I finally bought a baitcaster after using spinning reels for years. At this point the only advantage I see so far is that I don't have to flip the bail anymore to cast. Also it looks really cool. That's about it.
Spinning reels all day if it ain't broke dont fix it, ive caught tons of bass and multi species fresh and salt and my accuracy is phenomenal and the best part no birdnest
I have to agree with you I also can cast very well with both i rather use the spinning now with the new lines they have come out with you can cast as if you were using a bait caster and never touch the line except to cast just draw back at 12:00 let it go about 1/4 after and you are their !!!!!
Hey Josh, great info on both reels. I turned 62 this year and never used a baitcaster but one time and that was enough. But i decided late last season to give it another try and today I would not be caught own the water without both these reels. Thanks, It's nerver to late to learn.
Thank you Josh! I’m trying to get into fishing and no one really has given me information like you have today. Thank you and I most likely will start with a spinning one and then go onto the bait caster. I now know what the difference is in terms of use for it.
I wouldn’t bother switching. Spinning reels cast further and your better off learning to cats accurately with a spinning reel. Saves a lot of money and headaches
I'm finally giving baitcaster a chance and I have to say, I'm really enjoying the mechanics of it. Once you get the hang of it, it feels so much more smoother to operate and pleasure to fish with. Of course, when the weather is not good, I use the spinning reel as it can be cast against wind and easier for certain techniques.
I used to use a spinning but i like challanging my self and due to my adhd tendencys, i like fine tuning the reels and practicing with them, slowly easying of the settings and getting closer to that free spool state. Casting far with one feels so satisfiying. I also would like to mention i dont live super close to a lake but i love fishing so if i am really in a fishing mood i can take a bait caster into the back yard and just practice casting. Since you can't be careless while casting them it forces me to pay attention and focus on not birds nesting. Due to the adhd, fiddling with things is something i am always doing and just using the baitcaster can be fun for me as it is something i can work at getting better with. I do use both reels though, the bait caster is just more fun for me. I switch to spinner when i'm in the mood to not think about anything and just chill.
I watched how to use baitcaster from this channel around 3 or 4 years ago. Now im not only using it but I able to tune my baitcaster inside out by myself. Thanks josh !
Good info for some one thinking to go with a bait caster after 30 yrs of a spinner. Great vid! Like how you kept it simple and informative with out really picking sides.
Dude, why you keep talking and not to start casting after hear that water splash? I think naturaly when angler hear or see fish jump, they will start to throw some cast immedietly.
The great thing about fishing is you can use both! You don’t have to chose one or the other! Just got my first baitcaster yesterday and I love it! I’ve only fished for about a year seriously but I made some money and bought a abu garcia Revo X combo! It’s amazing
Great video. Basically it tells me to develop my skills with a spinning rod and pick up the bait caster later. I haven't fished in 40 years and starting over again. Thanks Joshua.
The technology for bait caster reels has dramatically increased. I learned to cast with penn 209 with 20lb mono as kid. Your thumb did everything. Once tuned I can cast a modern bait caster as for as I can with spinning reel with weights light as 18th oz.
Been using spin casters my whole life with pinpoint accuracy. Close the bail instead of touching the line. Learn fast fishing rivers and creeks where a longer than expected cast wraps up or snagged in a tree, beaver lodge etc.
Thank you for this video I like to use 25pund fishing line my shaksper medium action tiger 7 spinning combo and it works great for me I love going fishing🎣 and I love seeing your great amazing tips and and fishing videos my friend
Even the small bait casters have a powerful retrieve. Spinning reels require less concentration on equipment during the cast. I like the powerful retrieve of a baitcaster, but I can concentrate on bait placement / action easier using a spinning reel. I have 2 bait casters and 2 spinning rigs. I use the spinning rigs more often.
I was raised fishing my whole life with closed faced push button reels after recently getting frustrated with blowing the drag on 3 of them in a month I bought a spinning reel and everybody thought I was crazy until they saw how it casts can’t wait to see their faces when I get my baitcaster
@@Pennst44 Closing the bail by cranking will typically cause line twist. If the bail is not flipped back into the same position it was in when you flipped it out, then it will start winding the line onto the spool differently than how it came off.
@@Pennst44 The bail on a spinning reel is not really necessary. Its only purpose is to take the line off the line roller and then to put it back on. You can perform both those functions by hand -- in fact, there are bail-less spinning reels. I don't buy the argument that today's reels will be damaged by letting the bail close manually, though, and reels are inexpensive anyway, and parts are readily available too.
@@robertbrandywine reels are inexpensive? Dude as a teen on a budget, I like to protect my investments ( shimano saragose, penn battle 2, penn pursuit 3, and I even take care of my abu Garcia silver max 40) I like to make equipment last, more money in my savings account towards a truck.
Another great video Joshua. I use both bait cast and spinning reels. I prefer bait cast reels when I need more accuracy when fishing around docks or shoreline cover. Using the thumb to control distance is much better. I use spinning when accuracy isn't as critical, for example when fan casting a flat and searching for fish. As you mentioned, you can cast much further with a spinning reel than a bait cast allowing you to cover more water.
I recently tried a baitcaster that was given to me and was right hand retrieve. Now even though I'm right handed I'm so used to fishing with the rod in my dominant hand. But I loved the baitcaster so much I just ordered a left hand retrieve reel. It just feels much more natural. Think it's just from growing up with spinning reels. And I know alot of guys reel with their dominant hand but I don't like working the lures and setting the hook with my off hand.
