I think there was a sci-fi anthology show from the 2000's about a scientist who does that exact thing. He gets fatally stabbed and uses his own tech, and has a ticking clock to figure out who killed him before he actually died. It was the Other side, or something I can't remember the name of it for the life of me.
Something kind of similar happened to Emperor Palpatine in the EU, except it wasn't cryogenics. He kept cloning himself and transferring the essence but his soul was so wicked and dark that the new bodies would immediately start rotting away every time. It was a very unnatural technique and he was trying to cheat death to hold onto his power, but the Force itself was trying to reject this.
That's why they use cryopreservatives now. Vitrification in particular. By injecting thr body with anti-freeze right after death, they hope to reduce ice crystal formation to a manageable level in the future.
I'm an engineer working with a cryogenic cooling research company, and because of these geezers, I now have to always say "No, not the corpses one" when people ask...
@@HungerGamesFan00for space exploration maybe? Outer space is like -450 F/ -270 C. So it would make sense to study how man-made materials react to such extreme conditions.
@@HungerGamesFan00 Quantum Computers (and other quantum research), superconductors and magnets, and many advanced detectors (like those found in IR Astronomy equipment or used to monitor fibre optic equipment) need cooling varying from LN2 to close to absolute zero, either to operate at all or cut out the noise that comes with higher temperatures.
@SoulDelSol Pretty sure it would just be like a blackout. Worst case scenario it's a series of vivid dreams that drive you insane before it shuts down. Or maybe they come on the reboot.
@@SoulDelSol What if you die but your soul is still stuck inside your brain, so you can't move, can't talk, don't actually live, but when they burn you, you feel everything before you're surrounded by complete void, nothing is visible, you can't hear anything at all yet you exist and continue to exist in an anxiety inducing forever-hell. Your soul is searching for your body, you're trying to wake up from a dream but only this time you have no body to wake up to, you don't actually exist anymore, yet you understand that you do indeed exist because the sharp pain you knew it life as anxiety still continues to beat inside your now massless-non-existant heart. You pray, but no one answers. You're stuck in time, staring back into the what-was, the dim flicker of humanity long since extinguished. How much time has passed? A day? A month? Three hundred billion years?
I remember my dad telling me a story about my Grandfather, and how when he was a kid, his family would sometimes spend the winter at a farm in Alberta, Canada owned by my Grandpas Uncle, Jack. Anyways, the winters up their were brutal. They would have a rope running from the house to the barn so that you didn't get lost in the 3-foot visibility caused by the snow. One fateful winter, uncle jack would pass away. Now you can't exactly dig a six-foot deep hole in the rock solid, snow covered ground in the middle of January. So they wrapped him up in a old carpet, and stuck him in the hay loft in the barn, where he lay frozen until spring, when they buried him at the family cemetery, where he lies to this day. I have heard that this was pretty common back in the day for anyone who died in the winter in Alberta or any other place of a similarly northern latitude. RIP Great-Great Uncle Jack.
Heard about one guy who got cryogenically frozen for a thousand years and is best friends with a robot and is dating a one eyed sewer mutant so they don't all end badly.
Yeah but people dont think like that i guess. People hate the feeling of being left out. Being frozen is so that you can be thawed and rejoin society. Freezing is not about being Remembered or even Loved. Its about surviving longer than you are meant to
A friend of mine had a goldfish when his area was left without power for 3 weeks in the deep of winter -- the ice storm that hit Eastern Canada in 1998. When he returned he assumed that the goldfish was dead, but once the water was warmed up sufficiently the goldfish came back to life, doing goldfish things. 6 months later he gave the goldfish to another friend who overfed it, and it died.
My parents went outta town for four days and the power went out due to a snowstorm. Their aquarium froze and when it thawed the fish weren’t quite… the same…
@@ThestuffthatSaralikesif they had tropical fresh water fresh, their not made for it. Cold, fresh water pond fish generally can withstand "some" freezing, like some frogs in colder climates.
I heard rumors of a guy working on a mining crew who was meant to be cryogenically frozen for 18 months as punishment for violating the no pets policy. He woke up WAAAAY later than intended to learn that the entire crew had died, leaving him alone with the ship’s senile AI, a hologram of his supervisor, a descendant of his cat, and an android they had rescued.
Makes sense too. Why else would they have chosen such an odd title? Especially since originally, Elsa was going to be the villain like the original Snow Queen in the book was (and the movie may have actually been decent with that instead of the lazy Hans asspull), so presumably there would've been no reason not to just call the movie The Snow Queen.
Water expands when you freeze it. The human body is like 60-70% water. Maybe now you understand why there's cracks and fractures in it. Honestly, if we ever were going to "freeze" a body, I think we'd have to freeze it in a liquid stasis, of some sort. By that I mean, keeping it cold without it actually freezing solid. The trouble with that is, the reason why we freeze it solid in the first place is because stuff doesn't decompose because all the water is effectively gone, since it's ice. The reason why mummies are preserved so well is because they've been desiccated so well there's nothing left to really rot from it. So the conundrum is how do you keep something so cold it _can't_ rot, while also not freezing it solid and destroying every cell? Some animals like frogs and bugs seem to be able to do this, but they have some anti-freeze like substance in their bodies.
You can throw flies in the refrigerator and they will go into hibernation until you warm them up. I used to find "dead" flies at work in the coolers only to warm them up in my hands and watch them fly away about half an hour later. A handful of other animals have built in "anti-freeze" too, like some frogs and a species of caterpillar.
@@Em0tionL0rd -- Fair enough. I thought your "too" about anti-freeze meant you were listing additional *types* of creatures, not "in addition to refrigeratoon".
The amount of preservation ice is capable of is incredible. Even more so for animals that are capable of surviving being frozen like wood frogs unlike that unfortunate goldfish
too cold and you damage cells but ride that line and don't let the damage happen to the inside of the lungs(frozen lake survivors don't inhale) the other half is re-warming if done too quickly you throw off the process and the patient will die
@Aaron-zu3xn Theres a frog common in Canada, its range is pretty north that can freeze every winter and unfreeze in spring and be fine. Its called "Wood Frog". It survives by building up urea and glucose in its cells and tissues. It can survive 75% of all of the cells in its body frozen solid for months. Theres also a Japanese frog that does a similar trick that can survive even colder temps. One experiment, a Japanese frog survived -30° F(not C) for 6 months. But those are some of the few species that can.
I'm a mortician and everyone in my field find the entire cryogenic industry extremely disrespectful and horribly unregulated. They're selling false hope in a fancy coffin with an extremely high mark up. Death is scary, but we need to lift the social taboo on death to have real discussions on our after life planning.
I'm pretty chill with being worm food , that being said if reanimation becomes an actual possibility and I'm toast at a reasonably young age sign me up.
@@heromedleyBurgerlander just now realizing that it’s mostly Westerners and colonized nations that view death as a taboo subject. 😂 It might surprise you but plenty of other countries to this day and almost all pre-colonialist societies did not view death as a taboo like the US currently does. Whether it’s celebrating one’s dead or parading them around in the streets, I’ve only ever heard stories from America or families traumatized and torn up with grief, resentment, etc. from being unable to be with a loved one while they were dying due to difficult taboo attitudes around death and how to approach it. This taboo of death and dying does so much more harm than good. It needs to be deconstructed. I’d encourage listening to the Duncan Trussell Family Hour podcast episode where he interviews Ask a Mortician and she goes into the history of embalming in the US and how our modern attitude towards death and dying as taboo is mostly due to a propaganda campaign from embalmers from around WW1 so they could continue to sell embalming services after the war.
There's a Golden Girls episode where Rose has to go under for surgery and dreams she, Dorothy, and Blanche have had their heads cryogenically frozen. As they're arguing, "heads" in trays of ice on their kitchen table, Sophia casually walks in with the body of a 20-year old. When they all ask her how in the hell she has a body she responds "you didn't tip the guy?"🤣 That poor goldfish!
I recommend the "Bobiverse" series of novels. It's about a guy killed in a random car accident, is cryogenically frozen, then thawed out and forced into servitude as a digital replicant who controls a self replicating VonNuemann space probe. It's a great series
The technology required to adequately preserve a body or even just a brain would probably be so advanced that they'd probably just be able to cure whatever medical issue the person had to begin with.
I'm a butcher-food scientist by trade, sometimes we handle product that has been frozen to some pretty extreme temps below 0 way below 0 and have worked in blast freezers that will could kill you in 15 minutes or less if your not wearing proper clothes and one of the worst burns I've ever had came not from a fire but from a box that had been inside a ice cream freezer directly under the fans. I touched the box for maybe 7-9 seconds and felt pain all the way to the bone and a few days later all the skin died there turned all scaley and eventually fell off.
I was waiting to find a comment like this. Here's the comment. I'm screaming inside my mind. I get nerve pain that burns the inside of my body. THIS? THIS?! No thank you, no thaaank you.
@@jamie1602 ? I had second degree burns on my face from a bust hot water hose, 1 partial amputation and 1 total amputation and got it sewn back on that the pain was constant but not like insane pain but when I touched that box I had never felt a pain like that in my life and that was even thru a cotton glove. It was like a impossibility that something could hurt that bad.
@@WhatWouldVillainsDoMaybe you should get a different job, that doesn't sound too pleasant, lol. Man, in moments like these I'm glad that I have a totally safe job that mostly involves talking to people and reading and crafting documents. Might be a bit boring at times, but at least I've never given myself a serious injury (well, except for the one time I had a printer fall on my foot and broke two toes, but that's still miniscule compared to the stuff you've been through).
I love Whang's channel because sometimes you learn about weird shit people jerked off into and other times you get horrifying yet very fascinating history videos.
I find cryogenics and the people who believe in it to be fascinating. If anybody is interested there’s a really great hour-long video by Atrocity Guide called “It’s Embarrassing to Die: An Immortalist Story” that covers the history of cryogenics as well as other topics related to people wanting/trying to live forever.
It's not really that complicated to understand. If you have the spare money, there's not really much reason not to try, doesn't matter if it's a 5%, 1% chance. Nobody knows what the chances are. They're definitely not 0% because we know there are animals that do this in the wild successfully. How much above zero %... who knows. You can't take the money with you, though.
@@gavinjenkins899 you can leave your money behind to build generational wealth though? I would rather know that my family would have greater chance of success than to gamble my money on myself. I think its narcissistic.
@@AlanaBananaCanadai agree. also just don't see the point in even the idea that i could come back from being cryogenically frozen and exist in the future. i wouldn't want that, let me live the life i'm supposed to then die like everyone else does.
I love it when these kinds of people make books. They're always titled things like "Freezing people is not easy", or "I didn't murder anyone no sir-ee" or "I did not visit Epsteine's island on june 1997"
As a former employee of Disneyland, I can tell you from having access to all the crazy, ridiculous, tunnels all throughout Disneyland, there was never a sign of Walt being frozen, unless he was not frozen in Disneyland. Because as employees, we had access to everything. And as a photographer, I usually traveled all throughout those tunnels just hunting for photo moments. There was no sign of Disney.
