Nissan Misfire + Parasitic Draw Diagnosed INSTANTLY with Xinfrared P2 Pro Thermal Camera!

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  • @gmtech2012
    @gmtech2012 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is actually something that I've never thought of trying and I applaud your cleverness. Remember though, that coils usually fail because of a lean cylinder.
    It's always important to ask yourself "Why did this component fail?" whatever it may be.
    Cheers Matt

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes agreed. Normally a coil fails due to high resistance on the secondary actually- and a lean condition can certainly cause that since fuel is a conductor. Often worn plugs and wires can also be the cause- again those would result in high resistance. In fact a sure way to cause really fast coil failure is to cause ultimately high resistance- an open. If you ever tried leaving a connected coil in the open on the engine you will find it WILL find a ground- in some cases through the coil casing itself which will damage it quickly.
      I also saw another comment that recommended the camera can be used to diagnose wheel bearings. I didn’t even think of that and the car in this video even had a bad wheel bearing as one of its issues.

  • @DuaneDonaldson
    @DuaneDonaldson ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the cool camera in action, we would like to see other problems besides a bad coil on future misfire videos to show other examples of how good this camera might be, a cooler running injector might be an example of a no-fuel misfire. When easy to do, SWAPTRONICS is always the preferred way for a DIY to diagnose. Too many folks are not very sure of their electronic skills.

  • @TheDisgruntledMechanic
    @TheDisgruntledMechanic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    quick and easy! great diag as always.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mike. I was amazed by how well this thing worked.

    • @TheDisgruntledMechanic
      @TheDisgruntledMechanic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox if I didn't have an expensive snap on thermal imager I would be all over this one!

  • @ThunderbirdRocket
    @ThunderbirdRocket ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson . Makes sense ! Cuz it saves time and cents !! And I like that 🙌🏼. Thanks mate !!!

  • @Paint0nBrush
    @Paint0nBrush ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using one of those cheap GY-LCD90640 thermal cameras for the last few years. Despite its low resolution, it has been very useful! especially for cooking.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha never thought of it for cooking!!!

  • @Backstabbio
    @Backstabbio ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted a thermal for so long, and then I got one, but so far, it's never been very useful. I always have other ways of finding out what the issue is. However, I have had a hell of a lot of fun playing with the thermal. It's a cool toy, and maybe it'll be useful one day.

  • @billsmith2212
    @billsmith2212 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tool for many uses . This saves me from locking an associate in the trunk for a DAY OR TWO to watch the trunk light ! LOL !

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahahaha yeah may have done that also for detecting chassis noises, water leaks…. I always keep a midget on hand.

    • @billsmith2212
      @billsmith2212 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox I hear you can rent Mini-Me for peanuts . He hasn't been busy lately . On the chassis noises , I highly recommend the guy who hung UNDER the car in Cape Fear ! Lock Your Doors ! LOL !😄

  • @smc9764
    @smc9764 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost felt like you were in my garage. I have two Altimas I am working on in my spare time and one is sitting on quickjacks too. I bought a FLIR a few years ago and it's pretty cool tool. For awhile I was just walking around my house looking at things. can help you troubleshoot DIY home projects too.

  • @1_D333
    @1_D333 ปีที่แล้ว

    and once again i learned something new. not the method but the device, that small form factor but very advanced capability. thanks Matt 👍

  • @sanctealphonse4510
    @sanctealphonse4510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to produce this video. Out of all the subscriptions I have on TH-cam on a variety of different topics I'm always excited to get the notification when you post a new one. One day I'll sign up for your paid channel... it's not an issue of money for me but time... plus, hate to say it, but ever since I've switched to owning nothing but Toyotas I don't have much car work these days. When I owned a Ford is when I learned a ton about diag... was working on that beast CONSTANTLY.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback. glad you enjoy the channel and even if you don’t plan to do a lot of car work I think you will love the more challenging case studies on the paid channel.

  • @atlantasamedaydelivery1769
    @atlantasamedaydelivery1769 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing. This is a game changer in diagnostics.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Completely!!!! I was absolutely stunned at how well it worked.
      And for only $300. Sheeesh my scope accessories alone that I would normally use for this cost more than that

  • @JohnDoesGarage
    @JohnDoesGarage ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thermal imaging capability is definitely on my gotta have it list. Ivan at PHAD has done a few videos demonstrating several devices and I’m definitely going to get one.

    • @scientist100
      @scientist100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got one and not for Auto in mind but rather for electronic board repair lol Got one of the nicest one.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah I have seen several videos using them and they were all really expensive and I doubted how useful it would really be. I was in the market for one but I was skeptical that any device under $500 would even work. so when I was approached by Pergear I was excited to try this out and it worked way better than I expected. I can’t believe I have gone this long without one!!

