I basically have this system. It works very well, especially for the money. I met Paul Klipsch at Interlochen one summer. I asked him if he really said that what the world needed was a really good 5 Watt amplifier, he said yes! I also remember him having a pocket watch and a wrist watch :-) . He gave a very good lecture.
I do have the R-51PM with the R-120SW and I have to admit, it's great sound for everything, cellphone, movies, music, and video games ! I'm a Klipsch fan !
That's the same set up I'm getting this week. I thought maybe the 120 would be too big for my 11' x 15' office that I use to listen to vinyl, but after reading some reviews of the 120, I found that I can always turn it down and adjust volume to match the surroundings and give it an overall "complete" feel. I was going to get the r100SW but seeing that Amazon had the 120 at $298 I pulled the trigger.
How do you like the setup so far looking to get the same. Any regrets? Also how these compared to the Audioengine HD4 or HD6 or any of the A5+ ? Thanks
I like it! Great non-stop humor and substance with high production quality. Who knew that I could laugh, learn, and chew bubble gum all at the same time? Thank you!
I've been running such a 2.1 setup, and it's great for music. It's was a chore tweaking the sub crossover and toe-in to get the sound right. My setup sits low, and I found that soundstage and imaging improved dramatically with angled speaker stands to minimize the smearing that comes from the floor bounce. I'm still tempted by the aesthetics and multichannel of a soundbar system, but I'm just not a movie enthusiast.
How do you tweak the crossover for the sub or the speaker's remote so that the speakers only play the highs only and the sub takes care of the low frequencies? Thanks in advance!
@@margaritavgonzalez7877 It's a complex topic, but here goes. There's different kinds of powered subwoofers. The ones that come with a soundbar are designed to only work as a package with that soundbar. The type that can purchased separately works with most stereo loudspeakers, either through speaker cables or RCA cables. These subwoofers have at least 2 knobs: one for volume, and one for crossover. The subwoofer can be adjusted so that it fills in the bass frequencies that the main speakers can't reproduce. You usually need to purchase a AVR (audio video receiver) to make the adjustments you asked about. There's benefits to doing so, but just having a well adjusted subwoofer makes music and movies very enjoyable for a reasonable extra cost.
@@margaritavgonzalez7877 The subwoofer featured in the video does allow you to adjust the crossover frequency. There's no single setting that works with every loudspeaker system, so this provides added flexibility. And because the bass is hard to locate, you don't have to locate the subwoofer near the main speakers. I have some other favorite brands, but this KEF setup works with most rooms and ought to sound good to most people.
I have R-41PM in my living room with Norstone Stylum 3 stands. Really good speakers, i was so impressed with the sound quality so i had to order R-8SW subwoofer with those little buddies.
@@loysanpera hahha. i just ordered this subwoofer after getting second hand 41s. love them, best speakers ive listened to since my fathers stupid priced genelec monitors 10 years ago
I have the R51pm speakers with the subwoofer connected to a record player with built in amp. But I notice that the one speaker is louder than the other, I’m calling klipsxh for the warrenty to have them exchanged .
I just bought the R-51PM speakers for stronger bass and mine did actually come with an optical cable. I didn't need as I already had one coming from my TV. I did have to buy a cable for the sub though.
I really enjoyed this video. I have been a long time soundbar user who upgraded to the Elevate in October, it was really the only bar that hit all the checkboxes I needed (eARC, LPCM, DTS, Atmos) for a decent price (was $699 at sale). However the software was a complete nightmare (like your video covered). I ended up returning it, and after considering all other high end sound bars, bought a Klipsch Reference 5.1.2 setup (Costco Atmos pack, wireless 12" sub) and an AV Receiver, which was still cheaper than high end Samsung/LG/Sonos soundbars. While it sounds WAY better than the Elevate and "just works" in addition to having a ton of really cool music streaming features, the learning and setup took a lot of time and effort. Worse was the AV community, they're all hobbiests who want to amass $10k+ in speakers and don't have any good advice and really talk down on budgets less than several thousand. During all this it was near impossible to find any comparisons of high end sound bars vs low end AV systems. I think theres a big missing piece of the tech community for low end AV setups that are better than a soundbar at the same price, The money value starts to really make sense once you're comparing to the high end of soundbars. Even if you still pick the soundbar over an AV system, its good to know what alternatives there are. Would love to see more of these types of comparisons.
Now with center channel and atmos top and side the placement is certainly a thing to work out in each room but, it will absolutely destroy any soundbar
My 35 yr old stereo system is lacking bass and I just ordered this R=100SW sub to compliment my 35 yr old Pioneer VSX-5500S receiver with surround sound running a pair of equally old Boston Acoustic 3-way 12 in speakers in the front corner + old Boston Acoustic bookshelf speakers for the rear surround. New LG 55" smart TV => Mixer + mics => receiver => speakers. I didn't hook up the rear speakers until 3 days ago after I read the manual of the receiver that suggested to hook up for the rear surround sound. Questions: 1) Is my Pioneer VSX-5500S receiver outdated for using as a 5.1 surround sound? It can be used as a surround pre-amp and signal to powered speakers even though it has power 100Wx2 + 15Wx2. The remote control still works with many buttons including 3 surround sound modes & delay setting. 2) I may eventually retire the old speakers, what are my options? My family room is 15.5'W x 15'.
