I am an alumnus of the US Naval Academy, and I have been watching this channel for some time (it's fantastic, keep up the great work). I While I was at USNA 30+ years ago, I had the privilege of meeting submariners from this era, and they were impressive individuals with many harrowing stories. I'm glad that you picked one of them to tell, and I am eager to hear more.
Respect, Sir. I'm just a second gen Jarhead, but that was a tough school, was it not? I got to walk through the U 505 as a child. They may have been our enemy, but submariners are all a brave lot
My father was an Annapolis graduate (class of 40). An underclassman and friend of his, Capt. Earl Barret (41, I believe) married my mother's cousin. After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Dad went on to fly with the Lexington's airgroup, while Earl went on to submarines. After the war, both were based out of San Diego: Dad over at NAS North Island (where I would serve in the late 70s and early 80s), Earl and his sub at the sub base at Point Loma. They were both interested in the other's occupational field, so they agreed that Earl would take Dad out on a sub for a day or two on its next exercise and Dad would take Earl up in an SB2C Helldiver on a simulated dive-bombing mission. When they returned from their respective outings, both agreed that there wasn't enough money in the world to get them do to the other's job.
I’m a US Navy bootcamp graduate 47 years ago and became a nuclear power plant operator on US fast attack submarines. The people that went out on these WWII diesel submarines were far braver than myself. I’m not sure I would have volunteered to ride them.
We have her sister ship. The USS Cod docked on Lake Erie at Cleveland. Even with the amenities, you would be surprised by how cramped life aboard was. It's well worth the time to take a tour of one of these remaining subs. It gives you an appreciation for the young men from across our country who found themselves serving on one. As usual, a great video. Thanks for your dedication and work.
I used to be a deckhand for two years on the USS Pampanito Submarine Museum. I had no idea Snook as well as Pampanito had an unfortunate history with hell ships. On Pamp’s third war patrol in the South China Sea, she along with Growler and Sealion attacked a Japanese convoy, two of the ships sunk that night were unfortunately hell ships and one of them, the Kachidoki Maru, was sunk by Pampanito herself. Unaware of her human cargo, Pampanito went off to hunt down more of the convoy, only returning to the original area 3 days later. Initially when they came across rafts of flotsam and lifeboats, the crew thought they were Japanese survivors and were cautious about approaching them, it was only after they realized they were British and Australian POWs did they start rescuing them as fast as they could. Pampanito herself rescued 73 men, her whole crew slept out on the main deck so that the former pows could sleep on the beds, bedding was even put on the empty torpedo skids just so that everyone they rescued had a place to rest. There’s 16mm footage of the rescue here on TH-cam, and I highly recommend the book “Return From The River Kwai”, it chronicles all of the POWs journey from prison camp, to hell ship, to rescue and repatriation
Just an outstanding job in telling this heartbreaking story and giving another glimpse into the horrors of war, and that war in particular. Those brave men! I can't even begin to fathom how they did it. They died heroes, every one of them.
Another fantastic, but heartbreaking episode. There is NO WAY I could handle being on a Sub. I'm somewhat claustrophobic and would lose it after one day. I really admire their courage.
I toured the U-505 in the Chicago museum. I felt claustrophobic in that vessel, on land and peace time. Imagine what those men endured under attack 300’ deep. Courage? More then I’ll ever have.
I am so impressed by the "Respect" you give to those that died, you give this respect freely even though you have never meant any of those in this video or any of your videos for that matter. Great job.
The dedication you put in to the old pictures and footage is really amazing. This channel is so much better than any history channel on TV. Thanks so much for your hard work and dedication
Another sister sub the USS Silversides 236 is docked in Muskegon, MI as well. It is a museum ship and you can take tours also there. It is surprising how cramped it is on there
USS SIRAGO SS 485 (a Portsmouth boat) had four batteries so most potable water was used to keep them topped off. Consequently there was no surplus water for showers ; we used the two shower stalls to stow our garbage until we dumped it over the side.
If you haven't watched it already, check out Drachinefel's video about the Mark 14 torpedo called 'Failure is like onions', or something like that. It's hilarious.
Submarine technology is fascinating. I love touring museum subs. I have deep respect for anybody who crews one. As for doing it myself, stick a torpedo into that idea, no way.
Astonishing to think that an admirals ego meant that the fix for the obviously defective torpedoes was delaled SO long. That admiral king who dispised the british navy brass (understandable) so much that he delayed the british enspired 'convoy' system for merchant shipping is beyond sick, condemning, many sailors to a death.
