@@hrmsholland5842 Yeah like a dutch tech tree and the ships in the tech tree is these: Premium Cruiser Tier IV en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_De_Ruyter_(1935) Premium Destroyer Tier V en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Isaac_Sweers
Makes naval legends video about Soviet battleship that would have never have been completed. Still hasn’t made naval legends video on any British battleship, you know the largest navy in the world at that time. And not 1 mention of ANY German ships of any kind. Come on WOWS you’re better than this, give us some naval legends of Warspite, Hood and Bismarck.
"They were atleast designed to be the best. Their designers met their captors face to face, enduring gulag working hours but still enjoying bathroom breaks. They went down in history due to the existance of an archive. They are the ships that deserved to be called wishlist legends."
"They were designed to be the best. They met enemies face to face, endured tragedies and enjoyed victories. They went down in history due to the bravery of their crews. They are the ships that deserved to be called naval legends." >Sovetsky Soyuz
Naval Legend?... Even one on Roma and her empty carreer would be more legitimate than this. However. One can't argue that these CGI are top notch. Kudos for the work.
Almost if not all of the higher-end BBs in the game had awful or nonexistent combat performance. Even the Iowas never came close to justifying themselves.
@☀️☢️DEFINITIVO☢️☀️ You have no way of knowing if it would have been the greatest battleship of Europe. There are exactly 0 performance numbers on it. Not a single, actual, usable, truthful bit of information beyond what they thought it would do. THOUGHT it would do. You cannot tell me what it actually WOULD have done.
.......a naval legends about a non completed ship?.....why......u could do IJN kongo or Roma or something italian, heck even general belgrano of argentine navy would be nice
Our Naval Legends are many times just that, stories that impacted history! While this ship was never completed it was influential in the design of future ships.
@@WorldofWarshipsOfficialChannel This failure of a ship type by the Soviet Navy had virtually no impact whatsoever on history or the design of future battleships since the Soviets were incapable of making a structurally sound ship that could contend with other ships already in service. I understand you are a Russian company and want to have pride in your history, but fabricating what you wish this battleship would have been through the tint of rose colored glasses is just silly. There are a ton of other ships that actually existed in real life and served in combat that deserve to have their stories told over some Soviet pipe dream of actually building a single working battleship.
I know you guys are trying to build hype for the new soviet battleships, but I don’t think a Naval Legends episode on a ship that was not built is the right move. Maybe an episode covering Gangut/Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya would have been more in keeping with the series’s theme.
While it certainly wasn't finished it did have it's place in history and influence the design of future ships. We think this makes it a Legend but how would you define it?
@@WorldofWarshipsOfficialChannel I agree that it certainly was influential on Soviet naval design going forward, but it lacks the storied naval career of ships like USS New Jersey and HMCS Haida or the striking impact on the modern imagination that ships such as Bismarck and Yamato have.
@@WorldofWarshipsOfficialChannel In that case, the IJN I-400 class submarines should be at the top of the list. They were the precursors to the modern day strategic ballistic missile submarines that we rely on for our nuclear triad threat. Sovetsky Soyuz by comparison is far less of an influence on the course of naval history.
Nah, according in their History, none of them are strong, most of them are Weak, even after the Shot of the Yamato, they will suffered in severe damage
not just 1939,1789,1914 and 1930,we just need a correct history root of problem formula to make all of this existing thing in this world to be don't givin a big fxkin sh*t to this world.
@@michaeld.uchiha9084 you forgot to mention Poland attached Czechoslovakia in 1938, annexed together with Hitler some parts of it and didn't allow Soview Union to help Czech to resist nazis
@@nexotron4121 And then bullied/attacked/annexed every western/northern neighbor to avenge the Czechs who hate them to this day for various reasons. Why didn't Soviet Union defend Austria? How about crushing the Japanese to help out China (instead of backstabbing them like little bi***es in 1945)? You suffer from Sugandese.
"Naval Legend" *wasn't even built* First finish up all the in game historical ships' naval legend story then make up a story about drawings. What's next H-44? A-150?
@@battleship6049 I think the idea was that the Sovetzky Soyuz never completed and thus cannot be called a legend because she never earned a name for herself.
@@SenkanYamato39 I can understand that but saying she never existed is incorrect. She ain't no legend though. As a matter of fact she's a pretty trash ship
@@battleship6049 really, ever this ship not exist (ever is been laid down) and you say it "Trash Ship" so you going say UK, US, Germany, Japan is better ship huh? You very disrespect to ship designer and worker russia(Soviet). They work so hard for this and this is you give word to them a"Trash Ship"?! Fuck you
13:10 "The Soviet Union stood as the largest industrial power" if by largest you mean geography, but that has nothing to do with its industrial capability, of which the USSR definitely wasn't the largest.
@@nexotron4121 I would advise you to seriously consider doing some actual research into the USSR's industrial output in that time period, even just a brief glance at the output would make US industrial superiority evident. Even before going into the details of how much the US subsidized the Russian industry with materials and parts.
@@Thecdnwinter Soviet union produced much more weapons than the US. To supply that many troops on the eastern front, you needed the greatest industry in the world (which the Soviets had). I dont understand how stupid must you be to think that Americans actually produced more than the USSR while joining the war 11 months before the end. Maybe re think your comment.
@@Thecdnwinter Go ahead and tell me the amount of light arms, tanks, tank destroyers and artillery pieces the USSR produced between 1941 and 1945. Come back and comment once you have your mental breakdown.
@Sir Daylight Replying to both your comments. Joining the war 11 months before the end? Can you explain what you're talking about. "To supply that many troops on the eastern front, you needed the greatest industry in the world" isn't a statement supported by any factual basis you've presented. Finally, and most importantly, there's more to industrial output then just the obvious military arms used in land warfare (small arms, tank, artillery, etc...). Looking at specific sets of military products limited to what the USSR had to prioritize doesn't give an accurate comparison of industrial ability when comparing with the US. Who was also building a navy, merchant marine, strategic bombing force, and more. The 3 areas I specifically just mentioned, the USSR did virtually nothing in. In short comparing tanks to tanks doesn't give an accurate representation of industrial ability, just how much industrial strength was supplied to a specific product. Also there's no need to be such an ass in your reply.
"Not a single great country considered the Soviet Union an enemy they might battle on the Sea..." might sound like the West was underestimating the Soviets, but it's not like they were wrong...
Nope. All according to the common agenda. One rifle per three turrets? Check. Enforcement via repression threats? Check. Not a single piece of technology of own development? Check.
@@RampantFury925 and during the Cold War, NATO accounted for them. Just in the interwar era, the Soviets didn't have any serious naval capacities and no means of procurring anything useful anytime soon. This whole video, while admitting that the plans were a bit optimistic glances over glaring issues. For example comparing the ship with contemporaries, Yamato was left right out, because it was obviously way more powerful, and in comparing to Iowa, they first try to point out that in the theatres these ships mostly would've served in, the Baltic and Arctic Seas, visibility limited practical engagement ranges, then they go and brag how Sovietsky Soyuz outranged the Iowa. Or how we know from the Italians with their 381 mm guns that have similar range that most of that range is never going to be useful because you won't hit anything really. They also don't mention what 830 m/s meant in terms of barrel wear and how for example H-39s German twin turrets may be fewer, but had a higher RoF. Nor did they touch on how Sovietsky Soyuz seemingly needed engine power rivalled only by the Iowa-class, to propel their ship to a staggering 28 knots. Lion and Yamato got comparable speeds on vastly less engine power, Iowa actually achieves cruiser-like speeds. Thankfully ingame the ships are pretty ok, if we ignore the Pobeda...
