I think the most fun part of Resolving Vigor in the archive is that it can be extended by the vision that extends heals over time! Throwing out an 8 second green vigor feels so strong
Put this together last night and got Inkslayer on first run! Great build that outright carries! This is the third build of yours I have used as inspiration and the results are always great! Thank you!
Hi Adam! Thats awesome! Thank you so much for coming back to let me know, it REALLY makes my day. GREAT WORK! I ran a newer set up on the Warden through and ended up mid Arc 9. I just posted that build screen shot in Discord (ESO STUFF> GENERAL CHAT) if you were interested in that as well.
Thanks Dooma. I´ve never thought that DOT build can be fun. But your enthusiasm conviced me to try your previous version of the warden and I am having a blast! Looking forward to try this new setup 🙂. Thank you for your hard work to put up all this great content.
Created this build over the weekend and it's great. Slow but steady. With a partner it's perfect. I let them know how, "I'm not a tank but I'm tankish"
Haha there you go, thank you for sharing! I posted this in discord a bit ago that may help as well: "For those using the new Warden build: Its way overkill defensively for the first few Arcs. A fairly large quality of life increase you can do in this area is to drop vigor and bring in Crushing Shock. I tested it out and 1 lightweaves C.Shock kills or almost kills most of the lesser adds in Arc 1 ish. So throw dots out, weave a bit of C.Shock around and kill things (even if you are unable to lightweave well, still just use the ability) and weave in intermittent heavy attacks to keep magicka up. Youll get through much faster than waiting on unmodified dots to chew through everything. One of the biggest responses has been the lack of damage in early arcs. Thats just a byproduct of the design. The whole intent of the build is to grow in strength as you get deeper into the archive. Once you get to arc 3-4 area with a bit of vision rng you should start to get in stride and then shortly after that (or even in that area if you had good rng) the build really takes off. Its a heavy armor wearing, 64 attribute points into health, Tank CP, health food using, Ice staff heavy attack 1 bar build using sets that don't add "real" damage on their own. The unmodified damage should be expected to be terrible. Just do what you have to do to get through Arc 1-2 if you need more umph behind it, then by Arc 3/4 you should start to feel the build pick up."
Believe it or not, one of the two sets I use on my fun Warden frost build is Ice furnace. And now I see the first video where someone actually utilizes it. This reason alone is enough for me to try it.
Hi Dooma, the dps is less than the version running deadly. Why does survivability go up with Serpent denial? What is the trick with the gear setup that gets this to arc level 8?
Hey buddy all of that is explained in the video. I go over the gear set up piece by piece and explain how we increase our defensive strength. Regarding Serpent's Disdain, it increases our offensive output and extends out important dots that really start to come into play in later arcs when you are kiting around 20 mobs with over a million hp each while also carthweeling around Tho'at shards. The 5 set from it isnt intended to increase survivability.
Just got my warden to CP. It's a healer but I wanted to make a one bar loadout for EA. Can't wait to try this. I use your One bar Arcanist pvp build for Cyrodiil and it works great so I know your theory crafting is legit
If youre willing to lose the damage, the shielding glyph is awesome as well. Especially with a few stacks of augmented enchants. Made it to 8 1 2 with it.
I've been wanting an ice themed build as well, though unfortunately I've been trying to make it a 1 bar sword & shield build...this helps in that direction, especially learning more about the ice furnace set. Thanks for the video!
Defo gonna try this out! Thanks for the detailed guide💪🏻 for this build what verses and visions should you be aiming for? Keep up the good work mate❤️💪🏻
You are very welcome Michel and I hope you enjoy it! The main vision you should always go for is Focused Efforts. As many as you can get, every time. You also want the one that gives the bleed when you heavy attack and Scorching Support. From there its all the usual stuff that's strong for every build. You can mostly avoid anything stamina, direct damage, or physical/martial damage related.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the chilled proc a one time damage tick then applies chilled/brittle? Wouldn't you want it to proc repeatedly as much as possible instead of extending it's duration. With + 1500% status effect dmg, it hits for like 50k+ and you can potentially get it to proc several times per second as well as constantly burning with heartlands/charged with furnace. I played around with a full tank warden with heartlands+frozen watcher with balance double ice staff and back bared weaken, front bar charged. Hold block (frozen watcher channels chill around you while blocking, procing chilled nearly every second on everything within 8 meters) and cast your two frost aoes and ele sus, 45k health and max res with pale order. It was very very easy up to arc 8 but I was only at attunement 2, with 3 it would be extremely strong. I had to leave my house so rip that run.