This confuses me. Doesn't the whole idea of cryo-stasis hinge on the idea of being frozen while still alive, in order to be revived when a cure for your ailment is found? What does freezing after death accomplish?
The plan is, allegedly, to keep you fresh until a means to revive the dead is found. Presumably, a means to repair your Ice Damage would also be needed.
Many ppl belive that our 'consciousness' and self is stored in our brain, and therefore if you could theoretically get the neurons firing in our brains again after death (and either being stuck in a glass tube, robo body, or had ur body frozen before the cells decomposed, or had ur cells regrown somehow) will result in you coming back like waking from a coma. But since we can't even transplant heads between humans yet, it's still far into Sci fi territory and dependent on not finding out that it's impossible bc of (insert future discovery here)
It's interesting to think that from the perspective of the frozen people, they already know what happens. They've either been revived, or died. So it's not really them waiting to be revived, but everyone else waiting to see if or when we can revive them
I mean, only if you assume there's some kind of afterlife. If their consciousness just ceases to exist upon death, and they're never somehow revived, then they're never going to know one way or another, because they're, you know, dead...
@vanessaashford9203 Yea, I think what I said applies afterlife or not. As soon as they die, they will stay dead unless revived. Like how it's said innocent until proven guilty. So unless they are revived, they would just assume they will still be dead, if they are even thinking about that before they die.
Apparently the earliest application of a traditional microwave oven (not the discovery story with the guy who had a chocolate bar in his pocket), was to unfreeze frozen hamsters to rehabilitate them, and it *worked*. That said the experiment concluded that this couldn't be ramped up for larger creatures, including humans, iirc it had to do with the scale of cell structure between smaller and larger organisms (as cells tend to burst when frozen).
We do not freeze people lmao, they are preserved using special fluid being pumped in their cells and therefore no ice crystals are formed, this method was first utilized in the year 2000.
@@Danuxsy I'm not talking about how these companies do it, I'm simply saying these experiments with the microwaves and hamsters were done in part to explore if this could be "scaled up", not as a preservation technique, but in a medical or rehabilitation technique for those who reach dangerously low temperatures like frostbite or worse. They concluded that due to cell damage for creatures larger than a small rodent this would not work. That said, even in Alcor they haven't actually shown what the effects on tissues if thawed to see what the aftermath is, and I suspect that is because achieving a 100% substitution of water in every cell is difficult, and that ignores the process of reintroducing the water BACK into the cells during the thaw process.
@@redroachofficial7388 Shockingly it worked really well. According to the data "almost all subjects were successfully reanimated" after being frozen solid. A key detail is that this wasn't actually like your microwave at home it was precisely calibrated, and to reiterate the test subjects were specifically hamsters, but yeah they would wake up and live the rest of their retired lives relatively normally for a hamster that was frozen solid.
Growing up my parents had a small man made Pond with several fish. Every winter they would freeze solid entirely and you could even see them solid in the ice but every summer it would thaw and the fish was fine. I think it depends greatly on the speed in which it freezes and defrosts. Idk I'm not a doc but those fish lived years like that.
How deep was it and how deep was the ice. Most body's of water don't actually freeze and there is a part that is liquid where they could live. Most times only 1 to 3 ft freeze if deeper they might if been fine.
@@glitches911 sorry but that's just not possible, feel free to look it up. They can survive below the ice, in oxygen deprived water for the winter, if the fish freezes it's dead though. Cells don't survive that you know, even if the fish did (which it does not)
@@glitches911 brother, are you a flat earther or something..? You can not just say I am gaslighting you because you do not agree with scientific facts. I'm just telling you they cannot have been physically frozen without dying. Many animals can turn down their metabolism for example to get through times where nutrition and generally energy are hard to come by. I'm sure the fish had barely any oxygen or food and that they most likely barely moved at all under the ice. They cannot have been in the ice, that's all
So there was once an owner of a website dedicated to a kind of obscure game series who unfortunately passed away and her head was frozen by Alcor. I made the mistake of reading the case report Alcor wrote. These people have terrible protocols. Even if cryonics could work there's no way it wasn't too late to meaningfully preserve her brain. The whole report felt like one series of fuckups after another, as well as an experimental desecration of her corpse more than anything actually professional. It utterly destroyed any hope I had in cryonics being possible for humans, at least within this century. If the company can't even keep someone's brain reasonably intact on a macroscopic level long enough to get it into cold storage, what's the point of being frozen at all? Just a waste of electricity...
A uk scientist, James lovelock, froze hamsters then revived them with microwaves back in the 50s. I think they perfected the resurrection eventually but a lot of the hamsters got burns from heating elements. They scaled it up but it wouldn't work on bigger creatures likely because of the depth the microwaves need to penetrate and the varying speeds of thawing as a result. Hamsters just happened to be the perfect size.
The microwaves actually led to fewer burns! They were already reviving the hamsters before they invented the microwave heater, they were just using heated metal tools to quickly defrost them, and _that_ led to a lot of burns. The microwaves were able to penetrate more quickly and evenly so less direct heat, less burns, happier revived hamsters.
I once heard a Christmas Hallmark Channel movie use one of the recognizable tunes ((that one that's just discordant piano notes like a faint twinkling)) that is also used for Creepypasta narrations, and I nearly choked on my cocoa while laughing.
"John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen! And as soon as we find a cure for cancer we're gonna thaw out the Duke, and he's gonna be one pretty pissed off Duke. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well, multiply that by fifteen million times, that's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be."
I read a Scientific American article back in the early 2000s that said that the natural "antifreeze" in the blood and body fluids of tiny things like insects, but up to fairly large amphibians would be the way to proceed. The idea being that simply freezing, even with liquid nitrogen, is still so uneven that significant portions of the body freeze at the temperature of scarcely below 32F. That results in ice crystal formation in each individual cell, that causes the cell to rupture as it freezes. Everybody has known of this consequence since day one. And part of the technology that would be needed to revive such frozen bodies would be figuring out how to repair all of that cellular damage. But the antifreeze in certain animal bodies which allows like frogs to freeze solid at the bottom of a lake, literally in suspended animation, keeps them ice crystals from forming and instead of freezing, the frog body undergoes "vitrification". It essentially turns into a piece of glass. The same "antifreeze" (I forget what it was called) then allows normal thawing to take place and the cells are completely undamaged and the frog can then go about its business. The idea being to derive such a substance that could be infused, embalming style into a human body and thus preclude freezing damage. There might be a bit more delay, but apart from the potential of autolysis, (cells eating their ownselves after death--you got about a few minutes, maybe, from the cessation of vascular circulation, so I'm not sure how you rocket that liquid into the body. Under normal circumstances of life, blood completely circulates the body in about 40 seconds) the cells would then be in a state of perfect pristine anatomical preservation. And yes, they knew about the autolysis issue from day one as well. Then you can put them bodies in the liquid nitrogen tank. I mostly forgot about that article until I saw this video just now. I have no idea if anything came of this research. Or if anything has ever been derived/developed. But as demonstrated by nature, the concept certainly seems sound.
Actual mortuary care is all about dignity and respect. They care for the surviving loved ones in their worst days and allow them to see their dead one last time. The dead are at their most vulnerable, yet are treated with the most respect. There is nothing more undignified or terrible than stuff like this
From my experience, mortuary care is no different than a shift at McDonalds in the graveyard shift with someone's phone is blasting music near the kitchen sink and some of the crew is drunk others are stoned and the rest are both.
>mortuary care is all about dignity and respect. And trying to nickle and dime a grieving, vulnerable family out of everything they could get before the corpse gets interred.
Cryogenics has always been a very interesting sci-fi subject, not surprising we're no where near that future though, there's so many systems that are important for life that re-starting them all is, right now, just unthinkable.
How much of it would be you? I mean would you even wake up or would some a hole just be walking around like an unfrozen caveman lawyer where people could oooh ahhh look they're back! We don't know what makes us sentient and have consciousness. Look at Phineas Gage, poor dude. We need way more research in quantum physics and understanding existence before we can even think about bringing people back, at least from an ethical standpoint.
@@devinthieraultYou don't even need to think about consciousness, the time-travel cultural shock would kill you a second time on the spot or overtime unless they made a reservation for fools got frozen.
@@blunderingfoolhe made a good point tho, even if you could technically do it without destroying every organ in your body. Imagine being frozen in the 60’s and waking up now, how fucking insane the technological and cultural shift that happened? Maybe you don’t even have living relatives anymore… I think I would lose my mind. But this technology is so far from real that we haven’t even begun to question about what happens after we revive these people. I doubt they would be functioning members of society without a lot of time and care.
In the mid 2010s people thought path tracing for video games were decades away and now we can run path tracing in real-time already. You do not know how far away we are from cryonics being viable, it could be a century, it could also be by next decade.
After hearing so many tales from the Internet, it wouldn't surprise me if walt being cryogenically frozen turned out to be a mickey figurine in frozen in a jar with bodily fluids 🥶🤣
In high school in like 2004 i did a debate in speech class about cryogenic freezing of people. I was "for" the process and i remember researching Alcor at the time. Crazy to hear about them 20 years later!
My biggest fear is dying, unable to move, speak, all that, but somehow still being aware of what is going on around me and happening to my body. Being buried or cremated sound horrible, but getting shoved in a frozen tube for decades is what nightmares are made of
That's called (except for the "being dead" part) locked-in syndrome. I heard an interview with a guy who was in this state for many years but eventually came out of it. He said the hospital staff just constantly put on Barney the Dinosaur videos and would then leave the room.
Interesting fact about goldfish the colder the temperature the longer they will survive without food. Also they can live up to 25 years and they can grow absolutely giant all it depends on is how mcuh food they are given. My brother palmed one of on me 13 years ago when he moved and it's still alive, I never wanted Noblet yet I think he'll outlive me at this point and I had to buy a new tank because he's too big and this was a tank I originally had 3 goldfish in with adequate room.
Not gonna lie, the theory that they named the movie Frozen as a bizarre form of SEO for "Disney's Frozen" is one of those where I gotta love the creativity of whoever came up with it
This video brings up a weird childhood memory. My uncle used to own a gas station in 1996 when I was 11 and I would sometimes hang out in the front office when my dad was there helping out. He had this little old black and white TV with rabbit ears on the desk, that would only pick up like one channel. One afternoon I was sitting there and there just happened to be this random news magazine show on where they were talking all about cryogenics and freezing dead celebrities. I think they may have talked about that Deblasio guy. I found it creepy. What a weird random moment.
I did that with goldfish when I was working at a pet store and we had hundreds of cheap feeder fish. I froze them but some of the water still needed to be liquid in the middle of the water cup for them to reliably be revived. This made sense to me since they can survive winters with their pond freezing, but not if it freezes completely.
I've always wondered if cryogenics would be a good idea to sign up for, it could be possible you wake up in the future and have a weird extended life or it could be horrible. Like what if you wake waaay too far in future and humans look slightly off because of evolution or you turn out to be a freak of nature in a cyborg body.
