The Final Destruction of Uma | Step 384
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I remember how great she look after the original refit and later renovations. I've been with you guys since the beginning. I am so glad you opted to bring Uma up to snuff rather than just moving on. She'll be a brand nUma. Bad pun, I know.
*gasp* that pun was beautiful. nUUUUUma
It sounds like she will be better than she ever was intended to be.
Watched you do the toe rail and stanchions, the motor and now to empty her interior is such a huge undertaking. Best sailing/refurb channel.
@@MrRoyum will some parts of this boat be better than something new? Something that makes it sail better or more practical inside it? I know sometimes when you rip something apart you can reconstruct it with better innards.
The story goes that a sailor was in his car and he was approched at a traffic light by a call girl. She told the sailor "I'll do whatever you want for $100 bucks" The sailor responded "do you grind fiberglass?".
"Failing that; how much to let me win an argument?"
I have a bilge that needs cleaning.
I'm currently building a new rudder , does that count as well ?
Amazed. You sail, you engineer and you build. In Awe !
paint my house, an original Henny Youngman one liner
Honestly I enjoy the boat projects more than the sailing ha ha. Keep up the good work!
Kika, I sincerely hope your family is all doing well in Haiti, it is terrible what is going on there right now. I’m praying for you. Another great episode, exciting times for Uma
My grandmother and I watch No Bullshit Just Sailing and I was surprised to see you guys in that video together for that Italy race! So cool!!
Someone else comments that an entirely new boat costs less time, effort, and money than rebuilding one. That's likely not true. Also, I would argue that a purchasing process is not as exciting on video as what is being done here. And, the being cheaper may depend on the resale value of the old boat. I guess what is happening here is (a) recycling, and (b) creating future resale value. Nice video!
Plus there is a certain emotional attachment to a good old boat. My own sailboat is just shy of 51 years old (manufactured May 1973) and I have no plans of trading her in or otherwise getting rid of her. My buddy and I have upgraded her insanely, and lovingly maintained her over the past 20 years that we have been her caretakers. But that's what you do.
And they will know their boats inside out, much safer cruising that way.
An entirely new built ship would likely be cheaper than a complete rebuild like this, unless you can do a significant part of the work yourself.
Though the cost of scrapping the old one may take up quite a bit of that difference (remember, the reason for the complete rebuild is that Uma is so far gone, selling her wouldn't work).
The channels that have had new boats built have taken over two years to build. As in the manufacture took two years to manufacture the boat. Those who are building brand-new boats are way over 2 years old. Brand new boats run from about a million to several million to endless millions depending on the yacht you are buying. Now the only question is when they do sale Uma will they get all of their rebuild money out of her? Well, boats are not investments, and if they were not sailing around the world in her, they would have housing expenses too, so it is hard to say.
Regardless of whether it's cheaper or cheaper after resale of the existing boat, the problem with a new boat is that it's still going to need mods. That might be fairly minimal or it could be a partial gutting.
The only reason I could see D&K buying a new boat would be to increase the size of their home. Anything short of that and I don't think they'd be interested in new unless they were forced to do so.
I have more trust in a refit than a new sailboat. Well done.
Congratulations on the work you are doing with Uma, you guys are so dedicated to this boat, and I am sure with your standards and talents this boat will be amazing when it is finished. My son did this to an older house and made it amazing by doing almost all of the work himself. He learned many skills in the process and the same will be for both of you. Not only will you be excellent sailors but you will know everything there is to know about Uma and how to repair or keep up anything and everything inside this boat. I am excited to see your progress in the weeks ahead.
The evolution of Uma!! Can't wait to see your design come to life!
You have to wait one year minimum to see this
Freakin amazing! My family had Pearsons when I was a kid so I’m very familiar with the boats and build. So cool to see what you’re doing and how it will greatly improve Uma! Rock on!!!
I appreciate you two. Thanks for sharing your life with us couch dwellers. ❤
I’ve been watching you guys for a while and love the architectural content. Respect for doing a rebuild rather than buying new!
I was at the P@lm Beach boat show, a 17’8” basic open fisherman was $45,000.00
Seriously you are two of the most impressive people i know of. The way you live life is beyond inspiring. I live in the mountains and climb and mtn bike and ski and all the outdoor sports. i'm currently searching for the classic boat ( Hinkeley, Vindo, etc) so i can add adventuring by sea. Most say, don't buy a classic because of the work.....i say, that's a part of the adventure. Thank you both and keep it up.