I am with you bro, i am right handed but i use lefthanded baitcaster. Mabey its cause i grew up with spinning gear but its also unnatural feeling for me to not use my dominant hand to control the rod. I also find it so weird right handed baitcaster users will cast using their right hand only to have to switch it to the left to start retrieving. But whatevers clever i guess
@@instantjizz I'm with you brotha! Same as me. It feels so unnatural after growing up working the rod and bait with my dominant hand. I got my new left hand retrieve and feels so much better! Good luck buddy!
correct me if im wrong, but regarding baitcasters, what i dont like is that you have to adjust the spool tension almost every time you change a lure of a different weight, and maybe that (and rod specs) is why bass anglers carry a lot of outfits in their boats? and with spinners, the line twist is not an issue when using braid since it absorbs most of it, but if you are over spooled, you get wind knots.. and with mono, you wont get wind knots but youll get a lot of line twist
You should adjust it but you really don;t have to once you get familiar with the reel. I make minute adjustments but yes, that is one of the reasons bass fisherman have so many rods, that and the type of fishing they are doing.
once you use a baitcaster for long enough adjusting the tension knob takes seconds and is not the reason people have a lot of combos. the reason for having so many combos depends on the fishing your doing (mainly bass anglers) if im using a crank bait id like a reel with a 5:3:1 gear ratio 12lb floro and a longer 7'2 Medium Heavy rod. but trying to use the setup i listed above for frog fishing wouldn't work. when i frog fish the setup i would use is (7'6 Extra Heavy, 7:1:1 gear ratio, and 65lb braid) its not that they dont like adjusting the reel every time, its that each setup has a specific job. if you have any questions feel free to DM me.
Is what ever someone likes to use even a push button reel is for big fish. I got all three but the open spinning reel is my favorite. But I use them all small 4 inch one ounce fish to big 30 lbs catfish or carp. What a good video on this 👊🏼
Enjoyed watching the video, very well done. Now it is time for me go wade fishing and try to catch a Snook or two wade fishing the flats. The Stradic ci4+ is my favorite spinning reel to use on the flats. It is so light, it makes it very enjoyable to throw jigs all day.
I hate to say this because I truly love the baitcaster and have used it for years but looking at it pros and cons I find very little benefit of it over a spinning reel. I've been using them for about 4 years and only learned how to use them due to seeing friends and family use them and have trouble with them. I enjoy all aspects of fishing and I took it as a challenge to learn how to properly use the reel. I would say the main benefit of the baitcaster is the ability to thumb the spool mid flight for those perfect shots. However I can do this exact same thing with a spinning reel I have no problem putting hand slightly over the spool on a cast to land it where I want it to (with accuracy). On top of that I'm good at just chucking it to where I want it to land on the fall by itself. I may get one birds nest every 6 hours of fishing and still to this day have never had a serious birds nest. In fact the worst birds nest I've ever gotten was when re-spooling the real because I failed to properly tighten my bread line on the spool causing it to free spin while reeling under load. I love fishing as I enjoy challenges I was primarily a live bait fishermen as a kid but moved away from using my tried and true fishing techniques because I felt anyone could get bites with live baits therefore it was no challenge so I taught myself how to fish on the same level as people who use live bait and out fish them in some cases. I've had days where my friends would bring a bucket of shiners and a thing of worms maybe catch one bass and a few bluegills while I'm getting a bass every few casts. I see fishing as a sport and I take pride in that so please don't take it as offense when I say the baitcaster has little positives. Everything the bait caster can do a spinning reel can as well. The spinning reel offers better range at all line sizes. You can easily skip with it (and while this can be done well on a baitcaster its more of an advanced skill technique). The spinner can be cast against the wind will little worry or trouble as well. Don't get me wrong I own 3 bait casters and I love them but for finesse you can't beat a light lined spinner. I use my baitcasters for heavy line (not because they offer any benefits) but they do not suffer much disadvantage. I believe fishing is a skill, I do not fish to see which lures or combos work best because at the heart I believe it is the fishermen's skills that make the most difference.
Spinning reels are also cheaper. A $30 spinning reel is totally sufficient and will perform just fine and will catch just as much fish as a $200 reel. A cheap baitcaster on the other hand, will just give you backlashes, poor casting distance, and a non pleasurable fishing experience.
About $60. I'm not the biggest into baitcasters, but it seems if its not quality and has good adjustments then it will not perform sufficient and give backlashes.
Dude as a saltwater fisherman using spinning reel all my life ! you have really open up my eyes . my only question .is there a specific baitcaster made for saltwater ? and what company, make and model ? thanks for everything you shared ! THE BEST DEMO AND COMMUNICATION SKILLS SO FAR !
For beginners if they want to try, I suggest to buy reasonable expensive bait caster like Abu Garcia, Shimano. For spinning reel they can start with the cheap one. Otherwise beginners with cheap bait caster is a recipe of smashing fishing rods. I have seen plenty of times kids breaking the rods and dumping bait caster in the river. It’s not fun at all to have bird ness and adjusting the reel especially for the beginners.
