Back when I was in the Navy, I learned that contrary to popular belief, icebergs, collisions and hurricanes were not the greatest hazard at sea. Fire is and has always been the great terror of sailors.
Doing my fire fighting training when I was in the reserves radically changed my understanding of what a fire in a ship looks and feels like. I'd always had this silly idea that you'd have a bit of grey smoke, and lots of flames. It never occurred to me that a cabin could be plunged into absolute darkness within seconds by pitch black smoke, and that you'd be unable to see your hand in front of your face, never mind the actual fire. I came very close to saying that I was too scared to carry on. Only the fact that I was more scared of the instructors than I was of the fire kept me going.
@@tomsdottirI wasn't a big fan of firefighter training in the Navy either. Some guys really got into it ...thank God ..lol . But it's something we all need to know
I appreciate that every video has a dedication to those lost in the disasters covered. I think it’s so important to remember these people were PEOPLE, with lives and loves and loved ones who could never forget them. Your videos always strike me as being so compassionate and respectful. Thank you for such great work! I have learned so much.
What strikes me most about this upload is the decade of fire with the 5 french ships burning. I mean, 5 ships of emmence size all burning and being lost, but in all 5 cases, the loss of lives were, realtively spoken, quite light. And that is somehow a testament to the advanced state of French ships at the time, even if some of them were in harbour at the time which by all means would make for greater chance of escape and survival even if chaotic. I used the word relative quite deliberately. Because despite the, thankfully, low number of lives lost in each case, the last few moments of those peoples lives have undoubtedly been extremely horrifying, and the impact on their relatives and loved ones quite severe for years to come. Because even if historians tend to look back at events, even just months later, and call it a case of only light casualties, the horrors experienced in the moments leading up to those persons death cannot be downplayed or disregarded though it is never mentioned. They died in the greatest horror and pain and despair once they realised that they would not live to tell the tale. And their relatives will always be haunted by the thought of those last minutes and not knowing if they suffered a lot or simply fell unconcious and suffocated or whatever else killed them, and having to live with the absence of these persons when they should have been around to take part in the good moments and celebrations until dying of old age. This is a fact that is most often treated with an untimely and disrespectful negligence. Because it doesn't matter if it is a single person or hundreds. The horror and pain and grief is just as bad for those affected. And as a sailor who has been involved in rescue/recovery of such victims of the cruel sea, I have seen relatives at the piers waiting with anxious and desperate hope, and seen them die inside and break into a thousand shattered pieces in their minds when they realize that their loved one is not coming home with them and never will. One second their eyes are full of hope and life. The next that light flicker and vanish and only a darkness remain in their eyes though they still breathe and move and cry or scream in despair. I realize that it is not a good way of describing it, but no explanation can truly relate the sorrow and feeling of futility that even rescuers get when we see that moment of dying inside. When you see them literally fall into a darkness that will consume them and keep them in grief for years, and there is nothing that anybody can do to make it lighter or shorter or less painful. These moments are the saddest and most painful ones I will ever have to face. For me at least. Even when I try to keep a professional distance and detachment to keep myself from being consumed by the emotional chaos of it all.
Agreed. Oceanliner Designs is tailored more toward the technical nuts and bolts reasons, with detailed diagrams, for maritime disasters. It's a good channel, but this guy has a much more engaging style of story telling. That IS after all, what we're all here for.
The passengers can confidently board the safest ship in the industry because: We have fireproof bulkheads and doors, but we built them into airgaps that act like chimneys so everything burns faster. We have the best fire sensors, but they aren't in public areas and basically have a silent alarm feature so no one can hear the warnings. We have over 40 fire hydrants, but only 6 of them can be used at the same time, and some doofus tripped over one and sued, so we covered a lot of them to make them unusable. Our ship's outer beauty is maintained by the most layers of the best rust covering flammable paint available. We have automatic fire doors but the crew disabled them and nobody knows how to manually close them. Our crew do the safety drills privately, so passengers don't to be bothered learning how to get off the ship safely, especially when our crew have learned how to quickly save themselves. There, fixed the Morrow Castle's safety sales pitch for them.
George Rogers, Chief Radio Operator on the Morro Castle was also the person who refused to send a distress call over the radio until the acting Captain ordered it. He did so only after the order was given and the radio room was on fire and operating on battery only. Yep arson. Ironically it was the one radio message that was sent that was the hero, saving those who eventually abandoned the ship and picked up by the responding vessels.