Getting everything lined up with a common reference is so satisfying and makes everything better. Even though everything else is curved and the whole boat will be moving, good measurements will cancel out all the errors as much as possible. Keep up the good work.
A first real redesign and build from a 50 yr old shell. An opportunity to upgrade, make spaces more suitable to your personal choices. Prime structural goals: stiffen Üma, reduce squeaking, minimize condensation, create better water tight areas, add more supporting bulkheads. Safely and comfortably allow Ûma to handle heavy sea state and high wind speeds.
Let the adventure begin.
Man, I love what you're doing. I feel like I'm kinda right there with you. I'm doing my own electric conversion right now, and though it's a smaller project than all of this, I seem to be making my transition from demolition to construction at the same time as you.
I got hooked watching you guys rebuild Uma the first time around in Florida so I'm loving the boat work videos again. I've always thought you guys would make excellent naval architects and it's great to hear you guys are getting mentored and digging into all the structural considerations with the help of experts. You guys are so talented and I'm so excited to see all the work as it unfolds. And it's great you guys aren't having to do all the fiberglass by yourselves, avoid the itch as much as you can! Nobody who's done fiberglass will blame you!
Persistence !! ... congrats on sticking with this project ...
Not sure if it’s too late, but if you can acetone the sharpie marker off and use pencil. The sharpie will bleed through 8,000 coats of gel coat or paint… Been there before.
It's likely too late for this comment, but consider making the forward bulkhead and compartment water-tight. While it's not the most vulnerable part of the boat, it is the part most likely to run into a mostly submerged shipping container at night. I did hear you mention you're going to make the aft bulkhead water-tight. One more consideration along these lines: Place fire-safe, closed-cell foam in the non-used spaces. In case they ever do fill up with water, the closed-cell foam will displace most of the water, greatly increasing buoyance of the compartment.
"It's only going to flood a hundred liters or so into this part of the boat because our water line is here..." It's there with no flooding. If you start flooding, your boat will sink much lower and your waterline will rise much higher.
Good thing you two are artsy architects! You can draw a wiggly line between two other lines without coloring outside the lines! No way I could pull that off!
"My heart is beating fast." So, leave! It'll slow down considerably!
Gentlemen, we can rebuild her. We have the the technology. We can make her better than before. Better, stronger, faster.
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So you are saying it will cost $6M?
@@nodogrunner 😉
@@nodogrunnerno, apparently "the parts were smaller" for Jamie Sommers. Uma is a her, after all.
I love watching you channel, I am glad you are working on her instead of buying. Brand new one
Jesus, Dan,
That’s the biggest refit I’ve ever heard of.
Process, for me that’s what makes your channel so interesting and I’m guessing the reason for your success.
I really admire what you’re doing here and your engineering/architectural skills are always top notch.
Some have suggested simply buying a newer boat, but that would make your channel about just another cruising couple. Blah.
Thank you for the great content!
The editing of this video is impressive… the first 5mn are insane. You guys put a lot of effort in invisible “details” that we , the audience , can only feel. Dan Kika you are putting as much effort in sharing as in doing …. I am so honoured to be following you for so many years. Bravo.
"Glorified piece of furniture" : Reminds me of someone who once said that a composting toilet is a glorified bucket 😂
Haha!!! But they really are. $1000 for a bucket!?! is crazy.
Now, as you are basically start from scratch and strive for electrical independence, you could consider integrating piezo crystals. One huge advantage of a boat is, that there is always pressure at certain points, basically creating free energy when sailing. Especially as they don´t rely on the sun. A 1cm^3 of quartz with 2KN of correctly appied force can produce a voltage of 12500 volts. So with clever planning and integration it could work beautifully for Uma. Just consider safe positioning for the quartzes. By the way the same goes for magnetic fields. Movement always creates energy and the oceans create movement for free, so there are many possibilities to use that momentum to generate energy, even for lightbulbs.
I really like the bulkhead completely separating the sternpost. It should be obligatory. Also good to be able to seal the cockpit lockers from the interior, I can't tell if that is included in your plan. Wise to delegate the demolitiona and fibreglassing, you should keep records confirming what they have done. All this will make Uma a brilliant boat. One thing abou the for and aft trim, it influences the handling of the boat as weight after, will result in weather helm as the mass will be after of the designed centre of lateral resistance. So check the drawings and if necessary move the weight around or get some 25kg lead pigs. With the boat trim fore and aft, the rake of the mast can be adjsuted to fine tune the setup. Talk to someone knowledgeable. Essentially the hull is designed to perform at a particular trim. Understand it and know how to manage it to help it work for you.
