The System Shock Remake is Everything I Wanted it to be

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  • @CharlatanWonder
    @CharlatanWonder  ปีที่แล้ว +35

    th-cam.com/video/IF-nP69SlvM/w-d-xo.html just in case you were wondering, the original System Shock is just as good of a time too!

    • @carljohan9265
      @carljohan9265 ปีที่แล้ว

      How to solve the "my inventory is almost full and I got a bunch of stuff to scrap" problem: Drop your guns to make space, pick everything up, scrap it, pick youor guns back up :)

  • @JaceMorley
    @JaceMorley ปีที่แล้ว +752

    I hope this game sells well. The guy in charge of the company has admitted they don't expect to make money on this, but they're doing well enough on their remaster sales that it's not an existential issue.
    But damn this love for the source material deserves to be rewarded. Updates what needs to be updated, keeps enough to still be very recognizable as the original System Shock.

    • @frug5629
      @frug5629 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Indeed. The experience could use some minor touch ups here and there, but it's an otherwise solid campaign.

    • @prossnip42
      @prossnip42 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      System Shock 1 is a very niche game in an already niche genre of immersive sims and it's not nearly as famous as it's sequel so the fact that it already has over 1000 reviews on steam is pretty impressive

    • @longlivethesheet4561
      @longlivethesheet4561 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It’s racked up over 1,000 reviews already, so that might be a good sign

    • @waltherstolzing9719
      @waltherstolzing9719 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm glad they got this one finished before the company got sold to Atari.

    • @captainufo4587
      @captainufo4587 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@prossnip42 I can't tell if it's my personal TH-cam bubble or what, but everyone and their mother is reviewing and praising the remake, so that bodes well for exposure.

  • @STALVIET
    @STALVIET ปีที่แล้ว +498

    He doesn't mention it in the video, but you can press T to switch ammo types and charge the mag pulse with a second shell, significantly increasing damage over time and makes an aoe where its shot, allowing you to kill multiple bunched up robots. On standard difficulty 2 charged magpulses will kill any robot until late game. Do not believe the mag pulse slander

    • @mcm3adows
      @mcm3adows ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I find it much easier to use in the remake as well, shooting it around corners in the original was a bit of a headache. I think they nerfed it just enough as still shreds robots just fine

    • @SashaMinkh
      @SashaMinkh ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Yep, it sounds like charlatan not only didn't mention it, but says kinda early on "I wish there was a button to swap ammo because right now it's just digging through menu's"
      But yeah, the charged mag pulse is a great tool to knock out robots early on. I feel like if I ever decide to play a hard combat playthrough the magpulse will be a very tactical weapon.

    • @jamesgrose510
      @jamesgrose510 ปีที่แล้ว

      You used to be able to unequip the weapon to safely discharge any shells you pumped in. I wish that was kept in.

    • @doctoradventure413
      @doctoradventure413 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jamesgrose510 you can holster weapons and then empty the ammo in them

    • @breizhrudie4757
      @breizhrudie4757 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Beware that charging up the magpulse costs 1 energy on your energy bar. I find this gun underwhelming, it actually has bullet drop and its damages are actually "sticky-spalsh", as in it will stick to the surface and damage everything around. Can't believe I wasted this over the grenade launcher.

  • @Alex-nk8bw
    @Alex-nk8bw ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Respect the source material - check
    Respect fans' wishes - check
    Create a cool artstyle - check
    Improve only what needs to be improved - check
    Optimize game prior to release - check
    Well done, Nightdive! 🎉

    • @LordTrashcanRulez
      @LordTrashcanRulez ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Respect the source material"
      You can argue about this considering some weapons were removed and new ones were added,
      "Respect fans' wishes"
      Insert pretty much every single gameplay feedback that got thrown out of the window, and the game barely changed from the beta in any meaningful way besides mandatory bug fixes
      "Create a cool artstyle"
      Arguable but I'll give them a point because they didn't go for the generic realistic artstyle modern games use, though I wish it had an option to choose between high and low resolution textures
      "Improve only what needs to be improved"
      Added a recycling system that just adds annoyance because it's half baked, a crap ton of animations that can't be turned off and slows down the gameplay, extremely dumb AI that somehow got worse with the patch, unpredictable grenade rolling behavior, etc etc.
      "Optimize the game prior to release"
      That's something I can agree on. My old computer runs this game with ease on high settings.

    • @aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
      @aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@LordTrashcanRulez
      Nothing ever pleases you because you love being a contrarian.

    • @LordTrashcanRulez
      @LordTrashcanRulez ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 See, this is the problem with modern gaming. You criticize a game, you get a lot of hate even if you were respectful. Unless the game is generally accepted to be 'bad', then you get hate for liking it.

    • @bigboi7817
      @bigboi7817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@LordTrashcanRulez I like the game.

    • @theanarchist_0025
      @theanarchist_0025 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nightdive's founding was based on re-releasing system shock. Failure was not an option to them. And they knew and loved what was great in system shock.

  • @akiba2x0
    @akiba2x0 ปีที่แล้ว +679

    Thank God Night Dive did what Arkane couldn't this year 🙏

    • @blakecasimir
      @blakecasimir ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Probably best to keep an eye on the Arkane members that left to form their own studio...

