You are completely correct about ball reaction videos w/ brand new balls being at least a bit misleading, and I appreciate greatly you doing old vs. new vids like this. I HAVEN'T EVEN EVER OWNED A STORM BALL but your videos provide insight about balls in general that I just can't seem to find anywhere else. In fact, your breakdowns are pushing me to consider a switch to the Storm/Roto family. Well, that and their amazing lineup. I wish I knew someone that ran through each of the balls in the Hammer/EBI lineup (I'm a Hammer guy, for now), but I'm sure this isn't exactly the least time consuming thing to do. As a relatively new bowler who's bought a number of different balls but is just getting to the point of understanding what I'm looking for, I wanna thank you for taking the time to share what you see and feel. It's helping me immensely.
Thanks, I got a phaze 2 about 3 weeks ago and since I'm working to perfect my shots ( I've only been bowling for a year almost to the day) and 2 handed for about 5 months so I have probably almost 200 games already and its held up really good. My first ball after probably 500 games barely hooked and the cover separated from the cover. Definitely sticking with storm for the rest of my Tim's bowling
Thanks Luke. I was close to throw my ludicrous pearl in the trash box, but now it's getting a 1000 grits surfing for sure and a new chance. Keep up the good work. And just to let you know. In my opinion your videos are always very sober and never offending.
This looks like a must have tournament ball! Love the way you did this review. Glad it holds up over many games. Probably too much cover for league bowling but I'm definitely interested.
Yeah if you're a tournament bowler that throws Storm, you have a Phaze 2, it's just kind of a necessary reaction, that's why it's been around so long. Once you get the cover broken in, you CAN throw it in league, but other stuff looks better and saving this one for use in tournaments will get more life and more EFFECTIVE use out of it.
@@LukeRosdahl appreciate the reply. I think that phase 4 would be better suited for house. I used to have a hyroad pearl and loved in on most league shots. That R2s cover was great for me. Weak on misses in the oil plenty of recovery on misses right.
Very nice video, just got a P2. This is my first storm 15lbs ball. I have been throwing ebi for a while and now until they got bought out. Their equipment will not be made in the US anymore. I appreciate that storm is still making their stuff in the USA and I plan on eventually transitioning my arsenal to full storm/roto
I just got mine last week and good lord this thing hooks a ton. I bowl no thumb one hand so I naturally have a lot of hook. My first throw actually hooked into the gutter, on a fresh house shot. I can’t wait to get some games on it to tame this thing down! My gut feeling is that after maybe 30 games it will tame down into something extremely usable on my house shot.
Luke you did it again new vs old you brought out some very good points. 10-15 games on the ball is a good rule of thumb to really see what the ball is capable of doing after a track has been established on the ball. Some people when they get a new ball and maybe throw it maybe six to eight games don't like it and then they are ready to give a ball away or say the ball is no good. They have not really gave the ball a chance.
Re-watching this Bc my first p2 died so fast and back-flared over the thumb hole (just at the end of the hook into the roll phase) it was unusable. Just got another one to stash Bc I know it’s a money maker but would rather drill it knowing how the surface breaks in. Thanks for sharing this. Especially with this ball.
I think there is a breaking in period for the P2 of about 20 or so games. That’s about the difference I see in your new vs old here. I’m getting ready to break in a second P2! And will prolly stash another... Great vid Luke!
just bought this one phaze 2 should have it drilled soon. i needed a ball i can bench mark with as i ahve taken bad advice from my proshop guys and end up getting the lower end pearls. it was time for me to get a decently strong ball that i can play fresh oil on, moving a bit deeper and earlier. than the pearls i have currently. thanx man love the vids
alright update time have about 15 games on the phaze 2 took it to 4k grit and it became a monster just ... cant explain it it just works. im playing in parts of the lane i havent played in since the lane machine broke and they were hand oiling for 4 months. love it cant wait to see what it does moving forward
Those are the two best balls I've ever had also. I had the Victory Road for 4 years (about 900 games), have had this Phaze II for 4 years (about 700 games on it). Never bowled better. I use the same ball all night even for all spares. I get it resurfaced about once a year and get it baked about three times a year.
Hey Luke, thank you for the great videos! I have a question sir. I'm a lower rev 260 to 270ish and lower speed 13ish at pins. My current setup is IQ Tour Solid, Phaze 2 and Pitch Black. I'm thinking Hy Road Pearl to fill a spot but the Asymmetrical spot has me stumped, what would you suggest? Thank you!
