Interesting to hear the explanation of HOW they are different. The Active ones are far more "clear" as in "easy to use" because they seem to be more directly linked to what is actually happening. I've watched a ton of videos on the passive EQs and I've yet to fully grasp why they are SO popular or what really makes them shine, since for me, EQ has always been to make things "sit" better in a mix and blend things to make everything "hear-able" vs. actually changing the tone of the recorded signal. Of course, the "experts" have their way and their sound and so many know what they like and why and make great sounding recordings. Myself, I like the simpler approach of carving out landscapes of sound and do a lot of it with the Console 1 now, reducing my "analysis paralysis". Thanks for the video!
I understand where you're coming from. When I first began learning EQ, like yourself, I was purely interested in juggling frequencies, dealing with masking, eliminating mud etc. I think the fact that so many of the greatest albums in music history were made with certain hardware is at least one factor in maintaining the popularity of older analog tech with coloring character. Also so much of the vanguard in professional music production are above a certain age. Not to say these things shouldn't be sought after. js. I think in the decades to come, as younger people who grew up mixing and mastering "in the box" move up in the world, perhaps traditional analog mixing will become less prevalent. I could absolutely be completely wrong. After all, once I discovered the inimitable effects of some of these units like the SSL 9000 console or Shadow Hills etc etc, I became a nut for analog-sounding production.
Hi tim, thanks for this video I love using the focusrite passive eq, it gives a warm studio feel to my bass recordings and drum bus, for accurate and clear sounds I use studio one built in pro eq
Active EQ is better for channel eq and roll off/cuts on input, and sharpening up a track isolated if necessary, ON MIX, should be done with proper mic technique ON INPUT for durability down the line. Passive EQ is better for overall mixes, like a bus or an entire mix and mastering because the cut and boost circuits interact to create a sort of frequency dependent compression which can smooth a bandwidth section like nothing else and then there’s the kick drum low end effect, and the high end effect. Pultec made a mid band passive too, which most people don’t know how to use🤣😂❤️, works the same as the other eqp1a, just affects mids. Hope that helps.
Hi! I came here because of the explanation of passive EQ (I'm familiar with passive and active circuits for audio) thanks! However, I want to say that in an EQ, the phase shift is a consequence of the boost or the attenuation, no the opposite. Either passive or passive circuits will affect the phase relationship when dealing with frequency. I appreciated the small explanation about the pultec. Peace out!
It’s a bit confusing because in this video he’s using digital recreations of hardware, but he’s explaining it as if they are the analog versions (resistors, capacitors, inductors). So, as far as analog EQ circuits are concerned, boost/cut and phase shift aren’t consequences of each other, they’re two ways of describing the same process. Capacitors charging and discharging causes a phase shift, this new signal with shifted phase in the desired frequency band is combined with the original signal, and this results in the boost or cut. The phase shift is the mechanism through which the EQ does the EQ-ing, so if we’re getting really pedantic I think it’s safe to say he explained it correctly for these circuits. But in the digital domain, there are other ways of writing code to make EQ happen, and in general, you’re correct about the order of operations (chicken/egg?) for most plugins as far as I know, although I really only understand the analog ones.
Hey there! Sorry I'm late on asking questions, this video has been released for some time now, visibly... So, here's my question : don't both active and passive EQ induce a phase shift? If you're building a passive EQ with capacitors and inductors, shouldn't you also have some phase shifting going on? Just liked and subbed! Thanks, there!
hello, in passive , bootsing 60hz : is made by droping all other frequencies (so fell more 60hz), and then all frequency is amplified again by op amp ? so you not loose all medium , high frequency .. active eq's are using in mastering sometimes ? cheers
Interesting information, Tim, I did not know of this distinction. Thanks for a clear explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting to hear the explanation of HOW they are different. The Active ones are far more "clear" as in "easy to use" because they seem to be more directly linked to what is actually happening. I've watched a ton of videos on the passive EQs and I've yet to fully grasp why they are SO popular or what really makes them shine, since for me, EQ has always been to make things "sit" better in a mix and blend things to make everything "hear-able" vs. actually changing the tone of the recorded signal. Of course, the "experts" have their way and their sound and so many know what they like and why and make great sounding recordings. Myself, I like the simpler approach of carving out landscapes of sound and do a lot of it with the Console 1 now, reducing my "analysis paralysis". Thanks for the video!
