Melbourne's metro train network is the largest in the southern hemisphere. Its also the oldest dating to 1854. There are people who try to beat the record for travelling on all of Melbourne's lines in one day, there are 18 of them.
Great video @tressteleg1! I studied at RMIT for one year and exams were held at the Showgrounds so I used to catch the train from Flinders St to there. As far as I can remember, the trip was not so slow. On the way back to the city, timetables didn't help and I remember catching the tram instead, sometimes a altered route 57 service that skipped North Melbourne, on a B2 class tram (rather than the Zs that were commonplace on the route at that time).
Interesting. I expect that this journey was slower than usual because it was in the end of the morning peak hour. Also in past years there may have been less trains operating on most lines making it easier to squeeze in an unplanned racecourse train. Trams are certainly likely to operate more often.
Thanks, really enjoyed the video. I always wondered how the signals worked. Now at least I have some idea. I used to live in Footscray and work in King Street,so I used Flagstaff Station. It’s a great service.
I’m pleased you liked it. If you want to learn a bit more about the signals, this little video, I help you. Melbourne Train Signals Explained I Hope! th-cam.com/video/U9VM3fkJ6Bg/w-d-xo.html
Nice to see a train video that probably portrays the job realistically. Still very interesting, though. Keep on giving us the info re signals, etc. For us armchair train drivers it's great fun.
It’s nice that you liked my editing style. You will find a lot more like that below Driver's View Trains Melbourne th-cam.com/play/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH.html
This is the best I have at this stage. Maybe one day our driver can do other train types. Stabling Procedure, Comeng Train th-cam.com/video/_wK3YBrquog/w-d-xo.html
This line was originally used for the transportation of cattle and sheep to the nearby abatoirs in Newmarket. I used to ride my bike to work and would often have to wait whilst the animals crossed Racecourse Rd
I miss the old Hitachi trains. Yeah they had no air con, and they stank sometimes, but I liked them. They looked pretty cool too, especially coming in to the station
@@peterausfranken Yes. They all had character. By the way, Victoria has now had 14 days with no community transmission of Covid and New South Wales has had five so that means nationwide there have been no new cases for five days at least. Too bad about Europe and other countries.
@@tressteleg1 Yes we have in germany about 140 000 Covid positive per week (83 Million people) and in europe there are over 1.3 Million per week. Countries like France Spain and the UK have the most. Here in germany we have a art of Lockdown light. Since the 1 of November all the cafes and restaurants are closed. Australia is a island so they can control it much better than here in europe
Compared with us and NZ, all countries are terrible. Partial lockdowns are almost certainly a total waste of time. Being an island is easier so I don’t know how Europe can overcome it unless absolutely every country closed borders to all but freight and lockdown nearly all social movements.
Phew, that was a very slow journey: in my time in Melbourne, even the W2 trams did the job quicker! By the way, can anybody explain why the Comeng units (and possibly others) need both pantographs raised when, anywhere else in the world, electric units operate with only one pantograph per unit. Do the units supplied to Victoria need a bigger power supply, thereby needing two pantographs to cope with the power flow, or something like that? It’ll be interesting to find out!!
Most Melbourne train lines have always been a sedate amble along. Don’t ask me why. As for pantographs, each power car has its own pantograph which avoids the need for passing heavy currents from one power car through the trailer to the next power car. Nothing unusual about that.
Why didnt the return journey stop at North Melbourne or Southern Cross?? Also what was the trip for because not many trains stop at both Showgrounds and Racecourse
I also wondered that and thought of the one or two people who got on at Showgrounds on the way into town. I can only expect that it was an empty cars run running “express” (at least in theory!) back to Flinders Street to bring another load to the Racecourse.
Yes, Sydney has them too. Pretty foolproof, unlike some systems where the driver just has to press a button and can continue to drive a train how he likes, apparently.
As there was another train on the line, I can only assume that there was a race meeting or some other important event there sometime that day. It certainly was not a driver training run.
I have no idea of exactly what style of Comeng we were on, but to most viewers this was just a Comeng, not a Siemens or XTrap. I can only tell by the sounds.
As part of their training, drivers must learn the Normal Speed for longer sections of track on each line, but where there is a slower curve or junction, you will see a yellow plate with a < shape pointing out one side, and the black numbers are the speed in Kilometres per hour.
De terminologie van "Rapid Transit" is een verduistering van het woord. Als je trein langzamer was gegaan, zou hij gestopt zijn. Het transitsysteem van Melbourne moet worden verbeterd.
