No, and they don't even bother. Break again = good for business 🤣😂 Also if you pay attention, when they load it to the lathe, its clear that it was already welded before, and broken ... so this is just another weld added.
These poor guys are doing their very best. Unfortunately they have been unable to go to any real welding school, so they’re just doing what looks right. But actually far from right. Expect this axle back within 3 months.
Doesn't even look right. I've done a lot of such repairs and I cringe throughout this. Likewise I admire their spirit and work ethics anyway, but in my biz--quality comes first, I don't want to ever see same failure coming back to me so if it takes 3X longer that's what I'll do.
I'll give them credit for doing one thing correct, they are starting from the inside and working out, can't tell you how many times I've seen "repairs" that just went over the top of the crack or halfway thru it, guaranteed imminent fail.
They have all the necessary basic tools required to execute the extreme rectification job coupling to the skilled worker in place make this task a successful accomplishment. Well done my friend......appreciate all the hard work put in for this video.
@@mangopog9814 Welding cast steel is generally fine, cast *iron* is another animal, but there should be no castings involved here anyway. Two formed halves welded down the center line OEM.
It’s so funny how many people complain and say it won’t work. It works. Been there done that. Once done it’s stronger than new and will break somewhere else. You will get a stronger wild if you remove the contamination first. Other than that it’s fine.
@@AChao88 Alberta Journeyman Welder 1st Class with Alberta "B" Pressure Welder certificate on top of the J-man here. I wouldn't give him more than $100 for that shoddy repair. First fault is lack of any pre-heat prior to welding. There was NO preparation for a proper root pass, the welder's start/stop procedure was amateurish at best and he should have used stringer beads rather than atrociously wide weaves. My first clue that the welder is an amateur was the fact that he didn't wear gloves while burning rod and held his mask in his hand. GUARANTEED his welds are full of porosity and slag inclusions which will lead to cracking through the weld. The lack of preheat will increase odds of cracking in the HAZ beside the welds.
@@AChao88 I've been doing these sorts of jobs for nearly 45 yrs and this would NEVER have my name anywhere near it. I respect them for work effort ethics but NOT work quality ethics.
@@bradbergman3673 In the UP car shop we would clean the wheel trucks up and run .045 wire uphill to hold them together. The weaving would do all the preheating but I would not do a stick this way. I don't know how he stands all the sparks hitting his bare hands.
@@bradbergman3673 : I was surprised no care was taken for the dust and metal particles that could have gone inside the enclosure due to the cracks. Should have this handled someone or is it fine? Thanks.
Truckers Motto "It is not loaded until it is OVERLOADED!" Good welds, bad prep and too thin and probably soft, doubler/reinforcement. Truss or gussets there
Rapaz vocês são bons na recuperação de peças Aqui no Brasil logística compra outra peça nova Guys, you guys are good at recovering parts Here in Brazil, logistics buys another new part
4:43 Cool beans, he is using the stick welder as an improvised gravity fed arc gouger. Never seen this done before. Would have been even cooler if he had been wearing the obligatory safety sandals, instead of shoes...
You should on those axles those strips of plate steel before you wield them on is drill some one to 1.50 holes down the middle then when you wield them on also wield up the holes and that will make it stronger 💪💪💪
For all the criticism that repair probably cost the owner $15. Even if it lasts 1 year its still worth it but I suspect they’ll get at least 3yrs out of it.
Però non sono riuscita a capire per quale motivo durante la maggior parte delle riprese non hanno MAI appoggiato il differenziale dal lato appiattito ma quasi SEMPRE da quello "bombato" , rendendo così decisamente più difficoltoso il suo trasporto , per il resto video più che ECCELLENTE ❣️
See everyone doesn't realize See all the dirt everywhere, well that get's into the welds and makes the welds stronger than the original forging because it's better than borax, and see they don't wear gloves either and so some skin cells get in there also to help with no porosity and yeah 100% almost better than new, Oh and their shoes with no steel toe helps with their welding balance! =)
Usually like what these guys try to do, but not this one! No weld preparation. Original reinforcement (not good enough for what they do to the truck) Is then cut off , but replaced with equally bad weld prep. And its now got a butt weld right near the max stress point! Surprised they actually did remove the reinforcing plate---I expected them to just weld the lot in one go !!
you're suppoed to drill out the ends of cracks, guys. If you dont, the piece is likely to just keep cracking.. also, you have to grind a "v" into small cracks, or your weld is not likely to have adequate penetration and strength.