Yeah hyroad pearl sounds great for that spot. I think the Absolute would be a great asym option. Only a medium strength asym, so something that'll give you more punch without being too strong to use very often
I have a phaze 2. I keep going through the head pin on my house shots. I throw 2 handed 13-14mph. Would shinning up the surface a bit to get it to go a little longer before hooking help instead of just switching to a pearl cover? thanks.
Yeah you could try that first, and the Phaze 2 starts out REALLY strong out of the box, so you might actually just keep throwing it and get some games on it, it gets quite a bit more usable 20-30 games in.
This is interesting. Never considered the option of replacing a ball with the same ball. Probably because there is always something new and flashy that is the next "be all end all". thanks for the interesting take. PS. I've always wanted to do this.... 1st!!!
Yeah . . it's not the "exciting" thing to do, but a lot of the time people will ask me about replacing a ball that's still in production, and I'll just tell them to get another one. Then they find out it's actually more fun than trying something new, because you know exactly what you're getting, and that it's going to be awesome lol.
There’s a reason why some of these balls (iq tour, hyroad, hyroad pearl, Phaze II) stick around for half a decade or longer. They just work, they’re like the Honda Accords of bowling. Predictable and reliable.
Would love to see this done with the Storm Physix! It was amazing for me out of the box last year but I’m having a hard time with it now. But I think it’s more that my house lanes have less oil than last year (even though I was told they didn’t change anything), no one in my league has been close to last years scores.
That is one thing about the storm covers. I have never seen a cover die. I have an international release World Domination I bought in 2008. I threw it up until 2017 well over 900 games on it (90 games a year for 10 years and keep in mind I had other pieces and was bowling 3 leagues so 90 games a year isn't all that high). It was the original formula R2S Pearl and man do I love that ball. I can still throw it if I wanted to throw no thumb, but as I get older it is becoming harder to do so, hence the move to sarge easter. I can't say the same for other equipment I have thrown. I had Hammer die after about 1 year (even a bath with hot water and Dawn soap and then just a hot water rinse let it sit for 4 to 5 days and it still doesn't do anything. Even after detox and resurfacing.
H4 after just 2 years?? That’s a pretty long time actually . . when people complain about ball death, usually it’s like after 6 months. 2 years is a good life
I have 2 phaze II’s one is brand new and working amazingly for me. On the other hand my other phaze II has over 200 games on it and I have a hard time throwing it. What should I do with it? I’ve considered sanding it down to 360 and polishing it.
Jaden Denyes Find a pro shop with a Detox and get the oil extracted. Messing with the surface won’t help for long if it’s got too much oil in the cover
Storms 3000 grit finish is listed as being 500grit on 4 sides for 30secs firm followed by 3000 on 4 sides for 10secs light. So the surface on the new ball is still way more then the finish used on the old ball
I wouldn't say way more, but still more, yes. It's not possible to replicate factory finish though no matter what you do. You can get close, but not super close.
@@LukeRosdahl try 500/3000 as Storm suggested. Im going to say its way more then what you tried. Obviously you like the finish you used in the video vs the ob finish. No doubt 500/3000 would get you a very similar reaction like you saw with the new ball. Great video. Just saying Storm is one of the only ones I know that give you the info for how to try and get their various finishes. Like 1500 polish. No one would guess that means 500/1000/2000/4000/polish. Then you have people literally do 1500 and polish and not understand why its so different. Enjoyed the videos as always
@@erici9025 Fair point. Normally I find a fresh 1000 pad followed by a slightly used 2000 by hand gets me close, 500 is too strong of an undergrit by hand. If I'd have gone 500-3000 on a spinner it would have been different, but I didn't have access to one when I was filming.
@@LukeRosdahl I hate doing by hand. #spinnerlife. Not having that I definitely wouldn't want to try anything like that by hand either. Wouldn't be the same/similar.
@@erici9025 Surface typically ends up a bit rougher by hand, but doesn't get quite as deep. I didn't have to worry about how deep it got since I really didn't throw that many shots, but yeah, it's definitely not the preferred option.
i have an axiom which i consider to be quite similar to the P2, strong solid cover and big core. just had to have it resurfaced because ive prob bowled 300+ games on it and its not hooking in the fronts anymore.
