I have Ozzie in the top 5 but maybe I'm being a biased braves fan. I see alot of haters of him even tho, like you said he is in the elite level class. Also would like to see him hit righty for a full season to see what he is capable of.
No way fletch is a bottom 5 second baseman. Not only did he play gold glove defense, he had a 26-game hit streak and he was hitting well above .300, his numbers are pretty deceiving cuz of his bad slump to end the season. Should be somewhere around 15-20.
He does not watch west coast baseball, dude probably thought Harper was > Trout until the last few years....all the East Coast media pushed that for years...
@@nickvaughn6558 that's not the point... when fletch is good its not because he's hitting home runs, its because he's consistently landing the ball in the outfield grass and bringing in runs, it's an RBI so who cares how hard it was hit. This is always so misunderstood about fletcher and a testament to how people over-value power in baseball today.
@@nickvaughn6558 okay somewhat fair, but Fletcher is good cuz he can get hit and runs and steal bases for power guys behind him in the lineup like Ohtani Trout and Rendon. No doubt that Trout and Rendon going out early really hurt his numbers, else he would have had like 80-90 runs.
Albies and Merrifield were both snubbed like crazy. Albies is the 2nd best in the league right behind Semien, and Merrifield should easily be above rank 10. I’d put Merrifield right above India personally
I love me some Brandon Lowe, though as a Rays fan its hard to see how good Jake Cronenworth is. I'm just imangining pushing Lowe over to 3rd or 1st and having Jake at 2nd with Franco at SS. Thats a top 3 infield if you ask me.
Ranger fan... I was SHOCKED to see a Ranger at #1... and than I remembered we spent 600m this offseason lol. I feel Semien is over-hyped cuz he's new, but I think I'll have to pick him up in fantasy... because I'll be hearing about him all year lol.
I’ve had Semien on my fantasy team every year since 2018, am a DIEHARD Jays fan and even met him last year… this is your guy. I’m so sad Toronto didn’t keep him but let me tell you this guy just keeps to his routine and gets better and better and better and better. 7yr/175M is a steal and he’s a stand up individual to boot (he won the Marvin Miller award and even in one single year his outreach work in Toronto was highly noticed). This is THE MAN. Treat him well, he’ll be worth it
After the “cheating” scandal , people will forever cry and make excuses about this Astros dynasty but Altuve has been here since the very beginning and deserves some respect. Still one of my favorite players , glad he proved the doubters wrong last year along with the rest of the team 🤘🏼
Highly have to agree but to disagree with u marc on fletchers rating and yeah I agree he struggled and had a bad season but he’s still so good what u disagree with u on is that your ranking fletcher at 27 when he just had one bad season give the gug a chance he’s still so good coming from an Angels fan but still love u Marc
I like the list, but I do think guys like Segura, Frazier, and Kemp are really flying under the radar. Not saying they are Top 5 by any means, but I do think Segura should be ahead of Wong.
I love how "accumulator" is used a pejorative, as if accumulation is a bad thing. Let's be honest of you are "accumulating" stats, you are pretty dang good. And as Curt Schilling points out, you don't accumulate stats, you achieve them.
18HR/23 steals and #23 for Jazz Chisholm. Feel like my man should have been a little higher, especially if Kemp was gonna be above him in the rankings. Also, So invested in Ketel Marte's baseball cards 🥴 He cute
And then the fact Fletch went on a 26-game hit streak this season too with his top 5 defense at 2nd. He only struggle down the stretch after his hit streak was over. But he gives you good contact, clutch, 150+ games and gg caliber defense. He's a top 15 second baseman in all of baseball.
Love the videos, quick hits, all good. Just a correction on #20 Brendan Rodgers, his OPS+ at home was 95; 142 ON THE ROAD. No Coors field adjustment unless you think he’s going to hit better at Coors going forward … 🤔
That's fair. But he's here because he's going to play 2B for the Dodgers this year. They already have Pollock and Bellinger for left and center, plus Seager left so they need a guy for 2B.
I don’t understand cronenworth over Ozzie, and Ketel marte at number 2 when he missed like 70 games? Huh? Staying on the field is an important part of being elite.
