Trident Unboxing, Setup and First Impressions
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2019
- Here is a video unboxing of a new Neptune Trident system for testing alkalinity, calcium and magnesium. I do a quick overview of the setup process and share my thoughts on the accuracy of the product. I also express some concerns about availability of testing reagents.
Great video. We have already solved the reagent leaking issue a couple of weeks back. We have a handle on the calibration solution leakage problem and it should be solved very soon. As for Canada, it is unfortunate that there is so much red tape and fees between our friendly countries - certainly not the promise of NAFTA, eh? That said, we will soon have distribution of reagents solved such that you should be able to buy them at LFS in Canada. Look for this in the next couple of months.
Thanks Neptune; glad to see the progress on leaky reagents. looking forward to seeing the reagents at LFS in Canada - that would be great. Its been less than a week and I am really enjoying the data pouring out of the trident. its opening up a portal to your tank that you just don't get by testing once weekly
Have been waiting for 2 months for my local store to have the trident in stock, they say they have no price or know when this will be available
I am in Spain
Thank you for the information!
And for your responses to the comments.
No - the minimum you can do is 4 alk tests and 2 ca/mag tests per day.
Nice video glad to see videos starting to go up on this... would love one but I’ll wait when the rush is over
and when the reagents stop being 'leaky' :) .... thanks for the feedback!
hi, excellent video, for people that travel, it is obviously essential without a doubt to allow you to be away from home for and come back knowing all is good.
hakan ozdemir thanks Hakan
just a quick update guys - after calibration, my the trident is giving numbers that are very comparable to that of my salifert / hanna tests
Ive found it necessary to calibrate the trident every time I open a new box of reagent. I think you'll be suprised at the difference after you calibrate. This fluctuation has really made me see the necessity in sending it back to Neptune Systems for an "update" after a year or two. Congrats on your Trident. I got mine at midnight on the first release. I was number 86 LOL
Merci, j achèteras pas ça au prix du reagent
Now all we have to do is wait until a manufacturer makes a copycat system which sells for half this price.
Très intéressant, merci !!! 👍👍👍
thanks Guy
Nice video! I spoke with Lou Ekus from Tropic Marin about the correlation of alk, calcium and magnesium. He explained it as a triangle. Whereas if the alkalinity is rising it will suppress the calcium. And vice versa. Can’t remember how exactly magnesium fits into the puzzle. If you call him at Tropic Marin USA he usually answers the phone. I really enjoy your videos. Especially the scientific data you’ve presented. Thanks !
thanks KC... will have to read up more on the topic!
Hi many thanks for the info still not sure 🤔 😀👍🏴
It’s nice to have it not essential
Depending on what part of Canada get a US mailbox address there’s TH-cams from Canada that have US mail box. Nice informative video thanks for the info.
Yeah, thought about the US mailbox ... but it would be just so nice if i can pick up the reagents locally like i do everything else... cheers Charols
I noticed that you have your Trident on the floor next to the stand, below the sump waterline. Any issues in its operation? Everything I’ve read on the forums suggests that you’re supposed to place the unit above the water level of the sump or wherever it is that you’re drawing your test water sample from.
very interesting. that is actually not mentioned in the installation video from neptune; th-cam.com/video/4OOfuXuBt5Y/w-d-xo.html they actually place the unit on the floor of the cabinet beside the sump. the do warn here that the sample intake line shouldn't be 2 feet above the trident th-cam.com/video/FAIbhaEsGpI/w-d-xo.html ; but yes, safer if trident is above sample line. i will look into getting a cabinet or a table that i can place it on.
Thanks for the reply... I read that above the water level thing in one of th3 big Trident threads over on R2R.
@@SuperLQT will have to check it out
i wont get one too much money for the reagents in my book, and it needs more control ability on how many test it does daily, but thanks for the information, good video!
thanks Roger
Don't you run chaetomorpha in the sump with an opposite light cycle to actual daylight? It would be interesting to know if the chaeto is having any impact on the results you're seeing.
Rob McGrath yep... I wonder ?
It looks like we can buy two sets now. If you try to buy more, there is an error at checkout. Thanks for the video.
yep, you can get the reagents in Canada now! yay!!!
Nice video, can you kindly let me know what kit thet trident is closest to after a few tests. Hanna or Salifert ;)
will do! will redo the comparisons after i calibrate the machine
hope it works well for you id like to have a neptune but its not in the budget lol
Byron Waite thanks Byron.