You are aware that the refusal of congress to provide proper funding was the direct cause of the torpedo issues? I believe that they allocated something like $100,000 total for development and testing. Even by the monetary standards of the time that was pitifully inadequate. The reality was the British Navy Brass was (certainly at the beginning of WW2 must better at their jobs than the American Equivalent. With a centuries old traditional of victory. Which showed. That rubbed King, understandably up the wrong way. That wasn't the fault of the American Navy or it's Officer's. It was directly the fault of the whole way Americas political system operated. Under the British System Admirals were Naval Officers first and Politicians a distance second. Promotion in the Royal Navy was (mostly) by seniority and merit. With strict rules as to when an Officer had to retire if they weren't promoted Under the American system, An Admiral has to be confirmed by Congress. They are therefore a political appointee. So you have a ridiculous situation of the Admiral having to be a politician first, and a Naval Officer second. King was, by any reasonable standard, an awkward, outspoken, probably too blunt for his own good, bugger. If he hadn't been supremely good at his job, he would probably have been retired as a Captain. It's interesting to note that once we introduced him to an equally awkward and good bugger by the name of Mountbatten relationships between him and the Royal Navy improved immensely.
actually false. We simply did not have the escorts to form convoys. Troop transports and trans atlantic convoys had the priority. This LIE has been told by the enemies of King to try and discredit him. When Roosevelt called him about his King was blunt. "You want the supplies to reach England and the troops to get where they need to go? This is the price." Look up Bucket Brigade. There were several things tried to ameliorate things. There simply was not the military assets to do much more than was done.
I don't know why you're blaming Admiral King for the torpedo problems... Google "did Admiral King have jurisdiction over the Bureau of Ordnance" and this is the answer: "No, Admiral Ernest J. King did not have direct authority over the Bureau of Ordnance (BuOrd)." In 1942, Admiral King intervened on behalf of the Submarine crews and was finally able to convince the Bureau of Ordnance to look into the Mk 14 torpedo defects. Furthermore, Google searches regarding the Mk 14 torpedo's development and flaws reveal: "The Mk-XIV torpedo and Mark-6 exploder were designed, tested, and manufactured by the Naval Torpedo Station, Newport, Rhode Island (directly supervised by the Bureau of Ordnance). The Mark-6 exploder was the Navy's secret weapon." "What's more, the submarine service did not develop the Mark 14 torpedo, it was developed entirely by the Navy's Bureau of Ordnance (BuOrd) in strict secrecy." "The Bureau of Ordnance (BuOrd) convinced itself that at $10,000 a piece, the Mark 14 was just too expensive to blow up during testing." In other words, the Bureau of Ordnance is entirely to blame, both for the defects and for how long it took to fix the defects.
thank you for mentioning the atrocities committed by imperial Japan, it's far too often left out when imperial Japan is covered. Their actions in China are comparable to their ally h!tlers atrocities in Europe, and they've never apologized for it (the US kinda let them get away with it btw) great video!
Thx. Great video. It's worth mentioning that the 1922 Washington naval treaty was just as much about curtailing the debilitating economic debt that was incurred when countries became involved in naval arms races, as it was about reducing the risk of war. It took vast amounts of wealth to build and maintain large fleets of battleships, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers, etc., not to mention the hundreds of other smaller vessels that would be required to support them when assembled into battle groups. As a point of reference, USS Texas cost over 2 million dollars to build over 100 years ago, which was a huge amount of money in those days. Trying to keep up in a worldwide arms race could destroy the economies of many nations. Those ships that the Germans scuttled in Scapa Flow represented a huge loss dollar wise in war reparations to the victors after WW1.... United States submarine development prior to WW2 was focused on building what were termed as fleet submarines. As the name implies, their primary role was to be scouting and reconnaissance for the fleet, and not necessarily becoming directly involved in lone engagements with surface war ships. Basically, they were rather expensive to build, and were also considered to be quite vulnerable to attack by ASW vessels. As a result of this line of reasoning, the captains were trained to conduct operations very conservatively and with as much stealth as possible, acting as eyes and ears for the fleet. As it was, the whole strategy was a dismal failure. With a maximum surface speed of around 20 knots, the subs built were never able to attain the speeds necessary to even keep up with surface vessels moving at engagement speed, let alone range out ahead of them to do any scouting. Further, any such attempts would greatly reduce their range and put a huge strain on the propulsion system. Make no mistake, the United States built some excellent subs, but they were never useful for the role that the navy originally intended. Once the war broke out, everything changed, and even though they were burdened with the horrible Mark 14 torpedo, they did an outstanding job. We all owe a debt of sincerest gratitude to the men of the Silent Service.
When I joined the US Navy the recruiter asked, “how would you like to serve on a boat that’s designed to sink?” I simply said, “nope.” Then I went on to serve on aircraft carriers. A decision I’ve never regretted.
This is a great Channel. I joined the Navy in 1987 and got out in 1993. I joined during Reagan and left the Navy when Clinton was president... The cold war had ended and the US was cutting back on the military... My grandfather was on the aircraft carrier Wasp during WWII. He would have been a pilot but in 1945 he was diagnosed as color blind. He did go on to serve during Korea. I was a helicopter aircrewman.
Here we go ! Love the channel my guy, staying away from all of those a.i cookie cutter channels that run rampant...😒 Oh also, Love the voice, please don't ever sellout! Stay You 🫵💪🥳
Most subs of the era were fitted with the vertically opposed Fairbanks-Morse diesel. It's unique design was taller and thinner than most large diesels of the era, making it a good fit for submarine engine rooms. But that design also made them a challenge to work on, especially the bottom cylinders. Navy submarine diesel engineers were an amazing breed!
