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@TheoCampbell I think you are reading too much into this comment. This is comedic hyperbole referencing the commenter's perceived "cringe-worthiness" of Linus' combined pun and double entendre. This is not a political statement. A political statement would be something like "I would like my representative in congress to propose a bill banning Linus from making this and similar statements again in the future.", which is an absurd statement that no one here is making. Making assumptions about the political positions of someone you know only through a single 10 word comment (4 of which are quoting Linus) and proceeding to insult them on the basis of these assumptions does not accomplish anything productive. In fact, people are likely to interpret it as antisocial behaviour, and may be less likely to take you seriously as a member TH-cam community in the future if you continue to behave in this manner.
If you're a programmer, you should try this keyboard. I was only 18 when I started to get pain in my right wrist, but I had been programming for a few years already. I told my brother and he bought me the first version as a gift. I've been using it for about 7 years now. I only replaced it once because I spilled beer all over it about 2.5 years ago and couldn't manage to clean it sufficiently, but by then I had a job where spending $300 on a keyboard is fine. My boss even bought me one to use at work. I have 0 wrist pain, and it saved my career. No joke, no exaggeration. I have bought the ErgoDox, and it doesn't compare to this keyboard. I'm now considering buying the second version that came out during the time I owned this one as an upgrade, and selling my current keyboard. I expect to be able to sell it for $150 still. It's that reliable and valuable. This is a small company, but for a certain audience, it's a lifesaver and there's no better ergonomic keyboard. Look for one used, because I'd bet the previous owner took great care in maintaining it.
@@God-mb8wi Yet another armchair expert...1) in fact it can take far less, 2) RSI, tendinitis, and CPT (among other issues) affect lots of otherwise fit people.
i write 105wpm on a 4 euro keyboard and no fucks given. You have to adapt to things, not just thinking that because it was ,,designed'' for something it is for it. It's just cheap marketing bullshit
There is Ergodox EZ with a very similar layout that is a bit cheaper, but this ergonomic market is pretty niche and even DIY kits cost around 260$(I built my own Ergodox infinity). It is not impossible to make a cheaper keyboard but probably not at this volume.
As a professional coder that types all day every day, I love this keyboard. Been typing on one for 7+ years. I will say, your productivity may plummet for a few days, but if you stick with it, you'll end up loving this keyboard.
I'm a professional coder too, I use Ergodox (like this but smaller, and without the finger wells). It's interesting that there are so many unusual keyboards among coders compared with other people who also need to spend all their time typing on a keyboard.
@@Milamberinx programmers are just the type of people to try doing things differently for optimization sake. It is a personality type that ends up driving them to programming
I was installing a security system for a customer and a wire got stuck in the wall. I told my assistant to 'finger it out', rather than destroy the wall with pliers. The customer heard me and called my boss! When I got back to the office, my boss said that the customer complained that it was a 'sexually explicit' statement! I had no idea that it could have been misunderstood that way. Maybe I'm naive, but I'm more inclined to believe that the customer had the dirtier mind.
I've used this keyboard for about 16 years - it gets pounded on daily (I'm a developer so I type a lot). It's moved country twice and, other than having issues with USB3.0 controllers, it's still working like a dream. The keys are Cherry MX Browns - they're practically indestructible. Yeah, it's expensive, but how many of you have kept a keyboard for over a decade and a half? Seriously. I didn't buy it because of pain or whatever, it was just really comfortable. Maybe there was a learning curve, I don't know, but I can easily switch between this and a regular keyboard without problems.
J.J. Yasir based on other similar (based on time/experience with it) comments, probably not so good. I say probably, because two other comments say that they type a lot for their jobs, and it does an excellent job for that. However, the general consensus is that for scrolling through the Internet, or gaming, or other activities where you might need both, they switch to a standard keyboard
+Thomas Lai oh god, surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome is my worst fear ... I’m mainly getting pain in my mouse hand right now. Do you have any ergonomics tips to prevent it?
+Fjodor F I switched to a wireless vertical mouse half a year ago (standard 5 button vertical mouse from havit). I don't regret making that decision one bit. Using these type of mice doesn't require you to learn using them. It's a bit unusual, but you will get used to it very quickly. Your hand gets slightly tilted but that's it. And my cheap-ass mouse even let's me play games like Hyper-Light Drifter just fine. I admit that I'm lazy so I don't bother plug in my standard mouse when trying to play more faster paced games or games that requires you to aim very precisely. Not the best option to play competitively, but it gets it's stuff done. So I don't mind using it in combination of singleplayer games or multiplayer games. Other people in this comment section have mentioned trackball mice. Can't really say anything about it, because I never used one. So maybe try out one of them and if you like it try upgrading to a good model. Here is a really nice review that I can relate to. After all I always have been using standard mice and never bothered thinking about my wrist until it started to hurt. www.tested.com/tech/accessories/817768-testing-ergonomics-vertical-mice/
Frankly, if you're considering a keyboard like this (or the ergodox, or the truly ergonomic - all three are priced about the same and have similar advantages), then it means you're weighing the keyboard against never being able to type again because of increasingly severe RSI. $350 is cheap compared to the salary difference between a programmer who can type vs one who can't. Besides, when you compare it to other mechanical keyboards, the price difference isn't that huge. Any decent mechanical keyboard is around $100-150, so one kinesis is around the price of three standard mechanical keyboards. If it lasts three times as long (and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it did - they're really well constructed), then it's not really any more expensive.
Regular Keyboard: Cheap. Ergo: Not terribly expensive Mechanical: Not terribly expensive Ergo+Mech: "ow much u got?" I've got one of these at work and it's a lifesaver for hand pain. (company paid for half) At home where I game, I have an ergodox EZ, which is a similar layout but flat.
Samuel Nelson you might be right about that. But the keyboard it self is overpriced. Period. Guess they are trying to milk the ones, that really need it. I am aware, that they pulled of a design, that no one else have, so they can charge for that. And it also has neat feautres I guess. But in no way they can justify the price tag of 350$ for that thing. I can totally understand why you would want, or in some cases even need one. But still, there is nothing in or on that keyboard, that is worth the price. It is simply sold overpriced.
Switching to this keyboard is about 1 week of wanting to set it on fire and go back to a regular keyboard. However, when you are done and can use it: it is the best keyboard I ever had. Now on the price: I use a keyboard about 8-10 hours a day and make money with it. $300-350 depending on the deal. If you compare it to your car, that might be used less than 7 hours a week, and cost 10-20-30K, I don't even consider how this could be a "too expensive" item. Just my 2c
wife still uses her 15 year old Kinesis advantage, as a paralegal, so a very typing intensive job. she breaks 100 words per minute with cold hands... these keyboards last.