The only BIG thing I didn't like about the trident was the amount of testing it does each day. 4 times and you cant change it to lower in able to save on the reagent. Why Neptune? I want to be able to test 3 to 4 times a week and not 28 times a week. $$$$
they mention that this is related to lifespan of their reagents; there may be some truth to that, but it could just be a ploy to sell more reagents. I think testing a couple of times a day is helpful if you want to inform your daily dosing though, so i don't mind the 4 times a day testing - but then again, i do love my data and charts :)
If test just 4 times a week I would just do it by hand and save my money.
Does the trident need additional dosing pumps to take its readings
Jason St. John nope
Thank you for sharing. What do you think is it still make sance to buy Trident today or maybe better to wait to a new generation? Thanks
If there is a new single unit they would test Alk, ca, nitrates and phosphates, that would be certainly worth the wait. Trident has some pros and cons, but I am still
Happy with its performance
@@TheBioReef it is good to know! How about head device, do they planning to update it as well? Thank you!
@@vladimirr7653 not sure. Haven’t heard anything
Do i still have to add alk, calcium and magnesium? or this machine will take care of this?
Mohamed Alnuaimi this machine only tests the water, you still have to add alk, calcium and magnesium depending on your tank’s consumption
Further to the other reply, you can set your doser that is connected to the apex to automatically dose on the figures you define from the trident, so it makes it seemless
But what is the error rate for the Trident? Hanna is plus or minus five percent either way. If I see a whacko reading on the Hanna Alk test I go to my Nyos test to confirm as close as I can.
Neptune says: Alkalinity: +/- 0.05 dKH
Calcium: +/- 15 ppm
Magnesium: +/- 15 ppm
the margin of error is pretty small on the alk side
That’s very precise if true, because five percent is a lot, sometimes a half dkh.
And I thought you were Dutch!
yep - in theory, better than Hanna Alk if these numbers are true
hahaha, its funny, many people think i am from the EU [i get french a lot]
👊👍
Thanks Rico! Wow, can’t believe you watch my channel :) ps I met you briefly at the Niagara coral show a few month back... asked for a selfie :)
I watch 👀😜👊👍
Rico's Aquariums sweet :)
so wait you can set this up to test just once a week it has to be 4 times a day?
Nope has to test at least 4 times Alk per day
@@TheBioReef
Thank you for your response I find that pretty stupid I’d rather have it test once a week as I manually test but let the machine do it
@@jacomee27 I see you point although I find the daily testing to be helpful for automatic dosing of 2 part. I think twice a day would be super.
@@TheBioReef
Yea I agree 2 a day would ok however I feel like u should be able to set it for as many times as you want and the fact that they make u do a min of 4 seems like they just want to sell reagent faster
@@jacomee27 yeah... there may be some limitations on how long the reagents can stay fresh for accurate testing. The limits of testing is 4 for Alk and 2 for mg and ca. The 2 month reagent kit is meant to last doe 2 month if you do the min 4 Alk and 2 ca/mg tests. I have trident controlled dosing - one of the biggest incentives for me to get the trident. So I don’t mind the extra testing as in theory that helps enhance my Alk stability. I think the alkatronic or GHL khl director may allow you fewer tests per day / give them a look
Funny that elsewhere there is so much emphasis on quiet equipment ... and this thing makes a racket.
yeah, its not silent for sure. i think this will be a bother if you are testing often.
To be fair, it really isn’t that bad, especially if you have it setup in a room that You don’t spend a lot of time in. It probably would be significantly negligible if kept in a cabinet. I have mine on top of a cabinet next to my tank and it’s really not bothersome.
Greego it’s something that you can learn to ignore
@@TheBioReef I ignored it right away. It took no learning at all. Haha. I just look it as hearing my investment going to work. Doesn't bother me at all.
I can't wait until people start the 3, 6, 9 and 12 month trident updates
will def'n post updates .. with an investment this big, you would hope it would preform well for a couple of years!
@@TheBioReef I'm sure it will be fantastic. I know someone will have issues because Murphy's law. I love that you notice small things with your tank like no will be home and the lower co2 will affect things because of the ph.... I don't think about that
thanks Gabes
After I first set up my reef thank, I used to wonder why the pH in my tank would drastically decrease during the evening of my huge Superbowl and holiday parties.
@@Greego it's a real thing, just tell people no breathing in the house
How wide is the unit ?
about 5 to 6" wide at the front
AmroAzul TV
Are you. Still liking the unit ?
no power adapter inside?
no
Tape or velcro you camera to a stick in the ground.