Good information! I personally grew up with and therefore prefer spinning reel. For better than a decade I used a diawa millionaire bait caster but ONLY with live or cut bait: the key being HEAVIER so it was simple. Now I’m interested in throwing all the light stuff with a bait caster as efficiently as a spinning. When I fish a spinning (or 2 or 3) setup will always be mandatory. I’ll set that backlash shit down and keep fishing! Lol Thank you
I started with spinning reels and bought a cheap 40 dollar baitcaster. It wasnt too hard to use but I kept going back to the spinning reel. Then I started buying 80, 100, and 200 dollar bait casters and now I'm hooked. You really cant decide you dont like bait casters until you practice on a higher quality one. Now I'm using a dc reel and it is the best thing ever.
@@julesl6910 I bought some 40 dollar shimano spinning reels and went back to loving spinning reels. Still haven't bought an expensive one but I am in love with these cheaper models. So nice. It really does depend on the bait for me but since using a spinning reel more I've moved to more finesse style fishing.
For the past few years I used a Zebco 33 Black and didn't have any real issues but decided to get a baitcaster and went with the Lew's Mach II combo with 12# Stren mono which I absolutely love and have enjoyed the struggle of learning how to cast without bird nesting but after watching this video, I believe I could use a Lew's American Hero spinning combo with a 6-8# line on it for certain situations where the baitcaster may be a little more difficult. I really appreciate this video and have subscribed to your channel now. I'll watch the "How to tune your baitcaster" video next and see if what I've been correlates with your advice.
Instead of debating. Get both) I recently got into fishing. And I use baitcaster 80%. Only use spinning reel is when I use bobbler or something super light
2:15 I’ve never considered that one of the most important points for using a spinning reel over a baitcaster is hearing the adrenaline-inducing drag being pulled from a spinning reel. It’s probably because I make a buzzing sound effect when using my baitcaster.
(If you cast with your right hand) You can actually “feather” the line on a spinning reel by lightly touching the lip of the spool with just the first finger on your casting hand while the lure is in the air. The line will squeeze between the lip of the spool and your first finger and then you simply vary the pressure.
That's good advice, and I would add that if that feels a little awkward (I have small hands and with larger reels it's not easy for me to do what you describe and still have good control), you can use the fingers of your free hand, instead. Also, my older reels spooled the line in the opposite direction of what new reels do, but even in that case the method you describe works fine for a right-hander. That means that your method will work on modern reels for left-handed casters too, even though intuitively you might not expect that.
That being said...spinning reel with correct amount of line and correct pole is the best rig for pond lake and river when using top water lures where you cast over and over.
I started with a zebco 33 button push and at age 6 was the bait caster the the spin cast then the fly rod but with my normal gear is one spin cast and two bait casters
I've found that if you rotate your wrist inside ( toward your thumb) during the cast with a bait caster, you help eliminate birds nest by 50% . Works for either hand .
I have almost entirely changed from spinning to baitcasting reels. More versatile, better precision and definitely longer casts for whatever it's worth. Yes, they take a little getting used to but when getting the hang of it it's so much more fun. Besides that, they take a lot less space in the boat. I can't remember when I had to use the scissors to cut a birds nest.
Christopher Arnott Still try it out. It's not bad if you set the reel up correctly and leave it set that way until you learn how to make correct adjustments. I love my spinning reels. I carry 2 spinners and 1 bait caster at all times. My spinners don't get used much anymore though. My baitcaster is smooth as butter and affordable.
A lot of people also experience issues with bait casters because they put them on spinning rod. 100% Backlash every time if you put a bait caster on a spinning rod.
Regarding clicker drag, i think some really high end baitcasters are now incorporating that into their reels, but its not as much of a standard for all baitcasters yet, btw i like the ease of use of spinning, a good spinning setup goes a long way for me, anyways love this video josh!
I'm fairly new. I just bought a casting reel. Can you suggest the line I should buy? I will be fishing for catfish, crappie and bass. Please suggest. BTW, I enjoyed your explanation on the difference in spinning and casting reels. Thank you
I bought an abu Garcia black max for 49.99 in a combo at cabellas to try out a bait caster. I freaking love it. I bank fish a lot of lakes that are tight with out of growth or downed trees. I like that I can stop my cast where I want on target and have minimized my hang ups in trees
It’s not the best but for the value it’s a nice reel. I’m looking at higher priced options. Playing with some 100 to 200 range and they do feel smoother and more refined. But I won’t catch more fish for another 100 dollars
When you start talking more money it's now about the refine feel, I enjoy the feeling of a well balanced, smooth reel. It's like holding art that is functional.
I learned to fish with a baitcaster, but switched to spinning rods because that’s what my dad liked. Now that I’m grown up, I’m gonna get a nice baitcaster and see which one is prefer
Im in the middle of my transition from spinning reels to bait casters i still keep spinning reels on my boat for lighter lures like a trick worm without any weight or even when i use a Texas rig with a lighter weight
I only use spin even though i been fishing for years i dislike over heads fullstop, i see the great ability but have exelent control with spin its all about the feel and the flex in the rod to know when to let go regardless of what reel you are casting
Several things can determine. Someone might say normally to use your spinning rod for more finesse techniques, but I can say if you shore fish, there's always a location it's easier to cast one than the other. For example you may be better casting a baitcaster (since you normally cast them sidearm) if you shore fish with trees with low hanging branches. Meanwhile, if you are shore fishing on a downward slope, it's possible your bait may hit the ground casting sidearm. All sorts of different scenarios like that I've ran into.