This is so amazing!! There's nothing more terrifying than being on a burning ship at sea and to have 7 in 0ne video is just making my whole day better ☺️
This video is so well researched! I also love the old film footage. For example the shot at 4:47, the girl from 1930 doesn't look at all like the typical footage from 100 years ago. The image is very clear with details, the playback speed is not off, the motion is smooth, she behaves naturally and doesn't pose for the camera etc. It looks like this could have been shot recently. It makes those people much more relatable, even though they lived a century ago.
I live in Michigan, so i really enjoy the video's you make about the great lake's. I would like to see a video on the Sultana, it's a story you don't hear much about, and many lives were lost due to the over crowding of this old steam ship. My great, great grandfather was released from a confederate concentration camp, and was seen boarding this steamer after his release at the end of the civil war. They over loaded several steam ship's trying to make as much profit as they could from union soldier's needing to make their way back north. Many soldier's were drowned in the Mississippi river due to the strong current, and more people died than on Titanic. There is also a good steam ship story of a southern.slave who knew the harbor well, and was allowed to steer the steamer before the civil war started, and he and a few other men, smuggled their families on board, and managed to take over the steamer when the Confederate owner's were gone at night, and they managed to navigate it past block aids, look outs, and mine's, and turned it over to the union soldier's with some expensive canons aboard. The man who led the escape joined the union army, and i believe had a job in politics later in life, and not many people know of him. I can't recall his name, or the steamer, but i thought it might be something you could look into. G-d bless.
The SS Paris burning and capsizing in full view of the Normandie in dry dock always seemed so ironic. To say nothing of the fact that the LIberte was reparations for the loss of the Normandie. Just an odd clusters or synchronicity.
I always find it interesting to see who just abandons the passenger's in these situations and those who do not love their life unto death, and stay and help people get to safety. I once did a job where i was running a cemetery with a horrible grave layout on steep hill's, which in the winter become pretty unsafe due to ice and snow. Trying to dig a grave sideways on a hill, with a backhoe that is pretty clapped out gets pretty dangerous. The ground is thawed, but the issue is getting the cement vault set with out flipping the backhoe. I had a guy once, who had worked 25 year's in Delaware NJ, and he came to help when i was gone, and had a burial in one of the two places you don't want to be digging. He said it was the scariest dig in his 30 plus year's in the business. I would always do the job of setting the vault in these situations, and often time's would point out to my help that they had kid's, while i did not. Before i was injured on the job, i was able to get it through corporates head that some burials would need to temporally be entombed until it was safe to dig and set the vault, which they finally agreed to. I worked for a corporation which owned 28 private cemeteries, and all but three were large enough to have a union, therefore better equipment, more worker's, better pay, and safer working conditions. Calling osha never made any difference, which was how i ended getting injured on a junk piece of equipment donated from one of the union cemeteries. I did end up suing the place, because of complications from comp not taking xrays, which led me to work for nine month's with a broken leg that healed in a cross pattern and was damaging nerves and muscle, my ACL was ripped off the bone, and my ankle ligaments were torn and stretched. I had several surgeries, and more damage done because i walked around that way for so long. I sued when they didn't want to lay for the last surgery. Never accept working in situations that are dangerous, where employer's only care about profit, and not safety. The Moro Castle is one of those situatuions where people knew thing's were bad, but stayed because they thought they had no choice or voice. G-d bless, you always make great content, so thank you for your time.
It seems a bit obtuse for ship builders and regulatory agencies to go so many decades using the same flammable interior decor materials, and for officers/crew to ignore safety protocols in several cases. Maybe it's a misperception of being safe on a ship just because they were more familiar, whereas aircraft were a new innovation people didn't trust, so airlines had to work harder to prove falling from the sky wasn't so likely 🧐🤔🤷🏼♂️ That footage of the Ile de France passing between buildings is greatly impressive! Thank you!
It's one of those frustrating cases where the circumstantial evidence is damning and it's nearly impossible to deny this ... but at the same time, it's not courtroom knowing.
