Fun fact about the frogmen, they pick random guys as leaders in training. Also the frogmen do not show rank on their uniform, if you see a group one could be a captain and another a coporal but they would treat them equal, because they are in the eyes of the frogman corp.
Belgian army does that too for every fighting unit since the very begining of the bootcamp, everyday a recruit is choosed to be what we call "caporal de jour" (day corporal) that gives the activities to the rest of the instruction platoon and is responsible in case of problems of course.
@@MrPyroguy1 muligvis, kan være de har adopteret samme tankegang. Jeg kan huske for nogle år siden hvor der var pressemøde, hvor chefen fra frøerne og chefen for jægerne snakkede. Ham fra jægerne var i den pæne uniform med rang og alt der hører sig til. Chefen fra frøerne stod i militærets grønne sweater. Det var en sjov kontrast.
That swimmingpool is actually in the same town I live in. The frogmen always come there, the school I went to is located right beside the swimmingpool (we also used it). It was kinda badass seeing all the military vehicles park in front of the swimmingpool as a middleschooler.
Absolutely love the way you make videos man - no long intros, outros, constant pausing, and needless commenting.. It's to the point, relevant, fun, and insightful - yours is one of a few channels I get excited about when a "New video!" notification pops up - appreciate your channel, and the time you invest in making videos .. and being a Dane, this series in particular sparks joy!
Thanks brother. I watch youtube and HATE the long intros, constant plugs and "smash the like button" . I don't get why people think its a good idea. We come here to not see standard sh-t from regular TV.
He's basically just stealing videos. The commentary part makes it his video and by just pointing a camera at himself and sitting in a chair he's not doing shit.
@@mrscoot595 If you have no other take-away from it than that, I guess it just isn't for you. The commentary is his part, yes. It's engaging and relevant commentary, not just some tween reacting with ooh's and ahh's. Jameson makes it an interesting engagement, raises questions and links to both personal and viewer anecdotes - it adds a welcome feeling of community.
@@michaelmarkin3499 Yes and no. You still go through 11B basic then airborne and after that Ranger School. Then SF (if you even make it through the rest).
@@srenslothnielsen4462 Du har fuldstændig ret i at det er ganske normalt er græde til sit eget bryllup :) Men om man vil "respektere vores kronprins" er fuldstændigt op til hver enkel person. Frederik virker som en reel fyr men han har ikke fortjent mere respekt end nogen anden bare fordi han er født ind i et kongehus
@@rickifunk5394 it actually isnt. Im a dane myself and if u wanna use material like video, pictures etc with other people in it, they need their permission. Else they will get blurred. Its actually like zack jones said, some people dont do this for the fame. They want to be private about it.
@@Dasperhue2 It actually is. As a dane myself, i were curious and read up it on. From DR themselves -- ”Selve arbejdet med serien har været underlagt strenge sikkerhedshensyn, og vi har derfor også været nødt til at sløre de fleste frømænds ansigter, fordi man af hensyn til deres og landets sikkerhed ikke må kende deres identiteter."
Actually a lot of these Frogman recruits have no military background and thats why they often don't behave like a proper soldier would (such as drawing the route on the map).
@@bensonhedges479 first of all to have a bigger recruitment size, but also to get different views on things. (They get the basic training before they get to be frogmen recruits.)
The only issue with that is less experienced fighters are not as quick to follow orders and do shit right the first time, if you watch that celebrity commando training, you’ll notice a lot more drama, experienced soldiers just go head first into the games and torture, less trained people hem and haw too much and make it a big deal, the buds trainees just get the suck over with
21st Century Strength Ethos except cultures are very different. They would never make a big deal out of it. And having civilians come through is seen as a positive thing amongst in the corps, and out of all the SF guys we’ve had only 1 guy has been KIA, Danish SF is no joke!
@@bensonhedges479 Because most of hellweek is torture and breaking down the will. They want the strongest, fittest and most mentally tough people regardless of background. What follows hellweek are years of training. They're essentially just trying to find extraordinary people and then training them from scratch if possible.
I retired in 2011after 13 years in the teams. I spent my first 7 years in the USMC Recon and Force Recon community. In my twilight tour I was a BUDs instructor in First Phase. The Danish Frogs came out to engage with us in the building of a solid mentoring program to produce better Frogs on both ends. I'm proud to see they're towing the line so well.
12:00 Actually, quite uniquely for the Danish Frogmen is that you can apply straight from being a civilian, so to some of these guys this is their first encounter with the military.
Okay, a short brief on rewards: In the danish armed forces it is stricly forbidden to punish the soldiers in any way, unless a commanding officer has issued a disciplinary punishment according to the military disciplinary law. A work-around is to reward the soldiers instead. Example: If you forget to lock your locker, you could be issued a 2 kg replica of a key, which you would carry the next day to remind you to lock the f... locker, ie.helping the soldier by rewarding him ;-) Furthermore it is a way to install the right attitude into the guys, as they have chosen this line of work themselves.
In the Dutch army it is common that a guy would carry around a huge fire extinguisher if they forget their weapon more than once. That was the definition of having a bad day.
