This is one of the strangest cases that I’ve covered to date, Randy Stair’s fantasy was a very disturbing one. If you’re impatient or unsure about the length of this video, skip to 14:37. Thank you for watching another case by Coffeehouse Crime today folks, our next case will be an international one. What do you think about Randy Stair? Was this all avoidable? Please let me know below!
I think had Randy gotten the help he needed, he most likely wouldn't have done what he did, but it's hard to say because there are some cases where people with disillusions sought help and they still snapped for whatever reason
This was 100% avoidable! He literally posted his delusions for years. What I really want to know is where were his parents? The people closest to him failed him. It's not like he was suffering from a mental illness in secret. And the fact that he got the shotgun from his own mother? I'm sorry, but it's cases like these that I feel other people should also be held accountable and take responsibility for the actions of the offender. Thanks, Adrian for more awesome content! Keep up the great work! 😊
@Owoade Dolu because inner cities in the us, africa/the middle east are bastions of sanity, and low crime. Gimme a break. People everywhere do messed up shit. Dont make it about race. Every race does horrible things.
It’s so easy to not see what’s in front of you if it doesn’t fit your reality, parents of children sexually abused by family members, abused partners who don’t see their children are also being abused, trump won the election supporters...🤦♀️
@@chaulz7777 the difference is that in western cartoon world they realized about 10-20 years ago that cartoons for adults can be a thing. Japan realized that in the 60s-70s. so anime has soooo much more experience in adult writing it is stupid. EDIT: and its not even just experience but also commitment. most western cartoons intended for adults still aim for a teen audience as well.
What's so amazingly tragic yet ironic is the fact that the whole point of Ember's character is to manipulate and brainwash people into mindlessly obeying her, eventually having them commit terrible actions. Like you can't make this up, it's absurd.
Actually, I think that that would make it more likely he go to this extreme rather than be something to help him come to his senses. Believers of various types do have times of lucidity when they realise to some degree that their beliefs are bullshit. They usually go back to the beliefs after the "crisis of faith" or whatever, but it matters a lot how the belief system explains how to interpret "crises of faith" or if the belief system addresses it at all. Imo Ember's brainwashing probably actually gave him a crutch in the form of an "interpretation" when his fervor would waver.
@@goblin-night For me, personally, I think the most tragic part of this whole mess is that EGS was, from everything I have seen, really good and creative. It completely sucks that he decided to murder his co-workers and himself rather than actually making Embers Ghost Squad into a real thing that he could be proud of. With a little time and effort, it could have been picked up as a Danny Phantom spinoff or something similar, or it could have gotten him noticed by animation studios and by now we could have something else just as cool, or even better. The loss of life in these cases is always tragic. For me, it is the loss of Randy Stair's potential that really makes this case unique, and sadder than a lot of the other ones that Coffeehouse Crime and other similar channels have covered. I'd be insanely curious to find a multiverse where he didn't kill anyone but rather was able to channel it into his creativity, artwork, and storytelling and see what that universe looked like.
@@zoegartham312 The fact that he took out others out with him in his twisted fantasy is the most tragic part for me. I think if you had a spotlight into most people's minds you'd find talent.
@@InvincibleSummer-s8p I understand your point. I even agree with you. Thank you for sharing your opinion with me. I like having deep discussions about topics such as these; I always get different perspectives and learn to see things differently. I've seen the case of Randy Stair a number of times now on various channels, and the vast majority of the comments are about the tragedy of the shooting and the loss of innocent life, which is indeed incredibly tragic, and I by no means wish to downplay that. I'm simply trying to point out that it wasn't the only tragedy here. Further, for whatever reason, Adrian didn't mention two pieces of information that I found odd that he would leave out, as they are directly related to why Randy did what he did. The first was that he was at least into cross-dressing, and may have been a closeted Trans individual. He was found wearing his mother's clothing at various times, and iirc that negatively affected his relationship with his parents and was a primary reason he even considered having the shooting at the market. The second thing is that he was trying for months, maybe longer, to get recognized for his talent by various animation studios, and he kept getting denied. That quite possibly was the straw that broke the camel's back, as the expression goes... and if it was indeed that, then his talent deserves more recognition than it generally gets. Idk though, these are just my thoughts on the subject. Thank you again for your opinion. I appreciate it!
@zoegartham312 He seemed sexually confused for sure, liking my little pony porn and cartoon girls. He could have been closeted gay, but I don't believe anyone should be trans.
Ironic that in Ember's episode her punishment is to be followed around by a lonely loser ghost who keeps calling out her name and fawning over her. I guess he didn't pay much attention to his Waifu's story.
That's the reverse actually, he ascend way to quick and because he was not prepared for the adult life and being alone ruined his life and the life of the workers.
I think it was just his dad with him, they got divorced. In one of the videos he ranted about how his dad, the store manager, was on his nerve at home.
When I was going through serious mental illness my family didn’t want to get me help. After all what would the neighbors think? I almost wound up like this poor idiot. Thankfully I got help before it was too late.
They just said “yo that’s pretty cool here is a shotgun” like dafuq maybe take the guns away while he’s suffering and give them back when he’s ok? Their is a pro gun mental health group where if you are feeling suicudal you can ask them to hold onto your guns while you get help so you don’t take your own life and then after you are feeling better they give you your guns back it’s a way of not demonizing people with mental illness by forcefully taking their guns away and instead a more friendly solution
Dana W I find this one proticularly uncomfortable because of how normal he seems where it feels like he really was someone who just was suffering. But I’m kinda glad he’s dead because of how dangerous he was. But I’m also sympathetic with his struggle
Dana W the shooter in another video was clearly not suffering mentally and meanwhile this guy was. I think he really should have went to a institution after that shooting to maybe get some kind of help
This really is tragic just because of how long it went on and all the signals he was sending out without anyone stopping to say "Something seriously wrong with Randy, we should get him help."
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh Yes, unsupported this was inevitable, but it feels like there were numerous times a friend or parent could have tried staging an intervention, or straight up called the cops on him.
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh he wouldn't have let a cartoon drawing run his life if he was getting any kind of professional help or had anyone in his life to sit him down and tell him how freakish and insane that is hell, if he just spent some time on discord, he might have gotten bullied into suicide before going this far
@@katatonikbliss Nope, because of his ego. Ego is the main reason why so many mentally ill lolcows refuse assistance. Note his behaviour when several animators refused to help him make his terrible and cringeworthy school shooting cartoon, he threw a pathetic hissy fit and threw them under the bus. Lost causes such as Randy exist and you can't bully these people beyond the brink because of their rampant arrogance.
As a mum, I am always so confused how parents are so disconnected from their children's mental state. Children go through phases, but suicide, homicide and romantic attachment to a cartoon character character are not any of them.
Indeed, its baffling. I am hyper aware of my children's emotional states. We also home school; public schools are bad for children's overall health imo.
Yeah it is super strange to me too. But I've come to observe that not all parents or families are emotionally aware or connected, as if emotions are too scary or difficult for them to handle. They can only deal with the surface, and surface is the only thing that matters to them. It's like a hit or miss how their kids will actually turn out in the end.
Maybe he kept that part of himself a secret from his parents? There's a lot of things my parents don't know about me, and didn't know I was going through suic*dal thoughts when I did.
If your friends tell you that they're not only in love with a fictional character, but that the character loves them too and understands them, and they have a connection, don't make fun of them. Get them professional help. They have a disorder. Crushing on fictional characters is fine, but believing they are real and have feelings for you is a delusion.
@@i_am_chronic3997 Its too late now; every and any good, bad and/or indifferent person in America can access a firearm on basically a whim. Do you know what a gun is? It's an engine of war.. When you wake up to the division being sewn in the USA by the powers that be, you'll realise it's never going to change.. Thank God I live in England! The United States was build atop a burial ground, does any of the chaos surprise you??
You’d be surprised. I think at first he hid a lot of this stuff from his family, and then started leaving hints that he thought himself as a woman. Apparently they didn’t seem to care/notice
LOL yup my cartoon crush was _Daphne_ on Scooby Doo, lol. But then I grew up. And then dammit along comes _Jessica Rabbit_ hahahaha 😲. Srsly though; I wonder if it all could've been stopped in its tracks by an in-person intervention by Butch Hartman.. He could'a been all, 'Yeah - but dude - jeeziskreist! - it's just a fukkin' cartoon character I drew!!'
Yeah, I'm sure he went on and on to his parents about his animated girlfriend and all the rest. Amazing how everyone here seems to know all about his relationship with his parents based on the few hours of video he left behind. Because no kid in history ever spent time by themselves on their computer for hours a day but still had a normal life and parent relationship. No, thats not possible and doesn't describe millions of teenagers right now.
They probably attributed his deteriorating mental health as either an excuse to be lazy and address his lack of growth or an act of defiance as a stubborn son. I’m guessing that from his final message to dad
Actually I’m really surprised by how behaviors of his parents are similar to my parents’s. It honestly scares me how much I could relate to him and understand him. I genuinely hope he would’ve had someone to reach out and help him out. I teared up a bit at the end of the video. I NEVER mean to justify his actions but Rest In Peace to the 3 victims and to randy himself as well.
Randy's obsession with Amber reminds me a lot of another case: The Final Fantasy House. That one did not claim any lives (at least not directly), but it did cause an immense amount of trauma on a rather large amount of people through years of abuse, all because of a deluded individual, who was convinced they were the reincarnation of the character Jenova from Final Fantasy VII and all their victims were reincarnations of other characters from the game. This person still shows up from time to time, having jumped to new fandoms, but always following the exact same pattern.
What disgusts me is that he knew his victims, knew they were harmless, he knew they had family and probably had met them before. And yet he didn't care about their lives at all... so disgusting.
Imagine if the frog was a real living being. He literslly wantef to take the life of an animal just because some cartoon character that does not exist supposedely told him to do it. This dude could be classified as a simp considering he is willing to do anything so satisfy a fictional character.
One has to think those closest to him would have a clue this man needed serious help - but his mother gave him a shotgun...?! Apparently those closest to him were in fact clueless - perhaps criminally so. You probably suggest the best advice- you see an individual acting out like this on line - tell the authorities.
when you don't care about your own life and family, why caring about others ? I was telling myself that those people could at least try to kill some horrible persons (make your own list) ?
He was legitimately talented with his acting and humor. It's so sad to see people throw themselves away like that. And even worse that he took others with him
@@Matt-hh2ye he didn’t really throw himself away. He was broken and no matter how much he showed everyone exactly how broken he was, no one cared enough to help him out. Sometimes you can be so broken you can’t help yourself. His actions are reprehensible, but he certainly wasn’t in control of making sound decisions or of just living in the same universe as the rest of us. He didn’t throw himself away. He was helpless and everyone around failed him and failed the future victims too. Blame them, not him. It’s the callous that are responsible here.
@@Spooky_Platypusinteresting take… I agree with some things you said but he has to take some responsibility for his actions. His dad gave him a job and in his last video he just didn’t say the greatest things about his dad. I have no idea how his dad treated him but I’m willing to bet this kid disregarded any help that came his way. He even said “no one understands me”. I’m sorry, but I’m not giving into my kid and supporting him if he tells me he wants to be intimate with a cartoon character.
This video was recommended to me today. I’ve had a dark mental state for most of my life. So long that I can’t remember a time where I’ve felt at peace. It’s been eating me alive. This video gave me the kick in the ass that I needed. Time for therapy.
I don't think its craziness, I think he was unhappy and affected by the shit that happened to him, and he didn't care anymore. That may be craziness medically speaking. But yeah it's not something you can get out of like you wake up from a bad dream. He was into that depressed mindset and he would have needed real treatment and to change his way of living to get out of it
@@jonas8993 I've been depressed, but I never started thinking the afterlife will involve joining a bunch of cartoon characters I personally created. He definitely had other mental issues in addition to the depression.
@@Oujouj426 yeah for sure, he had other things going on, that said, people like to believe that this kind of things is far from them and that there must be "one thing" that explains such incidents. But the reality is that often it doesn't require a lot... I've been depressed and even tho I've never planned on hurting other people, I could feel that once you start feeling so bad, you feel like you don't matter anymore, and other people and things don't matter anymore too. I know if I just had one more reason to feel angry or something I might have felt like he did. And about the fictionnal characters, that too doesn't require madness, people have more or less imagination, when they're happy they write the harry potter books, when they're not they might as well include it into their reason to die
Depression is faulty thinking. I'm no psychiatrist, but I would say, purely based on his videos, that he had depression with psychotic features. He was deluded, and I'm disturbed that he wasn't brought to a psychiatrist by his family. It's shocking how many people will brush off worrying statements from loved ones as, "Oh no, they would never actually do something to harm themselves/others." I would rather my friend be annoyed with me because I tried to get them help, than have my friend be dead, and live with the guilt that I could have done something more.
I wouldn't call it strange, just tragic and sickening at the same time. Social and emotional isolation will do that to you, especially if you've got other things going on in your mind.
Despite butchering Froggy and Whale to death, Randy did seem to like Froggy as a character. His murder was actually a "transformation" as her character was brought back as a human female character. Randy describes her personality as kind, caring, compassionate...but she is also totally ok with killing people. Yeah Randys work is weird.
My heart always feels so heavy in cases like these. People died in the name of someone's psychosis and delusions because they weren't able to get help even after displaying so many warning signs. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.
I'm sure they showed her the CCTV footage... Imagine yourself peacefully listening to some music, while a derranged maniac armed with 2 shotguns stands right behind you... Ugh. That is some horror movie level crap
@@annieyu72 For sure. Or, maybe instead of a crush, the other coworkers he just didn’t like? And maybe she was the one coworker he did. Not necessarily romantic though. I was in a similar situation except I talked to the guy every time I came in because everyone else would make fun of him for no reason at all. Different fate though, he’s in jail.
I felt like he didn't shoot her because she wasn't aware he was there, thus taking away the fear factor and the thrill people get from invoking that kind of fear.
@@Jaevan he could quite easily have ragged out her ear phones and scared her to death though. so? i am not sure that really makes sense, although I did think along similar lines at first myself.
Exactly. It baffles me how he was not detained for mental illness. He was clearly a neglected, ostracised person whether intentional or not. People go under the radar and it’s really sad. People who are close to people need to do better.