    • @pricelessppp
      @pricelessppp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No such thing but shoden!

    • @WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo
      @WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@blakecasimir Weird West. That is what they made. I haven't played it but it definitely looks interesting.

    • @TREPLE
      @TREPLE ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGoweird west is amazing highly recommend, Raphael never misses (can’t wait for his studio wolf eye new ip after this)

    • @WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo
      @WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TREPLE I unfortunately don't have much time for gaming currently. It's definitely on my list of ever growing games I need to play/beat/buy.

  • @codecthelios
    @codecthelios ปีที่แล้ว +121

    They did so good remaking the map. Its so recognizable

    • @GiacomoVaccari
      @GiacomoVaccari ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is really the most amazing things. I played the original 4 years ago and I walk into a room of the remaster and I go “oh yeah the cpus are around the corner”. Amazing work!

  • @Gamefreak2998
    @Gamefreak2998 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Charlatan missed the prompt saying “PRESS T TO SWITCH AMMO TYPES”

    • @k0lpA
      @k0lpA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is there a button to vaporize ?

    • @Gamefreak2998
      @Gamefreak2998 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@k0lpA There's a button to back to a previous menu but instead it exits the menu

  • @flare242
    @flare242 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    It's freakin amazing. I'm basically playing it nonstop since it released. I think that their decision to restart the development to get rid of the more modern approach and game mechanics in favour of staying true to the original was the right one. There are moments (especially when i'm exploring for a long time) when i ALMOST feel like they COULD throw in a bit more content here and there, but then it wouldn't be the Shock as we knew and loved.
    Which is what they managed in a pretty amazing, spot-on way. I love the voxelized graphics, i love the original sprites you hallucinate during hangover. I love the levels, the colors, the sounds. The atmosphere is GREAT.
    Nightdive NAILED it.
    I got just a few, VERY minor gripes.
    1.I often get stuck in shallow depressions in the floor. There are these occasional ditches that look completely safe to traverse, but if you fall in them, you cannot climb back out.
    2.Mouse buttons 4&5 cannot be mapped to anything, the game just doesn't see them
    3.It's impossible to split stacks of items, which makes effective inventory management somewhat bothersome, but that's really a minor thing
    4.And the last thing - and that's probably my biggest issue with ReShock, is the voiceover. Although SHODAN is fine, and most of the "realtime" communication is also ok, the voice-logs you're finding around the station are quite a bit weaker.
    I know that the original is pretty much a benchmark of top-tier quality voiceover work, so it's very hard to fairly judge ANYTHING next to it. But after listening to few of the voice logs, i noticed that i'm a bit annoyed by them. The original SS had fantastic production, the actors were great and there was A LOT of atmospheric sound FX UNDER the voiceovers. It felt real. What we got here are commited, but overall just average actors - and a bit of white noise.

    • @JDelwynn
      @JDelwynn ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The OG voice "acting" was horrible. Just a bunch of programmers speaking emotionless into a microphone.

    • @irritablerodent
      @irritablerodent ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, the original vo was amateurish. And that's what made it work. The flat, off beat delivery made the logs odd and interesting. The new ones are just competently acted.

    • @Gameprojordan
      @Gameprojordan ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The only voice acting that was good in the original was Rebecca Lanzigs messages, and Shodan. Everything else was serviceable to downright bad.
      It's especially noticeable in the audio logs that were recorded during Shodans reign of terror, where alot of the voice actors had really monotone voices that didn't convey any fear/anxiety in the character's that were struggling to survive. The ones recorded before Shodan started really going crazy were fine because it's just average Trioptimum employees recording themselves talking normally. It can get away with sounding amateurish in those ones because it fits the scenario
      But yeah, one thing the original DID do well is have alot of appropriately fitting background noise during the audio logs. A major example is when characters were recording themselves while fighting against Shodan's forces, you can hear gun shots, explosions, short circuiting noises, cyborg chatter, bodies dropping on the floor etc going on in the back ground

    • @flare242
      @flare242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JDelwynn Well, i should prolly point out that i barely spoke english back then, so this might be a case of memberberries/nostalgia. Still, you need to compare it to the games of 1994, not with todays standards.

    • @JDelwynn
      @JDelwynn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@flare242 I didn't understand english either back then. Yes, the voice acting in general was pretty bad back then, but that doesn't suddenly make it better.

  • @someguycalledgoose
    @someguycalledgoose ปีที่แล้ว +66

    In regards to the ammo switching thing for the guns that have multiple ammo types: You can use the "change weapon mode" key (The default is T) and it will cycle ammo when you run out of a certain type.

    • @Soul_Tomato
      @Soul_Tomato ปีที่แล้ว

      Was looking to make sure someone said it

  • @papayer
    @papayer ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Wiithout a shadow of a doubt, this is one of the best remakes of a classic game in videogame history. Basically, it's to System Shock as Black Mesa was to Half-Life. Phenomenal job from Nightdive.