@@JamesonsTravels well its because of your insight and honest commentary, also you don't pretend to know stuff, if there is something you don't know or fully understand, you ask the community for answers.
when you get a "reward" in most of the danish army it's the oppsite.. and the reason why they call it a reward, it's because you are not allowed to punish people in the army, when i was in the army as a recruit we got "rewards" in form of static squat for a minute or 20 push-ups or something else..so when you were done with the reward you would say "thank you sergent" :D miss those times ^^
The scene with the map. It's not the patrol leader who fkd up. It's one of the patrolmen. And Jameson Travels. The guy at 12:12 getting chewed is the patrol leader. He is straight from civi street. He only tried our for the first week test and then went on to the course. All his military training was the first 5 weeks basic naval training you showed in previous episode. That's the thing with the Danish frogmen. The will take anyone in, from all branches and even civvies, as long as they show mental aptitude and physical stamina, the will teach them the skill sets.
I feel like that with almost all Special forces or unique units. It's more about mental vs physical. You obviously need a physical to some degree, but almost all of the test are to test how well you can do under stress as well as working with your team, so that in the field, everyone comes back alive
A fun detail is that they're speaking to the recruits in the formal tense. Like Usted in spanish. While they're slacking them off. There's something lovely and old school about that, cause we don't do that otherwise, anymore. Only in the military and at dinner with the queen...
@@yellowcactustvz4929 no, the opposite, the lack of use of formal, means that usage outside of addressing the royals is akin to being ostracized, like the one being spoken to in the formal is beneath contempt. And here they are trying to very much be a part of an elite group, that now sounds like they wouldn't as much as look at them to save their lives, way way scarier.
"This guy isn't fresh out of bootcamp" fun thing is, he could be. Not sure anymore but back in time you could apply for frogmen without ever even been to bootcamp
My uncle was a forgman, got a picture of the fella holding a sapi plate with three holes where he got luck whilst clearing out compounds against the tailban.
They're right in the head. The candidates aren't. Marking your route on a map? It's not right in the head to get your whole team killed over something that's common sense.
Its not about being right or wrong in the head. These courses are laid out very thoughtfully, the way the speak and stress the recruits is to prepare them for the stress they will meet when they are done. It never gets personal.
@@Matstarx25 precisely. And we can all sit here and say "I wouldn't have made that mistake." But we don't know until we're in that situation. There are people who are naturally in their head and think twice, quickly, and do things the right way. And there are people who aren't naturally like that. These lessons can get those types of people to pay attention to detail. And for the ones who never come around, they show them the door. It's that simple.
My uncle was a Search and Rescue swimmer in the Navy/Coast Guard for 21 years. He said when he went through back in the 80’s they tied their hands and feet together along with a brick then threw them into the pool and said figure it out or drown. He actually had a classmate panic and drown to death from it before the instructors could get him to surface
Initially, it seemed like our taper week just before a swim competition when I was in high school with zip ties, but then they blindfolded the guy and threw his ass in the water from 10 meters up. What a time.
Keep in mind that Larsen is neither an officer nor an NCO. Not even an experienced soldier. The special thing about the Frogman Corps is that civilian can apply for selection. If they do, they start with 30 days of generel naval bootcamp. Directly followed by 8 months of selection course. At this point, Larsen has about 2-3 months of military experience total!
It wasn't actually the guy who was called slow-witten who was patrol leader, the guy who was patrol leader made it through the entire selection process and the slow-witten guy got dropped due to just being useless. Also the Danish Frogmen actually allow civilians to join and the patrol leader was a civilian.
A great thing about the instructors' language, as addressing the candidates as You in plural. In Danish this is an anachronistic and extremely formal way of speaking to anyone - subordinates or not. The instructors are really laying down the land here.
The swimming one with the zip tie is hard as hell as I've been swimming for 8 years and I've done the training whihh strengthen your legs by swimming around 75m non stop without your hands and only your legs, trust me I know how hard it is
I have experience with the drown proofing. In BUD/S our hands were also behind our backs. That may have changed. I went through it back in 08. Either way, it’s a kick in the balls. Just gotta stay nice and calm. Easier said than done. Hats off to anybody who makes it through this exercise.
My Dad put me in a sack when I was a kid and threw me in the river. When I got home, he said he was teaching me to swim. He was a great old man, always thinking of me.
One of recruits are one of my good friends, who I was a sergeant with! He was one tough dude... he didn't make it! By the way, you can tell who made it and who didn't. The guys with their faces blurred made it!
No one of the guys who made it was not blurred. And some of those blurred didn't make it. Edit: I looked into it because I found it odd that it was like that.
I use to work in that indoor pool as a lifeguard, was always interesting when the frogmen booked it for the day.. It's open to the puplic most of the time, learned how to swim there and did dive with the frogmen a few times as my swimming classes would line up with some of their diving lessons.
One thing missing in the subs : The officers are referring to them, not as "you" but "You" - the most formal way to communicate in danish. "De" instead of "du". You'd never say "du" to the queen for example - always "De" and not "your's" (dine) but "Your's" (Deres)
temmelig uinterresant info - folk sidder nok ikke og ser de her for at faa et dansk-kursus eller se paa danskere snakke om dem selv som er standard hvergang der noget med danmark.
@@mtdrip9523 Og hvem er du til at bestemme, at det er 'temmelig uinteressant info'? Selv som en dansker synes, jeg da, det var ret interessant at høre dem snakke den måde, de gjorde - og det er jeg ikke ét sekund i tvivl om at andre nok er enige med mig i.
