Leopold Godowsky - 53 Studies on Chopin's Études
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- 0:00 - Study No.1 on Étude Op.10 No.1 (Michael Wu)
2:13 - Study No.2 on Étude Op.10 No.1, for left hand alone (Emanuele Delucchi)
5:12 - Study No.3 on Étude Op.10 No.2, for left hand alone (David Stanhope)
6:55 - Study No.4 on Étude Op.10 No.2, Ignus Fatuus (Sukyeon Kim)
8:54 - Study No.5 on Étude Op.10 No.3, for left hand alone (Laurent Wagschal)
14:02 - Study No.6 on Étude Op.10 No.4, for left hand alone (Boris Berezovsky)
16:39 - Study No.7 on Étude Op.10 No.5 (Konstantin Scherbakov)
18:28 - Study No.8 on Étude Op.10 No.5, Study on the white keys (Marc-André Hamelin)
20:19 - Study No.9 on Étude Op.10 No.5, Tarantella (Marc-André Hamelin)
22:51 - Study No.10 on Étude Op.10 No.5, Study on black and white keys (Carlo Grante)
25:12 - Study No.11 on Étude Op.10 No.5, Inversion for the left hand (Michael Nanasakov)
27:03 - Study No.12 on Étude Op.10 No.5, Inversion for the right hand (Jorge Bolet)
29:17 - Study No.12a on Étude Op.10 No.5, for left hand alone (Carlo Grante)
31:52 - Study No.13 on Étude Op.10 No.6, for left hand alone (Marc-André Hamelin)
35:29 - Study No.14 on Étude Op.10 No.7, Toccata (Carlo Grante)
37:20 - Study No.15 on Étude Op.10 No.7, Nocturne (Jorge Bolet)
41:43 - Study No.15a on Étude Op.10 No.7, for left hand alone (Ivan Ilić)
44:17 - Study No.16 on Étude Op.10 No.8 (Konstantin Scherbakov)
47:16 - Study No.16a on Étude Op.10 No.8 (Ivan Ilić)
51:18 - Study No.17 on Étude Op.10 No.9 (David Stanhope)
53:43 - Study No.18 on Étude Op.10 No.9, Imitation of Étude Op.25 No.2 (Marc-André Hamelin)
56:28 - Study No.18a on Étude Op.10 No.9, for left hand alone (David Stanhope)
1:01:34 - Study No.19 on Étude Op.10 No.10 (Marc-André Hamelin)
1:05:28 - Study No.20 on Étude Op.10 No.10, for left hand alone (Emanuele Delucchi)
1:08:47 - Study No.21 on Étude Op.10 No.11, for left hand alone (Konstantin Scherbakov)
1:12:31 - Study No.22 on Étude Op.10 No.12, for left hand alone (Sean Chen)
1:15:55 - Study No.23 on Étude Op.25 No.1, for left hand alone (Emanuele Delucchi)
1:18:42 - Study No.24 on Étude Op.25 No.1, like a piece for 4 hands (Carlo Grante)
1:21:33 - Study No.25 on Étude Op.25 No.1 (Jorge Bolet)
1:25:04 - Study No.26 on Étude Op.25 No.2 (Michael Nanasakov)
1:26:45 - Study No.27 on Étude Op.25 No.2, Waltz (Konstantin Scherbakov)
1:29:09 - Study No.28A on Étude Op.25 No.2, for the right hand (Emanuele Delucchi)
1:31:33 - Study No.28B on Étude Op.25 No.2, in octaves (Francesco Libetta)
1:33:49 - Study No.28a on Étude Op.25 No.2, for left hand alone (Ivan Ilić)
1:36:43 - Study No.29 on Étude Op.25 No.3 (Carlo Grante)
1:39:10 - Study No.30 on Étude Op.25 No.3, for left hand alone (Emanuele Delucchi)
1:41:59 - Study No.31 on Étude Op.25 No.4, for left hand alone (Marc-André Hamelin)
1:44:26 - Study No.32 on Étude Op.25 No.4, Polonaise (Albert Tiu)
1:50:56 - Study No.33 on Étude Op.25 No.5 (Emanuele Delucchi)
1:54:54 - Study No.34 on Étude Op.25 No.5, Mazurka (Marc-André Hamelin)
1:58:42 - Study No.35 on Étude Op.25 No.5, for left hand alone (Carlo Grante)
2:03:18 - Study No.36 on Étude Op.25 No.6 (Konstantin Scherbakov)
2:05:51 - Study No.38 on Étude Op.25 No.8 (Michael Nanasakov)
2:07:11 - Study No.39 on Étude Op.25 No.9 (Vadym Kholodenko)
2:08:24 - Study No.40 on Étude Op.25 No.9, for left hand alone (Carlo Grante)
2:09:58 - Study No.41 on Étude Op.25 No.10, for left hand alone (Carlo Grante)
2:14:54 - Study No.42 on Étude Op.25 No.11 (Robert Henry)
2:19:19 - Study No.43 on Étude Op.25 No.12, for left hand alone (Nicholas McCarthy)
2:23:25 - Study No.44 on Nouvelle Étude No.1, for left hand alone (Jorge Bolet)
2:26:28 - Study No.45 on Nouvelle Étude No.2 (Marc-André Hamelin)
2:30:41 - Study No.45a on Nouvelle Étude No.2, for left hand alone (Emanuele Delucchi)
2:32:52 - