@@Get_yotted gotta have a certain cable though you want a 12v cord with 2-2.5 amps and for more fancy modern radios you may need 5 amps id check the manual that comes with the radio or the sticker on the radio itself theres also a lot of youtube videos out there on this
@@Arszene Not how it works? The base applies 2nm max. The Force Feeback will feel weaker due to the heavier wheel but thats it. It does still exert the same amount of force. It wont exceed that no matter how big and heavy the steering wheel is.
I actually have a business getting ready to launch making modded parts and modding logitechs for customers. Been doing it since the driving force gt released. Anyways if your running a deep dish wheel, you have to reinforce the steering stem. Also you'll be better off completely disconnecting motherboard, and button housing. Run wires through the steering stem and mount the buttons in a button box. Depending on how you want it setup you may need to extend the wires a bit. Also make sure your wheel is a cheap ebay one if you haven't upgraded the rack n pinion gear set yet. If you want to run a real wheel, a heavier wheel, or a larger diameter, your gears will strip pretty badly over time. Typically noticeable around the 4-8 month mark depending on usage. One last thing if you decide to run a heavy, deep dish wheel thats almost twice the diameter, you'll need more than just the helical gear upgrade, a motor upgrade will more than likely be needed as well. Otherwise you'll start having over heating issues later on trying to over use the motors by increasing ffb in game beyond what they can handle. Although the cnc helical gear set would increase tq by roughly 19% you end up losing around 26% tq with oversized wheels assuming its a quality brand
Mostly with the logitech wheels. Thrustmasters will be fine as long as you have a decently strong wheel. T300 and up is what I would recommend if you want a wheel like this.
if you r going to change your steering wheel, at least pick a light one, there are some cheap ones on aftermarket, a heavy wheel will completely destroy/overheat you ffb motor over time
true n like the spacer as well, i made my own spacer jus with a metal plate n drilled holes which is way lighter than the ones bought online n stronger than those 3d printed ones
@flosa1995 ofc it does. Try putting a suzuki engine on a chevy impala, ofc its going to strugle to move out of the place, bc its biggier and heavyer. im saying this by my own expirience. I have both a 300mm drift wheel and also the original one, the bigger the wheel is, the weakyer the ffb feels, im not going to explain it bc english is not my main language, and i probrably wouldnt explain it well. But the bigger the dyiameter of the wheel, the weakyier the ffb feels.
@@PozeFivem The force feedback is still the same The wheel is made to max apply 2.3nm of torque It doesn't matter if you use it at 100% ffb with a bigger wheel It would if there was a massive rpm increase of decrease but that isn't the case either All we did is decrease the *perceived* effect of the force feedback We do NOT drive the belt drive harder than before As you said the ffb is less with a bigger wheel which implies that it still uses the same amount of power In your example you drive the engine with higher rpm, temp and speed to match previous performance of a stronger engine We don't do that with the g29 If this was your example the car would be a lot slower as you would have to still use that engine with the identifical stress as before it was swapped into a heavier vehicle So yes, it feels weaker But no, it doesn't destroy the ffb as you implied in your initial comment I also have a 350mm wheel on my g29
Thrust master: just buy a new wheel and switch wheels Logitech: you gotta become a temporary mechanic to install your wheel MOZA: wheel comes off. Other wheel goes on
Yeah it's based on wheel diameter but weight can affect it too which is why I'm not going to modify mine, I'm selling mine soon as I have ordered my first DD wheel
I feel like a larger diameter wheel would fuck with the internal mechanisms over time. That extra leverage going to cause a lot of strain and wear it out I bet Cool as hell tho
So always get a aftermarket wheel that’s lighter or the same weight as the original wheel. Lighter wheels will actually make the ffb stronger (not gonna explain why) and the same weight will well feel the same. Heavier wheels will make the ffb worse and make it more prone to failure and overheating.