Considering how far into the future we might be before we can achive this (big 'if' we could achieve it) you'd be awoken to an unfamiliar world. Unless there were agencys in place, *if* you found your descendants. It wouldn't even matter as you'd be generations removed from them and their lives, everybody you knew and cared about might be gone if they werent also frozen. Your relatives would be tasked with taking care of you bc you wouldnt know the current global state and politics, how currency is valued at the moment, the state of ur country and culture, what technology is common and needed for basic life, as well as dialect and slang being different. I dont know who would want that for themselves and their family. I'd rather be let to rot under the ground.
In the graphic novel Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis and Darick Robertson they have an interesting spin on chryonics. The story is set far in the future and reviving frozen people is trivial. The problem is that the it turns out the human mind is incapable of handling the shock of returning to world that is unlike anything they have experienced.
Sounds like a pretty stupid premise considering we have had people who lived all their life in tribes that were stuck in time, and these tribesmen escaped and went to modern cities and adapted relatively quickly.
I always looked at cryogenics as a gamble: You die and get frozen, and either the technology to revive you will become available in the future, or it won't and you simply stay dead, thus loosing nothing. The alternative is getting buried/cremated and leaving behind nothing that could potentially be revived. So it's a miniscule chance for life in the future, versus a guarantee of being gone forever. If I had the money, I would gladly take this gamble. Besides, the kind of technology required to revive someone is basicly molecular/cellular level repair, which could also make you virtually immortal.
I agree. Also, I'm sure you can afford it. Alcor has the most advanced and comprehensive plans, but there are cheaper options. The Cryonics Institute charges $30,000 for whole-body vitrification, and Oregon Brain Preservation charges $8,000 for brain-only freezing. Almost everyone pays with life insurance, though, which can make even Alcor's $80,000 for head-only or $200,000 for whole-body affordable.
It is frustrating having to explain a possition to extremely religious people. There are people talking all through this comment thread about there experience with freezing. Thing is, that isn't cryogenically freezing. My fiance and myself intend to be cryogenically frozen on our deaths as well. The difference is that we don't intend to be revived. We intend to be brought back as a program. In this way, we hope to have our brains brought back to a form of conciousness. We don't care that the odds are extremely low, but it is much higher than relying on religion. Is it so crazy to be revived as a program? I would quite like to see the future, I don't think I will make it there via normal means developed in my life. Though the first functionally immortal person is said to already be born. Whatever your intentions, good luck. For my part, my brain is already part machine. Rare form of brain tumor that wasn't cancerous...but still took up a huge amount of my brain requiring a pump. I have nothing to lose relying on cryonics.
I always heard the story that they'd only frozen his head, and he wanted to be thawed out if Disney was ever in trouble. Though, how he'd run the company without a body is unclear.
I'm the Medical Sergeant for a SAR & Disaster Response. It's absolutely incredible how many times we've found humans and animals frozen (and we thought) to death. Only to find signs of life barely able to register on both our personal equipment or the higher level machines to register as they thaw. We teach "You're not dead until you're warm and dead."
I always kinda thought that trying to thaw a frozen dead body might turn out to just causing these ppl immeasurable pain due to tissue/organ/bone damage. It sounds like it could be potentially horrifying
Think about the information in the brain as well. The brain has to stay on to retain that information. Even if you came back and survived there would probably be none of you left. Your brain would be empty ;).
Yes it would be horrifying bc you can rest assured all these frozen bodies have humongous damage, not only fractures, but cellular and chemical decomposition. But, they are all dead, so they wont feel anything anymore.
if they try to thaw out a body without having perfected the kinks to that extent, I doubt the person being thawed would be alive or conscious to experience pain
@@nestharus the brain after the few pre-mortem minutes and 1 hour post-mortem minutes are the most vital to map and "save its data" i believe after 1 hour post-mortem the brain itself will begin to die very quickly, no amount of frozen might save most of its content, but maybe some "bits" out of the therabytes sort of speak
omg yes. absolutely insane. that was the first thing i thought of when i saw this pop up. the part towards the end with the old guy taking about sterilizing himself is so shocking and out of left field. i was already uncomfortable laughing and atp i was on the brink of tears
The fact that there are creatures that can survive freezing shows the idea at least on paper has merit. Now as to the practical reality of freezing something as complex as a human? Most probably not, but then we also live in an age of technology that 100 years ago would be basically considered magic.
Growing up I was always terrified of the concept of cryogenics because of the Carbon-Freezing scene in Star Wars. The concept of being frozen, alive or dead, especially against your will was genuinely traumatizing to me. And don't even get me started on the Magic School Bus space episode.
@@gavinjenkins899 Oh I know, I'm just saying it was an irrational fear I had as a kid. Like "what if someone breaks into my house and puts me in a metal tube" that shit kept me up at night
The insults are richly deserved. it’s selfish to freeze yourself in the hope that everyone will solve all the problems in the world just so you can wake up in the future and reap all the benefits.
@@mushyroom9569 that doesn't make any sense. If the person wasn't frozen, they would be dead anyway, so it's not like they had the choice between being frozen or helping solve the world's problems.
Freezing someone solid would not be the way to go anyway. We might be able to achieve some form of suspended animation, by keeping someone at .001 above freezing. The expansion of many substances by a hard freeze just does too much damage.
Neuropreservation reminds me of the horrors in That Hiddeous Strength by C.S. Lewis. They preserved a guy's severed head and kept it alive by connecting it to tubes and wires (only for it to be posessed by "Macrobes", i.e. demons)
@@DanaTheInsane No, the destruction of his family centered films for an empty non-narrative, nonsense-driven voyeurism full of unabashed provocation in terms of needless "virtue" for an empty profit with failed returns because people have stopped buying it. A tactic that has now been wildly criticized and loathed by both sides. Not the lazy slew of buzzwords you've put together without proper implementation or even spelling, in an attempt to sound profound. Feel free to let the adults talk without you nipping at their heels "dana".
Holy crap, you actually covered Frozen Dead Guy Days! I stayed in Nederland, CO briefly over the summer for a camping trip with my roommates and found out about it while I was just reading up on the town.
If they start bringing folks back that would be insane. I doubt me or my kids will see it, but if they figure it out, space travel gets veeeeeeeery interesting all of the sudden.
@@enricofaa9302 they aren't running...? They died, froze themselves as shortly after as possible in an attempt to come back once science "catches up." I get the hope of trying to live as long as possible, especially when faced with death. I don't feel the same personally, but many do, so the hope of some extra time is totally understandable.
I'm 62 years old and I 100% remember it going around that Walt Disney was cryogenically frozen as a matter of fact I believed it for 30 years just until 10 years ago or so I always thought it was true I didn't really ever check into it but yeah that rumor went around a lot when I was younger I believe there's so much that I remember helping spread the rumor like I knew what I was talking about
The only reason it worked for Steve Rogers is because he was still alive when he crashed into the ice and had a far stronger molecular structure due to the super soldier serum.
I watched Atrocity Guide's video about cryogenics and became obsessed with the subject for a short while. Glad to have another video to binge watch about the subject
I remember in Jason X they mentioned that the found a bunch of frozen people before but don't bother trying to revive most of them if they're not a person of interest. This video made me think of that lol.
The guy talking about how it used to be cool to do, in less years than the preserved woman and Jason, was both interesting and hilarious. Jason Voorhees being of such interest that even the body would be worth a ton of money (if he was "human" not a frankenstein's monster or necronomicon creation) was just super telling of the future and the present. Find the dead body of something ancient that had significance and would if, by the movie, he killed so many people and then just dissapeared, it would be a "gold mine." Disturbing yet true. Even fine with letting many guards die to secure him. Also JasonX is way better than watching a Jason film with orange blood and awful acting, I'll take Jason Lives and/or Kane Hodder Jason anyday.
I'm now remembering the episode of the golden girls where one of them imagines they've had their cryogenically preserved heads thawed out only to end up as talking heads on platters, when Sophia walks in with her new, young body and old head. 🤣
In Spain, the Walt Disney being frozen myth became so strong, it ended up becoming one of his main traits and ending up in so many pop culture jokes and staples, especially during the 1990s.
It is similar in America. I don't think most actually believe the story to be true but they still make jokes and references. There's an episode of Batman: The Animated Series that has a theme park owner similar to Disney that hires Mr. Freeze to give him the same immortality that Mr. Freeze has.
@@KasumiKenshirouYeah, sure, but in the US the rumor waned a few years after. I'm talking when certain rumors are forgotten in some countries but in others are big and/or exaggerated.
I always thought people having cryogenics wouldve done it when they were alive and not when they're already dead. Maybe cryogenics would have worked if the person is still alive before they died. Cant really be brought back to life if u weren't alive in the first place, y'know
True, though then it becomes a problem of ethics. Since it’s not guaranteed that the freezing will work, it’s kinda murder. If they’re already dead it doesn’t matter.
Makes sense in their head since they are clearly afraid of their own mortality, and I'd assume they are afraid of being killed before they die. Still a bad idea though lol
@@etrs how? I'd understand if it read like my comment is heading up to punchline but idk how mcdonald-y the joke is (I swear I'm not being sarcastic or anything I'm just genuinely curious 😅)
@@Aazel yeah, especially since unless it's a trusted person (family or friends) looking over your dead body, u can't really be sure if ur body's gonna survive
It was science fiction author Poul Anderson who used the word corpesicle for the people cryogenically frozen. He wrote an intriguing story set in the future, where the money to maintain the corpesicles has run out, and transplant medicine has greatly advanced . . .
The guy driving the truck with his dead mom reminds me of what Casey Kasem's wife did to him. (Kasem was a famous radio DJ who also did cartoon voices. He was the original Shaggy from Scooby Doo and many others.) Jean Kasem would drive Casey around the country to prevent his kids from another marriage from seeing him. He was in no condition to travel so this killed him. Then she continued driving his dead body around for months and had him buried in a country he had no connection to.
I have had fish freeze and unfreeze in my pond fine. The most crazy one is with frogs and toads, you can find footage of it online they allow themselves to essentially freeze.
Coming from someone who's been clinically DOA for over 45mins with total kidney & heart failure before being brought back & put into a medical coma for 2 months, I can say that BEING UNALIVE is VASTLY better than the horrific experience of having your broken, non-functional body forced back to life & forced to keep going for years, decades... It's the worst thing that's happened to me, thru a lifetime of being a medical lab rat... 😬
@@heromedley What else do you call having zero life outside of doctors, hospitals, failed surgeries & countless complications, starting before you even hit 13 & stealing your entire life?? Again, trolls just LOVE to declare how they know more about me than I do! 🙄🙄🙄
I think it’s an interesting field to study and respect to the people actually trying to progress science, either as researchers or donating their bodies, but those companies selling it as a service are complete scum
Yeah the legit science stuff is pretty neat it has a lot of interesting possibilities. But the service part is essentially scam calls to the elderly. Giving false hope to people with deep enough pockets. I would never try to talk someone out of it but honestly it's so pathetic.