Hi Rob! Early on in EA people figured out status effects were king. To this point Heartlands + Charged is very strong. A few videos went out around youtube and people on twitch streaming heartlands and everyone jumped on heartlands as the "must have set" for the Warden. People are forgetting chilled is 1 single damage source, out of many (Although very strong. This also has to do with deadly vs. heartland people were unsure about.). Yes heartlands can juice chilled to very high levels. However, with this type set up, we have taken burning and poisoned and made the whole package comparable. Once you get into very high Arcs, you will be doing MUCH more kiting and running around trying to live (Arc 7+ is a whole different world), which is when this type of set up REALLY shines (although it is quite strong in general damage wise after about Arc 3 or so), when you are running around bleeding out enemies with dots. Sometimes every single second is a circus act just to stay alive, for multiple minutes in a row. Youll be dropping winters revenge constantly like normal, but the effectiveness of its concentration takes a hit, and likewise a bit of your chilled effectiveness. If frost damage isnt rolling, chilled isnt procing. However, once burning and poisons get rolling on targets, they dont let up. 20 seconds a proc for burning vs 4, is an insane amount of lasting pressure you get to add that does the work for you without another button press required, especially if RNG was kind to you with decent Focus Supports stacks. Yesterday I did an Arc 8-4 run with the DK version and showed how just applying juiced burning with Serpents is literally all you need to push high. I had 2 total damage sources on my bars from about Arc 6 to Arc 8-4. One of them entropy for heals, one of them burning embers to apply instant burning. Yes its the DK and not the Warden, but the implication is the same. Long lasting, very hard hitting status effects, can be equally as effective when used properly, on any class, vs just procing them a lot. This is what I know. Heartlands versions are strong, but also so is this version. With heartlands I didnt make it out of arc 6/7 area. With multiple versions of Serpents, I consistently hit the Arc 8 area. So individual ability and play style will definitely have a factor on which version is better for which person. I suspect before Arc 6 area or so, it doesn't matter either way. This is just putting another option on the table for people to consider if it lines up with their needs/interest. Even though I personally did better with Serpents, I am not trying to posture it against Heartlands. I appreciate the comment. I took a bit extra time to explain my thoughts on it thoroughly so I can also use this as a reference for others with similar thoughts as well. The heartlands comment/question is quite consistent. Thank you!
Been having awesome success with this build. Thanks very much for making it. Being rather new to this type of fighting, it seems to be taking a long time to kill things. What is your recommendation on skill rotation? thanks.
Hi Henri! Here is a response to this I put in Discord yesterday: For those using the new Warden build: Its way overkill defensively for the first few Arcs. A fairly large quality of life increase you can do in this area is to drop vigor and bring in Crushing Shock. I tested it out and 1 lightweaves C.Shock kills or almost kills most of the lesser adds in Arc 1 ish. So throw dots out, weave a bit of C.Shock around and kill things (even if you are unable to lightweave well, still just use the ability) and weave in intermittent heavy attacks to keep magicka up. Youll get through much faster than waiting on unmodified dots to chew through everything. One of the biggest responses has been the lack of damage in early arcs. Thats just a byproduct of the design. The whole intent of the build is to grow in strength as you get deeper into the archive. Once you get to arc 3-4 area with a bit of vision rng you should start to get in stride and then shortly after that (or even in that area if you had good rng) the build really takes off. Its a heavy armor wearing, 64 attribute points into health, Tank CP, health food using, Ice staff heavy attack 1 bar build using sets that don't add "real" damage on their own. The unmodified damage should be expected to be terrible. Just do what you have to do to get through Arc 1-2 if you need more umph behind it, then by Arc 3/4 you should start to feel the build pick up.
@@Dooma thanks for above. There are 5 skills, but I still can't get the best rotation. For example, in arch 2 I got slaughtered by a Marauder Boss and that was the end of it. Also, the final boss of arch 2 was a complete loss as i could not even get close to killing it. Not sure what I'm doing wrong yet, but would really like to get better. Thanks.
Hey I was looking at this build and Going to try it out for archive and on your website I noticed you have five piece ice furnace some reinforced some divines but you have the belt reinforced and feet in divines wouldn't you want belt in divines and feet in reinforced since the feet get more armor than a belt and divines is the same on any piece? This would give you a little more resistance.
Hi Def! Great eye! That is a sliding scale that is going to be different for everyone. Race, armor quality, traits, buffs, class passives, etc. all come into play. The goal is to hit 33k with going over it as little as possible. There are many ways to chop it up depending on what you need with no "one right answer." For example. if you are over resist cap, you can dial back your resistances on your armor with a divine trait for more pen. Or remove a protective trait on the jewelry for more resources or infused traits. Or drop a buff like Minor Resolve. Etc. There are lots of little pieces that can all be fine tuned to whatever makes sense in the moment.
ran ur build with a friend pulled a easy 9,3,4 duo warden one bar build we ran into a marauder that one shotted me in beast form lol our entire guild runs this warden build now anything past arc 9,1,1 youre gunna want a tank. this build is easy to learn and when you get focus 1-4 it wipes archs in seconds.
@dooma I can’t stand the beetles from fissure. And want to play this build but replacing that skill which you said you are working on razor caltrops. Can I run this setup and just replace fissure to caltrops or do I also need to change out gear?
Hi Lee! You can, just be extra-aware of your stamina. You'll have to reposition caltrops quite a bit later on and it can get a little intense. Especially if you have things to interrupt constantly. If I remember right, on a few runs after I got a few penetration visions, I dropped breach altogether. So I think its possible to not worry about it at all once you have enough damage from focused efforts pumping out.
Haha I feel you there and you are very welcome. I don't mind the skill too much but I never liked the new mag beetles proc timers at all. It just feels way too long until the second proc haha.
Hey, thanks for your videos, there are very helpful 😊 I youst have a question: can you tell which vision's are the best for this build or give a list for the top 10 visions you can recomend for this build? Thanks in advance😊
Hi Geo! You are very welcome and thank you for watching! The main vision you are after is Focused Efforts. You always take that one when its available and get as many as you can. That is the main power behind the build regarding visions. From there picking up 1 scorching support and ferocious support is always wanted as well as all 3 of the sets to get the 2 attros and werewolf (especially the scorching set). I generally try to increase penetration when I can up to the cap, health increase when I can, and from there try to increase dot damage or heals. I hope this helps!
Hi Barry! This video is an older version of the build now. The written guide is most up to date. Right below the written guide is the newest video guide. I'll link it here for you as well (It's only 1 minute long, I tried something a little different with this one) th-cam.com/video/sF1v18w1ApA/w-d-xo.html&t
I don’t play anymore but I still scout the sauce Dooma gives out for free. You make the game accessible & as someone who gets too high to see straight, you make ESO fun.
