Historical Accuracy of Fishing in Red Dead Online
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A topic close to my heart! Today I'm taking a look at the historical accuracy of fishing in RDO. Special thanks to John Stephenson over at Thomas Turner Fishing Antiques for the research assistance! For this week's topic I've dug into American and British newspaper archives from the 1800s, as well as the 1898 Sears & Roebucks catalog, government documents and a variety of vintage books- in particular, 'Book of the Black Bass' by James Henshel.
Topics include: Historical fishing rod materials; Historical accuracy of collapsible rods; Cost of rod, reel, and rigged line; Accuracy of lures; Cost of lures; Analysis of historical fish prices compared to RDO; Casting animation oversights; Reel oversights; Reflection on RDO's fishing experience.
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I discovered this guy like 2 months ago and holy shit this guy needs all the subs he’s amazing
Awesome compliment, Jorge. Truly appreciate that, man!
No problem dude! Keep that content coming
yes he sure does
@@jorgemcclure624 I totally agree such an underrated youtuber
I find fishing in game quite relaxing, except whenever anybody rides by which is sadly often.
Why?
@@mikkeljuliusnormannjensenn3386 if their fishing ends like mine its either get shot in the back of the head, pushed into the river or my personal favourite waiting until youve caught a big fish then shooting you and stealing it.
@@jellybabi7600 The latter.
when i see someone fishing and im playing alone i start fishing with him
I spent like first month of this game fishing lol
0:56 I didn’t know those players using dynamite in RDR2 online to fish were historically accurate 😂 that’s news to me
Just some good ol country dynamite fishing
He would be a dope history teacher
He is a history teacher
I love fishing in the game. Growing up I did a lot of fishing with my dad and uncles. Mostly striped bass and trout.✌💚😎
This answered questions of mine that I didn’t know anyone else was asking! Particularly about the orientation of the reels. Thanks heaps!
Glad I could help! Figured I wasn't the only one thinking about such things!
"...historically inaccurate, which to me is even worse." 😄 I feel it!! ✌🏼
As much as I have enjoyed this game over time, Rock* basically focused on the PvP and visuals side of the game for entertainment purposes. But yes, if they would have taken the time and did as much research as you and other American/Intercontinental historians have done and implemented those historically accurate facts to this game as well as added Canada and Mexico and other countries/bodies of land (by boat or swimming) such as some cool things with the Norsemen and Spanish conquest to the map for "exploring" and "getting the hell out of America because we're outlaws and want to flee the country to escape pursecution". It would have been so great. I do firmly hope that once Rock* is done with GTA6, they get back to RDR2. But excellent video!
Thank you, Chris!
Yooo this got taken down i didn't know that
It did?
@@mikkeljuliusnormannjensenn3386 Yes it was taken done. Dunno why. It was originally uploaded over a week ago?
Because he’s trying to get monetised
Yep, addressed this in the community tab. Had to make some adjustments on it.
Why???
I’m amazed on how much you research for your videos
Thanks buddy, appreciate it when people notice!
@@ManvsHistory yeah it’s crazy honestly do you work at that western museum you have mentioned a few times ? Since you seem to have an incredible amount of knowledge on the Wild West I find it interesting so I would love to be able to learn more than the basics
@@violetraven9440 Ha! No, I'm a history professor at a college out in Colorado.
@@ManvsHistory ohhh that makes sense I bet you’re an awesome teacher
@@violetraven9440 Thank you, my man!
I really appreciate that you put your "Like & Subscribe" message at the end of the video. If I've watched the video that far, I probably like it. I detest TH-camrs who put their "commercials" at the beginning of their videos; that's not what I clicked the link to see. Again, thank you.
Why doesn’t this man have more subscribers
Cuz he just started yt
I like this guy. Thanks Franklin!
We must make some marketing in RDR2 forums for this chanel!
Those fish are something out of my dreams nice catches man 👍🏽🐟
Love the videos man keep them up! Could you do a video on the camp? Maybe do some ideas for what Rockstar could add to make camp feel more real and alive. Cheers man x
Thanks TJ, I'll add it to the list to look further into.
Two videos in the same day? You're spoiling us!
I love watching every video you put out. Its way better than any history class. Keep up the good work man ill keep tuning in.
Thanks Tyler! Glad you're enjoying them!
I’ve been watching this dude for like a year and he is the best he needs more subs
My dad collects old bait casting reels from turn of the century up to the fifties. Awesome reels. He even uses a few of them to fish with. I have a few as well and use them now and then.
Come on rockstar... I wanna get crushed by a train cart while fishing 😂
Not just a train cart, a train cart full of boulders!
I think I've seen all your videos 😂 one of my fave channels for sure! I appreciate the effort you put in
Mighty kind of you! Thank you, Tj!
