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- A research project that has been in the making for the better part of a year; (Max power) has conducted, tested, and recorded Terabytes of content for the purpose of making this video. A mod map maker (Snowmuder) and also a tester for my channel; he approached me with a collaboration effort to complete his amazing informational video. For all that he has done for me; I was thrilled to jump in and help him. This video goes over the textures of Mud, How to navigate through it, Tires, The effects of weight in relation to grip, overall tips and information to help you on your journeys. Thank you everyone for the continued support! Love Ya'll! Enjoy!
Max power's TH-cam: / @maxpower5205
0:00 Intro
1:20 Mud Types
3:50 Impact Of AWD & DIFF Lock
5:10 Weight On The Back Wheels
6:54 Gearbox Choices & Throttle Control
8:31 Cosmetic Upgrades
9:30 How To Get Unstuck
11:56 Tires
17:36 Conclusion
Check out all my recent 2021 SnowRunner Truck Reviews @ / nathanprovince
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This video has been so helpful, along with the truck reviews. Up until Yukon, I swore up and down the single wide mud tires are the best. However, I started experimenting with the double wide off-road tires. And I must say, it brought a lot of my beginner trucks out of retirement. The 114sd with the best double wide off-road tires outperforms some of the Russian trucks with single wide mud tires, for example. I was left in disbelief. Keep up the hard work! 💯💪🏽
Thank you for those kind words. Ya its crazy how much performace can come out of a lesser tire under the right circumstances. I love the 114SD man!! Glad you enjoyed the video as well!
SRW mud tires look better though. My favorites are the ones Twin Steer and Paystar 5070 have. MHS I, I believe.
That seems like bad game design, but then again, I'm new.
God bless you as well. Excellent info
Legitimately the most informative helpful snowrunner video. Thanks for making it!
Glad it was helpful! :)
Well done guys. A service to the community
Thank you!!
Hey there. I picked up this game a week ago, fond myself struggling, yet loved the concept. I thank you for that viedo, as it has helped me a lot, and i believe that it will stay relevant for my playthrought. As such, i want to thank you for that. Your video is of great quality, and even thought you might not see the result of your work on it yourself, you have my gratitude.
Oh thank you so much for those kind words! I’m really glad you enjoyed and found this information useful. When I was working on this video with Maxpower; the amount of knowledge I learned from it still applies to how I play the game :)
Been playing the game for well over a year now, thought I knew everything about it, hence why I've been playing it less and less over the past months. Yet you just opened my eyes on a LOT of great tire options and some very interesting mechanics in other videos of yours. Thanks for your great work!
Edit: And yes, you might just have re-sparked my interest for the game as well :)
That’s awesome! I’m glad this video and other reinvigorated your interest to the game. It’s crazy that you can learn so much even after all that time, that’s what really makes this fun
This is the best video about mud grip and performance I've ever seen. Huge thanks to you and MaxPower
Thank you!!
This video is INCREDIBLE!! Thank you so much for the 6 months worth of work, thoroughly appreciated.
Hey, you’re very welcome! I’m glad you think it was worth your time! :)
Excellent, well done. You're the first TH-cam contributor who has actually used real life off road driving techniques & applied them to Snowrunner
I spent a number of years driving ex Soviet military trucks (imported from Poland) as a perk working on farm estates where the owners collected off road vehicles of all shapes & sizes with around 200 acres as a very nasty playground for them
I've being applying what i was taught in off road driving to SR from day one, just about the only time i use the winch is to recover then drag another truck to where it needs delivering to
I haven't used a scout truck since Michigan to do any tasks of get watchtowers. I use a big Soviet 605/73210/64131, complete with 6 slot sideboard tri axle trailer, usually overloaded to do scouting & all in first person/cab view, using mirrors to hitch trailers & reversing trailers into delivery bays, have to hang out the side window at night as trailer marker lights not visible in mirrors (needs fixing by Devs)
Thank you!
wow
Dang, bro. Me like.
Не ожидал увидеть столь подробный и главное профессиональный разбор механики игры! Огромное удовольствие получил! СПАСИБО
Большое спасибо за эти добрые слова. Я очень рад, что вам понравилось видео.
Thanks for the work, it's really nice to see you and Max Power's work with this matter!
I appreciate that! It was a very challenging yet satisfying project especially when the Devs backed it up.
Excellent video, with great in-game footage. Thank you for the hardwork. It has completely changed the way I play Snowrunner.
Thank you!!! Glad you found it useful :)
Wow! That seriously has be the best in-depth snowrunner video i have ever seen
You've put a lot of effort into making this and it shows
Great Job Nate
Thank you!! Ya Max power and I put some work into this one. His camera work, testing, and research is second to none. Really glad you liked it!
@@NProvince who's Max?
@@vladvulcan He's mentioned in almost all my videos and his TH-cam link is in the description. :)
totally agreed!
Great video! I've been playing since the game went live and you've both taught me things I didn't know! SUBSCRIBED.