Hi Oreo! Mainly because Gripping Shards require you to be up near melee range and then requires you to "dance" around melee range area but while still also kiting the mobs just out of their melee range to not take additional damage. Vs. Winter's Revenge, you can throw it out across the room and kite much safer. Its not an issue until around or after the Arc 6 area, then you really start to take a beating if you are just camping up in melee range with a set up like this. It's just safer. Later your health will be yo-yoing from full to 1hp and back constantly, you won't want to to take even 1 extra pixel of damage at that point haha. Great question, thank you!
Ice Furnace is amazing on a Magden for PvP. Its been a top tier set on them for some years now. Youd want to shake a few things up for PvP to have enough pressure to kill tanky players though. I have a 1 bar Ice Furnace pvp build on the website currently if you were interested in that: www.thegameroom.tv/warden-builds
Ok so used this build yesterday once in endless archive and it's extremely tanky. Damage output was ok getting better in later arcs. Whats the best visions to aim for mate? I do like the warden for EA and this build suits me great so cheers!
Hi Carlos! I am glad you like the build and thank you so much for the comment! It's way overkill for survivability in early Arcs for sure. You can drop vigor for a spammable like Crushing Shock and get in a flow of using that + heavy attacks for magicka. It will help get through the early arcs a little quicker. I usually just throw on C.Shock and it's enough to speed it up enough for me. 1 light weaved C.Shock will kill or almost kill most lesser enemies in 1 global in Arc 1. The main vision you should always go for is Focused Efforts. As many as you can get, every time. You also want the one that gives the bleed when you heavy attack and Scorching Support. From there its all the usual stuff that's strong for every build. You can mostly avoid anything stamina, direct damage, or physical/martial damage related.
Damn you made a elite build better very well done. Question, i dont have the time to do writs etc then get into arc 8, would your original build get to ARC 6? I did update the build, but it seems slower out of the gate and my lack of time.... With the original build i was on the last cycle 2nd wave boss come out and the ground fire ae goes off at the worst time, kill the 2 adds and the third wave comes with the boss and i knew it was time for a drink... Was in Arc 5... Ty again.. looking forward to your other builds.
Hi Bill! Thank you so much for the kind words! It's way overkill for survivability in early Arcs for sure. You can drop vigor for a spammable like Crushing Shock and get in a flow of using that + heavy attacks for magicka. It will help get through the early arcs a little quicker. I usually just throw on C.Shock and it's enough to speed it up enough for me. 1 light weaved C.Shock will kill or almost kill most lesser enemies in 1 global in Arc 1. Just do what you have to do to get through the early Arcs. Whatever makes it smoother for you. The build really picks up its strength after a few Arcs then by Arc 4 or so with a bit of good vision RNG, it really starts to take off. You got this and thank you for watching! 🙏
@@Dooma ty ty likewise ty for the is info. I need all the overkill I can get... I'm much older than most and I could never get weaving down, so for years tank life (taunt, turn, and survive hehe).. by the time I got weaving down lol the one bar craze came out, but I'm always summoned to tank (no complaints). With your builds you make EA very refreshing and simple, now I lack time lol don't grow up folks it interferes with gaming... Seriously EA for me seemed very intimidating at first, now it's fun . Ty ty. Now I need to find your sorc build lol ..
Thank you so much for the kind words Bill, I am glad the builds are helping you in that way. That is a large part of why I do what I do regarding 1 bar builds, as consistent as I do it. For those a bit older, inured, disabled, disfigured, or just want a simple modified way to play. I am a disabled vet myself and understand the impact of accommodation on our lives. Players responses like yourself has been a big motivator for me to continue it at the pace I have vs just putting out meta stuff for views. So thank you for that. As long as this modified builds keep providing value to players, I will keep doing it. I am working on the other classes now. DK is complete and I will start those guides tomorrow. People already "voted" for the Nightblade to be next so that will be immediately following the DK. Thank you again for watching and commenting, have a wonderful day! 🙏
Hi Tex! Any race can "work" just to different degrees. I just did a clear with a Khajiit on the Sorc to somewhere around mid Arc 7, so its definitely possible. Just make sure you try to hit resist cap for the higher arcs.
so i like both these builds the deadly version and this one but im wanting to make sure i can still do vet runs aswel without having to change over in-between, would you say this version or the deadly version is the better option for still doing dungeons
Hi Hamish! Do you mean solo'ing dungeons or as a DPS in groups? This build is specifically designed for upper arcs in the Archive. You are in mostly a tank set up designed around the Archive's mechanics with very little unmodified damage. You are depending on proper vision stacking to get the bulk of your damage for later Arcs, of which the build then picks up in that area and takes off. This would do very poorly as a dps build and is highly not advised because although you may not die, you will certainly be holding others back around you unless you heavily modified the build. There are much better builds to use for that content for damage that is also over the top for individual survivability as well. Even considering typical solo content such as vma and vvate, this would be significantly overkill in the defensive area, although you should be able to easily just walk right through both arenas without any issues other than low damage if you were already doing them in general. But altering them for more damage such as attribute points, cp, and food (at minimum) would be advised. Even if you wanted to solo very dungeons, I would still look to add more damage unless you were comfortable with a super slow and steady pace. The intent of the build is to take advantage of damage over time status effects using Ice Furnace to proc them, Serpent's Disdain to make them last indefinitely, and using the Archive's visions to juice this damage exponentially. The build just doesnt function the same outside of the Archive due to this design "needing" the Archives visions to make the damage truly relevant. I am not trying to discourage you from using the build, I just want there to be a clear expectation so you don't waste your time putting it together if this isnt what you are looking for. I hope this helps and thank you for watching!