  • @Dingghis_Khaan
    @Dingghis_Khaan ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This was not made by people who played System Shock. This was made by people who *_LOVE_* System Shock.
    This is the epitome of a passion project with focus. Delays weren't done to push graphics engines to their breaking point (Cyberpunk 2077), and they weren't done to add meaningless bloat features (Duke Nukem Forever); the delays were done to make it not just _look_ like System Shock, not even to _FEEL_ like System Shock, but to *_BE_* System Shock.

    • @Chris97538
      @Chris97538 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure it was made by people who played system shock

    • @ULTRAOutdoorsman
      @ULTRAOutdoorsman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Chris97538Because they were asked to, after having completed the Kickstarter pitch which alleged that they had played it growing up when they hadn't.

  • @davdass4797
    @davdass4797 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I am pretty sure that the recharge station, restoration bay, cyborg conversion thing is in the base game! There are mines next to the restoration bay though so if you approach it from the wrong direction the entire thing gets blown up and is unusable for the rest of your run. You might have accidentally blown it up and believed that to be unavoidable and just kept playing.

    • @DigitalFulcrum
      @DigitalFulcrum ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh don't worry. You don't really "die" anyways :P

  • @NovastarDoughnut
    @NovastarDoughnut ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the thing i love most about the remake is i love how they take the cassette futurist sci-fi style of the original and really lean heavily into that. the tech is big and chunky with outdated but functional utilitarian sensibility

  • @billyboleson2830
    @billyboleson2830 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here’s the thing, SS1 is a dungeon crawler adventure game in a cyber punk setting while SS2 is a Surviva Horror rpg immersive sim with a sci fi setting. They are practically in two separate genres and it’s why I vastly prefer ss1 over 2

  • @asgads
    @asgads ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Pretty good. I see nothing but praise, and it looks hypnotic. Happy for the developers after that rocky road

  • @m0onunit
    @m0onunit ปีที่แล้ว +35

    You were pretty much right on the money, 3 to 5 years is the average time for a game from pre-production to release.

    • @ULTRAOutdoorsman
      @ULTRAOutdoorsman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So this game took between 1 4/5 and 3 times as long to make as the average game

  • @lyghters
    @lyghters ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Whoops, looks like Charlatan didn't bother to check button mapping :)
    The default button to quickly switch between ammo types, toggling laser pointer or loading an extra charge in mag-pulse is "T"

  • @FloatyBones77
    @FloatyBones77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    24:00 The wiki references this room in the original and I remember it!
    It looks almost identical to what I remember from the original game.
    In the original, though, there were two land mines that could easily destroy the bed. You had to use the Riot Gun’s rubber bullets to shove them away without setting them off, THEN destroy the mines to make the area safe to use.

  • @iheartblock3792
    @iheartblock3792 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Gods that bit on content vs art? That made me tear up, thank you. fuck the corporate machine, fuck the monetization of art into bland, easily reproduce content. Art is made by people, people who think, who feel, who have ideas. It will never go away.

    • @WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo
      @WhereAllYourDeletedCommentsGo ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Your comment has been logged and you have been labelled a dissident. Have a good day.

    • @admiralpepper6933
      @admiralpepper6933 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      -10000 social credits, comrade. The local police force have been notified and would like to have a nice chat with you.

    • @OsirisVas
      @OsirisVas ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@admiralpepper6933 its funny but at the same time sad because from the looks of it this will be the future

    • @admiralpepper6933
      @admiralpepper6933 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OsirisVas
      Sadly indeed.

    • @lorecow88
      @lorecow88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's more of an unholy marriage of corporatism and dangerous ideologies. Art CAN be created under a corporation if they're more hands off, but things like ESG represent the outright death of art. Billionaires providing monetary incentives as well as borderline extorting corpos into neutering their products from inception.

  • @Quantum1244
    @Quantum1244 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Big tip for you man, so if you press T with a weapon out and have the alternative ammo, you’ll automatically switch to that ammo type, same goes for weapons like the Sparq except it’ll cycle through the shock levels

  • @lionocyborg6030
    @lionocyborg6030 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    24:03 That was in the original game too. The surgery machine was mined so while you could use it, if you got too close the mines would destroy the machine. You could access it via a puzzle door on the upper level of the hub.

    • @thorveim1174
      @thorveim1174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup. and the mines are still there in the remake, its just that unlike in the original surgery machines are unbreakable

  • @krovelnautcarinae3200
    @krovelnautcarinae3200 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The final thoughts section of you talking about art not being content really resonated with me
    Thank you so much

  • @Azoth86730
    @Azoth86730 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I absolutely love the remake, kudos to Nightdive.

  • @Asas_TV
    @Asas_TV ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Personally adore the artstyle for the game. Love the "low res" high res textures on the models.

  • @happyatheists9361
    @happyatheists9361 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The ART style is perfect ❤️

  • @BrokenCurtain
    @BrokenCurtain ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The level of detail is amazing.

  • @GepardenK
    @GepardenK ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That convenient medical bed next to the respawn point in Engineering was indeed there in the original as well. Although the room was mined and if you (or an enemy) triggered any of them then the medical bed would be blown up beyond repair.
    Also, there is three Diego fights in the original. Though one is optional and only happens if you take the bait to head for the escape pods.

    • @RD-bc7js
      @RD-bc7js ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, there's a respawn AND medical bed in engineering? I already blew up the antennas and explored most of the level, where are they?