Luke, great video! I have a P2 and I’ve used it A LOT. It might have something like 800-1000 games on it. I’ve changed the surface in it quite a lot too. Now the logos are barely visible. Do you think I can still use it? When is the time to retire?
I can't throw it on the left side, just too strong and sharp. Probably need to put some games on it, but the general shape doesn't work that well for me lefty
@@LukeRosdahl - time to go back righty? I am a piss poor bowler - used a ring in the pin P2 @ RCL for a 279 (last season city tourney) - I will always stay loyal to her! Watching you all on Thursdays makes me cautious of getting back in RCL, lol. Thanks for all you do!
Dude, I just got my today, proshop handed to me frame 9 1st game, wasn't shooting good. Balls I was throwing were laboring. 1st time throwing was a strike, weak but struck, proceeded to shoot 268 the 2nd game. And holy shit, i shot so many TV strikes, slinging it over 15-17 and going to about 8-12 range and just destroying the pocket, I never seen a ball go through the pins like this one did. I was afraid it would be too much like my IQ Tour Nano but it's nothing like it, My god, I hope this isn't just a perfect match for it kind of night and it's a thing to come. Last game was 212 but I opened the 10th cause of a bad release and left split. Wow is all I have to say.... everyone needs this ball... no joke.
Luke, your old P2 still looks pretty darn good! Over the 200 hundred games, have you detoxed it, and do you refresh the surface often? Love my mine and hope it lasts as long as yours. Thanks for the video!
Then either it was drilled wrong, you're playing the lanes wrong, or the lanes are too oily or too dry for it. Highly doubting there's too much oil, but go out and practice, keep using it, and that should break it in. If that doesn't work, send me a video and we'll see what we can figure out
Mine doesn’t hook either, Only like 4 full games on it, but I am underwhelmed so far. If you see this…..please let me know if it got any better with use
*considers if plugging the fingers after 10 shots was actually the right thing to do* Drilled my new one 3/4” stronger as I wanted a “touch” smoother and didn’t want to put a hole in this as I did in the last. To say smooth would be generous, it does all its business in the first 40ft, even after hitting with some compound.
Robert Kendall It’s always about 5 games before I can get a truer read on something at least, but 15ish games before a ball settles in and becomes truly consistent. I mean, I have a really good idea where it’s going to end up after 5 shots, but I still get surprised occasionally
Nah, not going to happen, just isn't going to work out. DH Bowling just put up a video where they compare the two, they do a really good job, so go check that one out!
Jake H Probably your internet connection, I pretty thoroughly check everything out before and after I finish a video and upload it. Still manage to miss things sometimes but video skipping would be pretty easy to seen. Video file was smooth and it appears smooth when I watch it. Might try again on different WiFi or a different device and see if that helps
You are completely correct about ball reaction videos w/ brand new balls being at least a bit misleading, and I appreciate greatly you doing old vs. new vids like this.
I HAVEN'T EVEN EVER OWNED A STORM BALL but your videos provide insight about balls in general that I just can't seem to find anywhere else. In fact, your breakdowns are pushing me to consider a switch to the Storm/Roto family. Well, that and their amazing lineup.
I wish I knew someone that ran through each of the balls in the Hammer/EBI lineup (I'm a Hammer guy, for now), but I'm sure this isn't exactly the least time consuming thing to do.
As a relatively new bowler who's bought a number of different balls but is just getting to the point of understanding what I'm looking for, I wanna thank you for taking the time to share what you see and feel. It's helping me immensely.
Thanks, I got a phaze 2 about 3 weeks ago and since I'm working to perfect my shots ( I've only been bowling for a year almost to the day) and 2 handed for about 5 months so I have probably almost 200 games already and its held up really good. My first ball after probably 500 games barely hooked and the cover separated from the cover. Definitely sticking with storm for the rest of my Tim's bowling
Thanks Luke. I was close to throw my ludicrous pearl in the trash box, but now it's getting a 1000 grits surfing for sure and a new chance.
Keep up the good work. And just to let you know. In my opinion your videos are always very sober and never offending.
MNohrLarsen Thanks! Yeah there’s always plenty of things you can do with a ball to keep it going
New vs Old could be a track on your next album Enter the Lu-Tang 36 lanes.
This looks like a must have tournament ball! Love the way you did this review. Glad it holds up over many games. Probably too much cover for league bowling but I'm definitely interested.