@@QuaxRSPS hold nu kaeft der er ingen der gider hoere paa det pis, folk kommer for at se specialstyrker og i dette tilfaelde er det danske saa lad vaere med at tro at folk er pisse interreseret i danskere, klassisk dansk karaktertraek at man tror verdens navle drejer sig omkring en. Hvordan tales der til soldater i resten af verden - fuldstaendig fucking ens.
@@mtdrip9523 "Der er ingen der gider at høre på det pis". Der tager du fejl - DU gider ikke. Hvem tror du, du er? Lad nu være med at snakke på vegne af alle andre og naivt tro, at de deler samme mening som dig (apropos verdens navle). Han skriver et lille fun fact, som folk kan læse eller lad være med - længere er den ikke. Du kan for helvede se, at hans kommentar har fået likes, så helt uinteressant kan det da ikke have været? Tænk at overtolke i en grad som dette - At du implicerer, at han tror, at Danmark er verdens fokus på det grundlag, at han laver en lille kommentar. Gudherrebevares. Sølle, sørgeligt og kedeligt liv, du lever, at du kan gå så meget op i noget så ligegyldigt. Hvor kedelig verden ikke ville se ud, hvis alle tænkte som dig - at man ikke engang må efterlade en lille 4 linjers kommentar om sit modersprog. Se det her som et wake-up call og prøv at se indad makker. Verden handler ikke om dig og langt de fleste tænker ikke, som De - og gudsketakoglov for det.
To make that idea translate to English, you have to say it's a plurality. You're literally saying "they/them" about everyone, which could be done out of respect, or here, to strip the person of their individuality. Which is actually a tactical decision in the armed forces.
Former sergeant in the Danish army, and we had to do some of the tests we call "Self confidence" tests. There is ALOT of these tests, and they are all numbered. One of those we did, was with a hood over our head, had to jump in a lake and swim to shore, that one really stuck with me, because i can't really swim, but had to suck it up and move on. Even worse, when not on TV, the instructor will say Ready. Then you reply "Your name, Number, Ask permission to perform the test" Instructor will reply "Go ahead, or in some cases wait" and you just wait for well as long as he see fit.
As fare as i remember, anyone (danish citizen) can apply to the Frogman Unit, even civilians - no need for prior military training -- they will teach you what you need to know. "All" you need is the will to see it through, and to be in good shape.
One thing you have to note now that there are subtitles, when the instructors talk to them they are always adressing them as "They" or "them" not you, you guys and such. This is a very respectfull way in Danish to talk to someone, it is hardly ever used unless it is to talk to elderly or royals. Or as here frogmen.
I love how in his thumbnail this guy looks like he respects the hell out of whatever he's seeing, or at the exact same time could actually be completely unimpressed by it.
The reward is really a punishmeant, in this case holding the wepoens in the air. Its called a reward becuase it sucks, so that they never make the mistanke a again. (like Jockos "Good")
Hey I commented on your live stream about this series and how there should be English subtitles. Good job in getting it done. This has been an awesome video. Keep up the good work man.
A sidenote for the non-native speakers, the form of address from the instructors to the students is a older formal one called "Des" where people were addressed as "De, Deres, Dem". The opposite is "Dus" which allows "Du, Dig, Dine". In todays Denmark its only used when addressing leaders of state, royalty or in similar formal situations. My assumption is that its used between instructor and student to further form a distance between them. Also, if you're curious "you" pretty much encompass the entirety of both Des and Dus.
The frog men aspirants are not always straight out of boot camp. There is a minimum age requirement of 21 and that's basically it. So some of these guys were civilians before this.
This is part of drown proofing. The WHOLE OBJECTIVE is to stay calm-use your head and think-get ur rhythm and swim. The one reason that causes people to drown is they panic, stop thinking, stop swimming, and drown. Never never never ever ever ever panic. Panic causes one to loose focus of breathing. They thrash around and exhaust-thus they drown.
The way they address the recruits is so formel Danish it almost sounds archaic using plural polite sense when addressing an individual - I quite like it but was very surprised.
5:20 - it's also a common rule that no matter what you're doing, you always keep your weapon within arms lenght in the danish army (im guessing it might be the same for many other militaries), if you cant reach it by maintaining your current form, with a stretched arm, then you're in deep doo doo with your Sergeant :S
Dont bring maps, yeah one of the lessons learned from WWII, operation market garden, british paras landing behind enemy lines with maps showing among other things drop zones for troops and resupply.
He's a civilian strait off the street. The entire reason for the introductory weeks is not to banish people who have no experience with military 101, it's to see who have the potential to LEARN. As the saying goes, the master has failed more times than most people have even tried, failure is not a crime at this point in their training. Failure only becomes a problem when it's systematically repeated.
they are speaking pretty soft compared to how hard they could have been, almost no cussing nor degrading, it where like looking at adults scolding kids and nothing more.
when the instructor gives a "reward" its exercise like push up or other things. so getting a reward is actually a "bad" thing Sorry for my English love your videos Jameson!!
Important to note. They all speak in polite tone. De, dem and deres. The polite and formal form of "you". It is very important, it shows "good form" and respect. Also kind of prevents you from speaking ill.
I used to do something similar with the pool when I was a bit younger. I didn't tie my hands and arms or anything, nor was it for any military service, I just did it to see if I could. I'd jump in, hold my arms and legs still (sometimes I'd slip up, obviously, and use my arms or legs for a bit out of habit) but, when I didn't, the best way I found was basically act like a fish. Turn sideways and wiggle like a fish, it sounds dumb but it worked fairly well.