That's only if it was designed well in the first place. We've adjusted and trimmed our boat for the last 10 years and we know where we like her. We're not "moving the waterline" we're just leveling the interior to where we like the exterior waterline.
I'm glad to see so much support, here, for new boat construction. I hope some designers and builders pay attention to the details Kika and Dan put into their rebuild of Uma. As serious sailors and live-aboards, the insight they are sharing through this process COULD inform better boat design and construction. Kika and Dan, thank you for sharing your lessons learned, the engineering you have contracted, and your way, a way, of rebuilding sea kindly Uma.
The more you dismantled Uma the more amazed I am that she survived the arctic seas!!!!
I love that you’re saving the boat and giving it a new life.
You are the very first sailing yt video that I watched..I love that you work so well together.
I’ve been watching you from the first video and When you crossed the Atlantic. I was on my phone daily to see if you two where ok. I’m living through you two on my dream to sail. Thank you!!! I’m going to be 63 this year an can’t wait to see YUMA sail again!! And I’m sure she will look beautiful in side. Thank you for all the adventures!!
You also. Last of the boomers.
Never to late to start. Bought my first keel boat last September. I'm 68.
*Uma.
Sooo excited for your completion. Uma will rock once again.❤
Yay! So glad that y’all are getting back to the boat refurbish!
Looks like a great refit! Uma looks so nice now she's lost her dimples! She's going to be great when she's done!
You’re doing it exactly right ime .
And way easier to dismantle than a boat full of beautiful glued joinery and varnished, matched veneers!
I might want to incorporate an offset stainless steel so called ‘ring frame’ discretely in way of the main bulkhead to handle the rigs lateral, shroud and mast compression but you’re
probably on that already 😊.
Lovely yard environment , you seem to have landed amid the good guys in a beautiful spot 👍👍
Anyone should appreciate the great knowledge and patience both of you have achieved through the years. I have watched since the first video. As a multiple boat owner in the past, and having some sailing experience, I can't help but wonder about the wisdom of purchasing another far newer craft. Then go from there. Like Atticus! Such a wise decision they made.
Though your refit videos are informative... the multitude of them you have now made, I realize that they are getting easier to skip over in the hopes you will quickly get back to sailing your own boat. A better one. Which is what people want to watch in the first place. Good luck though.
It will be great to be able to finally start putting things together again. Kika, I am thinking about your family back home, and hoping they are ok.
Omgoodness, my darlings , I'm soooo glad that Uma's being getting a second chance of life, having faithfully transported you through 'thick and thin'!
I'm so pleased/proud that you haven't given up on her!
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The build is a lifestyle. sailors that live and breath boats don’t go get another job to save up and buy a new one… they build their own!
Super cool, Finally you get started❤❤❤
I remember the beginning of you guys finding uma and what it took to get her seaworthy.. glad it’s a refit and not a replace
I think it's a great story, the both of you taking an old boat and completely giving her a second (probably more like third) lease on life. Fantastic. Much more interesting then just going out and buying a million dollar cat like a lot of your fellow you tubers are doing these days. Cheers
Nothing scares me more than the words, "they're professionals"
Wonderful to see you get to ground zero again. Oh the possibilities !
Sound thinking regarding the placement of bulkheads. I just love these technical episodes, even though I feel like I have to go watch the Norwegian coast episodes again.
🇨🇦 hello Kikka - hoping all is well with your family & friends in Haiti 😔🙁
I get Kika's anxiety (14:50), mainly because -- and I hate to say this -- Italians are not known for doing quality work. As they say, "Italians can't build a decent car for less than a quarter million bucks." I'm not saying that's true, but I worry....
You two are such an awesome team!😊
Good to see you guys finally in the building phase
Très professionnel ! Have the FRP team commented on the quality of your prep/marking work? Are you planning to insulate the hull above WL?
Kika: I hope that your family and friends in Haiti are doing OK. I know that reading the reports from there must be hard on you!