Again rather than make a list of who I think is the best, I made a ranking based on who I would want to be on my team for next year. Kind of like if it was an open market and money wasn't a factor. Some of this is projecting, but this is for just next year only, not necessarily who I would want long term. 1. Marcus Semien 2. Katel Marte 3. Jake Cronenworth 4. Ozzie Albies 5. Jose Altuve 6. Brandon Lowe 7. Jonathan India 8. Chris Taylor 9. Kiki Hernandez 10. Gleybar Torres 11. Jazz Chisolm 12. Jean Segura 13. Kolten Wong 14. Whit Merrifield 15. Tommy Edman 16. Adam Frazier 17. Jeff McNeil 18. Brendan Rodgers 19. Cavan Biggio 20. Luis Arraez 21. Cesar Hernandez 22. Nick Madrigal 23. David Fletcher 24. Tommy LaStella 25. Tony Kemp 26. Willi Castro 27. Rougned Odor 28. Leury Garcia 29. Andres Gimenez 30. Cole Tucker
I feel like Nolan Gorman will debut for the Cardinals next year and take over the majority of the starts at 2B and Tommy Edman will shift back to his super utility spot.
When you brought La Stella’s triple I immediately remembered that game where the should’ve caught the ball to end the game but he lost it and it was a game tying rbi triple that the giants won that game
I'm totally Geeking Out on these videos! Didn't agree with how low you ranked Justin Turner! Good defense and flat out hits for the Dodgers! Also very clutch and a World Series champion! Probably going to be a Dodgers hall of Famer! METS shouldn't have let him get away.
1. Marcus Semien TEX 2. Brandon Lowe TB 3. Ketel Marte ARI 4. Jose Altuve HOU 5. Jake Cronenworth SD 6. Ozzie Albies ATL 7. Jonathan India CIN 8. Jorge Polanco MIN 9. Jeff McNeil NYM 10. Tony Kemp OAK
1. Marcus Semien 2. Ketel Marte 3. Max Muncy 4. Jose Altuve 5. Trevor Story 6. Ozzie Albies 7. Jake Cronenworth 8. Brandon Lowe 9. Jonathan India 10. Whit Merrifield
Defense and turning the double play matters, as well as range. Which is why Morgan, Alomar and Sandberg are #1-2-3 all time. Semien, Crone-Zone, Albies and Indio BEFORE anyone else and lead then with Lowe, Taylor and Henandez.
Dude was top 5 in defense for his position this season too in the AL and had a 26 game hit streak. Idk why Marc basing this mostly on power when second base hasn't been a huge power production position until recently.
Did you just use at bats as an argument? Wow, he's so good. Look at how many games he can bat leadoff. That doesn't prove any value whatsoever. Those at bats don't mean anything if your hitting is below league average.
I’m expecting that there won’t be any bias if McNeill is ranked so high I expect Bellinger to be at least in the top 5 in center fielders because of his past
L. Garcia as a 2B is ranked about right.... if you wanna rank him as a UTL (which is what he is) He's gotta be much higher. He played all 7 positions last year. And did it all pretty solid
Tommy Edman stop switch hitting and go entirely right-handed? Be careful what you ask for, Marc, he'll end up a .320 BA with a 30/30/30 split. His rookie year was a lot nicer on the slashline at least. Seriously, though, I have no idea why he tries switch. He's a Cedric Mullins follow-up.
I cometely disagree with Cole Tucker at 30. He may play a month there, but once Cruz comes up, Kevin Newman is the 30th best 2Bman in the league, not Tucker.
The diamondbacks need to realize they need to keep Marte at 2nd base so he stays on the field. I know they will trade him which is a bummer but if he stays healthy then they can trade him next year for a haul. The dbacks just can’t figure out baseball. Centerfield is killing his career.
Whitesox are probably looking to upgrade at second base and find an everyday guy. Leury is a super utility player and plays many different positions. Hard to believe he’ll be the everyday 2nd baseman. We’ll see.