Take a look at all of the documentaries on this channel and beyond.. they’re nobodies of no consequence. They mean little to none to the poeple around him. That’s where their ‘pain’ comes from and their narcissism develops. They’ll think ‘if they cant see my importance, i will’. Then comes the superiority complex and blah blah blah and then blam blam blam.. mistakes are made in the present, impacting the future, but are only viewed in the past.
I took an interest in his case and saw many of his videos and mostly the last ones and actually he explained that how apathetic the world was towards his cries He was basically crying for help and no one cared especially his parents who where totally uninterested and didn't even take him seriously at all I'm only saying that because that total ignorance and apathy was the reason that angered and motivated him to commit these things
It doesn’t take physical or sexual abuse or complete neglect to cause a child to become depressed, lonely, or violent. Emotional neglect, simply not being part of a child’s life is enough.
....... smh all them are excuses for a killer to say why they killed to kill like this in cold blood is a different type of evil for you to believe in God you most believe in the devil as well and this is proof the other side is their
@@darrellsaunders6089 im an atheist and dont need to make excuses for human filth. they exist, sadly, and they always have. only answer is to pick up on early warning signs and nip it in the butt when you can.
Exactly, I think people overdramatize some of these unhinged individuals by assuming things like trauma. Sometimes, being lonely and ostracized by people can lead to incidents like this. Elliot Rogers is a good example.
“That all changed when Ember came into the picture” Me: Oh he got a girlfriend, okay “Danny Phantom was a cartoon series…” Me: Oh Jesus not THAT Ember… he went full psycho
I knew plenty of kids growing up that liked cartoons a little to much but they never ended up like this dude lol. His parents probably just thought he was weird but not a killer
I’ve heard about Randy Stair. He was actually fricken insane. I’ve made my own alternate universe where it’s just me and my friends going on random and intense adventures. I’ve never actually been extremely obsessed with my universe like Randy did. (Also, this video has way more info on Randy’s life and more footage than other videos I’ve watched about him!)
The fact you didn't smirk or laugh during the whole Amber thing shows real professionalism. You've done a fantastic job on this channel bro. Here's to hoping your success keeps going.
there was actually a girl he knew online who knew about it and even posted a vague message about it on twitter right before it happened i forgot her name but shes mentioned in some other videos
@@guilhermehank4938 that's the only right answer really. He literally said on TH-cam I'm going to shoot up the grocery store. Nobody who wants to get away with it does that.
As somebody who has struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts most of my life, I kind of get it. You feel like nobody understands you and they never will, but if he would have just tried talking to somebody open and honestly things could have been different. Could be a friend, family member; just anyone.
As someone who - like you struggled with depression when you, even early adult years --I do not get it. So many of us experience depression and suicidal thoughts but we think of exiting our lives NOT harming anyone else.
The thing that bothers me here is that no matter how many people say "if you're struggling mentally, get help", nobody who is that delusional will seek help themself, and when they do, help is often shockingly difficult to get.
Ikr!? Also helping hands are given to rich tbh.. a therapist costs a fortune nowadays. Also men don't get support as such as a woman does. Saying it from my experience
@@Jiishaan Literally true. My rich boss has a personal therapist and is drugged up on various mental health medications just to stay functional that she could obviously afford because her family already was rich. These same privileged people will crap on the poor and working class for struggling mentally and have this "work harder and pull yourself up by your bootstraps " mentality when they literally can't afford the resources they have and its a mental and financial cycle
Yup. I had an episode of psychosis when I was dealing with a brain injury. I’m a rather level headed skeptic. But it is so hard to dismiss your senses. I thought I was abducted by aliens and in some sort of bizarre experiment lab. I knew it was impossible but I saw it, heard it, felt it, etc. Paranoia is part of it so you assume the worse and react like you are in danger, even when someone is trying to help. But if he had close people he may have listened early on. However, he didn’t seem to like having close people in his life and there is nothing you can do if you aren’t close enough, even in the beginning.
Honestly she probably didn’t even notice what he was doing. He probably was so introverted, she left him alone. This is why parents should be involved in their kids lives. She would have noticed it sooner had she been looking
@@aurorahw7085 My daughter was extremely introverted growing up. It never stopped her father or myself to make sure we knew what was going on. She's a healthy adult because we took parenting our child seriously and it was always our priority. More parents need to do the same. It doesn't matter how angry your kids get.
He seems super self aware at points, like he knew it was a cartoon character that caused this insane psychological break, but he was totally fine with it
Uh the cartoon didn't cause anything. All that was his choice to bond and escape to. Judging by the whale character he was abused. And the Frog was a obvious personification of his self. He just chose his creation over his reality..
"It's just attention seeking" and "I know them they wouldn't actually do anything" has ended a lot of lifes in our society. If they are saying thing publicly they want someone to reach out to them because they honestly have no hope to help themselves. Just because it makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean you can't inform someone who is capable of helping.
Fucking A, my friend! It's better to be wrong and report someone who doesnt need help rather than let someone who is serious do as they will. People should treat them more like how authorities treat bomb threats, treat it like it's real until you are 100% sure it's not.
@@left-2-write28 Being a high risk individual myself I can't express the pain I felt everytime someone said I was trying to get attention. It was at school that I got it the worse. The amount of times children who are getting bullied get expelled is sickening. Punishing kids who are already being picked on and hurt at school is the complete opposite of helping.A lot of the time these kids are being abused at home too. Expelling them just gives their abusers more reasons to abuse them. Everthing I went through led to a suicide attempt that put me in a coma for a few weeks. I am one of the lucky. I should be dead and their could of likely been other people around me who would have been hurt too. That was years ago and I have gotten help. It took a lot of bad things to happen for me to finally be put into intense therapy and get better. I am a rare case. Thats why this is so broken. Its always avoidable if we listen to the early signs.
No, Randy didn't actually burn Froggy and Whale. The box was empty when he burned it. In later videos, Froggy and Whale can be seen idling under Randy's bed
Maybe, he could use the bend finger as an excuse for avoid most crowded hours. Like "people will stare at my hand and it's bad, woukd be better a night swift" or something like that
If it was considered a minor physical disability, the store might have allowed him to work hours with fewer people because of accommodations made for disabled people. I don't really know the true answer but that was my assumption.
Interesting case. As a therapist I really appreciate the way that you honor the victims and hold people accountable for their actions/part. Great balance and always interesting thank you!
I feel like that rant he made to his dad about how he never tried to understand him was his cry for help. Like he legit looked sad and disappointed when he said those words.
@@Sceptnado then whos supposed to support and help him? whos suppsoed to guide him and the parents if its not their job to look after their son? what parent gives their kid a shotgun??? they clearly neglected and didnt do anything to help him or listen to him and i hope they live with guilt for what happened for the rest of their life. im not even a parent but keep in mind if u think that this gu ws a lunatic who was "past" getting help then at some point he wasnt "past getting help", and thats where his pa rents should have paid attention.
@@day2Dawn The fuck? He clearly said he couldn't talk to his dad about his issues, so its not like he was being abused or his dad was some unreasonable drunk psycho. His dad literally just said what every parent says...I want you to be able to provide for yourself and have a family of your own someday. You're saying all this shit in hindsight, his dad should have known he was going to go psycho and murder 3 people and because he couldn't read someones mind you want his dad to live with guilt for the rest of his life?? Fuck is wrong with you dude. You talk about how a murderer deserved help then turn around and say an innocent guy should be punished for life with guilt and all the mental issues that come from his child dying and killing 3 others.
That ‘diagnosis’ made at the end of the video was ridiculous. He was referred to several times as suffering from psychosis throughout the video - and then it’s stated he ‘knew what he was doing’! If he *was* psychotic (I didn’t see ANY evidence of psychosis in the video) how is he *also* in full control of his thoughts and behavior? What is up with people ‘diagnosing’ mental illness in people they’ve never met? When they have no qualifications? That was just a bunch of psychological buzz words thrown together. It spreads misinformation and is completely irresponsible.
"We had feelings for each other" "It was way more than a simple connection" This kid is talking about himself and a fictional cartoon. Where on Earth were his parents, family, and friends?!?!??!
This have been happening for centuries Read about Pygmalion and Galatea, only difference is that Pygmalion didn't become a mass murderer at the end of the story
Some parents like the look of having a good family rather than making a good family His dad figured.... If he has a job, is working, gets a girl and moves... He's fine. And they just ignore everything else. It's the way Boomers were raised. The "tough love" or "good old days" It further screws their brains. That's why all those boomers started getting divorced and screwed up.
the Japanese have a word for Randy's grandiose delusions which is Chunibyo syndrome is a Japanese colloquial term typically used to describe early teens who have grandiose delusions, who desperately want to stand out, and who have convinced themselves that they have hidden knowledge or secret powers.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 You do make a valid point, the most normal of people could be ostracised for sticking out in even the smallest of ways. …Then again, all the bizarre social pressures in Japan do produce a fair share of loons from time to time. “出る釘は打たれる”.
It's more than a chuunibyou I think, and closer to kind of a weebo/a simp who over obsessed to a fictional character, believing that the character is alive and began to control his mind (which is at this stage, is already too much, since weebos in general only admire their fav character). While chuunibiyou is more overconfident personality, believing themselves had some sort of power and there is no really external force (like fictional character) who force them to do it.
i really appreciate the fact that this video is split up into literal parts. not that i skipped anything but it makes it feel so organized and fancy. also the sheer cringe and edgy energy he had was truly hard to sit through. can't believe that this is what youtube used to be like (and this was only 4 years ago??)
its youtube... its been and always will be weird, scary, cringe shit on here. but also the most hilarious and heartwarming shit youll ever see is on here. good comes with the bad. and vice versa
I honestly miss those unfiltered days when everyone was more original and natural in their video making compared to nowadays whereas everything is super marketable, cheesy, and over the top super duper professional just to get a fat juicy check.
@@MrDmoney156 I think you watch the wrong people. Yeah, there a plenty of popular TH-camrs that don’t bring any substance to their content. But, I feel like nowadays TH-cam is so diverse that you can choose a community and never have to deal with the channels that don’t interest you. Like I can watch people make true crime videos, art shows, movies commentary, commentary in general, skits, gameplay, books reviews, horror stories channels, etc. I feel like back then TH-cam was only skits and video games reviewers.
Mental health help is very important. I have rapid cycling bipolar and severe obsessive compulsive disorder. Throughout the years, I only needed someone to discuss my feelings with and that made me not hurt myself. It is important to have someone, anyone, who you can discuss your feelings with. Everyone needs attention from someone. It is during those lonely times, when you feel like nobody cares about you, especially after being abandoned, emotionally, or physically; things like what Randy committed him self to, happen. This is very unfortunate and there is no excuse for his actions.
it's so crazy to me how much detail these people get on these channels. like where the hell did he find out that he broke his collar bone in 1st grade? the amount of research these people do has to be absolutely insane. i seriously applaud channels like this.
@@higaiwokeru he used it to showcase that there weren't any horrible events happening during his childhood that could have lead to mental illness, with the broken bone as the example "that's the worst thing that happened" basically
@@higaiwokeru Clearly you must not be a fan of good films or stories in general because attention to details like that are EXACTLY what separate good stories from yawn-inducing news segments. They help paint a picture and give the viewer context.... That said, if you prefer just the who/what/when/where just go to Wikipedia or simple google search.
@@higaiwokeru people who know that these cases are the sum of multiple events and are interested in how they relate or build upon each other...something that clearly eludes you
With all of this guy's daddy issues, I'm not surprised he found more comfort and solace in the idea of being with women/girls. Which makes sense as to why he spared the young lady listening to music. Must have reminded him of his goddess, Ember.
I like most if the original comment, but he didn’t necessarily dislike his dad, he actually hated his mom. He started disliking his dad because he was a male and he stated that he really started hating all males, basically he wanted to be a woman that bad
I feel so sad for the three employees who lost their lives. The army veteran served his country and then meets his end in a damn supermarket where he feels most comfortable. The 63 year old man, who's supposed to be retired at that age, but obviously never had any savings to his name, so he was just trying to make a living for himself and family, and the young lady who leaves behind a young child. May their souls Rest In Peace.
@• Spoki • MrBomb • month long comment, idk either. Maybe I just got angry hearing of the innocents killed while there’s comments sympathizing with the killer
OMG! This happened 2 1/2 hours away from me. I'm in south central PA. Didn't hear anything about it at all. You weren't kidding when you said it didn't get much media attention. Both of my daughters worked at a Weis where we are. It's just... this is heartbreaking.
And hes religois as well. I dont like butch at all So i hope this is eating at him (hes rude and self absorbed he cant take criticism at all, He thinks you have to be a professional to have an opinion. Anyone can have an opinon and give criticism)
@@aprendizdecapivara2841 To be fair, there have been controversies surrounding Butch Hartman these days. Like when he made a joke about a voice actor committing suicide and blaming it on Tara Strong. Or his Oaxis scam. Or his recent art tracings.
FUN FACT: You said "once the soundtracks were released to TH-cam."... Randy was actually the person who tracked down the hq embers song track that was once considered lost media. He is the one who posted it to TH-cam and the version he uploaded is edited with subliminal messages of his speaking and the columbine shooters. Therefore, the actual hq original track is still lost
A detail that people tend to overlook when recapping Randy is the fact he was almost on an animation podcast called The Pizza Party Podcast. Usually when a a creator, especially animators, are invited onto the show their channels usually see way more traffic. The host “Pan-Pizza” even expresses disbelief finding out his almost guest was Randy. It makes me think that things could’ve gone way different for Randy if he did show up on that show
He had problems adjusting to adulthood. You see how attached he is to this fantasy world he created and couldn't cope with the demands of growing up. The deaths he caused are all senseless, none of these people wronged him in any way and didn't deserve this tragedy.
@@meguminuwu7501 sometimes pointing out someone’s delusion and making them realize how much of an idiot they are is the best thing. But then again trying to understand them while simultaneously trying to help them out is also good. It really depends on the person
Cartoons are great because they will agree with who ever gives them life Making profiles talking to each other The content matter is the worst part, I relate with everything but how fucking crazy he was
You can see the slight hint of both realization and guilt in the final video of his in the car, like he had a small moment of clarity before it was snuffed back down to insanity, its really sad
I'm always so angry when hearing cases like this. The way these sick people take other people's lives, people with family, friends, and other people that cares about them. I will never sympathize with these people even if they have some sort of build up trauma that pushed them to commit these horrible crimes. I'm also blaming their parents who bring these people into the world and weren't able to control them.