Thank you! I definitely still continue to learn a ton as I go as well. Thank you again for the Sub :)
Yours & Max Power's collaboration paid off with a great video! Entertaining to watch & informative as well. I'll be sure to watch it a few times to make sure it all sinks in 😁
Man thank you for this very kind comment! We really didnt know how people would respond to this video and it has turned out to be better than we could have hoped for. So glad you enjoyed it. We actually have watched it multiple times as well lol
Using the currently available knowledge and increased play time, I can confirm that this video is still one of the best on the selected topic.
I appreciate that Vlad! Crazy thing about this video was it was done 95% just through sheer testing. A little later when I started really paying attention to game file numbers i noticed how well they both lined up. I wanna make another video (informal) just to talk about numbers etc. I get questions all the time about this subject still. Glad you still thing its good info :)
@@NProvince I watched so many tests of tires and trucks today, and almost no one talks about how really good OHD I are. TMHS domination needs mythbusting! Not a single video on this topic that would really prove my point - except some posts on Reddit and various bits of info from here and there in the comments. The best of tests I watched prove MHS/DMHS superiority against MHS 2/TMHS in shallow mud, while the situation completely turns upside down in deep mud. But they NEVER test mud tires against offroad tires, which is a crime. I hope you will bring some light into this dark cavern of number lovers. I'd like to help with that, if you need any info, feel free to ask.
Very informative and interesting video. As a beginner of this game, still only at the dam level, i learned a lot watching this. Thank you for the great work!
Thank you for those kind words. I’m so glad that you found this helpful! Michigan is such a good region
What an excellent video! Well done to you and Max Power in putting all that effort into this video.
Thank you very much! I’m really happy that you found it useful :)
Thanks Bleeker. Making this video has always been about helping people both understand how grip and tires work in the game, but also how close to real life they have actually brought this amazing game. Making sure we were stating facts, and not expressing opinions, is why a lot of testing took place, and why it took almost a year to realize. :P
I want to thank you particularly for the tire model recommendations. Starting this game after playing Mudrunner to 100%, I was not prepared for how vital the upgrade system would be to gameplay, and even on Michigan, I've been feeling very clueless. Hopefully, this gets me on track before I start to tackle tougher maps.
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful
Great video. That had such great tips. I'm going to put some of those tips to work in Yukon and Wisconsin. I like a lot of trucks that don't have mud tyres so this has been very helpful.
Thank you! Same here, Im definitely a fan of using other options and making it work
This was a very good video. I really appreciate you taking the time to share.
Excellent video my friend, as always!
I love experiment with all type of tyres
Thank you!! Glad you liked it!
Super helpful, thx for all the testing 👌
Very well put together video. I learned a few things, I thank you for your hard work.
Glad it was helpful!
This is a video that every beginner should watch. Just awesome work
Thank you!! I definitely learned a lot when I was making this with Maxpower
Its nice to see a lot of this information about grip confirmed. I bet this video will help out newbies and veterans.
Ya man I hope it does help anyone who needs it!
Nathan do you know how great you are, this was a fantastic help got stuck at level 17 and couldn’t complete because I just kept getting stuck thank you so much.
Thank you! Max power has been the hero though; this was a great team effort. Im really glad that it helped you. Go conquer my friend!
Hey Nathan, a very interesting video! I looked forward to this. Played the game roughly 100 hours now and started to get a feeling for mud. This video helped a lot to confirm some of the feelings.
That’s awesome Chris! I’m glad this video could help confirm some things for you. I hope you enjoyed it as well
@@NProvince Yes the game is very nice now after a rought bit frustrating start. :)
That’s very interesting, all this time I have never equipped the OHD I tires on anything before, I’ve always used the UAD II. I’ll for sure give them a try. Thanks Nathan that was very informative.
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Thank you! So glad this helped you out and I hope you enjoyed it as well!
Thank you! This video is very helpful for beginners and I would love to share it with my friends.
You're welcome! yes please share it :)
Amazing as usual , thank you
Well that’s the information in this video is Valuable! Great video Nathen!
Glad it was helpful! :)
The best Snowrunner video I've ever seen, excellent
Thank you! I’m glad you liked the video :)
I’ve been playing this game for a long time but didn’t know some of the tips you’ve provided. Thanks 👍🏻
You’re welcome! Really happy you found it useful!
Thanks for this in depth information, always nice to learn new driving mechanics!
I tend to use the big bloating Tayga tires most of the time, alternated by the double rear tires when Tayga tires are not an option.
When I started this game over 350 hours ago I always thought bigger tires are better but after a while I realised more tires are usually the better option.
Hey, I’m glad you found the video to be useful. I feel like the more time in game playing, the more you learn. I feel like I’m still learning new things all the time, especially from other people or just naturally from playing.
Yet another excellent well-researched video your doing a great job. 👍
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
great video, information well worth knowing, keep up the good work!
Thanks you so much, I will try my best
Your content is a cut above. Thank you
Thank you! Much appreciated!
love this video, i played pretty much since the realesed of the game, and you just confirm thing i suspect, like the weigth allowing more grip
Thank you! glad you enjoyed this
Fantastic video. Thank you!