@@ChadDidNothingWrongThe company’s have no credentials, if actual scientists worked there it’d be fine, but the company’s are run by a bunch of frauds throwing ice on dead people. That’s what the problem is.
It's an unproven science that has never had a single successful outcome, and they're selling it like it's some magical cure to save your loved ones There's a reason people are payed to do drug trials even though proven medicine costs money @@ChadDidNothingWrong
@@ChadDidNothingWrong selling something (the something in this case being people's remains being frozen by their loved ones in the hopes they'll be revived) with the knowledge that you're doing a shitty job and having little confidence in the service you're providing, is in fact scummy.
When lakes/ponds freeze, the fish go to the deepest parts of the water and "rest". This rest is when their heart rate slows down, the need for food (and most importantly oxygen) decreases. Basically metabolic functions slow down significantly. But this process isn't permanent and fish still need that water around them (they are still getting oxygen just less so and even in frozen lakes there is still water). A similar process works for amphibians and reptiles who go into a state of hibernation. Tardigrades, Wooly Bear larvae (it's a caterpillar), and some beetles are all pretty good at surviving icy temperatures. Wood frogs are stellar at this, they don't have a heartbeat or even need to breath when frozen. eventually they thaw and walk it off. It's a preservation that a lot of cryogenic facilities strive for. All the preservation without the debilitating and irreversible damage caused by the freezing process. RIP that one guys fish.
Saul Kent was not the founder of Alcor (that was Fred Chamberlain III along with his wife Linda), and Saul had his mother cryopreserved immediately after her clinical death from old age. He didn't do it "for his work" (what do you even mean by that?). He did it because his mother was dying and he loved her and wanted to see her again. He entered cryostasis this year.
@@viktorreznov4718 except for the fact that people there attested to a corner inquiry that he was administering barbiturates before her death, and won a court case to avoid testing her tissue that was left for those chemicals. Cryonic burial is not viewed as a legitimate science or medical approach, and their own case reports from before 2021 were An absolute horror show of ineptitude and poor preparedness. Fun fact: ALCOR administers cardioplegic medications and non-scheduled anesthetic agents because their “standby” teams give the same dose of resuscitative vasopressors and resuscitative measures called for by ACLS “after” natural death. They do this because after “legal death” it’s an anatomical donation. If you want to know why this is an absolute horror show - look up “CPR awareness” You do what you want - it’s after all your money - but don’t pretend it’s nothing more than a gambit on applied phlebonium.
That's what I figure will happen. The ice crystals formed by the current methods burst the cell walls so I don't think current cryogenically frozen bodies could ever be revived.
I love how in Fallout 4, Bethesda made a reference to Walt Disney in their Nuka World DLC. It was funny and terrifying at the same time, to say the least.
*_Imagine waking up from cryo and finding out that your wife has been killed and your child kidnapped, and then find out your kid grew up to be a big ol' jerk._*
And the world went to shit while you powernapped creating gigantic fucking dinosaur things that want nothing more than to eat your ass and not in a fun way
We have succesfully frozen and thawed hamsters in the ‘50s, it was actually how microwaves were invented. The microwaves were used to unthaw the hamsters. Hamsters are small enough that antifreeze can soak into all their cells before it kills them. The hamsters usually lived a couple months after being unfrozen.
@@AllTheOthers there are other ways to put someone in stasis which might be more efficient. But if I ever get frozen, may it be so that my body becomes food
One of the cryo facilities where they store frozen bodies lost power once, potentially ruining all of their subjects. I think it's a far fetched pipedream. Being brought back to life but I like the idea of Futurama's heads in the jars
Cartoons really did trick a whole generation of people into thinking "yeah, extreme cold is able to keep people frozen without aging for centuries and you can thaw them out and they'll live." I can think of 3 shows with that premise.
What really happened to Walt Disney after he died was his head was cut off and attach to a robot body to keep it alive. But he had to eat children to keep the head alive. Cuban children wore said to be his favorite and that's why they built the theme parks in florida.
The better plan would be developing a “re-gestation chamber”, placing the body in a prolonged regenerative hibernate state, while the body is being repaired via exogenous methods that are natural to the human body, maybe some DNA repair & gene editing may also be necessary before & after the fact. The only part holding me back is I have absolutely no clue how any of this stuff is going to work lol! I’ve only been a bio systems engineering grad for less than a year so…🤷♂️…I do have my theories though😂 So if there are any Doctors or scientists in the comments, please feel free to chime in with some ideas, especially Endocrinologists, Pharmacologists, Neuroscientists, Surgeons, and biochemists/molecular biologists, we can do this 💪😂.
You support cryogenics so you can find the key to immortality. I support cryogenics so I can make ice swords out of thin air like Sub Zero. *We are not the same.*
Imagine coming back to life after being frozen, only to find yourself rotting away as soon as you're revived
I think there was a sci-fi anthology show from the 2000's about a scientist who does that exact thing.
He gets fatally stabbed and uses his own tech, and has a ticking clock to figure out who killed him before he actually died.
It was the Other side, or something I can't remember the name of it for the life of me.
Something kind of similar happened to Emperor Palpatine in the EU, except it wasn't cryogenics. He kept cloning himself and transferring the essence but his soul was so wicked and dark that the new bodies would immediately start rotting away every time. It was a very unnatural technique and he was trying to cheat death to hold onto his power, but the Force itself was trying to reject this.
Funny enough I remember this happening on Mr. Meaty.
That is basically Lovecraft's cool air
That is disgusting! 🤢
Ever freeze lettuce and try to thaw it out? Yeah, that's what happens to the body when frozen. Ice crystals are jagged and destroy cells.
Ice crystals are also bigger. Water expands by 10% ish when frozen which ruptures cells.
That's why they use cryopreservatives now. Vitrification in particular. By injecting thr body with anti-freeze right after death, they hope to reduce ice crystal formation to a manageable level in the future.
I wonder if someday we'll use gene editing to give humans genes that make cells crank out "anti-freeze" in response to extreme hypoxic conditions.
I’ve always wondered where people got the idea that their organs could survive deep freezing. Frost bite takes limbs.
@@AtlasReburdened tardigrades do that to a degree, but I don’t know the mechanism at play
I'm an engineer working with a cryogenic cooling research company, and because of these geezers, I now have to always say "No, not the corpses one" when people ask...
What do you do? Food? Quantum computers?
what else is there relating to cryogenic cooling research? magnets?
@@HungerGamesFan00Sperm and eggs probably
@@HungerGamesFan00for space exploration maybe? Outer space is like -450 F/ -270 C. So it would make sense to study how man-made materials react to such extreme conditions.
@@HungerGamesFan00 Quantum Computers (and other quantum research), superconductors and magnets, and many advanced detectors (like those found in IR Astronomy equipment or used to monitor fibre optic equipment) need cooling varying from LN2 to close to absolute zero, either to operate at all or cut out the noise that comes with higher temperatures.
Just cryogenically freeze me until cryogenic freezing is scientifically possible and then freeze me in that one
Can't miss
What if your brain continues functioning just enough to be aware of 1000s of years of confinement
@SoulDelSol Pretty sure it would just be like a blackout. Worst case scenario it's a series of vivid dreams that drive you insane before it shuts down. Or maybe they come on the reboot.
@@SoulDelSol What if you die but your soul is still stuck inside your brain, so you can't move, can't talk, don't actually live, but when they burn you, you feel everything before you're surrounded by complete void, nothing is visible, you can't hear anything at all yet you exist and continue to exist in an anxiety inducing forever-hell.
Your soul is searching for your body, you're trying to wake up from a dream but only this time you have no body to wake up to, you don't actually exist anymore, yet you understand that you do indeed exist because the sharp pain you knew it life as anxiety still continues to beat inside your now massless-non-existant heart.
You pray, but no one answers.
You're stuck in time, staring back into the what-was, the dim flicker of humanity long since extinguished. How much time has passed? A day? A month? Three hundred billion years?
@@Mere-Lachaiselongue wtf no don't be stupid your soul gets frozen too
I remember my dad telling me a story about my Grandfather, and how when he was a kid, his family would sometimes spend the winter at a farm in Alberta, Canada owned by my Grandpas Uncle, Jack. Anyways, the winters up their were brutal. They would have a rope running from the house to the barn so that you didn't get lost in the 3-foot visibility caused by the snow. One fateful winter, uncle jack would pass away. Now you can't exactly dig a six-foot deep hole in the rock solid, snow covered ground in the middle of January. So they wrapped him up in a old carpet, and stuck him in the hay loft in the barn, where he lay frozen until spring, when they buried him at the family cemetery, where he lies to this day. I have heard that this was pretty common back in the day for anyone who died in the winter in Alberta or any other place of a similarly northern latitude. RIP Great-Great Uncle Jack.
Alberta is beautiful!
RIP UNC! I hope to lay frozen some winter…to scare my kin once again.
When summer did roll around 😂
I’m in Alberta right now. Pretty neat story. Back in the day for sure that had to be common. RIP to your Uncle Jack.
Heard about one guy who got cryogenically frozen for a thousand years and is best friends with a robot and is dating a one eyed sewer mutant so they don't all end badly.
He also did the nasty in the pasty
@@angelface925That's got to suck being your own grandfather.
Don't ask about his dog though
Seymore!
That cheese pizza and large soda really helped him out
18 naked frozen bodies in the freezers at ram ranch. Rock hard bodies waiting to get thawed
They won’t play this one in Louisville.
😂
18 more buried out in the yard
Ram ranch really rocks
Die hard.... Literally
Having a holiday where a town of people come to celebrate because of you feels like a better kind of preservation than being frozen forever.
Ah, the Epic of Gilgamesh. I love that story's moral.
So true. Hope it remains a custom. Even after his son is no longer around to keep him frozen.
Yeah but people dont think like that i guess. People hate the feeling of being left out. Being frozen is so that you can be thawed and rejoin society. Freezing is not about being Remembered or even Loved. Its about surviving longer than you are meant to
@@RB-yt6rx How long are people "meant" to survive?
@@517342This is possibly the fullest circle that humanity has ever went
A friend of mine had a goldfish when his area was left without power for 3 weeks in the deep of winter -- the ice storm that hit Eastern Canada in 1998. When he returned he assumed that the goldfish was dead, but once the water was warmed up sufficiently the goldfish came back to life, doing goldfish things. 6 months later he gave the goldfish to another friend who overfed it, and it died.
Raccoon City goldfish
My parents went outta town for four days and the power went out due to a snowstorm. Their aquarium froze and when it thawed the fish weren’t quite… the same…
Hillarious I 😅😊
final destiny stuff
@@ThestuffthatSaralikesif they had tropical fresh water fresh, their not made for it. Cold, fresh water pond fish generally can withstand "some" freezing, like some frogs in colder climates.
I heard rumors of a guy working on a mining crew who was meant to be cryogenically frozen for 18 months as punishment for violating the no pets policy. He woke up WAAAAY later than intended to learn that the entire crew had died, leaving him alone with the ship’s senile AI, a hologram of his supervisor, a descendant of his cat, and an android they had rescued.