I did the Ranger swim test in OCS. The part where you got pushed off the high dive blindfolded is terrifying. I didn't have my hands and legs bound. I just had to hold the rubber duck and couldn't drop it.
On the matter of securing your weapon, many years ago I was on attachment with a British Army unit on maneuvers. During a meal break an officer instructed a private to run with a message to the command centre. The private dutifully started to run when the officer gave a yell and called him back. The private had left his weapon unattended leaning against a tree - the reaming he received was epic.
What the instructors do is a lot more intentional than what you see at first glance. In example, they don't punk them for not storing the weapon properly. They observe if they do what they have been told and then reward them later if they did something wrong. Also the uniforms are intentionally old outworn uniforms so they focus on the task and not about looking like a fancy sf soldier. They have to prove that they are willing to earn everything. You should watch the documentary of the final product. It shows what they learn! More please!
Fun fact about the frogmen, they pick random guys as leaders in training. Also the frogmen do not show rank on their uniform, if you see a group one could be a captain and another a coporal but they would treat them equal, because they are in the eyes of the frogman corp.
Belgian army does that too for every fighting unit since the very begining of the bootcamp, everyday a recruit is choosed to be what we call "caporal de jour" (day corporal) that gives the activities to the rest of the instruction platoon and is responsible in case of problems of course.
@@MrPyroguy1 muligvis, kan være de har adopteret samme tankegang. Jeg kan huske for nogle år siden hvor der var pressemøde, hvor chefen fra frøerne og chefen for jægerne snakkede. Ham fra jægerne var i den pæne uniform med rang og alt der hører sig til. Chefen fra frøerne stod i militærets grønne sweater. Det var en sjov kontrast.
And you dont need a military background to be a frogman.
The reason they don't wear rank is so if they get captured, the enemy doesn't know if they have a high priority/ important target.
@@MrPyroguy1 yup
That swimmingpool is actually in the same town I live in. The frogmen always come there, the school I went to is located right beside the swimmingpool (we also used it). It was kinda badass seeing all the military vehicles park in front of the swimmingpool as a middleschooler.
Halløj!
@@therugbypost5531 En dansk broder der også ser Anomaly, nice
@Cicero Progontus Det er Asnæs, det ligger i Nordvestsjælland (Odsherreds Kommune)
Tobias Holm Altid:)
Alle svømmehale på Sjælland ligner hinanden😂
Absolutely love the way you make videos man - no long intros, outros, constant pausing, and needless commenting.. It's to the point, relevant, fun, and insightful - yours is one of a few channels I get excited about when a "New video!" notification pops up - appreciate your channel, and the time you invest in making videos .. and being a Dane, this series in particular sparks joy!
Thanks brother. I watch youtube and HATE the long intros, constant plugs and "smash the like button" . I don't get why people think its a good idea. We come here to not see standard sh-t from regular TV.
Agree.
True
He's basically just stealing videos. The commentary part makes it his video and by just pointing a camera at himself and sitting in a chair he's not doing shit.
@@mrscoot595 If you have no other take-away from it than that, I guess it just isn't for you.
The commentary is his part, yes.
It's engaging and relevant commentary, not just some tween reacting with ooh's and ahh's.
Jameson makes it an interesting engagement, raises questions and links to both personal and viewer anecdotes - it adds a welcome feeling of community.
Actually many of these guys no previous military experience, this is the only SF in Denmark that accepts civilians directly.
Nope both do now
@@andreasl.srensen3970 false
In US you get in as a 18x MOS, so basically you come into special forces as a civilian
@@michaelmarkin3499 Yes and no. You still go through 11B basic then airborne and after that Ranger School. Then SF (if you even make it through the rest).
@@CookieClipsNcrumbs I agree. I have friends who were 18x, the 11b training is there if you don’t make it through selection
Fun fact: The Crown Prince of Denmark is a Frogman. Every frogman gets a nickname and his is “Pingo”. He also served as an arctic patrolman.
@Bárður it's likely...very difficult to set a certain type for frogmen - but ... no it does not seem obvious ;)
He's also a trained fighter pilot. He's pretty well trained in all branches of our armed forces.
@Bárður Ja det er virkelig svagt at blive rørt til sit eget bryllup. Respekter vores Kronprins tak.
@@Pow3llMorgan May as well call him Rambo at that point
@@srenslothnielsen4462 Du har fuldstændig ret i at det er ganske normalt er græde til sit eget bryllup :) Men om man vil "respektere vores kronprins" er fuldstændigt op til hver enkel person. Frederik virker som en reel fyr men han har ikke fortjent mere respekt end nogen anden bare fordi han er født ind i et kongehus
It just hit me. There's a couple of faces blurred in the student group, and that must be the guys who made it.
Nice catch! Didn't even notice it.
@@pebblespaddles nah, it is indeed to hide the identity of those who made it.
@@rickifunk5394 it actually isnt. Im a dane myself and if u wanna use material like video, pictures etc with other people in it, they need their permission. Else they will get blurred. Its actually like zack jones said, some people dont do this for the fame. They want to be private about it.
