Soldier is only the easiest class on Taris, that is before you get to choose your jedi class. But if you are familiar with the game and are ready for a slightly harder beginning every choice is viable and leads to interesting possibilities later. Your class choice will also affect your companion choices so the game is extremely replayable.
I haven't played KOTOR since MASS EFFECT came out. I've been playing it on switch, and it's so clear to see where the inspiration for ME came from. In many regards I consider KOTOR to be better
Really been enjoying your content after randomly finding you earlier in summer 2022. When you said you were homeless in high-school, I dunno- that hit hard for me. Glad you’re doing better these days and hope you find continued success 🙏
Thanks for this review Meatbag. I've done this game countless time and everytime I'm discovering new ways to do things, may it be little details or quest outcome that change because you've done (or not) something before. Truly a Gem. You should try the romances of Carth and Bastila, it may change your regard on them since it add a lot of depth.
I was 13 when this came out, barely understanding english so I used a dictionary :-p it was so fresh to see star wars like this, played it like 6 times. Im superbiased of cource but this was a masterpiece to me. Good times
Watching your video and wanted to leave a comment on KOTOR’s canonical status. KOTOR 1, KOTOR 2, and SWTOR are all a part of Legends continuity. This is the canon timeline that existed prior to 2014 (a LF in-house decision). They are not considered canon to the newer continuity, however Legends is still an officially supported and sanctioned continuity by the LF Storygroup. My main reason for saying this is because Leland Chee (Keeper of the Holocron/Loremaster and member of the Storygroup) has made comments regarding how Legends continuity is treated on Twitter. It is still recorded when new Legends content is produced (a small amount does do so) and LF still makes a distinction between in-continuity Legends content and non-continuity Legends content.
I remember playing this in 1st grade back in the day. Had no clue about the D&D ruleset ofc but had a blast doing crazy shit in the galaxy. I am 20 now and still play it to this day
This was this game that started it all for me. Its how I found out about DnD and crpgs like neverwinter, baulder's gate, and darklands and just love for older games in general. Those games are far more complex but kotor kept it simple but deep enough to prepare me for those games. Such a great game and great review.
Short answer on the canon for Star Wars is that Star Wars is actually split into two separate continuities. The original continuity is now called "Legends" and went from 1976-April 2014. This comprises essentially everything released from that time period including KOTOR. The Old Republic is also set in the Legends continuity since it came out in 2011 or 2012 (I don't remember the exact year) when Legends was current. So KOTOR is "canon" to the Legends continuity. When it launched in 2003 that was the only Star Wars continuity. In April 2014 Star Wars rebooted. This is the current continuity. They kept episodes 1-6 and The Clone Wars cartoon but tossed out everything else. Nowadays people just call the current continuity "canon" which is kind of confusing. Episodes 7-9 and essentially any video games, novels, etc. released since 2014 are in this current "canon" continuity. So KOTOR did not happen in the current canon if that makes sense.
Still adore these game even years later. Great to see such a balanced, fair review that's not gushing with praise for anything Bioware does, and explores the game's downsides, but also isn't overly critical for the sake of being critical and recognises the game's many strengths. The trick about 'exploiting' the game's mechanics by saving your skills up until you gain access to Jedi powers is well-known and I guess many people do that as they wish to min/max the game, but I can't bring myself to do it as it just seems kind of cheesy - even character-breaking from an RP perspective. I do agree about the choices being very extreme - either 'save the burning orphanage or stab a kitten in the face' kind of affairs'. I guess Bioware were still finding their ground here, and they became far more subtle in later games. To be fair a lot of BG1 and 2 choices could be a little bit like this.
I’d love to see a Star Wars “Old Republic” game using the DOS2 engine and writing staff or the most updated equivalent. Let Larian studios have run at Star Wars after Baldurs Gate 3!
I made it out of teris on level 4. It takes a lot of scheming with the battles and what not, but yeah, by end game I was a god. Now ima go do another playthrough.