ICweld, alastairC, and Curtis from cutting edge engineering all say they don’t care about drilling the ends of a crack and that it doesn’t matter. And they are some of the most experienced heavy equipment repairmen in the entire world
@@jf7393 Well, then they have never encountered a *da/dn* curve. Drill out the end of cracks as it bring the stress concentration factor back down to 2.
@@andrewlayton9760 my mistake I didn’t realize we had a wikipedia engineer available. you should go peruse those guys’ channels and explain to them in the comments why they’re doing it wrong. don’t forget to subscribe
@@jf7393 Little Boy, welds do not perform well in fatigue, the base material now has heat effected zones and residual stresses, and they embedded a stress riser.
@@andrewlayton9760 you’ve never talked like that to someone ever in your life except on the internet which is coincidentally where you got your engineering degree. Sad little angry internet tough guy
Its like people are not watching the same video im watching. To respond to thr criticsms: 1) "they didnt straighten it out so its still misaligned." Yes they did. They put it in a big press and adjusted it. I can't say for certain they hot they alignment right. But it certinly was addressed. If its not alighned its not because they didn't bother irys because they made an error and didnt get it straight enough 2) "They didnt grind it out they just welded it up so the weld is contaminated and weak." Not true, while they didnt use a grinder, thry did v out the crack. They used arc gouging instead. Perfectly good technique. 3) "its cast iron sp it will break again": Look at the way the strap is welded to the top. Thats either stamped ir cast steel. I think its actually atamped, then thebpieces are welded together. 4) "They just welded the crack right across and it will break again" Once again, not true. They arc gouged the steel strap over the top and took a piece out. That piece goes from half way up on the round portion of the housing to half way down the left "tube" Then they arc gouged the crack, and then weldes it up. Once that was done they replaced the strap. The welds on the strap is not over the erld on the tube. In fact they are quite far from it. The one half way up the "pumkin" isnt in a stressful spot at all and the other is a good distance from the crack. Looking at the crack, the welds will be under tension. Its unlikely they willl break under those conditions unless its overloaded, but thats not going yo ve the shops failt. Since its mild steel if he properly chose his filler the repair should be close in strength to the original axel material. So this was a totally legitimate repair There are only a few minor things i would have done differently. For example i would have drilled the crack with a 1/2" drill bit.
Aligning it incorrectly isn’t aligning it. Those aren’t gouging electrodes…the slag in the metal gives that away That housing is 100% cast. Anything else you need to know?
these guys do miracles! In EU the workers will just order the part from the original manufacturer and pay like 1/3 of the truck cost if not more and guess what? The new part will fail next week.
That will not last it crack open again best to scrap it and get a replacement one seen these welded up before never hold for to long the welding heats up the steel to much
Notice that he usually does zero weld prep on bottom layers, and just welds on top of old flux, as he goes. Then he takes a bigger rod, and makes a prettier weld on top layer, to cover it up. Since labor costs are cheap, I suspect this is due to laziness, or maybe grinder discs cost a monthly wage each...
I AM LOST FOR WORDS ,,WHAT A FANTASTIC SET OF WORKERS ,,VERY WELL DONE
Will posters STOP the fiddling with thumbnails! It’s morally wrong to mislead us.
All ready for the truck to be overloaded again.
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I love these old school skills and kinda tired of the comments from the fancy machine shops. These people are masters of old world tech.
They aren't masters of anything. They're doing the best they know how, but that best isn't very good.
compared to other shops, this one is clean and neat. well organized
These brothers can fixed anything
Legend has it there are truck rears in India made of 100% welding rods.
This is in Pakistan. It may be happening in India, but yet see a video.
MASHALLAH Allah Ap Ki Rozi Mein Barkat Dale Ameen
It will hold. What an amazing welder.
Have these guys ever heard of a grinder and weld prep?? That job will be good for one overload and it will break again.
Pay more attention and you may learn a thing or two.
Good for future business😊
No, and they don't even bother. Break again = good for business 🤣😂 Also if you pay attention, when they load it to the lathe, its clear that it was already welded before, and broken ... so this is just another weld added.