@@Dasperhue2 It actually is. As a dane myself, i were curious and read up it on. From DR themselves -- ”Selve arbejdet med serien har været underlagt strenge sikkerhedshensyn, og vi har derfor også været nødt til at sløre de fleste frømænds ansigter, fordi man af hensyn til deres og landets sikkerhed ikke må kende deres identiteter."
@@rickifunk5394 ok det vidste jeg ikke. Så må det jo så være dem der har slørret ansigt stadig er i tjeneste og dem der ikke er slørret ikke er ?
Actually a lot of these Frogman recruits have no military background and thats why they often don't behave like a proper soldier would (such as drawing the route on the map).
Why would they recruit people that have no training or skills, I can see why they have such a high failure rate if that’s the case
@@bensonhedges479 first of all to have a bigger recruitment size, but also to get different views on things. (They get the basic training before they get to be frogmen recruits.)
The only issue with that is less experienced fighters are not as quick to follow orders and do shit right the first time, if you watch that celebrity commando training, you’ll notice a lot more drama, experienced soldiers just go head first into the games and torture, less trained people hem and haw too much and make it a big deal, the buds trainees just get the suck over with
21st Century Strength Ethos except cultures are very different. They would never make a big deal out of it.
And having civilians come through is seen as a positive thing amongst in the corps, and out of all the SF guys we’ve had only 1 guy has been KIA, Danish SF is no joke!
@@bensonhedges479 Because most of hellweek is torture and breaking down the will. They want the strongest, fittest and most mentally tough people regardless of background. What follows hellweek are years of training.
They're essentially just trying to find extraordinary people and then training them from scratch if possible.
I retired in 2011after 13 years in the teams. I spent my first 7 years in the USMC Recon and Force Recon community. In my twilight tour I was a BUDs instructor in First Phase. The Danish Frogs came out to engage with us in the building of a solid mentoring program to produce better Frogs on both ends. I'm proud to see they're towing the line so well.
I love stories like this.
12:00 Actually, quite uniquely for the Danish Frogmen is that you can apply straight from being a civilian, so to some of these guys this is their first encounter with the military.
Fun fact: The danish frogmen needs NO military experience to join. Even a casual civilian can sign up to be a frogman, and I think that's great.
Chrastian Higgar isn’t that every branch of the US?
@@joeboi1342 Well. I Wouldn't know. But many if not most Special forces out there, does require prior military experience.
Joe Boi no
Chrastian Higgar for navy seals u go thru navy boot camp first ur right
You can join the british SAS reserves as a civvie also
Okay, a short brief on rewards: In the danish armed forces it is stricly forbidden to punish the soldiers in any way, unless a commanding officer has issued a disciplinary punishment according to the military disciplinary law. A work-around is to reward the soldiers instead.
Example: If you forget to lock your locker, you could be issued a 2 kg replica of a key, which you would carry the next day to remind you to lock the f... locker, ie.helping the soldier by rewarding him ;-)
Furthermore it is a way to install the right attitude into the guys, as they have chosen this line of work themselves.
Oh my god that is genius hahaha
That sounds horrible and very effective corrective training. Why don't more NCOs do this?
Marine Corps, forgot to lock your shit? Ncoic gets to test it apart
@@briank8697 If you Do this in the US now it qualifies as hazing.
In the Dutch army it is common that a guy would carry around a huge fire extinguisher if they forget their weapon more than once. That was the definition of having a bad day.
The Reward is what they call it when they do pushups, burpies and "finneslag", which is that waving around with your legs stuff.
Here in the states finneslag is called flutter kicks
Klidthelid thank yoi
Hey boss the time you take to make the videos is appreciated.
thanks brother. i aim to please the viewer. make interesting viewing as a break from normal BS.
@@JamesonsTravels well its because of your insight and honest commentary, also you don't pretend to know stuff, if there is something you don't know or fully understand, you ask the community for answers.
when you get a "reward" in most of the danish army it's the oppsite.. and the reason why they call it a reward, it's because you are not allowed to punish people in the army, when i was in the army as a recruit we got "rewards" in form of static squat for a minute or 20 push-ups or something else..so when you were done with the reward you would say "thank you sergent" :D miss those times ^^
The scene with the map. It's not the patrol leader who fkd up. It's one of the patrolmen. And Jameson Travels. The guy at 12:12 getting chewed is the patrol leader. He is straight from civi street. He only tried our for the first week test and then went on to the course. All his military training was the first 5 weeks basic naval training you showed in previous episode. That's the thing with the Danish frogmen. The will take anyone in, from all branches and even civvies, as long as they show mental aptitude and physical stamina, the will teach them the skill sets.
I feel like that with almost all Special forces or unique units. It's more about mental vs physical. You obviously need a physical to some degree, but almost all of the test are to test how well you can do under stress as well as working with your team, so that in the field, everyone comes back alive
@@alphonsusho8962 Jægerkorpset requires you to attain the rank of sergeant to apply, so not quite.
@@EnjoyCocaColaLight You can attain that after you've been selected. ;)
@@StregAnders I'm fairly certain it's a prerequisite to applying that you have obtained the rank of sergeant.
@@EnjoyCocaColaLight I guess the Jæger I did sergeant school with didn't get the memo :)
Any form of punishment is not allowed in any branch of the Danish Armed Forces, however "rewards" aren't
I’m in the Danish navy, and i love my rewards
Can you refuse the "reward"? Just wondering.