NordboDK - my wife is a court transcriber and easily blows through 2 keyboards a year. She uses the Microsoft Ergonomic board. They're getting harder to find locally so she keeps an extra one around. I've bought her different keyboards to try but she always goes back to her Microsoft. I'm going to buy her this one to try since her carpal-tunnel is just getting worse.
I've used this keyboard daily since 1999. My hands are sensitive to typing and this keyboard has truly been revolutionary for me. The price is well worth it.
For some people the price tag is definitely not a deal breaker. I do agree though that the construction looks weak and they for sure cheeped out on some aspects that should not be acceptable at that price range.
I've been using the Advantage Kinesis keyboard for almost 5 years now, and it has SAVED MY WRISTS. There's no other way of putting it. It's so comfortable now that the thought of using a standard keyboard makes me cringe in pain. The learning curve, however, is steep. It took me about a month to reach my old typing speed. But then again, I now type even faster than I used to. What the Kinesis is NOT suitable for is, as pointed in the video, casual web-surfing. If you want to keep one hand on the mouse and handle all keyboard duties with one hand - well, that's simply not physically possible with the Kinesis. For a couple of years, I kept my old keyboard on my desk and switched between them. When it was serious typing time, I used the Kinesis. When I just wanted to surf some sites or play games, I turned over to my old keyboard. In the end I just got too tired to switch between them and learned to use the Kinesis for everything. It's not as convenient, perhaps, but those were the best ~300$ I ever spent. My wrists are worth infinitely more than that.
I was thinking more along the lines of server to client scripted distribution, transparent to the end user. Have a set of company standard macros, department/job specific mappings, etc. that can be pushed out from the IT dept. via Group Policy. The last thing you want is individual users customizing things that you have to then support. ;)
4 years with this keyboard and I have to say it was one of my best purchases. Zero wrist pain since then. Took me about 2 months to get used to it, now I can type as fast as before. Insane durability, it behaves just like the first day. I'm getting their new Kinesis 360 soon because I can carry it inside a small backpack, but I'm sure the current one will last at least one more decade.
I've been using a Kinesis Ergo for years. Literally. I've been using the one that I bought back in like 2003-ish pretty much continuously. It just keeps working, and it has kept my hands happy. And that last is the most important because before I started using it, I had *severe* hand/wrist pain. I couldn't pick up my kids, open my car door, or drive a stick without major pain. The Kinesis *WORKS*. Buy one. It's worth relearning how to type...
I bought mine in the mid-90's, and I had pretty much tried ALL OTHERS. Nothing even comes close to the Kinesis. I was actually really surprised at how short the learning curve was - really for me it was a matter of closing my eyes and just thinking where the keys 'should' be and just type. It is really hard to describe, but that is honestly all it took to adapt. Mine came with the old PC/XT plug (yep, huge 5-pin looking thing) and in the beautiful (NOT) yellow/brown cream color that all pc's had in the day. I wouldn't trade it for anything!
So you use this massive keyboard that takes up the whole desk space for only the left hand and leave none for the mouse. I don't see the benefits out weighing this.
I don't type like a normal person. I just have my subconsciousness pick out a finger and then that finger presses the next key. I don't know why but the normal way to type always seemed odd to me.
Daniel Conley I have this method of "Fast plucking" where my brain just tells the closest finger "go press that button" and it does that. Kind of like 1st graders tapping at keys but I can reach speeds of about 70-80 words per minute.
I'm definitely a "pecker" lol I mostly use my first two fingers, but can type pretty fast. I didn't learn the home row keys and stuff in school until after we got a home computer.
I like what they do. This IS innovation that has been lacking in the keyboard market. Instead of all this RGB bullshit they address a serious issue: preventing RSI. They did this adequately by shaping it such that your arms and hands have the natural position (no muscle strengt required because you don't deviate from it) and they looked at both the placement of the keys and the shape. Wether or not they got it perfect at the first attempt doesn't realy matter to me, this is the way to go forward and other companies should definitely follow that example. Next step: different sizes for different builds of people.
UniCore, I'll take your word for it, it is the first time I have seen it be done this extreme. adamthedog , I would guess that it is expensive because it is a niche product, when manufactured on a large scale I don't see any reason why it should be significantly more expensive. I am afraid that it won't get to this large scale unless the companies push it given the fact that many people would indeed need to relearn how to use a keyboard and given people their tendency to choose the route of least resistance.
This isn't "innovation", there are tons of these split ergonomic keyboards, some of which are actually in two independent pieces. There is nothing new or special about this keyboard.
The ErgoDox copied the Kinesis, not the other way around. Kinesis has been around since 1992, and the shape has been almost exactly the same all this time - the differences being mostly on the inside. The current model does have some groundbreaking firmware though. The Kinesis had in turn copied the Maltron, which has been around since the 1970s and is even more niche and expensive because those are all hand-made.
@xxpyroxx75 it's worth $350... much cheaper than wrist surgery. "it simply does not cost that much to produce" newsflash: ALL companies have to sell their products at a higher price to make money
I have been waiting for you to do this keyboard. I have been using it for years and I absolutely love it! I can use my thumbs for other things than pressing the space bar. What's not to love? No.... time to watch the video.
Jesper Bengtson So have I. I have an older version, white, that I have had for probably 15+ years by now, complete with foot pedals. It looks worn, but still works. Same keyboard! It looks a bit plasticky, but it is nevertheless built like a tank.
Jesper Bengtson Yeah, mine does look a bit worse for wear... it isn't the easiest keyboard to keep clean either. And I *don't* want to know what grows in those palm rest pads... :-) But it still does stellar service. I should get myself a replacement or two though. Are your black ones built the same way as the old one? That is, do they feel as solid as the white one?
Keeping in mind that it was five years since the old one broke, as far as I can remember the black one felt a lot better. I'm sure it's as dirty as the white one but at least it's harder to tell visually. It still makes the annoying clicky sounds that you have to manually shut off. I have no idea who ever thought that would be a good idea to have on a keyboard.
Would MIDI do the trick for you? I believe it shouldn't be that complicated to do something like that. An acoustic piano with this congif sounds like an impossible feat, though.
Did you just assumed no. of hands I have? I identify myself as an octopus... stop this unrealistic hand standards. my community needs more representation in technology.
Delicious Kawaiigami idk. discovery maybe. see discovery is something which was originally there...we just didn't knew about it until someone was like " see this is how it happens". while an Invention is creating something new. in case of maths....for example something as simple as the pythogurous theorem. ... it was always true but no one knew about it until pythogurous figured it out.
Available in dvorak, both dvorak+qwerty, open source tools available for making custom keycaps.... There's even modded/custom firmware for the board itself.
@Lec sjfsadk When your job is all about typing, and using a "normal" keyboard can or already does cause intense pain you'll understand the need for an erogonomic keyboard. I had the microsoft sculpt previous to the Kinesis and I would occasionally get lazy and use bad posture with my wrists and pay for it for about 2 days.