You're most welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!
My dumbass used to use chain tires in mud causing me really bad headache 😂.
Nowadays the game has been much easier even before watching this video.
Still learned new things
Great video! Thank you very much for your work ❤ Regards from Poland 👋
I appreciate that! Thank you!
Excellent video. I definitely didn't know some of the info provided here.
Thank you!!
Thanks Nathan and Max Power! That was your masterpiece. Thank you 💪🏼 I use the Tatra Force a lot and I often wonder if I use the best mud tires there is for him 🙂
Hey sorry for late reply. The Tatra's base tires are actually excellent. Since they are only available on those trucks, testing them intensively was not a priority at the moment we did this video but I would say most single narrow tires that were released after the base game and the base tires are some of the best in the game also. Thanks for the nice comments!
Well done! Informative, great shots, good editing!
Only thing I was missing was the number valuses spesificly for the tire types.
And a bit more about mud tires.
Overall that was a very well done vid!
Thank you!
Hey thank you! We actually decided to leave the numbers out because that is important, but we wish to focus on other things shown. As far as mud tires, They are always going to be a good option. In the video we wanted to put emphasis on non mud types to show that they are still very viable
This was amazing great job
Thank you!
Thanks for the summary. I've been riding Snowrunner with other tire configurations for almost 1 1/2 years, but I've also got as far as the Maine region. Of course I had to use the winch very often 🙂 I'll try the tires you mentioned.
Ya know, I'm all for using whatever you feel you comfortable with. I'm not necessarily a person who wants to project a cookie cutter way of things in a game, so I definitely respect that. If you can get that far on what your doing; I think thats winning. We just wanted to provide some details of our findings from the past (almost) 2 Years. I hope you enjoyed the video. :)
@@NProvince It's all good 🙂 I always chose the tires based on the look of their profile, because in the game the display values for highway, dirt and mud are always the same. And yes, your videos are always great 👍
To be honest, the fact that OHSII is the best one in its cathegory is quite the surprise for me, because not only are they not in the mudtires senction, but also, as mentioned with the UODII tires, I always thought that the most aggresive pattern= best mud performance, since you cant trust the hilarious "recommendation" in the garage. Thats one of the things I dont get on why had they made this so stupid and why cant they put there the straight data. Anyway, I really apreciate your efforts and If you didnt lie, I will see the improvement myself, since I was , as mentioned, always choosing differentaly, most notable being the MHSI, as I thought those are the best ones. 😅
Glad you enjoyed the video :)
Great video!
Монтаж, подача, видеоряд и итог общий просто прекрасны!
Спасибо!
Thanks this will be great for starters
I hope it’s useful for everyone :)
Amazing video brother
Thank you!
Great work mate!
Thank you sir!
13:19 Cool photo for your desktop
This made me realize how much physics went into making this game. Its crazy amount of detail overlooked by people and my self when playing the game. Tires might be one of the most important factor on your truck
That Royal drift at the end was awesome
Thank You! That was Max Power! Insane skill man
Thanks Daniel!! I got like 100 bad takes of that damn drift....patience pays off apparently :P take care!!
This vid deserves more views and likes
Thank you :)
Just started playing the game and this vid was very helpful the amount of times I have gotten struck😂 Thanks so much🎉
You are welcome! Hopefully the other videos on the channel help you as well!
They should add drag slicks to all trucks as a tire option.
Goooood!!
Thank you!
Hey man, this video is awesome and very helpful. I've watched all of your truck reviews and started using some trucks because of them. I have a question, what is the truck and addon at 9:48. I believe is the ZiKZ 5368 but the addon I can't recognize it. There's some time i haven't played Snowrunner, but love the game. Keep up the good work Nathan!!
Hey thank you soo much! I’m glad you enjoyed are trying different trucks out! That’s exciting! So I believe that truck is the Tatra 805 with its service addon. The Zikz doesn’t have a repair unit that looks like that. Thank you for those kind words! More to come and streams as well on twitch.
Alright fella , you have done a good job here . Im currently on my 4Th time Replaying this game then add the new content ect . good homework, and had good advice for anyone coming up or beginning this Adventure. You still have more things to add to it. Everything you mentioned to me is and was critical Due to my Impatient and the way I personally play this game. Have fun
Wow, what a great video, buddy. I wish this was out when i started the game.
It took a while, but Max power has been conducting testing for almost that long. We just felt it was time to get this info out there. Thank you rob for those kind words!
Forgot to mention....I love that broad slide at the end of the video.
@@brittspradlin1556 LOL thanks! it took Max power alot of time to get that perfect slide
great content, just started playing the game so this info is great. Your videos also have an ASMR quality to them
Thank you! Glad that you found them useful.
@@NProvince lol, just watched your difficulty ranking and realized I've jumped straight to some of the hardest maps, woops
@@samwain426 WHat maps did you start on?
@@NProvince started on Michigan, did about 75% of it then jumped to the Yukon, and have been struggling on it for a couple of days, just started the farming maps which I'm really liking
@@samwain426 Yukon can be tough for sure.The Glades is a good change up for sure. I gotta say you're brave.
