The Theology of Dr. Umar Johnson | Jerome Gay

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  • @babe1love1
    @babe1love1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is SO good! I'm so glad that Pan-Africanism isn't demonized in this conversation.

  • @TalkEssence
    @TalkEssence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love to see Gay and Umar discuss this. Love it.

  • @margaretoladimeji1967
    @margaretoladimeji1967 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm so happy someone is addressing this, it's really interesting, keep up the good work Jude 3

  • @gregory2272
    @gregory2272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amen and thank you for your encouraging words and your service to our community.

  • @marquestansberry5917
    @marquestansberry5917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very balanced and insightful. Thank you!

  • @hymnodyhands
    @hymnodyhands ปีที่แล้ว

    A wonderful presentation, balanced deep in history

  • @kassd9598
    @kassd9598 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So glad I found this channel! Pastor Gay I would encourage you to do TH-cam videos, this was well needed

  • @imaallstar4eva
    @imaallstar4eva 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great channel, keep up the great work!!!

  • @lazarusfowsta
    @lazarusfowsta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to hear directly on this channel from Bro Umar on his convictions. Also, I feel that Gal. 1:6-10 is speaking of Dr. Umar and not necessarily Creflo. I understand the critiques, but I believe we see a similar critique of Jesus in Mark 14:3-9.

  • @jeromemilton
    @jeromemilton ปีที่แล้ว

    W.E.B Dubois thought Marcus Garvey was too dark to be a leader for our people,Dr.Umar points things like that out.

  • @Liya_Marie
    @Liya_Marie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting….as far as politics I’m definitely a PanAfrican in concept. I want us all to win globally. However as a believer, more messianic leaning, the hotep space that I enjoyed for the information was hypocritical in the way they alienated believers….among other issues. So I bowed out. Still very pro black but walking it out on my own.

  • @philw9787
    @philw9787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    U need get Dr Umar on here too, His greatest mentor Marcus Garvey which was a Christian. He not a Muslim or Christian but does believe in God.

  • @llandonross1372
    @llandonross1372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can be a PanAfrikan and a Christian. PanAfrikanism is a political position. I am a Ethiopian Catholic and a staunch PanAfrikan. Two two can mix

  • @chendricks850
    @chendricks850 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So glad I heard this interview.... Thank you

  • @jeromemilton
    @jeromemilton ปีที่แล้ว

    Umar like Tariq Nasheed lean more toward African spirituality,I agree with this ideology.

  • @Sophon04
    @Sophon04 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    While I am grateful for this dialogue, I feel it failed to highlight the toxicity of Johnson's message. Or maybe the takeaway is that his message isn't indeed harmful to the black and/or Christian community?

    • @comfittionsolitelight5360
      @comfittionsolitelight5360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sophia Nalty
      Your contribution is solid? Are you a 'Christian?
      These 2 should cite just 1 benefit that 'blacks' have gotten from any of the 'Christian' doctrines that were all founded by Caucasians.

    • @521talent
      @521talent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@comfittionsolitelight5360 I see why you received no response

  • @ottobyoass6202
    @ottobyoass6202 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Instead of guessing,just interview the Man!

  • @pheldonmajors2999
    @pheldonmajors2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stopped listening to Johnson because my "brown" wife should be a Black wife.

  • @nkashamasankofa1114
    @nkashamasankofa1114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait... So Dr. Umar isn't present for a discussion on "his theology?" I'll watch but I'm smelling some plantation bootlickery already...

  • @KiRetteCouture
    @KiRetteCouture 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What does race not pervade in America? It's pretty sad what race has done to the church.

  • @shareefmuhammud9736
    @shareefmuhammud9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely interview him because speaking on him is not the way to go

  • @nkashamasankofa1114
    @nkashamasankofa1114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the architects of your theology owned your ppl as slaves, just throw the whole theology away.

  • @MidActsPreacher
    @MidActsPreacher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