17:35 Ok so there are some pretty massive issues with the information that you present, 1 The information presented is what is given in the design, which is usually quite optimistic - particularly for new naval powers who's designers don't have much experience, whereas the Iowa was actually built and while the Lion wasn't built it was going to be built by a power which had significant experience in naval design and therefore likely would have gotten closer to its design specs than seen here. For much the same reasons ships built by new naval powers tend to have at least some major flaws in their design 2 High velocity guns were not necessarily an advantage at this time as high velocity weapons tended to be highly inaccurate, you also completely ignored shell design (which can have a massive effect on the penetration of shells) and their effectiveness, furthermore the fire control systems of the US and UK would likely have been significantly superior to what the soviets designed as the UK and US had more experience and technical expertise. (In particularly UK shells of the period were excellent with significantly greater explosive payloads than their counterparts meaning that shells did more damage per hit) 3 While the thickness of armour on US and UK battleships would have been inferior the naval armour technology of the US and in particular UK and Germany was significantly superior to that of the USSR so the armour advantage would have been far less significant than the numbers suggest. Additionally the distributed armour scheme of the ships (while not a crippling weakness) was a flaw and would have resulted in hits which on other battleships would have over-penetrated (doing relatively minimal damage) detonating in the ship. 4 The range advantage is utterly meaningless US fire control at the end of world war 2 was massively superior to the USSR's and even then the US concluded that any engagement at distances over around 30,000 yards were utterly pointless because you wouldn't hit anything Overall even with the best possible luck the Sovetsky Soyuz would not have been anywhere near as good as this line up suggests, and it would likely have been inferior to the designs of other nations due to design flaws and inefficiencies caused by lack of experience of their designers (you can have designers who are as skilled and work as hard as you like but if they don't have experience they are going to make mistakes) Therefore it is highly misleading to present this information without any of this context as it makes a ship which would likely have been middling or poor sound fantastic
Also Warspite when? Kongo when? Nelson when? Sharnhost/Gneissinau when? Hood when? Duke of York/Prince of Wales when? Derflinger/Lutzow when? Invincible when? Dreadnought when? Graff Spee when? Roma when? And on.
If your talking about the aircraft carrier, that was sunk in 1947. One interesting topic would be an Italian battleship that somehow got into Soviet hands, only for it to be sunk after the war by a mine from the war
I'm not complaining... I am looking for naval history here, especially stuff I didn't know about rather than some extremely well known battle. So I think this is actually one of my favorite videos here, learned a lot about naval shipbuilding and what goes into putting one of these things together.
@@Real_British the Yamato (and the Iowas) is overrated due to Top10 shitty/ fake videos and gets a lot of attention from know-nothing people. Therefore, it's attractive to get new wealth players (kiddos and spoiled people) who don't know what's a Tier but sink their money at the Musashi right away and never come back after their first defeat
Insult, that's exactly the word. I'm watching a video about discovery of USS Johnston wreck and this bullshit propaganda video made me even more angry. In my opinion, Johnston and other escort ships of Taffy 3 are probably the most legendary naval legends of WWII, but why would WG Kremlobots bother.
I have to say the graphics designers and the people who do these cinematics are absolutely nuts. It's looks so real sometimes I forget that I watch a animated battleship and not a real one
Everybody: C'mon WeeGee she wasnt even finished. Me: This proves that they can and will do Naval Legends about ships that sadly do not exist as museums (aka sunk or scrapped), the possibilities.
Come on Wargaming! Why didn't you do Battleship Warspite or Duke of York? Warspite scored the longest distance hit, while Duke of York sunk Scharnhorst and participated in Operation Torch.
Warspite did what?? Scharnhorst scored a hit at a range of 24,100 m (26,400 yd) Warspite achieved one of the longest range gunnery hits from a moving ship to a moving target in history, hitting Giulio Cesare at a range of approximately 24 km (26,000 yd), your Brit trash bin was beaten by German quality by 400 yards...lol
@@Arltratlo The 26k yards for Warspite is an approximation, so you can't compare it as if it's an exact value. They're generally considered to have achieved about the same distance. Considering Warspite was a WW1 ship, bragging about a German ship 24 years younger only just managing roughly the same is pretty lame. Imagine a ~25 year old sprinter bragging that he managed to just match his beaten up, 50 year old dad in a race all due to his superior 'quality'. It makes the Dad sound impressive, not the kid.
Fun fact: most early “Soviet” designs of WW2 weren’t even Soviet. Tashkent isn’t Soviet, she’s Italian, was designed and built in Italian dockyards but ordered by the soviets, weird isn’t it?
Welcome to Soviet Battleship Building 101 Where you build your questionable TDS backwards, only surface harden armor belts to a point they probably behave more like predread composite ones, build entire sections of structure in the wrong order then have to rebuild them because the rivets were bad, and all this time you're still not sure if the guns work yet.
12:11 Yes, while a battleship barrel takes about a year to forge and complete, one must remember that Battleship guns don't get full barrel replacement when the rifling wears down. They are re-lined with a new sleeve insert when the rifling wears down. The barrels are dropped vertically into a shaft blast furnace that heats the outside while the inner sleeve has cold water running through it. When the outer jacket is red hot and expanded, the sleeve is pounded out with hydraulic hammers and a new one is forced into the barrel in the same way. When the outer barrel cools, it shrinks back down and locks onto the liner. That friction fit is so tight that rapidly firing of the gun has no chance to loosen it.
i think they mean 'naval legend' as things like the G, H class of ships, Montana, A-150, lion, UP 41 etc. those ships are Naval legends because of What ifs and how awesome they might have been amongst the fanbase of naval warships and so-forth. so in they're own way they are a legend. so if they are implementing these types of ships, maybe well even get the Churchill heavy cruiser or the cockatoo heavy cruiser (please implement this!)
Matt Faulk I don’t think you understand what I’m saying, what I’m saying is the fact that the design exist has had many people interested in these types of ships, Like Montana never existed and people whom are interested in American battleship design will always go ‘I wonder what it would have looked like in reality and not a tacky model from the 1940’s’ same goes for the sovyetsky Soyuz,
wait, are you putting the HMS Vanguard in the same category as a ship that was not completed? really, the HMS Vanguard? the last battleship built and launched in the world
Wargaming keeps feeding us with so much Soviet Propaganda and Russian Bias that I'm starting to think McCarthyism wasn't such a bad idea. Keep it up WG, you are alienating you entire fanbase with this, of course except your beloved Russian players. A laid out scrap of metal pushed as NAVAL LEGEND; pfft, okay.
“Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart,” Russian President Vladimir Putin famously said in 2010. But he quickly added, “Whoever wants it back has no brain.”
@@captainnutt2995 So passionate against McCarthy that you didn't know his name ends with y. Makes me wonder if you know anything about the red scare at all. lol
Please, next an episode about the Enterprise... ... I mean, maybe you can do 7 about THEM: NXX-01, NCC-1701, NCC-1701 A, NCC-1701 B, NCC-1701 C, NCC-1701 D and NCC-1701 E. As finctional are them like the Sovetsky Soyuz, those "Enterprise" have a longer history.
"Soyuz powered up to flank speed, and promptly stripped her turbines faster then a French Destroyer. After reaching a fire control solution against the German Pre-Dreadnought, she fired her guns, the liners flying out of the barrels along with the shells in a spread so wide even Richelieu could fit a salvo inside it. Finally, the first 283mm shell of the S-H's return fire impacted the armor belt, which promptly fell off. The impact caused all of the ships faulty rivets to pop out, and she promptly fell apart under her own weight and sank."
How the hell is a Battleship that never left the drawing board because the ruskys couldn't figure out how to efficiently mount the amour on the damn ship a naval legend???? Naval legend implies that the ship actually did something. The only thing notable done by anything related to this ship was that the guns were used as field artillery.
Okay you have to admit it. Even tho their balance- and Marketing department strategies are somewhat screwed up and this "Naval Legend" ship only really existed to like 22% with no battle history, and now I say it again; their media/video/design department are god like with their CGI and stuff (like the video "wait for me"). Because of the work of these dedicated men and women, I still somehow support this game, cuz these people give us such incredible content. Good job to the guys who do all this stuff. Please keep going to make such incredible videos for us!
Amazing work by the video team, maybe soon we can see more Naval legends about ships that are not afloat like the Enterprise or of the many IJN carriers.