That's true if the diameter of the wheel and weight location are the same, in this case he will loose (if that's a 320mm wheel) 12.5% of force just from the size difference, + a bit more since that wheel has most of its weight in the edges (that's because of leverage and inertia)
@@cesarjuniorcardoso1 Yep. If a wheel is light enough while being bigger it will still counterbalance or be more forceful but in most cases aftermarket = weaker
Gut gemacht 👍🏻 aber zu großes Wheel für die Klapper Base und shifter zu weit weg ! Spar lieber ein kleinwenig auf ein fanatec csl zum Beispiel ! Es gibt dafür schöne Lenkräder
Should i buy logitech g29 or thrustmaster t300 or t300 rs gt for my First wheel? I play ets2 ans plan on buying games like forza horizon 5 or assetto corsa.
@@SHADOW-oj5yzdon't it's a waste of money, the ffb is weak, it will keep all your neighbours and entire house up because how loud the gears are and the wheel isn't interchangeable also the h shifter is overpriced plastic garbage
Would this damage the gearing inside of the steering assembly due to the larger torque applied (through extra weight or potentially a larger steering wheel?)
putting a bigger wheel on will give you more mechanical advantage over the motor, therefore dulling the force feedback. I wouldn't recommend doing this with a normal sized wheel
"my fingers dont reach the shifter😭😭😭"
they sell longer paddle shifters for deep dish wheels online
Who are you quoting
Yeah you might have to get longer paddles after this 😂😂
@@SimRacingSucks just drill me some extension to the shifters
Imagine using paddle shifters 😐
Bro is slowly making his set-up a car
😢😅😢😅
Next up: how to engine swap your racing sim
@@gangstashankz7791😊
@@gangstashankz7791جججججججججىر
Might as well buy a car
Can we talk about how good the stock wheel looks without the controls
fax
no, we cant talk about it.
@@seallz You know...
that aint a bad idea
yeah g920 has the cleanest stock wheel
@@kadsicthat’s the g29
How can an racing setup look expensive and cheap as fuck at the same time? I dont know but this man knows.
Now you either need a real car to put it in, or just a car radio that works.
Phone?
@@SalihAhmad597 No.
Car radio is easy, just 12V power, and wire in speakers.
@@Get_yotted gotta have a certain cable though you want a 12v cord with 2-2.5 amps and for more fancy modern radios you may need 5 amps id check the manual that comes with the radio or the sticker on the radio itself theres also a lot of youtube videos out there on this
and a car dashboard
He is born to destroy the whole Logitech g29 ☠️
?
@@joeyb7084bigger wheel means bigger force needed for the motor to simulate FFB, hence it'll wear it out faster
@@Arszene
Not how it works?
The base applies 2nm max.
The Force Feeback will feel weaker due to the heavier wheel but thats it.
It does still exert the same amount of force.
It wont exceed that no matter how big and heavy the steering wheel is.
yeah, but your Force Feedback will suffer alot, so it is not really recommended
No it does not
@@Bill-bi7sk you sure? A heavier and bigger steering wheel will put a lot of stress on the force feedback mechanism, especially on a G29
@@Bill-bi7skThat's just how torque works. 2.5 Nm with such a large diameter isn't gonna do much
@@hamzerpanzerI don’t know if anyone here has the wheel but is it kinda strong. Like to the point where it doesn’t just feel like a slight push?
What if you use a lightweight sturdy wheel ? That will make it better than worse
TO EVERYONE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU DO THIS CONEVERSION YOU WILL LOSE ALMOST ALL YOUR FORCE FEEDBACK
Not if you adjust your force fees back settings :)
how
@@SimRacingSucksu are still adding unnecessary weight to put the same round type wheel... geniouus.
Yeah, it makes a difference on even the thrustmaster tx/t300 wheels, can only imagine a logitech wheel with one of these lol.
@sebastiancastillo8763 how do you know how much the other wheel weights lmao maybe it's lighter?