Imagine a pro who doesn’t like baitcasters, I prefer the spinner but they both work very well, but this guy made this whole bait caster vs spinner very well and it is all true
both reels require you to put the line on correctly. might do a simple video on the proper way to put line on the reels. If the line twists when you put it on the reel, you will have nothing but headaches trying to cast them.
Hey Joshua ,Great content but you missed a big plus for bait-casters , the ability to go freespool anytime and reengage really quickly,We fish here from the shore into sharp rocks for GT, Groupers Mangrove snappers etc, they would cut you off in an instance by running through the rocks, we just put the baitcaster on free spool as soon as we feel the "line rub" and re-engage when we have a better angle / no line rub This technique has now allowed us to land bigger fish which we used to consider impossible to land when we used to use spinning gear.
I love both reels, I lean towards the spinners because I can throw them up wind, down wind, side wind, cross wind, super wind, and hell wind😂😂 nothing like bouncing a swim bait off the bottom with a casting reel though!
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I finally bought a baitcaster after using spinning reels for years. At this point the only advantage I see so far is that I don't have to flip the bail anymore to cast. Also it looks really cool. That's about it.
Well that is an advantage. It seems way faster. So for sporting it makes sense. Faster means more casts. More fish.
That, and line twist was always an issue for me. Line twist actually drives me freekin nuts!!!!!!
@@Christopherjamesmurphy21 more time to untangle your birds nest....
Spinning reels all day if it ain't broke dont fix it, ive caught tons of bass and multi species fresh and salt and my accuracy is phenomenal and the best part no birdnest
I have to agree with you I also can cast very well with both i rather use the spinning now with the new lines they have come out with you can cast as if you were using a bait caster and never touch the line except to cast just draw back at 12:00 let it go about 1/4 after and you are their !!!!!
Every now and then, you're still going to have a mess of line with a spinning reel, especially if you're using mono.
I saw a gentleman use a bait caster at a show, dropped a plastic into another mans pocket over 50 feet away....unbelievable
Sick!
Hey Josh, great info on both reels. I turned 62 this year and never used a baitcaster but one time and that was enough. But i decided late last season to give it another try and today I would not be caught own the water without both these reels. Thanks, It's nerver to late to learn.
You are correct, never too late to learn. Glad yo gave it another try.
Thank you Josh! I’m trying to get into fishing and no one really has given me information like you have today. Thank you and I most likely will start with a spinning one and then go onto the bait caster. I now know what the difference is in terms of use for it.
I wouldn’t bother switching. Spinning reels cast further and your better off learning to cats accurately with a spinning reel. Saves a lot of money and headaches
A spincast for starters😁
I'm finally giving baitcaster a chance and I have to say, I'm really enjoying the mechanics of it. Once you get the hang of it, it feels so much more smoother to operate and pleasure to fish with. Of course, when the weather is not good, I use the spinning reel as it can be cast against wind and easier for certain techniques.
after buying a baitcaster and using it for 6 months i would say a spinning reel is for me
can you tell me why they change?
Apozki same here , bought a baitcaster from shimano , used it for about 4 months .. hate the thing ... back to spinning reels for me
I used to use a spinning but i like challanging my self and due to my adhd tendencys, i like fine tuning the reels and practicing with them, slowly easying of the settings and getting closer to that free spool state. Casting far with one feels so satisfiying. I also would like to mention i dont live super close to a lake but i love fishing so if i am really in a fishing mood i can take a bait caster into the back yard and just practice casting. Since you can't be careless while casting them it forces me to pay attention and focus on not birds nesting. Due to the adhd, fiddling with things is something i am always doing and just using the baitcaster can be fun for me as it is something i can work at getting better with.
I do use both reels though, the bait caster is just more fun for me. I switch to spinner when i'm in the mood to not think about anything and just chill.
Price of bait caster reels make a big difference I heard. Baitcaster is just so satisfying casting and controlling fish for some reason for me
Same. I use my baitcaster for topwater lures but that’s it
I watched how to use baitcaster from this channel around 3 or 4 years ago. Now im not only using it but I able to tune my baitcaster inside out by myself. Thanks josh !
Just watching the intro makes me feel like I really don’t take care of my gear haha. Everything had nice little covers on them
I look at everything as an investment. ;)
my gear got hard covers and shells
Yea mine just sits in a back patch that is not even made for fishing but it gets the job done
@@speed_walking2145 all of mine is in tackle boxes but some
Of it is crammed into the same slot. Definitely makes it hard to find stuff.
I use my spinner for soft bait. I use my casters for everything else. That’s why I carry both!
Throwing heavier baits for bass and pike... baitcaster... jigging and finess lures.... spinning.
You can also slow the line speed on a spinner by touching the line itself a little further up the rod from the reel itself
Good info for some one thinking to go with a bait caster after 30 yrs of a spinner. Great vid! Like how you kept it simple and informative with out really picking sides.
I’m 13 and all my life I fished and it’s cool to see the function of the reels I used and still use
Starting this hobby and this is the only video for better explanation of both types of methods thumbs up
+Tamour Tahir Thank you
I switched to spinning after I saw a video of how to clean a baitcaster. And also, spinning reels have cooler design than baitcasters, imo.
Did anyone else see the fish jump!!??
Brenton D same i saw that and was like what??😂
I wasn't sure if it was a fish or someone casting but after watching it was def a fish jumping
fish jump at 4:45. cool
I had to watch it back to see.