Gosh, I feel really bad for the victims. One of them even got grandkids and I believe all three were normal and kind people too. I hate that they lost their lives to some delusional narcisistic adult child. I hope their family are already in peace after this incident.
I don't like the framing of "the parents are bad because they didn't control him hard enough." They should have been more empathetic and actually there for Randy, not more controlling.
They fail to realize that the world doesn’t revolve around them. We all suffer together here on this world, yet we go through it anyways. It is hard, but you’re not the only one. Millions of us go through it. War, death, famine.. those will always be there.
God. I don't know what is worse. The fact this young man put himself through this delusion, or that there are probably a lot more young people who are going through the same thing.
A lost generation for sure. Still, there are a lot more good than bad in the world. It’s not like the world is running out of people, quite the opposite actually.
You should check out fickin, aka fiction kin, and also take a deep dive into waifuism and yumejos Men and women both are losing years and years of their lives in relationships with fictional characters I used to be one of them and it is a dark, dark place to be--most of these people don't have potential to become killers, but they are trapped in delusions like Randy
i went through similar shit as this kid. this shit could easily have been prevented. when someone starts to go crazy, rogue, or outright creepy....get them help. dont be a bystander watching their world fall apart and them jump down a cliff into nothing but delusion hate anger pain and sadness. i could have ended up as this kid. but i was lucky to have been blessed with the ability to fight through anything almost. leather skin i heard someone call me once. at least i think that what they said. idk. either way this is sad and could have been prevented if people actually gave a fuck about one another enough to at the very least let someone with authority know. it sad that so many are going through shit like this now. my thoughts, the government should force help to people in need...or isolate them...or terminate them. i HATE the idea of the last 2...more so the last one. but wtf do we do? how do we (the people) enforce the government who supposedly is there to help and protect us, to do their jobs? this kinda shit shouldnt even exist with the technology money and medical advances that we have. wtf is being done to combat this? nothing. WHY?!?!? P.S. not mad at you. im only a little bit before halfway into the video and it hitting home big time for me so i needed to rant. will edit if needed when i see whole thing. but fuck this hurt to watch so far
Something a lot of ppl don’t know about randy stair is that he drank A LOT of Benadryl to the point to where he was high off of it a lot. He had a lot in system during his autopsy too. That was probably a contributor to his deteriorating mental state. Rip to the victims.
You ever read the 16" long list of unwanted effects of diphenhydramine, or Benadryl? My mother has drank almost a pint every night of Zquil, for about 20 years. While she denies it has caused any problems, it is non habit forming after all, she has many adverse effects. Namely dementia. She is 75 though. She only drinks it now if someone else takes her to the store, or she cons someone else. She lives in my home, and no longer drives. I don't let her drink that shit if I can help it. What do you have to go to sleep for? Your 75. You ain't gotta get up in the morning. Just stay up till your asleep. It will happen. I promise. I tell her this, and I see her nodding off all the time. Which she denies. Silly old bird.
@@peterjongsma2779 it's an over the counter antihistamine (for allergy symptoms). But a side effect is drowsiness, so some people take it to help them fall asleep. It's not very pleasant to take in large quantities, but can cause a feeling of intoxication also accompanied by depression and physicsl symptoms such as heart palpitations, fast heartbeat, extremely dry eyes and mouth, and depression.
this case is so frustrating because if Randy/Andrew just had access to a good therapist and psychiatrist NONE of this would've happened. People always say it but Mental Health is truly so important because untamed mental illness will just terrorize and deteriorate a person.
Well part of it is him being bad nature to an extent because someone with mental illness alone wouldn’t act out in violence like that someone with mental illness plus other issues does stuff like that. Edit if he truly believed his fantasy world was real then he meant to kill people so they would join him in the fantasy world. So maybe it wasn’t some kind of hatred. Also why couldn’t he have stuck to shooting guns and making cringy videos on TH-cam those old videos were actually enjoyable
I don't normally feel sorry for people who do bad things but I really feel like this guy wouldn't have spiraled into destruction if he'd gotten help when he first needed it. By the time he reached the end any help was too late. Please reach out to any friends or family you see struggling. Don't ignore them. Their lives (and the lives of others) may depend on you showing you care. RIP to the victims.
@@TempoTrack That was not free will. That was the effect of his parents' treating to him. No baby would go fucking rogue and commit mass killing, you fucking knuckle.
He grew up knowing nothing, how would you blame him if he hadn't known any better? He was the result of the poor treatment of his parents. He wanted someone to help him, he wanted to feel like someone's child, but he was never given that until then. Argue how a baby wants their mother, you fucking muppet.
@@ユイェン yes his parents contributed but excuses can't be made for his actions. Regardless of what he was going through he had the option to deal with his shit in a constructive way to better himself rather than to self destruct and bring others down with him. Everyone's experience may be subjective but I've personally seen people go through worse physically and mentally and still come out amazing people. He chose his fate its that simple.
I’m sorry, but the part where the girl had headphones, not knowing a murder was going on was truly horrific! Then for her to see her dead co workers. Bless their souls.
Idk if the survivor has seen the CCTV footage or not, I'd imagine that she has, but can you imagine watching something like that?!? Watching a co-worker/murderer stand behind you for a full 5 seconds while deciding your fate before luckily deciding to spare you and walking away... AND YOU NEVER EVEN KNEW HE WAS THERE! That's gotta be some really fuc*ed up shit to process.
i was looking for this comment. its kinda comical/cartoonish in a way, which might be why he spared her (?) idk... this is not based on anything, just kinda pops on my mind
I'm horrified that his parents were living in the same house, didn't get him help, and the mom even bought him a freaking gun. I have a hard time believing they didn't notice anything weird.
Yeah the gun thing is pretty common. Especially in community's with strong gun culture. My dad bought me my first glock at 14 and we'd go shooting after church... then again I never murdered a toy frog and date a cartoon.
Rest in Peace to all the victims 1. Victoria Brong, 25 2. Brian Hayes, 47 3. Terry Lee Sterling, 63 Gone, but not forgotten, May god rest their sweet innocent souls Rot In Hell: Randy Stair, 24
This guy was definitely very sick. But who would have taken him seriously. I've never known anyone who said they were in love with a cartoon character. I don't know either if I would have taken them seriously. He was indeed scary. How tragic.
the fact that Ember and Randy are canon in the Chris Chan Universe, and that Chris idolizes Randy should explain a lot about both of them. It is extremely disturbing
@@socatoansoldier9984 Chris is too much of a coward to go into confrontations. sure, he can drive, but he knows he'll go to jail if he actually hit someone with his car because of tard-rage (which he did). Now, he's in prison for diddling his elderly mom because the egotistical idiot has to brag to his online associates about it.
@@FG-tu4fq The dude litterally pepper sprayed a gamestop employee over the color of Sonic's arms. I wouldn't put that past him if Chris got angry enough. Don't underestimate crazy people.
"There will be a loss of human life." That quote, to me, shows enough stability, control, and knowledge to show that he would have been mentally fit to stand trial. He was not out of control, he was not completely delusional. He knew what he was doing.
Yeah thats insane to me. Randy was the disturbing, unique type of crazy, he knew what he was doing, killing a sentient, caring, loving person just like he used to be, but he destroyed them anyways.
He was completely delusional. Just a giant self absorbed jerk. You van be a crazy psychopath and a selfish asshole at the same time. No need for sanity.
His parent's or friends possibly could of prevented this from happening by just paying attention to him and the signs. If I had a brother or a friend like this I would reach out asap.
Video Speaker said that Victoria like to help people and was known to be a loving and caring individual but failed to do all those things with her coworker. A person who all he wanted and needed from her was 5 minutes of her day to say hi randy, how are you doing or can we sit down and talk. I bet Kristen was the only person who made some kind of positive impact (love and attention) with Randy within the years that caused him to spare her life. Being the reason I think why Kristen is alive today.
A lot of parents think mental illness can be corrected with hard work. A lot of parents just want their kids out of their house when they turn 18. It's sad tbh
This is the problem with materialism. If you work hard you'll be safe, have things you want, and be happy. Who you are doesn't matter. What you feel isn't important. It's what you have that matters. His father obviously felt this way. Many people in the world think of things very simply and plainly. The reality of it is that our Western notion of how we should behave and what we should be doing is squarely based on what we can achieve. We've abandoned our spiritual self. As a result, boys like this happen. When I say "spiritual" I really mean our subconscious self that deals in symbols and archetypes. Things like philosophy, religion, and direction in life. Something that this boy was navigating, obviously, and without guidance. Which is dangerous and can end badly.
This is one of the sadder and more disturbing ones honestly because he was like... half there and half gone. He knew it was a cartoon character and knew it was ridiculous but his mind had made it so dying was better for everyone, including his victims and people he influenced. Just such a weird place the brain can go
@@erikgilson1687 I've always been interested in why murderers kill. All this case has shown however, is that he was sexually obsessed with a cartoon and he chose to murder innocent people at a supermarket.
He gave so many signs he was delusional. His parents failed him tremendously. He needed to be committed for many years and how his parents ignored this is truly sad. I’m sorry for the families that lost their loved ones but even more devastated for the suffering Randy went through.
We don't know what happened in his household. Although Randy made his parents out to be horrible people that only cared about him working, that was how he perceived events, not necessarily the reality. It's clear he had severe mental issues that were never addressed. How much his parents actually knew about his mental state, how much they tried to help, and what resources they had to rely on is unclear. The parents might not have had the knowledge or resources to help him, as this is often the case, even more so back when Randy was a child. And when he was a child, there was no way to know things would get this bad. It wasn't until after multiple traumas experienced without proper support that his mental health took an obvious nosedive and predicting what would happen would be possible. In fact, it's likely, if the traumas never occurred or he had a strong support system to help him cope with them, the end would have been different. But regardless, he was an adult by then. There would have been very little the parents, or anyone, could do. It's easy to blame the parents, and I'd bet money the parents were blamed every time he acted out. People often blame bad parenting instead of mental illness... but often... it's a result of the collective failures of the community and society. It's not really anyone's fault, but the majority of people involved contributed to it, most likely without meaning to.
@@kazbutler yes partially, they were huge loud signs over and over for a long time that his parents ignored completley and was only focused on him being a "normal" productive member of society how they seen him instead of truly listening and observing him and all the huge things and signs that were there for a while.
@@tomkee4479 think the only problem with coming to those conclusions is most of what we know about him and what he did come from Randy himself. No one has asked his parents what happened we just watch the tapes of a delusional kid telling us the ins and outs of his delusional world view and how he saw it go down. We should trust very little of it
Aka my weeb ss lil bro, almost the disaster that happen from, said under rock of a weeboo dealing with that. Ohh can't eve express the B.S on that crap.
If your friend starts talking about he is genuinely in love with a fictional character and also begins making his own animated series based on that character and believes that he can be reincarnated into the series he made, you should be concerned
Not concerned, just cut the fucker from your life and nothing bad will happen to you. At this point, that clown is already lost to the forest floor. Such individuals are beyond saving. And only warrant and deserve mockery.
@@NKA23 I mean Airpods do block out A lot and she probably was blasting the music, but with how small the supermarket looked you'd think she would feel the reverb or the bounce off the walls from the shotgun blasts. But regardless she's gonna be scared to ever use headphones again
@@WhatExcellentBoiledPo-ta-toes 100% was thinking the same . If she listens to music with some heavy bass or drums being played then it couldve been just passed off in her mind. I mean things happen quick she never would've thought that'd happen
@@brainderp808 He chose his path. You’ve got much less to work than you think when it comes to some of the mentally ill, I’ve felt it firsthand. Some people strive to be unhappy, angry, and bitter at the world. Some feel so entitled to ‘be who they want/their true self’ that it tears them apart inside when society rejects their nonconformity. Even given opportunities, love, support, some people let their self pity and hate consume them. I feel nothing for them as a result, they could not pull themselves out of it, and you can’t force someone to. Sometimes I feel mild pity for what could’ve have been, but there is little sense in wasting pity on that when there are innocents involved.
@@glizzygladiator8055 I understand your cynicism. I really do. I believe some of those to be true, like some people really are hopeless and conceited, rude and ignorant, and should be avoided. But where I disagree is that I think there’s more people that can be saved than you might think. Some people might be rude and hopelessly stupid, but I feel they are worthy of redemption. They haven’t gone and killed or hurt people yet yanno?
@@brainderp808 I have been down far darker paths than most. I will never have forgiveness for their actions. I haven’t forgiven myself for many things I did when I was young, there’s no way to forgive some actions. Your decisions are your own, no matter how you feel you have no right to enact pain and sorrow unto anything. No matter how the world has ‘beaten you down’, it is up to you to interpret. You don’t even have to look at it so negatively, that is also a choice. At least one ‘good’ thing happens every single day, look out for, and enjoy the good. It’s easiest to forget, and lasts the least amount of time. I think shitty days last longer in your brain so you can avoid doing similar things, I keep that in mind in a positive way.
Anyone obsessed with columbine isn’t just edgy , they are completely batshit crazy . Watch out for those types , can’t believe the parents didn’t realize this .
Thats not true at all...im a columbine researcher but that doesnt mean i want to go and murder people, i just like true crime, dont associate us with those people
In my hometown there was a horrific case of this girl being lured into the forest by her ex girlfriend then buried alive. The killers wrote all about it in journals and still mock the family from prison, it’s pretty awful Edit: her name was Brandy Stevens-Rosine if anyone wants to look into it. I met her mother when I graduated; really nice lady, and I felt awful to see her cry
i notice a pattern with these people. They often start on a downward spiral, listening to the untrue delusions within themselves, and feel they are completely alone in feeling that way, and the only way out is chaos and tragedy. I hope that those feeling this way watch these videos, understand that you are not alone in feeling this way, but most importantly, you can see their signs of falling, in yourself, and get help before you do anything that ends your life or others.
Yes...excellent comment. It's like they're having on air psychotic breakdowns! Like the film "Network." Who was watching his channel? We must look out for one another. Life is not a f*cking video game.
Yeah that pattern is actual mental symptoms following their usual pattern. Delusion, psychosis, etc are typically problems involving schotzoaffective disorders. Sadly they don't choose to follow the spiral, unless they get early intervention their brain will deteriotate and follow the symptoms
The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously.