    • @GepardenK
      @GepardenK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RD-bc7js Walk down the corridor straight ahead from the starting elevator (dont turn left/right). When that corridor takes a sharp 90 degree turn to the right, look to the left instead and there should be a door there. Behind the door is a ramp that leads to the general area with the respawn/bed, it should be somewhere close to the map center.

    • @GepardenK
      @GepardenK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Rmmmike No, the escape pods are optional. Level 8 doors open when you activate the self destruct sequence (presumably because SHODAN sends an army from Security to the lower decks then)

  • @Kris451
    @Kris451 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    24:00
    That ultra healing room is in the original, but is a pain to get to and is shortly before the third antennae you destroy. Reason why so many missed it is that it's basically in the floor. Have to go down a lift that is really easy to miss to get to it. There is a text log saying that the ultra heal room was an after thought and they had to put it there. Trust me, it's there. Best part is that the surgery station has mines around the whole thing as a trap since those stations can be destroyed.
    CORRECTION: The ultra heal room is right next a switch which when flipped says "Core Locks disengaged". Can be found just a few tiles away from that switch.

    • @GlareanLiebertine
      @GlareanLiebertine ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is why you use the riot gun!... which they don't have here... :

    • @Kris451
      @Kris451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GlareanLiebertine You technically don't need to use the riot gun for the mines since you can activate the surgery station a bit away so you don't have to set off the mines or move them.

  • @Ike_of_pyke
    @Ike_of_pyke ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Solid indepth look , glad you highlighted the changes as I know a few people have mistakenly said "it's no real changes "

    • @CharlatanWonder
      @CharlatanWonder  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It really helped that I had recently replayed the original game and had it fresh in my head.

  • @trakzerak735
    @trakzerak735 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I am glad to see the positive reception from people as I was concerned about the game before release!
    Despite I've beaten the 2nd game around 5 times, I am still new to the series and have only played a small portion of the 1st one. However I got really excited for this remake! And I am glad it doesn't disappoint.

    • @ohmygahdbilly
      @ohmygahdbilly ปีที่แล้ว

      My deepest sympathies that you had to suffer through system shock 1

    • @trakzerak735
      @trakzerak735 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ohmygahdbilly I didn't really suffer.

    • @ohmygahdbilly
      @ohmygahdbilly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trakzerak735 I also didn’t not suffer through system shocks operating system lookin ass ui

    • @torinriley7569
      @torinriley7569 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@ohmygahdbilly System Shock 1 is still a pretty great game, it ain't its fault you got filtered.

    • @trakzerak735
      @trakzerak735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@torinriley7569f course it isn't. I may consider making a full playthrough.

  • @MrChainsawAardvark
    @MrChainsawAardvark ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I don't know who first said "System Shock is a first person Metroid" but I think the concept fits. You gain new abelites and can access old areas easier as time goes on. Immersive sim builds on this by giving the player more options for getting to the next sequence and potentially more routes to the same location.

    • @billyboleson2830
      @billyboleson2830 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      System Shock 1 is a cyber punk first person Metroid (before prime) while System Shock 2 is a sci fi survival horror rpg. They are practically two different genres

    • @MrChainsawAardvark
      @MrChainsawAardvark ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@billyboleson2830 I understand that. We can also talk about a shooter with RPG elements vs an RPG with shooter aspects. Super Bunnyhop and Errant Signal were some good essayists on video games, and I believe one of them is the source of my quoted observation.

    • @Psytinker
      @Psytinker ปีที่แล้ว

      MandaloreGaming said it first.

    • @MrChainsawAardvark
      @MrChainsawAardvark ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Psytinker Ok - thanks for the correction. That is another good channel to follow.

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, if you have an embarrassingly surface-level knowledge of the medium

  • @AaronWOfficial
    @AaronWOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoever doesn't enjoy this game is out of their goddamn mind. This game is STILL lightyears ahead of its time. Customising each aspect of the difficulty to define exactly what kind of playstyle you want instead of just having basic difficulty settings. Don't like puzzles? set puzzles to 1, Suck at shooting? Set combat to 1 XD. You make the game your own experience! This also adds replayability too, since u could try all the different settings see how the game changes. Still the most unique looking fps game out there, with one of the greatest gaming villains of all time. In the world we are living in now which is plagued with battle royale\extraction shooters, this was a huge breath of fresh air. There is a reason this is the most influential game of all time, it is absolutely fantastic.

  • @sumbius1576
    @sumbius1576 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Replayed Enhanced edition a while ago and pretty sure that the surgery machine (along with restoration bay and energy) was always in Engineering. It had a bunch of mines next to it so it was easy to destroy. Same with encountering Diego in Executive levels after that room with all the cyborgs

  • @cormoran2303
    @cormoran2303 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm currently enjoying it, it's awesome!
    It's particularly good to get a new PC release in 2023 that isn't a completely broken mess.