This is actually the only TTS that doesn’t make me want to break something. I call it the Shogun Assassin voice
buuuuuuut its the scream voice
Well
Glad its not the DickDock girl voice
Its ghostfaces voice from scream
Aside from 'undo these to screws'. We have some really really advanced tech, but somehow some TTS don't correctly pronounce 'two'?
The logitech's quick release in action.
How to make the Logitech force feedback even weaker😂
😂😂😂😂
Literally
Yea and it will die
It aint that weak brother,u never had it
@@hl8939 i did have it for your information, it was my first wheel
This man has simultaneously the most baller and most ghetto setup
my wheelbase alone costs more than his whole setup lmao
@@ryleyhall6972 my chewing gum in the back of my pocket costs more
if you add a bigger steering wheel like that you loose a lot of force feedback
Not if the wheel is light
@@fbi4671 its also the size of that steering wheel that he did install because the force feedback gets disturbed on a large surface so that's why.
That was so amazing set up brother, I wish I could have that one someday.
I recommend getting a quick release on it so you can take it off when it has to calibrate to extend the life on the set up, set up looks fire though
That would involve modifying the steering column which most people would probably try to avoid
I did this with a 3D printed adapter to momo, then attatched an nrg quick release to make it interchangeable with other wheels
I actually have a business getting ready to launch making modded parts and modding logitechs for customers. Been doing it since the driving force gt released. Anyways if your running a deep dish wheel, you have to reinforce the steering stem. Also you'll be better off completely disconnecting motherboard, and button housing. Run wires through the steering stem and mount the buttons in a button box. Depending on how you want it setup you may need to extend the wires a bit. Also make sure your wheel is a cheap ebay one if you haven't upgraded the rack n pinion gear set yet. If you want to run a real wheel, a heavier wheel, or a larger diameter, your gears will strip pretty badly over time. Typically noticeable around the 4-8 month mark depending on usage. One last thing if you decide to run a heavy, deep dish wheel thats almost twice the diameter, you'll need more than just the helical gear upgrade, a motor upgrade will more than likely be needed as well. Otherwise you'll start having over heating issues later on trying to over use the motors by increasing ffb in game beyond what they can handle. Although the cnc helical gear set would increase tq by roughly 19% you end up losing around 26% tq with oversized wheels assuming its a quality brand
At that point, it would be much better to get a thrustmaster wheel and do this mod if youre saying to upgrade the motor in the logi wheels.
@GamerGavin04 the motors are only like $30 so it's still well within the realm of being budget-friendly
@@damarlo1 Well damn that isnt too bad at all.
Just had to say that it will make the force feedback be awful because the wheel weight and size, it's better to get at least a light one.
Mostly with the logitech wheels. Thrustmasters will be fine as long as you have a decently strong wheel. T300 and up is what I would recommend if you want a wheel like this.
Your actually a legend
if you r going to change your steering wheel, at least pick a light one, there are some cheap ones on aftermarket, a heavy wheel will completely destroy/overheat you ffb motor over time
true n like the spacer as well, i made my own spacer jus with a metal plate n drilled holes which is way lighter than the ones bought online n stronger than those 3d printed ones
@@grizzyt2757I’ll like to see a picture of it
Uhm no?
This doesn't change how much fbb is being applied
The g29 is made for 2.3nm torque and a bigger wheel doesn't increase that
@flosa1995 ofc it does. Try putting a suzuki engine on a chevy impala, ofc its going to strugle to move out of the place, bc its biggier and heavyer. im saying this by my own expirience. I have both a 300mm drift wheel and also the original one, the bigger the wheel is, the weakyer the ffb feels, im not going to explain it bc english is not my main language, and i probrably wouldnt explain it well. But the bigger the dyiameter of the wheel, the weakyier the ffb feels.