Been following your reviews for a while now and i finally got to this video. I'm really sorry to hear about you being homeless in high school. I'm glad you were able to get out of poverty.
revan is cannon . he was brought back from legends status actually from the rise of skywalker with the introduction of the red looking storm troopers which was listed as unit revan . disney also listed that the kyber crystal in kylo rens lightsaber is spose to be the same crystal of revans lightsaber . and if you take a look of kylo ren his design was inspired by the character darth revan .
Fun fact, I didnt understand KOTOR's gear/stat system at all. It was totally foreign to me since I had never seen anything like it. As a result, I gave up on it. Some time later, and with a wider variety of games under my belt, Baldurs Gate EE was released on console and I played the hell out of it. Then I thought, huh...where have I seen this stat system before? Oh yeah....that star wars game. Ill go back and give that a try. Once I understood the system it was much easier to understand what stats did what and I started having fun.
this game is Canon now, thanks to the Clone Wars series. the main character in this series gets brought up there. can't say more without spoiling the game.
Hi, Mortismal hehehe, I'm a new fan of your content and I would like to ask you, If I may, how did you récord the game? I'm trying to stream it and it's impossible. Hope you could answer me, thank you, keep up with the great content
KOTOR 1, KOTOR 2 and SWTOR are cannon and Disney’s Star Wars isn’t or at least it is in our heads lol also I pick the Scout bc around mid ways of the game the Scout becomes crazy OP especially if combined with Jedi Guardian but really IMO the scout is already OP except for literally right at the start but once you get some solid gear and a good implant they become great or it at least seems that way for me plus it gives you a little wiggle room with your skills if you wanna be even more versatile combine the Scout with Jedi Sentinel
@@radicalcentrist4990 Never underestimate how slow I can be when playing RPGs. People kept telling me that Tyranny was a 25-30 hour game. For me, it took ~70 hours.
@@radicalcentrist4990 Partly it's because I talked to every NPC and read slowly. Partly it's because I spent way too much time fiddling with equipment. Parlty it's because I started most combats by putting everyone in stealth, sneaking them to a good position, then having them all use their abilities (and also I micromanage a lot in combat).
Can I just ask how big are the spoilers in this vid before I watch it please? I'm thinking of grabbing this on the Switch in Nov and have never played it before, thanks in advance..
Judging by your footage of this game, i'm assuming you didn't use a widescreen fix. I wanted to use it but honestly i don't trust these third party softwares that they recommend in most guides i've seen. But did you use it or are they safe to use? I just wanted your opinion on this. This is not a deal breaker for me but it would be nice to play this game at higher resolutions.
I think I played it when it came out, I cant really remember most of it, I DO remember the droid HK I think, didnt he keep referencing humans as 'bags of meat'
Since you didnt like clishe companions and light dark side extrimes of this game i highly recomend kotor 2, its much more of a deconstruction than what 1 was.
I think reviewing and recommending really old titles on their current merits compared to modern games is a bit off. KotOR was a grand title when it came out. Its technology and such should be compared to games of that era.
I wish I was as smart as you so I can enjoy those CRPG games like you. I become completely paralyzed with the amount of choices and the freedom of quest progression in games like divinity original sin 2.
You don't need to be 'smart' to play these games. If you're stressed about it just pick a build and stick to it. Focus on their core strengths and you'll be able to manage most games like this no problem. Worst case just google a 'best build' for the game and you're set. There's a lot of great stories in these games so don't let the numbers scare you away. Just play them, usually it's the early game that's the hardest bit, pass it and you'll fly through the rest enjoying the story!
@@darrenprice1267 I’m currently playing wasteland 3 and had to use the antique appraisal thing to rake in lots of cash. When I tried playing Divinity original sin 2, I had no idea where to go with the vague quest descriptions it was infuriating and you honestly need to be smart af to beat that game on your own. I couldn’t figure out where to find certain things or how to sequence quest order. Maybe that’s just me. I have had no problem figuring out what to do in wasteland 3, divinity original sin 2 felt like a never ending blind treasure hunt and I got about 30 hours into the game
One of my best gaming experiences. But few years ago decide to try it agen on a phone. Even on a phone where I don't expect much, it was far too outdated game mechanics- felt boring and unplayable
Wow why would you even talk about these things like I was going to listen to your spoiler warning or click the timestamp? This isn't even a review. The whole channel has to go now.