Ships transporting POWs were supposed to be clearly marked. The Japanese intentionally did not mark their POW ships to both cause situations like the snook, and cause allied ships and airpower to think twice. They were some real bastards at the time
Like in many similar comments, this is failure to understand their culture and honor system. Those that surrendered had lost their honor and in culture that values honor the most, such individuals were seen worse than filth so anything goes pretty much, specially since they didnt even commit seppuku to retrieve their lost honor after capture. Completely different mindset that clashed with western values. Also it didnt help the emperor was seen as the literal God at the time and from there we get to gods chosen people, but that particular phrase is nothing new even today. In the end war is hell and it happens what ever we like it or not, just try to keep civilians out of it, but sometimes the line is rather blurry so shit happens. Its not like there is any country that havent done literal warcrimes during nations existence, so singling out just a few that lost the war just goes to show how long the propaganda has lived and is likely to live, though people have started to question the absolute garbage that has been presented as official history.
Civilization has become soft.. I think to myself as I read many of the comments. War IS hell and many of the service members were barely out of high school.. if that! But they felt "privileged" to serve for the USA. God bless them! RIP!
That was excellent. What an amazing ship she was, such a history. I'd never heard of her. Thank you for the work you put in. Truly excellent 🌹⚓ Salute! 🌹⚓
I imagine that during World War II that many ships on all sides disappeared without a trace. So it's fascinating to hear a story about one of them. My, admittedly uninformed, guess is that the submarine was sunk by the Japanese navy. A second, less likely, possibility was that the Snook was sunk by one of its own torpedoes, which circled back. This was a known problem, as you stated early on in the video. Thank you for another great video on maritime history.
I like stories about war time vessels, because some of the fights were pretty intense. Have you thought about doing a video on the PT109 Kennedy story, because not many people know the amazing story of it's sinking. I try to comment to help the algorithm, and watch your sponsor material to help your channel. You do a great job on these video's, and you research thing's properly, while paying respect when vessels sink and people die. G-d bless.
Welllll yep, way to go. You've officially reinforced my thalassophobia by an order of magnitude with that little gem of an outro... Gugh. That shit gave me chills.
@@guaporeturns9472 Any old naval history told in a parable soothing way i like while im working. Why are you subscribed? Are you a sailor? I dont think so. Youre prolly a walmart worker getting upset by a stranger's "insensitive" comment on a youtube video. Man...these wyte dudes for Kamala smh
24:17 I kind of hope they never find out because learning that you killed so many of your own countrymen who were held captive by the enemy could be soul-shattering for some of these guys. That's it. They are no longer capable of functioning properly after hearing that they murdered so many of their own countrymen. It's not an easy one to swallow
A blue on blue action is indeed a hard pill to swallow, I met a Vietnam vet while volunteering at a Veterans Day event in the 2010's, he was a artilleryman during the war and after hearing a few of his stories, he told me one where the VC had engaged some Marines over a hill and they were tasked with providing fire support due to bad weather preventing CAS from going up, lobbing a total of 40 rounds across 4 guns. As it would turn out they were given the wrong cords and ended up lobbing those rounds onto the Marines rather than the VC, out of the 40 Marines and the handful of attached ARVN only 18 made it back unscathed, with 11 being KIA and the remainder being WIA with the VC retaining the hill. He said the responsibility and guilt he felt from that caused him to turn to drinking, eventually becoming a alcoholic which destroyed his marriage and several attempts at self deletion over the course of 30 years, until another vet event he attended in the late 90's caused him to run into one of those Marines from that hill, after swapping stories they put two and two together placing them at that engagement in Nam. After talking about what happened the Marine forgave him and I guess in his mind helped absolve him of his sins and come to peace with what happened. Unfortunately I found out a few years ago he ended up passing away from cirrhosis of the liver, very likely due to the excessive drinking, I can only hope he passed with a clean conscious and didn't take that guilt to the grave.
Were all these ship sinkings ever confirmed? Just like pilots and tank crews, I'd wager sub commanders during ww2, loved to blow their achievements out of proportion
Most were, some were not. But crews would be able to tell if their torpedoes hit or not. But if you look through a sub's history, if you look through their battle history and see a "damaged, presumed sunk," that's an unconfirmed sinking.
Sinking freight ships filled with American POWs happen far often than stated here ,the US Navy eliminated FAR more American POWs than the Japanese ever did, this was considered acceptable
Unfortunately, submarines were frequently liable to vanish without trace during WW2. Several have even done so after the war, some in very recent times! It is in their nature to be elusive, but operating beneath the surface is a very unforgiving environment, and what may begin as a minor issue can result in the loss of the vessel and its crew. That there are still WW2 submarines unaccounted for seems wrong, the Navy should make an effort to locate their wrecks.
can we plz get a video with you in it, there's no need to hide your face with this type of content. you will grow much faster and it's much more personable. why do you not appear in vids? out of the 70ish subs i have only 3 have not appeared on cam, and are next on the chopping block. this is a social media app, we want to see you, plz give us some face time. historic travels and oceanliner designs does. it's nice seeing the person talking to us
I cried after this video. I prayed for these souls and all the souls lost during the many wars in history- both in US and international. One day there will be no more death, pain, tears or sorrows. God is sovereign and He is a good God. Thank you Jesus for dying on the cross.