@@Dooma thank you for a very detailed reply. I was asking because you stated in the deadly version that you put it through vet dungeons and through VVH i was asking as im building one of them as we speak but if it was too slow then i will build seperate for that as needed. And please dont feel that ure detailed reply would ever discourage me on your builds. I struggle with 2 bar builds simply because i always have and have never been able to change that other than a necro tank, and yours have in the past allowed me to do content that i simply have not been able to do in the past so thank you for that. And again thank you for the reply and i look forward to your future builds.
Thank you so much for the kind words and I am genuinely glad the builds have worked so well for you. In Hindsight I wish I explained that just a bit differently in the videos. I tried to focus primarily on the Archve aspect and explained the non-archive things a bit poorly by not including enough information. If you wanted to do dungeons, it can work, but I would shave off most of the defensive things and add back in damage. The thing to consider is, if you are changing attribute points, food, mundus, cp, a few skills, and potentially a gear set, it may be easier (and probably better for you) to just use a different build entirely. I think the biggest takeaway for you to consider what works for you and where is: Ice Furnace and Serpent's Disdain are both great pvp sets in the right context, however, they are both fairly poor pve sets in most all contexts, outside of the Archive.
@@Dooma your very welcome, and again thank you for the information. Its not a problem even though i have quite alot of time on ESO i struggle with builds so any information is good information, i did however wonder how long it took wlthin the dungeons so im glad i got that information before i got kicked out of one 🤣 il make sure to build differently for solo and group play.
You can start just like it is, although its way overkill for survivability in early Arcs. You can drop vigor for a spammable like Crushing Shock and get in a flow of using that + heavy attacks for magicka. It will help get through the early arcs a little quicker. Same for CP if you prefer. I usually just throw on C.Shock and it's enough to speed it up enough for me. 1 light weaved C.Shock will kill or almost kill most lesser enemies in 1 global in Arc 1. Great question!
Hi Mad! I just posted a full plan for the week and what to expect regarding the DK in Discord if you are interested. It's located in the "💎dooma-things" channel.
Hi Lifa! I ran it on every class to about Arc 6 or so. I am working now on getting it fine tuned for each class to reach higher. The DK version went live today which hit Arc 8: th-cam.com/video/YI_ESdyvyGc/w-d-xo.html
@@Dooma Thank you, for responding. I’m a long time warden user and this build helped me a lot to get through the archive. I hope you will come out with a great build for sorcs. I have a friend who is a long time sorc user!
Hi G! I think that is going to vary greatly from person to person. Health values ramp up big time in later arcs and a players individual ability to stack dots and kite well will really start to shine. I just checked a recent VOD and I hit Arc 7 in about 3.5 hours but that was with talking and breaks and what not during stream.
Heya Dyattz! I am running this build through on every class, including the Arcanist. I have a feeling the Arcanist is going to do super well with the set up as well just by the nature of the Arcanist's kit.
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Is this an updated version of the original?
I was just about to ask haha. Loving these by the way
I think the most fun part of Resolving Vigor in the archive is that it can be extended by the vision that extends heals over time! Throwing out an 8 second green vigor feels so strong
You both are hands down my favorite content creators. Bless y’all.
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Does it increase heal amount or spread across duration more? I mean 15 K over 8 sec vs 15 K over 5 sec
It heals more! Healing per second stays the same, healing per cast goes up@@dad_uchiha1707
Dude, your timing is crazy. My friend is getting back into ESO a bit and is leveling a warden. He'll love this.
Haha awesome! I hope he enjoys it, thank you very much for sharing it with him. 🙏
This build ist so cool, we nailed the Run to ARC 9 and only got killed from the Marauders in the latest arcs, super fun build great Work!
Awesome, I am glad it worked so well for you!
Put this together last night and got Inkslayer on first run! Great build that outright carries! This is the third build of yours I have used as inspiration and the results are always great! Thank you!
Hi Adam! Thats awesome! Thank you so much for coming back to let me know, it REALLY makes my day. GREAT WORK! I ran a newer set up on the Warden through and ended up mid Arc 9. I just posted that build screen shot in Discord (ESO STUFF> GENERAL CHAT) if you were interested in that as well.
Excellent. Release the hounds! My baby Warden is level 33...almost there. Can't wait to get in on this action. Thanks for your great content.
Awesome Aeron, almost there! I hope you enjoy it!
Excellent build. I can't wait to try this new version out! Thank you Dooma for the time you put into your builds!
You are very welcome Nana, I hope you enjoy it! 💙
Thanks Dooma. I´ve never thought that DOT build can be fun. But your enthusiasm conviced me to try your previous version of the warden and I am having a blast! Looking forward to try this new setup 🙂. Thank you for your hard work to put up all this great content.
You are very welcome Lukas and thank you so much for the comment! I hope you enjoy it!🙏
Created this build over the weekend and it's great. Slow but steady. With a partner it's perfect. I let them know how, "I'm not a tank but I'm tankish"
Haha there you go, thank you for sharing! I posted this in discord a bit ago that may help as well:
"For those using the new Warden build: Its way overkill defensively for the first few Arcs. A fairly large quality of life increase you can do in this area is to drop vigor and bring in Crushing Shock. I tested it out and 1 lightweaves C.Shock kills or almost kills most of the lesser adds in Arc 1 ish. So throw dots out, weave a bit of C.Shock around and kill things (even if you are unable to lightweave well, still just use the ability) and weave in intermittent heavy attacks to keep magicka up. Youll get through much faster than waiting on unmodified dots to chew through everything.