Pantti technically yea you Can, but you wouldn’t be that popular afterwards. The frogmen can’t tho. That’s a completely different world
@@jakobsrensen9960 Thanks for the answer. That was what i tought.
Pantti np
A fun detail is that they're speaking to the recruits in the formal tense. Like Usted in spanish. While they're slacking them off.
There's something lovely and old school about that, cause we don't do that otherwise, anymore.
Only in the military and at dinner with the queen...
That makes it way less scary lol
@@yellowcactustvz4929 Definitely makes it more scary for Danes, as it puts you out of your comfort zone.
@@Thetarget1 I don't exactly know what that form means, but I am imagining it as an italian third person and it makes it less scary rather than more
@@yellowcactustvz4929 no, the opposite, the lack of use of formal, means that usage outside of addressing the royals is akin to being ostracized, like the one being spoken to in the formal is beneath contempt. And here they are trying to very much be a part of an elite group, that now sounds like they wouldn't as much as look at them to save their lives, way way scarier.
In the Danish Royal Guards the “reward” was dragging around heavy tank mine dummies. The more you f*cked up, the more mines 😅
Armour biscuits!
- 3VH, April 2010
"This guy isn't fresh out of bootcamp" fun thing is, he could be. Not sure anymore but back in time you could apply for frogmen without ever even been to bootcamp
I love that idea. You get people who can think differently than the way the military has taught you to think.
My uncle was a forgman, got a picture of the fella holding a sapi plate with three holes where he got luck whilst clearing out compounds against the tailban.
The reward must be happy meals
Edit: I was wrong
LMAO
Amazing thank you
Yup, the reward is pushups, situps, flutterkicks and burpees, 100 each.
And, thay have to say thank you for the reward afterwards, hehe.
With military training, a "reward" is usually a truck load of trouble
The thumbnail looks like a bad graphics game
its a screen shot from the video. I did widen his eyes for fun.
Tbf Denmark is pretty low graphics
I love how he moves his face cam so we can read the subtitles, that's very generous of you man, much love!
12:34 lol love the recruits casual tone.
"That's simply not good enough!"
"Nah".
He just said “No”
“Næh” is more like “Nah”
Sometimes i think those instructors are not right in the head, but i understand its part of the training.
Love that part of it. Meet them normal guys. Training they are working to get guys geared up right.
These instructors will never make anybody do something they haven’t experienced themselves
They're right in the head. The candidates aren't. Marking your route on a map? It's not right in the head to get your whole team killed over something that's common sense.
Its not about being right or wrong in the head. These courses are laid out very thoughtfully, the way the speak and stress the recruits is to prepare them for the stress they will meet when they are done. It never gets personal.
@@Matstarx25 precisely. And we can all sit here and say "I wouldn't have made that mistake." But we don't know until we're in that situation. There are people who are naturally in their head and think twice, quickly, and do things the right way. And there are people who aren't naturally like that. These lessons can get those types of people to pay attention to detail. And for the ones who never come around, they show them the door. It's that simple.
In the danish army, rewards are punishments. The reason they call it rewards is it's rewarding long term, makes you stronger...
My uncle was a Search and Rescue swimmer in the Navy/Coast Guard for 21 years. He said when he went through back in the 80’s they tied their hands and feet together along with a brick then threw them into the pool and said figure it out or drown. He actually had a classmate panic and drown to death from it before the instructors could get him to surface
Initially, it seemed like our taper week just before a swim competition when I was in high school with zip ties, but then they blindfolded the guy and threw his ass in the water from 10 meters up.
What a time.
Keep in mind that Larsen is neither an officer nor an NCO. Not even an experienced soldier. The special thing about the Frogman Corps is that civilian can apply for selection. If they do, they start with 30 days of generel naval bootcamp. Directly followed by 8 months of selection course. At this point, Larsen has about 2-3 months of military experience total!
Love that you got a discord, definitely easier to get in touch with you and your communtiy. Great call!
"You can't have a big hierarchy of idiocy" - Man, I just love J.T. - Best quote I've ever heard on any social media ;-) Keep those videos coming!
The Danish Crown Prince was a frogman. Before that, he was a royal guard in the same company as my dad
😂 Team leader Larsen, is briefing like he's a tour guide 😂
As one who worked as a tourist guide (Barcelona 2004/05)
Can confirm
It wasn't actually the guy who was called slow-witten who was patrol leader, the guy who was patrol leader made it through the entire selection process and the slow-witten guy got dropped due to just being useless. Also the Danish Frogmen actually allow civilians to join and the patrol leader was a civilian.
A great thing about the instructors' language, as addressing the candidates as You in plural. In Danish this is an anachronistic and extremely formal way of speaking to anyone - subordinates or not. The instructors are really laying down the land here.
The swimming one with the zip tie is hard as hell as I've been swimming for 8 years and I've done the training whihh strengthen your legs by swimming around 75m non stop without your hands and only your legs, trust me I know how hard it is
I have experience with the drown proofing. In BUD/S our hands were also behind our backs. That may have changed. I went through it back in 08. Either way, it’s a kick in the balls. Just gotta stay nice and calm. Easier said than done. Hats off to anybody who makes it through this exercise.
I would totally panic lol. Congrats on tackling that.
My Dad put me in a sack when I was a kid and threw me in the river. When I got home, he said he was teaching me to swim. He was a great old man, always thinking of me.