Dude, why you keep talking and not to start casting after hear that water splash? I think naturaly when angler hear or see fish jump, they will start to throw some cast immedietly.
The great thing about fishing is you can use both! You don’t have to chose one or the other! Just got my first baitcaster yesterday and I love it! I’ve only fished for about a year seriously but I made some money and bought a abu garcia Revo X combo! It’s amazing
Great video. Basically it tells me to develop my skills with a spinning rod and pick up the bait caster later. I haven't fished in 40 years and starting over again. Thanks Joshua.
The technology for bait caster reels has dramatically increased. I learned to cast with penn 209 with 20lb mono as kid. Your thumb did everything. Once tuned I can cast a modern bait caster as for as I can with spinning reel with weights light as 18th oz.
Been using spin casters my whole life with pinpoint accuracy. Close the bail instead of touching the line. Learn fast fishing rivers and creeks where a longer than expected cast wraps up or snagged in a tree, beaver lodge etc.
great info and loved your 'flow' ...felt just right (not too fast or slow). ..thank you!
Thank you for this video I like to use 25pund fishing line my shaksper medium action tiger 7 spinning combo and it works great for me I love going fishing🎣 and I love seeing your great amazing tips and and fishing videos my friend
Bought a Lew’s baitcaster yesterday and I love it as a person who has been using a spinning rod for 5 years I love my baitcaster already
It took me awhile to get used to my baitcaster but I'm finally getting the hang of it I like your video very much Bob Elkhart Indiana
Even the small bait casters have a powerful retrieve. Spinning reels require less concentration on equipment during the cast.
I like the powerful retrieve of a baitcaster, but I can concentrate on bait placement / action easier using a spinning reel. I have 2 bait casters and 2 spinning rigs. I use the spinning rigs more often.
Great basic info...been trying to decide between the two, now I have more info. Thanks!
I was raised fishing my whole life with closed faced push button reels after recently getting frustrated with blowing the drag on 3 of them in a month I bought a spinning reel and everybody thought I was crazy until they saw how it casts can’t wait to see their faces when I get my baitcaster
Sounds good, you will like the bait caster once you get the hang of it.
Really good video I really like the detail u gave on the good and bad about both.
Thank you
might also mention the practice of closing the bail after the cast instead of using the crank to do it.
PennSt44 Pete you can damage your reel when dont close it by hand
@@Pennst44
Closing the bail by cranking will typically cause line twist. If the bail is not flipped back into the same position it was in when you flipped it out, then it will start winding the line onto the spool differently than how it came off.
@@Pennst44 The bail on a spinning reel is not really necessary. Its only purpose is to take the line off the line roller and then to put it back on. You can perform both those functions by hand -- in fact, there are bail-less spinning reels. I don't buy the argument that today's reels will be damaged by letting the bail close manually, though, and reels are inexpensive anyway, and parts are readily available too.
Have never crank to close the bail. Close manually
@@robertbrandywine reels are inexpensive? Dude as a teen on a budget, I like to protect my investments ( shimano saragose, penn battle 2, penn pursuit 3, and I even take care of my abu Garcia silver max 40) I like to make equipment last, more money in my savings account towards a truck.
Another great video Joshua. I use both bait cast and spinning reels. I prefer bait cast reels when I need more accuracy when fishing around docks or shoreline cover. Using the thumb to control distance is much better. I use spinning when accuracy isn't as critical, for example when fan casting a flat and searching for fish. As you mentioned, you can cast much further with a spinning reel than a bait cast allowing you to cover more water.
Yes sir, I truly think there is a need for both and I enjoy using both. Thanks for the comment.
I know someone who has never got a birds nest. But he never fished a day in his life
That is about the only way to never experience one lol.
Joshua Taylor lol
Somalian pirate? Fisher without a fishing gear? )
Seriously. Lol
You need to fish with weed you need good weed cus fishing is boring.
I just bought my first bait caster haven't got to try it out yet your video have been very helpful
A strong wind will mess up your reel😁
How'd it go for you?
Man I love how well you explain everything! Great video and you got yourself a new subscriber!
Thanks Joseph and welcome aboard!
Very informative! Thank you for your insights! Always a treat watching people talk about what they love 👌
I recently tried a baitcaster that was given to me and was right hand retrieve. Now even though I'm right handed I'm so used to fishing with the rod in my dominant hand. But I loved the baitcaster so much I just ordered a left hand retrieve reel. It just feels much more natural. Think it's just from growing up with spinning reels. And I know alot of guys reel with their dominant hand but I don't like working the lures and setting the hook with my off hand.
