Congratulation, you're a special snowflake
@@adolfhitler7394 Hey Hitler!
*5:50** Who on earth counts to 70😂😂😂😂*
I count 71 likes
"Alright buddy, Imma count to 139.43, and if you're not out I'll have you escorted!"
shubham preet 7
*Face the wall! You’re grounded! Now count to 70!*
FonzieTV lol
When the actor said, “Alright, I’m leaving”
His sunglasses were on his shirt.
not in the corrected shot, though, where he turns to his left
Categories the Oscars should have
-Script Supervisor
-Stunt Coordinator
You shouldn't be able to tell if a script supervisor is used.
@@danlastname9002 The less you're aware of SS, the more recognition they should get.
Script Supervisors are so underappreciated. Glad to see a video celebrating them!
just watched the gaffer video - that was way too technical - I thought I had attention to detail this is a whole new level - respect to these professionals
wHaT DoES ThaT MeAn GReG
I felt that.
*WHAT WAS THE REASON.*
What does it mean, what does it all mean ??
Lol
oof
Wow okay today I learned I'd be an absolutely horrible script supervisor 😂
Was thinking the same. But in reality they would watch these scenes very slowly. Not just watch through and instantly see the errors
why is nobody talking about that white clock disappearing
It has never disappeared, there's just zooming in and out
@@falcon-vx3cc 5:27 =)))
@@maiaungureanu5947 drive.google.com/file/d/1HDlXZW1KZhpcGmcWZtDGTebwZ0ZBCROT/view?usp=drivesdk
There it is
they meant the clock on the shelf
i think it was removed when they prevented recurring issues
So we have to be perfectionist, have a great memorization skill, and sharp eyes. Got it. I'm fine with my current job.
indian kurnia akbar i could never do this for a job, not even to save my life
I would be great at this. I am extremely pedantic and particular. The only problem is that this would bore me after a few times.
Some ppl are fit for this job because its kinda normal for them
@@MosesMatsepane oh I have the very same thing, I spotted some mistakes that even she didn't correct
Pointing out faults is my pet peeve. I think I can do well at this job
This Lady just put cinemasins to shame, haha.
Cinemasins has no shame.
I would love to see a CinemaSins video where she is a guest commentator.
Technically, there would BE no cinemasins if script supervisors did their jobs perfectly
@@cynthiaaaa5204 : There would be, because Anna Kendrick still would not be his girlfriend.
@@cynthiaaaa5204 Do you really think Cinemasins point out real mistakes?
This video is fantastic!!!
I have been an actress… And I am an acting teacher… Years ago my daughter worked at a movie theater in a tiny town and we would wait till everybody left and re-run the movie and have my students Watch for the continuity… Continuity is absolutely everything and this woman is fantastic!!!
Thank you so much for sharing this great video!! I am now going to watch it again.
As an actor, I learned these things early in my career. Now when I'm on set, I'm always paying attention to the direction I move and which hand I use things with and when in the scene I do certain actions. As a result editors and script supervisors love me. :-)
D. L. Walker I expected them to hate you because you‘re actually already doing half of their job ^^
Konstruktive Kritik he’s making their jobs easier
A lot of professional actors does that. And where they're not sure, they'll initiatiate and ask to view their own playback of the previous angles in order to match it.
@@KonstruktiveKritik welp it's good for both sides because he doesn't have to shoot again and again till the continuity mistake is fixed and they don't have to look way too many times every scene shot.
You already
I always thought a script supervisor was a person who made sure the script/lines are being said word for word. Mad respect for this job title.
Me too. We don't have such job title in my country, and usually the executive/associate producers do the job described on the video.
@@xnij250 What's your country?
if she was my teacher. she probably will know i copied others homework
Acha Erlangga im sorry but I noticed the you have multiple continuity errors in your homework
Lol my biology teacher is somewhat like that, after periodic test she is always like "I know that there was a lot of cheating", but she gives credit so who cares
@Jack park no kid no
@@Atvgokilabis Yep. The best thing you can do for yourself is learn self discipline.
If you don't learn you're only hurting yourself in the long run.
@Jack park
Eventually people just seem to know..... LOL
Differences between 6:32 and 6:38
- The lighting behind the blights is much darker
- The time on the wall clock is set an hour back
- The coffee mugs have change positions
- Greg/Sammy's chair has turned more inward
- The items that were previously leaned up on the plant on the bottom shelf are now gone
when there were still smoothies in the scene we see the one guy stand up with his smoothie yet when we cut back to the lawyer both smoothies are still on the table...been script supervising for a few years now but it is always nice to see more love and understanding shown to the job.
But the real question is...
Who burned down Joann’s Fabric Store?
The dragon thing...