Your work is why you’re in my top 3 channels on here! Your research and production values in your videos are extremely impressive! And those top 3 are never in any particular order 😉
Very well-done video!! The stories & illustrations are great. It's often difficult to get images & photographs of older ships. Some of substituted images of vessels, used in the video, have their own interesting tales. For example: @ 28:46 - photograph of the main saloon of the Str. COMMONWEALTH [1855 - 1865]; she was a total loss burning at her Groton, Connecticut dock stuck in the mud. @ 32:22 - drawing of Str. NORTH RIVER STEAMBOAT by Samuel Ward Stanton, from his 1895 book entitled "American Steam Vessels." S. W. Stanton was America's foremost steamship illustrator, dying on the TITANIC. @ 34:00 - illustration from "Scientific American" of the 1889 Fall River Line Str. PURITAN's two-cylinders [high & low pressure] walking beam engine; largest such engine ever built; also illustrating her feathering paddlewheels. @ 43:37 & 45:53 - photograph of Hudson River People's Line Str. DEAN RICHMOND [1865 - 1909] from gallery deck; the light fixtures are for coal gas. Also, a vessel or two may be on the Murray River, Australia. Again, video well done!! 🚢🚢🚢
Fire ... terrifying because it can build out of control *SO* fast. Well, that's one thing on land, where you get out of the building and to a safe distance on your feet. On a ship that isn't docked -- and in some cases even one that is (remember the *Noronic* ...) -- there's no simple getting out and running to a safe distance.
In the Navy they always had fire drills and they would say fire in the paint locker!!! The paint locker was a mess and if a fire ever started there I can imagine it would be almost impossible to put out!!!
Really?? At a time when just months ago, parents of schoolchildren speaking out at school board meetings were deemed "domestic terror groups" on a "watch list" ??? Disingenuous hyperbole is all the rage, yesteryear right through today.
Still are if you look at it. Certainly in my career as a clinician. Not to mention on the US political stage, and that’s all I’ll say there. Though, history has never been changed by those who sat quietly. As you look back on history, it’s fairly heartbreaking what rights were considered radical, nonsensical. Progress we shall!🥹❤️🩹
I actually was in Long Beach today and saw the Queen Mary! I’m glad the city saved that beautiful piece of British History from destruction (scrapping and then later the company that started to let her go into disrepair)
I grew up in HB and always visiting the Queen Mary and Spruce Goose a few times a months my entire childhood: zero interest in the “dumb carousel!” Forever the nerd, of course I’d have science degrees and a proper nerdy, but admittedly human focused career! Oddly, the Spruce Goose and I have both ended up here in the PNW! I’ll die near my friend the Spruce Goose on end of life care, and soon be returned to the sea offshore of HB, close to my other friend the Queen Mary! They both allowed me to have a small piece of child like wonder in my truly horrific world. I am so very thankful both were saved, restored, cared for, and have been much loved! I’m only 46 and there were many before me, many after, and it’s wonderful knowing many more will come after me to appreciate these amazing looks into our past: the science, the art, the tragedy, the soul of the ship and the plane, and the very people with their very own, unique histories! ♥️ So much love .
I’m still so shocked you don’t have millions of subscribers! The editing, story telling, archival footage.. the entire package of this channel is *chefs kiss*.
3:45 some of the original products of IBM plant number 1 in Endicott, NY. You can find versions of the same systems on most WWI and WWII US-built ships also.
In Scandinavia we had scandinavian star & that fire was not so mysterious yet never fully investigated as it should. When I look at the morro castle or yarmouth castle & how the fires spread. wood & melamine resin burns like crazy...
13:42 Waters 'beating' the people trying not to drown is said very off-handed here and never again commented on. At that, what a complete POS this guy was.
If the ship had been turned broadside to the wind, such that the fire was fanned away from the centre of the ship, it could have made a huge difference instead of allowing the fire to burn the whole length of the ship. When I think of fires on ships I always think of Morro Castle and Sultana, which was even more horrendous if that's possible.
I hate to say this but these stories would make good movies. It would also make individuals aware of those who died and survived. And make safety issues for everyone and everything aware of problems with sailing.
The Navy trained us big time to fight fires on ship and we had to fight actually fires that were unbelievable!!! I had black crap coming out of my nose for days after that! They should make every crew on cruise liners go through the Navy's firefighting school!!!
After the success of the movie Titanic, I totally expected the story of the Morro Castle to become a movie. It seems it could have been a great movie...warm tropic nights and romance, crew unrest, potential arson, and perhaps murder, incompetence of the crew, etc, etc. capped by the horror of a fire at sea. I remember my mother telling me she had seen the ship off the beach at Asbury Park, N when she was a child, so I was always aware of the story.
33:53 this is either an error, or I'm not understanding exactly what you're trying to say by 52' cylinder. Do you mean the overall dimensions of the engine, from the top of the beam to the bottom of the crank?