One of the biggest responses has been the lack of damage in early arcs. Thats just a byproduct of the design. The whole intent of the build is to grow in strength as you get deeper into the archive. Once you get to arc 3-4 area with a bit of vision rng you should start to get in stride and then shortly after that (or even in that area if you had good rng) the build really takes off.
Its a heavy armor wearing, 64 attribute points into health, Tank CP, health food using, Ice staff heavy attack 1 bar build using sets that don't add "real" damage on their own. The unmodified damage should be expected to be terrible. Just do what you have to do to get through Arc 1-2 if you need more umph behind it, then by Arc 3/4 you should start to feel the build pick up."
Great going Dooma! I am so excited to try this build. Thanks!!!
Thank you! and I hope you enjoy it! 🙏
Been using Serpents Disdain, Torgs Pact and PaleOrder on my Templar, super strong. Good video.
Thank you Elders and thanks for sharing your set up!
Believe it or not, one of the two sets I use on my fun Warden frost build is Ice furnace. And now I see the first video where someone actually utilizes it. This reason alone is enough for me to try it.
Haha that's great Daffy, I hope you enjoy it, and thank you very much for the comment! 🙏
Hi Dooma, the dps is less than the version running deadly. Why does survivability go up with Serpent denial? What is the trick with the gear setup that gets this to arc level 8?
Hey buddy all of that is explained in the video. I go over the gear set up piece by piece and explain how we increase our defensive strength. Regarding Serpent's Disdain, it increases our offensive output and extends out important dots that really start to come into play in later arcs when you are kiting around 20 mobs with over a million hp each while also carthweeling around Tho'at shards. The 5 set from it isnt intended to increase survivability.
Just got my warden to CP. It's a healer but I wanted to make a one bar loadout for EA. Can't wait to try this. I use your One bar Arcanist pvp build for Cyrodiil and it works great so I know your theory crafting is legit
Thank you so much for the kind words Brick and I hope you enjoy it!
same here haha, the PvP Arcanist is awesome, its my favorite PvP Char!
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If youre willing to lose the damage, the shielding glyph is awesome as well. Especially with a few stacks of augmented enchants. Made it to 8 1 2 with it.
Very nice!
What an awesome idea, I wanted to make an ice themed build for some time now. I can't wait to try it out:)
Thank you Bgwe and thank you for watching, I hope you enjoy it!
I've been wanting an ice themed build as well, though unfortunately I've been trying to make it a 1 bar sword & shield build...this helps in that direction, especially learning more about the ice furnace set. Thanks for the video!
@@briankingham175 You are very welcome and I hope you crush it with your build!
Defo gonna try this out! Thanks for the detailed guide💪🏻 for this build what verses and visions should you be aiming for? Keep up the good work mate❤️💪🏻
You are very welcome Michel and I hope you enjoy it! The main vision you should always go for is Focused Efforts. As many as you can get, every time. You also want the one that gives the bleed when you heavy attack and Scorching Support. From there its all the usual stuff that's strong for every build. You can mostly avoid anything stamina, direct damage, or physical/martial damage related.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the chilled proc a one time damage tick then applies chilled/brittle? Wouldn't you want it to proc repeatedly as much as possible instead of extending it's duration. With + 1500% status effect dmg, it hits for like 50k+ and you can potentially get it to proc several times per second as well as constantly burning with heartlands/charged with furnace.
I played around with a full tank warden with heartlands+frozen watcher with balance double ice staff and back bared weaken, front bar charged. Hold block (frozen watcher channels chill around you while blocking, procing chilled nearly every second on everything within 8 meters) and cast your two frost aoes and ele sus, 45k health and max res with pale order. It was very very easy up to arc 8 but I was only at attunement 2, with 3 it would be extremely strong. I had to leave my house so rip that run.
Extremely slow on the first couple arcs for sure, until I got attunement. You should try it out
Hi Rob! Early on in EA people figured out status effects were king. To this point Heartlands + Charged is very strong. A few videos went out around youtube and people on twitch streaming heartlands and everyone jumped on heartlands as the "must have set" for the Warden. People are forgetting chilled is 1 single damage source, out of many (Although very strong. This also has to do with deadly vs. heartland people were unsure about.). Yes heartlands can juice chilled to very high levels. However, with this type set up, we have taken burning and poisoned and made the whole package comparable. Once you get into very high Arcs, you will be doing MUCH more kiting and running around trying to live (Arc 7+ is a whole different world), which is when this type of set up REALLY shines (although it is quite strong in general damage wise after about Arc 3 or so), when you are running around bleeding out enemies with dots. Sometimes every single second is a circus act just to stay alive, for multiple minutes in a row. Youll be dropping winters revenge constantly like normal, but the effectiveness of its concentration takes a hit, and likewise a bit of your chilled effectiveness. If frost damage isnt rolling, chilled isnt procing. However, once burning and poisons get rolling on targets, they dont let up. 20 seconds a proc for burning vs 4, is an insane amount of lasting pressure you get to add that does the work for you without another button press required, especially if RNG was kind to you with decent Focus Supports stacks.
Yesterday I did an Arc 8-4 run with the DK version and showed how just applying juiced burning with Serpents is literally all you need to push high. I had 2 total damage sources on my bars from about Arc 6 to Arc 8-4. One of them entropy for heals, one of them burning embers to apply instant burning. Yes its the DK and not the Warden, but the implication is the same. Long lasting, very hard hitting status effects, can be equally as effective when used properly, on any class, vs just procing them a lot.