Once I clicked on your video I thought, " With the fall of the First Order, Ben pursued his true passion as an Audiophile ." Then I saw your reference to beskar, later the SW clip, and knew you've already heard this reference to your likeness enough times, hah! This is now the top of my list for my speaker and sub purchase. Ditching my 5.1 Samsung Sound bar. I'm not deeply familiar with Audio tweaking but have never been able to avoid whisper quiet dialogue then jarring loud sound effects and music! Did all the obvious with tv and sound bar equalizer settings. Checked and tweaked some source settings on my VLC media player as well for some content. Is there a recommendation or link to a video I can reference?? Thanks for the in-depth review!
Theoretically, just you would need to connect via phono. And make sure the amp has phono for the channel you want. Klipsch does sell passive speaker / powered sub sets
This is the way! It's awesome. It just replaced my Yamaha HS7 pair with a Pre-Sonus Sub. I used R-51PM speakers as the prices are the same for both R-41PM and R-51PM(as per the video )
I was considering getting the 1200 setup since it’s on sale, but seems they haven’t figured out software yet for it. I think that something that is reliable is better than you have to update/reconnect all the time
I just purchased the Klipsch R-51PM bookshelf speakers. What subwoofer would you recommend to pair with the R-51PM's? Would the R-100SW be sufficient or should I go for the R-120SW? Thanks in advance.
Y’all realize I’m a one man show with a toddler and a full time job - that has nothing to do with soundbars. I need to hire people. Appreciate the enthusiasm. I’m thinking of ways I want to do bigger reviews like this without killing myself.
Thx for the good review. What'd you think if I'd use the R-41PM(speaker) alone (without the sub)? Can I connect ordinary DVD player (w RCA or Optical) to the speaker? So, I'd have my music CDs played and output through the speaker. Have you tried this set-up (playing music CDs) before?
Hi I need some help, I have a home theater 5.1.2 and I have 3 options to front speakers. The R-41M, R-51M and the Jamo S426 towers. To movies what do you recommended ? I have the R-100SW Klipsch Subwoofeer.
I’m relatively new to this so I can’t honestly recommend one over the other as I don’t have any experience with Jamo. All I can say is I was really happy with Klipsch. I think they provide some of the best sound value out there.
Well there is this youtuber Jonas mathes who tells that the lg sn11rg is a bad soundbar for the price and ur opinion is absolutely oppostite so what is your reaction to it
No he does not. He says the unit does not sound great, but acceptable. From a feature and user perspective, the lg is good. He clearly said the LG is a mediocre sounding system
Well if I have to join a YT beef. Note it was a comparison video with a troubled SB (Q950T). I certainly didn’t glow over the sound - thought it was lacking a bit compared to the Samsung. I don’t think it’s necessarily worth the price but maybe dollar per dollar it’s worth more than Q950T as the experience is better, not as frustrating, more ways to get music on to the bar, supports LPCM - doesn’t cut out as much, display is on front. It’s certainly a step up from the Elevate and JBL bar 9.1 - so not surprising it costs more than them. I’d say all these soundbars are overpriced really - and budget conscious consumers should wait until they get their 30-50% price cut before buying. So tell Jonas Mathes to chew on that 🔥
Probably ordering the R41pm after I wake up then in a few weeks when I got more money I’m gonna add a REL TZero MKIII powered subwoofer. The 100 watt down firing 6.5 inch aluminum cone subwoofer should pair well with these
Don’t have them on me anymore. The only put I recall is to the other 41PM and to a subwoofer. I suppose you could split wire and have two underpowered right channels. In short really just meant to be a bookshelf pair with the one option to add a sub
Have you thought about reviewing the Klipsch The Fives? (They have HDMI-in, etc and compete somewhat in the soundbar market.) It would be interesting to see how The Fives do on their own vs with a sub.
yeah - I'll get around to it eventually unless its updated - I'm pretty sure I would like them - a sub even just a little bit can transform the sound - question is whether you value space/sqftg.
Hi does anyone know how to tweak the crossover on the sub or on the speaker's remote so that the speakers only play the highs and the sub can take care of the low frequencies? Thanks in advance!
@@neverenoughtech i have the r-51pms and the same sub in the video r100sw. When i plug the single rca sub out from the r51pm into the lfe rca in to the sub and the sub is getting signal and playing something but its no where near what it should be outputting. Do i need a y cable for the sub inputs? What am i doing wrong lol the woofers in the 51pms are beating wayyy harder than the sub on low frequency notes idk why the sub is barely working
Been watching your videos now for a week....and I still don’t know what I want. I want easy plug and play surround sound with compact speakers and a sound bar.