Nah he tried to ki.ll ya
I appreciate how you jump right into it
Implying, that they are "Frogmen", reward seems obvious.
Thanks for the subtitles!
Aim to please the viewers.
@@JamesonsTravels.. I believe the airforce motto is "Aim higher" 😊
Great videos, much appreciated!
The Danish crown prince is a trained frogman.
Except only tactically, he didn't undergo the full physical training like normal frogmen would.
One of recruits are one of my good friends, who I was a sergeant with! He was one tough dude... he didn't make it! By the way, you can tell who made it and who didn't. The guys with their faces blurred made it!
No one of the guys who made it was not blurred. And some of those blurred didn't make it.
Edit: I looked into it because I found it odd that it was like that.
I use to work in that indoor pool as a lifeguard, was always interesting when the frogmen booked it for the day.. It's open to the puplic most of the time, learned how to swim there and did dive with the frogmen a few times as my swimming classes would line up with some of their diving lessons.
One thing missing in the subs : The officers are referring to them, not as "you" but "You" - the most formal way to communicate in danish. "De" instead of "du". You'd never say "du" to the queen for example - always "De" and not "your's" (dine) but "Your's" (Deres)
temmelig uinterresant info - folk sidder nok ikke og ser de her for at faa et dansk-kursus eller se paa danskere snakke om dem selv som er standard hvergang der noget med danmark.
@@mtdrip9523 Og hvem er du til at bestemme, at det er 'temmelig uinteressant info'? Selv som en dansker synes, jeg da, det var ret interessant at høre dem snakke den måde, de gjorde - og det er jeg ikke ét sekund i tvivl om at andre nok er enige med mig i.
@@QuaxRSPS hold nu kaeft der er ingen der gider hoere paa det pis, folk kommer for at se specialstyrker og i dette tilfaelde er det danske saa lad vaere med at tro at folk er pisse interreseret i danskere, klassisk dansk karaktertraek at man tror verdens navle drejer sig omkring en. Hvordan tales der til soldater i resten af verden - fuldstaendig fucking ens.
@@mtdrip9523 "Der er ingen der gider at høre på det pis". Der tager du fejl - DU gider ikke.
Hvem tror du, du er? Lad nu være med at snakke på vegne af alle andre og naivt tro, at de deler samme mening som dig (apropos verdens navle). Han skriver et lille fun fact, som folk kan læse eller lad være med - længere er den ikke. Du kan for helvede se, at hans kommentar har fået likes, så helt uinteressant kan det da ikke have været? Tænk at overtolke i en grad som dette - At du implicerer, at han tror, at Danmark er verdens fokus på det grundlag, at han laver en lille kommentar. Gudherrebevares. Sølle, sørgeligt og kedeligt liv, du lever, at du kan gå så meget op i noget så ligegyldigt. Hvor kedelig verden ikke ville se ud, hvis alle tænkte som dig - at man ikke engang må efterlade en lille 4 linjers kommentar om sit modersprog. Se det her som et wake-up call og prøv at se indad makker. Verden handler ikke om dig og langt de fleste tænker ikke, som De - og gudsketakoglov for det.
To make that idea translate to English, you have to say it's a plurality. You're literally saying "they/them" about everyone, which could be done out of respect, or here, to strip the person of their individuality. Which is actually a tactical decision in the armed forces.
Former sergeant in the Danish army, and we had to do some of the tests we call "Self confidence" tests.
There is ALOT of these tests, and they are all numbered.
One of those we did, was with a hood over our head, had to jump in a lake and swim to shore,
that one really stuck with me, because i can't really swim, but had to suck it up and move on.
Even worse, when not on TV, the instructor will say Ready.
Then you reply "Your name, Number, Ask permission to perform the test"
Instructor will reply "Go ahead, or in some cases wait" and you just wait for well as long as he see fit.
As fare as i remember, anyone (danish citizen) can apply to the Frogman Unit, even civilians - no need for prior military training -- they will teach you what you need to know. "All" you need is the will to see it through, and to be in good shape.
I would freak out completely during the ziptie part to be honest with you
I'm sure the reward is something horrible. Maybe a 40 km hike.
yes if they are lucky
That's not horrible, 40km endurance run maintaining 10km/h pace would be more horrible
One thing you have to note now that there are subtitles, when the instructors talk to them they are always adressing them as "They" or "them" not you, you guys and such. This is a very respectfull way in Danish to talk to someone, it is hardly ever used unless it is to talk to elderly or royals. Or as here frogmen.
The thumbnail has so much sleep deprivation that I feel it
I love how in his thumbnail this guy looks like he respects the hell out of whatever he's seeing, or at the exact same time could actually be completely unimpressed by it.
The reward is really a punishmeant, in this case holding the wepoens in the air. Its called a reward becuase it sucks, so that they never make the mistanke a again. (like Jockos "Good")
Hey I commented on your live stream about this series and how there should be English subtitles. Good job in getting it done. This has been an awesome video. Keep up the good work man.
That part where you tie your hand and jump into the pool looks the same as simulated drowning in indian sf guys
A sidenote for the non-native speakers, the form of address from the instructors to the students is a older formal one called "Des" where people were addressed as "De, Deres, Dem". The opposite is "Dus" which allows "Du, Dig, Dine". In todays Denmark its only used when addressing leaders of state, royalty or in similar formal situations.