@@calebstickler2476 Danny Mendick is a backup infielder at best. Garcia would start at second if season started tomorrow. Maybe the Whitesox flip Kimbrel to Phillies for Segura? After Lockout of course.
cole tucker might be #30, but he pulled vanessa hudgens, that should move him up a couple spots purely based off of that
Can't disagree with that logic
Spittin
Beat me to commenting this lmao.
respectable
He’s won more in life than any other dude on this list
Love how he threw in Max Scherzer striking out Gleyber Torres as one of his highlights😂
Mets bias at its finest
Gleyber isn’t even top 15
thats is a highlight for torres
I have Ozzie in the top 5 but maybe I'm being a biased braves fan. I see alot of haters of him even tho, like you said he is in the elite level class. Also would like to see him hit righty for a full season to see what he is capable of.
This is completely fair!
Ozzie is my 9 lol
he sux
Ozzie is top 5
@@kevin-pu5cf just no
No way fletch is a bottom 5 second baseman. Not only did he play gold glove defense, he had a 26-game hit streak and he was hitting well above .300, his numbers are pretty deceiving cuz of his bad slump to end the season. Should be somewhere around 15-20.
He does not watch west coast baseball, dude probably thought Harper was > Trout until the last few years....all the East Coast media pushed that for years...
He has no power
@@nickvaughn6558 that's not the point... when fletch is good its not because he's hitting home runs, its because he's consistently landing the ball in the outfield grass and bringing in runs, it's an RBI so who cares how hard it was hit. This is always so misunderstood about fletcher and a testament to how people over-value power in baseball today.
Marc ALWAYS looks to slugging and power over high BA...Fletcher is a throwback
@@nickvaughn6558 okay somewhat fair, but Fletcher is good cuz he can get hit and runs and steal bases for power guys behind him in the lineup like Ohtani Trout and Rendon. No doubt that Trout and Rendon going out early really hurt his numbers, else he would have had like 80-90 runs.
"...And that's why Jeff McNeil is the greatest second baseman of all time"
Omg sthu
@@swishy_bluez why so mad?
It’s not funny anymore
Albies and Merrifield were both snubbed like crazy. Albies is the 2nd best in the league right behind Semien, and Merrifield should easily be above rank 10. I’d put Merrifield right above India personally
exactly.
Definitely not
Definitely wrong cant forget lowe hes arguably the best easily second i would say albies should be around 6 but merifield was snubbed thats true
I love me some Brandon Lowe, though as a Rays fan its hard to see how good Jake Cronenworth is. I'm just imangining pushing Lowe over to 3rd or 1st and having Jake at 2nd with Franco at SS. Thats a top 3 infield if you ask me.
Same. Especially since the only player we still have from that trade is Edwards
Or move Cronenworth to 1st or 3rd
I mean, Lowe and Franco is already probably the best middle infield in baseball, if not it’s Top 3
@@lukabearry1826 nando croney probably takes it but it’s close
Semien and Seager and swanson and Albies are probably better tbh
Ozzie Albies should be above Cronenworth for sure.
I think based on longevity Altuve should be 3 and Marte should be 4, but based on projection this is a fair list
DAVID FLETCHER DESERVES HIGHER
Tony Kemp, Tommy Edman and La Stella need to be higher, other than that another really solid list
Although im a cardinal, these are all platoons
I agree especially Kemp in my opinion
@@calbrit9978 over who?
Ranger fan... I was SHOCKED to see a Ranger at #1... and than I remembered we spent 600m this offseason lol. I feel Semien is over-hyped cuz he's new, but I think I'll have to pick him up in fantasy... because I'll be hearing about him all year lol.
I’ve had Semien on my fantasy team every year since 2018, am a DIEHARD Jays fan and even met him last year… this is your guy. I’m so sad Toronto didn’t keep him but let me tell you this guy just keeps to his routine and gets better and better and better and better. 7yr/175M is a steal and he’s a stand up individual to boot (he won the Marvin Miller award and even in one single year his outreach work in Toronto was highly noticed). This is THE MAN. Treat him well, he’ll be worth it
The hype is well-deserved for Semien. Dude is a stud. Hit at an MVP level, steals bases, and won the GG. Can't ask for more out of a guy.