I've used the Advantage Pro for years, which appears to be the same keyboard, and I would never go back. I placed a mouse pad in the middle. This would be a major improvement.
If you want to learn to touch-type, I suggest TIPP10 (to learn the basics) and then once you have the right habits to move on to sites like typeracer or 10fastfingers
IF you can type correctly and fast enough for your needs then why change? I hit B with my left hand, but I hit Y with my left. and im pretty sure that im supposed to hit the Y key with my right index not left index finger. I can get 95-98 wpm on a good day. Stuff like this is why I dont like the fancy "ergonomic" split keyboards because if you have a slightly different typing style than what is NORMAL then you have to relearn how to type. Or they have strange large buttons towards the bottom to make up for it.
Exactly... Because "normal" 10finger typing is actually slower in most cases since it makes you press keys with the same exact finger again instead of another one from the other hand that could reach in shortly to reduce the time... But no the internet again has to make all people learn it the wrong way... Learn typing as you can get used to and how you can use it in your daily life the best... Who even said that 10 finger system is even remotely usable in certain applications? I can only say that it is not, humans adapt to their needs, not to the standards... Sadly this changed over the course of developing technology :(
Right side by default. I changed mine to the left side. Swapped with backspace, I think. You can pull the key caps off and reprogram the keys any way you want.
As a programmer I started to develop RSI in my right wrist. My manager (who still uses his original Kinesis Advantage 1 from 25 years ago) recommended this keyboard to me. I can say with confidence that It saved my career. Now if I spend a couple hours typing on a regular keyboard or a MacBook Pro I'll start to develop pain again but with the Kinesis Advantage 2 I can type all day long. When your salary depends on it spending $350 on a keyboard is nothing. I've already bought another one to keep at home.
Right. The problem is - where it is works fine when you're doing regular typing. But if you're slacking off and lounging around your desk and just want to type the space bar with your left hand - you're outta luck.
I have had 3 of them over the past 20 years - it's all I use. Amazing product - amazing tool. Once you learn to use it - you will never go back.. Great service. Not so good for gaming - or programming... other people can't use your computer.
Yeah I got it specifically for programming, and I love it for that. Having the arrow keys so close is incredibly useful. I agree it's not for games, I always have a regular keyboard plugged in at the same time just for games.
I tried this keyboard for several months. My hands are medium size for a male and I found my fingers were too short to easily reach the furthest away keys. I also found the vertically straight alignment of the key columns to be difficult. I appreciate that electronic keys do not need the older staggered style as they are not mechanical like typewriters were, but I found it too difficult to get used to. Maybe I've just been typing on the old layout for too many decades. Maybe if you're younger it's much easer to readjust. I've now found my perfect keyboard: the Matias Ergo Pro. The quality of the keys and solidity of the build is like a Rolls Royce. It's also built in 2 separate halves and is 'tented' for a more natural wrist position. The programmable macro keys are superbly useful.
Same. This keyboard is not that good if you have small hands, especially if the switches are LF. Reaching the key outside the home row means you have to twist your hand in bad positions and the thumb clusters don't offer enough keys to bind a good set of modifiers and layout changes (only 2 keys per thumb are comfortably reachable) if you'd like to use only the keys near the home row.
*yet That you don't have yet. Neither do I, and I used to think this didn't matter but I just loved the idea of split keyboards so I got one and had work buy me one too. Then one of my colleagues developed RSI. I gave him my second board and his pain and discomfort disappeared in a day. He hasn't had pain again and uses only this keyboard now. Makes me think I'm reducing the chances of developing an issue now.
Pro-tip: Ctrl + arrow keys moves to the start / end of a word. Holding shift when using the arrow keys highlights. If you get that into muscle memory, you can manipulate words significantly faster. These Kinesis keyboards were meant for programming code faster and more efficiently.
I do that on regular keyboards! Alt and arrows for the start and end of the line too. I only ever use actual home end and page keys when I’m reading an article, not typing.
I type in Dvorak. through learning the new layout, I now touch-type every word with the correct finger and it would be an easy transition to ortholinear -- that's an added advantage to learning Dvorak :)
I have actually used one of these keyboards about 10 years ago. The wonders of the IT Tech. Also helped someone change their system back from being in Chinese after their kid got their hands on it.
This keyboard is definitely a niche product for 2-hand typing purposes only, it is just bad for 1 hand use (e.g. +mice or handicap), but personally I wouldn't use it even for a 2-hand typing, just due to the amount of time it would take me to train myself typing on it without mistypes. And on top of that the quality for 350$ is just far away from what you can get for that price.
I have read from multiple people who switched to one and the adaptation time seems to be around two weeks, really not that bad. Even regular keyboards arrangements can require that much time to get used to.
I have used one over 20 years, can't live without it. Very durable, I take it everywhere. For the 10 key, they sell a foot pedal to activate the embedded 10 key. Smartest layout ever. Can do macros too. Just needs RGB lights in the keys. They could drop the price, seriously. But, I do have to buy another, just because I need more keyboards. You can turn off the key noises. Linus, get the foot pedal, I don't use the button to enable the 10 key.
I guess I'm a hardcore typist, since the thought of typing "c" with my index finger made me cringe. Then again I have my own really bad habit of exclusively using the left shift key. I'm not sure how that started, since the type-to-learn program we had in grade school definitely taught proper use of modifier keys.
I know what you mean. I guess it makes sense if you've never used a typing tutor, and you learn to type via hunt and peck. I switched to an Ergodox EZ from a Microsoft Natural 4000, I did have to move things around from the default layout to get my own productivity up but the only letter keys I remember having any significant trouble with were V and B. It's just because the B was so much closer, I would type it when I'd intended to type a V.
Simple. Middle finger won't bend that way. Not everyone is born with the same body. My teacher would get on my ass about using different fingers for different keys but seriously? Like, it hurt. I didn't want to completely displace my hands on the keyboard because my fingers legit don't want to bend like that and I feel twinges of pain in my wrist. My index works just fine. One hand can bend each individual finger, one can without moving the rest, same with toes. Some people can bend their tongue, some can't. Some are born with some extra tendon in their hand, some aren't. I think that's the whole point of boards like this too. Different needs. Almost twenty years of typing and I've no pain anywhere in my wrist or hand. :/
not possible to use keyboards with both hands without bending my wrists, cause keys are squeezed together keyboard manufacturers: lets make keyboards even smaller!
Some people need to transcribe audio files for work and those people use pedals to start/stop/rewind with the pedals so they can type without having the need to take theird hands of the letters to do those things.
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"Let's fiiiiiiinger it out."
Yeah, don't say that ever again.
more like lets finger it IN if ya know what I mean!