I've heard that the thinner tires is for low weight cars and trucks and they are good for going offroad in winter as they " Cutting through " snow
Check my “best tires video” and also my JAT tire review as well. This will also give you more info. A thinner tire regardless is going to produce the best performance, but there are conditions that need to be met. If they are not then a wider tire adds buoyancy on a surface, but not speed. It’s weird but I hope those two videos will help.
Honestly thanks buddy🤗🤗🤗
Anytime!
I like you review to give chance to any truck
This is incredibly helpful! I wonder if you could do a video about how to pick and outfit a truck for a particular job? I'm starting to get a decent handle on which trucks I prefer, but it would be helpful to have an idea about how you decide, given a particular job/route, which truck you should pick, which tires/engine/suspension etc. I feel like I often default to the same half dozen trucks for every job otherwise.
Thank you so much! That is a really tough multilayered question. Short answer would be that alot of trucks can do jobs very well. On each one of my truck reviews I talk about addon capabilities, and also at the end I have recommended roles I list that would be good for that truck as well. I think those reviews might answer alot of your questions. Lastly stop by the stream and I can help elaborate on this.
After watching our video, you now have a pretty good idea of how to chose tires I assume. As for the rest, it is probably worthy of a video, but until we make one, there are really only a few things to consider.
1: Knowing the weight value of the cargo you want to carry, so you can chose the appropriate tires, and a truck with enough power for the job
2: How stable is you truck? Suspension height, tire size, and cargo height/weight will affect the stability in uneven terrain so you might want to skip on ground clearance upgrades, if the trail isnt too demanding and you think you can pull it off.
3:Most delivery run consist of various road surface type; however, the 2 most frustrating ones are icy slopes, and mud. Make sure you're ready for the worst case scenario with the right tires, even if it only represents 2% of the journey.
4: How much can your driving skill handle? You know how good or bad you are. Can you risk using a higher more unstable truck to get the ground clearance?...or should you play it safe with a lower truck you might need to winch out of trouble more often? You can compromise on stability, but try to get the best grip all the time.
I knew this was gonna be a good video after I saw this madlad pulling long logs with an actaeon
Ya that was all Maxpower there! I thought that was such a an awesome shot too :)
Two words … essential viewing.
Thank you! What is essential viewing?
your voice reminds me a lot of the texan beekeeper lady on YT, very soothing
A texan bookkeeper lady LOL?
@@NProvince www.youtube.com/@TexasBeeworks
I didnt realize you could feather between gears like that. From low 1 to low 2 i didnt know there was an inbetween .
That’s the Fine Tuned gearbox. I actually dont recommend using it though. It was used to make a point about wheel spin and cruise speed in a mud surface. The AWD fuel penalty on that gearbox is too punishing
Excellent job Nathan and Max, thank you for this great expertise and summary :-) Me, I am putting the double tires if I can, because I am gaining the stability and it has big surface. And I do not like the huge Tayga mud tires :-)
Thank you so much! I think you'll really have great success with those doubles especially the OHD1s
Thanks for this, late to the game but I've already got over a 100hours of gameplay under my belt and managed to come to some of the conclusions of the video on my own, but more information is always welcome. Hopefully Chain tires will get their spot under the sun at some point. Cheers. :)
I’m glad you found it useful :) I do think chains are good. I usually always have them on when I play winter maps due to surface ice and such
I’m glad you found it useful :) I do think chains are good. I usually always have them on when I play winter maps due to surface ice and such
I agree with a lot of what you are saying in this video but as a car/truck enthusiast with years of working on vehicles I have a few discrepancies that I'd like to offer. 1. Each truck in the game is designed as close as possible to the specs of it's real counterpart so each will act differently over different terrain. Some are better at certain terrain than others because of this. For instance one specific truck with the certain tires, transmission and suspension will act better or worse than another in the same class with the exact same tires, transmission and suspension. 2. It's my personal experience after having already played through the entire game several times now on both regular and hard mode that in wet and watery mud a dif lock can and most often will make things worse. As I mentioned before each truck is based as close as possible to the manufacture's specs which reflects on what I'm about to say. A differential that is not locked has what is called limited slip. When a vehicle in real life makes a turn the inside and outside tires turn at different speeds (it's science) so to prevent breakage of vital internal parts a limited slip dif is necessary to compensate for this by allowing them to turn at different speeds. Hence the name limited slip. An unlocked dif in the game works exactly the same. When traversing slippery/muddy terrain a limited slip works similarly. When a wheel endures a certain amount of load the power is transfered to the opposite tire thus preventing each wheel of the axel from digging in too much. When you have dif lock on it will cause all wheels to dig the same amount which can cause them to dig too deep and thus causing the bottom of your vehicle to hang up more. Limited slip will transfer power back forth constantly which keeps each wheel from digging too much but just enough to keep the tire engaged and the vehicle moving. This happens several hundred times a minute. The strength of the clutching system in the differential determines the amount times power is transfered. This is all relative to each truck and the application of it by the manufacturer. In the game, just as in real life, it all depends on the depth and consistency of the mud as whether a locking dif is better or not. Most of the time you will not know until you start to traverse it. My rule of thumb is to remain in unlocked until your vehicle can not move and then turn on dif lock. Your truck will do 1 of 2 things. It will sink to where locking your dif wouldn't have mattered and winching will be needed in both cases OR if the mud isn't deeper than your frame then you will have the needed traction at the bottom, thicker part which is what a true locking dif was designed for. 3. No offense but it's pronounced drive-train not drive-tran.