@@ChardeeMacDennis96 question: what does you meeting him have anything to do with this
@@reapergu6316 he was tryna flex
After the “cheating” scandal , people will forever cry and make excuses about this Astros dynasty but Altuve has been here since the very beginning and deserves some respect. Still one of my favorite players , glad he proved the doubters wrong last year along with the rest of the team 🤘🏼
I love how Mark says “sample sizes are really important” while talking about #29 but then proceeds to rank Wander Franco #5
6: Marte 5: Albies 4: Lowe 3: Cronenworth 2: Altve 1: Marcus
Yup
Agree
Altuve & Cronenworth are definitely not better than Lowe. It's not even close.
@@Shane3125 cronenworth is more valuable than Brandon lowe overall
altuve definitely is
Everything else is great, Marc, but these videos are what do it for me. I just binge these videos from time to time.
So far I'm liking these rankings a lot more than I like those top 20s that have been on Twitter.
How does Adam Frazier go down when he had the best year of his career
cuz other people were better it’s that simple
dude doesnt barrel up anything 😂😂
Other people were better, doesn’t barrel the ball, his stint with SD was atrocious
Because the best season of his career wasn’t even that good lol
I can live with Cronenworth at #5, but the league needs to give him a gold glove, he's that good defensively
Highly have to agree but to disagree with u marc on fletchers rating and yeah I agree he struggled and had a bad season but he’s still so good what u disagree with u on is that your ranking fletcher at 27 when he just had one bad season give the gug a chance he’s still so good coming from an Angels fan but still love u Marc
I like the list, but I do think guys like Segura, Frazier, and Kemp are really flying under the radar. Not saying they are Top 5 by any means, but I do think Segura should be ahead of Wong.
I love how "accumulator" is used a pejorative, as if accumulation is a bad thing. Let's be honest of you are "accumulating" stats, you are pretty dang good. And as Curt Schilling points out, you don't accumulate stats, you achieve them.
I love this series! Keep up the great work!
18HR/23 steals and #23 for Jazz Chisholm. Feel like my man should have been a little higher, especially if Kemp was gonna be above him in the rankings.
Also,
So invested in Ketel Marte's baseball cards 🥴 He cute
He strikes out a lot and doesn't walk much.
Fletcher is top 15. Power is not everything for a player and he’s usually a 300 hitter. Kinda clueless, if he was a met he would be top 5
And then the fact Fletch went on a 26-game hit streak this season too with his top 5 defense at 2nd. He only struggle down the stretch after his hit streak was over. But he gives you good contact, clutch, 150+ games and gg caliber defense. He's a top 15 second baseman in all of baseball.
He does not hit the ball hard whatsoever. He hits singles. He's a below league average hitter.
Lots of grit too
Let’s go Marc thanks for working so hard on these keep up the work
Brandon Lowe is an MVP candidate if he cuts down on strikeouts
Whit Merrifield can pretty much plays every position very well he is definitely my favorite major league baseball player.
as a cardinals fan thank you for not putting edman in the top hald
I think Edman could improve a lot by getting his walk rate up. Would definitely help him in his role as the Cardinals leadoff guy.
Whit Merrifield at 12 seems low to me. I’d take him on my team over Keke
Your taking him over the guy who hit around .450 in the postseason. Just saying
I’d take whit over chris Taylor on a team
Love the videos, quick hits, all good. Just a correction on #20 Brendan Rodgers, his OPS+ at home was 95; 142 ON THE ROAD. No Coors field adjustment unless you think he’s going to hit better at Coors going forward … 🤔
Maybe a little low on Adam Frazier as well, you dropped him after a career year. I like the ranking of Tommy Edman a lot.
Don’t even think about snubbing TA for the 4th year in a row Mark.
Personally I view Chris Taylor more as a left fielder or center fielder. He’s obviously utility but if I had to pick one id pitch outfield.
That's fair. But he's here because he's going to play 2B for the Dodgers this year. They already have Pollock and Bellinger for left and center, plus Seager left so they need a guy for 2B.
Biggest Jump: Marcus Semien (11 Spots)
Biggest Drop: Willi Castro (13 Spots)
I don’t understand cronenworth over Ozzie, and Ketel marte at number 2 when he missed like 70 games? Huh? Staying on the field is an important part of being elite.