    • @jum5238
      @jum5238 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I watched Matthew Wandel show the Topdon TC004, and I was sooo impressed I bought one immediately. It's been great to use around my house, as I can see spots where insulation is missing, I can spot studs in the wall, a metal plate behind the wall where I was going to try to hang a huge mirror, and I plan on using it with my car as well. Maybe spot exhaust manifold leaks without having to get out my smoke machine. I'm suspecting my wife has a caliper that's sticking and so I want to take a drive and check a couple of calipers for relative heat emissivity. I took it over to someone else's house and spotted wiring behind the wall. It's a bit bigger (hand held gun type of shape), and not much different in price than what you have here. You can record pictures as well. I wish it had a real-live view on it as well.

    • @JohnDoesGarage
      @JohnDoesGarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox it almost makes you feel like you’re cheating…almost. My father was an owner-operator truck driver and as soon as I was old enough I started helping him work on his truck because if the truck didn’t run, we didn’t eat. That was the late 60’s so between 8-10 I was his gofer. I eventually started doing things like flat repairs on 22” split rims and eventually I learned things like troubleshooting lights and such. The only tool I had was a test light. It was during that time I got interested in motorcycles so I taught myself how to fix them because I couldn’t afford a new one. I’d find a bike that was headed to the scrap heap and fix it. Then came cars and I finally got a DVOM and I thought that was the shit right there. Then a clamp-on amp meter instead of having to put the meter in series. Are you kidding me?!!! I do embrace the development of better tools for us to use, but this is damn near Spock with his tricorder!

    • @Mr2004MCSS
      @Mr2004MCSS ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jum5238 I have the Topdon TC004 as well. I'm very impressed on how well it works and will definitely be using it for vehicle diagnostics as well as other things.

  • @ZachsTile
    @ZachsTile ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool little tool…

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly on of the most amazing things I have used yet!!

  • @jgeorges3061
    @jgeorges3061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt, AWESOME as always been looking to buy one will check the P2 Pro that was really fast way to find the problem thanks for sharing, cheeeeers

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You won’t be disappointed. I really can’t believe how well that thing worked. It absolutely is one of the most amazing technologies I have ever used.

  • @brownwrench
    @brownwrench ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big Altima Energy

  • @vieczurable
    @vieczurable ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad ass idea.
    In above case of coils contactless IR thermometer should do similar job.

  • @labradormcgraw
    @labradormcgraw ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep - a game-changer for sure!

  • @АлексейДовженко-ю5ъ
    @АлексейДовженко-ю5ъ ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! A thermal imaging camera is a very useful tool. I first saw them in action a couple of weeks ago, with Ivan from Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics.
    Hello from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿

  • @guyaldrich5878
    @guyaldrich5878 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video !

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. This was a lot of fun. I really didn’t think this would work as well as it did. Technology is amazing.

    • @guyaldrich5878
      @guyaldrich5878 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox I was also surprised how quickly it showed where the problem was , You keep selling me tools ! LOL !

  • @alejandrovelazquez2378
    @alejandrovelazquez2378 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank. I really loved using that thermal camera. I have seen others use them before but I had no idea just how well they actually work.

  • @cullenmiller8170
    @cullenmiller8170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to use a laser thermometer to look for hot or cold spots, but the infrared is definitely a game changer.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh totally. I have had a laser thermometer for years and I very seldom use it. I really only use it to determine if a IAT or CTS is reasonably accurate.

    • @brownwrench
      @brownwrench ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still use mine for thermostats and relative temps across cylinders

  • @thecardoc100
    @thecardoc100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When someone starts using one of these cameras for diagnostics, they also usually get to add a new word to their vocabulary. Emissivity.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahahaha I try to use that word in casual conversation every chance I get lol.

    • @JohnDoesGarage
      @JohnDoesGarage ปีที่แล้ว

      I could make the case for using emissivity in relationship to radiant beauty. “Check out the emissivity on that!”, as an example.

  • @GMAN420BC
    @GMAN420BC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can diagnose wheel bearings too

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oh man I didn’t think of that!!!!!! what a great idea!!! the car in the video also had a bad wheel bearing and I didn’t even think to use the camera to diagnose it lol.

    • @jum5238
      @jum5238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox I'm looking at a suspected partially frozen caliper. Brake pad was slightly more worn one one side of the front relative to the other side.

  • @kevinp8723
    @kevinp8723 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi!I am from europe,i have dtc p1562 and check engine light on a renault 1.2tce direct injection engine,all fuses is good ,all connector is connected,to much fuel injected in combustion chamber

  • @Parknest
    @Parknest ปีที่แล้ว

    Matt, Ivan from Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics reviewed a few such thermal cameras. I think he found the Topdon one to be the best overall.