@@jamesmayle4712 While I believe in freedom of speech, I feel *all* your many words may, or may not have - fallen upon deaf ears. Save your preaching for church
He spared her because she was a music loving female. Edit: I also think the fact that she didn't notice the carnage added to his deciding not to kill her.
Yeah, I agree. It was probably her innocence, just dancing or humming along, working away, which ultimately saved her life. It's that simplicity, of pure ignorance to the chaos and intended doom all around, just in her own little bubble, that made him decide in 5 seconds, it wasn't going to be his shotgun blast that would burst it. He did have a fleeting moment of discernment, maybe a flicker of empathy. Or quite possibly, just a recognition of childlike innocence with which he could relate but, unfortunately, could not emulate.
This is a year old video but, I remember hearing about this case a while back and didn't care much for it, thinking it was just another youtube drama. After after watching this I can't help but feel extremely sorry for the guy. He has a lot of the same issues I have, at least it looks like it, but he never got the help I did. That last suicide video of his was honestly heartbreaking when he asked how it had become like this. Of course, there's no condoning his actions, he took the lives of innocents for such delusional reason, and had he not ended his own he would deserve to have severe psych help from behind bars. But at the same time, idk, I just can't help but feel like if one thing went out of place in my life I could've been like him. He was so obviously lonely and didn't know what to do. Had someone paid attention and noticed sooner, maybe none of this would've happened and I just can't help but think that's just so tragic.
"Who ever thought a cartoon character would cause this to happen" is such an unnerving phrase because it sounds almost self aware, but unfortunately after getting this far into the video I know that's not the intent.
Yeah thats whats freaky about Randy. He knew what he was doing, he just didnt care if it would hurt others. He wanted attention, and he mostly considered his meger youtube fanbase as a failure, so he did the only thing that he thought would make people care about him. Thats the sad thing about crazy people, many are only cared about until its too late, and Randy knew this. That doesnt justify what he did, though.
@@jawaela Exactly. Somehow they try to rationalize that the fact they murdered people is never their fault. Call me crazy, but I've always held the actual murderers responsible.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I think it's very harmful to simplify his actions as merely wanting attention. He was obviously not well and despite having some level of self awareness, believed in what he was saying to a certain degree.
Watching things like this really makes me thankful that my parents got me therapy, because I was an outcast kid who became obsessed with a cartoon character as well and I got so deep I had my own fantasies of killing myself and joining them. You don't realise how far gone you are until you step outside of it and realise that you live in a completely different world. I dunno, it's hard to explain but it really does engulf you when psychological stuff also becomes a factor. I had really bad episodes as a teen, to the point where this world felt completely alien, like the other world was the real world and this one was just a hellscape I was forced to live in until I had enough courage to "wake up", aka end my life and return to the other.
Duuuuude, I went through the same shit. When I was abused by my Stepfather, holy fuck did I become obsessed with one character in particular; Link from Legend of Zelda and even became obsessed with the Pokémon universe. I was convinced that if I died, I'd be met with Link and Professor Oak and given a starter Pokémon, and be able to traverse the Pokémon world while fighting monsters and Ganon with Link. My Mother got me help and therapy at 17, and goddammit am I grateful she did. It's all fun and games until you realize you were wrong.
Chasing fantasy is an option; its called writing, painting, or art to show it off. Running away from reality is not an option, its a choice. Taking away others right to chose, is wrong, unfair, and selfish.. He didn't get far where his bonds put him.
All they needed to do watch his TH-cam videos and they would have known exactly what he was thinking and planning, instead they bought him a shotgun. Amurica
@@mikevignola4213 All parents need to start peeping around their children's rooms when they're not home. Especially if you have a weird looking skinny son who mutilates animals / toys and has no friends.)
Considering i immediately thought of Randy when they announced ember would be in the new Nick All Star Battle game, i think this is a case like the Noid, where the association to a crime driven by the perpetrator's relationship to a character ends up making every future appearance feel morbid
Parents of the century... Also, don't you need to be psychiatrically evaluated before you can operate or purchase a gun in USA? I'm assuming the mom had a license and instead of using it herself she gave it to him. But even then he bought the other one himself
@@elpretender1357 in the states you can legally buy a gun at 16 im pretty sure and they don't do any psychological background checks they really just ask oh do you have any mental illness they can literally say no and they could have a gun right then and their they don't take all the percussions they need. I don't understand on why in the USA people can buy guns at 16 but can't drive buy cigarettes or alcohol yet like smh
@@fortunecookie8312 that is definitely not case, in order to buy gun you have to do interviews and pass a thorough background check. The whole process takes months and it’s definitely not easy. Also, in a lot of states you have to be 21 to even buy a gun now
@@Jeremias9453 Don‘t bother with these comments. You can, just by the tone of their voice, tell that they have no understanding of mental health, but refuse to admit it and act like they know everything. It‘s actually frustrating seeing people like this.
This is one of the strangest cases that I’ve covered to date, Randy Stair’s fantasy was a very disturbing one. If you’re impatient or unsure about the length of this video, skip to 14:37.
Thank you for watching another case by Coffeehouse Crime today folks, our next case will be an international one. What do you think about Randy Stair? Was this all avoidable? Please let me know below!
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Another great story of a really lousy situation. 🇨🇦 Sincere thank you.
I think had Randy gotten the help he needed, he most likely wouldn't have done what he did, but it's hard to say because there are some cases where people with disillusions sought help and they still snapped for whatever reason
This was 100% avoidable! He literally posted his delusions for years. What I really want to know is where were his parents? The people closest to him failed him. It's not like he was suffering from a mental illness in secret. And the fact that he got the shotgun from his own mother? I'm sorry, but it's cases like these that I feel other people should also be held accountable and take responsibility for the actions of the offender. Thanks, Adrian for more awesome content! Keep up the great work! 😊
The fact that he blocked all the exits to make sure no one escapes is so terrifying
@Owoade Dolu what
@Owoade Dolu thats actually rasict?
@Owoade Dolu because inner cities in the us, africa/the middle east are bastions of sanity, and low crime. Gimme a break. People everywhere do messed up shit. Dont make it about race. Every race does horrible things.
@@bobamus1987 race doesn t even exist,it s a social construct
@@emanuelmaldoileacont8253 bro dafuc? Do you even know what it means???
I find it really really weird that his parents had no idea he was acting different. Even his face looks different. He looks lost and not present.
I agree his look changed drastically
@@prestonmcmahon3176 i also wonder if his parents were watching his content
Probably not
It’s so easy to not see what’s in front of you if it doesn’t fit your reality, parents of children sexually abused by family members, abused partners who don’t see their children are also being abused, trump won the election supporters...🤦♀️
Sound like they didnt give much a shit about him other than getting a job and moving out. Some people shouldnt have children
people keep things to themselves
"And then, he found Ember." oh, that's a nice nam-
"Danny Phantom is an American animation TV Series..." oh no
Oh dear god…
@NekoPop anime girls are just as 2 dimensional...
@NekoPop Anime, cartoons, what's the difference? Their all 2d to me.
@@chaulz7777 the difference is that in western cartoon world they realized about 10-20 years ago that cartoons for adults can be a thing.
Japan realized that in the 60s-70s. so anime has soooo much more experience in adult writing it is stupid.
EDIT: and its not even just experience but also commitment. most western cartoons intended for adults still aim for a teen audience as well.
I said the same thing
What's so amazingly tragic yet ironic is the fact that the whole point of Ember's character is to manipulate and brainwash people into mindlessly obeying her, eventually having them commit terrible actions.
Like you can't make this up, it's absurd.
Actually, I think that that would make it more likely he go to this extreme rather than be something to help him come to his senses.
Believers of various types do have times of lucidity when they realise to some degree that their beliefs are bullshit. They usually go back to the beliefs after the "crisis of faith" or whatever, but it matters a lot how the belief system explains how to interpret "crises of faith" or if the belief system addresses it at all.
Imo Ember's brainwashing probably actually gave him a crutch in the form of an "interpretation" when his fervor would waver.
@@goblin-night For me, personally, I think the most tragic part of this whole mess is that EGS was, from everything I have seen, really good and creative. It completely sucks that he decided to murder his co-workers and himself rather than actually making Embers Ghost Squad into a real thing that he could be proud of. With a little time and effort, it could have been picked up as a Danny Phantom spinoff or something similar, or it could have gotten him noticed by animation studios and by now we could have something else just as cool, or even better.
The loss of life in these cases is always tragic. For me, it is the loss of Randy Stair's potential that really makes this case unique, and sadder than a lot of the other ones that Coffeehouse Crime and other similar channels have covered. I'd be insanely curious to find a multiverse where he didn't kill anyone but rather was able to channel it into his creativity, artwork, and storytelling and see what that universe looked like.
@@zoegartham312 The fact that he took out others out with him in his twisted fantasy is the most tragic part for me. I think if you had a spotlight into most people's minds you'd find talent.
@@InvincibleSummer-s8p I understand your point. I even agree with you. Thank you for sharing your opinion with me. I like having deep discussions about topics such as these; I always get different perspectives and learn to see things differently. I've seen the case of Randy Stair a number of times now on various channels, and the vast majority of the comments are about the tragedy of the shooting and the loss of innocent life, which is indeed incredibly tragic, and I by no means wish to downplay that. I'm simply trying to point out that it wasn't the only tragedy here.
Further, for whatever reason, Adrian didn't mention two pieces of information that I found odd that he would leave out, as they are directly related to why Randy did what he did. The first was that he was at least into cross-dressing, and may have been a closeted Trans individual. He was found wearing his mother's clothing at various times, and iirc that negatively affected his relationship with his parents and was a primary reason he even considered having the shooting at the market.
The second thing is that he was trying for months, maybe longer, to get recognized for his talent by various animation studios, and he kept getting denied. That quite possibly was the straw that broke the camel's back, as the expression goes... and if it was indeed that, then his talent deserves more recognition than it generally gets.
Idk though, these are just my thoughts on the subject. Thank you again for your opinion. I appreciate it!
@zoegartham312 He seemed sexually confused for sure, liking my little pony porn and cartoon girls. He could have been closeted gay, but I don't believe anyone should be trans.
Ironic that in Ember's episode her punishment is to be followed around by a lonely loser ghost who keeps calling out her name and fawning over her. I guess he didn't pay much attention to his Waifu's story.
Uuum.. that is scary 😳
Plot twist: that loser ghost is his spirit
@@Komachichuu 🤯🤯
@@tomassive fr
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No one noticed how detached from reality he became..? His eyes are empty, the lights are on, but no one's home..
For real. His mental degradation was evident in his videos.
That's the reverse actually, he ascend way to quick and because he was not prepared for the adult life and being alone ruined his life and the life of the workers.
i'm sure someone noticed but with it being 2021, people don't give a shit. People do things for the likes not because they care.
@@ayumu-senpaii 2021? this was a few years ago.
I love this comment so much oh my god
It's kinda scary how his own parents that live under the same roof didn't even try to get help for him even after all the red flags popping up.
I think it was just his dad with him, they got divorced. In one of the videos he ranted about how his dad, the store manager, was on his nerve at home.
When I was going through serious mental illness my family didn’t want to get me help. After all what would the neighbors think? I almost wound up like this poor idiot. Thankfully I got help before it was too late.
They just said “yo that’s pretty cool here is a shotgun” like dafuq maybe take the guns away while he’s suffering and give them back when he’s ok? Their is a pro gun mental health group where if you are feeling suicudal you can ask them to hold onto your guns while you get help so you don’t take your own life and then after you are feeling better they give you your guns back it’s a way of not demonizing people with mental illness by forcefully taking their guns away and instead a more friendly solution
Dana W I find this one proticularly uncomfortable because of how normal he seems where it feels like he really was someone who just was suffering. But I’m kinda glad he’s dead because of how dangerous he was. But I’m also sympathetic with his struggle
Dana W the shooter in another video was clearly not suffering mentally and meanwhile this guy was. I think he really should have went to a institution after that shooting to maybe get some kind of help
This really is tragic just because of how long it went on and all the signals he was sending out without anyone stopping to say "Something seriously wrong with Randy, we should get him help."
Then again… do you really think someone as insane as this can get helped? I mean he let a cartoon drawing run his life.
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh Yes, unsupported this was inevitable, but it feels like there were numerous times a friend or parent could have tried staging an intervention, or straight up called the cops on him.
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh he wouldn't have let a cartoon drawing run his life if he was getting any kind of professional help or had anyone in his life to sit him down and tell him how freakish and insane that is
hell, if he just spent some time on discord, he might have gotten bullied into suicide before going this far
@@katatonikbliss Nope, because of his ego. Ego is the main reason why so many mentally ill lolcows refuse assistance. Note his behaviour when several animators refused to help him make his terrible and cringeworthy school shooting cartoon, he threw a pathetic hissy fit and threw them under the bus.
Lost causes such as Randy exist and you can't bully these people beyond the brink because of their rampant arrogance.
I find it absolutely insane that his mother could see his mental health deteriorating and bought him a shotgun. What was she thinking?
As a mum, I am always so confused how parents are so disconnected from their children's mental state. Children go through phases, but suicide, homicide and romantic attachment to a cartoon character character are not any of them.
Indeed, its baffling. I am hyper aware of my children's emotional states. We also home school; public schools are bad for children's overall health imo.
Yeah it is super strange to me too. But I've come to observe that not all parents or families are emotionally aware or connected, as if emotions are too scary or difficult for them to handle. They can only deal with the surface, and surface is the only thing that matters to them. It's like a hit or miss how their kids will actually turn out in the end.
But then again, it must be really difficult to do something against it.
Maybe he kept that part of himself a secret from his parents? There's a lot of things my parents don't know about me, and didn't know I was going through suic*dal thoughts when I did.
Well said! My life revolved around how they were doing!
"My son started worshipping a fictional character and became a deranged lunatic, so I gave him a shotgun" alright then
First amendment
@@souljastation5463 Was a mistake
@@elpretender1357 nah. but with great power comes great responsibility. and i aint even American.
or.... his parents knew he is suicidal hoping he could just take his life and get over it.
@@souljastation5463 or is it 2nd amendment ?
If your friends tell you that they're not only in love with a fictional character, but that the character loves them too and understands them, and they have a connection, don't make fun of them. Get them professional help. They have a disorder. Crushing on fictional characters is fine, but believing they are real and have feelings for you is a delusion.