Nice explanations on this. Very well thought out comment. However, even though the game is a simulation, the vehicles aren’t made directly as close to real life. After learning so much more from those who look into the files of this game and those who test it’s quite different in many areas. Yes, they did a good job with terrain deformation and such, but it’s still arcadey. Concerning difflock, I disagree. Diff lock does not make thing worse in deep areas (in SnowRunnner) and that has been proven in this video, and other people who have tested this like SD1ONE, Maxpower, District_B13 and others. I greatly admire your enthusiasm and experience, but truly the game is not directly reflecting real life. You can look at collision models, weight distributions, and engine comparisons and they are going to be off the mark. The developers do this to balance the game as they see fit. I genuinely respect your experience and insight. It’s been great reading your comment. The thing is I don’t want to seem like I’m trying to shoot down your argument, it’s just I’ve spent the last 3 years exclusively playing this game, researching, and talking with people who also spend quite a bit of time researching and diving in deep into information concerning SnowRunner
I think we covered the fact that not all trucks will react the same depending on their setup pretty good. The message is simple, put weight on the tires, study the terrain, don't abuse wheelspin, and 8x8 is always better than 4x4. The game is really not as realistic as we think it is. All American 6x4 should have a rear diff lock option and we don't even have trans-axle diff lock on any vehicle...a common feature on most tractors. Power/weight ratio for the Transtar is 29,1..... P12 has 8.4. I don't know about you, but this isn't right one bit.
Great work! Txs! Can you cover what chains do to traction? I see forrestry machinery use chains, so I guess they help. Obviously snow and ice are logical, but mud?
Thank you. So essentially chains in SnowRunner stop you from slipping on icy surfaces, like rocks, roads, and ice of course. In the real world, chains absolutely aid in traction across the board, but in SnowRunner sadly they do not act that way
When you're on Yokon you want to use offroad single tires. The mud tires make you very slow in this area, once you've loaded anything.
Doubles will also make you need to shovel more mud away, slowing you down, also getting your stuck on rocks in the water much easier.
Sorry for the late response. That is a very good point especially in those deep rutted trails and such. I really like how you can switch tires up to tackle different terrain instead of just gluing a tire set and never changing them. It makes the game more strategic to do things like you explained. Thank you!
while towing a trailer i've noticed sometimes its easier to just winch it close rather than actually connect.
Ya that is a known work around, because for some reason it doesnt factor the weight of winched trailers, but then you dont have the quick winch ready IF your trucks starts to tip.
Thank you i needed the tire Thing i Always bought the one what costs the most😅
You're welcome! Glad we could help!
Can't watch right now. But I'm looking forward to this one.
I think you'll enjoy this one :)
I've played for over 27 days according to epic. There were things I did not know presented in this video. Thank you.
Hi Nathan! Love the editing on this one.
One question, I felt like narrower tires (For Example, UOD-II) performed better in shallow-ish mud than the wider ones (Like the TMHS) What’s your take on it?
So the TMHS still have a better mud rating, but also alot of a vehicles performance and grip also comes from weight as well. In shallow mud the separating of performance shouldnt be that different, but also we got to factor in our perception of what shallow mud is. As long as your UOD tire isnt bogging, its going to perform great and the UOD is a very good tire for what it is, but overall the TMHS is going to be a better option in most cases.
@@NProvince I agree with TripleSeven though. To me the TMHS I only helps in really deep bogs or to add stability.
Problem with the TMHS is while they got high grip, the depth of the mud doesn't seem to matter. The second you hit any type of mud with them tires, they slow you to a crawl. While something like the UOD II going down a trail you can often hit mud patches at some pretty decent speed and just bomb right though. But hit the same spots on a trail with the TMHS and you lose all your speed right away.
Now on the flip side use your low gears and the TMHS will keep you crawling along though a bog where the UOD will end up getting stuck. So they do help in those worse case circumstances.
But for in-general trail riding. You definitely retain more speed with offroads or even the narrow muds then the TMHS.
In my experience TMHS is best for that watery mud you mentioned as those are usually boggy and deep. More dry mud areas usually are more shallow allowing pizza cutter tires to slice though the terrain and carry more speed.
It's just something I noticed over the 1 1/2 years or so the game out. It doesn't matter if it's dry mud, wet mud, shallow mud, deep mud, when the TMHS hits any mud at all, you feel your truck lose a massive amount of speed.
I still thick it has something to do with the tires being so wide.
Like I said they are great for not getting stuck, TMHS make a great bog tire. But as a general purpose and cargo hauling tire, I still say Offroad or narrow muds are the best.