  • @phillippi2
    @phillippi2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching this around 8 months after the video came out.
    One thing that I wish to correct is: Immersive Simulations have been a thing since 1992, with the original Ultima Underworld. The term was originally coined in 1991, by Paul Neurath, in a few interviews that he did, after the game debuted that year. System Shocks design concept is a refinement of what was started in the original Underworld; they wanted to simulate the games world as much as possible.
    As far as Proto-Im-sims, there is one that I know of. That would be Space Rogue, which came out in 1987. That game is an RPG, with first-person space flight sections. The spaces flight, as well as a few other things, were simulated. Paul was impressed with how these immersed the player, and wanted to expand on those concepts as much as possible.

  • @FranzDerLilaOtter
    @FranzDerLilaOtter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A couple things to note: you fight Diego on three occasions in the original game. Once in his quarters on Executive, again next to the escape pods, and lastly before you go to the Bridge, where you finally kill him.
    As for the respawn bay in Engineering, that did exist in the original (every level save for the Bridge has a respawn bay) and the original had the same healing suite and energy station combo

  • @Elburion
    @Elburion ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A good compromise for what you said about being able to scrape working weapons is lock out any weapons that have gotten an upgrade kit attached, and lockout hard to find weapons that only have 1 or 2 in the game. I spent the first level bringing all the junk on that level into the recycler since you get more credits for not vaporizing them. And I had to do some quick scrapping later on but managed to have a few credits left over by end of game. But I could see how it would get tedious, I wish medipatch didn't run out in vending machines though. Would be a good use for those extra credits if you really needed them.

  • @PJA264
    @PJA264 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this is awesome! I'm glad it ended up being worth the wait.

  • @dante_2000
    @dante_2000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to see that you recovered after the disaster which Redfall was!

  • @Shodanpedia
    @Shodanpedia ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was better than expected, but still wish there was an original soundtrack option

  • @heysmilebomb
    @heysmilebomb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you had a fun time with this game Char! Excited about the Amnesia vid 🎉

  • @phobosanomaly5383
    @phobosanomaly5383 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To anyone else who wants to know the game works really well on steam deck and i recommended putting all graphics settings on low but put shadows and textures to high or ultra

  • @tomemaster1744
    @tomemaster1744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just discovered your channel from this video alone. I remember being that kid back when BioShock first came out on the Xbox 360 that would look up the games that "inspired" such a series then find a way to play the originals. I always found it funny how BioShock was always compared to System Shock 2 instead of System Shock 1, and actually at the time nobody really talked about System Shock 1 which always puzzled me and made it much more interesting almost like this great mystery. Anyway thanks for the review, subbed.

  • @victoriouswinner7745
    @victoriouswinner7745 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really love the games aesthetic. We’ve been getting a lot of good sci-fi-ish games this year

  • @HiddenAccount
    @HiddenAccount ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact, the laser rapier you collect on executive changes colour based on what colour theme your HUD is set to in options, enjoy!

  • @hex9318
    @hex9318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Development time is entirely dependent on game scale and the developer. People like Miziziziz on TH-cam can pump out decently high quality indie games within a matter of months while many games can take upwards of 8 years to develop without even being considered to be in "development hell". For a team I'm personally working on a game with, we made our prototype in 3 months, and are giving ourselves 6 more months to turn it into a vertical slice demo to start marketing it, before hopefully after getting some funding/hype developing it for another 6 months to a year for release.

  • @CommandantLennon
    @CommandantLennon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This would be a candidate for a great community VR mod, but It would probably be absolutely terrifying.

  • @Toad-SG7
    @Toad-SG7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nightdive knocked it out of the park. Great visual style and updated combat. Love the new grid inventory and Prey like recycling station.

  • @rando3939
    @rando3939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been playing the shit out of it. The only things I don’t like are the slightly floaty rapier combat, the shortage of funky beats, and the bridge not being all H.R Geiger like

  • @ThatTravGuy
    @ThatTravGuy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You probably got a bunch a comments about this, but the Restoration Bay, Energy Recharge, and Healing Bed on Engineering are in the original! There's just mines all around the Healing Bed and a lot of players blow it up by accident, since you can permanently destroy them if you're not careful!

  • @OlegKlishinArt
    @OlegKlishinArt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm all up for "almost immersive sims". Give me great level design, solid world building and believable array of weapons/instruments. Be it FPS or stealth. I wouldn't care if you can't stack boxes or blow up doors. I think Bioshock is the prime example of this.

    • @morkgin2459
      @morkgin2459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can stalk some boxes in bioshock 1

  • @StrengthScholar0
    @StrengthScholar0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IDK there's something about your gameplay that makes the game look so much more fun than other people's clips. I was going to wait for a sale but I actually think I may pick it up now.

  • @rexrip1080
    @rexrip1080 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got lucky because I went full clepto mode with all the little things I found on the way. By the time I got to the recycler I had a lot of cash. So that was a good idea it seems. I am currently on the floor 2 (research) after cleaning the whole first floor. Yes, I did push the button to see what would happen. Yes, I did save before doing it and then reladed the save. This game is pretty cool!