This failure of a ship type by the Soviet Navy had virtually no impact whatsoever on history or the design of future battleships since the Soviets were incapable of making a structurally sound ship that could contend with other ships already in service. I understand you are a Russian company and want to have pride in your history, but fabricating what you wish this battleship would have been through the tint of rose colored glasses is just silly. There are a ton of other ships that were actually built in real life and served in combat that deserve to have their stories told over some Soviet pipe dream of actually completing a single working battleship.
There is also the fact that even if this ship had been built, she would have joined the German/British/Japanese/American/French/Italian WWII battleships in being utterly pointless and a waste of money.
It created big impact on Soviet Union. There was no such ships in USSR before, because you know, USSR didn't have colonies that she needed to protect. However, It caused big impact on industry. I understand that maybe you want all videos about US Navy, but man, there are other countries that also wanted to build something like that. Not to mention that USSR had bad industry as heritage from Tsarist Russian Empire. You must understand feelings of people different countries too and their history. It was a big advance for a whole country. In order to build something like that, you must, for example, build big crane and etc., basically create new industrial sector from zero. In just 10-15 years. In country that has a lot more problems to fix. But still, they started to create them (its guns, for example are real and stationed in russian weapon test field). Yet again, its a legend machine, USSR superweapon like german Tirpitz or Bismarck. Of course, its never saw combat thanks to german Invasion. But i can't say that her german "counterparts" have big naval history too thanks to carriers and submarines. For example, Tirpiz was at her port in Norway almost all time and did almost nothing.
@Ivan Karaschuk oh well, at least Stalin has his priorities set right in this instance lol...Nazi land advance finished this already outdated pipe dream battleship plans and made soviets pump all of their resources into rugged reliable actual war winning tanks...
While i usually enjoy your videos, i must share the sentiment of others. The video should not have the Naval Legends moniker. Making the video is fine, but call it something else, like Behind the Scenes (or Plans). Let the legends stay with those who served and lost their lives in battles and sorties.
None knew what was going on in the Soviet navy in the west? The Kirov Class Cruisers were designed by Ansaldo. The Tashkent was built in Italy. The Soviets PURCHASED the project of the UP41 battleship, and the Sovetsky Soyuz class being a scaled up Littorio Class is quite evident.
The Sovetsky Soyuz deserves it's title as a naval legend for it was the most powerful battleship ever laid to be designed by the Russian navy at that time and the impact it made on the industrial capabilities for this time period. Just because it was not even built does not mean its concept wasn't used they clearly said the gun during the siege of Leningrad was utilized as an artillery battery that destroyed many German bunkers and ammunition supplies
16 battleships of a single class would probably have also made it the most numerous class of battleship ever built. Most other navies seemed to have just 2-4 of each class before technologies overtook the existing class.
Please ad eved sunken warships like enterprise,tirpitz,ark royal,implacable,bismark,nelson,prince eugen,arkansas,pensacola,northtampton, and others and also submarines. Thank you
To everyone who dislike this you have been accused of anti soviet behavior and will be given a metal and the iawos would still have curb stamped this thing
I think even had the Soviets managed to complete there battleships I still dont think there was any dispute that american fast battle ships qualified the best balance between protection, firepower, and endurance. And the one quality often overlooked was the American radar fire control system allowing engagements beyond line of sight!
Naval legends or paper legends? Also the torpedo bulge of this ship was stolen from the littorio class bb of italy What if... What if... Come on. Nice game of corse, Love russia, dasha, and vodka
@@OTOMAGIC Who complains? Im not talking about the game. About the video, naval legends are legends you know? Real ships. Did you read above? Go find your brain...
Haru? Haru! You are probably the biggest dumbass I have ever encountered in these comments like ever, and WoWs has some pretty dumb people that comment on their videos and play the games
WOW! It is hard for me to believe the push back your getting for this content! This has been great and I loved the episode. Keep up all the great work!
I heard the Japanese were developing a Wave Motion gun for their Yamato-class battleships that only got canceled with they were defeated by the Americans. Perhaps WG could add that to the game.
It almost sounds like these ships were actually built and saw service, I just came back from a robotics competition, you have no idea how many robots were great on paper but did not work or could even be built, you can imagine how well those paper robots did
I love these videos but I would advise making a Naval legends video on ships are are actually naval legends... or at least built. I actually don’t mind videos on ships that where at least started but I would like to see ships like Bismarck and Roma take priority
Ideas for Naval Legends King George V, Duke of York or Prince of Wales ,Warspite, Vanguard, Bismarck, Nagato, Kongo, Prinz Eugen, Graf Spee, Enterprise Missouri, Wisconsin, Roma, Sydney etc. WG: did you say paper ship?
King Battleship Three of the Four built Iowa’s got one (never knew why they skipped Wisco) but still it hurts because she’s considered quite a safe ship in multiple wars
Personal message to "World of Warships Official Channel": Keep Up The Good Work! What I really admire about World of Warships Naval Legends is their attention to detail. Especially the close up views of all classes of naval vessels. I'm very impressed by it! Right now, I don't have a PC Desktop as of yet, but hopefully in the future that will change.
This series is awesome! Sad they never built this thing but then same with the Montana. Technology was moving so fast that by the end of the war, battleships were no longer needed.
My say about this is that even though these ships weren't even built before and during ww2, we can get to know these ships and their designs as well as their intentions of why the Soviet government would build such ships of the design, and there are other ships that were supposedly designed to reinforce the navy as an attack or defensive ship. Even though it wasn't complete in time, these designs show what these ships are supposedly for, remember they thought that the war could go longer.
During the same time period the Soviet bb.s were planned and laid down in the USA 10 US bb.s were planned, laid down and launched. The North Carolina class 2 ships North Carolina and Washington. Tthe South Dakota class 4 ships South Dakota, Massachusetts, Alabama and Indiana. The Iowa class Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri and Wisconsin. If you claim that the Soviet union was the worlds biggest industrial power that is a staement that does not quite correspond with real facts. In the same time US undustry armed all the western allies with tanks, airplanes, halftracks, trucks etc and in the same time built the fast carrier task forces: four carriers, six to eight support vessels and not less than 18 destroyers, preferably 24. And at the same time the US industry could supply the homefront with various consumer goods, something the Soviet industry never could.
@@trident6547 Generally, the SU had to rebuild every possible production from scratch after the revolution in 1917 (financed by Germans). Speed of industrialization was unique - practically no other country in history was able to repeat such performance. I know, it doesn't match with common western narrative, but try to get over it - speak to scientists or people who used to live in the USSR. And regarding your listing of carriers and destroyers: the Soviet Union understood itself a continental country. Compare T-34 and M3 Lee tank designs. Any other questions?
@@nexotron4121 No you don't compare M3 Lee/M4 with a T-34. Just like you don't Rambo into Germany when you cripple their entire industry with bombings. "Speak to scientists?" Well, if that's your only way to hear about "science" ... T-34 is good on paper only (but you must be a short Chang so you might fit into one). It was good for Russia and Soviet strategy. M4 had one of the highest crew survival rates after getting hit and no magic helped T-34s against an 88mm. So no, no questions for mediocre answers.
@@solomonarbc "No you don't compare M3 Lee/M4 with a T-34." --> And we both know why ;) "Speak to scientists?" Well, if that's your only way to hear about "science" ... --> bla-bla-bla "T-34 is good on paper only (but you must be a short Chang so you might fit into one)." --> Well, germans experiences this in different way: www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter-weltkrieg/article156844134/Der-T-34-Panzer-traf-die-Wehrmacht-wie-ein-Monster.html you may be surprised, but discovery channel sees this in the same way - th-cam.com/video/fVg6gFmuRlE/w-d-xo.html So, dude, don't consider this offending, but you may want to reconsider what you learned about the Soviet Union or Russia at school. I do live in the West, but there is so much rubbish info about the country and history related to it. As Winston Churchill said: "History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it."