Powered means you plug them in and they provide their own amplification as opposed to passive speakers that require a separate amplifier or receiver. Normally speakers like these require a receiver, that is what makes these special (along with all the inputs built into the speaker)
The sub can be added to a 5.0. the speakers can’t. All are self powered so no amp requires. If you do connect the sub to an amp used RCA not speaker wire
Are the R-41PM just the powered version of the R-41M? If so, Amazon has the R-41M for only $90. I'm thinking about getting them as I have a receiver to power them
@@neverenoughtech yeah which is fine because I don't need any of those features. My receiver has them all, I'm thinking of buying these to complete my 7.2 system, currently have a 5.1
Hello, do you think that with the r41pm i can connect and run another pair of r41m without a receiver? And do u thing that i will need another pair of speaker or with those 2 I should be fine
I probably have not reviewed enough to give you the most informed opinion. I think JBL bar 9.1 probably most elegant with best Atmos effect, best sub, bar sound is not exceptional. Vizio Elevate is a reasonable choice - maybe lacks some refinement in overall sound and sub definition - got wired surrounds which is a bummer. Also can look for Samsung flagship soundbars that have a tendency to really dip in price from time to time. Maybe put a price watch on them.
Well, I do see 24 on the website. I suppose I got off track with conversations with product support. I’ll correct in the description. Appreciate the question
Im thinking in this same setup or sonos five, wich option do you think is better? Is not a very big room and I want to use for my turntable mostly, thank you in advance 😀
If you’re looking to use it mainly for a turntable and not as pieces in a bigger ecosystem I’d want to orient you towards the Klipsch due to price and Klipsch keeping it analogue which you absolutely want when playing records (maybe up it to the 51pms). If you’re if you’re to your Sonos army go Sonos.
I did to. I think all my dad’s equipment could use some cleaning and I think a dedicated preamp is probably a good idea. But overall great sound for the price.
IMHO, the edifier has extremely muddy midbass. If all you want is bass, sure, add a sub. If you want better sound quality, getting the R-41PM or R-51PM OR (relatively much more expensive) Klipsch the Fives, will be a much better option. Even without a sub. The Fives has bass that can possibly negate a sub.
I think I've decided that I'm going to return the Elevate and get a pair of RP 600M. I can than espoused my love of klipsch and argue with people on the forums
I love this video. I am thinking about this setup and adding a Klipsch R-52C, but I feel like the overall highs would be overpowering for my mostly hip-hop and 90's alt rock library. I would appreciate your opinion. I'm using a Denon avs-r5640 receiver.
This setup is not really meant to be used with a receiver save the sub. The left is meant to power the right and it can send a info to powered sub. I would recommend going R-51M if you want to go the receiver route and add a center channel. I think that would sound really good for the right price
@@atropineman3541 I went with a Janos 3.1 setup. No powered sub. It's not a perfect result with the Denon receiver. I feel like I'm always adjusting for every input, and I can't let anyone touch my setup, bu5 it works.
A beautiful video! Researching about klipsch, because I want to set up a 9.2.4 setup and not knowing which brands to choose, I come across your video.. Show 👏 Won another writing! Embrace from Brazil 🤜🤛
Hey thank you for this review! Even if im more interessted in the sub (cause i allready have good front speaker) i saw one 'Problem' while ur review :D For the best Audio Experience the Front Speaker should be on ear height. Mostly its the middle of the TV Screen :D That creates the Illusion of the center a lot better :D Especially the dynamics of the higher frequenzies are a lot better to hear :D
I was always really disappointed by soundbars, I got a Yamaha yas-107 soundbar a few years ago after much research that seemed to indicate that it was the best soundbar under $200. I was pretty unimpressed from the beginning, being new to soundbars, I was expecting much more considering their popularity. Recently I picked up the Edifier s350db 2.1 system for a mere $100 more than the Yamaha. The difference was night and day. I can't see myself ever going back to soundbars, and can't imagine why anyone would use a soundbar. Perhaps the enthusiast will prefer the receiver and 20 speakers positioned around their room, but I wanted a middleground between convenience and audio perfection. I love my s350db, can't imagine anything with a better sound:price ratio, but hey, who knows? Hope springs eternal. Which is why I find myself at this video. Especially since my girlfriend hates the subwoofer, so larger powered bookshelves minus a sub is beginning to sound more appealing. But yeah, great video, entertaining and informative.
I used that $99 Edifier PC speaker setup for a year. For the price? It's unbeatable. but I couldn't stand the power and tiny front firing port after a while, so I went for the Klipsch 51PM set. They were on sale and frankly they are in another class from these ones. They rule. Just bought a black label 12" sub from them too.