This game is great.
It really is!
I wish the game gave you more tire information to work from. I got the P12, slapped on mud tires because I assumed they were the best and got extremely frustrated that I kept getting stuck in mud. I thought "this truck is utter garbage." After some googling I found the tire chart online and switched to the double OHD's and omg, it's a world of difference. It's actually a decent truck now, but without outside knowledge I would have NEVER known that.
Also just because you didn't mention it in the video, the P12 and P16 OHD tires get bonus specs that make them even better then the standard OHD tires.
Really glad you found info on the OHDs they really are an amazing tire set to help every truck that can equip them
I am now debating on switching from UOD lll to UOD ll now for my trucks. Do you think it is a major difference between the two?
I do think the UODII is the closest thing to having a mud tires for trucks that only max out at the UOD loadout. I do like how the UODIII look, but the treads and the ratings for the UODII make it hard to deny
Awesome video cutscenes, I enjoyed watching trucks movement through mud and some drifting as well. Nicely done! As for info, I haven't learned many new tips, almost everything I did already know. But thanks anyway for some tire comparison bits, although you've told about UHD, UAD, UOD and OHD, but didn't mention the HMD, ATMD and MHS/MSH. Some questions still remain - are the duallies better than singles in mud or not? are UOD/OHD/OHS better than MHS? MHS 2 vs TMHS? I'm expecting more detailed tire comparison video where you will talk about tire weight and what does that affect.
There are no "definitive" better tire for all situations. This is what the video is explaining very clearly. It depends on a lot of factor (cargo weight, mud depth, truck engine power, availability) that you have to take into consideration when you play. You have to decide what you need according to the job you want to do and what truck you want to use. If I tell you the TMHS is the best mud tire in the game, what are you gonna do when you start in Michigan at level 2 and the Tayga tires unlocks at level 13?? There are only 10 trucks in the game capable of using it...are you gonna ignore all the other ones?
Im really glad you enjoyed the video and the truck clips. In the video, during the intro and the outro we explained why we focused on those tire sets. The question of which one is the "best" is dependent on different variables which were explained as well. How boring would a game be if there was one "cookie cutter" spec for every truck? Diversification and competition between tire loadouts makes the game much more interesting. You see people using all different types and having success with them. The determination of which one is the best for you is your decision. We've so much time to deliver the information on this video to give drivers information and allow them to make a decision. So I must kindfully and respectfully decline the expected "more detailed tire comparison." In regards to weight the video has explained effects of weight throughout the video. Those outlier tire types and the MHS were left out as we explained in the outro as well. I hope this helps and answers those questions. Truly if this game simply had "best setup" undeniably in any scenario; then it would be a very boring game and people wouldnt do things much different from the next.
@@maxpower5205, nope;) I'm curios which tires are better in which conditions, and what should I choose when there's more than one good tire available. For example, let's look at the TwinSteer. It can be equipped with 63" MHS 1, 63" OHS, or 55" OHD. Not mentioning chains. So, is it worth ignoring the bigger size for the purpose of using duallies? are they THAT better? I doubt that. As for availability - most of the times when I make a choice of a truck for a task, I consider the availability of a certain tire on it. And so here the question is raised - should I use only trucks that have mudtires available, if the route I plan to take is quite muddy and deep, or this doesn't matter and trucks with OHD/OHS only are good for the job? Or, let's imagine there's a choice between a truck with big UOD tires and a truck with smaller OHD tires - which one should I choose? The grip stats are the same, but there's also tire weight and size, etc. These are the choices that I sometimes must to take and this bothers me.
@@vladvulcan Ok so general rule...the doubles are the more stable tires and they can take more weight on the wheels from cargo. If you have to chose between an OHD and a UOD, the OHD is the best always...its mud rating is higher than the Tayga tires. Between a 63" MHS and a 55" OHD, especially on the twin steer, its up to you and your driving style but know this, a Twinsteer with 63" MHS and raised suspension, is gonna be a lot harder to keep upright than a lower 55" OHD. If it was me, yes, it is worth ignoring the tallest size tires, because I would rather have more chance to make it without tipping over..than have the tallest tires in case I hit some deep mud. The twinsteer doesn't need the tallest tires, 55" is really big already.
If you re planning a trip through a really deep mud like you said, if your dragging super heavy cargo..you're gonna need the widest tires. No trail is 100% deep messy mud though, thats why we tell people how the tires work...so you can decide what you want. There is no simple answer, even if we want to..you need to consider too many thing to use only a few tires all the time.
@@maxpower5205, thanks! As for OHD 1 - as far as I know, their stats are 0.8 asphalt/3 dirt/1.9 mud. Those with 3.5 in mud aren't really the OHDs, these are special Pacific/Cat 770 tires. Although they are named OHD 1, they are special tires for these few special trucks only, regular OHDs on other trucks don't have such stats.
Thanks . But tip for other i used a Apache with roof an trunk repairs an fuel took 2 trips and about 12 mins total
Very interesting video! I did learn some new things.