This is what I know. Heartlands versions are strong, but also so is this version. With heartlands I didnt make it out of arc 6/7 area. With multiple versions of Serpents, I consistently hit the Arc 8 area. So individual ability and play style will definitely have a factor on which version is better for which person. I suspect before Arc 6 area or so, it doesn't matter either way. This is just putting another option on the table for people to consider if it lines up with their needs/interest. Even though I personally did better with Serpents, I am not trying to posture it against Heartlands.
I appreciate the comment. I took a bit extra time to explain my thoughts on it thoroughly so I can also use this as a reference for others with similar thoughts as well. The heartlands comment/question is quite consistent. Thank you!
Been having awesome success with this build. Thanks very much for making it. Being rather new to this type of fighting, it seems to be taking a long time to kill things. What is your recommendation on skill rotation? thanks.
Hi Henri! Here is a response to this I put in Discord yesterday:
For those using the new Warden build: Its way overkill defensively for the first few Arcs. A fairly large quality of life increase you can do in this area is to drop vigor and bring in Crushing Shock. I tested it out and 1 lightweaves C.Shock kills or almost kills most of the lesser adds in Arc 1 ish. So throw dots out, weave a bit of C.Shock around and kill things (even if you are unable to lightweave well, still just use the ability) and weave in intermittent heavy attacks to keep magicka up. Youll get through much faster than waiting on unmodified dots to chew through everything.
One of the biggest responses has been the lack of damage in early arcs. Thats just a byproduct of the design. The whole intent of the build is to grow in strength as you get deeper into the archive. Once you get to arc 3-4 area with a bit of vision rng you should start to get in stride and then shortly after that (or even in that area if you had good rng) the build really takes off.
Its a heavy armor wearing, 64 attribute points into health, Tank CP, health food using, Ice staff heavy attack 1 bar build using sets that don't add "real" damage on their own. The unmodified damage should be expected to be terrible. Just do what you have to do to get through Arc 1-2 if you need more umph behind it, then by Arc 3/4 you should start to feel the build pick up.
@@Dooma thanks for above. There are 5 skills, but I still can't get the best rotation. For example, in arch 2 I got slaughtered by a Marauder Boss and that was the end of it. Also, the final boss of arch 2 was a complete loss as i could not even get close to killing it. Not sure what I'm doing wrong yet, but would really like to get better. Thanks.
thanks, I was top 5 DK this week because of your builds, also deadly is better cause the others don't increase with fates
Very nice work Cioby!
Hey I was looking at this build and Going to try it out for archive and on your website I noticed you have five piece ice furnace some reinforced some divines but you have the belt reinforced and feet in divines wouldn't you want belt in divines and feet in reinforced since the feet get more armor than a belt and divines is the same on any piece? This would give you a little more resistance.
Hi Def! Great eye! That is a sliding scale that is going to be different for everyone. Race, armor quality, traits, buffs, class passives, etc. all come into play. The goal is to hit 33k with going over it as little as possible. There are many ways to chop it up depending on what you need with no "one right answer." For example. if you are over resist cap, you can dial back your resistances on your armor with a divine trait for more pen. Or remove a protective trait on the jewelry for more resources or infused traits. Or drop a buff like Minor Resolve. Etc. There are lots of little pieces that can all be fine tuned to whatever makes sense in the moment.
Got to arc 731 then died to lag. Number 1 on leaderboard Xbox na thanks man awesome build as always
AWESOME work and thanks so much for coming back to let me know! 💪
ran ur build with a friend pulled a easy 9,3,4
duo warden one bar build we ran into a marauder that one shotted me in beast form lol
our entire guild runs this warden build now
anything past arc 9,1,1 youre gunna want a tank. this build is easy to learn and when you get focus 1-4 it wipes archs in seconds.
Hi Alex! Thank you so much for coming back and leaving a comment. Awesome work in the Archive! 💪
@@Dooma no problem i forgot to mention my duo partner ran this same build
Haha love it!
@dooma I can’t stand the beetles from fissure. And want to play this build but replacing that skill which you said you are working on razor caltrops. Can I run this setup and just replace fissure to caltrops or do I also need to change out gear?
Hi Lee! You can, just be extra-aware of your stamina. You'll have to reposition caltrops quite a bit later on and it can get a little intense. Especially if you have things to interrupt constantly. If I remember right, on a few runs after I got a few penetration visions, I dropped breach altogether. So I think its possible to not worry about it at all once you have enough damage from focused efforts pumping out.
@@Dooma thanks for some insight. I’m open to almost any replacement skill. Just not a fan of the beetles lol
Haha I feel you there and you are very welcome. I don't mind the skill too much but I never liked the new mag beetles proc timers at all. It just feels way too long until the second proc haha.
Hey, thanks for your videos, there are very helpful 😊
I youst have a question: can you tell which vision's are the best for this build or give a list for the top 10 visions you can recomend for this build? Thanks in advance😊
Hi Geo! You are very welcome and thank you for watching! The main vision you are after is Focused Efforts. You always take that one when its available and get as many as you can. That is the main power behind the build regarding visions. From there picking up 1 scorching support and ferocious support is always wanted as well as all 3 of the sets to get the 2 attros and werewolf (especially the scorching set). I generally try to increase penetration when I can up to the cap, health increase when I can, and from there try to increase dot damage or heals. I hope this helps!
@@Dooma thanks a lot 😊
You are very welcome!