The same person who burned down Cheryl's SheShed
They will be revealed next season, which is coming in 3019. I can't wait!
Joann for the insurance, duh.
@@warbler1984 the horse
Him: *Breathes*
Martha: _That’s not suppose to happen_
😂😂
BRO THE CLOCK IN THE BACKGROUND JUST DISAPPEARED HALFWAY THROUGH
No, it didn't.
@@manavighosh4344 White clock on the shelf did.
Lol i did not notice any error till she mentioned it
Omg same 😂
I noticed the tie but nothing else
you might not have consciously but subconsciously your brain would notice something weird going on or ‘wrong’
Idk how universal Joann's is but the fact that it's being used in this scene cracks me up
at 4:14 there is another error. The guy lifted the top part of the paper forward and never picked it up completely but in the next shot he is putting 2 pieces of paper back in the folder as if he took them out.
Also at 1:35 he´s wearing another tie.
and shortly after he slams the folder on the table, but in the next shot it appears briefly
6:49 .
The color of the books are changing..... and the clock on thhe shelf was lost?
we can also see when greg opens the folder that somehow the incident report is on the top and the title is blue
Script sups are a rare breed of OCD. I love them. Usually the nicest people.
Not nicer than a banana
**perfectionism
(not OCD, you literally said "script sups are a rare breed of obsessive compulsion disorder" which doesn't make any sense)
Uh .... Awkward..
The clock on the shelf disappears completely in the rest of the take : )
Diego Castro so does the lamp that was in the corner
...easy fix
omg! Martha! I attended one of her scripty workshops in film school. LOVE HER!!!
How was she?
@@ruvin7023 she loves her..
Akali Matchups lmfao
"Im gonna count to seventy" lmao
Q. What happens when a movie has no script supervisor?
A. Game Of Thrones
*Better question to that answer - What happens when a movie has no script or script supervisor?
Literally based on a book.
But, for sake of honesty, I agree the last season needed that woman as bad as a kid needs his mother because the 8th season was awfull.
@@davesvens8697 They had exhausted all the books by that point so the GOT "writers" were just kinda freestyling
I liked the ending personality, but it should have been longer and it could have been better scripted
S T A R B U C K S
Cinema Sins is a real job ..?
lmao she'd be a great addition to Cinema Sins.
Should be: Script supervisor sins
f Forecast An episode would probably be a half hour long or more.
No, Cinema Sins takes a lot of clips out of context on purpose to make them seem like mistakes. She fixes actual mistakes.
Bryan Kelly cinema sins should do a video on this ahaha
I love this. I would horrible at this job but it's fun to see what a superpower attention to detail can be.
Yup, just like how you forgot to add "be" in between "would" and "horrible"
@@YoungBlaze At least I know my limitations. How's your "music" career going?
@@dragonflyinamber Even more amazing now since you took time out of your Really Busy Schedule to check and ask about it!
They dont do it like they are asking you to, by watching an edited clip in real time. Even an experienced script supervisor would miss most of that if they only got one chance to go through a clip and had to watch it in real time. Some of the scenes are only on screen for a couple of seconds and you cant take everything in in detail like that. They are on set and have notes photos and the actual script on hand to make sure they catch everything. Their job starts before the cameras start recording and that's where most of it takes place. Most of the visual errors should already be caught before the action starts so they can focus on the actors and the dialog. They are not multitasking superhumans as this has a lot of people believing by the comments in here. They are still important and develop their skills accordingly. Most people wont just jump into this job and be perfect.
@@BrandGSX i like how you put that
Whoa! Seems to me the Script Supervisor has the toughest job of all the people working on a film. Respect ✊
I just directed a film a few weeks ago and I'm soooo glad my AD suggested someone for script supervising. Always get one when you can film students!
YOU’RE TEARING ME APART, MARTHA!
oh hai mark
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!
@@xmaslieder I did not!!!
@@markrimiki33 I can't believe you commited suicide. How could you have done this?
This is basically one huge game of find the difference
it's interesting that this and editing are one of the jobs in filmmaking that are traditionally held by women (they used to be called 'script girls'). For whatever reason, women seem to have a better eye for detail than do men. Sidenote: women got a foothold in the editing field in the early days of Hollywood because film editing was considered akin to being a 'seamstress.'
As a professional male script supervisor, I'd like to kindly insist that men are just as capable of observing detail as women - just as women are just as capable as men at directing.
@@zacklarez Exactly. Maybe it's just one of those preconceived ideas shared by the cinematic industry that remained the same, but it comes down to personal attention to detail.
The other day I read how film editing was one of the best chances for women to break into the film industry, you know back when they had less rights than men, in that sector they were treated really well also, most of them at least
nowadays ppl understand how crucial editing is
oooh that's really interesting
White clock disappeared! I was waiting for her to correct it but she didn’t! yay I win
at which time stamp?