They fixed 1 for me exactly like this 1. That was 8 heavy loaded yrs ago. Next
@@Bugnarokthat could have been yrs ago. Pretty good value for about 15 bucks
These poor guys are doing their very best. Unfortunately they have been unable to go to any real welding school, so they’re just doing what looks right. But actually far from right. Expect this axle back within 3 months.
Doesn't even look right. I've done a lot of such repairs and I cringe throughout this.
Likewise I admire their spirit and work ethics anyway, but in my biz--quality comes first, I don't want to ever see same failure coming back to me so if it takes 3X longer that's what I'll do.
I'll give them credit for doing one thing correct, they are starting from the inside and working out, can't tell you how many times I've seen "repairs" that just went over the top of the crack or halfway thru it, guaranteed imminent fail.
They have all the necessary basic tools required to execute the extreme rectification job coupling to the skilled worker in place make this task a successful accomplishment. Well done my friend......appreciate all the hard work put in for this video.
And another failure in the future not to mention welding cast steel which is a huge no, no.
@@mangopog9814 Welding cast steel is generally fine, cast *iron* is another animal, but there should be no castings involved here anyway. Two formed halves welded down the center line OEM.
@@mangopog9814 nothing in this video is cast anyways
recertification? over there they still use 60 and 70 tech.grease in their wheel bearings and no highway load limits.what recertification?
@@timmyhipbird7543 That's why I love this country - simple life, no no bullshit.
Watching these guys reminds me of the stories my old uncle often told me, all about the R.E.M.E. workshops doing repairs in the field during ww2.
This is real repair work, you guys in modern service center just doing replace work.
It all comes down to overloading the truck, put 20 ton on something meant to carry 10 ton, something will fail.
Add in the fact that roads are non-existent and it's all "off-road"
that man is a good welder.nice and smooth with good penteration
larry in INDIANA USA
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Those guys can do anything with nothing. Definitely old school
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عمل ممتاز جدا
It’s so funny how many people complain and say it won’t work. It works. Been there done that. Once done it’s stronger than new and will break somewhere else. You will get a stronger wild if you remove the contamination first. Other than that it’s fine.
all parts get a generous coating of fresh dirt before final assembly, assuring return business!
they even save the wasted welding rods particles.. amazing
Slightly better than repairing it with wood.
But what a wonderfull Weld :)
Không biết độ bền sau sửa chữa ra sao nhưng thấy chỗ hư hỏng được sửa rất tốt. Người thợ Pakistan rất lành nghề
Brilliant work.Good video👍💪
very well done, I have seen some of these repairs last long considering how they overload these trucks...
that axle looks like it was already reinforced
I LOVE WATCHING THESE GUYS AND THAT CAPED CRUSADER
the titles are the best parts of these uploads!
I love these people !
With such good and cheap repair facilities available, the truckers are shure to overload
I'm no welder, but I worked in a foundry. This is a dubious repair.
u no welder so u do not know
@@AChao88 Alberta Journeyman Welder 1st Class with Alberta "B" Pressure Welder certificate on top of the J-man here. I wouldn't give him more than $100 for that shoddy repair. First fault is lack of any pre-heat prior to welding. There was NO preparation for a proper root pass, the welder's start/stop procedure was amateurish at best and he should have used stringer beads rather than atrociously wide weaves. My first clue that the welder is an amateur was the fact that he didn't wear gloves while burning rod and held his mask in his hand. GUARANTEED his welds are full of porosity and slag inclusions which will lead to cracking through the weld. The lack of preheat will increase odds of cracking in the HAZ beside the welds.
@@AChao88 I've been doing these sorts of jobs for nearly 45 yrs and this would NEVER have my name anywhere near it. I respect them for work effort ethics but NOT work quality ethics.
@@bradbergman3673 In the UP car shop we would clean the wheel trucks up and run .045 wire uphill to hold them together. The weaving would do all the preheating but I would not do a stick this way. I don't know how he stands all the sparks hitting his bare hands.
@@bradbergman3673 : I was surprised no care was taken for the dust and metal particles that could have gone inside the enclosure due to the cracks.
Should have this handled someone or is it fine?
Thanks.
Truckers Motto "It is not loaded until it is OVERLOADED!" Good welds, bad prep and too thin and probably soft, doubler/reinforcement. Truss or gussets there
Grinding with a Whiz Wheel! Haven't we all done that?
Trucks are overloaded often in certain counties. How long will it last? It may well be stronger than a new one?