@@PozeFivem
The force feedback is still the same
The wheel is made to max apply 2.3nm of torque
It doesn't matter if you use it at 100% ffb with a bigger wheel
It would if there was a massive rpm increase of decrease but that isn't the case either
All we did is decrease the *perceived* effect of the force feedback
We do NOT drive the belt drive harder than before
As you said the ffb is less with a bigger wheel which implies that it still uses the same amount of power
In your example you drive the engine with higher rpm, temp and speed to match previous performance of a stronger engine
We don't do that with the g29
If this was your example the car would be a lot slower as you would have to still use that engine with the identifical stress as before it was swapped into a heavier vehicle
So yes, it feels weaker
But no, it doesn't destroy the ffb as you implied in your initial comment
I also have a 350mm wheel on my g29
Fact- He can now use g29 steering in car 😂
FFB now non existent with that heavy ass wheel on the G29 xD
Bro is a hero fr
Thanks this help a lot tysm
Thrust master: just buy a new wheel and switch wheels
Logitech: you gotta become a temporary mechanic to install your wheel
MOZA: wheel comes off. Other wheel goes on
nice driving , if ever i get money i will do a simulator cabin
I might take that spacer from my car to do this 💀
Wow that wheel look so cool! where did u get that?
This guy has the Theseus' Ship of the G29.
Good day to you, Mr. SimRacingSucks. I was wondering where you got your new rim, and what spacer that is? Thank you.
Nice video. Just so everyone knows if you switch your will you lose quite a bit of force feedback just thought I’d add that so people know.
Thanks, Nice Info 👍
Your awesome dude
You are!
Ty this helped
"white wire"
*proceeds to take out a black wire*
Did it with my g29 before upgrading to a DD. Only problem is the ffb isn't has good but I definitely approve the wheel👍
Yeah it's based on wheel diameter but weight can affect it too which is why I'm not going to modify mine, I'm selling mine soon as I have ordered my first DD wheel
Bro nice set up 😂
Oh yeah my name is Mr scratchy voice, I'll be the narrator for this tutorial
This mod is for people that failed highschool science, this is a great way to reduce the force feedback on your wheel
I feel like a larger diameter wheel would fuck with the internal mechanisms over time. That extra leverage going to cause a lot of strain and wear it out I bet
Cool as hell tho
Are you satisfied with Logitech g29? Do you have any complaints? Vibration vs.
I like the wheel as it is (I have a g29)
But that is well cool
How did you get those extra set of bolts for the steering wheel or did you just buy them?
"Remove the blue button"💀
what abt it
@@flyingdogeonrobloxmfs be laughing at anything
shit wasn't funny
@@draxuno ong
wow pure comedy i am pissing tears
Do you like it? Does the imput feel noticeablely weaker?
I like yr diy wooden driving stand
And lets say i would take a BMW e36 M wheel instead of a racing wheel Like in the Video how would i do it with that then or is it the Same?
If you want a free f1 wheel but have the g29 just unscrew the wheel and use the paddleshifters as the handles, cheapest way to get an f1 wheel
SimRacing: "Remove the wheel and disconnect the white wire"
"Diconnects black wire"
“Disconnect the white” proceeds to show black wire
The wire with a white end…
@@Matty27 he told the white wire when it was black he did not say white end 😑
@@Waddlester well thats clearly what he meant, thats what people normally say
🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿 Dude thanks 🙏🏿
Bro doing risky shid💀
can you make a tutorial how to install the base version? As in a tutorial on how to plug all the wires in etc.
Changing the motor and power source ❌
Changing just the wheel ✅
thanks for making that observation i think thats all of our goal here
Thanks for poison tutorial Bro😅
So always get a aftermarket wheel that’s lighter or the same weight as the original wheel. Lighter wheels will actually make the ffb stronger (not gonna explain why) and the same weight will well feel the same. Heavier wheels will make the ffb worse and make it more prone to failure and overheating.