@TheoCampbell I think you are reading too much into this comment. This is comedic hyperbole referencing the commenter's perceived "cringe-worthiness" of Linus' combined pun and double entendre.
This is not a political statement.
A political statement would be something like "I would like my representative in congress to propose a bill banning Linus from making this and similar statements again in the future.", which is an absurd statement that no one here is making.
Making assumptions about the political positions of someone you know only through a single 10 word comment (4 of which are quoting Linus) and proceeding to insult them on the basis of these assumptions does not accomplish anything productive. In fact, people are likely to interpret it as antisocial behaviour, and may be less likely to take you seriously as a member TH-cam community in the future if you continue to behave in this manner.
@@willoliver9960 Well put, I don't think anyone has ever put this out as clearly - albeit it's a bit long.
I only liked this because it was on 666 wat I don’t give a crap about it being the devils number!I just want to fuck with the ocd people
@@willoliver9960 r/iamverysmart
If you're a programmer, you should try this keyboard. I was only 18 when I started to get pain in my right wrist, but I had been programming for a few years already. I told my brother and he bought me the first version as a gift. I've been using it for about 7 years now. I only replaced it once because I spilled beer all over it about 2.5 years ago and couldn't manage to clean it sufficiently, but by then I had a job where spending $300 on a keyboard is fine. My boss even bought me one to use at work. I have 0 wrist pain, and it saved my career. No joke, no exaggeration. I have bought the ErgoDox, and it doesn't compare to this keyboard. I'm now considering buying the second version that came out during the time I owned this one as an upgrade, and selling my current keyboard. I expect to be able to sell it for $150 still. It's that reliable and valuable.
This is a small company, but for a certain audience, it's a lifesaver and there's no better ergonomic keyboard. Look for one used, because I'd bet the previous owner took great care in maintaining it.
Weak genetics? It shouldn't take only 2 years to experience pain in your wrists due to strain
physiotherapy woulda been free
@@jesusiskingofkingsz Do you want to be doing that your whole life?
@@God-mb8wi Yet another armchair expert...1) in fact it can take far less, 2) RSI, tendinitis, and CPT (among other issues) affect lots of otherwise fit people.
i write 105wpm on a 4 euro keyboard and no fucks given. You have to adapt to things, not just thinking that because it was ,,designed'' for something it is for it. It's just cheap marketing bullshit
the headphones at the start are pretty much the exact design of the ones that they recently did a video on
the abyss
I love how I love how I love how I love how *JUST SHUT UP*
@@Nah-pd1sv very sorry, it won't happen again
Lettherebegames good job editing it
@@Nah-pd1sv 👍
When it gets knocked off by a Chinese company for less than 40 bucks, I'll buy one.
"No space bar on the left side" Never mind...
I think you could remap the space bar to the left site and change the caps
just what i wanted to say
There is Ergodox EZ with a very similar layout that is a bit cheaper, but this ergonomic market is pretty niche and even DIY kits cost around 260$(I built my own Ergodox infinity). It is not impossible to make a cheaper keyboard but probably not at this volume.
I would pay it even 150$ but for the price they offer I wouldn't even think about it. A very cool idea non the less
As a professional coder that types all day every day, I love this keyboard. Been typing on one for 7+ years. I will say, your productivity may plummet for a few days, but if you stick with it, you'll end up loving this keyboard.
I'm a professional coder too, I use Ergodox (like this but smaller, and without the finger wells). It's interesting that there are so many unusual keyboards among coders compared with other people who also need to spend all their time typing on a keyboard.
Haha I'm a software dev, but type 32 wpm and use a shitty old keyboard
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@@Milamberinx programmers are just the type of people to try doing things differently for optimization sake. It is a personality type that ends up driving them to programming
@@RobKohr That's so true.
0:42 Was that sexual harassment?
#metoo
I was installing a security system for a customer and a wire got stuck in the wall. I told my assistant to 'finger it out', rather than destroy the wall with pliers. The customer heard me and called my boss! When I got back to the office, my boss said that the customer complained that it was a 'sexually explicit' statement! I had no idea that it could have been misunderstood that way. Maybe I'm naive, but I'm more inclined to believe that the customer had the dirtier mind.
@@shmaxo now thats a real durty mind test
Yes it was
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3:33 “Weak ass little finger” Linus chill...savage man lol
Fahim Zahir lmfaoo
I've used this keyboard for about 16 years - it gets pounded on daily (I'm a developer so I type a lot). It's moved country twice and, other than having issues with USB3.0 controllers, it's still working like a dream. The keys are Cherry MX Browns - they're practically indestructible. Yeah, it's expensive, but how many of you have kept a keyboard for over a decade and a half? Seriously. I didn't buy it because of pain or whatever, it was just really comfortable. Maybe there was a learning curve, I don't know, but I can easily switch between this and a regular keyboard without problems.
used one for 10 year plus as well, as someone who had surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome they really help.
how is gaming on it?
J.J. Yasir based on other similar (based on time/experience with it) comments, probably not so good. I say probably, because two other comments say that they type a lot for their jobs, and it does an excellent job for that. However, the general consensus is that for scrolling through the Internet, or gaming, or other activities where you might need both, they switch to a standard keyboard
+Thomas Lai oh god, surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome is my worst fear ... I’m mainly getting pain in my mouse hand right now. Do you have any ergonomics tips to prevent it?
+Fjodor F I switched to a wireless vertical mouse half a year ago (standard 5 button vertical mouse from havit). I don't regret making that decision one bit. Using these type of mice doesn't require you to learn using them. It's a bit unusual, but you will get used to it very quickly. Your hand gets slightly tilted but that's it. And my cheap-ass mouse even let's me play games like Hyper-Light Drifter just fine. I admit that I'm lazy so I don't bother plug in my standard mouse when trying to play more faster paced games or games that requires you to aim very precisely. Not the best option to play competitively, but it gets it's stuff done. So I don't mind using it in combination of singleplayer games or multiplayer games.
Other people in this comment section have mentioned trackball mice. Can't really say anything about it, because I never used one. So maybe try out one of them and if you like it try upgrading to a good model.
Here is a really nice review that I can relate to. After all I always have been using standard mice and never bothered thinking about my wrist until it started to hurt.
www.tested.com/tech/accessories/817768-testing-ergonomics-vertical-mice/
-350$
-no rgb
Galaxy CXVII how fuckin dare they?
Galaxy CXVII no backlit
-tfw meme arrows are taboo
elei tfw you try to green text on TH-cam.
I don't even think it has a backlight, fuck rgb, at least have a backlight
that keyboard looks like a foot massager
Techoverse lol
0:00 he just predicted the 5k headphones linus is going to review 2 years before!
Lol i thought that was a reference to that video. Didn't even look at the dates.