For such an expensive piece of equipment the packaging is very disappointing... I mean that rat nest of tubing why not put it in a spindle or something?
Plus it at 1:27 it seems that the cables are just duct taped...
Okay people, for U haters out there who just love to complain, go to Mr. Saltwater tank and watch the automation video before U shoot your mouth off. I'm looking forward to Trident, one less time consuming thing I have to do and I can put that time to other good tank uses.
Daniel Mancini no haters here. Just an honest review and sharing my opinions on things that were done well and things that could have been improved
Just got my set.
And was quite disappointed.
how come ?
@@TheBioReef Well, it didn't come with the Orange Energy Bar.. it comes with a Black 6 Bar and I was told that 6 Bars is for UK version... And the orange one that is 8, is only available in US which is 110v.
It totally ruined the look of the set.
Secondly, I though triton was a controller, turned out to be just a monitor. And its look like I'll be having issue with reagents supply.
Thirdly.. this system of mine is old. Everything was tweak. Skimmer has Float switch to control water level. It also has timer that is offset with feeding... Refugium... reactor, everything has been modified. Phyto system is also adding to constantly cultivate Phyto and inject into the system. Since I share all of my reactors with same return pump, water from reactor are directed into sock filter to collect any escape medias. I added a venturi injector chamber, so that all dosing will go straight into the main tank without overlasp with reactor and go back to skimmer.
Energy bar don't really give me what I needed. The reason I get it was because I think it can tells me when something not working...
BUT... My hope is ruined as well.
My tank is 4 meter long, and all electrical wiring is one side of side that is completely full. Not an inch of space left.
So Neptune was installed on the other side, of the tank, as cable of engergy is too short, it cannot reach the other side of tank. I try to USB extension.. it keep shutting off as cable was too long. So I do not have anything plug into engergy bar.
Just learned that I wasted $4000+ for not much of anything.
@@austinjt4264 sorry to hear that... can you return it, or perhaps resell it and make up for the losses ?
That shipping sucks for sure!! No just for u Canadians!!
Giving only pain in the ass. Measurements not consistent and giving you headache only. For me its waste of money and you cant be sure it's working properly. Tasting kg with salifert every other day and ca once a week its not such a problem at all. Definitely wouldn't put my dosing pump on dosing schedule according to this machine.
Is this based on personal experience with a trident Lukasz?
No with kh director😊 I'm using profilux to many things but measuring kh didn't convince me. I understand that kh can be very from morning and afternoon but it makes me thinking constantly what is my kh now. I'm measuring now once every two three days. It takes me 5 min and keep tune with the tank if you know what I mean😊 by the way great channel. Greetings
@@kosiarek84 I am wondering if a large refugium with alternating light cycle will keep the tank more stable at "night" ...
Being held to the Trident's 4/D schedule with the reagent price/availability is sortof counterproductive to a tank's low maintenance and stability.
If the demand suddenly spikes within that short 2-month window,
-the reagent prices will become ludicrous on eBay...
I'm probably still gonna get one, though :P
You are treated like a 2nd class Citizen from Your Government red tape, not Apex
goldslinger Totally agree with you. I enjoy his videos, but that comment was not called for. He might want to speak to Justin Trudeau.
That is an odd way of looking at things; It was Apex’s decision to not supply LFS with reagents, to charge $40 for shipping and to limit each customer to 1 kit; they could have simply distributed the reagents directly to stores just like salifert and Redsea kits do... put it another way, I can get every single testing kit out there in Canada, purchased locally, except for Trident. This is an apex decision, not Canada’s.
Brett'sReef That is an odd way of looking at things; It was Apex’s decision to not supply LFS with reagents, to charge $40 for shipping and to limit each customer to 1 kit; they could have simply distributed the reagents directly to stores just like salifert and Redsea kits do... put it another way, I can get every single testing kit out there in Canada, purchased locally, except for Trident. This is an apex decision, not Canada’s.
@@TheBioReef 2nd class Citizen though, really? Give a company chance, hell they just released it. Don't feel like you are entitled.
look Brett - this is just how I feel. they released a product without thinking of the logistics. I am calling them up on it. When you spend that kind of money on a product, you expect more. Imagine you went and purchased a new Benz only to realize that you can't buy the gas for it locally. would you be happy with that ?
asian dude....
20:13 you are not a second class citizen.... your not a citizen at all! USA!USA!USA! Gotta look out for your fellow countrymen! YEAH BABY! 🇺🇸
:)