@smithjones1906, think the Str. ERIE had 52-inch diameter cylinder with a 10-foot stroke; the illustration following @ 34:00 is of the 1889 Fall River Line Str. PURITAN. The PURITAN had a compound beam engine with a 110-pound high-pressure cylinder & a 50-pound low-pressure cylinder, with indicated horsepower of 7,500. In the illustration, the high-pressure cylinder is within the "A-Fram" [75-inch diameter with 9-foot stroke] & the large low-pressure cylinder is to the left of the "A-Fram" [110-inch diameter with a 14-foot stroke]. The PURITAN at 24 RPM could hit & maintain speeds of 20 MPH. The PURITAN's gross tonnage was 4,593 [The 1837 Str. ERIE was either 496 or 497 tons]. If you look closely at my "icon," you can see the Str. PURITAN in the East River!! Hope this is helpful.
Think the Str. ERIE had 52-inch diameter cylinder with a 10-foot stroke; the illustration following @ 34:00 is of the 1889 Fall River Line Str. PURITAN. The PURITAN had a compound beam engine with a 110-pound high-pressure cylinder & a 50-pound low-pressure cylinder, with indicated horsepower of 7,500. In the illustration, the high-pressure cylinder is within the "A-Fram" [75-inch diameter with 9-foot stroke] & the large low-pressure cylinder is to the left of the "A-Fram" [110-inch diameter with a 14-foot stroke]. The PURITAN at 24 RPM could hit & maintain speeds of 20 MPH. The PURITAN's gross tonnage was 4,593 [The 1837 Str. ERIE was either 496 or 497 tons]. If you look closely at my "icon," you can see the Str. PURITAN in the East River!! Hope this is helpful.
What is sad are the amount of people who go on ships, boats and other water vehicles and then get stuck in a situation where they're forced to be in the water.
I still think george rogers started the fire on the moro castle. I don’t think he fully intended it to get so out of hand, but there is a decent chance he started it.
Let me present to you one that gave me nightmares as a kid, especially since we travelled with the ship just two days before this happened... I was terrified of being onboard a boat for years after that, even if we weren't onboard that night. I still think of it when boarding ships to this day... th-cam.com/video/1y_eHixR-sQ/w-d-xo.html
Back when I was in the Navy, I learned that contrary to popular belief, icebergs, collisions and hurricanes were not the greatest hazard at sea. Fire is and has always been the great terror of sailors.
Doing my fire fighting training when I was in the reserves radically changed my understanding of what a fire in a ship looks and feels like. I'd always had this silly idea that you'd have a bit of grey smoke, and lots of flames. It never occurred to me that a cabin could be plunged into absolute darkness within seconds by pitch black smoke, and that you'd be unable to see your hand in front of your face, never mind the actual fire. I came very close to saying that I was too scared to carry on. Only the fact that I was more scared of the instructors than I was of the fire kept me going.
Ex Navy here and I was just thinking the same thing.
@@tomsdottirI wasn't a big fan of firefighter training in the Navy either. Some guys really got into it ...thank God ..lol . But it's something we all need to know
Bering Sea Commercial Fisherman Here, I second this opinion
Rarely are such terrifying tales narrated in such a calm manner, allowing the story itself to convey the drama. I love your work.
It's how all dramatic stories should be told. 👌
His voice is wonderful.
Brilliant
Isn't that the truth? His voice is so soothing that it just allows me to close my eyes and just get into the story!
I appreciate that every video has a dedication to those lost in the disasters covered. I think it’s so important to remember these people were PEOPLE, with lives and loves and loved ones who could never forget them.
Your videos always strike me as being so compassionate and respectful.
Thank you for such great work! I have learned so much.
What strikes me most about this upload is the decade of fire with the 5 french ships burning. I mean, 5 ships of emmence size all burning and being lost, but in all 5 cases, the loss of lives were, realtively spoken, quite light. And that is somehow a testament to the advanced state of French ships at the time, even if some of them were in harbour at the time which by all means would make for greater chance of escape and survival even if chaotic.
I used the word relative quite deliberately. Because despite the, thankfully, low number of lives lost in each case, the last few moments of those peoples lives have undoubtedly been extremely horrifying, and the impact on their relatives and loved ones quite severe for years to come. Because even if historians tend to look back at events, even just months later, and call it a case of only light casualties, the horrors experienced in the moments leading up to those persons death cannot be downplayed or disregarded though it is never mentioned. They died in the greatest horror and pain and despair once they realised that they would not live to tell the tale.
And their relatives will always be haunted by the thought of those last minutes and not knowing if they suffered a lot or simply fell unconcious and suffocated or whatever else killed them, and having to live with the absence of these persons when they should have been around to take part in the good moments and celebrations until dying of old age. This is a fact that is most often treated with an untimely and disrespectful negligence. Because it doesn't matter if it is a single person or hundreds. The horror and pain and grief is just as bad for those affected.