I'm expecting a huge bounce back from Biggio this Season.
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I like this list. Keep up the good work!
Your editor is the GOAT for that Torres K LMFAO
Jorge Polanco easily cracks my top 8
Jonathan Schoop should be considered the Tigers 2B, but if it has to be Willi, #29 is understandable.
Again rather than make a list of who I think is the best, I made a ranking based on who I would want to be on my team for next year. Kind of like if it was an open market and money wasn't a factor. Some of this is projecting, but this is for just next year only, not necessarily who I would want long term.
1. Marcus Semien
2. Katel Marte
3. Jake Cronenworth
4. Ozzie Albies
5. Jose Altuve
6. Brandon Lowe
7. Jonathan India
8. Chris Taylor
9. Kiki Hernandez
10. Gleybar Torres
11. Jazz Chisolm
12. Jean Segura
13. Kolten Wong
14. Whit Merrifield
15. Tommy Edman
16. Adam Frazier
17. Jeff McNeil
18. Brendan Rodgers
19. Cavan Biggio
20. Luis Arraez
21. Cesar Hernandez
22. Nick Madrigal
23. David Fletcher
24. Tommy LaStella
25. Tony Kemp
26. Willi Castro
27. Rougned Odor
28. Leury Garcia
29. Andres Gimenez
30. Cole Tucker
David fletcher is the angels' new andrelton simmons
Coming from a Yankees fan you are my favorite MLB TH-camr and Jomboy is my fav Yankees Avenue is my fav Yankee TH-camr
I feel like Nolan Gorman will debut for the Cardinals next year and take over the majority of the starts at 2B and Tommy Edman will shift back to his super utility spot.
1 Jose Altuve
2 Marcus Siemen
3 Ozzie Albbies
4 Brandon lowe
When you brought La Stella’s triple I immediately remembered that game where the should’ve caught the ball to end the game but he lost it and it was a game tying rbi triple that the giants won that game
Another banger by giraffe neck
I’m a new baseball fan but from what I’ve seen ozzie should be top 5, he has so much value
I'm totally Geeking Out on these videos! Didn't agree with how low you ranked Justin Turner! Good defense and flat out hits for the Dodgers! Also very clutch and a World Series champion! Probably going to be a Dodgers hall of Famer! METS shouldn't have let him get away.
1. Marcus Semien TEX
2. Brandon Lowe TB
3. Ketel Marte ARI
4. Jose Altuve HOU
5. Jake Cronenworth SD
6. Ozzie Albies ATL
7. Jonathan India CIN
8. Jorge Polanco MIN
9. Jeff McNeil NYM
10. Tony Kemp OAK
Marc’s 1-3 2nd baseman: been inconsistent for the past 3 years
Altuve: had mvp numbers since 2015,
Marc stop hating
There is no way you put edman under gleyber
How the hell did Marte get ranked second among all second baseman’s?
Tucker may be the worst second baseman, but he’s got the hottest girlfriend
Great list. Love jose altuve. Hot take: astros sign kenley jansen to replace Kendall Graveman
1. Marcus Semien
2. Ketel Marte
3. Max Muncy
4. Jose Altuve
5. Trevor Story
6. Ozzie Albies
7. Jake Cronenworth
8. Brandon Lowe
9. Jonathan India
10. Whit Merrifield
Defense and turning the double play matters, as well as range. Which is why Morgan, Alomar and Sandberg are #1-2-3 all time. Semien, Crone-Zone, Albies and Indio BEFORE anyone else and lead then with Lowe, Taylor and Henandez.
Ozzie Albies is #2 in my rankings
Imo Fletcher should be higher, he had more hits this season than Albies and he was 21st in the majors for hits
He's 7th in the majors for at bats
Dude was top 5 in defense for his position this season too in the AL and had a 26 game hit streak. Idk why Marc basing this mostly on power when second base hasn't been a huge power production position until recently.
Did you just use at bats as an argument? Wow, he's so good. Look at how many games he can bat leadoff. That doesn't prove any value whatsoever. Those at bats don't mean anything if your hitting is below league average.