Red Dwarf 😂
Black Giant
What is this from
Smeg head!
@@MADRAD2000Red Dwarf, it's from the BBC
"America needs nudism to end crime." As if I ever need an excuse to get naked.
I actually like the idea that Frozen was made just to hide the myth
Makes sense too. Why else would they have chosen such an odd title? Especially since originally, Elsa was going to be the villain like the original Snow Queen in the book was (and the movie may have actually been decent with that instead of the lazy Hans asspull), so presumably there would've been no reason not to just call the movie The Snow Queen.
Same with Disney on Ice
Ah yes, its all coming together.
@@Keznen "Tangled" did it first. It really should have been called Rapunzel.
@@Keznencause shes frozen
"I haven't done anything criminal, anything wrong other than a lot of bad decisions." Great quote.
me about 99% of the stuff i do
Sounds like Richard Nixon.
Almost sounds like Nixon 👍 😂
Water expands when you freeze it. The human body is like 60-70% water. Maybe now you understand why there's cracks and fractures in it. Honestly, if we ever were going to "freeze" a body, I think we'd have to freeze it in a liquid stasis, of some sort. By that I mean, keeping it cold without it actually freezing solid. The trouble with that is, the reason why we freeze it solid in the first place is because stuff doesn't decompose because all the water is effectively gone, since it's ice. The reason why mummies are preserved so well is because they've been desiccated so well there's nothing left to really rot from it. So the conundrum is how do you keep something so cold it _can't_ rot, while also not freezing it solid and destroying every cell? Some animals like frogs and bugs seem to be able to do this, but they have some anti-freeze like substance in their bodies.
Thank you for this comment! So very accurate. Sadly, we must accept that someday we will no longer exist.
They use antideeeze solution. Unfortunately it cant stop all feactures
Correct🧐
I just watched a documentary on it and they inject you with a solution that keeps ice crystals from forming. Basically antifreeze
You can throw flies in the refrigerator and they will go into hibernation until you warm them up. I used to find "dead" flies at work in the coolers only to warm them up in my hands and watch them fly away about half an hour later. A handful of other animals have built in "anti-freeze" too, like some frogs and a species of caterpillar.
Refrigeration is a lot different from freezing. Water expands when it freezes, often rupturing cells.
@@Dudemon-1 Read the rest of the comment.
@@Em0tionL0rd -- Fair enough. I thought your "too" about anti-freeze meant you were listing additional *types* of creatures, not "in addition to refrigeratoon".
Guess what, humans are not flies,bees,or whatever else can survive a freeze. .
@@inyahuahitrustmd1977 No shit sherlock, actually read my comment.
The amount of preservation ice is capable of is incredible. Even more so for animals that are capable of surviving being frozen like wood frogs unlike that unfortunate goldfish
That goldfish had a hell of a “stayin alive” party for 3 days though. You say unfortunate, I say blessed.
too cold and you damage cells but ride that line and don't let the damage happen to the inside of the lungs(frozen lake survivors don't inhale) the other half is re-warming if done too quickly you throw off the process and the patient will die
@Aaron-zu3xn
Theres a frog common in Canada, its range is pretty north that can freeze every winter and unfreeze in spring and be fine. Its called "Wood Frog".
It survives by building up urea and glucose in its cells and tissues. It can survive 75% of all of the cells in its body frozen solid for months. Theres also a Japanese frog that does a similar trick that can survive even colder temps. One experiment, a Japanese frog survived -30° F(not C) for 6 months.
But those are some of the few species that can.
@CantTellYou The poor fish may very well have been suffering in pain that whole time, though.
some dr is trying to do a full head transplant..lets see how that goes first
I'm a mortician and everyone in my field find the entire cryogenic industry extremely disrespectful and horribly unregulated. They're selling false hope in a fancy coffin with an extremely high mark up. Death is scary, but we need to lift the social taboo on death to have real discussions on our after life planning.
“lift the social taboo on death” yeah good luck on that
I'm a human and I find the entire mortician field extremely disrespectful and horribly unregulated, what a coincidence.
I'm pretty chill with being worm food , that being said if reanimation becomes an actual possibility and I'm toast at a reasonably young age sign me up.
@@heromedleyBurgerlander just now realizing that it’s mostly Westerners and colonized nations that view death as a taboo subject. 😂
It might surprise you but plenty of other countries to this day and almost all pre-colonialist societies did not view death as a taboo like the US currently does. Whether it’s celebrating one’s dead or parading them around in the streets, I’ve only ever heard stories from America or families traumatized and torn up with grief, resentment, etc. from being unable to be with a loved one while they were dying due to difficult taboo attitudes around death and how to approach it. This taboo of death and dying does so much more harm than good. It needs to be deconstructed.
I’d encourage listening to the Duncan Trussell Family Hour podcast episode where he interviews Ask a Mortician and she goes into the history of embalming in the US and how our modern attitude towards death and dying as taboo is mostly due to a propaganda campaign from embalmers from around WW1 so they could continue to sell embalming services after the war.
Making peace with my immortality has made me happier. Thank you for what you do.
There's a Golden Girls episode where Rose has to go under for surgery and dreams she, Dorothy, and Blanche have had their heads cryogenically frozen. As they're arguing, "heads" in trays of ice on their kitchen table, Sophia casually walks in with the body of a 20-year old. When they all ask her how in the hell she has a body she responds "you didn't tip the guy?"🤣
That poor goldfish!
I think about that scene all the time
I recommend the "Bobiverse" series of novels. It's about a guy killed in a random car accident, is cryogenically frozen, then thawed out and forced into servitude as a digital replicant who controls a self replicating VonNuemann space probe. It's a great series
The technology required to adequately preserve a body or even just a brain would probably be so advanced that they'd probably just be able to cure whatever medical issue the person had to begin with.
I'm a butcher-food scientist by trade, sometimes we handle product that has been frozen to some pretty extreme temps below 0 way below 0 and have worked in blast freezers that will could kill you in 15 minutes or less if your not wearing proper clothes and one of the worst burns I've ever had came not from a fire but from a box that had been inside a ice cream freezer directly under the fans. I touched the box for maybe 7-9 seconds and felt pain all the way to the bone and a few days later all the skin died there turned all scaley and eventually fell off.
I was waiting to find a comment like this. Here's the comment. I'm screaming inside my mind. I get nerve pain that burns the inside of my body. THIS? THIS?! No thank you, no thaaank you.
@@jamie1602 ? I had second degree burns on my face from a bust hot water hose, 1 partial amputation and 1 total amputation and got it sewn back on that the pain was constant but not like insane pain but when I touched that box I had never felt a pain like that in my life and that was even thru a cotton glove. It was like a impossibility that something could hurt that bad.
@@WhatWouldVillainsDowhat what??? That's horrible.
I’ve worked in an ice cream freezer once upon a time, they can get a tad cold can’t they.
@@WhatWouldVillainsDoMaybe you should get a different job, that doesn't sound too pleasant, lol.
Man, in moments like these I'm glad that I have a totally safe job that mostly involves talking to people and reading and crafting documents. Might be a bit boring at times, but at least I've never given myself a serious injury (well, except for the one time I had a printer fall on my foot and broke two toes, but that's still miniscule compared to the stuff you've been through).
I love Whang's channel because sometimes you learn about weird shit people jerked off into and other times you get horrifying yet very fascinating history videos.
It makes you wonder what Whang himself is into.
Really reminds me of the SA front-page from two decades ago
Lmao
The wat@@krodmandoon3479
I find cryogenics and the people who believe in it to be fascinating. If anybody is interested there’s a really great hour-long video by Atrocity Guide called “It’s Embarrassing to Die: An Immortalist Story” that covers the history of cryogenics as well as other topics related to people wanting/trying to live forever.
Cool, I'm looking it up
It's not really that complicated to understand. If you have the spare money, there's not really much reason not to try, doesn't matter if it's a 5%, 1% chance. Nobody knows what the chances are. They're definitely not 0% because we know there are animals that do this in the wild successfully. How much above zero %... who knows. You can't take the money with you, though.
@@gavinjenkins899 you can leave your money behind to build generational wealth though? I would rather know that my family would have greater chance of success than to gamble my money on myself. I think its narcissistic.
@@AlanaBananaCanadai agree. also just don't see the point in even the idea that i could come back from being cryogenically frozen and exist in the future. i wouldn't want that, let me
live the life i'm supposed to then die like everyone else does.
@@fairygrl999 Yeah. The whole thing is just illogical.
I love it when these kinds of people make books. They're always titled things like "Freezing people is not easy", or "I didn't murder anyone no sir-ee" or "I did not visit Epsteine's island on june 1997"
😂
Holy shit did he go to the island I can't find the list
As a former employee of Disneyland, I can tell you from having access to all the crazy, ridiculous, tunnels all throughout Disneyland, there was never a sign of Walt being frozen, unless he was not frozen in Disneyland. Because as employees, we had access to everything. And as a photographer, I usually traveled all throughout those tunnels just hunting for photo moments. There was no sign of Disney.
I too read he was frozen unaware claims of left at Disneyland.
@@debbyvibbert3177 in fact, Walt was just cremated on an unmarked grave somewhere in a famous cemetery.
Thats exactly what some who saw Walt Disney's hibernation chamber would say.
If only you could hear me groan….@@Geuelthefool
“There was no sign of Disney.” - ☝️🤓
This confuses me. Doesn't the whole idea of cryo-stasis hinge on the idea of being frozen while still alive, in order to be revived when a cure for your ailment is found? What does freezing after death accomplish?
The plan is, allegedly, to keep you fresh until a means to revive the dead is found.
Presumably, a means to repair your Ice Damage would also be needed.
Many ppl belive that our 'consciousness' and self is stored in our brain, and therefore if you could theoretically get the neurons firing in our brains again after death (and either being stuck in a glass tube, robo body, or had ur body frozen before the cells decomposed, or had ur cells regrown somehow) will result in you coming back like waking from a coma.
But since we can't even transplant heads between humans yet, it's still far into Sci fi territory and dependent on not finding out that it's impossible bc of (insert future discovery here)
If I remember rightly, the premise is it's like thawing someone up who froze in a lake and shocking the heart back with the paddles.
@@MSinistrari Defibs STOP the heart, not start it, hence de-fibrillation. Cessation of heart beat.
@@blunderingfool That's what I get for commenting when I should've gone to bed hours ago.
It's interesting to think that from the perspective of the frozen people, they already know what happens. They've either been revived, or died. So it's not really them waiting to be revived, but everyone else waiting to see if or when we can revive them
I mean, only if you assume there's some kind of afterlife. If their consciousness just ceases to exist upon death, and they're never somehow revived, then they're never going to know one way or another, because they're, you know, dead...
@vanessaashford9203 Yea, I think what I said applies afterlife or not. As soon as they die, they will stay dead unless revived. Like how it's said innocent until proven guilty. So unless they are revived, they would just assume they will still be dead, if they are even thinking about that before they die.