Yeah if you're a tournament bowler that throws Storm, you have a Phaze 2, it's just kind of a necessary reaction, that's why it's been around so long. Once you get the cover broken in, you CAN throw it in league, but other stuff looks better and saving this one for use in tournaments will get more life and more EFFECTIVE use out of it.
@@LukeRosdahl appreciate the reply. I think that phase 4 would be better suited for house. I used to have a hyroad pearl and loved in on most league shots. That R2s cover was great for me. Weak on misses in the oil plenty of recovery on misses right.
Very nice video, just got a P2. This is my first storm 15lbs ball. I have been throwing ebi for a while and now until they got bought out. Their equipment will not be made in the US anymore. I appreciate that storm is still making their stuff in the USA and I plan on eventually transitioning my arsenal to full storm/roto
Michael Cenzoprano one of these people
I was like WHOA?!!!?! Did he reverse the picture??? Then I remembered you bowled righty then went to lefty. WHEW!!!
Great point! Thanks
I just got mine last week and good lord this thing hooks a ton. I bowl no thumb one hand so I naturally have a lot of hook. My first throw actually hooked into the gutter, on a fresh house shot. I can’t wait to get some games on it to tame this thing down! My gut feeling is that after maybe 30 games it will tame down into something extremely usable on my house shot.
TheIntrinity YES definitely. Give it some games and it settles into awesomeness
Luke you did it again new vs old you brought out some very good points. 10-15 games on the ball is a good rule of thumb to really see what the ball is capable of doing after a track has been established on the ball. Some people when they get a new ball and maybe throw it maybe six to eight games don't like it and then they are ready to give a ball away or say the ball is no good. They have not really gave the ball a chance.
Lol some people will use a ball 10 FRAMES and be done with it
Re-watching this Bc my first p2 died so fast and back-flared over the thumb hole (just at the end of the hook into the roll phase) it was unusable. Just got another one to stash Bc I know it’s a money maker but would rather drill it knowing how the surface breaks in. Thanks for sharing this. Especially with this ball.
I think there is a breaking in period for the P2 of about 20 or so games. That’s about the difference I see in your new vs old here. I’m getting ready to break in a second P2! And will prolly stash another... Great vid Luke!
just bought this one phaze 2 should have it drilled soon. i needed a ball i can bench mark with as i ahve taken bad advice from my proshop guys and end up getting the lower end pearls. it was time for me to get a decently strong ball that i can play fresh oil on, moving a bit deeper and earlier. than the pearls i have currently. thanx man love the vids
alright update time have about 15 games on the phaze 2 took it to 4k grit and it became a monster just ... cant explain it it just works. im playing in parts of the lane i havent played in since the lane machine broke and they were hand oiling for 4 months. love it cant wait to see what it does moving forward
Love the videos bro, keep up the good work. In my opinion this is the best ball Storm has ever made. Victory Road was my previous favorite !!!
Those are the two best balls I've ever had also. I had the Victory Road for 4 years (about 900 games), have had this Phaze II for 4 years (about 700 games on it). Never bowled better. I use the same ball all night even for all spares. I get it resurfaced about once a year and get it baked about three times a year.
That ball should be in everyone's bag!
I'm 13 and I have it
It is one of my 8 bowling balls
Hey Luke, thank you for the great videos!
I have a question sir. I'm a lower rev 260 to 270ish and lower speed 13ish at pins. My current setup is IQ Tour Solid, Phaze 2 and Pitch Black. I'm thinking Hy Road Pearl to fill a spot but the Asymmetrical spot has me stumped, what would you suggest? Thank you!
Yeah hyroad pearl sounds great for that spot. I think the Absolute would be a great asym option. Only a medium strength asym, so something that'll give you more punch without being too strong to use very often
I have a phaze 2. I keep going through the head pin on my house shots. I throw 2 handed 13-14mph. Would shinning up the surface a bit to get it to go a little longer before hooking help instead of just switching to a pearl cover? thanks.
Yeah you could try that first, and the Phaze 2 starts out REALLY strong out of the box, so you might actually just keep throwing it and get some games on it, it gets quite a bit more usable 20-30 games in.
Luke Rosdahl thanks!
This is interesting. Never considered the option of replacing a ball with the same ball. Probably because there is always something new and flashy that is the next "be all end all". thanks for the interesting take.