No more death or pain? Good or evil? You know god is an infinite almighty omnipotent being above time/space who is so soo much bigger than all that right?
gotta be honest, I listen to BOB in the car regularly, and really enjoy them, but this one was a massive snoozefest. Just seemed to drag and drag and drag, with video clips that didn't seem to have any bearing on the story. Other than the factoid about the POW, this video is too long by 33 minutes and 15 seconds.
When I studied WW2 US SUBS in high school it was stated that they had a picket line of fishing boats with radios to report allied movements,that being said it's not good if they weren't japanese pickets...but if they were japanese fishing or not it's still a target
@@wirelessone2986 Further, "fishing" boats could also be used to transport supplies, the theory being that they wouldn't be considered worthwhile targets, and therefore could pass safely. I will also add that I'm disappointed that you focused on fishing boat attacks to criticize while completely ignoring the Bataan Death March where people were shot and left on the road if they couldn't keep up
@The-yp7lr Don't play mental and emotional gymnastics, the Bataan death march is not on topic,I'm talking fishing boats only,not heavy cruisers (like USS DACE sank) and not carriers (like Archerfish sank) and not land based death marches,I'm also no talking unit 731 or B29's or atom bombs...or gettysburg or Cowpens,or the Spanish American war or the shot heard around the world...just fishing boats and if your fishing boat is 100's of miles out to sea way past normal fishing grounds and you speak japanese...its not looking good for you and your probably a picket fishing boat
@The-yp7lr Plus I was just mentioning this and telling you what the history books stated on why they went after them...I wasn't criticizing until my second comment.
Without water, a person can die after 3 days, and usually no one can survive for more than 5-6 days. Dr. Claude Piantadosi of North Carolina's Duke University says 100 hours is around the limit.
@@csolivais1979 Without water, a person can die after 3 days, and usually no one can survive for more than 5-6 days. Dr. Claude Piantadosi of North Carolina's Duke University says 100 hours is around the limit.
I am an alumnus of the US Naval Academy, and I have been watching this channel for some time (it's fantastic, keep up the great work). I While I was at USNA 30+ years ago, I had the privilege of meeting submariners from this era, and they were impressive individuals with many harrowing stories. I'm glad that you picked one of them to tell, and I am eager to hear more.
Respect, Sir. I'm just a second gen Jarhead, but that was a tough school, was it not? I got to walk through the U 505 as a child. They may have been our enemy, but submariners are all a brave lot
My father was an Annapolis graduate (class of 40). An underclassman and friend of his, Capt. Earl Barret (41, I believe) married my mother's cousin. After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Dad went on to fly with the Lexington's airgroup, while Earl went on to submarines. After the war, both were based out of San Diego: Dad over at NAS North Island (where I would serve in the late 70s and early 80s), Earl and his sub at the sub base at Point Loma. They were both interested in the other's occupational field, so they agreed that Earl would take Dad out on a sub for a day or two on its next exercise and Dad would take Earl up in an SB2C Helldiver on a simulated dive-bombing mission. When they returned from their respective outings, both agreed that there wasn't enough money in the world to get them do to the other's job.
Wow an Academy grad that is a Opeth fan?
I’m a US Navy bootcamp graduate 47 years ago and became a nuclear power plant operator on US fast attack submarines. The people that went out on these WWII diesel submarines were far braver than myself. I’m not sure I would have volunteered to ride them.
We have her sister ship. The USS Cod docked on Lake Erie at Cleveland. Even with the amenities, you would be surprised by how cramped life aboard was. It's well worth the time to take a tour of one of these remaining subs. It gives you an appreciation for the young men from across our country who found themselves serving on one. As usual, a great video. Thanks for your dedication and work.
I toured the USS Cobia is Manitowoc and I had a really hard time getting around in it. I’m 6’4 and did not fit very well.
I used to be a deckhand for two years on the USS Pampanito Submarine Museum. I had no idea Snook as well as Pampanito had an unfortunate history with hell ships. On Pamp’s third war patrol in the South China Sea, she along with Growler and Sealion attacked a Japanese convoy, two of the ships sunk that night were unfortunately hell ships and one of them, the Kachidoki Maru, was sunk by Pampanito herself. Unaware of her human cargo, Pampanito went off to hunt down more of the convoy, only returning to the original area 3 days later. Initially when they came across rafts of flotsam and lifeboats, the crew thought they were Japanese survivors and were cautious about approaching them, it was only after they realized they were British and Australian POWs did they start rescuing them as fast as they could. Pampanito herself rescued 73 men, her whole crew slept out on the main deck so that the former pows could sleep on the beds, bedding was even put on the empty torpedo skids just so that everyone they rescued had a place to rest. There’s 16mm footage of the rescue here on TH-cam, and I highly recommend the book “Return From The River Kwai”, it chronicles all of the POWs journey from prison camp, to hell ship, to rescue and repatriation
The narrator’s vocal quality genuinely conveys compassion and sorrow. So many dreams for the future lost.