I am with you bro, i am right handed but i use lefthanded baitcaster. Mabey its cause i grew up with spinning gear but its also unnatural feeling for me to not use my dominant hand to control the rod. I also find it so weird right handed baitcaster users will cast using their right hand only to have to switch it to the left to start retrieving. But whatevers clever i guess
@@instantjizz I'm with you brotha! Same as me. It feels so unnatural after growing up working the rod and bait with my dominant hand. I got my new left hand retrieve and feels so much better! Good luck buddy!
correct me if im wrong, but regarding baitcasters, what i dont like is that you have to adjust the spool tension almost every time you change a lure of a different weight, and maybe that (and rod specs) is why bass anglers carry a lot of outfits in their boats?
and with spinners, the line twist is not an issue when using braid since it absorbs most of it, but if you are over spooled, you get wind knots.. and with mono, you wont get wind knots but youll get a lot of line twist
You should adjust it but you really don;t have to once you get familiar with the reel. I make minute adjustments but yes, that is one of the reasons bass fisherman have so many rods, that and the type of fishing they are doing.
once you use a baitcaster for long enough adjusting the tension knob takes seconds and is not the reason people have a lot of combos. the reason for having so many combos depends on the fishing your doing (mainly bass anglers) if im using a crank bait id like a reel with a 5:3:1 gear ratio 12lb floro and a longer 7'2 Medium Heavy rod. but trying to use the setup i listed above for frog fishing wouldn't work. when i frog fish the setup i would use is (7'6 Extra Heavy, 7:1:1 gear ratio, and 65lb braid) its not that they dont like adjusting the reel every time, its that each setup has a specific job. if you have any questions feel free to DM me.
4:45min fish jumps out of the water 😂
Is what ever someone likes to use even a push button reel is for big fish. I got all three but the open spinning reel is my favorite. But I use them all small 4 inch one ounce fish to big 30 lbs catfish or carp. What a good video on this 👊🏼
Thanks, brother.
Very good. You don't waste time. I learned mucho.
Thanks John, I try not to.
Great starter video and a good explanation of the differences between the two reel systems, great job!
Atleast i know that nothing really is better... It just depends on the skills and preferences of the user... Thanks for the nice vids...
Nope, they are equally capable and you're welcome.
Enjoyed watching the video, very well done. Now it is time for me go wade fishing and try to catch a Snook or two wade fishing the flats. The Stradic ci4+ is my favorite spinning reel to use on the flats. It is so light, it makes it very enjoyable to throw jigs all day.
Thanks Dennis, the stradics are a great choice for artificial for sure.
I personally like baitcasters better. I've gotten to the point to only use baitcasters. Great video
Flubby EJ Thanks flubby, I definitely like both.
Love your attitude man following!
I hate to say this because I truly love the baitcaster and have used it for years but looking at it pros and cons I find very little benefit of it over a spinning reel.
I've been using them for about 4 years and only learned how to use them due to seeing friends and family use them and have trouble with them.
I enjoy all aspects of fishing and I took it as a challenge to learn how to properly use the reel.
I would say the main benefit of the baitcaster is the ability to thumb the spool mid flight for those perfect shots.
However I can do this exact same thing with a spinning reel I have no problem putting hand slightly over the spool on a cast to land it where I want it to (with accuracy).
On top of that I'm good at just chucking it to where I want it to land on the fall by itself.
I may get one birds nest every 6 hours of fishing and still to this day have never had a serious birds nest. In fact the worst birds nest I've ever gotten was when re-spooling the real because I failed to properly tighten my bread line on the spool causing it to free spin while reeling under load.
I love fishing as I enjoy challenges I was primarily a live bait fishermen as a kid but moved away from using my tried and true fishing techniques because I felt anyone could get bites with live baits therefore it was no challenge so I taught myself how to fish on the same level as people who use live bait and out fish them in some cases.
I've had days where my friends would bring a bucket of shiners and a thing of worms maybe catch one bass and a few bluegills while I'm getting a bass every few casts.
I see fishing as a sport and I take pride in that so please don't take it as offense when I say the baitcaster has little positives. Everything the bait caster can do a spinning reel can as well.
The spinning reel offers better range at all line sizes. You can easily skip with it (and while this can be done well on a baitcaster its more of an advanced skill technique).
The spinner can be cast against the wind will little worry or trouble as well.
Don't get me wrong I own 3 bait casters and I love them but for finesse you can't beat a light lined spinner.
I use my baitcasters for heavy line (not because they offer any benefits) but they do not suffer much disadvantage.
I believe fishing is a skill, I do not fish to see which lures or combos work best because at the heart I believe it is the fishermen's skills that make the most difference.
Started with a spinner. Now I'm into baitcasters... I like to challenge myself. Never stop learning
tay420 same now I just use an arrow
Just learned how to use a bait caster today I’ve been using a spinner reel I’m 12
MyOtherAccount it casted a lot smoother so yeah pretty good
I love what you said about the spincaster baitcaster That it's a personal choice
Nice white lightning rod you always have the best dear I am definitely a firm believer of quality equipment on the water☝️💥💥💣
If you are passionate about it and fish as much as I do, I recommend investing in top notch gear. You will be thankful later.
Thanks for tips - I’m fishing always with rods but was curious about all this thing baitcasting!
P.S. bass was jumping on your left!😉
4:46 - Fish looking for attention
They have to get their camera time!
LOL cool
I use both depending on what I'm fishing for, definitely another great video buddy!
Thanks Robert!
I like both, and own both . I even have a few old spincast that I like .
Spinning reels are also cheaper. A $30 spinning reel is totally sufficient and will perform just fine and will catch just as much fish as a $200 reel. A cheap baitcaster on the other hand, will just give you backlashes, poor casting distance, and a non pleasurable fishing experience.
Whatever works for you, you don't need a $300 reel to catch fish. Thanks for watching.
Jedhaase at what price is a cheap baitcast reel to you
About $60. I'm not the biggest into baitcasters, but it seems if its not quality and has good adjustments then it will not perform sufficient and give backlashes.