I am an Engineer.That is a good job
done.To me,the Housing looks
like it is made from Cast Iron.
If you thought stick welding dirty cast iron with no preheat was a good repair, you are not an engineer.
Rapaz vocês são bons na recuperação de peças
Aqui no Brasil logística compra outra peça nova
Guys, you guys are good at recovering parts
Here in Brazil, logistics buys another new part
Very good work !! 👍👍👍
4:43 Cool beans, he is using the stick welder as an improvised gravity fed arc gouger. Never seen this done before. Would have been even cooler if he had been wearing the obligatory safety sandals, instead of shoes...
Muy muy bueno sus trabajos😊
I like the way the trucks are painted in rainbow colors and that the employees are allowed to wear dresses. 🌈
Nice bead work. That repair is good for at least an additional 2500 kgs of gross truck weight.
LOL!
Stone Age ‘engineering’
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Good old British Tools still hard at work.
That repair was done very well its stronger than the manufacturers spec.
Garbage work guaranteed to fail if used to half original capacity.
You should on those axles those strips of plate steel before you wield them on is drill some one to 1.50 holes down the middle then when you wield them on also wield up the holes and that will make it stronger 💪💪💪
For all the criticism that repair probably cost the owner $15. Even if it lasts 1 year its still worth it but I suspect they’ll get at least 3yrs out of it.
Unless it results in someone dying. This repair is not safe.
Però non sono riuscita a capire per quale motivo durante la maggior parte delle riprese non hanno MAI appoggiato il differenziale dal lato appiattito ma quasi SEMPRE da quello "bombato" , rendendo così decisamente più difficoltoso il suo trasporto , per il resto video più che ECCELLENTE ❣️
See everyone doesn't realize See all the dirt everywhere, well that get's into the welds and makes the welds stronger than the original forging because it's better than borax, and see they don't wear gloves either and so some skin cells get in there also to help with no porosity and yeah 100% almost better than new, Oh and their shoes with no steel toe helps with their welding balance! =)
You would starve to death there.
Those are cast parts not forged, the reason it’s doomed, cast can’t be welded without bringing the part up to near melting point.
@@mangopog9814 Preheat and then cooling slowly is the best for cast.
@@mangopog9814You would starve
And there it is. The lame, oh so original, shoe comment. They do just fine
you should put second plate because first is too weak
Usually like what these guys try to do, but not this one! No weld preparation. Original reinforcement (not good enough for what they do to the truck)
Is then cut off , but replaced with equally bad weld prep. And its now got a butt weld right near the max stress point! Surprised they actually did remove the reinforcing plate---I expected them to just weld the lot in one go !!
It’ll be fine.
Love the skill so natural 😊
done good for another 30 ton load then back to the shop for more welds
I wouldn't let them repair my wheelbarrow 😮
И все таки великие труженики!
you're suppoed to drill out the ends of cracks, guys. If you dont, the piece is likely to just keep cracking.. also, you have to grind a "v" into small cracks, or your weld is not likely to have adequate penetration and strength.
ICweld, alastairC, and Curtis from cutting edge engineering all say they don’t care about drilling the ends of a crack and that it doesn’t matter. And they are some of the most experienced heavy equipment repairmen in the entire world
@@jf7393 Well, then they have never encountered a *da/dn* curve. Drill out the end of cracks as it bring the stress concentration factor back down to 2.
@@andrewlayton9760 my mistake I didn’t realize we had a wikipedia engineer available. you should go peruse those guys’ channels and explain to them in the comments why they’re doing it wrong. don’t forget to subscribe
@@jf7393 Little Boy, welds do not perform well in fatigue, the base material now has heat effected zones and residual stresses, and they embedded a stress riser.
@@andrewlayton9760 you’ve never talked like that to someone ever in your life except on the internet which is coincidentally where you got your engineering degree. Sad little angry internet tough guy
Great work.
Won’t last in the conditions it lives in!
Its like people are not watching the same video im watching. To respond to thr criticsms:
1) "they didnt straighten it out so its still misaligned."
Yes they did. They put it in a big press and adjusted it. I can't say for certain they hot they alignment right. But it certinly was addressed. If its not alighned its not because they didn't bother irys because they made an error and didnt get it straight enough
2) "They didnt grind it out they just welded it up so the weld is contaminated and weak."