I found this video while looking for information about chained tires. Does anyone have any info on chained double vs single? I see that singles are overall winder on both front and back and probably better in mud and snow, while double are narrower and should offer better stability when traversing rocky roads. Any thoughts?
Snow is very similar to mud when it comes to grip in this game, this is why we didn't want to extend the length of this clip by talking about a tire that has no bonus in mud, and isn't necessary for snow either. The only reason while you would need to use chained tire, is when you plan on driving on ice most of the time. A lot of players just use mud or off-road tires in snow conditions because of the increased variety but if you really prefer to play with chained tires, the same rules apply for snow or mud. If you want to carry heavier cargo of plan on going through deeper snow, use double tires, if you are just exploring or bringing wood or crates, a single tire will get you through. As far as stability is concerned, a wider track is always better than a narrower one. Hope this helps a bit. :)
To piggy back on Max’s comment. Chains will have less friction values for mud and such. However I would say if you can equip a OHD chained option, I’d go for that if you wanna use chains. Usually to get chains the tire is downgraded to a UAD chain, which I don’t know why and sometimes you can still have a mud chain tire. It’s really different from vehicle you vehicle.
My personal rule of thumb is if it’s a snow map, I’ll use chains and suffer a lil bit more in snow. While icy rocks and surfaces don’t make up a bit portion of those maps; I like to be prepared I guess. Just my own personal weird take on that lol
@@NProvince @Max power Thank you two. That answered my question and will make our next play session more interesting. :)
@@golmgamer You're very welcome! Thats the reason we did the video, so that people could have more fun and try new ways of playing.
May i confirm with you that if the patch of deep mud before cosmodrome garage (from entrance) is also what you termed as underwater mud? Great Video which confirmed lots of my findings like the full steer in deep Mud (or Snow or broken ice) will allow the truck to slowly climb back up.
Thank you! I haven't been back to Cosmo is a while. Thats the one where you build the bridge with the logs. This one is kinda tricky because you also have Ice added into this equation. Overall if there is water in, around, or on directly on top of the mud, this is going to decrease grip further. I hope that answered your question :)
@@NProvince It is a tricky patch of terrain indeed. Thanks for your confimration.
13:50 only Taygas and Step Crocodile have the TMHS tire, other trucks you've shown have the lighter AMHS version of these (known as Actaeon mudtires medium)
Yes sir, we definitely are aware of those
Mud isn't a problem for me. But crushing ice is my arch nemesis.)
Crushing ice is pretty frustrating for sure
IMO CHAINS on tires should be option applied anytime like IRL - for balance maybe with time and fuel penalty.
Maybe even applied on firm ground (not in a mud or snow) - for to be a planning involved also.
Also top speed should be LIMITED, or if u go over limit tires should take damage.
That's my thoughts about this ;) for game to be more interesting
I agree they should be with the vehicle at all times and it should give like a 1 min timer to change and such to swap them on and off. Good point!
A thing ive been wondering after picking up this game last week and already having 30 hours in, for quite some truck the single tire MHS I are the only mud option, while the OHD I (and UOD I off the top of my head) spec-wise have a little less mud grip and more dirt grip, but come as double tires. would the fact that they're double rear tires providing more tire contact outweigh the fact that the mud option have more grip but only are single tires? i feel like they do but I'd be very interested to see if my feelings are correct
I think you’re on the right path. The thing about the doubles are is width you are correct, the OHD 1 and the UOD 2 both do not have the mud grip ratings like mud tires, but the separation is the OHD1s width. It can withstand deep mud without being overwhelmed and benefits more from weight giving grip. However the only true mud tire that can crawl through any mud are those balloons AMHS and TMHS due to how buoyant they are.
What about those rocks?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm?
Anyways nice video,
Also where don 71 review
And great job nathan
LOL oh goodness that would be a hard video to do. I got a ton of other reviews and videos in the que. I might do a multi scout review later though
14:40 Can you name these not normal persons? Jk.
This is some nerdy level stuff nate.
I didn't even knew things before i watched this.
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No normal people: (District) lol. Ya it is some nerd level stuff, but I hope it helps and was enjoyable to watch :)
hey sorry to ask but can you tell me which map you use to do the tests?
Well I use the maps in the game. Maxpower uses both maps in the game and a custom testing ground.
in the snowrunner gameplay overview trailer, the narrator even says that weight affects the grip.
Really? Never heard that overview. That’s pretty darn neat
@@NProvince also how'd you get those freecam animations? like the camera passing the trucks with the balloon mudtires, and the beginning where a Tayga drove away.
last thing, the bumpers have been updated after some updates that make the bumper clip through terrain
@@somerandomperrson that is a free cam mod. I believe that part was filmed in Maxpower’s mod map LogRunner for that small part
and people told me diff lock was useless, even after showing them that AWD put me in a hole without diff lock. Turning diff lock back on got me out of the hole, but not without AWD.
Diff is very very strong. Currently doing a run that really highlights diff lock only and how strong it is even if you don’t have AWD as well. (Randomizer Challenge)
@@NProvince What point is there in AWD if the only wheels that are spinning are the ones not touching the ground. And that diff lock keeps a constant/reliable speed.