And as a sailor who has been involved in rescue/recovery of such victims of the cruel sea, I have seen relatives at the piers waiting with anxious and desperate hope, and seen them die inside and break into a thousand shattered pieces in their minds when they realize that their loved one is not coming home with them and never will. One second their eyes are full of hope and life. The next that light flicker and vanish and only a darkness remain in their eyes though they still breathe and move and cry or scream in despair. I realize that it is not a good way of describing it, but no explanation can truly relate the sorrow and feeling of futility that even rescuers get when we see that moment of dying inside. When you see them literally fall into a darkness that will consume them and keep them in grief for years, and there is nothing that anybody can do to make it lighter or shorter or less painful. These moments are the saddest and most painful ones I will ever have to face. For me at least. Even when I try to keep a professional distance and detachment to keep myself from being consumed by the emotional chaos of it all.
Oceanliner Designs may have cooler graphics and sleek animations, but Big Old Boats always has the goods.
Agreed. Oceanliner Designs is tailored more toward the technical nuts and bolts reasons, with detailed diagrams, for maritime disasters. It's a good channel, but this guy has a much more engaging style of story telling. That IS after all, what we're all here for.
@stargazer5784 I find Oceanliner Designs sometimes adds a bit more subjective drama to the descriptions.
Just remember, though...he's your friend Mike Brady.
@@pedromanuellopez142really? I don’t see it but he’s good for sure imo
Another great video. Thanks so much for NOT having digital/computer narration.
Moral of this video: Don't sail on a ship that advertises lavish varnished wood paneling.
Definately
Yessir!!!@@roselightinstorms727
i think the term "heavily varnished wood panelling" is going to give me nightmares
The passengers can confidently board the safest ship in the industry because:
We have fireproof bulkheads and doors, but we built them into airgaps that act like chimneys so everything burns faster.
We have the best fire sensors, but they aren't in public areas and basically have a silent alarm feature so no one can hear the warnings.
We have over 40 fire hydrants, but only 6 of them can be used at the same time, and some doofus tripped over one and sued, so we covered a lot of them to make them unusable.
Our ship's outer beauty is maintained by the most layers of the best rust covering flammable paint available.
We have automatic fire doors but the crew disabled them and nobody knows how to manually close them.
Our crew do the safety drills privately, so passengers don't to be bothered learning how to get off the ship safely, especially when our crew have learned how to quickly save themselves.
There, fixed the Morrow Castle's safety sales pitch for them.
George Rogers, Chief Radio Operator on the Morro Castle was also the person who refused to send a distress call over the radio until the acting Captain ordered it. He did so only after the order was given and the radio room was on fire and operating on battery only. Yep arson. Ironically it was the one radio message that was sent that was the hero, saving those who eventually abandoned the ship and picked up by the responding vessels.
This is so amazing!! There's nothing more terrifying than being on a burning ship at sea and to have 7 in 0ne video is just making my whole day better ☺️
I'd rather be on a burning ship at sea,
than a burning aieplane in the air 😅
" - but it stopped, short, never to go again when the old man died." RIP Cpt Wilmont. I just wish the crew had been better treated.
When you cheers remember the engineer's.
Thanks again, BoB. Have a great week. Take care and Fair winds to ya.
This video is so well researched!
I also love the old film footage.
For example the shot at 4:47, the girl from 1930 doesn't look at all like the typical footage from 100 years ago. The image is very clear with details, the playback speed is not off, the motion is smooth, she behaves naturally and doesn't pose for the camera etc. It looks like this could have been shot recently. It makes those people much more relatable, even though they lived a century ago.
Land, sea or air, the danger of fire should not be taken for granted.
No damn way I’m here within a minute. Yes BOB! Love you bestie!!! 😊
The most philosophical insight that I can muster is this: fire and water are not supposed to mix, and when they do …… it’s BAD.
☄️Bro,YOU are on fire dropping these vids so often!😅 Thanks because I love everything about your channel.❤ Keep the vids coming please!
I'm here for the stories.... and your voice.. it relaxes me. Oh and your archival footage is extraordinary ✅
I live in Michigan, so i really enjoy the video's you make about the great lake's. I would like to see a video on the Sultana, it's a story you don't hear much about, and many lives were lost due to the over crowding of this old steam ship. My great, great grandfather was released from a confederate concentration camp, and was seen boarding this steamer after his release at the end of the civil war. They over loaded several steam ship's trying to make as much profit as they could from union soldier's needing to make their way back north. Many soldier's were drowned in the Mississippi river due to the strong current, and more people died than on Titanic. There is also a good steam ship story of a southern.slave who knew the harbor well, and was allowed to steer the steamer before the civil war started, and he and a few other men, smuggled their families on board, and managed to take over the steamer when the Confederate owner's were gone at night, and they managed to navigate it past block aids, look outs, and mine's, and turned it over to the union soldier's with some expensive canons aboard. The man who led the escape joined the union army, and i believe had a job in politics later in life, and not many people know of him. I can't recall his name, or the steamer, but i thought it might be something you could look into.