They are on eternal patrol.
Just an outstanding job in telling this heartbreaking story and giving another glimpse into the horrors of war, and that war in particular. Those brave men! I can't even begin to fathom how they did it. They died heroes, every one of them.
Another fantastic, but heartbreaking episode. There is NO WAY I could handle being on a Sub. I'm somewhat claustrophobic and would lose it after one day. I really admire their courage.
I toured the U-505 in the Chicago museum. I felt claustrophobic in that vessel, on land and peace time. Imagine what those men endured under attack 300’ deep. Courage? More then I’ll ever have.
Well told story. May those men rest in peace. Thank you.
Your videos about wartime losses are amazingly thoughtful. Thank you for your service.
A very respectful & touching story to honor the memory of those brave men that remain lost.
I am so impressed by the "Respect" you give to those that died, you give this respect freely even though you have never meant any of those in this video or any of your videos for that matter. Great job.
The dedication you put in to the old pictures and footage is really amazing. This channel is so much better than any history channel on TV. Thanks so much for your hard work and dedication
Happiness is a whole gale at 30 feet. That's why many left the 'surface skimmers' and headed for the boats.
Another sister sub the USS Silversides 236 is docked in Muskegon, MI as well. It is a museum ship and you can take tours also there. It is surprising how cramped it is on there
Thank you for sharing the story of the Snook and the service of her crew.
USS SIRAGO SS 485 (a Portsmouth boat) had four batteries so most potable water was used to keep them topped off. Consequently there was no surplus water for showers ; we used the two shower stalls to stow our garbage until we dumped it over the side.
If you haven't watched it already, check out Drachinefel's video about the Mark 14 torpedo called 'Failure is like onions', or something like that. It's hilarious.
Great video. My dad served on a Gato boat, the USS Rock.
really well made, thoroughly enjoyed!
Everything about submarines are my personal genre of nightmare fuel.
Are you claustrophobic?
Submarine technology is fascinating. I love touring museum subs. I have deep respect for anybody who crews one. As for doing it myself, stick a torpedo into that idea, no way.
you should look up the soviet sub K19
or the scorpion
Submarines are where engineering becomes theology and faith.
USS Snook?!? The name piqued my curiosity so here we go.....I know I'll learn alot from you!
Dutch word for pike (snoek). A common freshwater/salty water fish.
Loved this!!
You did an amazing job telling the story
Thank you
A sad, sobering story, told with drama and wonderful "production values." I am extremely impressed.
Great story. Wonderful storytelling. Highlight of my Saturday. Thank you
Thank you. By far one of my most favorite channels.
Astonishing to think that an admirals ego meant that the fix for the obviously defective torpedoes was delaled SO long. That admiral king who dispised the british navy brass (understandable) so much that he delayed the british enspired 'convoy' system for merchant shipping is beyond sick, condemning, many sailors to a death.
You are aware that the refusal of congress to provide proper funding was the direct cause of the torpedo issues? I believe that they allocated something like $100,000 total for development and testing. Even by the monetary standards of the time that was pitifully inadequate. The reality was the British Navy Brass was (certainly at the beginning of WW2 must better at their jobs than the American Equivalent. With a centuries old traditional of victory. Which showed. That rubbed King, understandably up the wrong way.
That wasn't the fault of the American Navy or it's Officer's. It was directly the fault of the whole way Americas political system operated.
Under the British System Admirals were Naval Officers first and Politicians a distance second. Promotion in the Royal Navy was (mostly) by seniority and merit. With strict rules as to when an Officer had to retire if they weren't promoted
Under the American system, An Admiral has to be confirmed by Congress. They are therefore a political appointee. So you have a ridiculous situation of the Admiral having to be a politician first, and a Naval Officer second.
King was, by any reasonable standard, an awkward, outspoken, probably too blunt for his own good, bugger. If he hadn't been supremely good at his job, he would probably have been retired as a Captain.
It's interesting to note that once we introduced him to an equally awkward and good bugger by the name of Mountbatten relationships between him and the Royal Navy improved immensely.
actually false. We simply did not have the escorts to form convoys. Troop transports and trans atlantic convoys had the priority. This LIE has been told by the enemies of King to try and discredit him. When Roosevelt called him about his King was blunt.
"You want the supplies to reach England and the troops to get where they need to go? This is the price."
Look up Bucket Brigade. There were several things tried to ameliorate things. There simply was not the military assets to do much more than was done.
I don't know why you're blaming Admiral King for the torpedo problems... Google "did Admiral King have jurisdiction over the Bureau of Ordnance" and this is the answer: "No, Admiral Ernest J. King did not have direct authority over the Bureau of Ordnance (BuOrd)."