Apparently the earliest application of a traditional microwave oven (not the discovery story with the guy who had a chocolate bar in his pocket), was to unfreeze frozen hamsters to rehabilitate them, and it *worked*. That said the experiment concluded that this couldn't be ramped up for larger creatures, including humans, iirc it had to do with the scale of cell structure between smaller and larger organisms (as cells tend to burst when frozen).
I saw that hamster 🐹 microwave device that actually worked and it's fascinating how that stuff actually worked
I get the distinct impression that it didn't work
We do not freeze people lmao, they are preserved using special fluid being pumped in their cells and therefore no ice crystals are formed, this method was first utilized in the year 2000.
@@Danuxsy I'm not talking about how these companies do it, I'm simply saying these experiments with the microwaves and hamsters were done in part to explore if this could be "scaled up", not as a preservation technique, but in a medical or rehabilitation technique for those who reach dangerously low temperatures like frostbite or worse. They concluded that due to cell damage for creatures larger than a small rodent this would not work.
That said, even in Alcor they haven't actually shown what the effects on tissues if thawed to see what the aftermath is, and I suspect that is because achieving a 100% substitution of water in every cell is difficult, and that ignores the process of reintroducing the water BACK into the cells during the thaw process.
@@redroachofficial7388 Shockingly it worked really well. According to the data "almost all subjects were successfully reanimated" after being frozen solid. A key detail is that this wasn't actually like your microwave at home it was precisely calibrated, and to reiterate the test subjects were specifically hamsters, but yeah they would wake up and live the rest of their retired lives relatively normally for a hamster that was frozen solid.
If _some how_ Walt Disney was able to be brought back today he would immediately die upon hearing the state of his beloved Disney corporation.
Doubt it. He was no saint
@@luna.rock39I think he cared for his company, he just had some... Very strong opinions of certain religious groups
@@bungersinyourarea yeah I can agree with that lol
@@bungersinyourarea Yeah but he'd be happy with money made.
Death is scary but becoming soup in a can is worse than terrifying.
Growing up my parents had a small man made Pond with several fish. Every winter they would freeze solid entirely and you could even see them solid in the ice but every summer it would thaw and the fish was fine. I think it depends greatly on the speed in which it freezes and defrosts. Idk I'm not a doc but those fish lived years like that.
How deep was it and how deep was the ice. Most body's of water don't actually freeze and there is a part that is liquid where they could live. Most times only 1 to 3 ft freeze if deeper they might if been fine.
If they were in the ice and frozen that's not possible, usually ponds don't freeze over down until the bottom though
@@glitches911 sorry but that's just not possible, feel free to look it up. They can survive below the ice, in oxygen deprived water for the winter, if the fish freezes it's dead though. Cells don't survive that you know, even if the fish did (which it does not)
@glitches911 No one is "gas lighting" you. Fish stay in water that's under the ice. If they freeze in ice, they die.
@@glitches911 brother, are you a flat earther or something..? You can not just say I am gaslighting you because you do not agree with scientific facts. I'm just telling you they cannot have been physically frozen without dying. Many animals can turn down their metabolism for example to get through times where nutrition and generally energy are hard to come by. I'm sure the fish had barely any oxygen or food and that they most likely barely moved at all under the ice. They cannot have been in the ice, that's all
I would still trust the National Spotlight more than any politician.
Batboy 2024
Weekly World News is the only trustworthy news source.
I'd trust it over Snopes 😂
I'd trust the onion more than anything else.
@@malachiroberts6198 what "party" does he run under?
For a guy whose last name is hope, that one guy sure didn't have much of it when running his cryogenics business.
So there was once an owner of a website dedicated to a kind of obscure game series who unfortunately passed away and her head was frozen by Alcor. I made the mistake of reading the case report Alcor wrote. These people have terrible protocols. Even if cryonics could work there's no way it wasn't too late to meaningfully preserve her brain. The whole report felt like one series of fuckups after another, as well as an experimental desecration of her corpse more than anything actually professional. It utterly destroyed any hope I had in cryonics being possible for humans, at least within this century. If the company can't even keep someone's brain reasonably intact on a macroscopic level long enough to get it into cold storage, what's the point of being frozen at all? Just a waste of electricity...
what game series
@@Test-sd2qp Monster Rancher
@@airysquared ooh it spawned an anime too!
@@airysquared are you talking about Monster Rancher Metropolis? Poor Lisa. :(
They freaking made GLADoS
A uk scientist, James lovelock, froze hamsters then revived them with microwaves back in the 50s. I think they perfected the resurrection eventually but a lot of the hamsters got burns from heating elements. They scaled it up but it wouldn't work on bigger creatures likely because of the depth the microwaves need to penetrate and the varying speeds of thawing as a result. Hamsters just happened to be the perfect size.
The microwaves actually led to fewer burns! They were already reviving the hamsters before they invented the microwave heater, they were just using heated metal tools to quickly defrost them, and _that_ led to a lot of burns. The microwaves were able to penetrate more quickly and evenly so less direct heat, less burns, happier revived hamsters.
@@titaniumvulpes Then Richard Gere volunteered to use his own body heat to revive the frozen hamsters.
Meal-size 😮
...and thus that science led to the invention of the TV dinner.
I don't believe it at all.
Justin Whang opening this video with THE TH-camr narrating creepypasta song made me laugh more than it should have.
Mr creeps I think...
The composer is Myuji and I love his other works. Beautiful and haunting piano music if you need something to chill to.
He got the Scaretheater music playing.
I once heard a Christmas Hallmark Channel movie use one of the recognizable tunes ((that one that's just discordant piano notes like a faint twinkling)) that is also used for Creepypasta narrations, and I nearly choked on my cocoa while laughing.
Good old Mrcreepypasta
"John Wayne's not dead, he's frozen! And as soon as we find a cure for cancer we're gonna thaw out the Duke, and he's gonna be one pretty pissed off Duke.
You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well, multiply that by fifteen million times, that's how pissed off the Duke's gonna be."
You're an asshole for making that post
"Hey Hey!You know you really are an asshole?!"
Ah Dennis Leary, a classic asshole. A Classhole.
I read a Scientific American article back in the early 2000s that said that the natural "antifreeze" in the blood and body fluids of tiny things like insects, but up to fairly large amphibians would be the way to proceed. The idea being that simply freezing, even with liquid nitrogen, is still so uneven that significant portions of the body freeze at the temperature of scarcely below 32F. That results in ice crystal formation in each individual cell, that causes the cell to rupture as it freezes. Everybody has known of this consequence since day one. And part of the technology that would be needed to revive such frozen bodies would be figuring out how to repair all of that cellular damage.
But the antifreeze in certain animal bodies which allows like frogs to freeze solid at the bottom of a lake, literally in suspended animation, keeps them ice crystals from forming and instead of freezing, the frog body undergoes "vitrification". It essentially turns into a piece of glass. The same "antifreeze" (I forget what it was called) then allows normal thawing to take place and the cells are completely undamaged and the frog can then go about its business.
The idea being to derive such a substance that could be infused, embalming style into a human body and thus preclude freezing damage. There might be a bit more delay, but apart from the potential of autolysis, (cells eating their ownselves after death--you got about a few minutes, maybe, from the cessation of vascular circulation, so I'm not sure how you rocket that liquid into the body. Under normal circumstances of life, blood completely circulates the body in about 40 seconds) the cells would then be in a state of perfect pristine anatomical preservation. And yes, they knew about the autolysis issue from day one as well. Then you can put them bodies in the liquid nitrogen tank. I mostly forgot about that article until I saw this video just now. I have no idea if anything came of this research. Or if anything has ever been derived/developed. But as demonstrated by nature, the concept certainly seems sound.
Actual mortuary care is all about dignity and respect. They care for the surviving loved ones in their worst days and allow them to see their dead one last time. The dead are at their most vulnerable, yet are treated with the most respect.
There is nothing more undignified or terrible than stuff like this
From my experience, mortuary care is no different than a shift at McDonalds in the graveyard shift with someone's phone is blasting music near the kitchen sink and some of the crew is drunk others are stoned and the rest are both.
>mortuary care is all about dignity and respect.
And trying to nickle and dime a grieving, vulnerable family out of everything they could get before the corpse gets interred.
Cryogenics has always been a very interesting sci-fi subject, not surprising we're no where near that future though, there's so many systems that are important for life that re-starting them all is, right now, just unthinkable.
How much of it would be you? I mean would you even wake up or would some a hole just be walking around like an unfrozen caveman lawyer where people could oooh ahhh look they're back! We don't know what makes us sentient and have consciousness. Look at Phineas Gage, poor dude. We need way more research in quantum physics and understanding existence before we can even think about bringing people back, at least from an ethical standpoint.
@@devinthieraultYou don't even need to think about consciousness, the time-travel cultural shock would kill you a second time on the spot or overtime unless they made a reservation for fools got frozen.
@@grandsome1 Culture shock? How about bacteria? Or viruses?
@@blunderingfoolhe made a good point tho, even if you could technically do it without destroying every organ in your body. Imagine being frozen in the 60’s and waking up now, how fucking insane the technological and cultural shift that happened? Maybe you don’t even have living relatives anymore…
I think I would lose my mind.
But this technology is so far from real that we haven’t even begun to question about what happens after we revive these people. I doubt they would be functioning members of society without a lot of time and care.
In the mid 2010s people thought path tracing for video games were decades away and now we can run path tracing in real-time already. You do not know how far away we are from cryonics being viable, it could be a century, it could also be by next decade.
13:43 He had every opportunity to call it “It’s Not Easy Being Freezy” but he missed it!
After hearing so many tales from the Internet, it wouldn't surprise me if walt being cryogenically frozen turned out to be a mickey figurine in frozen in a jar with bodily fluids 🥶🤣
This time it's walts piss
I'm not mad that you said it, I'm mad that you're right.
Oh god not the Mickey mouse nut jar💀
>gets cancer
>cryogenically frozen
the year is 3000
>thawed out
>cancer still there
Cancer is curable in year 3000
hurrah! But your family is dead 😢 @@LorinFriend
In high school in like 2004 i did a debate in speech class about cryogenic freezing of people. I was "for" the process and i remember researching Alcor at the time. Crazy to hear about them 20 years later!
If I ever get cryogenically frozen I want to do it in a convenience store freezer, that way I can get Moonpies when I thaw out
My biggest fear is dying, unable to move, speak, all that, but somehow still being aware of what is going on around me and happening to my body. Being buried or cremated sound horrible, but getting shoved in a frozen tube for decades is what nightmares are made of
I fear the same thing. Granted being frozen is before death. You may just be sleeping for cyrogenics.
Yeah that’s pretty much the worst imaginable scenario
That's called (except for the "being dead" part) locked-in syndrome. I heard an interview with a guy who was in this state for many years but eventually came out of it. He said the hospital staff just constantly put on Barney the Dinosaur videos and would then leave the room.
That's completely impossible because there is no brain activity in cryostasis. Even just above freezing, neurons can't communicate.