Not true, while they didnt use a grinder, thry did v out the crack. They used arc gouging instead. Perfectly good technique.
3) "its cast iron sp it will break again":
Look at the way the strap is welded to the top. Thats either stamped ir cast steel. I think its actually atamped, then thebpieces are welded together.
4) "They just welded the crack right across and it will break again"
Once again, not true. They arc gouged the steel strap over the top and took a piece out. That piece goes from half way up on the round portion of the housing to half way down the left "tube" Then they arc gouged the crack, and then weldes it up. Once that was done they replaced the strap. The welds on the strap is not over the erld on the tube. In fact they are quite far from it. The one half way up the "pumkin" isnt in a stressful spot at all and the other is a good distance from the crack. Looking at the crack, the welds will be under tension. Its unlikely they willl break under those conditions unless its overloaded, but thats not going yo ve the shops failt. Since its mild steel if he properly chose his filler the repair should be close in strength to the original axel material.
So this was a totally legitimate repair
There are only a few minor things i would have done differently. For example i would have drilled the crack with a 1/2" drill bit.
U heeft er duidelijk naast gestaan
Aligning it incorrectly isn’t aligning it.
Those aren’t gouging electrodes…the slag in the metal gives that away
That housing is 100% cast.
Anything else you need to know?
Good job 👍
You have got to be kidding me. Don't try to fix and return junk back to service. It just doesn't last.
I'm not a welder, but people I know who are have told me that often the strength of a weld exceeds the strength of the material being welded.
these guys do miracles!
In EU the workers will just order the part from the original manufacturer and pay like 1/3 of the truck cost if not more and guess what? The new part will fail next week.
Great work, but how overloaded was it for the axle to break in the first place?
in pakistan we everything do overload and see it will work or not some time it do sometime it break
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Молодцы мужики, настоящие мастера своего дела, всё сделали быстро и качественно. Ставлю жирный лайк.
ты наверное бухгалтер или юрист
Maestro lei è un chirurgo molto esperto complimenti veramente
Strange, we grind before we weld, but then again they drive on the left also...
What a bodge up, as a coded welder (ASME9) I couldn’t bring myself to watch the whole video 😢
I wonder if anyone in the US would even attempt to repair this?
المفروض ان يتم استبدال كامل تيوب الَاكس. ووضع القطع السليمه من التوب القديم وترحيلها للتيوب الجديد
Молодцы нет слов кто то водкой заливается кто то чем то занимается полезным
Goede vakmanschap perfect gemaakt.
Bela soldagem 👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Muito top demais parabéns pelo seu trabalho maravilhoso
So many negative comments
When people make their living at something
It means the end result is good
This was america 100 years ago
That man has serious arc gouging skills.
Use rot 7018 easy
I guess this rear end was trashed before, given the fact there’s no gears in it and the face of the center was blanked off by a welded plate
That will not last it crack open again best to scrap it and get a replacement one seen these welded up before never hold for to long the welding heats up the steel to much
But I must say that that piece was already welded before.
عمل جيد وعمال ماهرون نتمنى التوفيق للجميع 🌷🌹🌷
They should have painted it to look more presentable.
Mechanically they pull some crazy stuff off. But often they have no reguard for weights.
I wonder if the original break had a defect in the bolster plate to crack so cleanly. Nice work with primitive techniques.
You would have to have seriously overloaded that axle to do this. I'm sure they'll do it again.
On closer inspection, yes it apparently seems to have been re-plated and welded before.
Notice that he usually does zero weld prep on bottom layers, and just welds on top of old flux, as he goes. Then he takes a bigger rod, and makes a prettier weld on top layer, to cover it up. Since labor costs are cheap, I suspect this is due to laziness, or maybe grinder discs cost a monthly wage each...
Its really impressive!😮
Give those workers gluf and las helmets omg
no gloves, even welding .. tough guys
Erschreckend wie weit diese Menschen der Steinzeit sehr nahe sind 😢
I guess the welding mask works😮
Its like people are not watching the same video im watching
eu tenho assistido vídeo desta turma e não me canso de ver tanta gambiarra é por isso q não falta serviço aí pra eles
Pro professionals!
Отличная работа!!!
Exelente trabajo señotes, saludos desde California 🤝🤛🙏🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴
Very good job, well done !!!
Good welds for not prepping it
They can fix anything but they can also break anything