I so wanted to buy new sound this holiday season but nothing fit the bill. Just waiting for a company to come up with a solution. I’d accept: Sonos with upward firing rears Samsung without bugs/dropouts LG with better audio quality Sony to join the above 3 feature-wise None of this has yet come to pass
Hello friend, excellent video. I'm just looking to listen to 2.1-channel stereo music from my PC and turntable. I see this equipment as very convenient for my needs. please give me your opinion. thanks and greetings👌🇲🇽
I basically have this system. It works very well, especially for the money. I met Paul Klipsch at Interlochen one summer. I asked him if he really said that what the world needed was a really good 5 Watt amplifier, he said yes! I also remember him having a pocket watch and a wrist watch :-) . He gave a very good lecture.
Appreciate the share
I do have the R-51PM with the R-120SW and I have to admit, it's great sound for everything, cellphone, movies, music, and video games ! I'm a Klipsch fan !
That's the same set up I'm getting this week. I thought maybe the 120 would be too big for my 11' x 15' office that I use to listen to vinyl, but after reading some reviews of the 120, I found that I can always turn it down and adjust volume to match the surroundings and give it an overall "complete" feel. I was going to get the r100SW but seeing that Amazon had the 120 at $298 I pulled the trigger.
How do you like the setup so far looking to get the same. Any regrets? Also how these compared to the Audioengine HD4 or HD6 or any of the A5+ ? Thanks
I like it! Great non-stop humor and substance with high production quality. Who knew that I could laugh, learn, and chew bubble gum all at the same time? Thank you!
Humor is the best 👌🤣
I've been running such a 2.1 setup, and it's great for music. It's was a chore tweaking the sub crossover and toe-in to get the sound right. My setup sits low, and I found that soundstage and imaging improved dramatically with angled speaker stands to minimize the smearing that comes from the floor bounce. I'm still tempted by the aesthetics and multichannel of a soundbar system, but I'm just not a movie enthusiast.
How do you tweak the crossover for the sub or the speaker's remote so that the speakers only play the highs only and the sub takes care of the low frequencies? Thanks in advance!
@@margaritavgonzalez7877 It's a complex topic, but here goes. There's different kinds of powered subwoofers. The ones that come with a soundbar are designed to only work as a package with that soundbar. The type that can purchased separately works with most stereo loudspeakers, either through speaker cables or RCA cables. These subwoofers have at least 2 knobs: one for volume, and one for crossover. The subwoofer can be adjusted so that it fills in the bass frequencies that the main speakers can't reproduce. You usually need to purchase a AVR (audio video receiver) to make the adjustments you asked about. There's benefits to doing so, but just having a well adjusted subwoofer makes music and movies very enjoyable for a reasonable extra cost.
@@Daniel_Ho_Status_101 Thanks for replying! so there is no way to make adjustments to this kind of set up shown on this video?
@@margaritavgonzalez7877 The subwoofer featured in the video does allow you to adjust the crossover frequency. There's no single setting that works with every loudspeaker system, so this provides added flexibility. And because the bass is hard to locate, you don't have to locate the subwoofer near the main speakers. I have some other favorite brands, but this KEF setup works with most rooms and ought to sound good to most people.
@@Daniel_Ho_Status_101 oh ok I see, thanks again!
by far this is the very good video for the klipch after watching just for 3 mins.
Can I just say I watched soooo many videos before finding this one with the good advice. I really appreciate it.
Very well done review. I have this exact setup for my work / gaming PC and it’s great for music and games. Room filling sound that’s very clear.
I have R-41PM in my living room with Norstone Stylum 3 stands. Really good speakers, i was so impressed with the sound quality so i had to order R-8SW subwoofer with those little buddies.
@@loysanpera hahha. i just ordered this subwoofer after getting second hand 41s. love them, best speakers ive listened to since my fathers stupid priced genelec monitors 10 years ago
I have the R51pm speakers with the subwoofer connected to a record player with built in amp. But I notice that the one speaker is louder than the other, I’m calling klipsxh for the warrenty to have them exchanged .
I have the Klipsch R-51PM powered bookshelf speakers and R-80SWi wireless Subwoofer... I'm very satisfied with the setup.
is this want a amplifier?
I just bought the R-51PM speakers for stronger bass and mine did actually come with an optical cable. I didn't need as I already had one coming from my TV. I did have to buy a cable for the sub though.
R-41PM currently on sale for 219 USD on Amazon 😮
I didn’t know JT had such a sharp eye for a good deal
If you connect it to a PC using the USB, the remote can be used to control the PC audio.
I really enjoyed this video. I have been a long time soundbar user who upgraded to the Elevate in October, it was really the only bar that hit all the checkboxes I needed (eARC, LPCM, DTS, Atmos) for a decent price (was $699 at sale). However the software was a complete nightmare (like your video covered). I ended up returning it, and after considering all other high end sound bars, bought a Klipsch Reference 5.1.2 setup (Costco Atmos pack, wireless 12" sub) and an AV Receiver, which was still cheaper than high end Samsung/LG/Sonos soundbars. While it sounds WAY better than the Elevate and "just works" in addition to having a ton of really cool music streaming features, the learning and setup took a lot of time and effort. Worse was the AV community, they're all hobbiests who want to amass $10k+ in speakers and don't have any good advice and really talk down on budgets less than several thousand. During all this it was near impossible to find any comparisons of high end sound bars vs low end AV systems. I think theres a big missing piece of the tech community for low end AV setups that are better than a soundbar at the same price, The money value starts to really make sense once you're comparing to the high end of soundbars. Even if you still pick the soundbar over an AV system, its good to know what alternatives there are. Would love to see more of these types of comparisons.