PS. I've always wanted to do this....
1st!!!
Yeah . . it's not the "exciting" thing to do, but a lot of the time people will ask me about replacing a ball that's still in production, and I'll just tell them to get another one. Then they find out it's actually more fun than trying something new, because you know exactly what you're getting, and that it's going to be awesome lol.
There’s a reason why some of these balls (iq tour, hyroad, hyroad pearl, Phaze II) stick around for half a decade or longer. They just work, they’re like the Honda Accords of bowling. Predictable and reliable.
Would love to see this done with the Storm Physix! It was amazing for me out of the box last year but I’m having a hard time with it now. But I think it’s more that my house lanes have less oil than last year (even though I was told they didn’t change anything), no one in my league has been close to last years scores.
Might need to refresh the cover or get it detoxed/have the oil extracted. I'm sure I will, or at least I'll have a "new vs now" video.
I've heard a LOT of Storm pieces lose something after about 60 to 80 games.
Even after trying to "revive" it.
Nice video, thanks!
That is one thing about the storm covers. I have never seen a cover die. I have an international release World Domination I bought in 2008. I threw it up until 2017 well over 900 games on it (90 games a year for 10 years and keep in mind I had other pieces and was bowling 3 leagues so 90 games a year isn't all that high). It was the original formula R2S Pearl and man do I love that ball. I can still throw it if I wanted to throw no thumb, but as I get older it is becoming harder to do so, hence the move to sarge easter.
I can't say the same for other equipment I have thrown. I had Hammer die after about 1 year (even a bath with hot water and Dawn soap and then just a hot water rinse let it sit for 4 to 5 days and it still doesn't do anything. Even after detox and resurfacing.
Crux
my alpha crux died after just 2 years
H4 after just 2 years?? That’s a pretty long time actually . . when people complain about ball death, usually it’s like after 6 months. 2 years is a good life
yeah like the idol pearl. that cover needed to be broke in big time before it wasn’t so jumpy and unpredictable for me.
Exactly, I'm also doing one of these for the next Idol Pearl I'm drilling. It's pretty flippy and over/under for 5ish games, but by 15, it's amazing.
I have 2 phaze II’s one is brand new and working amazingly for me. On the other hand my other phaze II has over 200 games on it and I have a hard time throwing it. What should I do with it? I’ve considered sanding it down to 360 and polishing it.
Jaden Denyes Find a pro shop with a Detox and get the oil extracted. Messing with the surface won’t help for long if it’s got too much oil in the cover
Luke Rosdahl will do thanks
I have a pitch purple phase 2 original hyroad and ufo should i get the hyroad pear and hyroad x?
Depends on how much you like the Hyroad. Sounds more like a Hustle Ink and something like a Trend or Idol Pearl would fit better with what you have.
i have a storm drive with 700 games on it and its still going strong
Storms 3000 grit finish is listed as being 500grit on 4 sides for 30secs firm followed by 3000 on 4 sides for 10secs light. So the surface on the new ball is still way more then the finish used on the old ball
I wouldn't say way more, but still more, yes. It's not possible to replicate factory finish though no matter what you do. You can get close, but not super close.
@@LukeRosdahl try 500/3000 as Storm suggested. Im going to say its way more then what you tried. Obviously you like the finish you used in the video vs the ob finish. No doubt 500/3000 would get you a very similar reaction like you saw with the new ball. Great video. Just saying Storm is one of the only ones I know that give you the info for how to try and get their various finishes. Like 1500 polish. No one would guess that means 500/1000/2000/4000/polish. Then you have people literally do 1500 and polish and not understand why its so different. Enjoyed the videos as always
@@erici9025 Fair point. Normally I find a fresh 1000 pad followed by a slightly used 2000 by hand gets me close, 500 is too strong of an undergrit by hand. If I'd have gone 500-3000 on a spinner it would have been different, but I didn't have access to one when I was filming.
@@LukeRosdahl I hate doing by hand. #spinnerlife. Not having that I definitely wouldn't want to try anything like that by hand either. Wouldn't be the same/similar.
@@erici9025 Surface typically ends up a bit rougher by hand, but doesn't get quite as deep. I didn't have to worry about how deep it got since I really didn't throw that many shots, but yeah, it's definitely not the preferred option.
i have an axiom which i consider to be quite similar to the P2, strong solid cover and big core. just had to have it resurfaced because ive prob bowled 300+ games on it and its not hooking in the fronts anymore.