  • @sheerwillsurvival2064
    @sheerwillsurvival2064 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am getting one thinking topdon

  • @sanctealphonse4510
    @sanctealphonse4510 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Matt, why does the amperage show up oscillating like that on the scope? I would expect on a constant draw to see a somewhat steady line... but I'm just diy, with an interest in this field. Have a cheap scope and always get all kinds of noise but just curious why the signal looks that way. Is the light PWM?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      great question. I noticed that too. I think maybe because there is a computer module involved on that circuit as well and maybe it’s a communication signal or something..

  • @reneneron2971
    @reneneron2971 ปีที่แล้ว

    First, i had to laugh when the question of the trunk light being on or off when the trunk is closed (without being able to observe it) is featured on a channel called, “Schrodinger’s Box”. Second, while a thermal camera is an excellent tool, the indicated temperature is strongly influenced by the emissivity of the surface being measured, just like an infrared laser thermometer. As long as you’re comparing relative temperatures of similar objects (like you did with the coils or exhaust manifold), it doesn’t matter, but the colors displayed on the camera should not be confused with an indication of absolute temperature. An excellent tool for diagnosing problems with a vehicle, without question, and the images can easily be shared with a client as confirmation of the issue.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha good point on the irony of the light in the trunk lol.
      Yes you are correct. The surface type is a major variable in the temperature display. You can even see clear examples of that with the engine when it was warmed up.
      It’s not actual temperature for sure and I agree - the relative comparison between similar objects is more accurate of a way to use this tool

    • @jum5238
      @jum5238 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a GREAT point! I was bitten recently looking at thermal imaging of a wall in which some handymen had done a poor job, and was so intent on the infrared part that I didn't see the slightly different shade of brown paint that was put on the wall at one level on up (siding), but I could definitely see a difference in heat signature! Turns out the house next door was reflecting heat onto the wall, and wasn't a result of missing insulation as the homeowner suspected. It was also difficult to do any measuring outside because there was so much heat radiating from all kinds of places around the house. And while the homeowner asked about later in the day, I mentioned theres's still a lot of heat radiating from everything and noted gradual temperature swings when the sun goes down.

  • @ChristmasCrustacean1
    @ChristmasCrustacean1 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh man, I can see here from my lawn chair here with my thermal camera that one of the ignition coils is dead.

  • @aymenmohamed1134
    @aymenmohamed1134 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍

  • @tnamen1307
    @tnamen1307 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir can I upgrade the battery of my i20 2011 to a higher rating say from 45Ah 12V to 50 or 55 Ah?
    Will there be any problem in the alternator charging system and sensors, ECM, BCM etc?

  • @brownwrench
    @brownwrench ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take images of the cat before and after the coil fix!

  • @brandonkruger3656
    @brandonkruger3656 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boss 😊

  • @carlm2590
    @carlm2590 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to get this when I can justify the expense. Times are a tad lean right now. 👍

    • @scientist100
      @scientist100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      good good, get to diagnosing right and accurately.

    • @sanctealphonse4510
      @sanctealphonse4510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I hear ya. I bought a handheld flir for about 400 when I needed to detect a potential water leak in the house. I knew it would also serve for a variety of things especially auto. My wife doesn't question my purchasing on high tech gadgets and what not anymore because I've literally saved us thousands over the years doing my own auto repair.

  • @brownwrench
    @brownwrench ปีที่แล้ว

    Luckily not the 3.5 V6. So now we have fuel washing down #3 and overheating the cat!😬

  • @imlando61
    @imlando61 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 4.6L Ford have lean codes P0171 and P0174, when engine is hot and at idle B1 & B2 STFT at 0% and both LTFT banks are at 10%, however when i increase the RPMs B1 LTFT increases to 17% but quickly drops down to 8% while the B2 LTFT increases to 24% and remain steady at 2500-3000 RPMs. Any input for my situation? Thanks!

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. You absolutely have a confirmed bank 2 lean under load. Pretty easy- check your basic single bank lean variables and it should be easy. Don’t waste time on whole engine induction and fuel sources.

    • @imlando61
      @imlando61 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox thanks for the reply, since my LTFT increases on bank 2 under load it makes me believe it’s a problem with clogged fuel injectors? Fuel pump pressure is reading 39 psi which I believe is in spec for that engine. Since the LTFT doesn’t decrease under load I can rule out a vacuum leak

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a vacuum leak. Think FASTTEC.

  • @knockywigglesworth1909
    @knockywigglesworth1909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its a Nissan & its a coil without looking. Old ones were always injectors

    • @gueguense8258
      @gueguense8258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What??