Brandon F at around 60 bucks is when you can get a decent one anything under is trash
Brandon F - try an Abu Garcia black max for 40$ good quality right there
Dude as a saltwater fisherman using spinning reel all my life ! you have really open up my eyes . my only question .is there a specific baitcaster made for saltwater ? and what company, make and model ? thanks for everything you shared ! THE BEST DEMO AND COMMUNICATION SKILLS SO FAR !
+Gary manigault Sr Checkout 13 Fishing especially the concept TX. Man that is a great reel.
When it’s windy I curse the hell out of my baitcaster and envy spinning gear users lol. I keep both with me when I go fishing now.
It's definitely not a bad idea to have both with you.
For beginners if they want to try, I suggest to buy reasonable expensive bait caster like Abu Garcia, Shimano. For spinning reel they can start with the cheap one. Otherwise beginners with cheap bait caster is a recipe of smashing fishing rods. I have seen plenty of times kids breaking the rods and dumping bait caster in the river. It’s not fun at all to have bird ness and adjusting the reel especially for the beginners.
I like simple and easy. Spinning reels are the ones for me, but I do like the way baitcasters work.
I don't like sitting there waiting for fish to bite so I'm thinking of getting a bait caster thanks for explaining everything
Good information! I personally grew up with and therefore prefer spinning reel. For better than a decade I used a diawa millionaire bait caster but ONLY with live or cut bait: the key being HEAVIER so it was simple. Now I’m interested in throwing all the light stuff with a bait caster as efficiently as a spinning. When I fish a spinning (or 2 or 3) setup will always be mandatory. I’ll set that backlash shit down and keep fishing! Lol Thank you
I started with spinning reels and bought a cheap 40 dollar baitcaster. It wasnt too hard to use but I kept going back to the spinning reel. Then I started buying 80, 100, and 200 dollar bait casters and now I'm hooked. You really cant decide you dont like bait casters until you practice on a higher quality one. Now I'm using a dc reel and it is the best thing ever.
Buy a 200 dollar spinning Shimano reel and you'll regret ever wasting your time with baitcasters
@@julesl6910 I bought some 40 dollar shimano spinning reels and went back to loving spinning reels. Still haven't bought an expensive one but I am in love with these cheaper models. So nice. It really does depend on the bait for me but since using a spinning reel more I've moved to more finesse style fishing.
For the past few years I used a Zebco 33 Black and didn't have any real issues but decided to get a baitcaster and went with the Lew's Mach II combo with 12# Stren mono which I absolutely love and have enjoyed the struggle of learning how to cast without bird nesting but after watching this video, I believe I could use a Lew's American Hero spinning combo with a 6-8# line on it for certain situations where the baitcaster may be a little more difficult.
I really appreciate this video and have subscribed to your channel now. I'll watch the "How to tune your baitcaster" video next and see if what I've been correlates with your advice.
Instead of debating. Get both) I recently got into fishing. And I use baitcaster 80%. Only use spinning reel is when I use bobbler or something super light
thanks for the tip im a beginner and i just purchased the Stella STL 4000 XGFI
Wow. Must be a rich beginner😁
I use a baitcaster for lure fishing, primarily. I use spinning set-ups on float rods and my Carp rods.
2:15 I’ve never considered that one of the most important points for using a spinning reel over a baitcaster is hearing the adrenaline-inducing drag being pulled from a spinning reel. It’s probably because I make a buzzing sound effect when using my baitcaster.
(If you cast with your right hand) You can actually “feather” the line on a spinning reel by lightly touching the lip of the spool with just the first finger on your casting hand while the lure is in the air. The line will squeeze between the lip of the spool and your first finger and then you simply vary the pressure.
That's good advice, and I would add that if that feels a little awkward (I have small hands and with larger reels it's not easy for me to do what you describe and still have good control), you can use the fingers of your free hand, instead. Also, my older reels spooled the line in the opposite direction of what new reels do, but even in that case the method you describe works fine for a right-hander. That means that your method will work on modern reels for left-handed casters too, even though intuitively you might not expect that.
I love my spinning reel over everything from experience. Bait casting is for fun, when I’m getting serious for the win, spin, spin and spin:)
Can't beat a cadence baitcaster. Affordable, 20 lb of drag, and cast like a dream.
almost all cadence, kastking, seaknight, and tsurinoya's baitcasters are cheap and decent
Or just buy a spinning reel for even less and not worry about backlash 🙂
@@knockerz3140 Spinning is all I use now. I prefer my fishing to be frustration free lol.
That being said...spinning reel with correct amount of line and correct pole is the best rig for pond lake and river when using top water lures where you cast over and over.
I started with a zebco 33 button push and at age 6 was the bait caster the the spin cast then the fly rod but with my normal gear is one spin cast and two bait casters
+Vibe Killer Nice, it's good to be versatile with your skill.
Salty Scales thanks that means a lot I might be young but I know my fishing stuff
Yep same started with the 33 then I used spinning and lately gotten an bait caster I’m getting the hang of it
I've found that if you rotate your wrist inside ( toward your thumb) during the cast with a bait caster, you help eliminate birds nest by 50% . Works for either hand .
Thanks for the tip Dan, much appreciated.
I'm kinda old school at 56 yrs old. I don't fish super often . So the spinner in different sizes for the app is for me
I have almost entirely changed from spinning to baitcasting reels. More versatile, better precision and definitely longer casts for whatever it's worth.