"Your weakass little finger" 😂😂😂
pressed2 "But let's pussyfooting around..."
Where
that sitcker is killing me, WHY IT ISNT IN THE CENTER
Brazuka - Leo your spelling is killing me
Damnit!!! I never noticed that and I look at this thing all the time! Now I'm gonna think about it! Thanks a lot @Brazuka_TXT!
The lights are centered, it just so happens they designed a sticker to go around the lights that doesn't have them in the middle of the sticker.
I'd consider it but $300+? Hell no.
Frankly, if you're considering a keyboard like this (or the ergodox, or the truly ergonomic - all three are priced about the same and have similar advantages), then it means you're weighing the keyboard against never being able to type again because of increasingly severe RSI. $350 is cheap compared to the salary difference between a programmer who can type vs one who can't.
Besides, when you compare it to other mechanical keyboards, the price difference isn't that huge. Any decent mechanical keyboard is around $100-150, so one kinesis is around the price of three standard mechanical keyboards. If it lasts three times as long (and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it did - they're really well constructed), then it's not really any more expensive.
Regular Keyboard: Cheap.
Ergo: Not terribly expensive
Mechanical: Not terribly expensive
Ergo+Mech: "ow much u got?"
I've got one of these at work and it's a lifesaver for hand pain. (company paid for half)
At home where I game, I have an ergodox EZ, which is a similar layout but flat.
Same
Samuel Nelson you might be right about that. But the keyboard it self is overpriced. Period. Guess they are trying to milk the ones, that really need it. I am aware, that they pulled of a design, that no one else have, so they can charge for that. And it also has neat feautres I guess. But in no way they can justify the price tag of 350$ for that thing.
I can totally understand why you would want, or in some cases even need one. But still, there is nothing in or on that keyboard, that is worth the price. It is simply sold overpriced.
Samuel Nelson I get that but for people who don’t type constantly for long periods of time, it’s not worth it.
Switching to this keyboard is about 1 week of wanting to set it on fire and go back to a regular keyboard.
However, when you are done and can use it: it is the best keyboard I ever had.
Now on the price: I use a keyboard about 8-10 hours a day and make money with it. $300-350 depending on the deal.
If you compare it to your car, that might be used less than 7 hours a week, and cost 10-20-30K, I don't even consider how this could be a "too expensive" item.
Just my 2c
wife still uses her 15 year old Kinesis advantage, as a paralegal, so a very typing intensive job. she breaks 100 words per minute with cold hands... these keyboards last.
NordboDK - my wife is a court transcriber and easily blows through 2 keyboards a year. She uses the Microsoft Ergonomic board. They're getting harder to find locally so she keeps an extra one around. I've bought her different keyboards to try but she always goes back to her Microsoft. I'm going to buy her this one to try since her carpal-tunnel is just getting worse.
Joshua Potter sooo, did you buy it?
asking the real question here
+NordboDK At first, I read your wife was a paraplegic, not a paralegal, so I was wondering what went wrong.
No lights at all, it's a keyboard, not a monitor ;)
I've used this keyboard daily since 1999. My hands are sensitive to typing and this keyboard has truly been revolutionary for me. The price is well worth it.
For some people the price tag is definitely not a deal breaker. I do agree though that the construction looks weak and they for sure cheeped out on some aspects that should not be acceptable at that price range.
Yes it is peter... yes it js
I agree! I love this keyboard... similar problem for me, I started getting serious hand and wrist problems. This keyboard saved me!
Dennis lowkey enjoyed sitting on the pole
Tee B well you just said it
EmHo Okay Mr. 6 year old.
1:56 That expression....
I've been using the Advantage Kinesis keyboard for almost 5 years now, and it has SAVED MY WRISTS. There's no other way of putting it. It's so comfortable now that the thought of using a standard keyboard makes me cringe in pain.
The learning curve, however, is steep. It took me about a month to reach my old typing speed. But then again, I now type even faster than I used to.
What the Kinesis is NOT suitable for is, as pointed in the video, casual web-surfing. If you want to keep one hand on the mouse and handle all keyboard duties with one hand - well, that's simply not physically possible with the Kinesis. For a couple of years, I kept my old keyboard on my desk and switched between them. When it was serious typing time, I used the Kinesis. When I just wanted to surf some sites or play games, I turned over to my old keyboard. In the end I just got too tired to switch between them and learned to use the Kinesis for everything. It's not as convenient, perhaps, but those were the best ~300$ I ever spent. My wrists are worth infinitely more than that.
Ignatius J. Reilly Informative! Well done.
Judging at the comment it looks like you work for Kinesis
Fu Sensei I'm sure he does the account seems fake and has nothing to it..
Fu Sensei no liked videos or anything, it's a fake comment from the company.
carolyn mmitchell some people don't like videos, they have uploads though... but japanese?
the fact that that keyboard costs more than my computer in total
WakelessLon your videos are incredibly unfunny
WakelessLon you wrote that two times
Well considering the fact that mine was free off the side of the road same
That’s one cheap computer
thats the cheapest computer that i've ever seen
Wow txt files are emailable!
Good for centralized distribution in an office environment, which is where most of these will probably end up.
PongoXBongo Why not Google Docs?
I was thinking more along the lines of server to client scripted distribution, transparent to the end user. Have a set of company standard macros, department/job specific mappings, etc. that can be pushed out from the IT dept. via Group Policy. The last thing you want is individual users customizing things that you have to then support. ;)
There are people with a Kinesis at work and one at home.
People do share layouts with each other also.
Does anyone use .txt any more. I thought you could use pages, .rtf or word files
7:51 "Might just be your type" I see what you did there
But can you play crysis?
It will give you a crysis.
stonecoldtrk crisis*
Cum Dumpster the game is spelled with a y so I stuck with it :P
Buy a orbweaver, I play just everything there, is awesome!
At 4k 69fps
Linus' Bizarre adventures... Ep. 1 Bizarre Keyboard
You thought it was Linus making these videos...
BUT IT WAS ME DIO!
Lol!
is that a fucking JOJO REFERENCE
EF_Wagon Yes it is
Phantom Row
Mistype Tendency
Keyboard Crusaders
Ergonomics is Unbreakable
Windows Aureo
Switch Ocean
CherryMX Ball Run
Linuslion
I am fairly certain there would be a market for that kind of chair!
4 years with this keyboard and I have to say it was one of my best purchases. Zero wrist pain since then. Took me about 2 months to get used to it, now I can type as fast as before. Insane durability, it behaves just like the first day. I'm getting their new Kinesis 360 soon because I can carry it inside a small backpack, but I'm sure the current one will last at least one more decade.
I've been using a Kinesis Ergo for years. Literally. I've been using the one that I bought back in like 2003-ish pretty much continuously. It just keeps working, and it has kept my hands happy. And that last is the most important because before I started using it, I had *severe* hand/wrist pain. I couldn't pick up my kids, open my car door, or drive a stick without major pain. The Kinesis *WORKS*. Buy one. It's worth relearning how to type...