Was hoping there was at least one of ‘you’ out there. Appreciate you reaching out. It’s encouraging.👍
I've never heard a sound bar come close to my 2 front Klipsch R-51Ms.
Now with center channel and atmos top and side the placement is certainly a thing to work out in each room but, it will absolutely destroy any soundbar
My 35 yr old stereo system is lacking bass and I just ordered this R=100SW sub to compliment my 35 yr old Pioneer VSX-5500S receiver with surround sound running a pair of equally old Boston Acoustic 3-way 12 in speakers in the front corner + old Boston Acoustic bookshelf speakers for the rear surround. New LG 55" smart TV => Mixer + mics => receiver => speakers. I didn't hook up the rear speakers until 3 days ago after I read the manual of the receiver that suggested to hook up for the rear surround sound.
Questions:
1) Is my Pioneer VSX-5500S receiver outdated for using as a 5.1 surround sound? It can be used as a surround pre-amp and signal to powered speakers even though it has power 100Wx2 + 15Wx2. The remote control still works with many buttons including 3 surround sound modes & delay setting.
2) I may eventually retire the old speakers, what are my options? My family room is 15.5'W x 15'.
Once I clicked on your video I thought, " With the fall of the First Order, Ben pursued his true passion as an Audiophile ." Then I saw your reference to beskar, later the SW clip, and knew you've already heard this reference to your likeness enough times, hah! This is now the top of my list for my speaker and sub purchase. Ditching my 5.1 Samsung Sound bar. I'm not deeply familiar with Audio tweaking but have never been able to avoid whisper quiet dialogue then jarring loud sound effects and music! Did all the obvious with tv and sound bar equalizer settings. Checked and tweaked some source settings on my VLC media player as well for some content. Is there a recommendation or link to a video I can reference?? Thanks for the in-depth review!
Appreciate the account. I don’t have any great advice for you at the moment beyond what you’ve tried
Could I upgrade this 2.1 set up to a complete 5.1 by plugging them into an amp at a later stage?
Theoretically, just you would need to connect via phono. And make sure the amp has phono for the channel you want. Klipsch does sell passive speaker / powered sub sets
I have a pair of r41pm with r12sw what’s your recommendation on setting all the buttons on the back of the subwoofer?
This is the way!
It's awesome. It just replaced my Yamaha HS7 pair with a Pre-Sonus Sub. I used R-51PM speakers as the prices are the same for both R-41PM and R-51PM(as per the video )
Would be interesting to compare this setup with the Klipsch cinema 600
I was considering getting the 1200 setup since it’s on sale, but seems they haven’t figured out software yet for it. I think that something that is reliable is better than you have to update/reconnect all the time
I just purchased the Klipsch R-51PM bookshelf speakers. What subwoofer would you recommend to pair with the R-51PM's? Would the R-100SW be sufficient or should I go for the R-120SW? Thanks in advance.
I think the R100 would do the trick. Maybe if you had two huge loudspeakers or a whole 7.1 setup you would want to go 120
I also just purchased thr r51pm and this r100 sub! Very excited to hear what this sounds like
Hey great video. Is there anyway to connect a center channel speaker for example the R 52 C in the R 41 pm, or would that be to much.
A soundsend transmitter for the speakers Never E
Also they have a center channel 34c
R 51 book shelf speakers
Can you use speaker cables with banana clips?
Could you compare the JBL bar 9.1,
Samaung q950t and bose 700🔥🔥🔥
Yeahhhhh🔥🔥🔥
Jbl for me it is an absolute beast
It gives the value for the buck
Y’all realize I’m a one man show with a toddler and a full time job - that has nothing to do with soundbars. I need to hire people. Appreciate the enthusiasm. I’m thinking of ways I want to do bigger reviews like this without killing myself.
@@neverenoughtech you need to change your channel poster to mostly soundbars(but i stray) ;-)
try cd player into rca jacks,,, do they overload'
How these speakers comparing to the Audioengine HD3 or HD4? Any recommendations whats far superior than the other? Thanks
What's that white plug that's plugged from the speaker to the sub
Out of the JBL 9.1, Sonos arc system or Samsung Q950t system, which one is the best for movies?
Samsung - but benefit is most pronounced with uncompressed audio
Thx for the good review. What'd you think if I'd use the R-41PM(speaker) alone (without the sub)? Can I connect ordinary DVD player (w RCA or Optical) to the speaker? So, I'd have my music CDs played and output through the speaker. Have you tried this set-up (playing music CDs) before?
