Bragden Full Documentary WTTC Dortmund 1989 Waldner, Appelgren, Persson

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  • @formulapak
    @formulapak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I am a Chinese and I don't think it is good for the sport to be dominated by single country.
    Thanks for this great video & hope that Sweden TT team will be strong again!

    • @natjes6017
      @natjes6017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sweden are strong again right now 😁😁😁

    • @dakapo8985
      @dakapo8985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@natjes6017 Tänkte precis skriva samma :). Our engine has started. Lets see were it takes us.

    • @petertordjunehag1055
      @petertordjunehag1055 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They looked at reality as it was, made the proper analysis, and then trained to get it.
      This is what most people wont do. They did it, and its one of the most insane gold medals in the history of sports, period. 1989, Sweden, table tennis. Impossible is possible.

  • @ecke9635
    @ecke9635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Förmodligen den bästa videon på TH-cam.

  • @MarioLuniAlva
    @MarioLuniAlva ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I was 13 years of age, as I watch this on german TV. 📺 I love playing Table Tennis and I worship Jan - Ove Waldner, the Greatest of all Times. This awesome victory against China 🏓 I will never forget. 🙂 It's great that Sweden has new talented Players like Truls Möregard, he is surely the Future of European Table Tennis...but noone will ever reach to the one and only, the living Legend of this amazing sport: Jan - Ove Waldner!

    • @tommylarsson2025
      @tommylarsson2025 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Watch up for the French brothers!!

  • @shishir1969
    @shishir1969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is an amazing work of art. A piece of history. One of the finest sports documentaries ever. I cannot thank you enough Mr Tordas. Grateful.

  • @glenngastonjonsson7954
    @glenngastonjonsson7954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Amazing documentary. Love and respect to China for inviting these youngsters to improve within their system. As a Swede, I loved those years.

  • @ExpatMoe
    @ExpatMoe 10 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "Sweden had 10 full-time ping pong players. China had 2 million". Lol

  • @hangemhigh7069
    @hangemhigh7069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Det bästa sportminnet i hela mitt liv!👍❤🇸🇪

  • @lchef8814
    @lchef8814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Den mest legendariska videon må jag säga blir fascinerad varje gång jag skådar denna!
    Mvh Phillê

    • @ecke9635
      @ecke9635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sannerligen! Topp klass!

  • @Monster-gr8on
    @Monster-gr8on 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So many great players ended up in the same team was amazing and once in a lifetime

    • @johanf9279
      @johanf9279 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happened also in Tennis.

  • @filosofen
    @filosofen 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jag är fullständigt totalt ointresserad av sport, men den här dokunebtären var intressant och spännande. Rekommenderas varmt.

  • @ONEDEADLYVENOM
    @ONEDEADLYVENOM 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That was such an inspiring story of overcoming a giant obstacle. Hats of to the Swedish team and team China. I admire the rivalry, except that foul serve by the then Chinese champ:-/
    This should be made into a real movie

  • @camstudios1624
    @camstudios1624 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jag Älskar Den Här Dokumentären.
    Den Är Helt Klart Bäst.
    Svenska bordtennis Förbundet:Kalle Andreasson

  • @robertobarcelos4798
    @robertobarcelos4798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Acompanhei esta geração de gênios.
    Parabéns...

  • @1994leman
    @1994leman 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The best European Players of all time :)

  • @rogeraxarp2468
    @rogeraxarp2468 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ståpäls varenda gång jag tittar på den här videon.
    Vilka fantastiska idrottare.

  • @mhmisc65
    @mhmisc65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Detta kommer jag aldrig sluta se.

  • @scottbaker-ScottyB
    @scottbaker-ScottyB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In 1982 Largo Fl. I played Jonas Berner who had the best serves and backhand in Europe I had read. I learned the high toss serve from him and regluing TT rubber made huge advances in rubber performance which I did not get into. I used Yasaka Tornado rubber the best I thought at the time. Nice film documentary brings back memories. Thank you.

    • @thomassjonnebring
      @thomassjonnebring 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Love from Sweden/ Scandinavia!

  • @LeTDDswag
    @LeTDDswag 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beautiful, that's a really inspiring story

  • @tallvagornashus
    @tallvagornashus 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic documentry!

  • @tommylarsson2025
    @tommylarsson2025 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this documentary! I loved every minute of it!

  • @SuperHammaren
    @SuperHammaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sweden could compete with China as we were fortunate to have at least 6 great players for a long time, dont forget Ulf Bengtsson & Carlsson + Erik Lind+Peter Karlsson +Tomas von Scheele. That rivalry sharped the three more famous ones (Waldner, Jorgen och Appelgren).

  • @olaniyi570
    @olaniyi570 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the translation.