@@nexotron4121 yeah, you were continental. Guess who lend-leased you 92% of your "continental" railroad equipment and 57% of your total equipment, equating to 11 billion dollars? While simultaneously building said battleships?
the coolest part of this video was the cgi of the battleship into real life. legit thought it was real for a second, then realised the sovetsky soyuz isnt.
um... How is a concept that was never built a "Naval Legend"? Are we going to be doing "naval legend" videos about the USS Montana or the G-series battleships now, too?
"could have been" "should have been" "what if..." come on WG, just own up to the fact that the Soviet navy up to the end of WW2 was a 3rd rate power. Why not make a video about a real ship from a real navy like the HMS Dreadnought?? You know that ship that started a naval arms race.....
Key word: High seas. Sovetsky soyuz sits high in the water so it won't get crushed by a wave, but apparently this design did not carry over at all to the kremlin, which basically sits at waterline. and you say this thing influenced later designs?
i really enjoy this series but this? a ship that was never completed? im gonna pass this one WG. its a shame you can do naval legends on paper boats but not on real warships especially the Japanese ones. there are the 4 kongo class, Nagato (served as flagship until Yamato), Akagi, Shokaku, Zuikaku and many more.
Unfortunately, the IJN was very successful at destroying documents at the end of the war. If the ship wasn't captured or exceptionally well documented in wartime intelligence, it is pretty much lost to history.
The classes main flaw as related to armor was the simple fact that the USSR could not make thick enough armor plates so it might be collectively thicker than Iowa's armor but it is less effective.
I swear you are beter of to just remove these ''soviet ships'' from the game 90% of them didnt even exist plus your history preformance in Naval Warfare is laughable, the only real purpose these things have is catering to your own Russian audience. Honestly getting kind of fed up with this soviet ''what if'' nonsense when you talk about Naval Warfare in ww2 the Soviet navy is the last thing anyone mentions.
They are turning World of Warships into Red Alert. Communist symbols everywhere. This is going even deeper than inserting 1950-60 ships into WWI-II game - making Soviet BB so much stronger than really existing (and in reality much more advanced) ships is just both sad and pathetic. It makes sense only if you understand the word "legend" as "fairy tale"... :(
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@@hrmsholland5842 Yeah like a dutch tech tree and the ships in the tech tree is these:
Premium Cruiser Tier IV
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_De_Ruyter_(1935)
Premium Destroyer Tier V
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Isaac_Sweers
Almost wanted to say that it looks so real
Makes naval legends video about Soviet battleship that would have never have been completed. Still hasn’t made naval legends video on any British battleship, you know the largest navy in the world at that time. And not 1 mention of ANY German ships of any kind. Come on WOWS you’re better than this, give us some naval legends of Warspite, Hood and Bismarck.
I'd rather watch this than the history channel. Love all the historical videos.
"They were atleast designed to be the best. Their designers met their captors face to face, enduring gulag working hours but still enjoying bathroom breaks. They went down in history due to the existance of an archive. They are the ships that deserved to be called wishlist legends."
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"They were designed to be the best. They met enemies face to face, endured tragedies and enjoyed victories. They went down in history due to the bravery of their crews. They are the ships that deserved to be called naval legends."
>Sovetsky Soyuz
Shawn Wang truth
I get that they want to laud the new ship line but this just cheapens the series by having many honored vessels and then throwing in a paper design.
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It's sadly kind of missing the respect for the real ships and their crews :(
That memories bring me those episodes
As much as the CGI is great,you don’t really call a ship that wasn’t really built a “Naval Legend”
But as I said the CGI was great
By "Legend", they mean "Myth". Good-lookin' ship tho
I agree. I didnt even know of it until I saw it in a mobile game.
How about tanks that were never built?
i really thought it was a real ship. wow
Now they have no Excuse for not doing Bismarck, Roma, Hood etc. If a Non-existent Ship can get an Episode, a sunken one can get one aswell.
This could had be a good Armada video instead of Naval Legends
@@ikethefrontliner5899 What do you mean No
☀️☢️DEFINITIVO☢️☀️ that is mean saying stuipid
But I kinda agree this is a perfect video
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Naval Legend?...
Even one on Roma and her empty carreer would be more legitimate than this.
However. One can't argue that these CGI are top notch. Kudos for the work.
actually, I understood how they did it. They just paste the Soyuz from the game engine to a real life landscape.
Yamatoseb Narr f you this is good I don't want that
Almost if not all of the higher-end BBs in the game had awful or nonexistent combat performance. Even the Iowas never came close to justifying themselves.
They could animate the battle where the captured Vittorio Venetto class ships were sunk by German aviation while being escorted by british ships.
@☀️☢️DEFINITIVO☢️☀️ You have no way of knowing if it would have been the greatest battleship of Europe. There are exactly 0 performance numbers on it. Not a single, actual, usable, truthful bit of information beyond what they thought it would do. THOUGHT it would do. You cannot tell me what it actually WOULD have done.
.......a naval legends about a non completed ship?.....why......u could do IJN kongo or Roma or something italian, heck even general belgrano of argentine navy would be nice
Belgrano was a Cleveland class, iirc.
because its victory day and they are a Russian company? Why do we need to be butthurt about something provided to you for i dunno Free?
Our Naval Legends are many times just that, stories that impacted history! While this ship was never completed it was influential in the design of future ships.
translation: Putin said we had to
@@WorldofWarshipsOfficialChannel This failure of a ship type by the Soviet Navy had virtually no impact whatsoever on history or the design of future battleships since the Soviets were incapable of making a structurally sound ship that could contend with other ships already in service. I understand you are a Russian company and want to have pride in your history, but fabricating what you wish this battleship would have been through the tint of rose colored glasses is just silly. There are a ton of other ships that actually existed in real life and served in combat that deserve to have their stories told over some Soviet pipe dream of actually building a single working battleship.
"Naval Legend". SO how many battles did it take part in? Or even better how many shots did it fire?
Well.... 0
@@mahiro-san6862 Well, Its the only battleships that has never missed a shot then :D
@@bolastube yep for sure :)
As many as Super Conqueror and T54E1.
dude its sowjet stalinum, it still fights today :D
I know you guys are trying to build hype for the new soviet battleships, but I don’t think a Naval Legends episode on a ship that was not built is the right move. Maybe an episode covering Gangut/Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya would have been more in keeping with the series’s theme.
I mean it did exist, sort of, unfinished but did exist, but I totally agree with Gangut/ Okt Rev cuz it actually fought battles
While it certainly wasn't finished it did have it's place in history and influence the design of future ships. We think this makes it a Legend but how would you define it?
@@WorldofWarshipsOfficialChannel I agree that it certainly was influential on Soviet naval design going forward, but it lacks the storied naval career of ships like USS New Jersey and HMCS Haida or the striking impact on the modern imagination that ships such as Bismarck and Yamato have.
@@WorldofWarshipsOfficialChannel In that case, the IJN I-400 class submarines should be at the top of the list. They were the precursors to the modern day strategic ballistic missile submarines that we rely on for our nuclear triad threat. Sovetsky Soyuz by comparison is far less of an influence on the course of naval history.
They need to do Gangut Nikolai and okt
Hood?
Bismarck?
Roma?
Tirpitz?
Missouri?
Enterprise?
NOT THIS PAPER SHIP THAT WASN'T EVEN FINISHED
You tell em Washington! Hell you need to be a T7 Premium! What do you think?
How about
Kongo
Nagato
Fuso
Graff Spee
Derflinger (even though we don't have this ship in game)
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
*W A R S P I T E*
Guys stop playing this is good if you want the other ship OK ask for it but don't say that it bad this... This is masterpiece
@@ikethefrontliner5899 >this is masterpiece
Masterpiece on paper that do not deserve status of "Naval legend"
That is still why it call "Legend" 😀
If Soyuz was built it probably would've gotten out memed by aircraft and sunk when the war started.
yeah, scrapping it was a good choice.