G-d bless.
The SS Paris burning and capsizing in full view of the Normandie in dry dock always seemed so ironic. To say nothing of the fact that the LIberte was reparations for the loss of the Normandie. Just an odd clusters or synchronicity.
I always find it interesting to see who just abandons the passenger's in these situations and those who do not love their life unto death, and stay and help people get to safety. I once did a job where i was running a cemetery with a horrible grave layout on steep hill's, which in the winter become pretty unsafe due to ice and snow. Trying to dig a grave sideways on a hill, with a backhoe that is pretty clapped out gets pretty dangerous. The ground is thawed, but the issue is getting the cement vault set with out flipping the backhoe. I had a guy once, who had worked 25 year's in Delaware NJ, and he came to help when i was gone, and had a burial in one of the two places you don't want to be digging. He said it was the scariest dig in his 30 plus year's in the business. I would always do the job of setting the vault in these situations, and often time's would point out to my help that they had kid's, while i did not. Before i was injured on the job, i was able to get it through corporates head that some burials would need to temporally be entombed until it was safe to dig and set the vault, which they finally agreed to. I worked for a corporation which owned 28 private cemeteries, and all but three were large enough to have a union, therefore better equipment, more worker's, better pay, and safer working conditions. Calling osha never made any difference, which was how i ended getting injured on a junk piece of equipment donated from one of the union cemeteries. I did end up suing the place, because of complications from comp not taking xrays, which led me to work for nine month's with a broken leg that healed in a cross pattern and was damaging nerves and muscle, my ACL was ripped off the bone, and my ankle ligaments were torn and stretched. I had several surgeries, and more damage done because i walked around that way for so long. I sued when they didn't want to lay for the last surgery.
Never accept working in situations that are dangerous, where employer's only care about profit, and not safety. The Moro Castle is one of those situatuions where people knew thing's were bad, but stayed because they thought they had no choice or voice.
G-d bless, you always make great content, so thank you for your time.
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Another excellent presentation!RIP to all who perished!😢
It seems a bit obtuse for ship builders and regulatory agencies to go so many decades using the same flammable interior decor materials, and for officers/crew to ignore safety protocols in several cases.
Maybe it's a misperception of being safe on a ship just because they were more familiar, whereas aircraft were a new innovation people didn't trust, so airlines had to work harder to prove falling from the sky wasn't so likely 🧐🤔🤷🏼♂️
That footage of the Ile de France passing between buildings is greatly impressive! Thank you!
George W Rogers burned the Morro Castle
never forget that
It's one of those frustrating cases where the circumstantial evidence is damning and it's nearly impossible to deny this ... but at the same time, it's not courtroom knowing.
Your work is why you’re in my top 3 channels on here! Your research and production values in your videos are extremely impressive! And those top 3 are never in any particular order 😉
Very well-done video!!
The stories & illustrations are great. It's often difficult to get images & photographs of older ships. Some of substituted images of vessels, used in the video, have their own interesting tales. For example:
@ 28:46 - photograph of the main saloon of the Str. COMMONWEALTH [1855 - 1865]; she was a total loss burning at her Groton, Connecticut dock stuck in the mud.
@ 32:22 - drawing of Str. NORTH RIVER STEAMBOAT by Samuel Ward Stanton, from his 1895 book entitled "American Steam Vessels." S. W. Stanton was America's foremost steamship illustrator, dying on the TITANIC.
@ 34:00 - illustration from "Scientific American" of the 1889 Fall River Line Str. PURITAN's two-cylinders [high & low pressure] walking beam engine; largest such engine ever built; also illustrating her feathering paddlewheels.
@ 43:37 & 45:53 - photograph of Hudson River People's Line Str. DEAN RICHMOND [1865 - 1909] from gallery deck; the light fixtures are for coal gas.
Also, a vessel or two may be on the Murray River, Australia.
Again, video well done!! 🚢🚢🚢
Fire ... terrifying because it can build out of control *SO* fast. Well, that's one thing on land, where you get out of the building and to a safe distance on your feet.
On a ship that isn't docked -- and in some cases even one that is (remember the *Noronic* ...) -- there's no simple getting out and running to a safe distance.