  • @mattf967
    @mattf967 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely adore the Mod-Kits because they allow you to use literally every weapon into the end game, allowing you to make loadouts that really work well together instead of just taking whatever gun is actually suited for the current enemies you're facing. By the end of the game I went into the Bridge carrying a fully modded Minipistol for sniping and clearing out fodder, a fully modded Magnum for instakill headshots against a lot of enemies, the Assault Rifle with the Full Auto mod as my 'oh shit' damage hose, the Railgun for extremely high burst damage and the Ion Rifle to conserve ammo when I was around energy recharge stations.
    I'd turned the med-room in Maintenance into my own little armoury where I laid out all the guns I had stockpiled (with mods) and sat there for a solid ten minutes as I deliberated exactly what I thought I'd need going into Security since I knew I couldn't bring them all and couldn't come back for them. A solid 5 minutes of that time was stuck contemplating whether I thought the Ion Rifle or the fully modded Mag Pulse would be more useful.
    I'm doing a second run right now where I'm trying to use weapons I didn't use as much originally and I'm having a blast with the Grenade Launcher, SMG and fully modded Sparq Beam.

  • @elysian5028
    @elysian5028 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few things: You do fight Diego three times in the original, at least on difficulty setting 3, which is what I played on the OG and the remake as well.
    Once in his secret executive area, along with the security and exec bots firstly.
    Then the Flight Deck when you're heading for the life pods.
    Then the area just before the Bridge.
    The medical/recharge area in Gamma Quadrant on the upper levels is also in the original as well, but it's difficult to get to and has a very hard puzzle keeping the door locked. Similarly to the remake in most ways though, and you can deactivate all upper level locks after unlocking the upper Gamma Quadrant.
    Oh yeah, and in the original, the surgery bed has live landmines around it, so you have to be careful when using it or if enemies spawn around it. I remember a bunch of Security-1 Bots showing up during one point and destroying everything lol.
    There were a few other inaccuracies in what you've said was in the original vs the remake, but regardless, I've enjoyed your review and really liked the review you made for the original as well. Nice work.

  • @DS-jf2be
    @DS-jf2be ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24:30 you actually fight Diego trice. The second time is on a Flight Deck when heading to escape pods.

    • @pr3historic647
      @pr3historic647 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's what I came to comment!

  • @freddykisback123
    @freddykisback123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    24:35 Actually you fight Eward Diego 3 times. As newcomer to System Shock my first reaction to entering the reactor overload code was to go to flight deck and yeeet myself via the lifeboats but Diego intercepts you there as well before he gets captured and turned into a knockoff Adam Smasher by Shodan.

  • @garyoddy1242
    @garyoddy1242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff as always, never played any of the system shocks but what I've seen I'd love to give this ago. Praying for a consol port

  • @FiliusFidelis
    @FiliusFidelis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember thinking I liked the florescent lighting a lot better in the Unity version, AND you could smash the protective glass back then, I loved that. (haven't gotten the full game yet, who know maybe you can do that again)

  • @MalleusSemperVictor
    @MalleusSemperVictor ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think this game came out at the right time. This game suffers some serious problems that are overlooked due to the fact that every other game released this year has been a dumpster fire.

  • @siamihari8717
    @siamihari8717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man. Best way to perserve ammo in the system shock enhanced and classic was just to rely upon melee and energy weapons, marking down on the map (yes you can add notes to the map in the classic and enhanced games) where the energy stations are and simply hoarding ammo and using grenades on cpus and in emergency situations. Might be low on medical suplies throughout the game doing this but you are moderatly well stocked for the later levels past the groves.

  • @aliyildirim3640
    @aliyildirim3640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The wire puzzles are in the game, they look slightly different but they show up if you have difficulty level 2 or 3 for the puzzles. Also the mag pulse gun is pretty strong if you charge your shots by pressing T first, played on combat difficulty 3 and it was my bread and butter gun for a good part of the game :D

  • @pr3historic647
    @pr3historic647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not gonna watch this till after playing. But that title bodes so well. I'm psyched

  • @TheLumpenMaoist
    @TheLumpenMaoist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the mini pistol was in System Shock OG, it was called the ML Minipistol, its named after Marc LaBlanc from Looking Glass

  • @greggreg2027
    @greggreg2027 ปีที่แล้ว

    You fight Diego 3 times. Once in his teleport office. Once at the escape pod. And right before entering the Bridge.
    My only regret is no infinite health cheat to explore the deadly posiouness grove.
    Even the enhanced addition has cheats disabled from the original game.
    Shutgun was fun. You can find it in several places by the reactor laser level. What I did not bother with was the plasma gun - I did not know if they devs decided to put an actual hidded detachment of the bridge timer this time, and did not want to backtrack.
    Magpulse indeed went unused fast. It felt like a emp mini shotgun than a turret melter in the original.
    The level design is so good, I am replaying the enhanced addition much better since I know what to expect, keep an eye out, and where to go.
    The engine is greatly setup for a System Shock 2 remake

  • @alexanderulv3886
    @alexanderulv3886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. As a console player I must say I am positively hyped! Oh and I also use Purple UI in Cyberpunk 2077, found it under colorblind settings 😂

  • @NALTOHQ
    @NALTOHQ ปีที่แล้ว

    It makes me happy to know that Charlatan enjoyed this one. That’s an informed purchase for me. Well, it’s been a while since I’ve seen a video from you Charlatan. Subbed to fix that.