@David Freer It's more than justifiable, especially with developers and pros in mind. Buy it and try it risk free for 60 days FFS.
@David Freer, by the way, you might wanna give Programmer Dvorak keyboard layout a try.
I bought mine in the mid-90's, and I had pretty much tried ALL OTHERS. Nothing even comes close to the Kinesis. I was actually really surprised at how short the learning curve was - really for me it was a matter of closing my eyes and just thinking where the keys 'should' be and just type. It is really hard to describe, but that is honestly all it took to adapt. Mine came with the old PC/XT plug (yep, huge 5-pin looking thing) and in the beautiful (NOT) yellow/brown cream color that all pc's had in the day. I wouldn't trade it for anything!
*"Let's Finger It Out!"*
Kakarot overNineThousand I was like FFS rlly Linus
I K R
( Attempting to think something dirty )
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
This line made my buns sticky.
I think this is for office jobs, not for gaming.
How tf are u suppose to build in fortnite
I think the lack of arrow keys already tells people that.
How am I going to play my flash games?
100% Macros would be more useful for programmers too. Not gamers.
So you use this massive keyboard that takes up the whole desk space for only the left hand and leave none for the mouse. I don't see the benefits out weighing this.
@@swaze6001 You dont, you uninstall the game
This + Dvorak = Lightspeed Writer
Exactly what I was thinking. Something I would strongly consider.
Wife has recorded 128 wpm with this one's predecessor and dvorak
I use an Ergodox (like this but without the finger well design) with qwerty, I don't know that I could take the performance hit to learn Dvorak.
I don't type like a normal person. I just have my subconsciousness pick out a finger and then that finger presses the next key. I don't know why but the normal way to type always seemed odd to me.
Daniel Conley I have this method of "Fast plucking" where my brain just tells the closest finger "go press that button" and it does that. Kind of like 1st graders tapping at keys but I can reach speeds of about 70-80 words per minute.
I just use both left and right hands to type. I use a touchscreen tablet (tablet with a touch screen).
I'm definitely a "pecker" lol I mostly use my first two fingers, but can type pretty fast. I didn't learn the home row keys and stuff in school until after we got a home computer.
Me too
yeah, i feel like hardcore typists would laugh at me for my "inferior" typing methods.
I like what they do. This IS innovation that has been lacking in the keyboard market. Instead of all this RGB bullshit they address a serious issue: preventing RSI. They did this adequately by shaping it such that your arms and hands have the natural position (no muscle strengt required because you don't deviate from it) and they looked at both the placement of the keys and the shape. Wether or not they got it perfect at the first attempt doesn't realy matter to me, this is the way to go forward and other companies should definitely follow that example.
Next step: different sizes for different builds of people.
Well to be fair this layout mapping has been around for like 10-15 years.
Yeah, it's an Ergodox layout. They're sadly often quite expensive.
UniCore, I'll take your word for it, it is the first time I have seen it be done this extreme.
adamthedog , I would guess that it is expensive because it is a niche product, when manufactured on a large scale I don't see any reason why it should be significantly more expensive. I am afraid that it won't get to this large scale unless the companies push it given the fact that many people would indeed need to relearn how to use a keyboard and given people their tendency to choose the route of least resistance.
This isn't "innovation", there are tons of these split ergonomic keyboards, some of which are actually in two independent pieces. There is nothing new or special about this keyboard.
The ErgoDox copied the Kinesis, not the other way around. Kinesis has been around since 1992, and the shape has been almost exactly the same all this time - the differences being mostly on the inside. The current model does have some groundbreaking firmware though.
The Kinesis had in turn copied the Maltron, which has been around since the 1970s and is even more niche and expensive because those are all hand-made.
Wait. I thought it was stupid because I typed the letter 'c' with my index finger, but apparently I'm not the only one.
the layout is wrong, you're supposed to use your index finger for c and v, using the middle finger for c is impossibly awkward
I agree, it's like typing the 'm' with your middle finger.
mate i don't follow any rules, i just press the key i want with the finger that decides to land on it
FloK Van I hear ya. I prefer to just headbutt my keyboard to type things out
+spiral64
No, it's not. It's awkward to relearn if you learned it "the bad" way.
I used this keyboard for five years ago around 2001. it was fantastic I avoided Carpal Tunnel syndrome, ad typed over 50% faster.
350$ and no RGB lighting!? who are you kidding?
Yonatan ಠ_ಠ
but can it play crysis?
zZiL341yRj736 no.. no.
@xxpyroxx75 it's worth $350... much cheaper than wrist surgery. "it simply does not cost that much to produce" newsflash: ALL companies have to sell their products at a higher price to make money
350$ Nacho platter
I got something like this, and i often put plate of food in the middle of keyboard, you can type and eat 10% more ergonomically
Never say " let's finger out" again
Crouching in videogames has strengthened my pinky, it is no longer a "weak-ass little finger", but is instead a "slightly-less-weak little finger" :)
this is such a weird looking keyboard. *as I say typing on the exact model keyboard*
Brotation cx lol unfunmy
@@somnia3423 I always wonder if the idiots that comment "unfunny" think they're funny
@@mentalpopcorn2304 well i only can speak for me and i dont think i was funny, and it wasnt my atempt to be funny
I had exactly that thought. Hard to argue when people say how damned weird it looks. It is really freaking weird looking. I love this thing.
this is stupid, strap the sides to a gaming chair and ill buy it.
Dont you dare to forget RBG lighting.
Ranger Furby maybe you can do it with this www.keymouse.com/gallery
There's separated dvorak keyboards you can find for cheaper
Somebody's done something similar before:
www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6a65d2/lets_split_mounted_to_the_arms_of_my_chair_typing/
Don't know if that would make sense if you need to use your mouse as well.
I have been waiting for you to do this keyboard. I have been using it for years and I absolutely love it! I can use my thumbs for other things than pressing the space bar. What's not to love?
No.... time to watch the video.
Jesper Bengtson So have I. I have an older version, white, that I have had for probably 15+ years by now, complete with foot pedals. It looks worn, but still works. Same keyboard! It looks a bit plasticky, but it is nevertheless built like a tank.
I actually had the white one as well, but it broke on me after many years of use. I now have two black, one for work, and one for home.
Jesper Bengtson Yeah, mine does look a bit worse for wear... it isn't the easiest keyboard to keep clean either. And I *don't* want to know what grows in those palm rest pads... :-) But it still does stellar service. I should get myself a replacement or two though. Are your black ones built the same way as the old one? That is, do they feel as solid as the white one?