Playing KoTOR again on my iPhone and I can say despite of its aged graphics, it is still one of the best RPG of all time.
it works oddly well for a phone game 😅
Wow. I'm kind of jealous you get to play KOTOR for the first time. It's one of my favorite games of all time.
Just finished the game and my god.... one of the best game ive ever played. Im onto kotor 2 now.
Sorry about your upbringing. Thanks for the great channel the hard work shines through
Pathfinder style Crpg with Star Wars would be great
Soldier is only the easiest class on Taris, that is before you get to choose your jedi class. But if you are familiar with the game and are ready for a slightly harder beginning every choice is viable and leads to interesting possibilities later. Your class choice will also affect your companion choices so the game is extremely replayable.
It's one of the better choices if you want to use blasters after you become a jedi
I haven't played KOTOR since MASS EFFECT came out. I've been playing it on switch, and it's so clear to see where the inspiration for ME came from. In many regards I consider KOTOR to be better
Just discovered this channel
Omg so underrated, you deserve a million subs
Great channel for someone who is recently very enthusiastic about WRPGs
Really been enjoying your content after randomly finding you earlier in summer 2022. When you said you were homeless in high-school, I dunno- that hit hard for me. Glad you’re doing better these days and hope you find continued success 🙏
Thanks for this review Meatbag.
I've done this game countless time and everytime I'm discovering new ways to do things, may it be little details or quest outcome that change because you've done (or not) something before. Truly a Gem.
You should try the romances of Carth and Bastila, it may change your regard on them since it add a lot of depth.
I was 13 when this came out, barely understanding english so I used a dictionary :-p it was so fresh to see star wars like this, played it like 6 times. Im superbiased of cource but this was a masterpiece to me. Good times
Watching your video and wanted to leave a comment on KOTOR’s canonical status. KOTOR 1, KOTOR 2, and SWTOR are all a part of Legends continuity. This is the canon timeline that existed prior to 2014 (a LF in-house decision). They are not considered canon to the newer continuity, however Legends is still an officially supported and sanctioned continuity by the LF Storygroup.
My main reason for saying this is because Leland Chee (Keeper of the Holocron/Loremaster and member of the Storygroup) has made comments regarding how Legends continuity is treated on Twitter. It is still recorded when new Legends content is produced (a small amount does do so) and LF still makes a distinction between in-continuity Legends content and non-continuity Legends content.
I remember playing this in 1st grade back in the day. Had no clue about the D&D ruleset ofc but had a blast doing crazy shit in the galaxy. I am 20 now and still play it to this day
O hey! Class of 2011. Nice. Glad you're getting to make up for lost gaming time now.
Just found your videos and im already a big fan.
I played this game when it first came out. It's great. I love story and the saber fights.
This was this game that started it all for me. Its how I found out about DnD and crpgs like neverwinter, baulder's gate, and darklands and just love for older games in general. Those games are far more complex but kotor kept it simple but deep enough to prepare me for those games. Such a great game and great review.
The simple diametric moral choice system in this game is why I prefer KOTOR2 over KOTOR.
Mortismal + KOTOR... Whats not to like? :D
oh yeah! the dual wielding jumping guardian :) i took down the final boss in a single turn with that build
Great review! This is my favorite game of all time. I played it when it released on Xbox and revisited last year with just as much love.
Short answer on the canon for Star Wars is that Star Wars is actually split into two separate continuities. The original continuity is now called "Legends" and went from 1976-April 2014. This comprises essentially everything released from that time period including KOTOR. The Old Republic is also set in the Legends continuity since it came out in 2011 or 2012 (I don't remember the exact year) when Legends was current. So KOTOR is "canon" to the Legends continuity. When it launched in 2003 that was the only Star Wars continuity.