Is the written guide the updated version now (Heartland ans Disdain)
Hi Barry! This video is an older version of the build now. The written guide is most up to date. Right below the written guide is the newest video guide. I'll link it here for you as well (It's only 1 minute long, I tried something a little different with this one) th-cam.com/video/sF1v18w1ApA/w-d-xo.html&t
I don’t play anymore but I still scout the sauce Dooma gives out for free. You make the game accessible & as someone who gets too high to see straight, you make ESO fun.
Haha thank you Dylan! 🙏
Love the thumbnail!
Thank you!
any reason you dont use the health morph if impaling shards since our health is higher then our spell damage?
Hi Oreo! Mainly because Gripping Shards require you to be up near melee range and then requires you to "dance" around melee range area but while still also kiting the mobs just out of their melee range to not take additional damage. Vs. Winter's Revenge, you can throw it out across the room and kite much safer. Its not an issue until around or after the Arc 6 area, then you really start to take a beating if you are just camping up in melee range with a set up like this. It's just safer. Later your health will be yo-yoing from full to 1hp and back constantly, you won't want to to take even 1 extra pixel of damage at that point haha. Great question, thank you!
I had a feeling that was the answer Ive almost completed the build to full gold. really love its tankyness wonder how it fairs in pvp@@Dooma
Ice Furnace is amazing on a Magden for PvP. Its been a top tier set on them for some years now. Youd want to shake a few things up for PvP to have enough pressure to kill tanky players though. I have a 1 bar Ice Furnace pvp build on the website currently if you were interested in that: www.thegameroom.tv/warden-builds
Ok so used this build yesterday once in endless archive and it's extremely tanky. Damage output was ok getting better in later arcs. Whats the best visions to aim for mate? I do like the warden for EA and this build suits me great so cheers!
Hi Carlos! I am glad you like the build and thank you so much for the comment! It's way overkill for survivability in early Arcs for sure. You can drop vigor for a spammable like Crushing Shock and get in a flow of using that + heavy attacks for magicka. It will help get through the early arcs a little quicker. I usually just throw on C.Shock and it's enough to speed it up enough for me. 1 light weaved C.Shock will kill or almost kill most lesser enemies in 1 global in Arc 1.
The main vision you should always go for is Focused Efforts. As many as you can get, every time. You also want the one that gives the bleed when you heavy attack and Scorching Support. From there its all the usual stuff that's strong for every build. You can mostly avoid anything stamina, direct damage, or physical/martial damage related.
Cheers mate. Arc 7 run with a mate yesterday was pretty smooth.
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@@carlosspicywiener9855 AWESOME!
Damn you made a elite build better very well done. Question, i dont have the time to do writs etc then get into arc 8, would your original build get to ARC 6? I did update the build, but it seems slower out of the gate and my lack of time.... With the original build i was on the last cycle 2nd wave boss come out and the ground fire ae goes off at the worst time, kill the 2 adds and the third wave comes with the boss and i knew it was time for a drink... Was in Arc 5... Ty again.. looking forward to your other builds.
Hi Bill! Thank you so much for the kind words! It's way overkill for survivability in early Arcs for sure. You can drop vigor for a spammable like Crushing Shock and get in a flow of using that + heavy attacks for magicka. It will help get through the early arcs a little quicker. I usually just throw on C.Shock and it's enough to speed it up enough for me. 1 light weaved C.Shock will kill or almost kill most lesser enemies in 1 global in Arc 1. Just do what you have to do to get through the early Arcs. Whatever makes it smoother for you. The build really picks up its strength after a few Arcs then by Arc 4 or so with a bit of good vision RNG, it really starts to take off. You got this and thank you for watching! 🙏
@@Dooma ty ty likewise ty for the is info. I need all the overkill I can get... I'm much older than most and I could never get weaving down, so for years tank life (taunt, turn, and survive hehe).. by the time I got weaving down lol the one bar craze came out, but I'm always summoned to tank (no complaints). With your builds you make EA very refreshing and simple, now I lack time lol don't grow up folks it interferes with gaming... Seriously EA for me seemed very intimidating at first, now it's fun . Ty ty. Now I need to find your sorc build lol ..
Thank you so much for the kind words Bill, I am glad the builds are helping you in that way. That is a large part of why I do what I do regarding 1 bar builds, as consistent as I do it. For those a bit older, inured, disabled, disfigured, or just want a simple modified way to play. I am a disabled vet myself and understand the impact of accommodation on our lives. Players responses like yourself has been a big motivator for me to continue it at the pace I have vs just putting out meta stuff for views. So thank you for that. As long as this modified builds keep providing value to players, I will keep doing it.
I am working on the other classes now. DK is complete and I will start those guides tomorrow. People already "voted" for the Nightblade to be next so that will be immediately following the DK. Thank you again for watching and commenting, have a wonderful day! 🙏
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I use a similar setup on my necro. Imma try swapping deadly for serpent. Still trying to reach resistance cap.
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I have a khajiit will it be good for this build will the champion points still be the same
Hi Tex! Any race can "work" just to different degrees. I just did a clear with a Khajiit on the Sorc to somewhere around mid Arc 7, so its definitely possible. Just make sure you try to hit resist cap for the higher arcs.
so i like both these builds the deadly version and this one but im wanting to make sure i can still do vet runs aswel without having to change over in-between, would you say this version or the deadly version is the better option for still doing dungeons
Hi Hamish! Do you mean solo'ing dungeons or as a DPS in groups? This build is specifically designed for upper arcs in the Archive. You are in mostly a tank set up designed around the Archive's mechanics with very little unmodified damage. You are depending on proper vision stacking to get the bulk of your damage for later Arcs, of which the build then picks up in that area and takes off. This would do very poorly as a dps build and is highly not advised because although you may not die, you will certainly be holding others back around you unless you heavily modified the build. There are much better builds to use for that content for damage that is also over the top for individual survivability as well.