  • @EdenZq
    @EdenZq 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i still remember watching games between Swe and Chn around 1990 as a small kid. I really missed the SWE team at that time. Table tennis team matches will be of more fun if China has a real competitor.

  • @robinragnarsson9480
    @robinragnarsson9480 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honestly, Chinese tabletennis should have big props for taking the swedish players under their wings and showing them and the coaches so much from how they train, live and breath table tennis. Without it we would never have seen any of this happening. Fantastic documentary!

  • @liebestraumer
    @liebestraumer 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @klabbro
    @klabbro 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "Den idrottsprestation ni har utfört den slår nog alla de andra inklusive Carola"
    -Mona Sahlin 55:55

  • @christianwhite9583
    @christianwhite9583 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Watching Sweden finally break China domination in World Table Tennis is the reason I started playing TT. I remember in the late 80's watching training video of Waldner and Persson. I think it will be a benefit to China & Table Tennis to have another true competitor otherwise it will be as interesting as when Michael Shumacher kept winning in Ferrari- boring!

    • @hokeekeng2166
      @hokeekeng2166 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't think it is Sweden break any domination but they after dictate the game for generations to come.

  • @lars-eriklarsson395
    @lars-eriklarsson395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still remember this day,when sweden won this final after a brilliant game

  • @lockwyn
    @lockwyn 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great documentary

  • @kdgr
    @kdgr 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cool! A real TT historie.

  • @danielsvensson3611
    @danielsvensson3611 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thid is the national sport of a billion people(!!!!!)...

  • @TheQuickest
    @TheQuickest 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see this with full subtitles.

    • @cloudsmiles1
      @cloudsmiles1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let me know if there are some parts you want to be translated (I'm swedish)

  • @gunnarlarsson7885
    @gunnarlarsson7885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Då är man här och drömmer :-)

  • @Izraphel
    @Izraphel 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks so much for the first 40 minutes, but could you please make captions for the last 20 too? :(

  • @luf4rall
    @luf4rall 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    36:10 is hilarious.

  • @Gammaskalle
    @Gammaskalle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Körde vansinnigt mycket pingis som barn på dansbanan på Knarrholmen.. Brukade pracca mot en 76åring som va helt galet bra (Gunnar från 33:an ? :S). Lillebroshan och alla andra ungarna på ön med.. good times.

  • @titosarmiento8333
    @titosarmiento8333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this wonderful video i were trying to find out for years to unravel from swedish team itself to solve the fast flat short pin close to the table game of the Chinese how the topspin both back fore gave headache to the Chinese.

  • @DinoSvanhvit
    @DinoSvanhvit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mäktigt.👏

  • @mrmojorisin2595
    @mrmojorisin2595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mikael "liksom" Appelgren

  • @filipboholm6854
    @filipboholm6854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comment by Glen Östh 1:36 "Vi pratar om tio heltids spelare i Sverige, dom (China) har två miljoner" is not in the subtitles. It means "We talk about having 10 fulltime players in Sweden, they (China) have two million". Let that sink in...

  • @polskagranica
    @polskagranica 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    legends

  • @TheChristiV
    @TheChristiV 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CaptionTube can help you to assign subtitle. Thank you for the movie.

  • @oliver0615
    @oliver0615 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is waldner

  • @stalvio007
    @stalvio007 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i didn't understand anything , but it was really interesting to watch)

    • @johanf9279
      @johanf9279 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is subtitles. Click on square shaped icon.

  • @domican100
    @domican100 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With english susbtitles for my poor ignorant monolinguistic ass, this would be perhaps the most epic TT vid on you tube :(

  • @monanicka
    @monanicka ปีที่แล้ว

    Whos dominating TT now ? (2023) :)

  • @lastxp
    @lastxp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After Jiang lost to Appelgren the chinese team was severely demoralised, they were well softened.

  • @larsvontrierpung9337
    @larsvontrierpung9337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow

  • @bOOmcORNErsHOt1
    @bOOmcORNErsHOt1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come on make this a really special video with TRANSLATION..

  • @puttemacguff7666
    @puttemacguff7666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ryser :)

  • @handendaer
    @handendaer ปีที่แล้ว

    "stod i tidnigen, då måste det va sant".. ja jävlar... men bra pingisspelare är han!

  • @dinosourmekad
    @dinosourmekad ปีที่แล้ว

    For Sweden the match against S. Korea was more difficult. S. Korea had an olympic champion and olympic silver medalist in the sqaud.

  • @jaime2658780
    @jaime2658780 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some translation into english under the title of description of this video would be highly appreciated =)

  • @gdounito
    @gdounito 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    name of song @ 52:37 anyone? its a fantastic melody

  • @SuperHammaren
    @SuperHammaren 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am sorry that the great match in 2000 by Waldner and Persson won again versus China is not even mentioned.

    • @mhmisc65
      @mhmisc65 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In a sense even surpassing the 1989 achievement.