Organized delusions only. We need Jesus
@hell talking about religion?
Remember kids. Your Waifus aren't real
@@sirloin6856 thanks for informing 😞
remember kiddies, cartoon girls are like god: works of fiction.
"Hi, anti-social, weird, dark son, Happy Birthday. Here's a shotgun!" Great mom!
Ameeericaaaa
America vibes
Thats america to ya
FYI most gun owners like me are capable to control ourselves and be responsible gun owners.
@@i_am_chronic3997 Its too late now; every and any good, bad and/or indifferent person in America can access a firearm on basically a whim. Do you know what a gun is? It's an engine of war.. When you wake up to the division being sewn in the USA by the powers that be, you'll realise it's never going to change.. Thank God I live in England!
The United States was build atop a burial ground, does any of the chaos surprise you??
I’m finding it hard to believe that his family didn’t see any warnings signs before this happened
They didn't see him at all most likely. Too embarrassed to spare a thought.
i mean usually you cant. people seem ok then blow up one day.
You’d be surprised. I think at first he hid a lot of this stuff from his family, and then started leaving hints that he thought himself as a woman. Apparently they didn’t seem to care/notice
they knew he was off or not right in the head probably, but you would never assume or think that your own child would do something like this.
You can’t read humans like books. Some deceive. A small amount are serious.
I'm sure we all had crushes on animated characters growing up, but this is 5 levels too far
Exactly. Damn.
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Who didn't love Betty Boop ??? LOL
LOL yup my cartoon crush was _Daphne_ on Scooby Doo, lol. But then I grew up. And then dammit along comes _Jessica Rabbit_ hahahaha 😲. Srsly though; I wonder if it all could've been stopped in its tracks by an in-person intervention by Butch Hartman.. He could'a been all, 'Yeah - but dude - jeeziskreist! - it's just a fukkin' cartoon character I drew!!'
5? Try 500
Kid lives at home with parents. Parents ignore all signs of mental health deterioration. Mom even buys him a gun. WTF is wrong with this family?
Yeah, I'm sure he went on and on to his parents about his animated girlfriend and all the rest.
Amazing how everyone here seems to know all about his relationship with his parents based on the few hours of video he left behind. Because no kid in history ever spent time by themselves on their computer for hours a day but still had a normal life and parent relationship. No, thats not possible and doesn't describe millions of teenagers right now.
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They probably attributed his deteriorating mental health as either an excuse to be lazy and address his lack of growth or an act of defiance as a stubborn son. I’m guessing that from his final message to dad
Actually I’m really surprised by how behaviors of his parents are similar to my parents’s. It honestly scares me how much I could relate to him and understand him. I genuinely hope he would’ve had someone to reach out and help him out. I teared up a bit at the end of the video. I NEVER mean to justify his actions but Rest In Peace to the 3 victims and to randy himself as well.
Randy's obsession with Amber reminds me a lot of another case: The Final Fantasy House. That one did not claim any lives (at least not directly), but it did cause an immense amount of trauma on a rather large amount of people through years of abuse, all because of a deluded individual, who was convinced they were the reincarnation of the character Jenova from Final Fantasy VII and all their victims were reincarnations of other characters from the game. This person still shows up from time to time, having jumped to new fandoms, but always following the exact same pattern.
I remember that.
j thought that was an urban legend omg
There was another kid that was obsessed with pony horse cartoon
That's so similar to andrew Blake.
I know they showed up in Hannibal fandom. Last I heard, they fled with an underaged teenager still brainwashed by them
What disgusts me is that he knew his victims, knew they were harmless, he knew they had family and probably had met them before. And yet he didn't care about their lives at all... so disgusting.
@@tjeym8897 👁👄👁
Most murders occur by a person one knows...
@@tjeym8897 well good thing that's not my name
so if he didnt know them then it wouldnt b disgusting?
Stay strapped or get clapped by a psychopath.
Yes, it was only a rubber toy. But in light of his later actions, I found the killing of his frog friend very unnerving. Pure sadism.
Imagine if the frog was a real living being. He literslly wantef to take the life of an animal just because some cartoon character that does not exist supposedely told him to do it. This dude could be classified as a simp considering he is willing to do anything so satisfy a fictional character.
He thought of the frog as more than just a toy. So to him he really was killing a friend
Is it wrong to say that the frog death was funny
@@Lego-Batman18 knowing his mental state, no
@@heistingcrusader_ad3223
For mine yes
One has to think those closest to him would have a clue this man needed serious help - but his mother gave him a shotgun...?! Apparently those closest to him were in fact clueless - perhaps criminally so. You probably suggest the best advice- you see an individual acting out like this on line - tell the authorities.
Facts
I wonder when all the right wing crap factored in? Because of the incel angle?
@@joanodom2104 huh? Why you making this political?
when you don't care about your own life and family, why caring about others ? I was telling myself that those people could at least try to kill some horrible persons (make your own list) ?
I’m sure the pricks around him needed help also. Or perhaps jail.
The kid had a very good voice. Had things gone differently, he could have had a fine career as a voice actor.
He was legitimately talented with his acting and humor. It's so sad to see people throw themselves away like that. And even worse that he took others with him
@@Matt-hh2ye he didn’t really throw himself away. He was broken and no matter how much he showed everyone exactly how broken he was, no one cared enough to help him out. Sometimes you can be so broken you can’t help yourself. His actions are reprehensible, but he certainly wasn’t in control of making sound decisions or of just living in the same universe as the rest of us. He didn’t throw himself away. He was helpless and everyone around failed him and failed the future victims too. Blame them, not him. It’s the callous that are responsible here.
He looked like he could have been the son of Bill Medley from the 1960s musical group The Righteous Brothers.
@@Spooky_Platypusinteresting take… I agree with some things you said but he has to take some responsibility for his actions. His dad gave him a job and in his last video he just didn’t say the greatest things about his dad. I have no idea how his dad treated him but I’m willing to bet this kid disregarded any help that came his way. He even said “no one understands me”. I’m sorry, but I’m not giving into my kid and supporting him if he tells me he wants to be intimate with a cartoon character.
Strange thing to say
This video was recommended to me today. I’ve had a dark mental state for most of my life. So long that I can’t remember a time where I’ve felt at peace. It’s been eating me alive. This video gave me the kick in the ass that I needed. Time for therapy.
hey Namia, hope your doing better today? just remember feelings are like the weather, they don't last forever, take care from lockdown NZ :)
Have you gotten the help you spoke about?
No need it changes you as a person. You are ment to go down this path and find your squad.
Philippians 4:6-7
So are you still alive...did you make it out of the dark
Very strange how he's almost completely lucid about how batshit he is, but that introspection never breaks him out of the craziness.
I don't think its craziness, I think he was unhappy and affected by the shit that happened to him, and he didn't care anymore. That may be craziness medically speaking. But yeah it's not something you can get out of like you wake up from a bad dream. He was into that depressed mindset and he would have needed real treatment and to change his way of living to get out of it
@@jonas8993 I've been depressed, but I never started thinking the afterlife will involve joining a bunch of cartoon characters I personally created. He definitely had other mental issues in addition to the depression.
@@Oujouj426 yeah for sure, he had other things going on, that said, people like to believe that this kind of things is far from them and that there must be "one thing" that explains such incidents. But the reality is that often it doesn't require a lot... I've been depressed and even tho I've never planned on hurting other people, I could feel that once you start feeling so bad, you feel like you don't matter anymore, and other people and things don't matter anymore too. I know if I just had one more reason to feel angry or something I might have felt like he did. And about the fictionnal characters, that too doesn't require madness, people have more or less imagination, when they're happy they write the harry potter books, when they're not they might as well include it into their reason to die
Depression is faulty thinking. I'm no psychiatrist, but I would say, purely based on his videos, that he had depression with psychotic features. He was deluded, and I'm disturbed that he wasn't brought to a psychiatrist by his family. It's shocking how many people will brush off worrying statements from loved ones as, "Oh no, they would never actually do something to harm themselves/others." I would rather my friend be annoyed with me because I tried to get them help, than have my friend be dead, and live with the guilt that I could have done something more.
I wouldn't call it strange, just tragic and sickening at the same time. Social and emotional isolation will do that to you, especially if you've got other things going on in your mind.
He didn’t have to do the homies froggy and whale like that
fr switched up on froggy his day one like that
It be your own sometime.
Despite butchering Froggy and Whale to death, Randy did seem to like Froggy as a character. His murder was actually a "transformation" as her character was brought back as a human female character. Randy describes her personality as kind, caring, compassionate...but she is also totally ok with killing people.
Yeah Randys work is weird.
bro whale and groggy did not deserve that fr they was the homies and they are the real homies fr fr we will miss you froggy and whale
Bros before hoes. Nuff said.
Edit: especially if they are imaginary "girls".
My heart always feels so heavy in cases like these. People died in the name of someone's psychosis and delusions because they weren't able to get help even after displaying so many warning signs. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.
In the US mental help is hard to get but guns are easy. It’s a great recipe for mass murder.
Imagine being that one girl he spared, like what an unbelievable mind fuck
I'm sure they showed her the CCTV footage... Imagine yourself peacefully listening to some music, while a derranged maniac armed with 2 shotguns stands right behind you... Ugh.
That is some horror movie level crap
I wonder why he chose to not kill her when he clearly was in a psychotic break? Perhaps he had a crush on her?
@@annieyu72 I wondered this myself and ended up drawing the same conclusion
@@annieyu72 For sure. Or, maybe instead of a crush, the other coworkers he just didn’t like? And maybe she was the one coworker he did. Not necessarily romantic though. I was in a similar situation except I talked to the guy every time I came in because everyone else would make fun of him for no reason at all. Different fate though, he’s in jail.
Man, this whole SITUATION is a mind fuck, indeed. Jesus.
I wonder if he spared her because she was listening to music, since he was obsessed with a music-playing ghost.
I felt like he didn't shoot her because she wasn't aware he was there, thus taking away the fear factor and the thrill people get from invoking that kind of fear.
@@Jaevan he could quite easily have ragged out her ear phones and scared her to death though. so? i am not sure that really makes sense, although I did think along similar lines at first myself.
yup.
i could imagine he spared her just because he found her cute or something
yea kinda odd. its tragic but that person is really lucky.
R.I.P Victoria, Brian and Terry. These are the names we need to remember
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Who are they?
@@mrkingdrago1013 the victims of randy's killing spree
@novak I have no idea
And don't forget froggy and whale
How did no one see the signs of how unhinged this man was.
Exactly. It baffles me how he was not detained for mental illness. He was clearly a neglected, ostracised person whether intentional or not. People go under the radar and it’s really sad. People who are close to people need to do better.
Take a look at all of the documentaries on this channel and beyond.. they’re nobodies of no consequence. They mean little to none to the poeple around him. That’s where their ‘pain’ comes from and their narcissism develops. They’ll think ‘if they cant see my importance, i will’. Then comes the superiority complex and blah blah blah and then blam blam blam.. mistakes are made in the present, impacting the future, but are only viewed in the past.
I took an interest in his case and saw many of his videos and mostly the last ones
and actually he explained that how apathetic the world was towards his cries
He was basically crying for help and no one cared especially his parents who where totally uninterested and didn't even take him seriously at all
I'm only saying that because that total ignorance and apathy was the reason that angered and motivated him to commit these things
@@jackalhead7433 He should've turned to God for help, instead of murdering people, stop victimizing him.
@@TheArtGuyChannel Which god?
It doesn’t take physical or sexual abuse or complete neglect to cause a child to become depressed, lonely, or violent. Emotional neglect, simply not being part of a child’s life is enough.
....... smh all them are excuses for a killer to say why they killed to kill like this in cold blood is a different type of evil for you to believe in God you most believe in the devil as well and this is proof the other side is their
@@darrellsaunders6089 Thanks for being one of those dickheads that stop society from moving forward :)
@@darrellsaunders6089 im an atheist and dont need to make excuses for human filth. they exist, sadly, and they always have. only answer is to pick up on early warning signs and nip it in the butt when you can.
Exactly, I think people overdramatize some of these unhinged individuals by assuming things like trauma. Sometimes, being lonely and ostracized by people can lead to incidents like this. Elliot Rogers is a good example.
Same with adults
But, I would never kill
“That all changed when Ember came into the picture”
Me: Oh he got a girlfriend, okay
“Danny Phantom was a cartoon series…”
Me: Oh Jesus not THAT Ember… he went full psycho
No no no, he went full GHOST.
😂
megatron was a far greater cartoon villain anyway
@@ianv.1470 🐐
Wheres Is My Life As Teenage Robot?
So no one decided something was up when their child started worshipping a cartoon
Right? Not even the main character but a filler...
I bet they did, but nobody predicts an outcome as awful as what happened
I knew plenty of kids growing up that liked cartoons a little to much but they never ended up like this dude lol. His parents probably just thought he was weird but not a killer
look at all the weaboos today
@@Koda716 key being "kids growing up", this dude was 18+. Super odd....
I’ve heard about Randy Stair. He was actually fricken insane. I’ve made my own alternate universe where it’s just me and my friends going on random and intense adventures. I’ve never actually been extremely obsessed with my universe like Randy did. (Also, this video has way more info on Randy’s life and more footage than other videos I’ve watched about him!)
thats actually really fucking adorable
The fact you didn't smirk or laugh during the whole Amber thing shows real professionalism. You've done a fantastic job on this channel bro. Here's to hoping your success keeps going.
saw other youtuber does that and it's really annoying.. good thing I found this channel
@@lorelei9884 exactly
Did not one of his family or even acquaintances monitor his channel? My goodness it's not like he was bashful about murdering people
He left a lot of clues everywhere actually...I think he wanted to get caught and be given help in a weird way
Thinking about it I think his family didn't care about him
there was actually a girl he knew online who knew about it and even posted a vague message about it on twitter right before it happened i forgot her name but shes mentioned in some other videos
@@guilhermehank4938 that's the only right answer really. He literally said on TH-cam I'm going to shoot up the grocery store. Nobody who wants to get away with it does that.
Why would they watch such cringe shit? I sure as hell wouldn't
Man literally dedicated his life to being cringe that it literally drove him to murderous insanity.
Yeah lmao
2 much
@@casual_loser6733 ur profile pic perfectly describes anyone's reaction to that comment.