Can the sub work with bose ultra soundbar ? Is it better then bose module 500?
Will the audio jack work with the Apple "Lossless HiRes Audio" for apple music?
Hi I need some help, I have a home theater 5.1.2 and I have 3 options to front speakers. The R-41M, R-51M and the Jamo S426 towers. To movies what do you recommended ? I have the R-100SW Klipsch Subwoofeer.
I’m relatively new to this so I can’t honestly recommend one over the other as I don’t have any experience with Jamo. All I can say is I was really happy with Klipsch. I think they provide some of the best sound value out there.
Hello, I am hesitant to choose r-51pm or 41pm. Could you explain their difference?
Identical except the 51 has a 1 inch larger woofer - gives you more volume. Same functionalities between the two.
Just slight more low midrange I think, 400-850 hz ish which is the knock or thickness of a vocal of a sound, the box part of a sound, upper warmth
So you do you need a receiver or no you use this setup?
Powered - receiver optional
Thinking about using the 41's as rear Atmos speakers.
They sound incredible on my cell phone
Hopea you are gonna test more Klipsch products for instance there soundbars .
hello, i just bought r-41pm, how can i add more and make it into 5.1 wireless system?
Well there is this youtuber
Jonas mathes who tells that the lg sn11rg is a bad soundbar for the price and ur opinion is absolutely oppostite so what is your reaction to it
I think that his peice might be a defected one maybe 🤔
@@lolgay5362 might be
No he does not. He says the unit does not sound great, but acceptable. From a feature and user perspective, the lg is good. He clearly said the LG is a mediocre sounding system
Well if I have to join a YT beef. Note it was a comparison video with a troubled SB (Q950T). I certainly didn’t glow over the sound - thought it was lacking a bit compared to the Samsung. I don’t think it’s necessarily worth the price but maybe dollar per dollar it’s worth more than Q950T as the experience is better, not as frustrating, more ways to get music on to the bar, supports LPCM - doesn’t cut out as much, display is on front. It’s certainly a step up from the Elevate and JBL bar 9.1 - so not surprising it costs more than them. I’d say all these soundbars are overpriced really - and budget conscious consumers should wait until they get their 30-50% price cut before buying. So tell Jonas Mathes to chew on that 🔥
@@neverenoughtech well thats rude
What setup is better Jamo S426 or Klipsch R41-M ?? Please help me, I have the Subwoofer R-100SW
Polk audio signature s20 or klispch r41m?
Sonos
Probably ordering the R41pm after I wake up then in a few weeks when I got more money I’m gonna add a REL TZero MKIII powered subwoofer. The 100 watt down firing 6.5 inch aluminum cone subwoofer should pair well with these
I think that’ll sound pretty rad
Hi nice vid! Thanks for the details but I have a question is it possible to add R-41M ? On 41PM directly?
Don’t have them on me anymore. The only put I recall is to the other 41PM and to a subwoofer. I suppose you could split wire and have two underpowered right channels. In short really just meant to be a bookshelf pair with the one option to add a sub
i have klipsch sixes and r-100sw sub. when i power off the sixes the sub sounds grounded.. what do you think is the problem?
I just picked up an OG Klipsch RPW10...wow slaps...
Please let me know the input Voltage
Is this a good solution for stereo listening? Small home office?
Yes. Full disclosure I have the sixes with same bass in my h/o
Have you thought about reviewing the Klipsch The Fives? (They have HDMI-in, etc and compete somewhat in the soundbar market.) It would be interesting to see how The Fives do on their own vs with a sub.
yeah - I'll get around to it eventually unless its updated - I'm pretty sure I would like them - a sub even just a little bit can transform the sound - question is whether you value space/sqftg.
Hi does anyone know how to tweak the crossover on the sub or on the speaker's remote so that the speakers only play the highs and the sub can take care of the low frequencies? Thanks in advance!
Hope you review 800 and 1200 model , and look forward to the 3d surround back speakers. Oops was supose to comment the 600 soundbar.
Would i need a receiver for this set up? Including the sub
No they are all self powered (in this setup) no extra equipment required
@@neverenoughtech i have the r-51pms and the same sub in the video r100sw. When i plug the single rca sub out from the r51pm into the lfe rca in to the sub and the sub is getting signal and playing something but its no where near what it should be outputting. Do i need a y cable for the sub inputs? What am i doing wrong lol the woofers in the 51pms are beating wayyy harder than the sub on low frequency notes idk why the sub is barely working
@jwalkrr Hi! I know this is an old thread, but was wondering if you were able to find the issue? I'm looking to buy the exact same setup
@Nic-e_N_Wub i got them and its very simple to setup and theyve worked great!.
@BATBR0 Hi! Thanks for the answer 🙂 but I was actually talking about @jwalkrr comment saying his subwoofer playing not as loud as it should be
New to current audio....when you say “powered speakers”....how are they powered and what are they powered to?