    • @grannysword
      @grannysword 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ,,,,,,Greetings.......
      ...***Greetings, Beloved of God. This message is lengthy but, it is very important.
      The ancient Israelite was tested by the Sabbath commandment to see if they would keep God’s law or no in Exodus 16:4-
      Do not be surprised if God allow man to do a similar test, enforce some type of Sabbath law to see if we will keep His law or no.
      ************************************************
      Right now, we all do not see eye to eye, but, please hear me out..............
      There is no way anyone can prove from the KJV Bible that Saturday, Sunday, etc. is the biblical seventh day Sabbaths. For, the words Saturday, Sunday, etc. do not appear in the Bible.
      A continuous Saturday, Sunday, etc., “man made Sabbaths” ARE NOT the true Bible Sabbaths because they are not calculated by true time. God’s true time is written in Genesis 1:14.
      When God commanded us to keep a seventh day Sabbath, kill the Passover on the 14th day of the first month, keep the day of atonement on the 10th day of the seventh month, etc......would He not have given us a calendar/Time to find these dates?
      Yes, He would have and He did, in Genesis 1:14. We are commanded to keep the days, years, etc. by the lights in heaven (the sun, moon and stars.)
      God did not specify which days, so, we must conclude that He meant for all of His 3 category of days to be kept by the lights in heaven.
      ***********
      The Sabbath command is one of the Ten Commandments listed in Exodus 20. It is just as important as the other nine and God commands us to keep it.
      Multitudes of people think and teach that we are only required to keep 9 of God’s Ten Commandments. My Friend, if we think this way, we are already deceived.
      *****************************************************************************************************************
      ***The Sabbath is a feast. Leviticus 23:1-3
      ***The moon is for seasons. Psalms 104:19
      ***The lights in heaven are for seasons, etc. Genesis 1:14
      ***The words “feast” and “season” comes from the same Hebrew word, MOED.
      ***MOED is, appointed times, appointments, feast, season, etc.
      The Sabbath is a MOED, an appointed time , a feast, a season, etc. Therefore, the moon, along with the other lights in heaven, are for Sabbaths.
      THE SABBATH IS TO BE CALCULATED BY THE TIME GOD ORDAINED IN THE BEGINNING OF CREATION NOT BY MAN’S TIME/CALENDARS.
      Who can prove from Genesis 1:14 that the Sabbath day is not calculated by the lights in heaven? Although many have tried, it cannot be refuted!!
      Take a glimpse at the dates in Genesis 7:11 and Genesis 8:4,13,14. Are these dates calculated by the Time God commanded in Genesis 1:14 or by the Gregorian time or some other man made time?
      **********
      There are about 167 countries that keep Sunday as the seventh day and the remaining, approximately, 64 countries keep Saturday as the seventh day.
      If there is a “seventh day Sunday law” enforced and the remaining 64 countries change their calendars to read Sunday as the seventh day, then, the world will be keeping Sunday the seventh day as the Sabbath.
      Mon. Tue. Wed. Thur. Fri. Sat. Sunday Law
      1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7
      What day will you and I then keep as the Sabbath?
      Already today, there are “Sunday Blue Laws” on government books.
      Man can change “their” time anytime and deceive the world under the leadership of Satan. We must calculate God’s Sabbath by God’s Time so The Great Deceiver can not trick us about the true Sabbath and “cause” us to worship him.
      “ He will think to change time and laws.” says Daniel 7:25
      He only “THOUGHT” to change time when He “supposedly” had replaced God’s calendar with his calendar on earth. For he could not and has not truly change time because God’s Time sits in the heavens where no man can tamper with it! The sun, moon and stars, the lights in heaven, are God’s Time/Calendar.
      ***********
      God’s Calendar has three category of days, the new moon day, the six work days and the Sabbath day. 2 Kings 4:18-23 & Ezekiel 46:1-3. The new moon day is the first day of the month, the beginning of months. These days never, ever, ever overlaps each other on God’s Time!
      ........However, this is not true on the famous Gregorian calendar. The new moon day falls anywhere and everywhere on that calendar, in a given month.
      For example, sometimes, the new moon day falls on a “man made Saturday Sabbath”, on a “man made Sunday Sabbath”, in the midst of the month, etc.
      How can it both be the first day of the month and the seventh day Sabbath?
      How can the first day of the month start in the midst of a month?
      God said in Genesis 1:14 to, let the lights in heaven be for days, etc.
      So, which one or ones of God’s three category of days are kept by the lights in heaven?
      ...The new moon day?
      ...The six work days?
      ...The Sabbath day?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Example of God’s months:
      1st week... new moon day, six work days and Sabbath day
      2nd, 3rd, 4th weeks....six work days and Sabbath day
      The next month the cycle starts over.
      God’s months reset. Read Luke 6:1
      Man uses this same concept. For example:
      The 1st and 3rd Sunday in August, the 1st and 3rd Sunday in September.”
      “The 2nd and 4th Sabbath in April, the 2nd and 4th Sabbath in May.”
      Note: There is never, never, ever, ever, 5 weekly Sabbaths in any one of God’s months.
      This is not true on the Gregorian calendar. Sometimes, there are 5 weekly “Gregorian Sabbaths.” This is not in align with true time.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      I believe there is a great deception coming to get people to worship Satan through a false Calendar/Sabbath controversy.
      God is a God of truth. God guides people by His truth. God’s Word is truth. Truth is our shield and buckler. Truth will keep us from all deceptions, the mark of beast, etc.
      Christ did not suffer on the cross for us to walk in a lie and continue to cling to our traditions! He did not die for us to obey the “voice of man” above “the voice of God!”
      Read the stories about “King Saul” in 1 Samuel 15 and the “man of God” in 1 king 13. Let us learn a lesson from these testimonies....Obey God’s Voice!
      When we do and teach man’s commandments for doctrine, it is vain! It is useless! God does not honor it! There will be no reward!
      Again! there is a great possibility some type of “Man made Sabbath Law” could be enforced. These latter days crises seems to be pointing in that direction. If this is not true, then, we do not have to worry about it......But.....
      ....If it is truth then, we need to become more knowledgeable about this subject in order to make the right decision whom we will honor and serve.