I love his grit
Rays fans wish B Lowe got more national love, but mostly we're just glad he's ours.
Biggio back at his comfortable postion and healthy is going to light it up.
I wish the diamondbacks would’ve kept ketel at 2b instead of putting him in the OF, I’m happy that they are finally letting him play 2b though
Let’s go my man Kiké, he was a god in the postseason 💪💪
I’m expecting that there won’t be any bias if McNeill is ranked so high I expect Bellinger to be at least in the top 5 in center fielders because of his past
This series cures my depression
DJ Lemahui is by far the best second baseman in baseball. That's fax
No
not anymore
No
no
How are we ranking Ketel Marte at 2B when he played 20 games there vs 71 in CF?
Marc, when you say accumulator what do you mean?
You know the white soxs got rid of nick madrigal and that makes me sad 😢
I think Gleyber is going to do a lot better in 2022. He'll be back at second base, and he was playing well at the end of the year.
Yeah, you have way more faith in him than I ever will.
@@rangers94ism I mean, he also played well at the end of the year back at second base.
Atlanta definitely lowballed Ozzie in that contract sheesh
Fletch is top 15! You gotta be joking right
Cole Tucker is not the starting second baseman for the Pirates lol. We’re not that bad
the projections have him there according to fangraphs, kinda tough with pirates
Fletchgod 😬😬 that hurt my soul
thats why Jeff McNeil will lead the new york mets to the world series and that’s why he’s the best second basemen in the league
L. Garcia as a 2B is ranked about right.... if you wanna rank him as a UTL (which is what he is) He's gotta be much higher. He played all 7 positions last year. And did it all pretty solid
Right, but these rankings are position based, so he's out of luck there.
Tommy Edman stop switch hitting and go entirely right-handed? Be careful what you ask for, Marc, he'll end up a .320 BA with a 30/30/30 split. His rookie year was a lot nicer on the slashline at least.
Seriously, though, I have no idea why he tries switch. He's a Cedric Mullins follow-up.
Love the rankings
Back at it again, boys.
David fletcher should be higher
My fantasy draft was pretty bad, grabbing Trout and Bellinger very early, but at least I got Semien
I am a Blue Jays fan. Seeing Marcus Semien go to the Rangers HURT
When he doesn’t talk about flech gods hit streak
As a Sox fan if Leury is our starting 2B I will be disappointed. He’s a good utility player that can play anywhere but he can’t be a everyday starter.
I cometely disagree with Cole Tucker at 30. He may play a month there, but once Cruz comes up, Kevin Newman is the 30th best 2Bman in the league, not Tucker.
You're sleeping on Rodgers. He really started to turn it on at the end of the year.
The disrespect to fletchgod....
The diamondbacks need to realize they need to keep Marte at 2nd base so he stays on the field. I know they will trade him which is a bummer but if he stays healthy then they can trade him next year for a haul. The dbacks just can’t figure out baseball. Centerfield is killing his career.
Altuve has to be #1 right?
Edit: wow altuve #4 also Marcus semien is gonna become an Astros killer 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Whitesox are probably looking to upgrade at second base and find an everyday guy. Leury is a super utility player and plays many different positions. Hard to believe he’ll be the everyday 2nd baseman. We’ll see.
Yeah I'd think Danny Mendick would be the starter if the season started today
@@calebstickler2476 Danny Mendick is a backup infielder at best. Garcia would start at second if season started tomorrow. Maybe the Whitesox flip Kimbrel to Phillies for Segura? After Lockout of course.
That's why it made me sad about Madrigal. We had a career 300 hitter at 2nd already and gave him up for a set up man. Terrible move
Hello Marc, love yor vids
Fletcher at 27 is just a reminder you do not watch west coast teams....
bet you thought Harper was > Trout until 2017 or so....
Yeah fletcher top 1
Harper is better now but I agree fletcher is very gritty
Cronenworth over albies ? Better stats crone
So McNeil at 2B, Cano DH then?
You have criminally underrated whit merrifield
as a rangers fan boy am i excited to watch this one
ODOR IS NOW IN BALTIMORE!?!?!?!?!? Why did I not know this
Albies below Cronenworth is laughable.