    • @jum5238
      @jum5238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gueguense8258 Common failure points?

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get out the Haynes manual and Internet forums to diagnose it 🤣

  • @gueguense8258
    @gueguense8258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the promotion still on?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is!!

    • @gueguense8258
      @gueguense8258 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I click on the link, it says the product is no longer available.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh man sorry about that- I guess it did expire. I thought it was through end of July.

    • @gueguense8258
      @gueguense8258 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox bummer.

  • @aaronartale
    @aaronartale ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to work at a place that had a $10k thermal imaging camera. I would use it to troubleshoot circuit boards and it felt like cheating

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahaha yeah I kind of felt like that too!!!! I mean all of those videos I have done using the scope to identify an ignition misfire and aligning the ignition signals to identify cylinder number and holy crap here I just point my phone at the engine and there it is lol. Absolutely I starting thinking “whats the point of my channel anymore” lol!!!

    • @aaronartale
      @aaronartale ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SchrodingersBox Your channel is great. It's really helped me a lot

  • @markboheman5691
    @markboheman5691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Allergies? You sound a little congested.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha had a little cold during this one.

  • @matthewr21
    @matthewr21 ปีที่แล้ว

    0.2A x 12V = 2.4W, that heat has to show up somewhere. 🙂

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes often the amount of amperage can be a clue in itself. anytime I see .2A to 1A I immediately suspect a light bulb. if the draw is over an amp it’s probably some type of a motor or solenoid.

    • @matthewr21
      @matthewr21 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@SchrodingersBox Yep, and thermal imaging is a great help in this sort of situation, since it could've been _any_ courtesy light that the vehicle could be equipped with that turns off when you can't see it. Glove compartment, center console, hood light, etc. While you could technically use process of elimination, this way is a lot faster.
      And I like how you plotted the current draw on the scope. An oscilloscope is a really helpful tool for diagnosing parasitic draws, particularly for using the single-shot trigger functionality to catch an intermittent draw that isn't on all the time, and for confirming whether or not it has some crazy waveform that suggests it isn't just a resistive load like a light bulb.

  • @brownwrench
    @brownwrench ปีที่แล้ว

    I want that camera

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      You should totally get it. It’s absolutely one of the most amazing things I have used. It worked way better than I expected. If you are going to get one do it before end of the month while it’s on sale!!

    • @brownwrench
      @brownwrench ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox I just might along with that X tool. Wife blows more on useless crap.

  • @aatonhernandez3561
    @aatonhernandez3561 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anybody recommend a scanner

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A really good low cost bidirectionality scanner is an XTOOL. Under $400. I have a review of one.

    • @aatonhernandez3561
      @aatonhernandez3561 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox thank you so much for taking your valuable time to answer me, i started watching your videos for the last two week. Youre awesome!

  • @abdul-kabiralegbe5660
    @abdul-kabiralegbe5660 ปีที่แล้ว

    You call this fast and cheap? Wait till I tell you what's way faster and costs nothing to boot! It's called checking GROUNDS. Not to be confused with checking grounds.😂😂😂😂
    Disclaimer: The reference to GROUNDS is a long standing joke on this channel. Not to be taken seriously.🙏

  • @jayharks7710
    @jayharks7710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the infomercial. Thumbs down!

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I usually don’t thumbs down free information on new affordable technologies that allow me to improve my skills but I guess some people do. Usually it’s the people still turning wrenches the same as they always have.

    • @TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc
      @TroyStevensStelzerPaintingInc ปีที่แล้ว

      On what planet would this be considered an infomercial? Matt is passing along time saving advice using new tech; of which he earns NO commission. Giving a thumbs down to this vid puts you on a whole new level of douchedom, really. Go watch Scotty.

  • @SEXYTECH1000
    @SEXYTECH1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME DIAGNOSIS MATT.

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The P2 Pro made it easy. Maybe too easy lol!

  • @e.v.a.l.s
    @e.v.a.l.s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey that's pretty cool. will it work with my landline?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahahaha. When I first read it I thought your wrote “landmine” and I was thinking “well this might be a good way to find those” hahaha

    • @e.v.a.l.s
      @e.v.a.l.s ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox are you talking about the weapons? or jackass neighbors who walk their dog in your yard while you're at work?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahaha would it not work for both??

    • @e.v.a.l.s
      @e.v.a.l.s ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SchrodingersBox i don't know much about the weapon, but i always thought they were mechanical-pressure activated. so the head shown on a camera, wouldn't that be the actual explosion?

    • @SchrodingersBox
      @SchrodingersBox  ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking it reflects heat at a different rate than the surrounding area. Not really willing to experiment.