Might get an oil extraction too
Luke, great video!
I have a P2 and I’ve used it A LOT. It might have something like 800-1000 games on it. I’ve changed the surface in it quite a lot too. Now the logos are barely visible. Do you think I can still use it? When is the time to retire?
Let the reaction be your guide . . if it still scores, keep riding it!
Do you still get the chance to break out the P2? Still has to be my favorite.
I can't throw it on the left side, just too strong and sharp. Probably need to put some games on it, but the general shape doesn't work that well for me lefty
@@LukeRosdahl - time to go back righty? I am a piss poor bowler - used a ring in the pin P2 @ RCL for a 279 (last season city tourney) - I will always stay loyal to her! Watching you all on Thursdays makes me cautious of getting back in RCL, lol. Thanks for all you do!
3 weeks ago i pick up a 2p and know and I know how good the ball is and picking up a 2nd one. Update Friday night shot a 300 with it.
Dude, I just got my today, proshop handed to me frame 9 1st game, wasn't shooting good. Balls I was throwing were laboring. 1st time throwing was a strike, weak but struck, proceeded to shoot 268 the 2nd game. And holy shit, i shot so many TV strikes, slinging it over 15-17 and going to about 8-12 range and just destroying the pocket, I never seen a ball go through the pins like this one did. I was afraid it would be too much like my IQ Tour Nano but it's nothing like it, My god, I hope this isn't just a perfect match for it kind of night and it's a thing to come. Last game was 212 but I opened the 10th cause of a bad release and left split. Wow is all I have to say.... everyone needs this ball... no joke.
I pick up 2nd and will picking up a 3rd one soon
Luke, your old P2 still looks pretty darn good! Over the 200 hundred games, have you detoxed it, and do you refresh the surface often? Love my mine and hope it lasts as long as yours. Thanks for the video!
Just religiously wipe the ball off, clean it probably less than I should, but don't tend to add surface much because I like stuff lane shined
Don't tend to need to detox often, by the time something needs a detox it's generally time to replace the ball anyway
how does this compare to my well used halo?
Fairly similar, Halo is just stronger and a little more forward off the end of the pattern.
thanks great videos keep going
I just bought a p2 and it doesn’t hook at all
Then either it was drilled wrong, you're playing the lanes wrong, or the lanes are too oily or too dry for it. Highly doubting there's too much oil, but go out and practice, keep using it, and that should break it in. If that doesn't work, send me a video and we'll see what we can figure out
Mine doesn’t hook either, Only like 4 full games on it, but I am underwhelmed so far. If you see this…..please let me know if it got any better with use
*considers if plugging the fingers after 10 shots was actually the right thing to do*
Drilled my new one 3/4” stronger as I wanted a “touch” smoother and didn’t want to put a hole in this as I did in the last. To say smooth would be generous, it does all its business in the first 40ft, even after hitting with some compound.
Robert Kendall It’s always about 5 games before I can get a truer read on something at least, but 15ish games before a ball settles in and becomes truly consistent. I mean, I have a really good idea where it’s going to end up after 5 shots, but I still get surprised occasionally
Can you do a phase 2 vs Axiom?
Nah, not going to happen, just isn't going to work out. DH Bowling just put up a video where they compare the two, they do a really good job, so go check that one out!
Luke Rosdahl ok thanks 👍
Luke Rosdahl Dh bowling’s video was very helpful, is it possible for an all road and axiom comparison?
Nah, those two are miles away, not really any reason to go there.
Luke Rosdahl how would you compare them in like distance and power? Just wanting to know because my coach recommended those 2 to me
Idk if anyone else is seeing it but my video keeps skipping aroung
Jake H Probably your internet connection, I pretty thoroughly check everything out before and after I finish a video and upload it. Still manage to miss things sometimes but video skipping would be pretty easy to seen. Video file was smooth and it appears smooth when I watch it. Might try again on different WiFi or a different device and see if that helps
I am getting Phaze II over than III
Shot my 3rd game and 1st 800 series with my Phaze II
Cool! I'm not sure if I've shot an honor score with a P2 actually . . but it makes me a lot of money at tournaments, so that's better lol.
What's your average. Mines a 205
@@resbuzz It hovers around 230
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Daniel Schank Ok cool, I’ll get to it in a bit.