Keeping in mind that it was five years since the old one broke, as far as I can remember the black one felt a lot better. I'm sure it's as dirty as the white one but at least it's harder to tell visually.
It still makes the annoying clicky sounds that you have to manually shut off. I have no idea who ever thought that would be a good idea to have on a keyboard.
This might be a dumb question, but what are the foot pedals actually for? Do they work as ctrl and alt keys or something?
When linus said "perfect by the book typist" I felt proud of myself
you should create a weird tech series
Right after they finish their two hundred other series.
tech series doesn't need a "season finale"
There's a channel called "LazyGameReviews" that does a series called "oddware." Might want to check it out.
dkire13 I love me some lgr.
LGR is awesome. thanks anyway
This was a very well written review! Who wrote this?
What did the keyboard say to the man?
Finger me
Pranav I'm one year late, but shame on you.
Retro Plus w t f
Stop please.
@@RetroPlus lmfao
bruh
"Finger that out."
"Might be your....type."
Get out, Linus.
Now I want a piano like that.
Just buy one of these and use a keyboard program. ;)
adamthedog No man i mean a real piano like this keyboard lol
Michele Caronti lol
You'd probably become a billionaire if you could invent one.
Would MIDI do the trick for you? I believe it shouldn't be that complicated to do something like that. An acoustic piano with this congif sounds like an impossible feat, though.
Did you just assumed no. of hands I have?
I identify myself as an octopus...
stop this unrealistic hand standards.
my community needs more representation in technology.
Number of hands is a social construct.
Tadeusz Kantor was math a discovery or an invention?
Delicious Kawaiigami
idk. discovery maybe.
see discovery is something which was originally there...we just didn't knew about it until someone was like " see this is how it happens". while an Invention is creating something new.
in case of maths....for example something as simple as the pythogurous theorem. ...
it was always true but no one knew about it until pythogurous figured it out.
Math is an invention, not discovery.
UID Ninja justify your answer....like I did😬😬😬
this is the best review I have ever seen, it made me laugh while also being informative and useful. 10/10 would watch again
Dvorak typing alievated all typing problems for me.
Stephen Austin glad to hear! If I had it I might fix my rsi in my fingers. But I can’t find one
Warning: Dvorak typing is the best.
And, if you use it, you will ruin your life.
@@thehammurabichode7994 okay??
"Mandatory comment about Colemak."
Dvorak sucks. It doesn't fix the problems a C++ programmer faces cause the right pinky still does way to much work.
Scrapyard Wars Next WEEKEND on TH-cam
Really?
thats what they said on WAN Show last night, coming to Floatplane Club this weekend and TH-cam one week later, so next weekend.
DanielRichards644 you the real MVP
Dennis sitting on the tripod was Lit
"Let's finger it out"-Linus 2017
please dun like this comment, leave it as 69 please....
Retro Fury I had I feeling that was gonna be the first comment I see
Retro Fury 👉
+Retro Fury good quote
Retro Fury I'll do the fingering.
Been using one since 1996. Saved my career. Tried lots of other keyboards, but this is the best for both productivity and RSI prevention.
You can build a PC for $350 LOL
not a good one
You can do both when you're an adult with a real job
actually, depedns on what you need
Pentium g4560 and rx470 + other parts = 350$
@BeyondOGTD you forgot the rest of the computer. a gpu alone won't work.
FINALLY someone reviews a keyboard that doesn't have a layout from 1800's typewriters! THANK YOU LINUS.
Remappable, keycaps will be replaceable
But why would you use that? It's one of the ugliest keyboards I've ever seen. I understand the benefits, but looks matter.
it can easily be switched to DVORAK if that is your thing.
Available in dvorak, both dvorak+qwerty, open source tools available for making custom keycaps.... There's even modded/custom firmware for the board itself.
@Lec sjfsadk When your job is all about typing, and using a "normal" keyboard can or already does cause intense pain you'll understand the need for an erogonomic keyboard. I had the microsoft sculpt previous to the Kinesis and I would occasionally get lazy and use bad posture with my wrists and pay for it for about 2 days.
this gave us the dactyl manuform so even though I've never touched one of these I still have this to thank
I've used the Advantage Pro for years, which appears to be the same keyboard, and I would never go back. I placed a mouse pad in the middle. This would be a major improvement.
Wait... What? Apparently I've been using the wrong hand for the B key. (Right hand) I didn't even know that I've been using it wrong.
If you want to learn to touch-type, I suggest TIPP10 (to learn the basics) and then once you have the right habits to move on to sites like typeracer or 10fastfingers
If you are right-handed than you are using the correct hand.
IF you can type correctly and fast enough for your needs then why change? I hit B with my left hand, but I hit Y with my left. and im pretty sure that im supposed to hit the Y key with my right index not left index finger. I can get 95-98 wpm on a good day. Stuff like this is why I dont like the fancy "ergonomic" split keyboards because if you have a slightly different typing style than what is NORMAL then you have to relearn how to type. Or they have strange large buttons towards the bottom to make up for it.
Exactly... Because "normal" 10finger typing is actually slower in most cases since it makes you press keys with the same exact finger again instead of another one from the other hand that could reach in shortly to reduce the time... But no the internet again has to make all people learn it the wrong way...
Learn typing as you can get used to and how you can use it in your daily life the best...
Who even said that 10 finger system is even remotely usable in certain applications? I can only say that it is not, humans adapt to their needs, not to the standards... Sadly this changed over the course of developing technology :(
true
wheres the space bar?
Meow Meow on the right side
Right side by default. I changed mine to the left side. Swapped with backspace, I think. You can pull the key caps off and reprogram the keys any way you want.
left thumb
0:42 when me and the wife get into an argument
Emanuel Isakov nice
As a programmer I started to develop RSI in my right wrist. My manager (who still uses his original Kinesis Advantage 1 from 25 years ago) recommended this keyboard to me. I can say with confidence that It saved my career. Now if I spend a couple hours typing on a regular keyboard or a MacBook Pro I'll start to develop pain again but with the Kinesis Advantage 2 I can type all day long. When your salary depends on it spending $350 on a keyboard is nothing. I've already bought another one to keep at home.
Jason Parraga r u serious?
3:02 well now i know why i dont bent my right hand like that :D You dont need to bend your right hand like that to type.
But can you play type racer?
I pawn it, with that keyboard.
I can imagine Linus secretly using this.
Every time it cuts to a black-and-white shot, I swear I hear a deep, ethereal voice say, "Has *this* ever happened to you?"
My first reaction when I saw the keyboard: Wheres the space bar?
Right. The problem is - where it is works fine when you're doing regular typing. But if you're slacking off and lounging around your desk and just want to type the space bar with your left hand - you're outta luck.
4:54 lmao I use my thumb for c
So do I, lol
Chan Yoo HOW DO YOU USE AN INDEX FINGER FOR C?!?!?!