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In the mid 90s I helped a friend completely gut and rebuild an 80s era 40 foot grand prix racing sloop. It had a 3x 6 cockpit well for the crew's feet, a flush deck and stick steering. We chain sawed out the cockpit and the transom and opened a hole about 8 by 12, completely stripped out the interior as you did. We went right down to an aluminum frame in the sole that held the keel, the mast and the stays. The fiber glassed the hell out of the aluminum frame. Then we fabbed our own 4x8 carbon fiber foam core panels and used them to do the bulk heads and fab architectural parts. To make the carbon fiber panels we built an absolutely level strooong table and made a vacuum bag. We laid down sheets of carbon fiber, applied resin between sheets, laid in the foam core, more carbon fiber, then put the vacuum bag on top and sucked the air out. It was an amazing process. We must have built 100 panels. I became quite skilled at making parts by slitting panel sections to bend them into shapes and fiberglass them together. Some sailing magazine covered the project, not sure which one. Sadly, I never got to sail the final product.
This is insane, instead of getting a new or better used boat. Your resurrecting another boat entirely, there must be a spirit on that boat that thrives to survive to the bitter end. Wow
You guys are great. You have bitten off one hell of a job. But the knowledge you are gaining will be amazing. Been enjoying your Channel from when you guys crossed the Atlantic. 😊
Great! A milestone in the wonderful project.
I haven't watched any of your vids in a while, have to say this is a huge shock. You must really love that boat, I would just get a different one. Or build a new one from scratch, you guys have the skills I think.
For a minute there I thought you were scuttling the boat and starting over!
It's okay to hire professionals to do what you don't like to do or want to do.
it's always sad to see Uma looking this empty, but I'm looking forward to how she'll look!!
I’m looking forward to seeing how you run conduits and wiring. Sonar, anchor cam, thermal camera, dolphin cam, dolphin speaker for announcing “Uma” so the dolphins know who you are, submersible bottom scrubber robot, stereo, deck and dock lighting, cell antenna, headphones, cheese drawer. That kind of thing.
But watching fiberglassing is also very interesting.
This is Uma. For all that, you need Mad's Athena over on Sail Life 🤣🤣
Good luck with your total boat rebuild.
What a great build! Nice work
Your current mess will soon be your beautiful sailing home again. May God bless you both!
I see, for uma, the journey is also the boat’s interior. For some it’s only the travel with a margarita in hand, for uma it’s customizing the space too. As a painter, the canvas is easily modified depending on the gesso application, you just need to know what gesso is, the why and the how. I renovated my apartment, from “sistering” the floor joists to the finish with ceiling moulding trim. It’s a journey not for the feint of heart or those lacking some skills. But far more appreciated once done well. You know what’s underneath the paint.
A real life ship of Theseus. Not to the extent of Tally-Ho, but getting there, especially when you consider all the work you did when you got the boat and in the Caribbean.
I think it’s time for Dan and Kika to go into boat design and boat building from new. I’d trust their boat!
It seems like you are building an entirely new boat inside the gelcoat skeleton of the old boat. Uma is going to be a proper ship of Theseus after you are done!
Great episode, thanks for sharing 👍
Life is a continually evolving project .
When she’s all done I am really looking forward to a video about the full cost breakdown. I feel like all the people saying to buy a new boat, don’t understand how expensive they are. Or the ones suggesting buying a nicer used boat, are vastly underestimating the time and money needed for a refit to meet your needs. At the end of this I’m betting you’ll still be debt free, sailing around on a boat that exactly fits your needs, that you could sell for twice what you have in her. Whereas if you bought a new boat you’d be sailing around on a depreciating asset, while you pay her off for many years to come.
New boat = loan (most likely)
Loan = HUGE insurance $$
Loan = Debt
New does NOT mean better, all the time.
In this case it absolutely does.
@@Woobieeee YOU are free to buy one then, and go sail away, go sail away, go sail away w/o me
@@paulas_lens capitalizing random words makes you look stupid.
You forget there waist of time.... TIME you don't get back. Time cost $$$$$
When we took apart our Catalina 30, it was floating high above its factory water line, and we took it out for a sail (we still had all the bulkheads) and we got it up to 8 steady knots (flat water.. no surfing) in 20 knots of wind 😅. I looked at the polar chart for it a few days ago by chance, and the top theoretical speed is something like 6-7 knots. Just saying, you may see a higher speed with a lighter boat!
When people talk of the cyberpunk future it's usually not in a good way. Watching two personable hard working strangers redesign their boat with CAD and calibrated with lasers from a handheld device from anywhere in the world at any time is such a wild perk of the future. What a wild time to be alive.