    • @ylong5697
      @ylong5697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because Sweden's victory in 1989 was systematic winning, I mean Sweden had most advanced technique in 1989, while their victory in 2000 was about personal strength.

    • @dickn.ormous1064
      @dickn.ormous1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1989 victory was the beginning of the European TT era whereas in 2000 it was like the Twilight of the Gods.Sweden had only 1,5 top players(Waldner old and exhausted,Persson having a career revival after more than six years of struggling with injuries,Karlsson always injured) whereas in 1989 they had 3,5 top players.
      On top of that the European field looked bleak with the only top player since the Gatien/Primorac/Saive/Rosskopf generation being Samsonov who couldn't deliver after 1997.

    • @SuperHammaren
      @SuperHammaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dickn.ormous1064 It is the first time ever that players who were defeated by a new generation players (Jiang et al long gone) came back and won against the even next generation (!). It shows how good Waldner/Persson were. The team that lost in 1995 won in 2000 with the same players(Sweden) but against a new generation better players (China), name one loss the be fair and mention the win as well should have been done in the documentary. That was my point. That Karlsson was less good is known, however still ETTC champ in singles 2000 and Waldner played well in the olympics the same year. It was Perssons show though.

  • @nicklasandersson690
    @nicklasandersson690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imo the win 2000 was a even bigger archivement😊

  • @jeffreygoines533
    @jeffreygoines533 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing docu !!!

  • @alexanderturpin4783
    @alexanderturpin4783 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Försöker bara ignorera han och tar upp en banan och börjar käka lite grann..." 50:11

  • @Izraphel
    @Izraphel 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can somebody make english captions for the last 20 minutes? please?

  • @TheOlzee
    @TheOlzee 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ain't that the truth!! Although i really hope we can repeat this standard in the future and once again challenge the chinese.

  • @atairuy
    @atairuy 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is no subtitles in the whole video

  • @kajakmannen1666
    @kajakmannen1666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    54:54 10st "lixom" levererat i blixttempo! :)

  • @yongdeng1813
    @yongdeng1813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will be decades before the swedish can recapture their past glory…nontheless, it was a great rivalry between china and sweden in those years.

  • @carpetclimber4027
    @carpetclimber4027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The tournament leaders were so weak in 1989, game 4. So what that Jialiang was ranked #1? He should've been warned, then lost a set as penalty and the ejected and disqualified if he continued to refuse to play. Switching refs because Jialiang turned into a child was so wrong. If Jialiang wanted to bring shame to the sport and his country, that was his own choice.

    • @maxskogh6289
      @maxskogh6289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda still same nowadays. Norwegians have too much say in skicross, Italians in F1, Canada in curling and so on and so on.

    • @ylong5697
      @ylong5697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The interesting point is Jiang's coach was the one who tried the stop him while the committee supported Jiang.

  • @poorknight123
    @poorknight123 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow pretty engrossing. Would have been great to have had subtitles for the final 10min but great job anyway

  • @Izraphel
    @Izraphel 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    english subtitles anywhere?

    • @johanf9279
      @johanf9279 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, click on square shaped icon.

  • @daydreameravani
    @daydreameravani 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No subtitles? I really want to know what exactly happened about the controversial serving foul by Jiang Jialiang and what the Swedish players though about that?

    • @ichiroakuma7311
      @ichiroakuma7311 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There are subtitles: just click on "CC" in the bar at the bottom.

  • @GABESZ881000
    @GABESZ881000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Already in the introductory part, the statements are not true. Before the Swedes, the Hungarians conquered the Chinese. In 1979

  • @user-pb6ui4ri5p
    @user-pb6ui4ri5p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    bör visas på skolor ,dagis ,fritidsgårdar och på tv

  • @hello520111
    @hello520111 ปีที่แล้ว

    wal is 100000% better than any chinese players for respect.

  • @petertordjunehag1055
    @petertordjunehag1055 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only Zlatan and Stenmark match this

  • @PersecutedCitizen
    @PersecutedCitizen 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waldner playing Chinese penhold at 9:05 lol.

  • @hangemhigh7069
    @hangemhigh7069 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tror jag sett denna kommuntären 3 GÅNGER!
    MYCKET STÖRRE ÄN HOCKEY GULD!

  • @rafaelshigemura
    @rafaelshigemura 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right after 2024 teams WTTC, again dominated by China, we stay looking forward for the next sweden!!!

  • @user-tt3vp1uw6o
    @user-tt3vp1uw6o 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:38 hahaha idolkort med nål i ögat

  • @tjingelinget
    @tjingelinget ปีที่แล้ว

    China really lost table tennis for good this year

  • @jarekjankowski8912
    @jarekjankowski8912 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nb

  • @epicbros-tankionline7406
    @epicbros-tankionline7406 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuk det sheiit!