I noticed that too. I wondered whether the racecourse train was not provided for in the timetable, so had to be squeezed in between all the other peak hour services.
I hate these ugly trains. I always prefered the Comengs. I also loved the Harris trains. The HTC trains look great however the best ever trains in Melbourne are the Comengs hands down!
Modern trains to me are rather ordinary things. As for the Comeng trains, my driver tells me that they have the best ergonomics- comfort and ease of operation. We will have to see about the HCMT trains, but for ages there were problems due to a stupid part of the door opening sequence design. And their capacity is up because of reduced seating.
@@tressteleg1 Ok, that's good to hear about the driver feedback (Comeng). The reason I love them is because when I first rode on one on the Belgrave line in 1983 I could tell they were so much quieter, smoother and way more comfortable than the Hitachi trains. I liked the destination display being on the lower right window too.
I don’t know what it was about that Hitachis, but I always thought of them as being tin boxes. Maybe whichever government ordered them had them built on the cheap. I never bothered much taking a video of them as they seemed to lack all appeal. As you say, Comeng trains were clearly better.
@@tressteleg1 hmmmmm, not sure where you're based? I've loved the hitachi, harris & tait red rattlers. They are better than anything else in Australia. Although I thought the Adelaide Super cab 3000 class metro trains were great. I've heard Perth's train network is good but nothing else in the sothern hemisphere matches Melbourne's metro network or Victoria's rural network. I was supposed to be a train driver when I left Technical School however I failed required subjects.
@@garynewton1263 I grew up in Sydney, was a Melbourne tram driver 1988 to 1994, now live on the Gold Coast and have ridden on many different tramways and some railways overseas. Most rail fans tend to see their own local systems through rose coloured glasses. As I saw it, Taits were old-fashioned looking even when first built, the sort of thing that is so ugly you have to love it. Sydney’s similar era trains were not particularly outdated looking when replaced in 1992. I thought the Harris trains were rather smart looking and more modern inside compared with anything in Sydney. I don’t know what it was about the Hitachis, they sort of had a hollow resonating sound inside. I think those Adelaide 3000s were called the jumbos. I took a long-ish ride on one, and thought they were slow and underpowered and took forever to get going. Their new electric trains are quite up to standard. Perth’s rail system runs like clockwork and even though they don’t have all that many lines, it is an efficient operation. Combined with good bus interchanges, it generally is considered Australia’s best run public transport network. Melbourne Metro of course is only a trade name for its electrified suburban railway. Most certainly is not a Metro in the same sense as those in Paris, London, New York etc. I recently saw a chart, and Sydney’s rail passenger numbers are very considerably greater than Melbourne, or at least were, pre-Covid. Your Tram system of course is far better than the buses in Sydney and anywhere else, but the Gold Coast and Canberra tramlines give a far quicker ride than anything in Melbourne.
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Thanks from another armchair train enthusiast living in Canada , great to read all the info of what the driver sees, keep up the great work 🇨🇦
If you are stuck for something to do, there is a heap more!
Driver's View Trains Melbourne
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Cheers will do .
Melbourne's metro train network is the largest in the southern hemisphere. Its also the oldest dating to 1854.
There are people who try to beat the record for travelling on all of Melbourne's lines in one day, there are 18 of them.
yeah i dont think anyone could travel on each line during daylight anyway @@garynewton1263
Wow that would be a big day/night@@garynewton1263
Great video @tressteleg1! I studied at RMIT for one year and exams were held at the Showgrounds so I used to catch the train from Flinders St to there. As far as I can remember, the trip was not so slow.
On the way back to the city, timetables didn't help and I remember catching the tram instead, sometimes a altered route 57 service that skipped North Melbourne, on a B2 class tram (rather than the Zs that were commonplace on the route at that time).
Interesting. I expect that this journey was slower than usual because it was in the end of the morning peak hour. Also in past years there may have been less trains operating on most lines making it easier to squeeze in an unplanned racecourse train. Trams are certainly likely to operate more often.
I have been on the Flemington Racecourse line before and it was amazing! Thank you!
Thanks, really enjoyed the video. I always wondered how the signals worked. Now at least I have some idea. I used to live in Footscray and work in King Street,so I used Flagstaff Station. It’s a great service.
I’m pleased you liked it. If you want to learn a bit more about the signals, this little video, I help you.
Melbourne Train Signals Explained I Hope!
th-cam.com/video/U9VM3fkJ6Bg/w-d-xo.html
It's a great video! Thank you for sharing. Have a nice weekend!