@@PretzelSage being frozen is done after death, otherwise it would be murder
Interesting fact about goldfish the colder the temperature the longer they will survive without food. Also they can live up to 25 years and they can grow absolutely giant all it depends on is how mcuh food they are given. My brother palmed one of on me 13 years ago when he moved and it's still alive, I never wanted Noblet yet I think he'll outlive me at this point and I had to buy a new tank because he's too big and this was a tank I originally had 3 goldfish in with adequate room.
they're pond fish iirc. they get big
@@corbeaudejugement yep, they're a type of carp and they can grow to somewhere around 5-15 inches depending on the variety
I really want to see Noblet.
But goldfish also don't have stomachs and their food goes right from mouth to anus, and they shit a lot. Sad. Can't have it all.
@@Rickerov I'll show you mine
Not gonna lie, the theory that they named the movie Frozen as a bizarre form of SEO for "Disney's Frozen" is one of those where I gotta love the creativity of whoever came up with it
This video brings up a weird childhood memory. My uncle used to own a gas station in 1996 when I was 11 and I would sometimes hang out in the front office when my dad was there helping out. He had this little old black and white TV with rabbit ears on the desk, that would only pick up like one channel. One afternoon I was sitting there and there just happened to be this random news magazine show on where they were talking all about cryogenics and freezing dead celebrities. I think they may have talked about that Deblasio guy. I found it creepy. What a weird random moment.
I did that with goldfish when I was working at a pet store and we had hundreds of cheap feeder fish. I froze them but some of the water still needed to be liquid in the middle of the water cup for them to reliably be revived. This made sense to me since they can survive winters with their pond freezing, but not if it freezes completely.
ish hibernate on the lower level of the pond in winter, the decay on the floor of the pond acts as an incubator.
I've always wondered if cryogenics would be a good idea to sign up for, it could be possible you wake up in the future and have a weird extended life or it could be horrible. Like what if you wake waaay too far in future and humans look slightly off because of evolution or you turn out to be a freak of nature in a cyborg body.
*RoboCop Has Entered The Chat*
Also everyone you care about will be dead so…REALLY sucky
i mean we only have what 50 years tops till society collapses on itself. theres really no point to it.
Can’t wait to bang Leela the cyclops
Considering how far into the future we might be before we can achive this (big 'if' we could achieve it) you'd be awoken to an unfamiliar world. Unless there were agencys in place, *if* you found your descendants. It wouldn't even matter as you'd be generations removed from them and their lives, everybody you knew and cared about might be gone if they werent also frozen. Your relatives would be tasked with taking care of you bc you wouldnt know the current global state and politics, how currency is valued at the moment, the state of ur country and culture, what technology is common and needed for basic life, as well as dialect and slang being different.
I dont know who would want that for themselves and their family. I'd rather be let to rot under the ground.
In the graphic novel Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis and Darick Robertson they have an interesting spin on chryonics. The story is set far in the future and reviving frozen people is trivial. The problem is that the it turns out the human mind is incapable of handling the shock of returning to world that is unlike anything they have experienced.
Sounds like a pretty stupid premise considering we have had people who lived all their life in tribes that were stuck in time, and these tribesmen escaped and went to modern cities and adapted relatively quickly.
@@SMGJohn_Secondary The present time of Transmetropolitan is "a little bit" extra. It's not in any way the main premise.
I always looked at cryogenics as a gamble:
You die and get frozen, and either the technology to revive you will become available in the future, or it won't and you simply stay dead, thus loosing nothing. The alternative is getting buried/cremated and leaving behind nothing that could potentially be revived.
So it's a miniscule chance for life in the future, versus a guarantee of being gone forever. If I had the money, I would gladly take this gamble. Besides, the kind of technology required to revive someone is basicly molecular/cellular level repair, which could also make you virtually immortal.
I agree. Also, I'm sure you can afford it. Alcor has the most advanced and comprehensive plans, but there are cheaper options. The Cryonics Institute charges $30,000 for whole-body vitrification, and Oregon Brain Preservation charges $8,000 for brain-only freezing. Almost everyone pays with life insurance, though, which can make even Alcor's $80,000 for head-only or $200,000 for whole-body affordable.
It is frustrating having to explain a possition to extremely religious people. There are people talking all through this comment thread about there experience with freezing. Thing is, that isn't cryogenically freezing. My fiance and myself intend to be cryogenically frozen on our deaths as well. The difference is that we don't intend to be revived. We intend to be brought back as a program. In this way, we hope to have our brains brought back to a form of conciousness. We don't care that the odds are extremely low, but it is much higher than relying on religion. Is it so crazy to be revived as a program? I would quite like to see the future, I don't think I will make it there via normal means developed in my life. Though the first functionally immortal person is said to already be born. Whatever your intentions, good luck.
For my part, my brain is already part machine. Rare form of brain tumor that wasn't cancerous...but still took up a huge amount of my brain requiring a pump. I have nothing to lose relying on cryonics.
It's probably better that Walt Disney didn't wake up now and see what happened to current Disney. He would beg to be frozen for another 100 years.
I always heard the story that they'd only frozen his head, and he wanted to be thawed out if Disney was ever in trouble. Though, how he'd run the company without a body is unclear.
I'm the Medical Sergeant for a SAR & Disaster Response. It's absolutely incredible how many times we've found humans and animals frozen (and we thought) to death. Only to find signs of life barely able to register on both our personal equipment or the higher level machines to register as they thaw.
We teach "You're not dead until you're warm and dead."
you left out the smelly and leaking bowels part
I always kinda thought that trying to thaw a frozen dead body might turn out to just causing these ppl immeasurable pain due to tissue/organ/bone damage. It sounds like it could be potentially horrifying
Think about the information in the brain as well. The brain has to stay on to retain that information. Even if you came back and survived there would probably be none of you left. Your brain would be empty ;).
@@nestharus An 'empty brain' = dead.
Yes it would be horrifying bc you can rest assured all these frozen bodies have humongous damage, not only fractures, but cellular and chemical decomposition.
But, they are all dead, so they wont feel anything anymore.
if they try to thaw out a body without having perfected the kinks to that extent, I doubt the person being thawed would be alive or conscious to experience pain
@@nestharus the brain after the few pre-mortem minutes and 1 hour post-mortem minutes are the most vital to map and "save its data" i believe after 1 hour post-mortem the brain itself will begin to die very quickly, no amount of frozen might save most of its content, but maybe some "bits" out of the therabytes sort of speak
The "How To With John Wilson" episode on cryogenic freezing was insane. Worth checking out.
omg yes. absolutely insane. that was the first thing i thought of when i saw this pop up. the part towards the end with the old guy taking about sterilizing himself is so shocking and out of left field. i was already uncomfortable laughing and atp i was on the brink of tears
@@johnathanpumpernickel5532 the method with which he did it was the craziest part.
I'm in that episode.
@@viktorreznov4718 rlly? at what point?
@@johnathanpumpernickel5532 I'm the bald man with the deep voice who talks about the youngest cryopatient and mentions _The Matrix._
The fact that there are creatures that can survive freezing shows the idea at least on paper has merit. Now as to the practical reality of freezing something as complex as a human? Most probably not, but then we also live in an age of technology that 100 years ago would be basically considered magic.
If indeed, Walt was frozen, he’d be spinning in his cryogenic casket from what the Disney company has done to his legacy.
Holy crap Lois, Man made horrors beyond my comprehension!
Growing up I was always terrified of the concept of cryogenics because of the Carbon-Freezing scene in Star Wars. The concept of being frozen, alive or dead, especially against your will was genuinely traumatizing to me. And don't even get me started on the Magic School Bus space episode.
It's moderately expensive, so there's no incentive to do it against one's will.
@@gavinjenkins899 Oh I know, I'm just saying it was an irrational fear I had as a kid. Like "what if someone breaks into my house and puts me in a metal tube" that shit kept me up at night
@@gavinjenkins899 Not unless you really, really, _really_ hate somebody I suppose.
Thank you for not just insulting people who are in cryonics. That's more than many are capable of.
True. They'd be very offended
The insults are richly deserved. it’s selfish to freeze yourself in the hope that everyone will solve all the problems in the world just so you can wake up in the future and reap all the benefits.
@@mushyroom9569 That's an odd way to look at it
@@mushyroom9569 that doesn't make any sense. If the person wasn't frozen, they would be dead anyway, so it's not like they had the choice between being frozen or helping solve the world's problems.
@@7EEVEEit's kind of the only way to look at it
Freezing someone solid would not be the way to go anyway.
We might be able to achieve some form of suspended animation, by keeping someone at .001 above freezing. The expansion of many substances by a hard freeze just does too much damage.
Neuropreservation reminds me of the horrors in That Hiddeous Strength by C.S. Lewis. They preserved a guy's severed head and kept it alive by connecting it to tubes and wires (only for it to be posessed by "Macrobes", i.e. demons)
😮
Imagine if he was actually brought back, and how disappointed he would be in his legacy.
His legacy of sexism, (refusing to hire female animators) His deeply racist early cartoon characters, or his legacy of anti antisemitism? That legacy?
@@DanaTheInsane No, the destruction of his family centered films for an empty non-narrative, nonsense-driven voyeurism full of unabashed provocation in terms of needless "virtue" for an empty profit with failed returns because people have stopped buying it. A tactic that has now been wildly criticized and loathed by both sides. Not the lazy slew of buzzwords you've put together without proper implementation or even spelling, in an attempt to sound profound. Feel free to let the adults talk without you nipping at their heels "dana".
@@DanaTheInsaneboth
Or he would congratulate their evil agenda
@@DanaTheInsane what about his legacy of union busting then?
Holy crap, you actually covered Frozen Dead Guy Days! I stayed in Nederland, CO briefly over the summer for a camping trip with my roommates and found out about it while I was just reading up on the town.
Whatever happened, and whatever will happen, i will always respect both the scientists and the patients for daring to try.
If they start bringing folks back that would be insane. I doubt me or my kids will see it, but if they figure it out, space travel gets veeeeeeeery interesting all of the sudden.
I don’t respect people who run away from the world’s problems and leave the rest of us behind to fix it for them
@@enricofaa9302 The people who elect to have their bodies frozen after they die are running away from problems they created?
@@enricofaa9302 they aren't running...? They died, froze themselves as shortly after as possible in an attempt to come back once science "catches up."
I get the hope of trying to live as long as possible, especially when faced with death. I don't feel the same personally, but many do, so the hope of some extra time is totally understandable.
@@enricofaa9302 tf is anyone supposed to do for you dead? theyll be grinding in the future while your takin the long nap
I'm 62 years old and I 100% remember it going around that Walt Disney was cryogenically frozen as a matter of fact I believed it for 30 years just until 10 years ago or so I always thought it was true I didn't really ever check into it but yeah that rumor went around a lot when I was younger I believe there's so much that I remember helping spread the rumor like I knew what I was talking about
The only reason it worked for Steve Rogers is because he was still alive when he crashed into the ice and had a far stronger molecular structure due to the super soldier serum.
And because here is a comic book character!!