(also thank you for that hard work and putting the time into producing these great videos)
I look back to the time you seemed to be deciding whether to rebuild Uma or move on to a different boat. I had some sense of the difficulty you would be facing with rebuilding, far afield and homeless, as I am sure you did as well. I thought few couples have the strength of character and determination to weather this level of voluntary hardship, and that it might be too much. Apparently, you are among the few, rough and tough, and made of stern stuff.
great video
Dan you should consider selling the plans so that others with this boat can make these mods
The grinding montage had me rolling 😂
Your level of attention to each detail is unsurpassed. What a team. From the ground up, learning every aspect of this type of boat building and using all your combined knowledge to create the uber Uma while documenting and sharing all the details with us keeps me thrilled to see the next step. Bravo !
Greetings from Vancouver! It's so cool watching Uma's transformation into an ocean cruising vessel. As if she hasn't already cross oceans. Mind if I ask you what software or iPad app you used to design Uma's interior?
Remember your waterline will be higher when a comparment is flooded. So the bulkheads must be taller than the normal waterline.
Depends how much volume is in the compartment ;). We'll explain the concept a lot more when we start glassing everything back in.
Using a mallet as a wedge….pro move.😂
Best wishes for the project.
The difference between a pro and an amateur, is an amateur goes out and buys or order the right tool, waits for it to arrive, then does the job. The pro just gets the job done.
@@SailingUma
Not criticising, I’ve been there and done that that.
So, hopefully, you don't change course and end up with one of these boring catamarans (like Vagabonds, Ruby Rose or Delos - the last one was the most disappointing).
exactly 👍
A really amazing rebuilding! But Im too lazy for all that, so I I would just buy a Hallberg-Rassy or some boat as stout, and call it a day.
Knowing what you know now about her hull, do you ever have cringe moments reminiscing about the sometimes rough waters of your Atlantic crossing or having her in the Arctic Circle?
It really. We’ve sort of known about these issues from the very beginning. We sailed very conservatively and never pushed her too hard.
@@SailingUma Thank you for the reply.
I hate to see the final 'destruction' of Uma. But Uma 5.0 is gonna finally get the boat together the way it should have been in the first place i guess. Anyway, looking good
A little soon, but I'm looking forward to the Shake Down.
Wow... just read through some of the comments... i dont get all the anger... it aint your life or your boat...
Sit back and enjoy the show...
Super smart! You guys continue to impress with your growing knowledge and teamwork abilities. This is one of the more interesting aspects of sailing channels that we get to watch.
Dan and Kika hi from Calgary. It is so totally impressive to see boat owners taking on a project of this scope doing it CORRECTLY. You have thought it through, set up the site ie with proper material, tool storage and workshop space etc. All the time you have invested upfront will result in one helluva boat. Congrats for choosing to do it properly.
Very cool and engaging video!
In construction we call those lines control lines.
Amazing progress guys, and great to see that watertight front bulkhead to bring up to modern standards. I was curious what the estimation is on the displacement budget between the new glass, stringers, bulkheads and new furniture. Is the final product going to be a mild diet compared to factory condition, or are you aiming to net this all out to zero? cheers ⛵
I haven’t been keeping up with your journey over the last few months (work & life leaving me no time; sorry!) so I’m kinda wondering what happened?!! The last time I checked in, you discovered that Uma had creases in her hull… I’m going to spend tonight going back over your last few months of videos, but I hope all is well with you both and that the boat repairs are going well! ❤️
The “professional’s” are using a mallet handle as a wedge.
Hi Dan & Kika, I am looking to do a significant refit - major osmosis issue and new electrics required. Wondering if you would recommend your current yard? What was your criteria that made you choose valdettaro?
YES... finally and I have to tell you both - having been though this the end result is going to be AMAZING and you are going to fall in love with your boat .. all over again..
Several years ago we sailed a 1975 Pearson 30 on Lake Erie. The previous owner had raced the boat with a lot of success. He had also added ribs to the hull, I suppose to stiffen the hull. I don’t think he was as methodical as you and Kika, but they were there. I found them when doing the survey because the hull was not fair, but rather wavy in the vicinity of the new ribs. I was told they could fair the hull on the outside, but we chose not to do so, because we were cruisers and not racers. Still, it was a really fast boat! My point is to pay attention to the design dimensions and hull fairness. I suspect by adding glass to the inside before the ribs, you will be OK, but i wanted to tell you our experience, and hope you don’t get the same waviness with the reconstruction.
I don't know that anyone should trust a brand new boat, But I personally will trust the new "UMA" more than anything that came off a production line.
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