@@vladimiradidas1945 yeah its subaru traumatised from re zero, i found that funny so i used this
You got ifunny I bet which is good a lot better than cringey reddit
As somebody who has struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts most of my life, I kind of get it. You feel like nobody understands you and they never will, but if he would have just tried talking to somebody open and honestly things could have been different. Could be a friend, family member; just anyone.
As someone who - like you struggled with depression when you, even early adult years --I do not get it. So many of us experience depression and suicidal thoughts but we think of exiting our lives NOT harming anyone else.
i fucking hate it when people start talking about "their" problems nobody gives a shit
The thing that bothers me here is that no matter how many people say "if you're struggling mentally, get help", nobody who is that delusional will seek help themself, and when they do, help is often shockingly difficult to get.
So true!
Ikr!? Also helping hands are given to rich tbh.. a therapist costs a fortune nowadays. Also men don't get support as such as a woman does. Saying it from my experience
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@@Jiishaan Literally true. My rich boss has a personal therapist and is drugged up on various mental health medications just to stay functional that she could obviously afford because her family already was rich. These same privileged people will crap on the poor and working class for struggling mentally and have this "work harder and pull yourself up by your bootstraps " mentality when they literally can't afford the resources they have and its a mental and financial cycle
Yup. I had an episode of psychosis when I was dealing with a brain injury. I’m a rather level headed skeptic. But it is so hard to dismiss your senses. I thought I was abducted by aliens and in some sort of bizarre experiment lab. I knew it was impossible but I saw it, heard it, felt it, etc. Paranoia is part of it so you assume the worse and react like you are in danger, even when someone is trying to help. But if he had close people he may have listened early on. However, he didn’t seem to like having close people in his life and there is nothing you can do if you aren’t close enough, even in the beginning.
Mum:
*Sees how much of a nutcase her son is*
Also mum:
"Here's a shotgun son, have a great time"
Merica
Merica
Honestly she probably didn’t even notice what he was doing. He probably was so introverted, she left him alone. This is why parents should be involved in their kids lives. She would have noticed it sooner had she been looking
@@aurorahw7085 My daughter was extremely introverted growing up. It never stopped her father or myself to make sure we knew what was going on. She's a healthy adult because we took parenting our child seriously and it was always our priority. More parents need to do the same. It doesn't matter how angry your kids get.
@@aurorahw7085 Still, why in the world would you gift someone a shotgun
He seems super self aware at points, like he knew it was a cartoon character that caused this insane psychological break, but he was totally fine with it
Uh the cartoon didn't cause anything.
All that was his choice to bond and escape to.
Judging by the whale character he was abused.
And the Frog was a obvious personification of his self.
He just chose his creation over his reality..
It always makes me nervous when a Killer’s childhood sound remarkably like my childhood.
Being a quiet kid is ok ,just dont dedicate ur life to cringe,and meet ppl
Imagine the survivor guilt his one coworker must have felt. I hope she's doing okay after all of that trauma.
Probably never turns her back on anyone again...
She was like "Rihanna saved my life"
Efff her
@@vond5829 is that supposed to be funny?
I wonder what kind of noise cancelling headphones she was wearing. She couldn't hear several shotgun blasts until she took them off.
"It's just attention seeking" and "I know them they wouldn't actually do anything" has ended a lot of lifes in our society. If they are saying thing publicly they want someone to reach out to them because they honestly have no hope to help themselves. Just because it makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean you can't inform someone who is capable of helping.
Fucking A, my friend! It's better to be wrong and report someone who doesnt need help rather than let someone who is serious do as they will. People should treat them more like how authorities treat bomb threats, treat it like it's real until you are 100% sure it's not.
This.
THIS.
Your this is bigger.
@@left-2-write28 Being a high risk individual myself I can't express the pain I felt everytime someone said I was trying to get attention. It was at school that I got it the worse. The amount of times children who are getting bullied get expelled is sickening. Punishing kids who are already being picked on and hurt at school is the complete opposite of helping.A lot of the time these kids are being abused at home too. Expelling them just gives their abusers more reasons to abuse them. Everthing I went through led to a suicide attempt that put me in a coma for a few weeks. I am one of the lucky. I should be dead and their could of likely been other people around me who would have been hurt too. That was years ago and I have gotten help. It took a lot of bad things to happen for me to finally be put into intense therapy and get better. I am a rare case. Thats why this is so broken. Its always avoidable if we listen to the early signs.
that scene of him killing the frog was terrifyingly screwed up considering he was stabbing a toy
And himself enough need 3 surgeries....
Could have been seeing it as his Father.
@@theTrend7 bhhhhodv
Wasn't there a Southpark episode where Cartman was also killing off his toys as a transitioning?
@@schmarrenheimer80 yeah
No, Randy didn't actually burn Froggy and Whale. The box was empty when he burned it. In later videos, Froggy and Whale can be seen idling under Randy's bed
“His finger was permanently bent so this now meant he could work night shifts at the supermarket” why tho?
Asking the real questions
Maybe, he could use the bend finger as an excuse for avoid most crowded hours. Like "people will stare at my hand and it's bad, woukd be better a night swift" or something like that
If it was considered a minor physical disability, the store might have allowed him to work hours with fewer people because of accommodations made for disabled people. I don't really know the true answer but that was my assumption.
They make the unsightly cripples cover the night shift apparently lol
I'm glad someone asked because I damn sure was thinking this too
Interesting case. As a therapist I really appreciate the way that you honor the victims and hold people accountable for their actions/part. Great balance and always interesting thank you!
I feel like that rant he made to his dad about how he never tried to understand him was his cry for help. Like he legit looked sad and disappointed when he said those words.
He really needed help and medication.
Such is life for the mentally ill. Being ill doesnt make you cool, it deters people and the ones you love away from you.
Don't put this on the fucking parents, the kid was a crazed lunatic who was past getting help
@@Sceptnado then whos supposed to support and help him? whos suppsoed to guide him and the parents if its not their job to look after their son? what parent gives their kid a shotgun??? they clearly neglected and didnt do anything to help him or listen to him and i hope they live with guilt for what happened for the rest of their life. im not even a parent but keep in mind if u think that this gu ws a lunatic who was "past" getting help then at some point he wasnt "past getting help", and thats where his pa rents should have paid attention.
@@day2Dawn The fuck? He clearly said he couldn't talk to his dad about his issues, so its not like he was being abused or his dad was some unreasonable drunk psycho. His dad literally just said what every parent says...I want you to be able to provide for yourself and have a family of your own someday. You're saying all this shit in hindsight, his dad should have known he was going to go psycho and murder 3 people and because he couldn't read someones mind you want his dad to live with guilt for the rest of his life?? Fuck is wrong with you dude. You talk about how a murderer deserved help then turn around and say an innocent guy should be punished for life with guilt and all the mental issues that come from his child dying and killing 3 others.
That ‘diagnosis’ made at the end of the video was ridiculous.
He was referred to several times as suffering from psychosis throughout the video - and then it’s stated he ‘knew what he was doing’! If he *was* psychotic (I didn’t see ANY evidence of psychosis in the video) how is he *also* in full control of his thoughts and behavior?
What is up with people ‘diagnosing’ mental illness in people they’ve never met? When they have no qualifications?
That was just a bunch of psychological buzz words thrown together. It spreads misinformation and is completely irresponsible.
Most people (wrongly) use the word "psychotic" as some kind of
catchall term for mental illness in general.
He is not psychotic at all.
"We had feelings for each other"
"It was way more than a simple connection" This kid is talking about himself and a fictional cartoon.
Where on Earth were his parents, family, and friends?!?!??!
None existent. This is America 🇺🇸
This have been happening for centuries
Read about Pygmalion and Galatea, only difference is that Pygmalion didn't become a mass murderer at the end of the story
Chris chan took it to another level
Theres a 50 part doc about him that's still not finished
Not helping or doing anything like everybody else does
Some parents like the look of having a good family rather than making a good family
His dad figured.... If he has a job, is working, gets a girl and moves... He's fine.
And they just ignore everything else. It's the way Boomers were raised. The "tough love" or "good old days" It further screws their brains. That's why all those boomers started getting divorced and screwed up.
the Japanese have a word for Randy's grandiose delusions which is Chunibyo syndrome is a Japanese colloquial term typically used to describe early teens who have grandiose delusions, who desperately want to stand out,
and who have convinced themselves that they have hidden knowledge or
secret powers.
Japan is pretty collectivist so I imagine normal people who just want to make a name for themselves are treated the same way,
@@jakespacepiratee3740
You do make a valid point, the most normal of people could be ostracised for sticking out in even the smallest of ways.
…Then again, all the bizarre social pressures in Japan do produce a fair share of loons from time to time.
“出る釘は打たれる”.
@@jordanfleming7022 That's my favorite Japanese proverb; "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down."
I have never heard of this thank you so much for the information and I agree with you
It's more than a chuunibyou I think, and closer to kind of a weebo/a simp who over obsessed to a fictional character, believing that the character is alive and began to control his mind (which is at this stage, is already too much, since weebos in general only admire their fav character). While chuunibiyou is more overconfident personality, believing themselves had some sort of power and there is no really external force (like fictional character) who force them to do it.
i really appreciate the fact that this video is split up into literal parts. not that i skipped anything but it makes it feel so organized and fancy. also the sheer cringe and edgy energy he had was truly hard to sit through. can't believe that this is what youtube used to be like (and this was only 4 years ago??)
Still is like that but you have to search hard for it now instead of seeing it in your recommendation or as an ad
Lol there literal porn on youtube as i type this, theres plenty of weird shit on youtube.
its youtube... its been and always will be weird, scary, cringe shit on here. but also the most hilarious and heartwarming shit youll ever see is on here. good comes with the bad. and vice versa
I honestly miss those unfiltered days when everyone was more original and natural in their video making compared to nowadays whereas everything is super marketable, cheesy, and over the top super duper professional just to get a fat juicy check.
@@MrDmoney156 I think you watch the wrong people. Yeah, there a plenty of popular TH-camrs that don’t bring any substance to their content. But, I feel like nowadays TH-cam is so diverse that you can choose a community and never have to deal with the channels that don’t interest you. Like I can watch people make true crime videos, art shows, movies commentary, commentary in general, skits, gameplay, books reviews, horror stories channels, etc. I feel like back then TH-cam was only skits and video games reviewers.
Mental health help is very important. I have rapid cycling bipolar and severe obsessive compulsive disorder. Throughout the years, I only needed someone to discuss my feelings with and that made me not hurt myself. It is important to have someone, anyone, who you can discuss your feelings with. Everyone needs attention from someone. It is during those lonely times, when you feel like nobody cares about you, especially after being abandoned, emotionally, or physically; things like what Randy committed him self to, happen. This is very unfortunate and there is no excuse for his actions.
it's so crazy to me how much detail these people get on these channels. like where the hell did he find out that he broke his collar bone in 1st grade? the amount of research these people do has to be absolutely insane. i seriously applaud channels like this.
😄
Some details are just so inconsequential or pointless to mention
Who the fuck cares he broke his collar bone in first grade?
@@higaiwokeru he used it to showcase that there weren't any horrible events happening during his childhood that could have lead to mental illness, with the broken bone as the example "that's the worst thing that happened" basically
@@higaiwokeru Clearly you must not be a fan of good films or stories in general because attention to details like that are EXACTLY what separate good stories from yawn-inducing news segments. They help paint a picture and give the viewer context.... That said, if you prefer just the who/what/when/where just go to Wikipedia or simple google search.
@@higaiwokeru people who know that these cases are the sum of multiple events and are interested in how they relate or build upon each other...something that clearly eludes you
With all of this guy's daddy issues, I'm not surprised he found more comfort and solace in the idea of being with women/girls. Which makes sense as to why he spared the young lady listening to music. Must have reminded him of his goddess, Ember.
Your comment makes total sense.
I like most if the original comment, but he didn’t necessarily dislike his dad, he actually hated his mom. He started disliking his dad because he was a male and he stated that he really started hating all males, basically he wanted to be a woman that bad
Women
With all the daddy issues? What daddy issues?
@@TQsquad I can see that
I feel so sad for the three employees who lost their lives. The army veteran served his country and then meets his end in a damn supermarket where he feels most comfortable. The 63 year old man, who's supposed to be retired at that age, but obviously never had any savings to his name, so he was just trying to make a living for himself and family, and the young lady who leaves behind a young child. May their souls Rest In Peace.
yea that was what was really sad. the innocent employees!
@@oooh19 I could hardly give a sh* about the murderer when he killed these innocents .
@@oooh19 he might be mentally ill, but still murdered them. He could have sit help but he didn't. Screw him and hope he stays burning in hell
@• Spoki • MrBomb • month long comment, idk either. Maybe I just got angry hearing of the innocents killed while there’s comments sympathizing with the killer
Ya may they rest in peace.
OMG! This happened 2 1/2 hours away from me. I'm in south central PA. Didn't hear anything about it at all. You weren't kidding when you said it didn't get much media attention. Both of my daughters worked at a Weis where we are. It's just... this is heartbreaking.
*Imagine finding out someone committed murder and suicide over a character that you created.*
I was thinking similar things. And Butch Hartman (the creator) is a really nice person. He's a family member of one of my old bosses.
Had it not been that character it'd have been something else. Problems like this don't come from cartoons, it comes from home.
And hes religois as well.
I dont like butch at all
So i hope this is eating at him
(hes rude and self absorbed he cant take criticism at all,
He thinks you have to be a professional to have an opinion.
Anyone can have an opinon and give criticism)
@@pippidraws7710 did you just have a stroke
@@aprendizdecapivara2841 To be fair, there have been controversies surrounding Butch Hartman these days. Like when he made a joke about a voice actor committing suicide and blaming it on Tara Strong. Or his Oaxis scam. Or his recent art tracings.
“Calm down son, its just a drawing.”
Underrated comment
"IT'S REAL TO ME DAD!!!"
-16 yr old teens (probably)
@@vladimiradidas1945 you dont understand!! It's real, ...I LOVE HER DAD ...
"SHE IS REAL TO ME"
@@Triferus DID I FALL IN LOVE WITH A FANTASY WELL I DON'T GIVE A FUCK SHE IS REAL TO MEEEEEEEEE
FUN FACT: You said "once the soundtracks were released to TH-cam."... Randy was actually the person who tracked down the hq embers song track that was once considered lost media. He is the one who posted it to TH-cam and the version he uploaded is edited with subliminal messages of his speaking and the columbine shooters. Therefore, the actual hq original track is still lost
Whoa where is this vid
What a jerk. He couldnt even respect art that he loved. He had to throw in his hateful ideology into it instead of leaving it as is.