Been watching your videos now for a week....and I still don’t know what I want. I want easy plug and play surround sound with compact speakers and a sound bar.
Powered means you plug them in and they provide their own amplification as opposed to passive speakers that require a separate amplifier or receiver. Normally speakers like these require a receiver, that is what makes these special (along with all the inputs built into the speaker)
Can these speakers be connected as a 5.1 setup? Do we need a receiver?
The sub can be added to a 5.0. the speakers can’t. All are self powered so no amp requires. If you do connect the sub to an amp used RCA not speaker wire
Are the R-41PM just the powered version of the R-41M? If so, Amazon has the R-41M for only $90. I'm thinking about getting them as I have a receiver to power them
I have not listened but I imagine the sound is very similar. Other than on speaker controls, you also won’t get Bluetooth (all obvious I think)
@@neverenoughtech yeah which is fine because I don't need any of those features. My receiver has them all, I'm thinking of buying these to complete my 7.2 system, currently have a 5.1
So you're telling me....because I have the R-41's ' I should buy the r100sw?
((Serious question, I just want the fastest easy answer))
I think it’s the most logical pairing sound and price wise
Hello, do you think that with the r41pm i can connect and run another pair of r41m without a receiver? And do u thing that i will need another pair of speaker or with those 2 I should be fine
The expansion option is only to a powered sub. I think the r41pms and a subs make a good unit. If you want more than a 2.1 I’d go with other systems
Hello, apprieciate your reviews, what's your opinion on best soundbar to get under $1000??
I probably have not reviewed enough to give you the most informed opinion. I think JBL bar 9.1 probably most elegant with best Atmos effect, best sub, bar sound is not exceptional. Vizio Elevate is a reasonable choice - maybe lacks some refinement in overall sound and sub definition - got wired surrounds which is a bummer. Also can look for Samsung flagship soundbars that have a tendency to really dip in price from time to time. Maybe put a price watch on them.
You say its 16 bit, but the dac shows up as 24bit for me?
Well, I do see 24 on the website. I suppose I got off track with conversations with product support. I’ll correct in the description. Appreciate the question
Im thinking in this same setup or sonos five, wich option do you think is better? Is not a very big room and I want to use for my turntable mostly, thank you in advance 😀
If you’re looking to use it mainly for a turntable and not as pieces in a bigger ecosystem I’d want to orient you towards the Klipsch due to price and Klipsch keeping it analogue which you absolutely want when playing records (maybe up it to the 51pms). If you’re if you’re to your Sonos army go Sonos.
@@neverenoughtech thank you! I bought the same setup and rhe sound is incredible 😀
Do you need the subwoofer for them to sound good or is it optional?
Sound good by themselves - sub adds a lot
I have these speakers & sub (: for my turntable. I enjoy them.
I did to. I think all my dad’s equipment could use some cleaning and I think a dedicated preamp is probably a good idea. But overall great sound for the price.
I was thinking to buy one for my Turntable as well :)
Are these speakers good for karaoke?
NeverEnoughTech Would this sub be good with the Klipsch R-51M also?
I’d say so
hello just want to ask does pairing with subwoofer lessen bass on the speakers?i have the pm r51.
No, on the sub I tested with you can adjust the frequency cutoff but that is all on the sub side
NeverEnoughTech ok thank you..i have a follow up question regarding pm r51 it says right speaker(active)should i place it on the right side facing me?
Do you think I could connect a Logitech z-2300 subwoofer to these speakers? Have one lying around...
Sure if you have an RCA LFE connection.
This subwoofer works with the edifier 1280dbs? Somebody help me..
The sub has two rca inputs but only requires an LFE connection. Not familiar with the system you have but maybe this helps.
@@neverenoughtech the 1280dbs has sub outpot..
IMHO, the edifier has extremely muddy midbass. If all you want is bass, sure, add a sub. If you want better sound quality, getting the R-41PM or R-51PM OR (relatively much more expensive) Klipsch the Fives, will be a much better option. Even without a sub. The Fives has bass that can possibly negate a sub.
Does the PM A have BT and the M doesn't?
Only powered speakers would support direct BT connections. With passive speakers you would have to BT to the component feeding the passive speaker
still my z906 rockin these
Thank you. Hello from Russia.
How can I connect the r-41m and a r-12sw sub to a pc?
Need an amplifier/receiver combo. Connect the amp to the computer
@@neverenoughtech so I can’t connect the right speaker directly into a subwoofer with a positive-negative rca cable ?
how do you set up with r-41m?
Need a separate amplifier and coiner via speaker wire - connect sub to amp via RCA
@@neverenoughtech i am having a hard time setting up my r-41m with k3118 amp and r-100sw to connect to desktop.
I think I've decided that I'm going to return the Elevate and get a pair of RP 600M. I can than espoused my love of klipsch and argue with people on the forums
what do i need to run them?