That kind of right To be honest..... Still it looks. good
Nah, according in their History, none of them are strong, most of them are Weak, even after the Shot of the Yamato, they will suffered in severe damage
Hey atleast it's design was supposed to rival the Bismarck Class, Littorio and the Richelieus too. Any ships that had used 15-inch guns.
@@HansHeisenberg any ship would suffer severe damage by Yamato's guns.
16:00 "let's assume that nothing tragic happened in 1941 " could we just assume it didn't happens in 1939 too?
not just 1939,1789,1914 and 1930,we just need a correct history root of problem formula to make all of this existing thing in this world to be don't givin a big fxkin sh*t to this world.
Or 1945?
He forgot that the russian attacked Polen 1939 too. Yeah yeah the viktor makes history.
@@michaeld.uchiha9084 you forgot to mention Poland attached Czechoslovakia in 1938, annexed together with Hitler some parts of it and didn't allow Soview Union to help Czech to resist nazis
@@nexotron4121
And then bullied/attacked/annexed every western/northern neighbor to avenge the Czechs who hate them to this day for various reasons. Why didn't Soviet Union defend Austria? How about crushing the Japanese to help out China (instead of backstabbing them like little bi***es in 1945)?
You suffer from Sugandese.
Can you do an episode on the Battlestar Gallactica? She was an awesome ship and very historical. Lol
That is a very good one!
At least BG had a decorated service history
And it has actual history to it, instead of this incomplete joke.
With the Admiral Adama as its commander
why not the space battleship yamato, it was a battleship, at least it had battleship in the name!
Wargaming logic : its russian, its legendary.
Hey maybe one day they will stop with the russian baias who knows miricales happen
@@hunterbg7531 yeah if putin's going to be president for the next 50 years I don't think russians are going to get less nationalistic
@@leonox7313 scared?
@@zenkanb3703 explain
@@zenkanb3703 scared to explain boy?
Finally a naval legend about the ship that never been built and also nolonger remian today good work!!!! Soviet battleship!!!
i can say the same about brits
Frontovik *HMS Belfast*
"Naval Legend"
*wasn't even built*
First finish up all the in game historical ships' naval legend story then make up a story about drawings. What's next H-44? A-150?
nah next is the Tillman Battleship
And now A-150 is coming to the game. smh smh
Daniel Star Tillman maximum when
Damp potato #36 Yashima is on the public servers now. Not purchasable, only the testers get to use it. So I’m assuming update 9.3 or 9.4
This comment didnt age well.
Oh, the ship is a legend all right.
In that it never exited.
Technically Sovetsky Soyuz was like 20% complete while Sovietskaya Belarussia and Sovietskaya Rossia werent even 10% complete
@@igoryst3049 actually Sowietskaja Ukraina was in 75% ready for launching
It existed more than Montana or FDG.
You should probably do a Naval Legends episode on the Death Star from Star Wars, it was built like your Soyuz.
Hundreds of ships battled in ww2
> make naval legends about a ship that didn't even exist
this is insulting.
She did exist though? What are you saying? I think you mean she was incomplete but she was a very much real ship
@@battleship6049 I think the idea was that the Sovetzky Soyuz never completed and thus cannot be called a legend because she never earned a name for herself.
@@SenkanYamato39 I can understand that but saying she never existed is incorrect. She ain't no legend though. As a matter of fact she's a pretty trash ship
@@battleship6049 well I didn't say she didn't exist. She clearly did as a design and was partially built.
@@battleship6049 really, ever this ship not exist (ever is been laid down) and you say it "Trash Ship" so you going say UK, US, Germany, Japan is better ship huh? You very disrespect to ship designer and worker russia(Soviet).
They work so hard for this and this is you give word to them a"Trash Ship"?! Fuck you
13:10 "The Soviet Union stood as the largest industrial power" if by largest you mean geography, but that has nothing to do with its industrial capability, of which the USSR definitely wasn't the largest.
Sorry to disturb you in your belief, it was
@@nexotron4121 I would advise you to seriously consider doing some actual research into the USSR's industrial output in that time period, even just a brief glance at the output would make US industrial superiority evident. Even before going into the details of how much the US subsidized the Russian industry with materials and parts.
@@Thecdnwinter Soviet union produced much more weapons than the US. To supply that many troops on the eastern front, you needed the greatest industry in the world (which the Soviets had). I dont understand how stupid must you be to think that Americans actually produced more than the USSR while joining the war 11 months before the end. Maybe re think your comment.
@@Thecdnwinter Go ahead and tell me the amount of light arms, tanks, tank destroyers and artillery pieces the USSR produced between 1941 and 1945. Come back and comment once you have your mental breakdown.
@Sir Daylight Replying to both your comments. Joining the war 11 months before the end? Can you explain what you're talking about. "To supply that many troops on the eastern front, you needed the greatest industry in the world" isn't a statement supported by any factual basis you've presented. Finally, and most importantly, there's more to industrial output then just the obvious military arms used in land warfare (small arms, tank, artillery, etc...). Looking at specific sets of military products limited to what the USSR had to prioritize doesn't give an accurate comparison of industrial ability when comparing with the US. Who was also building a navy, merchant marine, strategic bombing force, and more. The 3 areas I specifically just mentioned, the USSR did virtually nothing in. In short comparing tanks to tanks doesn't give an accurate representation of industrial ability, just how much industrial strength was supplied to a specific product. Also there's no need to be such an ass in your reply.
naval legend about a ship that was never even completed? lulz
I guess now we know that the word legend in Naval Legend actually meant more like zeus legend instead of actual legend
yeah should've put Vietnam battleship instead
@@zaiKongsi errr sorry wut?
@@shiothesaltch.4327 uh yeah Vietnam lol
@@zaiKongsi lol you know vietnamese?
"Not a single great country considered the Soviet Union an enemy they might battle on the Sea..." might sound like the West was underestimating the Soviets, but it's not like they were wrong...
True
In the Cold War they damn sure were.
Nope. All according to the common agenda.
One rifle per three turrets? Check.
Enforcement via repression threats? Check.
Not a single piece of technology of own development? Check.
@@RampantFury925 and during the Cold War, NATO accounted for them. Just in the interwar era, the Soviets didn't have any serious naval capacities and no means of procurring anything useful anytime soon. This whole video, while admitting that the plans were a bit optimistic glances over glaring issues. For example comparing the ship with contemporaries, Yamato was left right out, because it was obviously way more powerful, and in comparing to Iowa, they first try to point out that in the theatres these ships mostly would've served in, the Baltic and Arctic Seas, visibility limited practical engagement ranges, then they go and brag how Sovietsky Soyuz outranged the Iowa. Or how we know from the Italians with their 381 mm guns that have similar range that most of that range is never going to be useful because you won't hit anything really. They also don't mention what 830 m/s meant in terms of barrel wear and how for example H-39s German twin turrets may be fewer, but had a higher RoF. Nor did they touch on how Sovietsky Soyuz seemingly needed engine power rivalled only by the Iowa-class, to propel their ship to a staggering 28 knots. Lion and Yamato got comparable speeds on vastly less engine power, Iowa actually achieves cruiser-like speeds. Thankfully ingame the ships are pretty ok, if we ignore the Pobeda...
@@TheKnownPlayer Correction, ONE such gun barrel per ENTIRE SSSR.
17:35 Ok so there are some pretty massive issues with the information that you present,
1
The information presented is what is given in the design, which is usually quite optimistic - particularly for new naval powers who's designers don't have much experience, whereas the Iowa was actually built and while the Lion wasn't built it was going to be built by a power which had significant experience in naval design and therefore likely would have gotten closer to its design specs than seen here. For much the same reasons ships built by new naval powers tend to have at least some major flaws in their design
2
High velocity guns were not necessarily an advantage at this time as high velocity weapons tended to be highly inaccurate, you also completely ignored shell design (which can have a massive effect on the penetration of shells) and their effectiveness, furthermore the fire control systems of the US and UK would likely have been significantly superior to what the soviets designed as the UK and US had more experience and technical expertise. (In particularly UK shells of the period were excellent with significantly greater explosive payloads than their counterparts meaning that shells did more damage per hit)
3
While the thickness of armour on US and UK battleships would have been inferior the naval armour technology of the US and in particular UK and Germany was significantly superior to that of the USSR so the armour advantage would have been far less significant than the numbers suggest.