In April 2014 Star Wars rebooted. This is the current continuity. They kept episodes 1-6 and The Clone Wars cartoon but tossed out everything else. Nowadays people just call the current continuity "canon" which is kind of confusing. Episodes 7-9 and essentially any video games, novels, etc. released since 2014 are in this current "canon" continuity. So KOTOR did not happen in the current canon if that makes sense.
Still adore these game even years later. Great to see such a balanced, fair review that's not gushing with praise for anything Bioware does, and explores the game's downsides, but also isn't overly critical for the sake of being critical and recognises the game's many strengths.
The trick about 'exploiting' the game's mechanics by saving your skills up until you gain access to Jedi powers is well-known and I guess many people do that as they wish to min/max the game, but I can't bring myself to do it as it just seems kind of cheesy - even character-breaking from an RP perspective.
I do agree about the choices being very extreme - either 'save the burning orphanage or stab a kitten in the face' kind of affairs'. I guess Bioware were still finding their ground here, and they became far more subtle in later games. To be fair a lot of BG1 and 2 choices could be a little bit like this.
Glad I just picked up a physical copy today.....never played it before
I’d love to see a Star Wars “Old Republic” game using the DOS2 engine and writing staff or the most updated equivalent.
Let Larian studios have run at Star Wars after Baldurs Gate 3!
Oh my god take my money
Pillars and Kotor in the same week + POE Lore? Damn, you're on a roll!
I started a playthrough of KOTOR 2 last night and I’m just happy to get your piece on the first game which I finished back in the day
I made it out of teris on level 4. It takes a lot of scheming with the battles and what not, but yeah, by end game I was a god. Now ima go do another playthrough.
Been following your reviews for a while now and i finally got to this video. I'm really sorry to hear about you being homeless in high school. I'm glad you were able to get out of poverty.
Oh man, the dark side mission zalbar thing hit me so hard… as always, love your content; thanks for your work and thoughts and words :)
I would adore seeing the KotOR remake adapt Baldur's Gate 3's take on DnD 5E
revan is cannon . he was brought back from legends status actually from the rise of skywalker with the introduction of the red looking storm troopers which was listed as unit revan . disney also listed that the kyber crystal in kylo rens lightsaber is spose to be the same crystal of revans lightsaber . and if you take a look of kylo ren his design was inspired by the character darth revan .
Very much enjoyed this. Good work man.
Never played it either and now I don't know if I play it or if I wait for the remake...
I played this game as heck I played it for 50 hours
Fun fact, I didnt understand KOTOR's gear/stat system at all. It was totally foreign to me since I had never seen anything like it. As a result, I gave up on it. Some time later, and with a wider variety of games under my belt, Baldurs Gate EE was released on console and I played the hell out of it. Then I thought, huh...where have I seen this stat system before? Oh yeah....that star wars game. Ill go back and give that a try. Once I understood the system it was much easier to understand what stats did what and I started having fun.
Can confirm. After Disney buyout, this is not canon.
I hope at some point you do a review of KOTOR 2 as well.
That is the plan
Thank you for calling Bastilla annoying haha, never understood the obsession with her character the past 20 years. She ain't great whatsoever
this game is Canon now, thanks to the Clone Wars series. the main character in this series gets brought up there. can't say more without spoiling the game.
I’m jealous you got to play this game for the first time.
Hi, Mortismal hehehe, I'm a new fan of your content and I would like to ask you, If I may, how did you récord the game? I'm trying to stream it and it's impossible. Hope you could answer me, thank you, keep up with the great content
It's been a while but I use Shadowplay usually, and in the rare cases that doesnt work I use screen capture with OBS
KOTOR 1, KOTOR 2 and SWTOR are cannon and Disney’s Star Wars isn’t or at least it is in our heads lol also I pick the Scout bc around mid ways of the game the Scout becomes crazy OP especially if combined with Jedi Guardian but really IMO the scout is already OP except for literally right at the start but once you get some solid gear and a good implant they become great or it at least seems that way for me plus it gives you a little wiggle room with your skills if you wanna be even more versatile combine the Scout with Jedi Sentinel
"It's not super long; you're looking at maybe 20-30 hours depending on how many side quests you do."