      A Sabbath test will reveal those who believe Gods Word and those who do not.
      Whether there is or whether there is not a “Sabbath Test”, we still need to know the truth about God’s Time written in the Word of God so we can be obedient in all things.
      ***Worship Him that made heaven, earth and sea.
      ***Babylon is fallen! Babylon is fallen!
      ***Do not worship the Beast and receive his mark, whosoever does, will be eternal lost and be burnt with fire and brimstone.
      ****Read Revelation 13 & 14
      This truth about God’s Calendar/Time and The Sabbath written in Genesis 1:14, Leviticus 23:1-3, Psalms 104:19, etc.is spreading throughout the four corners of the earth.
      This message enrages many who claim to be followers of Christ because they can not refute it. It seems, the people outside the church buildings are the ones eagerly accepting it and believing it.
      Please let us consider what is being said here and further research this important subject before it is to late.
      Peace and Love Friends of God

  • @stevengilmore8962
    @stevengilmore8962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother gay is Jesus fact or fiction before you answer study the definition of both words

  • @siriuslyspeaking9720
    @siriuslyspeaking9720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All ideologies are fringe ideologies, compared to the dominance of the value, that Black people in general. place on pop/youth culture. It is the real "opiate of the masses" that Karl Marx said religion was.

  • @lordvonmanor6915
    @lordvonmanor6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is a Black community, Black People and how the heck do you people get Pan-Africanism out of the word Black?

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be one of those lost white folks trying to understand black people.

    • @lordvonmanor6915
      @lordvonmanor6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ajunteburns6894 Or you must be one of those Mestizos (Blacks) who believes he is African.

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well Kyle@@lordvonmanor6915 weep genius, all black people are African. And being black varies across the African diaspora. The black community consist of the descendants of the Africans across the African diaspora. Being called "black" is nothing more than a racial label. Being Pan African is being pro African. Meaning your dedicated to the freedom of all black people from euro colonization built upon a system of white supremacy.
      You're welcome.

    • @lordvonmanor6915
      @lordvonmanor6915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ajunteburns6894 Buddy, let me school you real quick n dirty.
      First let me say the words African and Diaspora don't even go together. LOL, Diaspora means the dispersement of Jews from Israel therefore you only say Diaspora with no other appended words or prefixes.
      Secondly, the word Black literally means Indiens, Tri-Racial Aboriginals, Mestizos... And has nothing to do with the continent of Africa outside the Orient.
      Hence African Americans would be the Moriaan Indiens and if born in Africa they would be the Afrikaans or the Kanaka along the Indien Ocean where the slave trade took place.
      Warm regards Bantu Boy!

    • @ajunteburns6894
      @ajunteburns6894 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lord von Manor we'll see that just shows me you haven't taken any African study courses. This also shows me that you don't do your own independent research. Lastly it also shows me that you haven't even followed people who always bring up this simple terminology about "the African diaspora". People such as Dr Joy DeGruy, Dr jawanza kunjufu, Dr Cornel West, Dr Umar Johnson, Bishop and Dr Van Moody, Dr Vince Bantu, and Rev & Dr. James H Cone and so many more black Scholars use the term to refer to the descendants of the Africans. Does that discredit that the term diaspora is used for the Jews? No but it does show that there is a term that refers to the Africans across the African diaspora. Besides the Europeans Jews that migrated from the Ashkenazi and the kazars in the 13th Century those aren't the real Jews.
      A simple google search: "African Diaspora is the term commonly used to describe the mass dispersion of peoples from Africa during the Transatlantic Slave Trades, from the 1500s to the 1800s. This Diaspora took millions of people from Western and Central Africa to different regions throughout the Americas and the Caribbean."
      Here's a source: www.historians.org/publications-and-directories/perspectives-on-history/september-1998/defining-and-studying-the-modern-african-diaspora
      Also to be called an "Afrikaner" refers to the descendants of the Dutch people who tyrannical came to the continent. An "Afrikaaner" isn't a word. Maybe by commoners but it's nope a word. I wouldn't even be classified as a Afrikaner because they're racial categorisation is white. They are language for referring to the people will be considered Afrikaans .
      Simple search: "Afrikaners (Afrikaans: [afriˈkɑːnərs]) are a South African ethnic group descended from predominantly Dutch settlers first arriving at the Cape of Good Hope in the 17th and 18th centuries. They traditionally dominated South Africa's politics and commercial agricultural sector prior to 1994."
      The Terminology:
      Af·ri·kaans
      "a language of southern Africa, derived from the form of Dutch brought to the Cape by Protestant settlers in the 17th century, and an official language of South Africa.
      relating to the Afrikaner people, their way of life, or their language."
      You've been schooled, Kyle. Also I'd recommend you look up those actual Scholars because clearly you're an inept student spewing his pseudo historical doltish statements.