Additionally the distributed armour scheme of the ships (while not a crippling weakness) was a flaw and would have resulted in hits which on other battleships would have over-penetrated (doing relatively minimal damage) detonating in the ship.
4
The range advantage is utterly meaningless US fire control at the end of world war 2 was massively superior to the USSR's and even then the US concluded that any engagement at distances over around 30,000 yards were utterly pointless because you wouldn't hit anything
Overall even with the best possible luck the Sovetsky Soyuz would not have been anywhere near as good as this line up suggests, and it would likely have been inferior to the designs of other nations due to design flaws and inefficiencies caused by lack of experience of their designers (you can have designers who are as skilled and work as hard as you like but if they don't have experience they are going to make mistakes)
Therefore it is highly misleading to present this information without any of this context as it makes a ship which would likely have been middling or poor sound fantastic
I bet the North Carolina could beat the Sovetsky Soyuz despite it being 2 BB generations earlier.
well done , sir.
Bismarck when?
Nagato when?
Also
Warspite when?
Kongo when?
Nelson when?
Sharnhost/Gneissinau when?
Hood when?
Duke of York/Prince of Wales when?
Derflinger/Lutzow when?
Invincible when?
Dreadnought when?
Graff Spee when?
Roma when?
And on.
@@yakumoyukari4405 get Roma and all that out of here where is enterprise the legendary carrier
@@ikethefrontliner5899 f carriers :D
@@yakumoyukari4405 Battleships have been obsolete for 80 years.
@@clashman7564 thanks cap I know.
Suggestion on the next Naval Legend: Graf Zeppelin. Never completed and used as a ducking apartment complex by the soviets after the war. Legendary.
If your talking about the aircraft carrier, that was sunk in 1947. One interesting topic would be an Italian battleship that somehow got into Soviet hands, only for it to be sunk after the war by a mine from the war
phenomenal CGI work WG, had me looking twice lol, well done
I'm not complaining... I am looking for naval history here, especially stuff I didn't know about rather than some extremely well known battle. So I think this is actually one of my favorite videos here, learned a lot about naval shipbuilding and what goes into putting one of these things together.
Almost none of what was said here was factual outside the Plan No. for it's construction.
@@TornadoADV Prove it
The first time ever i have to give a dislike on a naval legend. This is such an insult to real legendary ships that actually existed out there.
Or which already sunk,like they make the Naval Legends:yamato
Same here
It's a legend, nothing but. Like the legend of the Sword of Damocles.
@@Real_British the Yamato (and the Iowas) is overrated due to Top10 shitty/ fake videos and gets a lot of attention from know-nothing people. Therefore, it's attractive to get new wealth players (kiddos and spoiled people) who don't know what's a Tier but sink their money at the Musashi right away and never come back after their first defeat
Insult, that's exactly the word. I'm watching a video about discovery of USS Johnston wreck and this bullshit propaganda video made me even more angry. In my opinion, Johnston and other escort ships of Taffy 3 are probably the most legendary naval legends of WWII, but why would WG Kremlobots bother.
I have to say the graphics designers and the people who do these cinematics are absolutely nuts. It's looks so real sometimes I forget that I watch a animated battleship and not a real one
How could that be a naval legend, it wasent even build.
When you’re trying to sell it you make up all sorts of crap
But atleast is been Laid down
หน่วยตอบโต้คน ที่เกลียดรัสเซีย but there is so many ships there are naval legents, so they could start with them first
@@captainnutt2995
Yeah you can lay down your own battleship: dig a 270 meter hole and start welding scrap metal ...
Everybody: C'mon WeeGee she wasnt even finished.
Me: This proves that they can and will do Naval Legends about ships that sadly do not exist as museums (aka sunk or scrapped), the possibilities.
Come on Wargaming! Why didn't you do Battleship Warspite or Duke of York?
Warspite scored the longest distance hit, while Duke of York sunk Scharnhorst and participated in Operation Torch.
Warspite did what??
Scharnhorst scored a hit at a range of 24,100 m (26,400 yd)
Warspite achieved one of the longest range gunnery hits from a moving ship to a moving target in history, hitting Giulio Cesare at a range of approximately 24 km (26,000 yd),
your Brit trash bin was beaten by German quality by 400 yards...lol
@@Arltratlo The 26k yards for Warspite is an approximation, so you can't compare it as if it's an exact value. They're generally considered to have achieved about the same distance.
Considering Warspite was a WW1 ship, bragging about a German ship 24 years younger only just managing roughly the same is pretty lame. Imagine a ~25 year old sprinter bragging that he managed to just match his beaten up, 50 year old dad in a race all due to his superior 'quality'. It makes the Dad sound impressive, not the kid.
@@riyoriyote the longest yet the most useless hit (not even confirmed)
@@riyoriyote Warspite had guns 4 inches bigger in diameter, and warspite didnt even sink what she was shooting at.
@@riyoriyote You make it sound like Warspite didn't go through any refits whatsoever since WW1. You know how ships work right?
Fun fact: most early “Soviet” designs of WW2 weren’t even Soviet.
Tashkent isn’t Soviet, she’s Italian, was designed and built in Italian dockyards but ordered by the soviets, weird isn’t it?
Naval legend of what? Fighting in the Stalin's wet dreams? How funny WG, how funny...
Big moustaches wet dream now becoming true on WOWS.
Send this guy to gulag
@@SovietUnion100 No need to react to propaganda stamps
Agano to gulag plz f off
@@SovietUnion100 What makes you think the comment is made by American? Idiot
Welcome to Soviet Battleship Building 101
Where you build your questionable TDS backwards, only surface harden armor belts to a point they probably behave more like predread composite ones, build entire sections of structure in the wrong order then have to rebuild them because the rivets were bad, and all this time you're still not sure if the guns work yet.
USSR: Lets build big fleet
Also USSR: Lets kill all engineers, mechanicians and every one else Who has a clue how to build ship.
12:11 Yes, while a battleship barrel takes about a year to forge and complete, one must remember that Battleship guns don't get full barrel replacement when the rifling wears down. They are re-lined with a new sleeve insert when the rifling wears down. The barrels are dropped vertically into a shaft blast furnace that heats the outside while the inner sleeve has cold water running through it. When the outer jacket is red hot and expanded, the sleeve is pounded out with hydraulic hammers and a new one is forced into the barrel in the same way. When the outer barrel cools, it shrinks back down and locks onto the liner. That friction fit is so tight that rapidly firing of the gun has no chance to loosen it.
i think they mean 'naval legend' as things like the G, H class of ships, Montana, A-150, lion, UP 41 etc. those ships are Naval legends because of What ifs and how awesome they might have been amongst the fanbase of naval warships and so-forth. so in they're own way they are a legend.
so if they are implementing these types of ships, maybe well even get the Churchill heavy cruiser or the cockatoo heavy cruiser (please implement this!)
Matt Faulk I don’t think you understand what I’m saying, what I’m saying is the fact that the design exist has had many people interested in these types of ships,
Like Montana never existed and people whom are interested in American battleship design will always go ‘I wonder what it would have looked like in reality and not a tacky model from the 1940’s’ same goes for the sovyetsky Soyuz,
Even worse than a hypothetical episode of Naval Legend: Vanguard.
Naval Legend: a ship that wasn't even completed.
wait, are you putting the HMS Vanguard in the same category as a ship that was not completed?
really, the HMS Vanguard? the last battleship built and launched in the world
How are you even comparing the two?
@@armandorodrigues144 I guess, because Vanguard never saw action?
Armando Rodrigues
Vanguard was obsolete when laid down (because battleships in general were obsolete at that point) and did absolutely nothing.