I watched Atrocity Guide's video about cryogenics and became obsessed with the subject for a short while. Glad to have another video to binge watch about the subject
I remember in Jason X they mentioned that the found a bunch of frozen people before but don't bother trying to revive most of them if they're not a person of interest. This video made me think of that lol.
You watched Jason x?
@@TravisW-o9q More watchable than any given Annabelle flick. It's a dumb fun movie and it knows it.
The guy talking about how it used to be cool to do, in less years than the preserved woman and Jason, was both interesting and hilarious.
Jason Voorhees being of such interest that even the body would be worth a ton of money (if he was "human" not a frankenstein's monster or necronomicon creation) was just super telling of the future and the present. Find the dead body of something ancient that had significance and would if, by the movie, he killed so many people and then just dissapeared, it would be a "gold mine." Disturbing yet true. Even fine with letting many guards die to secure him.
Also JasonX is way better than watching a Jason film with orange blood and awful acting, I'll take Jason Lives and/or Kane Hodder Jason anyday.
I'm now remembering the episode of the golden girls where one of them imagines they've had their cryogenically preserved heads thawed out only to end up as talking heads on platters, when Sophia walks in with her new, young body and old head. 🤣
It's good to see the "man with the golden voice" looked like he had his own show, hope he still does.
In Spain, the Walt Disney being frozen myth became so strong, it ended up becoming one of his main traits and ending up in so many pop culture jokes and staples, especially during the 1990s.
It is similar in America. I don't think most actually believe the story to be true but they still make jokes and references. There's an episode of Batman: The Animated Series that has a theme park owner similar to Disney that hires Mr. Freeze to give him the same immortality that Mr. Freeze has.
@@KasumiKenshirouYeah, sure, but in the US the rumor waned a few years after. I'm talking when certain rumors are forgotten in some countries but in others are big and/or exaggerated.
i love when this guy uploads
The highlight in the hair is really well done
I always thought people having cryogenics wouldve done it when they were alive and not when they're already dead.
Maybe cryogenics would have worked if the person is still alive before they died. Cant really be brought back to life if u weren't alive in the first place, y'know
True, though then it becomes a problem of ethics. Since it’s not guaranteed that the freezing will work, it’s kinda murder. If they’re already dead it doesn’t matter.
Makes sense in their head since they are clearly afraid of their own mortality, and I'd assume they are afraid of being killed before they die. Still a bad idea though lol
For some reason this comment reads like a norm macdonald joke to me lol
@@etrs how? I'd understand if it read like my comment is heading up to punchline but idk how mcdonald-y the joke is (I swear I'm not being sarcastic or anything I'm just genuinely curious 😅)
@@Aazel yeah, especially since unless it's a trusted person (family or friends) looking over your dead body, u can't really be sure if ur body's gonna survive
It was science fiction author Poul Anderson who used the word corpesicle for the people cryogenically frozen. He wrote an intriguing story set in the future, where the money to maintain the corpesicles has run out, and transplant medicine has greatly advanced . . .
After watching the vid that seems like a relatively un-gruesome end.
The guy driving the truck with his dead mom reminds me of what Casey Kasem's wife did to him. (Kasem was a famous radio DJ who also did cartoon voices. He was the original Shaggy from Scooby Doo and many others.) Jean Kasem would drive Casey around the country to prevent his kids from another marriage from seeing him. He was in no condition to travel so this killed him. Then she continued driving his dead body around for months and had him buried in a country he had no connection to.
I have had fish freeze and unfreeze in my pond fine. The most crazy one is with frogs and toads, you can find footage of it online they allow themselves to essentially freeze.
But their physiology is way different to ours. I knew frogs did this but the idea of fish casually doing it is crazy!
Coming from someone who's been clinically DOA for over 45mins with total kidney & heart failure before being brought back & put into a medical coma for 2 months, I can say that BEING UNALIVE is VASTLY better than the horrific experience of having your broken, non-functional body forced back to life & forced to keep going for years, decades... It's the worst thing that's happened to me, thru a lifetime of being a medical lab rat... 😬
“medical lab rat” lmao sure buddy
Bro was saved and goes on to treat the medical staff like mad scientists 💀
@@heromedley What else do you call having zero life outside of doctors, hospitals, failed surgeries & countless complications, starting before you even hit 13 & stealing your entire life?? Again, trolls just LOVE to declare how they know more about me than I do! 🙄🙄🙄
@@BernicePandersyou know the word “no” exists, right?
"Fuck you guys for not wanting me to die!" Is basically what I got out of that.
I think it’s an interesting field to study and respect to the people actually trying to progress science, either as researchers or donating their bodies, but those companies selling it as a service are complete scum
Yeah the legit science stuff is pretty neat it has a lot of interesting possibilities. But the service part is essentially scam calls to the elderly.
Giving false hope to people with deep enough pockets. I would never try to talk someone out of it but honestly it's so pathetic.
You think this is free or something?
Have you never paid a bill before or what
@@ChadDidNothingWrongThe company’s have no credentials, if actual scientists worked there it’d be fine, but the company’s are run by a bunch of frauds throwing ice on dead people. That’s what the problem is.
It's an unproven science that has never had a single successful outcome, and they're selling it like it's some magical cure to save your loved ones
There's a reason people are payed to do drug trials even though proven medicine costs money @@ChadDidNothingWrong
@@ChadDidNothingWrong selling something (the something in this case being people's remains being frozen by their loved ones in the hopes they'll be revived) with the knowledge that you're doing a shitty job and having little confidence in the service you're providing, is in fact scummy.
When lakes/ponds freeze, the fish go to the deepest parts of the water and "rest". This rest is when their heart rate slows down, the need for food (and most importantly oxygen) decreases. Basically metabolic functions slow down significantly. But this process isn't permanent and fish still need that water around them (they are still getting oxygen just less so and even in frozen lakes there is still water). A similar process works for amphibians and reptiles who go into a state of hibernation.
Tardigrades, Wooly Bear larvae (it's a caterpillar), and some beetles are all pretty good at surviving icy temperatures.
Wood frogs are stellar at this, they don't have a heartbeat or even need to breath when frozen. eventually they thaw and walk it off. It's a preservation that a lot of cryogenic facilities strive for. All the preservation without the debilitating and irreversible damage caused by the freezing process.
RIP that one guys fish.
The founder of ALCOR may have murdered his mother for his work. That’s a wild story in and of itself.
Saul Kent was not the founder of Alcor (that was Fred Chamberlain III along with his wife Linda), and Saul had his mother cryopreserved immediately after her clinical death from old age. He didn't do it "for his work" (what do you even mean by that?). He did it because his mother was dying and he loved her and wanted to see her again. He entered cryostasis this year.
@@viktorreznov4718 except for the fact that people there attested to a corner inquiry that he was administering barbiturates before her death, and won a court case to avoid testing her tissue that was left for those chemicals.
Cryonic burial is not viewed as a legitimate science or medical approach, and their own case reports from before 2021 were An absolute horror show of ineptitude and poor preparedness.
Fun fact: ALCOR administers cardioplegic medications and non-scheduled anesthetic agents because their “standby” teams give the same dose of resuscitative vasopressors and resuscitative measures called for by ACLS “after” natural death. They do this because after “legal death” it’s an anatomical donation.
If you want to know why this is an absolute horror show - look up “CPR awareness”
You do what you want - it’s after all your money - but don’t pretend it’s nothing more than a gambit on applied phlebonium.
I think you should do more videos like this. They're very interesting and i love them
It would be great if he made a whole channel of “Tales From The Internet” videos!
One day, maybe...
I always assumed you would have to be alive to be cryogenically frozen with the intention of being brought back.
Imagine if they did find a way to thaw people but it doesn't work with the old freezing method
If we manage cryogenics in humans, that's likely what would happen
That's what I figure will happen. The ice crystals formed by the current methods burst the cell walls so I don't think current cryogenically frozen bodies could ever be revived.
I love how in Fallout 4, Bethesda made a reference to Walt Disney in their Nuka World DLC. It was funny and terrifying at the same time, to say the least.
I get the feeling, freezing isn't the way, we would need to find a way to actually do suspended animation, where time actually stops in the bubble.
*_Imagine waking up from cryo and finding out that your wife has been killed and your child kidnapped, and then find out your kid grew up to be a big ol' jerk._*
Everywhere I go, I find fallout references
Wait a fucking second-
KELLOGG!
And the world went to shit while you powernapped creating gigantic fucking dinosaur things that want nothing more than to eat your ass and not in a fun way
Imagine if people played the good Fallouts instead of the shitty ones
I just now realized, why did all the celebrity heads in jars choose to be heads in jars when they couldve just been frozen like fry
Ah. Cryogenics. One of those dreams nobody has ever made real, and might never happen at all.
Actually, if we ever hope to go to other galaxies, it has to be made real. So, you are wrong. It probably will happen all things considered.
We have succesfully frozen and thawed hamsters in the ‘50s, it was actually how microwaves were invented. The microwaves were used to unthaw the hamsters. Hamsters are small enough that antifreeze can soak into all their cells before it kills them. The hamsters usually lived a couple months after being unfrozen.
@@thelastohioan7145 a couple of months is not a good enough outcome.
Like communism!
@@AllTheOthers there are other ways to put someone in stasis which might be more efficient. But if I ever get frozen, may it be so that my body becomes food
One of the cryo facilities where they store frozen bodies lost power once, potentially ruining all of their subjects. I think it's a far fetched pipedream. Being brought back to life but I like the idea of Futurama's heads in the jars
Cartoons really did trick a whole generation of people into thinking "yeah, extreme cold is able to keep people frozen without aging for centuries and you can thaw them out and they'll live." I can think of 3 shows with that premise.
gooner
Icelandic TH-camr mörges did that fly thing with a bumblebee once and it worked. She walked it on a string leash outside. lol
Love this series
The issue is that water expands when frozen, rupturing cell walls. It’s the reason that frozen fruit is mushy when thawed.
That's why vitrification is used instead of freezing. Vitrified rabbit and rat kidneys have already been recovered.
What really happened to Walt Disney after he died was his head was cut off and attach to a robot body to keep it alive. But he had to eat children to keep the head alive. Cuban children wore said to be his favorite and that's why they built the theme parks in florida.
Okay.
The better plan would be developing a “re-gestation chamber”, placing the body in a prolonged regenerative hibernate state, while the body is being repaired via exogenous methods that are natural to the human body, maybe some DNA repair & gene editing may also be necessary before & after the fact. The only part holding me back is I have absolutely no clue how any of this stuff is going to work lol! I’ve only been a bio systems engineering grad for less than a year so…🤷♂️…I do have my theories though😂 So if there are any Doctors or scientists in the comments, please feel free to chime in with some ideas, especially Endocrinologists, Pharmacologists, Neuroscientists, Surgeons, and biochemists/molecular biologists, we can do this 💪😂.
This sounds rad as hell
You support cryogenics so you can find the key to immortality.
I support cryogenics so I can make ice swords out of thin air like Sub Zero.
*We are not the same.*