I would be interested in seeing a difflock run. Because what makes it so useful isn't always obvious.
AWD is still crucial to traveling. Countless times I’ve been stuck with vehicles that lack AWD becauee your front axles is not grabbing anything. This happen a lot of uneven surfaces or crawling over obstacles. Case and point is the trucks from the western star DLC prior to getting an AWD upgrade
Looks like I just made a shittier version of your video 2 months earlier than you did XD ... Seriously tho, amazing work here, this is what I wanted to do and more...
A few things I want to throw your way incase you decide to make any more in-depth videos:
1. With mud and the "weight" section you had. I'll take a page out of my video and remind you that almost all mud in the game (except modded maps) has a "dirt" layer below it at some point, meaning tire diameter along with the width and weight are what determine grip in the conditions BECAUSE of how far it sinks into the mud. You are correct in saying that you get more grip the more you sink in, but also keep in mind that alot of the extra grip comes from the underlying dirt layer and whether you can reach it withut bottoming out, not just tire surface area in contact with the mud.
Also, I would have mentioned how suspension clearance and diameter of the tire has massive implications as to what depth of mud you can handle and whether you bottom out or not is completely subject to those factors.
The rest of that section is spot on and the visual examples are very well done.
2. Shit, I didn't even think about the "throwing mud" thing with tires, excellent point. I've naturally been driving that way after many hours but this is a lifesaver that is easy to follow as a rule for beginners.
3. Good pointers for cosmetics, I briefly mentioned them, but never provided visual examples as I was focusing on tires and grip in my video.
4. Just a sidenote for the tires (which I might add that you correctly selected the optimal tires for every class) is that most of the trucks that have very few tire options (for instance the P16) actually have their own unique stats attached to them, the P16 has insane mud grip on those tires VS the regular OHD's even though they are named exactly the same.
Lastly, I was planning on doing a follow-up video as my comments were asking for a "scout tire ranking" video, seeing as those vehicles are lighter and might be optimal with certain loadouts and I have yet to do testing on snow, among other surfaces. But after watching this I feel like bouncing a few ideas off you to see if you'd like to collaborate on a video together, let me know if that sounds good and I'll be in touch.
Hey sorry for the late reply. Indeed you are correct with those things and we did have understanding of those before we made the video. Thank you also for those kind words and critiques. As for the scout tires video, I’m not sure if I do want to do that because of a few things, I don’t feel weight affects grip on scouts as much as the larger trucks (except a few) and also scouts are really not a huge part of the game. I might change my mind on it, but in general not a lot of people really as questions or request scout reviews aside from the standout scouts.
I watched you video and really liked how you put it together. Very knowledgeable with detail and comparison. It’s good to see someone else noticing that mud tires aren’t always the standard go to.
Thanks for the reply, I'm glad you still read comments on older videos, it just tells me you actually care about feedback which is awesome. No worries on the scout video, I get that there's no demand for it.
1 last question if you wouldn't mind answering, if you aren't going to, I'll probably make a short scout video (if at all depending on how testing goes because it might be inconclusive) and I'll cover how snow effects vehicles, along with other rare terrain types. However I also might tie off some loose ends I didn't in my tire video, as there were some things I failed to mention.
If you would allow me to I want to link this video in my own 2nd video because I feel like your explanation of all the other factors of driving will mesh well with my detailed analysis and with all 3 videos combined anyone who watches will gain a relatively full understanding of exactly how the game works.
Cheers for now friend, looking forward to your reply.
I really try to reply to everyone, unless there is some outlandish comment.
I am going to make a scout review, probably not as in depth as the hauling trucks, but ya I think you can link my video in your description of your next video if you’d like. Let me know when you post that video, Maxpower and I would love to check it out!
How do the new DMHS I II III fit in?
The DMHS are the same as the MHS tires. In the code they follow the very same template. You can find them also on maprunner to confirm
@@NProvince took the time to come back on a year old video. That's why I subscribe!
Its interesting how this game strive towards realism. Snowchains can actually help in really muddy situations, but i guess not in this game?
I do still use chains in all Ice maps and they still work pretty well. However in reality they would give you some traction for sure
If the MHSII is larger, why it's not the best one? Does it has poor stats?
Well in the video we never said the MHS2's were bad. That mud tires is always a great option and its stats are still very good, but this video is placing emphasis that you don't need Mud tires to have good performance. Not all vehicles have Muds, but if I have an Option for the OHD1. I probably will use them. I hope that makes sense
@@NProvince Yesterday I found a video where the guy tested exactly this and the results was very interesting. The OHD1 outperformed even tayga tires. The tayga with ohd1 tires become close to be overpowered.
@@kodaiyoung I think I might have seen this as well. So as we mentioned in the video the Tayga tires best strength is that they will never truly get bogged down. Their very buoyant, yet their traverse speed in heavy conditions is capped as we showed in the video. Honestly I love the OHD1s. I dunno why they aren’t considered a mud tire
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