So, for me, probably 60-80 hours.
@@radicalcentrist4990 Never underestimate how slow I can be when playing RPGs. People kept telling me that Tyranny was a 25-30 hour game. For me, it took ~70 hours.
@@radicalcentrist4990 Partly it's because I talked to every NPC and read slowly. Partly it's because I spent way too much time fiddling with equipment. Parlty it's because I started most combats by putting everyone in stealth, sneaking them to a good position, then having them all use their abilities (and also I micromanage a lot in combat).
@@benl2140 a proper gamer 🤘
Take time to smell the roses. I wish I could be more like that in games. Power to you, the more time you spend the better value you are getting.
Can I just ask how big are the spoilers in this vid before I watch it please? I'm thinking of grabbing this on the Switch in Nov and have never played it before, thanks in advance..
I hope really do hope Aspr does Kotor justice
I loved Jolie as well!
You should do the second game now but you *MUST* download the tslrcm mod even better if you use tslrcm + m4 78 mod.
I'm going through it now, it's my understanding that the steam version has the sith Lord stuff in game
Judging by your footage of this game, i'm assuming you didn't use a widescreen fix. I wanted to use it but honestly i don't trust these third party softwares that they recommend in most guides i've seen. But did you use it or are they safe to use? I just wanted your opinion on this. This is not a deal breaker for me but it would be nice to play this game at higher resolutions.
They're safe to use, I just usually prefer to keep the original aspect ratio on older games unless they widescreen is officially supported
@@MortismalGaming I see. Thank you for the response!
I think I played it when it came out, I cant really remember most of it, I DO remember the droid HK I think, didnt he keep referencing humans as 'bags of meat'
You got a sub...and the bell :)
Great vid
There's a remake coming to the PS5!!!!! 😱😱😱😱
Since you didnt like clishe companions and light dark side extrimes of this game i highly recomend kotor 2, its much more of a deconstruction than what 1 was.
Also expands on incababilities of jedi and sith quite a bit, to a point one could consider it a star wars herasy.
I'm playing it now actually
@@MortismalGaming ah cool to hear, will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it then.
I think reviewing and recommending really old titles on their current merits compared to modern games is a bit off. KotOR was a grand title when it came out. Its technology and such should be compared to games of that era.
I disagree, tons of old review that are relevant to the time, I think it is wise to stay relevant now.
climax of this game ❤️❤️
I wish I was as smart as you so I can enjoy those CRPG games like you. I become completely paralyzed with the amount of choices and the freedom of quest progression in games like divinity original sin 2.
You don't need to be 'smart' to play these games. If you're stressed about it just pick a build and stick to it. Focus on their core strengths and you'll be able to manage most games like this no problem. Worst case just google a 'best build' for the game and you're set. There's a lot of great stories in these games so don't let the numbers scare you away. Just play them, usually it's the early game that's the hardest bit, pass it and you'll fly through the rest enjoying the story!
@@darrenprice1267 I’m currently playing wasteland 3 and had to use the antique appraisal thing to rake in lots of cash. When I tried playing Divinity original sin 2, I had no idea where to go with the vague quest descriptions it was infuriating and you honestly need to be smart af to beat that game on your own. I couldn’t figure out where to find certain things or how to sequence quest order. Maybe that’s just me. I have had no problem figuring out what to do in wasteland 3, divinity original sin 2 felt like a never ending blind treasure hunt and I got about 30 hours into the game
yt jazz
One of my best gaming experiences. But few years ago decide to try it agen on a phone. Even on a phone where I don't expect much, it was far too outdated game mechanics- felt boring and unplayable
First.
Wow why would you even talk about these things like I was going to listen to your spoiler warning or click the timestamp? This isn't even a review.
The whole channel has to go now.
🤬🤬🤬🤬 😂😂 well played
Noice.
Nothing is cannon from the extended universe. If it’s not in the films or tv shows made by Disney, it’s not cannon