That's true if the diameter of the wheel and weight location are the same, in this case he will loose (if that's a 320mm wheel) 12.5% of force just from the size difference, + a bit more since that wheel has most of its weight in the edges (that's because of leverage and inertia)
@@cesarjuniorcardoso1 Yep. If a wheel is light enough while being bigger it will still counterbalance or be more forceful but in most cases aftermarket = weaker
It does not mess with the FFB, you need to turn it up on the control panel/game you are playing. I’ve had my for 2 years with no problems.
I want to do this thank you 👍
Go for it!
it was pretty good
What custom wheel are you using for this.
ladies and jentlemans... my logitech was burned
i have a wheel and a adapter on its way rn im very exited
Gut gemacht 👍🏻 aber zu großes Wheel für die Klapper Base und shifter zu weit weg ! Spar lieber ein kleinwenig auf ein fanatec csl zum Beispiel ! Es gibt dafür schöne Lenkräder
Welcome to lack of FFB central!
Do you need to screw back paddle shifters and buttons?
Can you do tutorial for the g920???
Does someone know what’s the name of that new wheel or where you can buy it? Thanks
Yeah, that's a way of doing it. There has long been an adapter that does not remove the buttons behind the steering wheel.
Should i buy logitech g29 or thrustmaster t300 or t300 rs gt for my First wheel? I play ets2 ans plan on buying games like forza horizon 5 or assetto corsa.
Prob thrust master
@@SimRacingSucks thanks but t300 is price of g29 and stand for it combined so ill probably get the g29 with stand
@@SHADOW-oj5yzdon't it's a waste of money, the ffb is weak, it will keep all your neighbours and entire house up because how loud the gears are and the wheel isn't interchangeable also the h shifter is overpriced plastic garbage
nice
Thanks
How to turn a 2nm belt driven wheel into a 1nm belt driven wheel
next tutorial: How to put the Logitech steering wheel in your car
take care with the steering wheel weight, cause it can broke the spacer if it's too heavy
please can you write the link where you bought the steering wheel and the blue headband? thank you so much bro❤
Blue headband?
Would this damage the gearing inside of the steering assembly due to the larger torque applied (through extra weight or potentially a larger steering wheel?)
putting a bigger wheel on will give you more mechanical advantage over the motor, therefore dulling the force feedback. I wouldn't recommend doing this with a normal sized wheel
T300RS: 🤫🧏♂️
Where do you get the blue adapter? Thanks
can we talk about the shifter sequential setup, imma have to copy that bro 😭
Will this bring the airbag light on? asking for a friend.
that looks suuuuuper unstable, looks like the wheels angling on the mount fairly hard
Also adding a heavier wheel will give you about 20% FFB reduction.
Now i am watching this video in reverse
What do you play this on for the device?
I run a deep dish sparco wheel and love it for drifting
i just want a truck g923 mod wheel for ets2
Hey can make a video of how to make detachable like in real life cars
U gotta make sure that the wheel is really light so that the g29 still has somewhat strong ffb
do you lose any force feedback with the deep dish?
Could you telle where to find one of your steps for a ps3 please that way when I'm playing drifting games I don't crash all the time?
my guy I think you're just bad
This is literally just a skill issue
No I just want one to try out
As you learn to drive for real
You will get better at driving games
@@Fullsend6589 then why say so you don’t crash all the time? It’s not going to improve your gameplay your still gonna crash because your trash sorry 🤡
Can you make one of the Ferrari thrust master t80 where you can fully steer the steering wheel
Should I do this to my g920
His favorite word: Approved
If only they made their own custom wheels
Me shameless watching it while I don't hve it
Bro literally here in the philippines the g29 shifter pedals cost 16k😭
16k philippines pesos is equal to 286 USD.
@@jayyhick65I know but it’s expensive
@@Gamingwithme595it's cheaper than in the UK currently, going by currency convertion
From where can I get the steering wheel and the spacer? And if you have it can you send me the link
One question how much does the custom wheel that you bought weigh
Which ones did you use
Or just buy a Thrustmaster Wheelbase
i cant afford it
Some people can't afford to buy one although I can't say this is any better than just saving