What hq song? I'm confused can someone explain?
@FrostyXen i wanna hear that
He looks and reminds me of Dylan Klebold
A detail that people tend to overlook when recapping Randy is the fact he was almost on an animation podcast called The Pizza Party Podcast. Usually when a a creator, especially animators, are invited onto the show their channels usually see way more traffic.
The host “Pan-Pizza” even expresses disbelief finding out his almost guest was Randy.
It makes me think that things could’ve gone way different for Randy if he did show up on that show
He had problems adjusting to adulthood. You see how attached he is to this fantasy world he created and couldn't cope with the demands of growing up. The deaths he caused are all senseless, none of these people wronged him in any way and didn't deserve this tragedy.
"She gets me" bro, she's a CARTOON
People have their own things they beileve in and here you are pointing it out just leave em alone
@@meguminuwu7501 sometimes pointing out someone’s delusion and making them realize how much of an idiot they are is the best thing. But then again trying to understand them while simultaneously trying to help them out is also good. It really depends on the person
Mental illness is a crazy thing
@@meguminuwu7501 yeah leave him alone not like he killed anyone due to massive batshit crazy weirdo delusions or anything
Cartoons are great because they will agree with who ever gives them life
Making profiles talking to each other
The content matter is the worst part, I relate with everything but how fucking crazy he was
You can see the slight hint of both realization and guilt in the final video of his in the car, like he had a small moment of clarity before it was snuffed back down to insanity, its really sad
It was like he had a quick moment of regret and then immediately got rid of the thought, like an “in too deep to back out” situation
That's what happens when the devil gets a hold of you...
I'm always so angry when hearing cases like this. The way these sick people take other people's lives, people with family, friends, and other people that cares about them. I will never sympathize with these people even if they have some sort of build up trauma that pushed them to commit these horrible crimes. I'm also blaming their parents who bring these people into the world and weren't able to control them.
Gosh, I feel really bad for the victims. One of them even got grandkids and I believe all three were normal and kind people too. I hate that they lost their lives to some delusional narcisistic adult child. I hope their family are already in peace after this incident.
I don't like the framing of "the parents are bad because they didn't control him hard enough." They should have been more empathetic and actually there for Randy, not more controlling.
They fail to realize that the world doesn’t revolve around them. We all suffer together here on this world, yet we go through it anyways. It is hard, but you’re not the only one. Millions of us go through it. War, death, famine.. those will always be there.
nobody cares
God. I don't know what is worse. The fact this young man put himself through this delusion, or that there are probably a lot more young people who are going through the same thing.
A lost generation for sure.
Still, there are a lot more good than bad in the world. It’s not like the world is running out of people, quite the opposite actually.
@@cccycling5835 a lot of bad people are also in charge wearing suits
@@cccycling5835 Its just unfortunate that 1 bad person can do so much damage to so many people, compared to the difference one good person can make.
You should check out fickin, aka fiction kin, and also take a deep dive into waifuism and yumejos
Men and women both are losing years and years of their lives in relationships with fictional characters
I used to be one of them and it is a dark, dark place to be--most of these people don't have potential to become killers, but they are trapped in delusions like Randy
i went through similar shit as this kid. this shit could easily have been prevented. when someone starts to go crazy, rogue, or outright creepy....get them help. dont be a bystander watching their world fall apart and them jump down a cliff into nothing but delusion hate anger pain and sadness. i could have ended up as this kid. but i was lucky to have been blessed with the ability to fight through anything almost. leather skin i heard someone call me once. at least i think that what they said. idk. either way this is sad and could have been prevented if people actually gave a fuck about one another enough to at the very least let someone with authority know. it sad that so many are going through shit like this now. my thoughts, the government should force help to people in need...or isolate them...or terminate them. i HATE the idea of the last 2...more so the last one. but wtf do we do? how do we (the people) enforce the government who supposedly is there to help and protect us, to do their jobs? this kinda shit shouldnt even exist with the technology money and medical advances that we have. wtf is being done to combat this? nothing. WHY?!?!?
P.S. not mad at you. im only a little bit before halfway into the video and it hitting home big time for me so i needed to rant. will edit if needed when i see whole thing. but fuck this hurt to watch so far
Something a lot of ppl don’t know about randy stair is that he drank A LOT of Benadryl to the point to where he was high off of it a lot. He had a lot in system during his autopsy too. That was probably a contributor to his deteriorating mental state. Rip to the victims.
You ever read the 16" long list of unwanted effects of diphenhydramine, or Benadryl? My mother has drank almost a pint every night of Zquil, for about 20 years. While she denies it has caused any problems, it is non habit forming after all, she has many adverse effects. Namely dementia. She is 75 though. She only drinks it now if someone else takes her to the store, or she cons someone else. She lives in my home, and no longer drives. I don't let her drink that shit if I can help it. What do you have to go to sleep for? Your 75. You ain't gotta get up in the morning. Just stay up till your asleep. It will happen. I promise. I tell her this, and I see her nodding off all the time. Which she denies. Silly old bird.
@@aliciagalindo3038 at 75 she probably would have dementia ,benadryl or not.
@@aliciagalindo3038 What's it prescribed for?
Insomnia?
@@aliciagalindo3038 I'm sorry but wtf? Your mom drank a pint of cough medicine every night for 20 years? How many bottles make one pint?
@@peterjongsma2779 it's an over the counter antihistamine (for allergy symptoms). But a side effect is drowsiness, so some people take it to help them fall asleep. It's not very pleasant to take in large quantities, but can cause a feeling of intoxication also accompanied by depression and physicsl symptoms such as heart palpitations, fast heartbeat, extremely dry eyes and mouth, and depression.
this case is so frustrating because if Randy/Andrew just had access to a good therapist and psychiatrist NONE of this would've happened. People always say it but Mental Health is truly so important because untamed mental illness will just terrorize and deteriorate a person.
Well part of it is him being bad nature to an extent because someone with mental illness alone wouldn’t act out in violence like that someone with mental illness plus other issues does stuff like that. Edit if he truly believed his fantasy world was real then he meant to kill people so they would join him in the fantasy world. So maybe it wasn’t some kind of hatred. Also why couldn’t he have stuck to shooting guns and making cringy videos on TH-cam those old videos were actually enjoyable
He did not want therapy.
Its no good calling him andrew its the name of a self made character he internalized it would only fuel his delusion
Its not really as much mental health as it is demons
If he knew Jesus, he would probably still be alive right now
They just would’ve locked him up in the hospital and that wouldn’t have helped…he wanted just one person to be there for him, acknowledge him
I don't normally feel sorry for people who do bad things but I really feel like this guy wouldn't have spiraled into destruction if he'd gotten help when he first needed it. By the time he reached the end any help was too late. Please reach out to any friends or family you see struggling. Don't ignore them. Their lives (and the lives of others) may depend on you showing you care. RIP to the victims.
That's literally his choice he made
How about you feel sorry for the innocent people he killed
@@BTSisMyUniverse68 I do.
@@faron1988 no you dont, you think randy is more of a victim then them which is concerning
@@Freestyle80 Not what I said and not what I believe.
Even if it is "seeking attention", that "seeking attention" still means he needs help. Sadly another preventable tragedy.
Yeah, another case where the parents didn’t care enough about their kid.
@@McSnezzly regardless he chose to become what he ended up being. That was all him. No excuses for what he did.
@@TempoTrack That was not free will. That was the effect of his parents' treating to him. No baby would go fucking rogue and commit mass killing, you fucking knuckle.
He grew up knowing nothing, how would you blame him if he hadn't known any better? He was the result of the poor treatment of his parents. He wanted someone to help him, he wanted to feel like someone's child, but he was never given that until then. Argue how a baby wants their mother, you fucking muppet.
@@ユイェン yes his parents contributed but excuses can't be made for his actions. Regardless of what he was going through he had the option to deal with his shit in a constructive way to better himself rather than to self destruct and bring others down with him. Everyone's experience may be subjective but I've personally seen people go through worse physically and mentally and still come out amazing people. He chose his fate its that simple.
I’m sorry, but the part where the girl had headphones, not knowing a murder was going on was truly horrific! Then for her to see her dead co workers. Bless their souls.
Idk if the survivor has seen the CCTV footage or not, I'd imagine that she has, but can you imagine watching something like that?!? Watching a co-worker/murderer stand behind you for a full 5 seconds while deciding your fate before luckily deciding to spare you and walking away... AND YOU NEVER EVEN KNEW HE WAS THERE! That's gotta be some really fuc*ed up shit to process.
@@staciehenderson6982 Right!
i was looking for this comment. its kinda comical/cartoonish in a way, which might be why he spared her (?) idk... this is not based on anything, just kinda pops on my mind
those must be some good headphones to block out at least 3 shotgun blasts, so sad though, them people weren't even mean to him.
Immagine how haunted the song she was listening to is to her now
I'm horrified that his parents were living in the same house, didn't get him help, and the mom even bought him a freaking gun. I have a hard time believing they didn't notice anything weird.
They probably thought oh puberty or something
It seems like they ignored him, well the dad anyway. Remember what Randy said about his dad not knowing anything about him?
@@Jessica-iq6kj frfr some people dont deserve to be parents
Yeah the gun thing is pretty common. Especially in community's with strong gun culture. My dad bought me my first glock at 14 and we'd go shooting after church... then again I never murdered a toy frog and date a cartoon.
@Julia T. definitely a red flag lol
Rest in Peace to all the victims
1. Victoria Brong, 25
2. Brian Hayes, 47
3. Terry Lee Sterling, 63
Gone, but not forgotten, May god rest their sweet innocent souls
Rot In Hell: Randy Stair, 24
This guy was definitely very sick. But who would have taken him seriously. I've never known anyone who said they were in love with a cartoon character. I don't know either if I would have taken them seriously. He was indeed scary. How tragic.
ironically, he keeps praising Ember as his “goddess” yet blames her for his own destruction
Kinda seems like every other religion then…
@@h0rriphic oooh snap 😲
That's because Ember is also him.
@@h0rriphic GOT EEEEM What a fuckin eye opener for some sadly though the religious ones have their shit sewed shut
@@OjoRojo40 💯
the fact that Ember and Randy are canon in the Chris Chan Universe, and that Chris idolizes Randy should explain a lot about both of them. It is extremely disturbing
Randy is basically what happens if you give Chris-Chan a gun.
@@socatoansoldier9984 so before randy got gun he was chris chan 😱
@@socatoansoldier9984 Chris is too much of a coward to go into confrontations. sure, he can drive, but he knows he'll go to jail if he actually hit someone with his car because of tard-rage (which he did). Now, he's in prison for diddling his elderly mom because the egotistical idiot has to brag to his online associates about it.
@@FG-tu4fq hello fellow Christorian
@@FG-tu4fq The dude litterally pepper sprayed a gamestop employee over the color of Sonic's arms. I wouldn't put that past him if Chris got angry enough. Don't underestimate crazy people.
"There will be a loss of human life." That quote, to me, shows enough stability, control, and knowledge to show that he would have been mentally fit to stand trial. He was not out of control, he was not completely delusional. He knew what he was doing.
Yeah thats insane to me. Randy was the disturbing, unique type of crazy, he knew what he was doing, killing a sentient, caring, loving person just like he used to be, but he destroyed them anyways.
He was completely delusional. Just a giant self absorbed jerk. You van be a crazy psychopath and a selfish asshole at the same time. No need for sanity.
Cody Taylor good thing you're not a psychologist then, lol
@@Kushufy Are you?
@@codytaylor7861 I don't need to be? I'm not making claims about it...
His parent's or friends possibly could of prevented this from happening by just paying attention to him and the signs. If I had a brother or a friend like this I would reach out asap.
Yeah you do
Video Speaker said that Victoria like to help people and was known to be a loving and caring individual but failed to do all those things with her coworker. A person who all he wanted and needed from her was 5 minutes of her day to say hi randy, how are you doing or can we sit down and talk. I bet Kristen was the only person who made some kind of positive impact (love and attention) with Randy within the years that caused him to spare her life. Being the reason I think why Kristen is alive today.
I think Randy was a narcissistic
This dude didn't need a friend or brother, he needed committed to a psychiatric hospital
damn did his parents just completely ignore their kid this whole time?
It definitely seems that way
A lot of parents think mental illness can be corrected with hard work. A lot of parents just want their kids out of their house when they turn 18. It's sad tbh
This is the problem with materialism.
If you work hard you'll be safe, have things you want, and be happy. Who you are doesn't matter. What you feel isn't important. It's what you have that matters.
His father obviously felt this way. Many people in the world think of things very simply and plainly. The reality of it is that our Western notion of how we should behave and
what we should be doing is squarely based on what we can achieve. We've abandoned our spiritual self. As a result, boys like this happen. When I say "spiritual" I really mean our subconscious self that deals in symbols and archetypes. Things like philosophy, religion, and direction in life. Something that this boy was navigating, obviously, and without guidance. Which is dangerous and can end badly.
They probably tried but he probably didn't want help
@Sam Armstrong so a majority of the worlds population is mentally ill? Ok
This is one of the sadder and more disturbing ones honestly because he was like... half there and half gone. He knew it was a cartoon character and knew it was ridiculous but his mind had made it so dying was better for everyone, including his victims and people he influenced. Just such a weird place the brain can go
He was a murderer. Plain and simple. There's no excuse for that.
@@bonniestewart2654 If you have no interest in what causes people to do the horrible things they do why are you even bothering to watch these videos?
@@erikgilson1687 I never said that I didn't have any interest. I don't know where you got that from.
@@erikgilson1687 I've always been interested in why murderers kill. All this case has shown however, is that he was sexually obsessed with a cartoon and he chose to murder innocent people at a supermarket.
Depression can take you in many directions
To be fair can't really blame him for quitting McDonald's in his first shift.
Oooooo.....haaaa hahahaaaa.....i apoligize to the victims and their families....but I laughed at this McDonald's crack....truly sir well done
@@davidhughes1070 wow someone is reading way into a comment than he should.