I understand where you're coming from. When I first began learning EQ, like yourself, I was purely interested in juggling frequencies, dealing with masking, eliminating mud etc. I think the fact that so many of the greatest albums in music history were made with certain hardware is at least one factor in maintaining the popularity of older analog tech with coloring character. Also so much of the vanguard in professional music production are above a certain age. Not to say these things shouldn't be sought after. js. I think in the decades to come, as younger people who grew up mixing and mastering "in the box" move up in the world, perhaps traditional analog mixing will become less prevalent. I could absolutely be completely wrong. After all, once I discovered the inimitable effects of some of these units like the SSL 9000 console or Shadow Hills etc etc, I became a nut for analog-sounding production.
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Nice short video with good explaining, thank you!
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Hi tim, thanks for this video
I love using the focusrite passive eq, it gives a warm studio feel to my bass recordings and drum bus, for accurate and clear sounds I use studio one built in pro eq
I like to mix into a passive EQ on my master. I find active EQ's tend to be better for fixing frequency issues during mixdown.
Wow man. You have great talent at explaining stuff! Thanks
I appreciate that!
Active EQ is better for channel eq and roll off/cuts on input, and sharpening up a track isolated if necessary, ON MIX, should be done with proper mic technique ON INPUT for durability down the line.
Passive EQ is better for overall mixes, like a bus or an entire mix and mastering because the cut and boost circuits interact to create a sort of frequency dependent compression which can smooth a bandwidth section like nothing else and then there’s the kick drum low end effect, and the high end effect. Pultec made a mid band passive too, which most people don’t know how to use🤣😂❤️, works the same as the other eqp1a, just affects mids. Hope that helps.
Manley massive passive sounds so good.
Hi! I came here because of the explanation of passive EQ (I'm familiar with passive and active circuits for audio) thanks! However, I want to say that in an EQ, the phase shift is a consequence of the boost or the attenuation, no the opposite. Either passive or passive circuits will affect the phase relationship when dealing with frequency.
I appreciated the small explanation about the pultec.
Peace out!
It’s a bit confusing because in this video he’s using digital recreations of hardware, but he’s explaining it as if they are the analog versions (resistors, capacitors, inductors). So, as far as analog EQ circuits are concerned, boost/cut and phase shift aren’t consequences of each other, they’re two ways of describing the same process. Capacitors charging and discharging causes a phase shift, this new signal with shifted phase in the desired frequency band is combined with the original signal, and this results in the boost or cut. The phase shift is the mechanism through which the EQ does the EQ-ing, so if we’re getting really pedantic I think it’s safe to say he explained it correctly for these circuits. But in the digital domain, there are other ways of writing code to make EQ happen, and in general, you’re correct about the order of operations (chicken/egg?) for most plugins as far as I know, although I really only understand the analog ones.
@@anthonyleanamusic thanks for the explanation about phase shift and freq response!
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Very informative, I learned something today. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanation!!
Glad you think so!
Hey there!
Sorry I'm late on asking questions, this video has been released for some time now, visibly... So, here's my question : don't both active and passive EQ induce a phase shift? If you're building a passive EQ with capacitors and inductors, shouldn't you also have some phase shifting going on? Just liked and subbed! Thanks, there!
hello, in passive , bootsing 60hz : is made by droping all other frequencies (so fell more 60hz), and then all frequency is amplified again by op amp ? so you not loose all medium , high frequency .. active eq's are using in mastering sometimes ? cheers
Very interesting, thanks
Glad you think so!
Can you use a spectrum meter to analyze whether the EQ you've added to a channel is passive or active?
That's a great question. I'll do some research and testing to find out!
All analogue eq's induce phase shift, that includes passive.
I want to know what President of US thinks about this in case he is making beats..
Sorry but this video is loss of time, 2 sentences on a random blog that i found resume 5 minutes of waste of time.