In 1942, Admiral King intervened on behalf of the Submarine crews and was finally able to convince the Bureau of Ordnance to look into the Mk 14 torpedo defects. Furthermore, Google searches regarding the Mk 14 torpedo's development and flaws reveal:
"The Mk-XIV torpedo and Mark-6 exploder were designed, tested, and manufactured by the Naval Torpedo Station, Newport, Rhode Island (directly supervised by the Bureau of Ordnance). The Mark-6 exploder was the Navy's secret weapon." "What's more, the submarine service did not develop the Mark 14 torpedo, it was developed entirely by the Navy's Bureau of Ordnance (BuOrd) in strict secrecy." "The Bureau of Ordnance (BuOrd) convinced itself that at $10,000 a piece, the Mark 14 was just too expensive to blow up during testing."
In other words, the Bureau of Ordnance is entirely to blame, both for the defects and for how long it took to fix the defects.
May fair winds and following seas favor them on their Eternal Patrol.
thank you for mentioning the atrocities committed by imperial Japan, it's far too often left out when imperial Japan is covered. Their actions in China are comparable to their ally h!tlers atrocities in Europe, and they've never apologized for it (the US kinda let them get away with it btw) great video!
Next time please cover famous ORP Orzeł escape from Tallin and its later disappearance.
Wow that was pretty dark, especially the hell ship incident 😢
Thx. Great video. It's worth mentioning that the 1922 Washington naval treaty was just as much about curtailing the debilitating economic debt that was incurred when countries became involved in naval arms races, as it was about reducing the risk of war. It took vast amounts of wealth to build and maintain large fleets of battleships, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers, etc., not to mention the hundreds of other smaller vessels that would be required to support them when assembled into battle groups. As a point of reference, USS Texas cost over 2 million dollars to build over 100 years ago, which was a huge amount of money in those days. Trying to keep up in a worldwide arms race could destroy the economies of many nations. Those ships that the Germans scuttled in Scapa Flow represented a huge loss dollar wise in war reparations to the victors after WW1....
United States submarine development prior to WW2 was focused on building what were termed as fleet submarines. As the name implies, their primary role was to be scouting and reconnaissance for the fleet, and not necessarily becoming directly involved in lone engagements with surface war ships. Basically, they were rather expensive to build, and were also considered to be quite vulnerable to attack by ASW vessels. As a result of this line of reasoning, the captains were trained to conduct operations very conservatively and with as much stealth as possible, acting as eyes and ears for the fleet. As it was, the whole strategy was a dismal failure. With a maximum surface speed of around 20 knots, the subs built were never able to attain the speeds necessary to even keep up with surface vessels moving at engagement speed, let alone range out ahead of them to do any scouting. Further, any such attempts would greatly reduce their range and put a huge strain on the propulsion system. Make no mistake, the United States built some excellent subs, but they were never useful for the role that the navy originally intended. Once the war broke out, everything changed, and even though they were burdened with the horrible Mark 14 torpedo, they did an outstanding job. We all owe a debt of sincerest gratitude to the men of the Silent Service.
Another really great history story of our old boats and ships and i always watch your videos. Thank you for your work.
When I joined the US Navy the recruiter asked, “how would you like to serve on a boat that’s designed to sink?” I simply said, “nope.” Then I went on to serve on aircraft carriers. A decision I’ve never regretted.
This is a great Channel. I joined the Navy in 1987 and got out in 1993. I joined during Reagan and left the Navy when Clinton was president... The cold war had ended and the US was cutting back on the military... My grandfather was on the aircraft carrier Wasp during WWII. He would have been a pilot but in 1945 he was diagnosed as color blind. He did go on to serve during Korea. I was a helicopter aircrewman.
My grandfather was on the USS Wasp during WWII too!
An excellent presentation of an extremely "sad" naval episode during war duty. Great work & thank you for sharing!
Here we go ! Love the channel my guy, staying away from all of those a.i cookie cutter channels that run rampant...😒 Oh also, Love the voice, please don't ever sellout! Stay You 🫵💪🥳
like, titanic uploads ad nauseum? 🤣
The Portsmouth Naval Shipyard is in Kittery, Maine. Portsmouth, NH is across the Piscataqua river.
Yay! B O B another Saturday morning vid!🎉 thanks!
So cool this Sub has Fairbanks-Morse engines since they are in my Town.
Most subs of the era were fitted with the vertically opposed Fairbanks-Morse diesel. It's unique design was taller and thinner than most large diesels of the era, making it a good fit for submarine engine rooms. But that design also made them a challenge to work on, especially the bottom cylinders. Navy submarine diesel engineers were an amazing breed!
Ships transporting POWs were supposed to be clearly marked. The Japanese intentionally did not mark their POW ships to both cause situations like the snook, and cause allied ships and airpower to think twice. They were some real bastards at the time
Like in many similar comments, this is failure to understand their culture and honor system. Those that surrendered had lost their honor and in culture that values honor the most, such individuals were seen worse than filth so anything goes pretty much, specially since they didnt even commit seppuku to retrieve their lost honor after capture. Completely different mindset that clashed with western values. Also it didnt help the emperor was seen as the literal God at the time and from there we get to gods chosen people, but that particular phrase is nothing new even today. In the end war is hell and it happens what ever we like it or not, just try to keep civilians out of it, but sometimes the line is rather blurry so shit happens. Its not like there is any country that havent done literal warcrimes during nations existence, so singling out just a few that lost the war just goes to show how long the propaganda has lived and is likely to live, though people have started to question the absolute garbage that has been presented as official history.