They’re powered - plug one BS speaker in and the sub. No external amp required
I love this video. I am thinking about this setup and adding a Klipsch R-52C, but I feel like the overall highs would be overpowering for my mostly hip-hop and 90's alt rock library. I would appreciate your opinion. I'm using a Denon avs-r5640 receiver.
This setup is not really meant to be used with a receiver save the sub. The left is meant to power the right and it can send a info to powered sub. I would recommend going R-51M if you want to go the receiver route and add a center channel. I think that would sound really good for the right price
@@neverenoughtech Even taking into account the preferred music genres? Thanks again.
Instead of the powered speakers get 2 pair of the unpowered that are half the price. Add your sub and center=5.1
@@atropineman3541 I went with a Janos 3.1 setup. No powered sub. It's not a perfect result with the Denon receiver. I feel like I'm always adjusting for every input, and I can't let anyone touch my setup, bu5 it works.
These are coming in a few days, very excited. Got tired of my shit tv speakers
Think you’ll dig it
@@neverenoughtech i love them they sound great.
Please review the full 5.1 system!
I want to review larger Klipsch setups
A beautiful video! Researching about klipsch, because I want to set up a 9.2.4 setup and not knowing which brands to choose, I come across your video.. Show 👏 Won another writing! Embrace from Brazil 🤜🤛
Hey thank you for this review! Even if im more interessted in the sub (cause i allready have good front speaker) i saw one 'Problem' while ur review :D
For the best Audio Experience the Front Speaker should be on ear height. Mostly its the middle of the TV Screen :D That creates the Illusion of the center a lot better :D Especially the dynamics of the higher frequenzies are a lot better to hear :D
what is the difference between R-100sw and K-100sw? Is it worth save some money?
22:20 I’m dying 😂. I love Napoleon Dynamite!!!
Klipsch the fives vs Edifier s2000 mk3, thanks!!!!!
Gain max setting is 11? Is that a nod to Spinal Tap?
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Or a cheap reciever like the smsl da9 class d and some cheap elacs debut 5.2 with the klipsch r100sw thats my setup 800 euros
I was always really disappointed by soundbars, I got a Yamaha yas-107 soundbar a few years ago after much research that seemed to indicate that it was the best soundbar under $200. I was pretty unimpressed from the beginning, being new to soundbars, I was expecting much more considering their popularity. Recently I picked up the Edifier s350db 2.1 system for a mere $100 more than the Yamaha. The difference was night and day. I can't see myself ever going back to soundbars, and can't imagine why anyone would use a soundbar. Perhaps the enthusiast will prefer the receiver and 20 speakers positioned around their room, but I wanted a middleground between convenience and audio perfection. I love my s350db, can't imagine anything with a better sound:price ratio, but hey, who knows? Hope springs eternal. Which is why I find myself at this video. Especially since my girlfriend hates the subwoofer, so larger powered bookshelves minus a sub is beginning to sound more appealing. But yeah, great video, entertaining and informative.
I used that $99 Edifier PC speaker setup for a year. For the price? It's unbeatable. but I couldn't stand the power and tiny front firing port after a while, so I went for the Klipsch 51PM set. They were on sale and frankly they are in another class from these ones. They rule. Just bought a black label 12" sub from them too.
Been there, done that, soundbar any day.
Sorry you were mistreated
@@neverenoughtech lol
Wow! Keep it up!
we need to find this man a better microphone
Bro, sorry again but talk about the Sony ST5000 soundbar and upcoming CES 2021 soundbars
So I don't need a receiver?
The speakers and sub are self powered - so no recover/amp necessary
@@neverenoughtech ok ty
I so wanted to buy new sound this holiday season but nothing fit the bill. Just waiting for a company to come up with a solution.
I’d accept:
Sonos with upward firing rears
Samsung without bugs/dropouts
LG with better audio quality
Sony to join the above 3 feature-wise
None of this has yet come to pass
All have their failings - I think Sonos and Samsung maybe have the shortest road to greatness
Hello friend, excellent video. I'm just looking to listen to 2.1-channel stereo music from my PC and turntable. I see this equipment as very convenient for my needs. please give me your opinion. thanks and greetings👌🇲🇽
I think you’ll like these. If you want to stick with Klipsch you might also consider the 51s and The Sixes. Some idea but different woofer sizes
is this want a amplifier?
Self powered
I only steam bluetooth while it's turtling
Anyone who's into electronics or even if your not has a box full of cables. But for the price of these things they could throw one in.
Bruh you need more subs
I think so - appreciate the encouragement!
He meant subwoofer 😂😂
I have the 51s and it fucks
Oh, wait... my RCA cables are still plugged into my 8-track player.
I am buying same setup in 2024 for $328 USD.
Charming set
This is exactly what I was looking for. Although, I think I’ll get 2 subs and split the channel, like you said.
This video DID NOT help me set my priorities and IN FACT you've successfully destroyed my audio journey.
I hope you have a nice weekend
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Did I hear Transformers?