😊 Enjoy your weekend too!
I just can't get over how slow the journey is - you could almost walk faster!
Nice to see a train video that probably portrays the job realistically. Still very interesting, though. Keep on giving us the info re signals, etc. For us armchair train drivers it's great fun.
It’s nice that you liked my editing style. You will find a lot more like that below
Driver's View Trains Melbourne
th-cam.com/play/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH.html
I love trains!But I wish I could see inside the cab like your Gold Coast tram video
🎉
This is the best I have at this stage. Maybe one day our driver can do other train types.
Stabling Procedure, Comeng Train
th-cam.com/video/_wK3YBrquog/w-d-xo.html
@@tressteleg1 Thanks for replying.I hope you have a great year.
@@cassandrabatley3552 Thanks, and same to you 😊
Thank you!
Great video I can't wait to travel to the city again.
Goodness Me! You sure watched that in record fast time! The trip takes 45 minutes!! 😊
@@tressteleg1 Yes I enjoy your videos. I have nothing else too do.
If you look anything like your thumbnail photo, that’s very difficult to believe!!! 😊
@@tressteleg1 You're to kind I'll be going to the city soon I want some fun.
If you don’t get all the fun you want, there is something wrong with Melbourne‘s males!! Oh, that’s right. There are all more interested in footy.
This line was originally used for the transportation of cattle and sheep to the nearby
abatoirs in Newmarket. I used to ride my bike to work and would often have to wait whilst
the animals crossed Racecourse Rd
Probably no cattle trains any more. I think QR is the only railway to have them now.
@@tressteleg1 You are right the abatoirs closed many years ago and now the
area is housing
😊👍
I miss the old Hitachi trains. Yeah they had no air con, and they stank sometimes, but I liked them. They looked pretty cool too, especially coming in to the station
The least appealing train that Melbourne ever produced, in my opinion. Tin boxes on wheels.
I lived the Red Rattlers and the Harris trains👍
@@peterausfranken Yes. They all had character. By the way, Victoria has now had 14 days with no community transmission of Covid and New South Wales has had five so that means nationwide there have been no new cases for five days at least. Too bad about Europe and other countries.
@@tressteleg1 Yes we have in germany about 140 000 Covid positive per week (83 Million people) and in europe there are over 1.3 Million per week. Countries like France Spain and the UK have the most. Here in germany we have a art of Lockdown light. Since the 1 of November all the cafes and restaurants are closed.
Australia is a island so they can control it much better than here in europe
Compared with us and NZ, all countries are terrible. Partial lockdowns are almost certainly a total waste of time. Being an island is easier so I don’t know how Europe can overcome it unless absolutely every country closed borders to all but freight and lockdown nearly all social movements.
Phew, that was a very slow journey: in my time in Melbourne, even the W2 trams did the job quicker!
By the way, can anybody explain why the Comeng units (and possibly others) need both pantographs raised when, anywhere else in the world, electric units operate with only one pantograph per unit. Do the units supplied to Victoria need a bigger power supply, thereby needing two pantographs to cope with the power flow, or something like that? It’ll be interesting to find out!!
Most Melbourne train lines have always been a sedate amble along. Don’t ask me why. As for pantographs, each power car has its own pantograph which avoids the need for passing heavy currents from one power car through the trailer to the next power car. Nothing unusual about that.
Awesome video at 40:46 that's six Comeng trains wow that's my favourite trains ever great job 😊👍
I prefer them too. Hopefully the government won’t have enough money to replace them for a long time yet.
tressteleg1 I hope not because these Comeng trains is the oldest trains but it's good thing that they are still running on those lines.
The train horn reminds me of an elephant trumpeting.lol
I think the driver may have been playing with the whistle.
Why didnt the return journey stop at North Melbourne or Southern Cross?? Also what was the trip for because not many trains stop at both Showgrounds and Racecourse
I also wondered that and thought of the one or two people who got on at Showgrounds on the way into town. I can only expect that it was an empty cars run running “express” (at least in theory!) back to Flinders Street to bring another load to the Racecourse.
at 17:40 there are lights before a bridge. are these signals or what are they for?
Great video. Greetings from Brazil!
Thanks and Welcome!
Takes me back to going to the show, and the Supanova.
Or for some, exams, or soundwave, or whatever.
Bloody slow!
😊. It certainly was incredibly slow.
i see the signals have trip stops. just like the NYC subway or London Underground
Yes, Sydney has them too. Pretty foolproof, unlike some systems where the driver just has to press a button and can continue to drive a train how he likes, apparently.