In the Navy they always had fire drills and they would say fire in the paint locker!!!
The paint locker was a mess and if a fire ever started there I can imagine it would be almost impossible to put out!!!
Imagine being considered a radical for wanting better labor conditions.
Really?? At a time when just months ago, parents of schoolchildren speaking out at school board meetings were deemed "domestic terror groups" on a "watch list" ???
Disingenuous hyperbole is all the rage, yesteryear right through today.
Still are if you look at it. Certainly in my career as a clinician. Not to mention on the US political stage, and that’s all I’ll say there. Though, history has never been changed by those who sat quietly. As you look back on history, it’s fairly heartbreaking what rights were considered radical, nonsensical. Progress we shall!🥹❤️🩹
@@maximumeffort78 110% brother. You can look back at the "fight for 6" That's right, the fight for the SIX day work week.
Looking forward to a video or videos about the interiors of these ships. They were amazing.
I actually was in Long Beach today and saw the Queen Mary!
I’m glad the city saved that beautiful piece of British History from destruction (scrapping and then later the company that started to let her go into disrepair)
I grew up in HB and always visiting the Queen Mary and Spruce Goose a few times a months my entire childhood: zero interest in the “dumb carousel!” Forever the nerd, of course I’d have science degrees and a proper nerdy, but admittedly human focused career! Oddly, the Spruce Goose and I have both ended up here in the PNW! I’ll die near my friend the Spruce Goose on end of life care, and soon be returned to the sea offshore of HB, close to my other friend the Queen Mary! They both allowed me to have a small piece of child like wonder in my truly horrific world. I am so very thankful both were saved, restored, cared for, and have been much loved! I’m only 46 and there were many before me, many after, and it’s wonderful knowing many more will come after me to appreciate these amazing looks into our past: the science, the art, the tragedy, the soul of the ship and the plane, and the very people with their very own, unique histories! ♥️ So much love .
I’m still so shocked you don’t have millions of subscribers! The editing, story telling, archival footage.. the entire package of this channel is *chefs kiss*.
Your documentaries are just the best! So well done. Thank you for all the hard work and sharing with us.
Been itching for a new upload to fall asleep to.. tonight has prevailed!! ❤
Love the addition to the usual farewell. ❤
Yes, no Nazis, please. lol
SS L'Atlantique was a beautiful ship with sublime interiors. She had a brief but glittering career. What might have been.
3:45 some of the original products of IBM plant number 1 in Endicott, NY. You can find versions of the same systems on most WWI and WWII US-built ships also.
In Scandinavia we had scandinavian star & that fire was not so mysterious yet never fully investigated as it should.
When I look at the morro castle or yarmouth castle & how the fires spread.
wood & melamine resin burns like crazy...
Having had the "privilege" of fighting an at-sea fire aboard the USS Constellation (CV-64) below decks, let me say that it is TERRIFYING!
This was a really fantastic video! Thanks!
My gf lives in Asbury Park. The Morro Castle is still a huge part of the lore there.
What horrendous events. Do you think the captain of the Castle Morro was poisoned and the fire arson?
Thats a truly terrifying situation to end up in.
Great presentation as always! Thank you for your work.
13:42 Waters 'beating' the people trying not to drown is said very off-handed here and never again commented on. At that, what a complete POS this guy was.
If the ship had been turned broadside to the wind, such that the fire was fanned away from the centre of the ship, it could have made a huge difference instead of allowing the fire to burn the whole length of the ship. When I think of fires on ships I always think of Morro Castle and Sultana, which was even more horrendous if that's possible.
Really really enjoyed watching that, very informative and educational thank you.
I hate to say this but these stories would make good movies. It would also make individuals aware of those who died and survived. And make safety issues for everyone and everything aware of problems with sailing.
I love your videos. Educational as well. Keep up the great work 😊
Love your content please never stop ❤❤❤
The Navy trained us big time to fight fires on ship and we had to fight actually fires that were unbelievable!!!
I had black crap coming out of my nose for days after that!
They should make every crew on cruise liners go through the Navy's firefighting school!!!
Amazing stories....THANK YOU !!!
After the success of the movie Titanic, I totally expected the story of the Morro Castle to become a movie. It seems it could have been a great movie...warm tropic nights and romance, crew unrest, potential arson, and perhaps murder, incompetence of the crew, etc, etc. capped by the horror of a fire at sea. I remember my mother telling me she had seen the ship off the beach at Asbury Park, N when she was a child, so I was always aware of the story.
Food for the algorithm
Happy New Year🎉
Great ending
That shaft speed of 14,000 R.P.M. for tbe Morro Castle, might need checking!