My assumption is that its used between instructor and student to further form a distance between them.
Also, if you're curious "you" pretty much encompass the entirety of both Des and Dus.
Respect to those guys.
Perfect, can't wait to see the final video
The frog men aspirants are not always straight out of boot camp. There is a minimum age requirement of 21 and that's basically it. So some of these guys were civilians before this.
Keep these videos going, they’re great to watch !
Watching this episode made me feel all warm, treading water is no joke.
This is part of drown proofing. The WHOLE OBJECTIVE is to stay calm-use your head and think-get ur rhythm and swim.
The one reason that causes people to drown is they panic, stop thinking, stop swimming, and drown. Never never never ever ever ever panic.
Panic causes one to loose focus of breathing. They thrash around and exhaust-thus they drown.
Bro I binged all the frogman videos too fast for the next part 😢
Lovely video.
These guys don't come any tougher. Absolute madmen.
Very nice with the subtitles was hard understanding what they were saying most of the time in the previous episodes.
You did not say impossible, you must be danish.
The way they address the recruits is so formel Danish it almost sounds archaic using plural polite sense when addressing an individual - I quite like it but was very surprised.
5:20 - it's also a common rule that no matter what you're doing, you always keep your weapon within arms lenght in the danish army (im guessing it might be the same for many other militaries), if you cant reach it by maintaining your current form, with a stretched arm, then you're in deep doo doo with your Sergeant :S
Love your videos, much love from a Canadian!
I would have gone crazy, thats why im not in the army 😂
Dont bring maps, yeah one of the lessons learned from WWII, operation market garden, british paras landing behind enemy lines with maps showing among other things drop zones for troops and resupply.
Drawing on a map? He’s lucky he didn’t get thrown out of the course.
He's a civilian strait off the street. The entire reason for the introductory weeks is not to banish people who have no experience with military 101, it's to see who have the potential to LEARN. As the saying goes, the master has failed more times than most people have even tried, failure is not a crime at this point in their training. Failure only becomes a problem when it's systematically repeated.
The frogs are BADASSS !!
What you should notice is that there is no unnecessary shouting like there is in the US military.
Water polo player are chillen 😂
Yeah, it's crazy how the things that US Navy SEALS do in the pool are what swimmers do to warmup.
Ain't the Frog Corps the definition of drowning.
I couldn’t handle getting yelled at in Danish. I’d feel like I was getting screamed at by a Viking
they are speaking pretty soft compared to how hard they could have been, almost no cussing nor degrading, it where like looking at adults scolding kids and nothing more.
True.
Actually they are not yelling that much.😄
when the instructor gives a "reward" its exercise like push up or other things. so getting a reward is actually a "bad" thing
Sorry for my English
love your videos Jameson!!
What I love most about these guys is the zero tolerance for excuses.
Important to note.
They all speak in polite tone. De, dem and deres. The polite and formal form of "you". It is very important, it shows "good form" and respect.
Also kind of prevents you from speaking ill.
i just love when he said øhmmmmmmmmmm
Early squad, let's go!
Great and humble. Thx
I swear I always love your content keep it up
Thanks brother. On it for the viewers.
Alright I’ve seen enough after 3 videos about the frogman, time to subscribe!
The reward is gonna be a hard boiled egg
I used to do something similar with the pool when I was a bit younger.
I didn't tie my hands and arms or anything, nor was it for any military service, I just did it to see if I could.
I'd jump in, hold my arms and legs still (sometimes I'd slip up, obviously, and use my arms or legs for a bit out of habit) but, when I didn't, the best way I found was basically act like a fish.
Turn sideways and wiggle like a fish, it sounds dumb but it worked fairly well.
Danish sergant: hvor er dit våben?
Soldier: jeg glemte den i svømmehallen
The instructors are so calm, not very loud
Guy on the thumb looks like woody from toy story
I did the Ranger swim test in OCS. The part where you got pushed off the high dive blindfolded is terrifying. I didn't have my hands and legs bound. I just had to hold the rubber duck and couldn't drop it.
Even their camo looks like frog skin
Your comment ironically just taught me how they got the name Frogman. Never occurred to me its because they look like frogs. I feel dumb 🤣
On the matter of securing your weapon, many years ago I was on attachment with a British Army unit on maneuvers. During a meal break an officer instructed a private to run with a message to the command centre. The private dutifully started to run when the officer gave a yell and called him back. The private had left his weapon unattended leaning against a tree - the reaming he received was epic.
reward: 25km trip with full gear
I discovered your channel last week an I love it, could you do a Marine reacts to Corpsman video?
I mellem tiden, Lars: øøhhhhmm øhh :D stakkels fyr haha
han var helt klart ikke leder materiale, karakter for fremlæggelse og lederskab: 03
I enjoy your commentaries.
im a danish frogmen but Training Almost died
some of the best video on selection i have watched. did not have BS or unneeded drama.
Love this mini series, you deserve a massive sub :)
What the instructors do is a lot more intentional than what you see at first glance. In example, they don't punk them for not storing the weapon properly. They observe if they do what they have been told and then reward them later if they did something wrong. Also the uniforms are intentionally old outworn uniforms so they focus on the task and not about looking like a fancy sf soldier. They have to prove that they are willing to earn everything.
You should watch the documentary of the final product. It shows what they learn!
More please!