Spooky stories and Boats, two of my favourite things mushed together. Great video as always
Damn, this is a grim story. A very interesting one, for sure, but even if the sub hadn't gone down, this would be a hard tale.
Always love your history lessons. You checkout the uss trout sub. Lost in secret mission that may have change the war. Wife’s grandfather was in it.
Big Old Boats!!!! That's my Saturday night sorted thank you very much! 😂😊
Civilization has become soft.. I think to myself as I read many of the comments. War IS hell and many of the service members were barely out of high school.. if that! But they felt "privileged" to serve for the USA. God bless them! RIP!
Excellent work!
That was excellent. What an amazing ship she was, such a history. I'd never heard of her. Thank you for the work you put in. Truly excellent 🌹⚓ Salute! 🌹⚓
I imagine that during World War II that many ships on all sides disappeared without a trace. So it's fascinating to hear a story about one of them.
My, admittedly uninformed, guess is that the submarine was sunk by the Japanese navy. A second, less likely, possibility was that the Snook was sunk by one of its own torpedoes, which circled back. This was a known problem, as you stated early on in the video.
Thank you for another great video on maritime history.
I like stories about war time vessels, because some of the fights were pretty intense. Have you thought about doing a video on the PT109 Kennedy story, because not many people know the amazing story of it's sinking. I try to comment to help the algorithm, and watch your sponsor material to help your channel. You do a great job on these video's, and you research thing's properly, while paying respect when vessels sink and people die.
G-d bless.
Great video, that music is poignant and eerie.
Thank you men of the Snook. You are not forgotten.
Welllll yep, way to go. You've officially reinforced my thalassophobia by an order of magnitude with that little gem of an outro... Gugh. That shit gave me chills.
i live like 5 miles away from the portsmouth naval ship yard!! Cool stuff
great beginning of a weekend
Lamont’s family estate is in Palisades, NY. Which is now a satellite campus of Columbia University for scientific research.
Greetings: USS Snook RIP. Thx 4 Ur service.
I really like this new round of videos you've made for the channel! I've subscribed long ago, so keep up your Outstanding work on this platform!!! ❤❤
Another excellent job!
Ww2 museum in New Orleans has a great simulation of submarines in ww2
Well told, as always. 👍
Santa Claus is a swindle?!
Accurate and well told! You have done justice to the sacrifice of these men!
There is a debate whether the torpedo that sank the Arisan Maru was from the USS Shark or USS Snook.
Interesting
The Brits limited a sailors service in subs to 10 years, it was not out of concern for their mental health but because of the higher pay rate.
Well researched.
When submarines disappear, you know shit is bad
Oh my god, Soo well done!
semper fortis ... semper fi 👋
Well told!
She could have been sunk accidentally by the US destroyer in the area.
That's why there's no record! It was a cover up.
While possible, because it has happened, the destroyer would of reported that they had attacked a sub.
@@csolivais1979 Yes , possibly!
I was feeling down. Saw your upload and now my weekend has a happier beginning
Edit: Btw that was USS Shark that sank Arisan Maru, not Snook
Stories about missing submarines and men dying horrific deaths lift your mood? Strange , but whatever.
This is weird
@@guaporeturns9472 Any old naval history told in a parable soothing way i like while im working. Why are you subscribed? Are you a sailor? I dont think so. Youre prolly a walmart worker getting upset by a stranger's "insensitive" comment on a youtube video. Man...these wyte dudes for Kamala smh
Last photo hit home, I'm in one like that.
The not knowing what happened is the scariest part. Jeepers!
So close to the end of the war.
24:17 I kind of hope they never find out because learning that you killed so many of your own countrymen who were held captive by the enemy could be soul-shattering for some of these guys. That's it. They are no longer capable of functioning properly after hearing that they murdered so many of their own countrymen. It's not an easy one to swallow
Something tells me they aren't going to find out.
@Christine-db2hq I get the joke but you know what I mean 😜
A blue on blue action is indeed a hard pill to swallow, I met a Vietnam vet while volunteering at a Veterans Day event in the 2010's, he was a artilleryman during the war and after hearing a few of his stories, he told me one where the VC had engaged some Marines over a hill and they were tasked with providing fire support due to bad weather preventing CAS from going up, lobbing a total of 40 rounds across 4 guns.
As it would turn out they were given the wrong cords and ended up lobbing those rounds onto the Marines rather than the VC, out of the 40 Marines and the handful of attached ARVN only 18 made it back unscathed, with 11 being KIA and the remainder being WIA with the VC retaining the hill.
He said the responsibility and guilt he felt from that caused him to turn to drinking, eventually becoming a alcoholic which destroyed his marriage and several attempts at self deletion over the course of 30 years, until another vet event he attended in the late 90's caused him to run into one of those Marines from that hill, after swapping stories they put two and two together placing them at that engagement in Nam.