  • @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION
    @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not interview Dr Johnson?

    • @nkashamasankofa1114
      @nkashamasankofa1114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bc Jude 3 Project is intellectually dishonest....

  • @rudiannwildgoose-laing4629
    @rudiannwildgoose-laing4629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    😊

  • @gorgeouslady5612
    @gorgeouslady5612 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Micheal B Jordan's brother!.

  • @AliensAnonymous
    @AliensAnonymous 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you can be a racist and be a christian? Huh...

    • @eldowden
      @eldowden 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      AliensAnonymous The pastor plainly stated that every Christian has his or flaws even the well know white or black theologians in history. The truth is every person has flaws and has sin. Being a white male this video was a great help and educational.

    • @AliensAnonymous
      @AliensAnonymous 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umar Johnson is a blatant racist. He's also mentally disturbed. -- Does that help?

    • @eldowden
      @eldowden 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I may have took your first comment wrong. I was just trying to clarify that no christian becomes perfect and flawless when they put their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. A christian strives to be like the one who saved him or her from their sins. I am sure you know who I am talking about. If not, I am talking about the Lord Jesus Christ. (lol) Speaking of Jesus, C. S. Lewis once proposed a very important question that needs to be answered before a person dies. Lewis's question went something like this, "Who do you say Jesus is? Jesus is either a liar, lunatic or He is who he says he is. Jesus said "“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." I like Lewis's question because it is true we all have to wrestle with what any religious leader say. It is my prayer that you come to know the one that not only saved me, but gave me the power to live a life full of joy.

    • @AliensAnonymous
      @AliensAnonymous 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The title of the vid is "Theology of dr, Umar..." The man is an avowed racist. This Jerome Gay says Umar is a psychiatrist. That is false. Umar has severe mental problems; delusions of grandeur, the heavens have aligned for "his" calling.... Perfect? Gimme a break.

    • @eldowden
      @eldowden 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      AliensAnonymous okay I got ya.

  • @dudley1957
    @dudley1957 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please study the history of ancient history of Egypt. Just look up the definition....Soteriology. Ptolemy 1, Nicea Council, Arianism....Early Christians did not worship Christ as God.What was the first book printed and by whom? Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. Used by the merchant class to control the masses.

    • @vincentandrews6230
      @vincentandrews6230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The problem is people like Umar Johnson as well as a conscious community read books and get their information from people who have no historical references Whatsoever. The Council of Nicaea had absolutely nothing to do with creating Christianity ( which is a tremendous lie) it was around to stop Christians from being persecuted. Just look up the edict of Milan which was around before that. It’s sad people like you and so many people in the black community still push this lie that Christianity is the white man’s religion when it was in Africa over 1000 years before it even reached Europe. If anything just read the book of acts there’s so much evidence that early Christians did worship Christ it’s not even funny

    • @steezefly3441
      @steezefly3441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vincent Andrews amen brother I’ve been doing research! I’ve found so much info out there. If only people would jus do simple research! Man U don’t even gotta to much jus to the book of acts.

  • @keeper116
    @keeper116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And so here we are now in the year Jan 03, 2021▬►So say you now!!?!! LOL I still say FRAUD'ster, Scammer, Owner of Trap Bandos smh & lol Dude talks a good game, he is not a DR. he's only a doctor of his own grandiose ideas/thinking & imaginary school.

  • @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION
    @JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lord is doing something (Great) in Dr Johnson’s life..That’s was wrong ! God uses he he chooses to use..

  • @dsmrn5759
    @dsmrn5759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Misquotes, misinformation & plan ignorance. 🤦🏿

    • @nkashamasankofa1114
      @nkashamasankofa1114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jude 3 Project is good for this type of psuedo intellectual "what to do when you come across a conscious Black person" videos...