Wargaming keeps feeding us with so much Soviet Propaganda and Russian Bias that I'm starting to think McCarthyism wasn't such a bad idea.
Keep it up WG, you are alienating you entire fanbase with this, of course except your beloved Russian players.
A laid out scrap of metal pushed as NAVAL LEGEND; pfft, okay.
Pedro Casas All the Russians do. It's their recently gone empire. Although the Romanovs would be a better choice
“Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart,” Russian President Vladimir Putin famously said in 2010. But he quickly added, “Whoever wants it back has no brain.”
@@captainnutt2995 So passionate against McCarthy that you didn't know his name ends with y. Makes me wonder if you know anything about the red scare at all. lol
@@SovietUnion100 Says the indoctrinated from birth , for generations, soviet puppet citizen. Soviet Russia, no propaganda here. No police state here.
@@j.chiari4222 actually, the Romanov dynasty treated the peasants worse than the Soviets (except for Stalin)
If anyone wants to know, the music is Ninurta, by Audiomachine.
Please, next an episode about the Enterprise...
... I mean, maybe you can do 7 about THEM: NXX-01, NCC-1701, NCC-1701 A, NCC-1701 B, NCC-1701 C, NCC-1701 D and NCC-1701 E.
As finctional are them like the Sovetsky Soyuz, those "Enterprise" have a longer history.
"Soyuz powered up to flank speed, and promptly stripped her turbines faster then a French Destroyer. After reaching a fire control solution against the German Pre-Dreadnought, she fired her guns, the liners flying out of the barrels along with the shells in a spread so wide even Richelieu could fit a salvo inside it. Finally, the first 283mm shell of the S-H's return fire impacted the armor belt, which promptly fell off. The impact caused all of the ships faulty rivets to pop out, and she promptly fell apart under her own weight and sank."
Soyuz is a behemoth, but has some impressive armor to boot!
How the hell is a Battleship that never left the drawing board because the ruskys couldn't figure out how to efficiently mount the amour on the damn ship a naval legend???? Naval legend implies that the ship actually did something. The only thing notable done by anything related to this ship was that the guns were used as field artillery.
Godlike graphics, i’d like to see how WG blow our minds when naval legends hits bismarc vs hood
Look at the video of Bismarck from Sabaton. The video was created by them
Okay you have to admit it. Even tho their balance- and Marketing department strategies are somewhat screwed up and this "Naval Legend" ship only really existed to like 22% with no battle history, and now I say it again; their media/video/design department are god like with their CGI and stuff (like the video "wait for me"). Because of the work of these dedicated men and women, I still somehow support this game, cuz these people give us such incredible content.
Good job to the guys who do all this stuff.
Please keep going to make such incredible videos for us!
Amazing work by the video team, maybe soon we can see more Naval legends about ships that are not afloat like the Enterprise or of the many IJN carriers.
This failure of a ship type by the Soviet Navy had virtually no impact whatsoever on history or the design of future battleships since the Soviets were incapable of making a structurally sound ship that could contend with other ships already in service. I understand you are a Russian company and want to have pride in your history, but fabricating what you wish this battleship would have been through the tint of rose colored glasses is just silly. There are a ton of other ships that were actually built in real life and served in combat that deserve to have their stories told over some Soviet pipe dream of actually completing a single working battleship.
Dude wargaming belarussians not Russians (even though many Russians work there). But Lesta (Wow dev studio is indeed Russians).
There is also the fact that even if this ship had been built, she would have joined the German/British/Japanese/American/French/Italian WWII battleships in being utterly pointless and a waste of money.
It created big impact on Soviet Union.
There was no such ships in USSR before, because you know, USSR didn't have colonies that she needed to protect. However, It caused big impact on industry. I understand that maybe you want all videos about US Navy, but man, there are other countries that also wanted to build something like that. Not to mention that USSR had bad industry as heritage from Tsarist Russian Empire. You must understand feelings of people different countries too and their history.
It was a big advance for a whole country. In order to build something like that, you must, for example, build big crane and etc., basically create new industrial sector from zero. In just 10-15 years. In country that has a lot more problems to fix. But still, they started to create them (its guns, for example are real and stationed in russian weapon test field). Yet again, its a legend machine, USSR superweapon like german Tirpitz or Bismarck. Of course, its never saw combat thanks to german Invasion.
But i can't say that her german "counterparts" have big naval history too thanks to carriers and submarines. For example, Tirpiz was at her port in Norway almost all time and did almost nothing.
@@licrygh Agreed, even a design like this is monumental.
@Ivan Karaschuk
oh well, at least Stalin has his priorities set right in this instance lol...Nazi land advance finished this already outdated pipe dream battleship plans and made soviets pump all of their resources into rugged reliable actual war winning tanks...
While i usually enjoy your videos, i must share the sentiment of others. The video should not have the Naval Legends moniker. Making the video is fine, but call it something else, like Behind the Scenes (or Plans). Let the legends stay with those who served and lost their lives in battles and sorties.
honestly, the CGI used by WG on their videos are far better than the ones used by Hollywood
WHERE IS BISMARCK NAVEL LEGENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been waiting forever for it.
It's a german ship so... They'll never do it hehe
@@skdKitsune yep.
@@skdKitsune They already did about a german submarine
None knew what was going on in the Soviet navy in the west? The Kirov Class Cruisers were designed by Ansaldo. The Tashkent was built in Italy. The Soviets PURCHASED the project of the UP41 battleship, and the Sovetsky Soyuz class being a scaled up Littorio Class is quite evident.
Finally, some1 that does hv a decent knowledge bout naval history
The Sovetsky Soyuz deserves it's title as a naval legend for it was the most powerful battleship ever laid to be designed by the Russian navy at that time and the impact it made on the industrial capabilities for this time period. Just because it was not even built does not mean its concept wasn't used they clearly said the gun during the siege of Leningrad was utilized as an artillery battery that destroyed many German bunkers and ammunition supplies
16 battleships of a single class would probably have also made it the most numerous class of battleship ever built. Most other navies seemed to have just 2-4 of each class before technologies overtook the existing class.
Please ad eved sunken warships like enterprise,tirpitz,ark royal,implacable,bismark,nelson,prince eugen,arkansas,pensacola,northtampton, and others and also submarines. Thank you
When did Enterprise sink ? But yeah , she's a real naval legend !
*prinz eugen and its bismarck*
To everyone who dislike this you have been accused of anti soviet behavior and will be given a metal
and the iawos would still have curb stamped this thing
So, what is the legends??
the ship never build?
soviet industry??
the gun on land
the idea on paper??
or the guys make the CGI??
Jesus Christ those cinematics are honestly so lifelike i thought they were real
The only real ship in this video was that palada class cruiser, Aurora
I think even had the Soviets managed to complete there battleships I still dont think there was any dispute that american fast battle ships qualified the best balance between protection, firepower, and endurance. And the one quality often overlooked was the American radar fire control system allowing engagements beyond line of sight!
Naval legends or paper legends? Also the torpedo bulge of this ship was stolen from the littorio class bb of italy
What if... What if... Come on. Nice game of corse, Love russia, dasha, and vodka
@@OTOMAGIC Who complains? Im not talking about the game. About the video, naval legends are legends you know? Real ships. Did you read above? Go find your brain...
I mean it would probably have been built if a certain German with a funny mustache didn't invade them.
@@OTOMAGIC OK sorry
@@OTOMAGIC But.....ha ha
Haru? Haru! You are probably the biggest dumbass I have ever encountered in these comments like ever, and WoWs has some pretty dumb people that comment on their videos and play the games
Just imagine what would have happened if this ambitious Fleet building Program would have been actually completed before WWII broke out...
WOW! It is hard for me to believe the push back your getting for this content! This has been great and I loved the episode. Keep up all the great work!
I heard the Japanese were developing a Wave Motion gun for their Yamato-class battleships that only got canceled with they were defeated by the Americans. Perhaps WG could add that to the game.