Yes, they take a little getting used to but when getting the hang of it it's so much more fun. Besides that, they take a lot less space in the boat.
I can't remember when I had to use the scissors to cut a birds nest.
I subscribed because I like your truck.
You just saved this rookie fisherman a lot of grief and money. Thank you!
Christopher Arnott Still try it out. It's not bad if you set the reel up correctly and leave it set that way until you learn how to make correct adjustments. I love my spinning reels. I carry 2 spinners and 1 bait caster at all times. My spinners don't get used much anymore though. My baitcaster is smooth as butter and affordable.
A lot of people also experience issues with bait casters because they put them on spinning rod. 100% Backlash every time if you put a bait caster on a spinning rod.
Probably a hard video to record especially with so many fish jumping in the background
Regarding clicker drag, i think some really high end baitcasters are now incorporating that into their reels, but its not as much of a standard for all baitcasters yet, btw i like the ease of use of spinning, a good spinning setup goes a long way for me, anyways love this video josh!
that fish jumping was awesome!
Yes it was!
I like fishing videos when nobody talks. Just real fishing.
I think we keep it as real as it can get while having fun.
I'm fairly new. I just bought a casting reel. Can you suggest the line I should buy? I will be fishing for catfish, crappie and bass. Please suggest. BTW, I enjoyed your explanation on the difference in spinning and casting reels. Thank you
65lb braid. Universal fishing line for every fish specie and prevents birdsnests from larger diameter line.
Most useful video for me
Because I am starting up
Respect from #IndoreIndia
I bought an abu Garcia black max for 49.99 in a combo at cabellas to try out a bait caster. I freaking love it. I bank fish a lot of lakes that are tight with out of growth or downed trees. I like that I can stop my cast where I want on target and have minimized my hang ups in trees
For the money, they are a great option.
It’s not the best but for the value it’s a nice reel. I’m looking at higher priced options. Playing with some 100 to 200 range and they do feel smoother and more refined. But I won’t catch more fish for another 100 dollars
When you start talking more money it's now about the refine feel, I enjoy the feeling of a well balanced, smooth reel. It's like holding art that is functional.
I learned to fish with a baitcaster, but switched to spinning rods because that’s what my dad liked. Now that I’m grown up, I’m gonna get a nice baitcaster and see which one is prefer
Im in the middle of my transition from spinning reels to bait casters i still keep spinning reels on my boat for lighter lures like a trick worm without any weight or even when i use a Texas rig with a lighter weight
I use both and I think there is definitely good reason to have both.
I only use spin even though i been fishing for years i dislike over heads fullstop, i see the great ability but have exelent control with spin its all about the feel and the flex in the rod to know when to let go regardless of what reel you are casting
Great video. This is something I have always wandered.
Thanks for watching Frank!
Joshua Taylor I have both when should I use wich
Several things can determine. Someone might say normally to use your spinning rod for more finesse techniques, but I can say if you shore fish, there's always a location it's easier to cast one than the other. For example you may be better casting a baitcaster (since you normally cast them sidearm) if you shore fish with trees with low hanging branches. Meanwhile, if you are shore fishing on a downward slope, it's possible your bait may hit the ground casting sidearm. All sorts of different scenarios like that I've ran into.
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both !!! gotta have both lol
Yes indeed!
I grow up w spinning reel. I love spinning reel more than others :)
It's all about preference, nothing wrong with a spinning setup.
Imagine a pro who doesn’t like baitcasters, I prefer the spinner but they both work very well, but this guy made this whole bait caster vs spinner very well and it is all true
both reels require you to put the line on correctly. might do a simple video on the proper way to put line on the reels. If the line twists when you put it on the reel, you will have nothing but headaches trying to cast them.
I learned to use a baitcaster before I learned to use a spinning reel
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Extremely informative video! Can you do a comparison between a Zebco an a Cane Pole?
Thanks, you never know.
Josh may I ask what brand of braided line that is. Digging that blue camo line I saw in your videos
i agree with the slip noise not beeing on a reel,bought my first reel 1 day ago takes 2-3 hours to get the hang of it buth thats also for spinning
(( spinning reel )) I use when I do my trout fishing. it's the only way I will fish & what I am use to using.
Hey Joshua ,Great content but you missed a big plus for bait-casters , the ability to go freespool anytime and reengage really quickly,We fish here from the shore into sharp rocks for GT, Groupers Mangrove snappers etc, they would cut you off in an instance by running through the rocks, we just put the baitcaster on free spool as soon as we feel the "line rub" and re-engage when we have a better angle / no line rub
This technique has now allowed us to land bigger fish which we used to consider impossible to land when we used to use spinning gear.
Definitely learned a lot from this video
Thanks Colton, glad to help.
Hello I enjoy seeing your fishing videos 🎣👍🏼 you rock 🤘🏼
Awesome thank you!
A true fisherman needs and use both. Both types of reel has there pros and cons for different applications of fishing.
30minforasn when should you use a spinning? Just curious bc I feel like bait cast has been perfect for my needs..
I love both reels, I lean towards the spinners because I can throw them up wind, down wind, side wind, cross wind, super wind, and hell wind😂😂 nothing like bouncing a swim bait off the bottom with a casting reel though!
Joshua, what kind of set up would you suggest for a first time beginner 8 year old trying to get into fishing.