Notice that Victoria has old unused signal boxes that could improve esetics
I don’t know what’s worse. Leaving them boarded up and derelict, or removing them altogether.
The signal box @ Flemington appears to be decommissioned.
Possibly. Overall there is a general trend to close smaller signal boxes and control their functions from a much larger central location.
why was the train going to Flemington Racecourse Station?
As there was another train on the line, I can only assume that there was a race meeting or some other important event there sometime that day. It certainly was not a driver training run.
23:02 what is that locomotive?
@@kinkisharyocoasters Sorry I missed it earlier. It is a privately owned freight loco owned by “Southern Shorthaul Railroad” or something like that.
0:56 so an Mtrain Comeng??
I have no idea of exactly what style of Comeng we were on, but to most viewers this was just a Comeng, not a Siemens or XTrap. I can only tell by the sounds.
Is there a speed restriction?
As part of their training, drivers must learn the Normal Speed for longer sections of track on each line, but where there is a slower curve or junction, you will see a yellow plate with a < shape pointing out one side, and the black numbers are the speed in Kilometres per hour.
@@tressteleg1 Okay. I understand
Where was that vline came from 0:54
I have no idea. You could probably guess better than me.
12:54 he waved
They do from time to time.
De terminologie van "Rapid Transit" is een verduistering van het woord. Als je trein langzamer was gegaan, zou hij gestopt zijn. Het transitsysteem van Melbourne moet worden verbeterd.
40:40 so many comeng sets 😮
Make the most of them as they are disappearing as new uninteresting trains replace them.
That is a lot of slowing down and/or stopping.
I noticed that too. I wondered whether the racecourse train was not provided for in the timetable, so had to be squeezed in between all the other peak hour services.
Wow - one slow line! - nice vid tho
😊👍
I hate these ugly trains. I always prefered the Comengs. I also loved the Harris trains. The HTC trains look great however the best ever trains in Melbourne are the Comengs hands down!
Modern trains to me are rather ordinary things. As for the Comeng trains, my driver tells me that they have the best ergonomics- comfort and ease of operation. We will have to see about the HCMT trains, but for ages there were problems due to a stupid part of the door opening sequence design. And their capacity is up because of reduced seating.
@@tressteleg1 Ok, that's good to hear about the driver feedback (Comeng). The reason I love them is because when I first rode on one on the Belgrave line in 1983 I could tell they were so much quieter, smoother and way more comfortable than the Hitachi trains.
I liked the destination display being on the lower right window too.
I don’t know what it was about that Hitachis, but I always thought of them as being tin boxes. Maybe whichever government ordered them had them built on the cheap. I never bothered much taking a video of them as they seemed to lack all appeal. As you say, Comeng trains were clearly better.
@@tressteleg1 hmmmmm, not sure where you're based? I've loved the hitachi, harris & tait red rattlers. They are better than anything else in Australia. Although I thought the Adelaide Super cab 3000 class metro trains were great.
I've heard Perth's train network is good but nothing else in the sothern hemisphere matches Melbourne's metro network or Victoria's rural network.
I was supposed to be a train driver when I left Technical School however I failed required subjects.
@@garynewton1263 I grew up in Sydney, was a Melbourne tram driver 1988 to 1994, now live on the Gold Coast and have ridden on many different tramways and some railways overseas. Most rail fans tend to see their own local systems through rose coloured glasses. As I saw it, Taits were old-fashioned looking even when first built, the sort of thing that is so ugly you have to love it. Sydney’s similar era trains were not particularly outdated looking when replaced in 1992. I thought the Harris trains were rather smart looking and more modern inside compared with anything in Sydney. I don’t know what it was about the Hitachis, they sort of had a hollow resonating sound inside. I think those Adelaide 3000s were called the jumbos. I took a long-ish ride on one, and thought they were slow and underpowered and took forever to get going. Their new electric trains are quite up to standard. Perth’s rail system runs like clockwork and even though they don’t have all that many lines, it is an efficient operation. Combined with good bus interchanges, it generally is considered Australia’s best run public transport network.
Melbourne Metro of course is only a trade name for its electrified suburban railway. Most certainly is not a Metro in the same sense as those in Paris, London, New York etc. I recently saw a chart, and Sydney’s rail passenger numbers are very considerably greater than Melbourne, or at least were, pre-Covid. Your Tram system of course is far better than the buses in Sydney and anywhere else, but the Gold Coast and Canberra tramlines give a far quicker ride than anything in Melbourne.