Lesson of the day: don't travel on a French liner.
Thank you for the stories of the other French vessels. Have you ever done a video on the Noronic, which burned in Toronto Harbour?
That would haunt the heck out of me. Jumping on Rogers.
Because everything was destoyed😢
Awesome music!
Magnificent
Well done... this Is a LONG one...;-)
Rest in peace
Why is nobody talking about the DOÑA PAZ?
Did you ever do a video on the Noronic? I think they suffered a fire as well and I’d like to learn more about her!
I can't imagine just how trifling being on a ship when it catches fire.
What song is playing at the beginning of the "deadly facades" chapter for the Morrow Castle story? Absolutely love your story telling, by the way
33:53 this is either an error, or I'm not understanding exactly what you're trying to say by 52' cylinder. Do you mean the overall dimensions of the engine, from the top of the beam to the bottom of the crank?
@smithjones1906, think the Str. ERIE had 52-inch diameter cylinder with a 10-foot stroke; the illustration following @ 34:00 is of the 1889 Fall River Line Str. PURITAN.
The PURITAN had a compound beam engine with a 110-pound high-pressure cylinder & a 50-pound low-pressure cylinder, with indicated horsepower of 7,500. In the illustration, the high-pressure cylinder is within the "A-Fram" [75-inch diameter with 9-foot stroke] & the large low-pressure cylinder is to the left of the "A-Fram" [110-inch diameter with a 14-foot stroke]. The PURITAN at 24 RPM could hit & maintain speeds of 20 MPH. The PURITAN's gross tonnage was 4,593 [The 1837 Str. ERIE was either 496 or 497 tons]. If you look closely at my "icon," you can see the Str. PURITAN in the East River!! Hope this is helpful.
Think the Str. ERIE had 52-inch diameter cylinder with a 10-foot stroke; the illustration following @ 34:00 is of the 1889 Fall River Line Str. PURITAN.
The PURITAN had a compound beam engine with a 110-pound high-pressure cylinder & a 50-pound low-pressure cylinder, with indicated horsepower of 7,500. In the illustration, the high-pressure cylinder is within the "A-Fram" [75-inch diameter with 9-foot stroke] & the large low-pressure cylinder is to the left of the "A-Fram" [110-inch diameter with a 14-foot stroke]. The PURITAN at 24 RPM could hit & maintain speeds of 20 MPH. The PURITAN's gross tonnage was 4,593 [The 1837 Str. ERIE was either 496 or 497 tons]. If you look closely at my "icon," you can see the Str. PURITAN in the East River!! Hope this is helpful.
What is sad are the amount of people who go on ships, boats and other water vehicles and then get stuck in a situation where they're forced to be in the water.
What a funny comment
26:09 you have to say allegedly 😊unless convicted in a court of law then you can say guilty 😊
Hour and a half video, 2025 is shaping up nicely so far
4th Happy New Year!!!🎉🎉🎉
My Grandmother was there one of the time it froze over.
These stories are a national treasure.
Third, happy new year! BoB
The Only Two places things get Hot on a Ship is The Engine Room and the Galley!!
I still think george rogers started the fire on the moro castle.
I don’t think he fully intended it to get so out of hand, but there is a decent chance he started it.
R.I.P Arizona 😢
Happy New Year, Bradley!
R.I.P Empress of ireland & titanic 😔😫
Wow, it seesms as though fire was mostly attracted to French ocean liners.
Yeah, beautiful woodwork is actually a bad idea for ocean going vessels. Plastic sucks too.
Europa collided with burned wreck of paris in december 1946 and sank but salvaged and put in service as the libertè
GO NAVY
Philadelphia USA 🇺🇸
8:40- oh he did that shit
do you think normandie would be with us today if the fire didnt happen? i assume the US would agve given it back to france if it survived rhe war
whos here after mikes 3 part epic on the morro castle
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im loaded on content today, i guess 2025 is already going swell
Let me present to you one that gave me nightmares as a kid, especially since we travelled with the ship just two days before this happened... I was terrified of being onboard a boat for years after that, even if we weren't onboard that night. I still think of it when boarding ships to this day...
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Perhaps Captain was poisoned
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2nd!!
why are the life preservers in people's cabins 😅
French floating art gallery = floating tinder box.
Looks like a pretty jewish operation to me.
America 1st .... maga baby maga 👍
You should do a video on the paddle steamer Arabia.
I work at sea.
#2 fear is fire onboard.
#1 jumping overboard to escape it.
I’d rather run naked around lions than swim in the ocean.
AMERICAN GREED