After talking about what happened the Marine forgave him and I guess in his mind helped absolve him of his sins and come to peace with what happened. Unfortunately I found out a few years ago he ended up passing away from cirrhosis of the liver, very likely due to the excessive drinking, I can only hope he passed with a clean conscious and didn't take that guilt to the grave.
Neet info i known of a few thanks
why do i feel like ive heard this before
Excellent
Were all these ship sinkings ever confirmed? Just like pilots and tank crews, I'd wager sub commanders during ww2, loved to blow their achievements out of proportion
Most were, some were not. But crews would be able to tell if their torpedoes hit or not. But if you look through a sub's history, if you look through their battle history and see a "damaged, presumed sunk," that's an unconfirmed sinking.
“POWs of war”
Sinking freight ships filled with American POWs happen far often than stated here ,the US Navy eliminated FAR more American POWs than the Japanese ever did, this was considered acceptable
Having been both in subs and anti sub warfare I prefer to be in the air. What's not to like about flying to deployment.
They called them Pig boats for a reason.
Unfortunately, submarines were frequently liable to vanish without trace during WW2.
Several have even done so after the war, some in very recent times!
It is in their nature to be elusive, but operating beneath the surface is a very unforgiving environment, and what may begin as a minor issue can result in the loss of the vessel and its crew.
That there are still WW2 submarines unaccounted for seems wrong, the Navy should make an effort to locate their wrecks.
Not so fun fact: the Lima Maru had upwards of 300 American POWs in the cargo hold
Now i remember this story when snuck got snuqerd
can we plz get a video with you in it, there's no need to hide your face with this type of content. you will grow much faster and it's much more personable. why do you not appear in vids? out of the 70ish subs i have only 3 have not appeared on cam, and are next on the chopping block. this is a social media app, we want to see you, plz give us some face time. historic travels and oceanliner designs does. it's nice seeing the person talking to us
I cried after this video. I prayed for these souls and all the souls lost during the many wars in history- both in US and international.
One day there will be no more death, pain, tears or sorrows. God is sovereign and He is a good God. Thank you Jesus for dying on the cross.
Amen 🙏
No more death or pain? Good or evil? You know god is an infinite almighty omnipotent being above time/space who is so soo much bigger than all that right?
Its like Christianity is idolatry in the original sense: making god smaller than this unimaginable force really is.
Perhaps karma and Friendly fire got them…
Wouldn't be Karma, at least not as Americans see it. They didn't know that the ship had POWs on it.
Dang! Only 6 hrs after posting & I am STILL NOT the first person to make a comment! Just like me, everyone else loves this channel as well! lol lol
gotta be honest, I listen to BOB in the car regularly, and really enjoy them, but this one was a massive snoozefest. Just seemed to drag and drag and drag, with video clips that didn't seem to have any bearing on the story. Other than the factoid about the POW, this video is too long by 33 minutes and 15 seconds.
Q: what happened A: Mk14
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where not anymore in Kansas...Great Lakes...
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You know, war is abhorrent and pointless in my eyes... but targeting primative civilian fishing vessels is a new stinking low.
When I studied WW2 US SUBS in high school it was stated that they had a picket line of fishing boats with radios to report allied movements,that being said it's not good if they weren't japanese pickets...but if they were japanese fishing or not it's still a target
@@wirelessone2986 Further, "fishing" boats could also be used to transport supplies, the theory being that they wouldn't be considered worthwhile targets, and therefore could pass safely. I will also add that I'm disappointed that you focused on fishing boat attacks to criticize while completely ignoring the Bataan Death March where people were shot and left on the road if they couldn't keep up
@The-yp7lr Don't play mental and emotional gymnastics, the Bataan death march is not on topic,I'm talking fishing boats only,not heavy cruisers (like USS DACE sank) and not carriers (like Archerfish sank) and not land based death marches,I'm also no talking unit 731 or B29's or atom bombs...or gettysburg or Cowpens,or the Spanish American war or the shot heard around the world...just fishing boats and if your fishing boat is 100's of miles out to sea way past normal fishing grounds and you speak japanese...its not looking good for you and your probably a picket fishing boat
@The-yp7lr Plus I was just mentioning this and telling you what the history books stated on why they went after them...I wasn't criticizing until my second comment.
@wirelessone2986 no, that's why he said "further.." He was just expanding further on your comment.
I think it is great that they keep naming ships based on Harry Potter characters
What HP character was named Snook?
Yay! Now we are all slaves! Thanks Greatest Gen! I hope you enjoyed your pensions/silver pieces.
Weeks in 100 degrees with no food or water? Ye, I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that one.
Without water, a person can die after 3 days, and usually no one can survive for more than 5-6 days. Dr. Claude Piantadosi of North Carolina's Duke University says 100 hours is around the limit.
No, not bullshit. Why do you think so many of them died?
@@csolivais1979 Without water, a person can die after 3 days, and usually no one can survive for more than 5-6 days. Dr. Claude Piantadosi of North Carolina's Duke University says 100 hours is around the limit.
Terrible bass echo in your oral diction. Like inside a BOOM ROOM !!! Suggest correct correct
Jesus Christ is Lord! Amen!