_NotADuck it’s the only way
I have had 3 of them over the past 20 years - it's all I use. Amazing product - amazing tool. Once you learn to use it - you will never go back.. Great service. Not so good for gaming - or programming... other people can't use your computer.
Curious why its not good for programming? Harder to reach brackets/braces then normal?
I think it's amazing for both programming and gaming, just everything.
Yeah I got it specifically for programming, and I love it for that. Having the arrow keys so close is incredibly useful. I agree it's not for games, I always have a regular keyboard plugged in at the same time just for games.
I tried this keyboard for several months. My hands are medium size for a male and I found my fingers were too short to easily reach the furthest away keys. I also found the vertically straight alignment of the key columns to be difficult. I appreciate that electronic keys do not need the older staggered style as they are not mechanical like typewriters were, but I found it too difficult to get used to. Maybe I've just been typing on the old layout for too many decades. Maybe if you're younger it's much easer to readjust. I've now found my perfect keyboard: the Matias Ergo Pro. The quality of the keys and solidity of the build is like a Rolls Royce. It's also built in 2 separate halves and is 'tented' for a more natural wrist position. The programmable macro keys are superbly useful.
Same. This keyboard is not that good if you have small hands, especially if the switches are LF. Reaching the key outside the home row means you have to twist your hand in bad positions and the thumb clusters don't offer enough keys to bind a good set of modifiers and layout changes (only 2 keys per thumb are comfortably reachable) if you'd like to use only the keys near the home row.
This vid came up when I searched up "worlds weirdest keyboards"
This keyboard seems like a really expensive way to solve a bunch of problems that I don't have.
*yet
That you don't have yet. Neither do I, and I used to think this didn't matter but I just loved the idea of split keyboards so I got one and had work buy me one too.
Then one of my colleagues developed RSI. I gave him my second board and his pain and discomfort disappeared in a day. He hasn't had pain again and uses only this keyboard now. Makes me think I'm reducing the chances of developing an issue now.
forget about the shape, even the color combination looks awful.
Pro-tip: Ctrl + arrow keys moves to the start / end of a word. Holding shift when using the arrow keys highlights. If you get that into muscle memory, you can manipulate words significantly faster. These Kinesis keyboards were meant for programming code faster and more efficiently.
I do that on regular keyboards! Alt and arrows for the start and end of the line too. I only ever use actual home end and page keys when I’m reading an article, not typing.
you're my *type of character*
why
did you just reply "why" to your own comment?
Suitcase Crow because i can
My first one lasted me 10 years , and my current one is going on 5 years. Zero problems. Zero wrist pain.
I have fibromyalgia and this looks like it would really help me, as most of my pain is in my arms.
Aye so do I. (This is my brothers account btw)
I type in Dvorak. through learning the new layout, I now touch-type every word with the correct finger and it would be an easy transition to ortholinear -- that's an added advantage to learning Dvorak :)
0:42 When you go to the doctors after pleasuring yourself with a spacebar
Wait wait wait the case at 1:00 THATS THE CASE WALMART USES LOL
not quite, this one looks like it could actually breathe a little ;)
Why's there an ethernet/analogue cable sticking out of the keyboard at 0:33 ?
Hoekynl pretty sure he stated that was for a foot pedal. I could be wrong though.
Hoekynl looks like a rj11
Chad Glenn maybe
a foot pedaL?????
So this keyboard support vim-clutch (really, google it) out of the box. Sweet
I have actually used one of these keyboards about 10 years ago. The wonders of the IT Tech. Also helped someone change their system back from being in Chinese after their kid got their hands on it.
This keyboard is definitely a niche product for 2-hand typing purposes only, it is just bad for 1 hand use (e.g. +mice or handicap), but personally I wouldn't use it even for a 2-hand typing, just due to the amount of time it would take me to train myself typing on it without mistypes. And on top of that the quality for 350$ is just far away from what you can get for that price.
I have read from multiple people who switched to one and the adaptation time seems to be around two weeks, really not that bad. Even regular keyboards arrangements can require that much time to get used to.
it looks like old men created this
Tyler Whieler the video or product?
PaddyDoesTech the boy
your title video is anime. Under no circumstance should your opinion be considered.
i would not take that keyboard even if someone offers it to me for free
more like ancient men
0:42 when my Lego piece gets stuck in my mum
*in your mum..?*
I have used one over 20 years, can't live without it. Very durable, I take it everywhere. For the 10 key, they sell a foot pedal to activate the embedded 10 key. Smartest layout ever. Can do macros too. Just needs RGB lights in the keys.
They could drop the price, seriously. But, I do have to buy another, just because I need more keyboards.
You can turn off the key noises.
Linus, get the foot pedal, I don't use the button to enable the 10 key.
Linus's bizzare tech adventure
Kono Linus da
I guess I'm a hardcore typist, since the thought of typing "c" with my index finger made me cringe. Then again I have my own really bad habit of exclusively using the left shift key. I'm not sure how that started, since the type-to-learn program we had in grade school definitely taught proper use of modifier keys.
I know what you mean. I guess it makes sense if you've never used a typing tutor, and you learn to type via hunt and peck. I switched to an Ergodox EZ from a Microsoft Natural 4000, I did have to move things around from the default layout to get my own productivity up but the only letter keys I remember having any significant trouble with were V and B. It's just because the B was so much closer, I would type it when I'd intended to type a V.
Simple. Middle finger won't bend that way. Not everyone is born with the same body. My teacher would get on my ass about using different fingers for different keys but seriously? Like, it hurt. I didn't want to completely displace my hands on the keyboard because my fingers legit don't want to bend like that and I feel twinges of pain in my wrist. My index works just fine. One hand can bend each individual finger, one can without moving the rest, same with toes. Some people can bend their tongue, some can't. Some are born with some extra tendon in their hand, some aren't. I think that's the whole point of boards like this too. Different needs. Almost twenty years of typing and I've no pain anywhere in my wrist or hand. :/
I own two of these, one at home, one at work. They're worth every penny.
if a doctor makes me use this keyboard id rather not use a computer at all
no rgb no buy
James Ch u tell em
0:06 that would hurt.
how do you use a mouse with that keyboard .-.
How do you think
not possible to use keyboards with both hands without bending my wrists, cause keys are squeezed together
keyboard manufacturers: lets make keyboards even smaller!
kind of wonder how a right handed tartarus would feel to type on
or a mouse full of buttons
"It might be just your type "
Did u get it? Type :D
“Let’s finger it out”
-Linus 2017
What would a foot pedal be used for?
usually modifier keys like shift and ctrl, people use it for stuff like emacs
Wah
Some people need to transcribe audio files for work and those people use pedals to start/stop/rewind with the pedals so they can type without having the need to take theird hands of the letters to do those things.