  • @jess648
    @jess648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember killing a playthrough without backup saves in SS1 in the roomba hell maze

  • @TisTheWay
    @TisTheWay ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making awesome art! love how this remake looks and will have to try it out once my broken hand heals.
    til next time keep on keeping on

  • @lordfriedrick7911
    @lordfriedrick7911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Night Dive are revealing themself to be a heavy hitter on remaking and generally making games...
    This is good!

  • @velocitasfortis
    @velocitasfortis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who loved System Shock back in the day (more than SS2), I'm so happy to see people really embracing the remake. I backed it simply because I personally wanted to play System Shock again, but with some updated graphics and UX. That's what Nightdive promised during the KS campaign, so that's what I signed up for. I expected modern-day gamers to completely shun and hate the remake because it's nothing at all like modern games - it doesn't hold your hand, tell you where to go, what to do, or provide anything in the way of baked-in quest markers. Turns out I was so wrong - most people are thrilled that they aren't being treated like braindead children by some AAA corridor shooter. I haven't spent much time with the final release, but I did complete the backer beta a couple months ago, and am surprised that the respawn system was changed - if I heard you right, you don't get the Game Over animation on Normal difficulty unless you die in a boss battle? That was the behavior for "Easy" difficulty, but not for "Normal" or "Hard" and so that's a bit of a bummer - the death animation was always such a great moment when you hadn't yet found the regeneration chamber for the floor, and added some much-needed tension. Removing that from "Normal" means that you only get to experience that kind of dread and relief if you want an endless spam of respawning bullet-sponge enemies on Hard. Oh well, that's a new-player's loss.
    I'm so happy to see the love people are showing for such an anachronistic game.

    • @coolguyjki
      @coolguyjki ปีที่แล้ว

      This is incorrect. You get the game over screen if you haven't activated any restoration bays on the level, like in the original.

  • @doctoradventure413
    @doctoradventure413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought of system shock as more of a metroidvania than an imm sim.
    Also I hope they add back getting a game over if you die without a resurrection station active on your floor. I really enjoyed how tense things were until you could find the station.

    • @morkgin2459
      @morkgin2459 ปีที่แล้ว

      System Shock 2?

    • @doctoradventure413
      @doctoradventure413 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morkgin2459 what about system shock 2 I’m not talking about it?

    • @morkgin2459
      @morkgin2459 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doctoradventure413 well i meant what you think about that game? Im sim or metroidvania

    • @doctoradventure413
      @doctoradventure413 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morkgin2459 I haven’t played it yet I was waiting for the enhanced edition but I might just start it once I beat system shock. From what I’ve seen though it’s definitely an imm sim its level design isn’t nearly as maze like as the first game.

  • @daniilsilverstone9294
    @daniilsilverstone9294 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My god, you Charlatan! I wasn't ready for this early!

    • @CharlatanWonder
      @CharlatanWonder  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      a bunch of people liked a picture of Frisk so I had to do it.

  • @ladams391
    @ladams391 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was so happy to see that the game was only gonna take around 8gb on my SSD, I'm so, so very sick of games with enormous drive space requirements. I really don't even play many AAA titles, but my rough calculations are that the three or four mainstream games I have installed take up about 60% of my used drive space while the dozens and dozens of indie games I have installed take up 40%.

    • @cormoran2303
      @cormoran2303 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah nowadays 100+GB it's unfortunately very standard fare.

  • @kid-davinci6848
    @kid-davinci6848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next up Marathon Remake, pls pls somebody make this happen cuz I think we can all agree that “reimagining” Bungie is doing is GOING to kill any remnants of that piece of history

  • @Hyperclawk
    @Hyperclawk ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video once again CW, I'm glad you went full time youtuber, you're quickly becoming my favorite game reviewer (my main yt genre)

  • @Chronically_ChiII
    @Chronically_ChiII ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I managed to figure out that enemies don't respawn as annoyingly much if I set the enemy level to 1.
    I would have wanted harder enemies that don't respawn, or a mechanic that makes you stop it per floor, (like reducing the security level) but at least the game is now enjoyable for me.
    Just.... fix... the goddamn melee feedback, please!

  • @GunRunner106
    @GunRunner106 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it took em a while, but aint it nice that it worked out, for once, this time~?

  • @zachgoodrich6100
    @zachgoodrich6100 ปีที่แล้ว

    When it came to the six digit code in my playthrough of System Shock Remake I actually added an additional save on each area in the station that had a number so I wouldn't lose track because I was just too lazy to write it on paper LMAO! I also would have to look up and Google search walkthroughs online from both IGN and GameSpot to see what I needed to do for progression and all. I would also look up walkthroughs of other players of the game on TH-cam as well whenever I myself got lost. Nice video btw!

  • @tTaseric
    @tTaseric ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Immediately downloading the demo. Not sure if I can justify the full game yet but damn this game seems so good

    • @morbuskobold4233
      @morbuskobold4233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you like Scifi and rewarding exploration and no hand holding (not true if you listen). Go for it!