EDIT: yea so I misread the comment my bad
Lol I agree! I totally read Andrew as neurodiverse and as an autistic person who only lasted a month working at Twistee Treat I *get* that part 😅
Yeah it is pretty hard for morons to handle flipping burgers or taking orders.
My husband quit after just one hour, so.... yeah. He agrees.
He gave so many signs he was delusional. His parents failed him tremendously. He needed to be committed for many years and how his parents ignored this is truly sad. I’m sorry for the families that lost their loved ones but even more devastated for the suffering Randy went through.
He looks like machine gun Kelly haha
No, not his parents fault.
We don't know what happened in his household. Although Randy made his parents out to be horrible people that only cared about him working, that was how he perceived events, not necessarily the reality. It's clear he had severe mental issues that were never addressed. How much his parents actually knew about his mental state, how much they tried to help, and what resources they had to rely on is unclear. The parents might not have had the knowledge or resources to help him, as this is often the case, even more so back when Randy was a child. And when he was a child, there was no way to know things would get this bad. It wasn't until after multiple traumas experienced without proper support that his mental health took an obvious nosedive and predicting what would happen would be possible. In fact, it's likely, if the traumas never occurred or he had a strong support system to help him cope with them, the end would have been different. But regardless, he was an adult by then. There would have been very little the parents, or anyone, could do. It's easy to blame the parents, and I'd bet money the parents were blamed every time he acted out. People often blame bad parenting instead of mental illness... but often... it's a result of the collective failures of the community and society. It's not really anyone's fault, but the majority of people involved contributed to it, most likely without meaning to.
@@kazbutler yes partially, they were huge loud signs over and over for a long time that his parents ignored completley and was only focused on him being a "normal" productive member of society how they seen him instead of truly listening and observing him and all the huge things and signs that were there for a while.
@@tomkee4479 think the only problem with coming to those conclusions is most of what we know about him and what he did come from Randy himself. No one has asked his parents what happened we just watch the tapes of a delusional kid telling us the ins and outs of his delusional world view and how he saw it go down. We should trust very little of it
I'm surprised this dude never heard of anime. It could've been worse if he ended up fighting against others bashing on her waifu on the internet.
Indeed
Shout out to my Waiiiifffuuuu
Aka my weeb ss lil bro, almost the disaster that happen from, said under rock of a weeboo dealing with that. Ohh can't eve express the B.S on that crap.
ikr😂
Not funny
If your friend starts talking about he is genuinely in love with a fictional character and also begins making his own animated series based on that character and believes that he can be reincarnated into the series he made, you should be concerned
Not concerned, just cut the fucker from your life and nothing bad will happen to you. At this point, that clown is already lost to the forest floor. Such individuals are beyond saving. And only warrant and deserve mockery.
I support my friends no matter what. Just don't hurt anyone.
@@natsusatsujinki8342 ummm
@@natsusatsujinki8342 you're sick
@@Dunecoone so are you
Imagine being the girl who had no idea because her headphones were in.....she's gonna have PTSD to another level
I wonder how loud her music must have been playing...I mean....Andrew used fucking SHOTGUNS in a closed enviroment....
@@NKA23 I mean Airpods do block out A lot and she probably was blasting the music, but with how small the supermarket looked you'd think she would feel the reverb or the bounce off the walls from the shotgun blasts. But regardless she's gonna be scared to ever use headphones again
@@jojomojo5213 maybe she was listening to something where gun shots might blend in with the music. Metal, dubstep, some green day...?
@@WhatExcellentBoiledPo-ta-toes 100% was thinking the same . If she listens to music with some heavy bass or drums being played then it couldve been just passed off in her mind. I mean things happen quick she never would've thought that'd happen
She will probably have survivors guilt for the rest of her life
Ok I’ll admit it when Randy said “She told me to.” and shows a phantasmal image of Ember, I lost it.
I hate stories like these, cus I really wanna feel bad for Randy but then he has to go and kill random people
No remorse. He was sick, twisted, and had no place being here. Obviously. If he was meant for something else we wouldn’t be here.
@@brainderp808 He chose his path. You’ve got much less to work than you think when it comes to some of the mentally ill, I’ve felt it firsthand. Some people strive to be unhappy, angry, and bitter at the world. Some feel so entitled to ‘be who they want/their true self’ that it tears them apart inside when society rejects their nonconformity. Even given opportunities, love, support, some people let their self pity and hate consume them. I feel nothing for them as a result, they could not pull themselves out of it, and you can’t force someone to. Sometimes I feel mild pity for what could’ve have been, but there is little sense in wasting pity on that when there are innocents involved.
@@glizzygladiator8055 I understand your cynicism. I really do. I believe some of those to be true, like some people really are hopeless and conceited, rude and ignorant, and should be avoided. But where I disagree is that I think there’s more people that can be saved than you might think. Some people might be rude and hopelessly stupid, but I feel they are worthy of redemption. They haven’t gone and killed or hurt people yet yanno?
@@brainderp808 it’s not about forgiving him. There’s nothing to forgive.
@@brainderp808 I have been down far darker paths than most. I will never have forgiveness for their actions. I haven’t forgiven myself for many things I did when I was young, there’s no way to forgive some actions. Your decisions are your own, no matter how you feel you have no right to enact pain and sorrow unto anything. No matter how the world has ‘beaten you down’, it is up to you to interpret. You don’t even have to look at it so negatively, that is also a choice. At least one ‘good’ thing happens every single day, look out for, and enjoy the good. It’s easiest to forget, and lasts the least amount of time. I think shitty days last longer in your brain so you can avoid doing similar things, I keep that in mind in a positive way.
Anyone obsessed with columbine isn’t just edgy , they are completely batshit crazy . Watch out for those types , can’t believe the parents didn’t realize this .
pretty sure the parents didnt know that until the police investigation
@ST!LL MYK!LL I am intersected in seriel killers bu toy fascination manifests in different ways like how to prevent it
Thats not true at all...im a columbine researcher but that doesnt mean i want to go and murder people, i just like true crime, dont associate us with those people
You are a researcher, that is different than someone who dresses like & hero worships mass shooters. No one thinks you are going to murder anyone.
@@danib942 that is the weirdest compliment I have ever gotten ‘no one thinks you’re going to murder anyone’ hope so
In my hometown there was a horrific case of this girl being lured into the forest by her ex girlfriend then buried alive. The killers wrote all about it in journals and still mock the family from prison, it’s pretty awful
Edit: her name was Brandy Stevens-Rosine if anyone wants to look into it. I met her mother when I graduated; really nice lady, and I felt awful to see her cry
Someone else recently covered that one. Terrible case.
@Renegade Siha ah but nobody will know when you’re kidnapped…
Could I see the news story? Looks interesting!
@@TimSmith-ne5zs Brandy Stevens-Rosine is the name, I think there’s a few articles on it
@@tyroneviolinster7172 I know her and her family. They moved there from Youngstown Ohio
Maladaptive Daydreaming is a hell of a drug. It can destroy you if you aren’t careful.
i notice a pattern with these people. They often start on a downward spiral, listening to the untrue delusions within themselves, and feel they are completely alone in feeling that way, and the only way out is chaos and tragedy. I hope that those feeling this way watch these videos, understand that you are not alone in feeling this way, but most importantly, you can see their signs of falling, in yourself, and get help before you do anything that ends your life or others.
Yes...excellent comment. It's like they're having on air psychotic breakdowns! Like the film "Network." Who was watching his channel? We must look out for one another. Life is not a f*cking video game.
Yeah that pattern is actual mental symptoms following their usual pattern. Delusion, psychosis, etc are typically problems involving schotzoaffective disorders. Sadly they don't choose to follow the spiral, unless they get early intervention their brain will deteriotate and follow the symptoms
and hope you don't have very, VERY easy access to military-grade firearms.
@@joanodom2104 life is a game called chess
A number of the things they say/feel I relate to.
No desire to hurt anyone else though.
RIP to all those victims. What happened to them is obviously so horrible and unfair
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The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously.
@@jamesmayle4712 While I believe in freedom of speech, I feel *all* your many words may, or may not have - fallen upon deaf ears.
Save your preaching for church
@@generationx9294 maybe you should keep your beliefs, poxy assessment of viewer interest and advice to yourself, see how that works?
@@generationx9294 well said 😆
He spared her because she was a music loving female.
Edit: I also think the fact that she didn't notice the carnage added to his deciding not to kill her.
That's actually a very interesting take. Might be onto something there
A music loving femoid
@@L1qu1d-2qu1d oh no not one of these kinds of incels
Yeah, I agree. It was probably her innocence, just dancing or humming along, working away, which ultimately saved her life. It's that simplicity, of pure ignorance to the chaos and intended doom all around, just in her own little bubble, that made him decide in 5 seconds, it wasn't going to be his shotgun blast that would burst it. He did have a fleeting moment of discernment, maybe a flicker of empathy. Or quite possibly, just a recognition of childlike innocence with which he could relate but, unfortunately, could not emulate.
@@LochAndLoad95 hey, I'm lysdexic.
This is a year old video but, I remember hearing about this case a while back and didn't care much for it, thinking it was just another youtube drama. After after watching this I can't help but feel extremely sorry for the guy. He has a lot of the same issues I have, at least it looks like it, but he never got the help I did. That last suicide video of his was honestly heartbreaking when he asked how it had become like this. Of course, there's no condoning his actions, he took the lives of innocents for such delusional reason, and had he not ended his own he would deserve to have severe psych help from behind bars. But at the same time, idk, I just can't help but feel like if one thing went out of place in my life I could've been like him. He was so obviously lonely and didn't know what to do. Had someone paid attention and noticed sooner, maybe none of this would've happened and I just can't help but think that's just so tragic.
"Who ever thought a cartoon character would cause this to happen" is such an unnerving phrase because it sounds almost self aware, but unfortunately after getting this far into the video I know that's not the intent.
Yeah thats whats freaky about Randy. He knew what he was doing, he just didnt care if it would hurt others. He wanted attention, and he mostly considered his meger youtube fanbase as a failure, so he did the only thing that he thought would make people care about him.
Thats the sad thing about crazy people, many are only cared about until its too late, and Randy knew this.
That doesnt justify what he did, though.
Have you heard of the son of sam? A dog told him to kill people in 1970s so we have come a long way
Killers will come up with any excuse to justify their actions. "It's not my fault, this and this made me do it"
@@jawaela Exactly. Somehow they try to rationalize that the fact they murdered people is never their fault. Call me crazy, but I've always held the actual murderers responsible.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I think it's very harmful to simplify his actions as merely wanting attention. He was obviously not well and despite having some level of self awareness, believed in what he was saying to a certain degree.
Watching things like this really makes me thankful that my parents got me therapy, because I was an outcast kid who became obsessed with a cartoon character as well and I got so deep I had my own fantasies of killing myself and joining them. You don't realise how far gone you are until you step outside of it and realise that you live in a completely different world. I dunno, it's hard to explain but it really does engulf you when psychological stuff also becomes a factor. I had really bad episodes as a teen, to the point where this world felt completely alien, like the other world was the real world and this one was just a hellscape I was forced to live in until I had enough courage to "wake up", aka end my life and return to the other.
Honestly, you're so strong and I'm really proud of you for overcoming all of that.
That's disturbing but I'm so glad you got help
Duuuuude, I went through the same shit.
When I was abused by my Stepfather, holy fuck did I become obsessed with one character in particular; Link from Legend of Zelda and even became obsessed with the Pokémon universe.
I was convinced that if I died, I'd be met with Link and Professor Oak and given a starter Pokémon, and be able to traverse the Pokémon world while fighting monsters and Ganon with Link.
My Mother got me help and therapy at 17, and goddammit am I grateful she did.
It's all fun and games until you realize you were wrong.
I'm so glad you're okay
Chasing fantasy is an option; its called writing, painting, or art to show it off.
Running away from reality is not an option, its a choice.
Taking away others right to chose, is wrong, unfair, and selfish..
He didn't get far where his bonds put him.
Damn. He wanted to be caught before it happened so bad. So many warning signs. Im inclined to believe his dad was really oblivious to his monster son.
Being parent doesn't mean that you really know best. How uninvolved in your childs life can you be to not notice something is clearly wrong here?
All they needed to do watch his TH-cam videos and they would have known exactly what he was thinking and planning, instead they bought him a shotgun. Amurica
Bruh, even parents can't magically read their son/ daughter minds unless if they confronted them and tell what's really going
People aren't telepathic
Poor parenting. End of story.
@@mikevignola4213 All parents need to start peeping around their children's rooms when they're not home. Especially if you have a weird looking skinny son who mutilates animals / toys and has no friends.)
Considering i immediately thought of Randy when they announced ember would be in the new Nick All Star Battle game, i think this is a case like the Noid, where the association to a crime driven by the perpetrator's relationship to a character ends up making every future appearance feel morbid
I didn't realize his mom also gave him a gun with this case. I swear a lot of these cases of parents being stupid with their own guns they bought
Parents of the century... Also, don't you need to be psychiatrically evaluated before you can operate or purchase a gun in USA? I'm assuming the mom had a license and instead of using it herself she gave it to him. But even then he bought the other one himself
agreed.
I'm too European for this.. Giving guns to people is just plain dangerous, makes it way too easy to start a shooting
@@elpretender1357 in the states you can legally buy a gun at 16 im pretty sure and they don't do any psychological background checks they really just ask oh do you have any mental illness they can literally say no and they could have a gun right then and their they don't take all the percussions they need. I don't understand on why in the USA people can buy guns at 16 but can't drive buy cigarettes or alcohol yet like smh
@@fortunecookie8312 that is definitely not case, in order to buy gun you have to do interviews and pass a thorough background check. The whole process takes months and it’s definitely not easy. Also, in a lot of states you have to be 21 to even buy a gun now
His facial expressions he’s completely gone from this reality
No he isnt. He was just a selfish lazy loser.
@@vianka5549 Yeah because people who go out of their way to shoot random people, are just selfish lazy losers. How high are you?
@@Jeremias9453 Don‘t bother with these comments. You can, just by the tone of their voice, tell that they have no understanding of mental health, but refuse to admit it and act like they know everything.
It‘s actually frustrating seeing people like this.
nah just an edgy loser
He was just some loser who wanted to be like his idol eric from columbine. He was fully aware that what he was doing was wrong.
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Would that be 2 or 3 sugars?
@@supermetroid009 none, I like my crime dark!
@@kokeslee smart
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