Even considering typical solo content such as vma and vvate, this would be significantly overkill in the defensive area, although you should be able to easily just walk right through both arenas without any issues other than low damage if you were already doing them in general. But altering them for more damage such as attribute points, cp, and food (at minimum) would be advised. Even if you wanted to solo very dungeons, I would still look to add more damage unless you were comfortable with a super slow and steady pace.
The intent of the build is to take advantage of damage over time status effects using Ice Furnace to proc them, Serpent's Disdain to make them last indefinitely, and using the Archive's visions to juice this damage exponentially. The build just doesnt function the same outside of the Archive due to this design "needing" the Archives visions to make the damage truly relevant.
I am not trying to discourage you from using the build, I just want there to be a clear expectation so you don't waste your time putting it together if this isnt what you are looking for. I hope this helps and thank you for watching!
@@Dooma thank you for a very detailed reply. I was asking because you stated in the deadly version that you put it through vet dungeons and through VVH i was asking as im building one of them as we speak but if it was too slow then i will build seperate for that as needed. And please dont feel that ure detailed reply would ever discourage me on your builds. I struggle with 2 bar builds simply because i always have and have never been able to change that other than a necro tank, and yours have in the past allowed me to do content that i simply have not been able to do in the past so thank you for that. And again thank you for the reply and i look forward to your future builds.
Thank you so much for the kind words and I am genuinely glad the builds have worked so well for you. In Hindsight I wish I explained that just a bit differently in the videos. I tried to focus primarily on the Archve aspect and explained the non-archive things a bit poorly by not including enough information. If you wanted to do dungeons, it can work, but I would shave off most of the defensive things and add back in damage. The thing to consider is, if you are changing attribute points, food, mundus, cp, a few skills, and potentially a gear set, it may be easier (and probably better for you) to just use a different build entirely.
I think the biggest takeaway for you to consider what works for you and where is: Ice Furnace and Serpent's Disdain are both great pvp sets in the right context, however, they are both fairly poor pve sets in most all contexts, outside of the Archive.
@@Dooma your very welcome, and again thank you for the information. Its not a problem even though i have quite alot of time on ESO i struggle with builds so any information is good information, i did however wonder how long it took wlthin the dungeons so im glad i got that information before i got kicked out of one 🤣 il make sure to build differently for solo and group play.
I made this build.
I tried this build.
I like this build.
Haha awesome! 💪
Is this better than ur November build I was building on that so shud I switch to this one
Hi Sun! Check out the most recent version that was posted yesterday: th-cam.com/video/sF1v18w1ApA/w-d-xo.html
omg look Ma I'm in the CREDITS.
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I watched this while shitting and didn’t finish till the video was over
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Can i start with this build and cp from the begining or from later arcs?
You can start just like it is, although its way overkill for survivability in early Arcs. You can drop vigor for a spammable like Crushing Shock and get in a flow of using that + heavy attacks for magicka. It will help get through the early arcs a little quicker. Same for CP if you prefer. I usually just throw on C.Shock and it's enough to speed it up enough for me. 1 light weaved C.Shock will kill or almost kill most lesser enemies in 1 global in Arc 1. Great question!
when will the dk build be posted?
Hi Mad! I just posted a full plan for the week and what to expect regarding the DK in Discord if you are interested. It's located in the "💎dooma-things" channel.
Got to 8.1.1 with it yeay
Ayyyy that's what I am talking about right there. THANK you for letting me know! 💪
Ty u for the video 📹 op
You are very welcome and thank YOU for watching! 🙏
would razor caltrops be better than fissure??
Discussed in the video.
Hello Dooma, i like your build, i like it see to bHello Dooma, I like your construction, I would like to see the construction for templars
Thank you Nahuel! The Templar version is coming soon!
Where did my comment go that I left yesterday? 👀 Anyway came back to say this build helped me solo to get the Inkslayer title so thank you! ☺️
Haha, your other comment was on the DK video. All good though, no worries at all. And BIG CONGRATS on your title, AWESOME work! 💪
@@Dooma oh god you’re right haha I did well with the DK but warden is super OP!
Haha, I am really glad you are enjoying it and THANK you for coming back and leaving a comment to let me know! 🙏
Would this work for sorcs too? I’m curious.
Hi Lifa! I ran it on every class to about Arc 6 or so. I am working now on getting it fine tuned for each class to reach higher. The DK version went live today which hit Arc 8: th-cam.com/video/YI_ESdyvyGc/w-d-xo.html
@@Dooma Thank you, for responding. I’m a long time warden user and this build helped me a lot to get through the archive. I hope you will come out with a great build for sorcs. I have a friend who is a long time sorc user!
@@lifathedoveumbre Awesome and you are very welcome!
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Thank you Ambriel! 🙏
How long does it take to get to arc 8?
3 weeks !!
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Hi G! I think that is going to vary greatly from person to person. Health values ramp up big time in later arcs and a players individual ability to stack dots and kite well will really start to shine. I just checked a recent VOD and I hit Arc 7 in about 3.5 hours but that was with talking and breaks and what not during stream.
Can this work in pvp
Hi Rambom, check out #5 on our Build FAQ Page: www.thegameroom.tv/build-faq
Thank you for watching!
I wish the arcanist build was as sick as this 😢
Tempted to build it but let's see what else u cook up 🫠
Heya Dyattz! I am running this build through on every class, including the Arcanist. I have a feeling the Arcanist is going to do super well with the set up as well just by the nature of the Arcanist's kit.