@@smileydweeb3611 @ 3:30 its gone
At 2:42 - preventing recurring issues. Assumed that they had removed the white clock ever since.
She said at the end that they purposely left a few errors in there so you could catch them, the white clock wasn't the only thing
At the same time stamp, the floor lamp in that same corner is gone, too!
There's a vanishing lamp, vanishing shelf clock, vanishing papers on the bonsai, Greg's under shirt vanishes, green pool ball thing moves around, his glasses move right to the last shot, bad pant slap sound timing, when Greg says the truth rises to the top he's further back, the lawyers mug moves slightly towards the end, and they kept the worse tie at 1:34 they change mics.
at 0:19 the guy gets his smoothie before standing up and we see him holding it while he talks, but on 0:26 the smoothie is back at the table.
also the lawyer gets his smoothie at 0:32 and drinks it but it is immediately back at the table in the next cut 0:33
Ooh, good catch! I missed that one.
This is the only one I caught before reading the comments.
In the very first shot the blinds are facing one way but then in the next and for the rest of the scene they’re the other way.
what about the straws? is anyone gonna talk about them?
They are boba drink straws or bubble tea
shashwat johri Thank you!! He stands up and takes his drink with him, but the following shot shows his straw on the table.
Doesn’t matter. They were changed to mugs.
@Mikael P. it just a proper way to ask us to help her to do her job.
The straws were wrong, but they stopped being wrong when they changed the eyeline. In the first sequence, when we were focussing on the lawyer the client (who was off camera) was obviously sitting down and his drink was on the table, even though when we cut to him he was standing and holding his drink, so the two mistakes were one. The continuity lady changed it before we got to these mistakes, also they changed it to a mug.
"What does that mean, Greg?"
"It means it can throw off the emotion an actor is trying to convey."
Alright, I love this video.
6:31, look at the chair on the right. Then look at it again at 6:38. I'm surprised they didn't mention or correct that - the chair rotated a little bit.
@@edwardtremethick I must have missed the part at the end first time around. The perils of multitasking.
I thought making films are easy... Until i saw this video
Lol, how can you possibly think that making a film is easy?
Because they never made a good film.
@@jacobshirley3457 oof
Easy? ohh no
-COLOMBIANCHANNEL-TM You one of those people who calls a vlog a video?
Stevie Wonder was a guest script supervisor at the game of thrones star bucks cup episode
This job is to get less sins in cinemasins
That doesn't say anything good about cinemasins
CinemaSins is pretty stupid though. Half of their "sins" are just their own fault for not paying attention to the movie.
*fewer sins.
PSYCHOBEVO sins aren’t supposed to criticise the video
It’s called satire
They give enjoyment to the watcher by making fun of common tropes, themselves, the actual video, etc.
@@znk753 I mean, I'm just a stranger on the internet, not like I'll change your opinion on something, but that doesn't mean I can't try to get my opinion out there as well
Script Supervisors are stressed angels on set and I'm in constant awe of how they do their job. It's like an incredibly complex visual memory game where they have to see everything whilst also writing down everything.
The game of thrones script supervisor definitely needs to be blacklisted. Missed a whole Starbucks cup 🤦🏾♀️. On another note this women is phenomenal. Her attention to detail is pure genius. Bravo madam bravo 👏🏾
"So Greg, I need you to be perfectly frank with me" threw me off a bit. :)
Script supervisors would be incredibly good in spotting difference in 2 photos.
She didn't mention how the yellow straw cup was still on the desk in the shot at 0:25 , but the guy stood up with the cup in his hand in the previous shot.
6:00 The T-shirt and glasses are constantly changing at the end!
And no one is talking about that even though she did mention that error in the beginning
Just tell me Who burned down Joann's Fabrics?? I'm curious now! 😁
Joann herself did to receive the insurance money. It's a classical.
At 5:19, when the lawyer hands over the folder, the side of the folder is facing the other way than when the client holds it
sometimes these errors are noticeable, for example an over-the-shoulder shirt is on the wrong side in different shots. love how much detail goes into this
They're like proofreaders but on film. 😂😍
I'm a good proofreader but, man, I sucked at trying to spot any errors in this video. I think the script supervisor role is far more demanding. I wonder how some prima donna actors react to script supervisors intervening?
@@frolickinglions They probably think they're irritating. 😂 But they're essential so they can't do anything about it.
Legitimately a bop, holy crap!
I like how you kept the lyrics the same and changed the instruments and arrangement, it changes the song while still keeping the main structure, which in my opinion is a really nice touch. Great job!
Watching this after studying my first year of filmmaking is just beyond awesome. Filmmaking is one of the most beautiful things on Earth and I just can't get enough of it.