I get absolutely destroyed in every event involving shooting and somehow I win every single fishing event.
As a Norwegian i am definitely offended thats there's no Fisher role! Lol
Ha! And I'm offended for you! That's how that works now, right?!?
Ay man I ain’t no expert but I always like helping out, it’s cool to reuploaded your videos but maybe every other day it’s a old video because I know the intro was a problem so maybe a video every other day than to fill in a reupload 3 times or week and 2 new videos a week. But I believe it consistently upload 3 videos a day that’s crazy grind. You can do this man👍
Appreciate it, Alster!
Hello friend, I do have a question to you, where do you find the Sears Catalog, cannot find it, and great video by the way ! All the best to you friend !
Love the Griefer comment!!
Such good videos you make, great job!!
Thanks Robby! Really appreciate that, man.
I wish you didn’t have to keep reuploading and your channel was monetized
You and me both, brother!
love the posters you have in ur background. where did you get them? :)
I've blasted a few fish with the sawed-off..
There should be alligator gars around St. Denis..
Griefers are historically inaccurate. The man has spoken
Well, not really
This video inspired me to buy myself the Book of the Black Bass just so I could read what a "fishing nerd" of the wild west had to say.
However being a fan of the wild west setting, I did not want some recently printed copy, instead I went for the earliest edition I could find...that turned out to be the 1889 second edition.
That's awesome, man! I'm the same way! I always try and buy the early editions because I think they look better on the shelf, and have a certain cachet to them. Very cool, my friend!
Where did you find that 2nd edition? I read about Book of the Black Bass in another book, "A History of Baitcasting in America", and was curious. Not sure if I'd need the collector's price tag on an older copy, though.
@@okoatsoda I found it on Ebay, being sold by a small antique shop in Michigan.
I did some digging around before buying just to be sure that it was not some scam or anything. When I got it it was clear that it's the real deal.
I heard that there are remakes of the early editions if your interested in reading it with the original looks but without the collectors price tag.
You should do some accuracy of the location and habits of fish in red dead online. I found steelhead/rainbow trout in the incredibly warm waters right near the border of New Austin, and they're super aggressive. Please, talk about how inaccurate this is.
I care about things like this way more than the price inflation that all these videos seem to emphasize.
Accuracy of robberies? Love your videos aswell.
You should take in account that money in the game has different worth from money at that time (which would be a historical inaccuracy in itself but whatya gonna do) and that the prices differ in story mode.
But if the equipment costs more but you also get payed more for the goods you sell, the exchange-rate stays pretty much the same besides the numbers being higher.
Hope you get what I'm pointing at.
Greetings from germany
Northern Ontario! Heck yeah good walleye up there
I really get lost in fishing, once I cast the first line it’s like hours just go by without my acknowledge.
Finally got the 15 different fish species belt buckle in red dead online
Took me 1 year and a few months
Finally got it
Nice work, Pedro! That's a tough one to get. Well done, man!
You gotta hold the baitcasters with reel up so you can thump the spool. Otherwise you end up with a bird's nest as the reel keeps spinning after the tackle hits the water.
Yeah, I can't imagine how they held them down without birdsnesting? Seems impossible.
New fear unlocked every time I kiss a fish it will take revenge
Impressive catch of the pike from northern Ontario, any chance you remember the name of the lake?
Of course! But it's my secret spot, Matthew!
Fishing in video games is always really relaxing, sea of thieves comes to mind
Great vid, have liked and subscribed 🤠👍
Thanks buddy!
I fish once a week in the summer and I usually never catch more than one and I’m a terrible fisherman yet it’s still my favorite activity (real life not red dead)
The reality is I think plenty of people were shot in the back of the head while fishing back then. Just no one found out about it.
Your characters face on the thumbnail XD
I’ve runned and gunned across the territories. I’ve hung a man from a ravine in New Austin, dragged someone through the snow of Ambarino behind my horse, shot a man for a legendary gator in Lemoyne, and even stole someone’s mailbag in New Hanover.
But to shoot a man, at *his* fishin’ hole?
I am dishonorable, sure. Killer? Sure. But I ain’t no monster.
It's blasphemous!
That $32.50 includes an infinite supply of line.
Ha! Is it Seaguar fluorocarbon? Yellow label? If so, that's a steal!
I love fishing too!
Nice video and greetings from Ohio ✌️
That’s right griefers running me over with a wagon and blowing my head off with a shotgun is historically inaccurate
I’d like to think a kill multiple enemi I’d like to think a kill multiple animals with a single explosive challenge as a reference to the guy who use TNT to fish
Haha! I didn't expect a western history related video to include a Puerto Rico related news. I never heard of that story, I hope he was not a relative.