WG made a vid about a paper ship while its fans still waiting for bismarck/RN ship
It almost sounds like these ships were actually built and saw service, I just came back from a robotics competition, you have no idea how many robots were great on paper but did not work or could even be built, you can imagine how well those paper robots did
High Shell velocity
wg: did someone said O V E R P E N
Thanks for the video - absolutely fantastic - Cheers :)
Truly a legend. Soviet bias intensifies.
I know what is missing...
Sovier National Anthem for Sovetski Soyuz
Now its perfect
I love these videos but I would advise making a Naval legends video on ships are are actually naval legends... or at least built.
I actually don’t mind videos on ships that where at least started but I would like to see ships like Bismarck and Roma take priority
The CGI is amazing. But you could have chosen October Revolution Battleship. At least that one existed
Ideas for Naval Legends
King George V, Duke of York or Prince of Wales ,Warspite, Vanguard, Bismarck, Nagato, Kongo, Prinz Eugen, Graf Spee, Enterprise
Missouri, Wisconsin, Roma, Sydney etc.
WG: did you say paper ship?
The Bismarck are not bad
King Battleship Three of the Four built Iowa’s got one (never knew why they skipped Wisco) but still it hurts because she’s considered quite a safe ship in multiple wars
They did the Mighty Mo?
I’ve never seen it
King Battleship yes look for it
Can’t seem to find it
Personal message to "World of Warships Official Channel": Keep Up The Good Work! What I really admire about World of Warships Naval Legends is their attention to detail. Especially the close up views of all classes of naval vessels. I'm very impressed by it! Right now, I don't have a PC Desktop as of yet, but hopefully in the future that will change.
call a non-built ship navy legend, what a pity
Funny that bisko doesnt get a legends vid till mid 2020 yet sovetsky soyuz gets one despite never being made
Naval legend talking about a battleship that never become a legend at all... XD
Please talk more about IJN carrier fleet
This series is awesome! Sad they never built this thing but then same with the Montana. Technology was moving so fast that by the end of the war, battleships were no longer needed.
how about a legends episode on the Bismarck or Tirpitz? Roma?
My say about this is that even though these ships weren't even built before and during ww2, we can get to know these ships and their designs as well as their intentions of why the Soviet government would build such ships of the design, and there are other ships that were supposedly designed to reinforce the navy as an attack or defensive ship. Even though it wasn't complete in time, these designs show what these ships are supposedly for, remember they thought that the war could go longer.
Well, in reality you did'nt build anything.
During the same time period the Soviet bb.s were planned and laid down in the USA 10 US bb.s were planned, laid down and launched. The North Carolina class 2 ships North Carolina and Washington. Tthe South Dakota class 4 ships South Dakota, Massachusetts, Alabama and Indiana. The Iowa class Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri and Wisconsin. If you claim that the Soviet union was the worlds biggest industrial power that is a staement that does not quite correspond with real facts. In the same time US undustry armed all the western allies with tanks, airplanes, halftracks, trucks etc and in the same time built the fast carrier task forces: four carriers, six to eight support vessels and not less than 18 destroyers, preferably 24. And at the same time the US industry could supply the homefront with various consumer goods, something the Soviet industry never could.
@@trident6547 Generally, the SU had to rebuild every possible production from scratch after the revolution in 1917 (financed by Germans). Speed of industrialization was unique - practically no other country in history was able to repeat such performance. I know, it doesn't match with common western narrative, but try to get over it - speak to scientists or people who used to live in the USSR. And regarding your listing of carriers and destroyers: the Soviet Union understood itself a continental country. Compare T-34 and M3 Lee tank designs. Any other questions?
@@nexotron4121
No you don't compare M3 Lee/M4 with a T-34. Just like you don't Rambo into Germany when you cripple their entire industry with bombings.
"Speak to scientists?" Well, if that's your only way to hear about "science" ...
T-34 is good on paper only (but you must be a short Chang so you might fit into one). It was good for Russia and Soviet strategy. M4 had one of the highest crew survival rates after getting hit and no magic helped T-34s against an 88mm.
So no, no questions for mediocre answers.
@@solomonarbc "No you don't compare M3 Lee/M4 with a T-34." --> And we both know why ;)
"Speak to scientists?" Well, if that's your only way to hear about "science" ... --> bla-bla-bla
"T-34 is good on paper only (but you must be a short Chang so you might fit into one)." --> Well, germans experiences this in different way:
www.welt.de/geschichte/zweiter-weltkrieg/article156844134/Der-T-34-Panzer-traf-die-Wehrmacht-wie-ein-Monster.html
you may be surprised, but discovery channel sees this in the same way - th-cam.com/video/fVg6gFmuRlE/w-d-xo.html
So, dude, don't consider this offending, but you may want to reconsider what you learned about the Soviet Union or Russia at school. I do live in the West, but there is so much rubbish info about the country and history related to it. As Winston Churchill said: "History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it."
@@nexotron4121 yeah, you were continental. Guess who lend-leased you 92% of your "continental" railroad equipment and 57% of your total equipment, equating to 11 billion dollars? While simultaneously building said battleships?
the coolest part of this video was the cgi of the battleship into real life. legit thought it was real for a second, then realised the sovetsky soyuz isnt.
um... How is a concept that was never built a "Naval Legend"? Are we going to be doing "naval legend" videos about the USS Montana or the G-series battleships now, too?
The uncompleted ship is shown in Naval Legends because it made an influence in the post-war USSR.
If this can be on Navel Legends...
WHERE IS MONTANA??
Damn the CGI visuals looks amazing. WOW!!!
USSR:Hey can i copy ur homework?
USA:Yeahbut dont make It to obvious
The thing that hyped me the most of this videos is the 3d model of the Vittorio Veneto.
"could have been" "should have been" "what if..." come on WG, just own up to the fact that the Soviet navy up to the end of WW2 was a 3rd rate power.
Why not make a video about a real ship from a real navy like the HMS Dreadnought?? You know that ship that started a naval arms race.....
Could you imagine Stalin disguised as a shipwright in Hamburg or Marseille building and studying ships going by Joey.
Perhaps Naval Myths would have been a better title....
Key word: High seas. Sovetsky soyuz sits high in the water so it won't get crushed by a wave, but apparently this design did not carry over at all to the kremlin, which basically sits at waterline. and you say this thing influenced later designs?
i really enjoy this series but this? a ship that was never completed? im gonna pass this one WG. its a shame you can do naval legends on paper boats but not on real warships especially the Japanese ones. there are the 4 kongo class, Nagato (served as flagship until Yamato), Akagi, Shokaku, Zuikaku and many more.
Unfortunately, the IJN was very successful at destroying documents at the end of the war. If the ship wasn't captured or exceptionally well documented in wartime intelligence, it is pretty much lost to history.
Plus the Ize
The classes main flaw as related to armor was the simple fact that the USSR could not make thick enough armor plates so it might be collectively thicker than Iowa's armor but it is less effective.
Tier 7= losing all you credits even if you win.
Thank you for the episode
I swear you are beter of to just remove these ''soviet ships'' from the game 90% of them didnt even exist plus your history preformance in Naval Warfare is laughable, the only real purpose these things have is catering to your own Russian audience. Honestly getting kind of fed up with this soviet ''what if'' nonsense when you talk about Naval Warfare in ww2 the Soviet navy is the last thing anyone mentions.
"The rest of the world didn't see us as a potential rival" They still remembered the second Pacific Squadron...
@@jonathanwhiteacre7046 The "voyage of the damned" so much incompetence gathered in one fleet.
They are turning World of Warships into Red Alert. Communist symbols everywhere. This is going even deeper than inserting 1950-60 ships into WWI-II game - making Soviet BB so much stronger than really existing (and in reality much more advanced) ships is just both sad and pathetic.
It makes sense only if you understand the word "legend" as "fairy tale"... :(
@@sdfoxy007 no one is forcing you to play with the soviet branch soy boy
I dont want a million Fletchers or Clevelands.
Love that music when describing performance characteristics
As usually I like naval legends series, this time it is not documentary, but ordinary soviet propaganda.