  • @toprem4037
    @toprem4037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The few puzzles Ive come across got me feeling like I might be brain damaged, puzzle pieces not being described didn't help either. Not being able to bind M4 and M5, despite the game knowing you pressed them because it will unbind stuff, if a real big oof. Purple HUD (best HUD) needs to be more opaque, its really hard to read stuff in it at times.
    Not gonna be able to 100% this on a first go, in part because the max difficulty gives you a ten hour time limit.
    13:55 - Honestly this doesnt need to be installed on an SSD, its loads up lickety split on a HDD. Ive not seen many modern games that can boot and load this fast
    19:00 - Game really does need a scrap all junk button, or a bindable key to scrap (and rotate) items so you dont need to RMB stuff so much.

  • @HackMcMack
    @HackMcMack ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely good analysis, i think I'm going to try out that reverse chronological playthrough ❤

  • @Ovog95
    @Ovog95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, the good ending for a story like this. I will gladly play this game soon

  • @VoidSmoker97
    @VoidSmoker97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting how both Dead Island 2 and now this finally released after so damn long, I wonder what’s up with the System Shock 2 enhanced edition they mentioned awhile back

  • @x86-Kait
    @x86-Kait 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I attempted to play the original System Shock a little less than a year before the remake came out, for the very first time. I honestly didn't have much fun with it. I don't know how to describe exactly what wasn't flowing well for me. I still have yet to play through the original. I played the remake demo at the time and had quite a lot more fun with it than the original. So I preordered. Almost a full year later the game finally launched and I had a really great time playing through the entire thing and I absolutely love the remake.

  • @HiddenAccount
    @HiddenAccount ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ammo does have a varying stack limit, on normal mode I hit the cap for 9mm, teflon. Flachette and they are 300, 300 and 60 respectively, pulse was 10, railgun was 10, assault I hit as well but I forgot lmao

    • @HiddenAccount
      @HiddenAccount ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This game is very easy for the overcautious that peek corners as the ai tends to bug and *shoot your original location instead of where you tilted*

    • @HiddenAccount
      @HiddenAccount ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another tip, *bosses are extremely weak to a berserk patch/laser rapier strat* 80% of the time, you won’t get hit once as they die in less than 5/10 seconds

    • @HiddenAccount
      @HiddenAccount ปีที่แล้ว

      Watching further in the video, I don’t believe you can hack the enemies, most likely cut content as I *thoroughly* examined every area, there are a lot of secret walls that blend in doom style, using sensaround v3 let’s you see the walls

  • @dromendus
    @dromendus ปีที่แล้ว

    i desperately wish they'd made some attempt at recreating the original game's dynamic music system. it's genuinely one of my favorite parts of the game

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apparently some meds make you hallucinate the original enemy sprites

  • @richardremillard4451
    @richardremillard4451 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for keeping this review exciting and positive. Huge fan and can’t wait to play it. 👍👍

  • @kareliask
    @kareliask ปีที่แล้ว

    Your comments on how the devs contended with the reputation of the original as a pseudo-imsim and found an elegant modernsolution are insightful, thanks.

  • @MorningAndEveningStar
    @MorningAndEveningStar ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I preordered but haven't played yet. Couldn't get into the OG's enhanced edition, but loved the remake's demo. Between Tears of the Kingdom and System Shock, 2023 is working really hard to fill the immersive-sim-shaped hole in our hearts left by Redfall.

  • @crassirus
    @crassirus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol "Weapon heavy playstyle." I spent this many days on this earth before I finally had a name for my DXHR playstyle of stealth perks paired with an inventory full of every situational weapon I could ever have.

  • @GitraSilvermane
    @GitraSilvermane ปีที่แล้ว

    About a week ago, I was worried. But with this being great and finding out my friend did a bunch of voice acting in it, I now really need to get it.

  • @thebiggeridiot
    @thebiggeridiot ปีที่แล้ว

    when it comes to whether or not this is an imsim, i think it's clear that it is, because what an imsim is simply isn't just a case of ''can i stack boxes?'' or ''is there multiple ways around this door?'' it's a not even a real genre but a design philosophy that occupies multiple genres whether they are stealth games, RPGs, adventure games or even action games. what is that design philosophy? how can we make the player believe they aren't playing a game but occupying a world. what makes an imsim is the details in the environment, how they handle interfacing with menus, is everything separated by loading screens? does this environment not only tell a story but does it make sense? it's about how the player interacts with the world, so yes box lifting plays a role in that, but so does ''can i pick up any item? if i can what can i use it for?'' so with this in mind, system shock remake absolutely is a imsim.

  • @helmaschine1885
    @helmaschine1885 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your lovely video and kitty update at the end

  • @TheAlison1456
    @TheAlison1456 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:23 real. The coolest part about upgrades or sidegrades in games are the different visuals.

  • @snickle1980
    @snickle1980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😑 You know what? I TOO...now have a "3 strikes" policy for delays.
    I'm going to add this to the "No Pre-order" policy I instituted after the _Spore Incident of 08._
    Never forgive. Never forget.
    Anyway...
    The prosecution would like to introduce exhibit _#KSP2_ and it's multiple delays as new evidence, your honor. 😐

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The OST is a + for ambiance but a - for funk.

  • @martinneumeyer9282
    @martinneumeyer9282 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The SS remake is a true masterpiece. We hope part 2 follows also as remake

  • @3546546547
    @3546546547 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:27
    This also happens on level 3 difficulty which seems like an oversight. Considering the description says this doesn't happen .