I dig DEEP into the archives!
Those 2 thumbs down are from the fish... they’ve evolved 👀
I can't wait for the chance to chase someone down shouting about how they're historically inaccurate
Just proves we need a fishing role with some cool period correct clothes, rod and reels and fishing boats we can fish from and customize.
Haven't you made this video already?
He has, but I believe he's experiencing takedowns, or threats of takedowns, because his content deals with a game rooted in guns and shooting. Also, the Perfesser has to add the Patreon outro, as the channel is not monetized.
Exactly, thanks Tim! Really appreciate you answering some of these, as I'm sure I miss some.
Yea, I saw the Patreon video, but it just seemed odd that the video was uploaded again. But Thanks Tim👍
@@mikkeljuliusnormannjensenn3386 It's all good! Hopefully it can stay up, now! Hate to pull these after they've gained traction. It's painful.
@@ManvsHistory Yea, I bet. Hopefully your videos will get monetized soon🤞
Growing up fishing in the UK I always thought americans looked weird with their reels on top
Did people eat or sell most of the fish they caught?
What spots do you fish at in RDO?
Cumberland Falls
@@ManvsHistory thank you
The only thing I think they slacked on was having Steelhead and Sockeye down in what's supposed to be a Louisiana like biome. But, what can you do. They really get so much right that I can forgive Rainbow trout and Sockeye Salmon being in a water that is most likely far too warm for them.
And if you're living in Colorado, you better be fly fishing for trout. Leave the gear home and fish like a gentleman.
Ha! 'Leave the gear home and fish like a gentleman', I love it. I spent a lot of time fly fishing for trout in Colorado- even used to teach fly fishing up in the mountains during college summers. Don't hate me, but I actually fish pike, and walleye now almost exclusively. Most people aren't aware the Colorado has some great fishing for both. My cousin and I try to make it out once a week. Sometimes we catch bass as well, but that's often an accident.
@@ManvsHistory Oh I was just joking anyway x) I grew up traditional fishing and tried fly fishing about 6 years ago and just fell in love with it. I love it so much I don't do any other fishing but sometimes I miss throwing lures for largemouth and smallies.
I think as time goes on I'll eventually go back to using my spin tackle once in a while. Also, the truth is no matter what some might say there are some things you just can't do fly fishing. Like good luck going more than 10 feet deep without a totally dedicated rig.
And I can believe there's some great pike and walleye fishing out there. If I had a boat I'd try my hand at fly fishing for pike and muskie here in Pennsylvania, and walleye take a fly pretty readily if you can get it to them! Lol I just wanted to make a snarky comment is all, love your videos on RDR they're great.
@@adamg7984 It's all good, man, never took it the wrong way! I agree, FF is great, but I love casting a Len Thompson for pike or jigging for walleye even more. I do mostly boat fishing out here now. I'm loving it.
@@ManvsHistory Any fishing is good fishing so here's to success on the water. Tight lines out there in Colorado!
Died while fishing using explosives? Lol the first day I got dynamite on RDO that happened to me
Little did you realize you were being historically accurate. Well done, sir!
Forgot to say it was a heck of a laugh
there should be a fishing role in read dead online
we’re do you fish and hunt i need to know
Where could I find a bamboo trunk rod today?
www.scheels.com/p/bnm-spinning-rod-company-multi-section-rigged-bamboo-spinning-rod/04639220124.html?store=&gclid=CjwKCAjwy_aUBhACEiwA2IHHQAIm-BW3CetZEm6tKsUd6TFgbQRF4rNRbYCShXuITwxKgmlTRqU-BhoCorgQAvD_BwE
...And Scheels is the best. I love that company.
As we would say in Mexico
"Ste wey es la verga" xd
Image how big the Fishes was xD!
shot in the back while fishing?Thats worse then What Agent Milton did in St.Denis and we all know what he did.
If u fish with a bait caster up side down wouldn’t u get a ton of birds nests
i mean the same price that it was in real life would be good emersion, but red dead online players have billions of dollars
Love your videos but why so much emphasis on the price inflation from actual to game? It’s pretty clear that the game has higher prices/pays more than the actual period for everything. So why make it such a big part of every video? More focus on the features and locations would be interesting to me. Keep the content coming though. Love how much research you do.
Thanks, Noah. Personally, I think the prices are interesting, which is why I like to focus on them. Not everything is inflated. Some things R* actually gets right. They even pay us too much for certain items. It's especially useful in the fur prices video, as it helps explain why certain pelts (silver fox, beaver, buffalo, etc) made those animals sought after, while other species (cougars, etc) were effectively ignored.
Déjà vu
First
That's pretty fishy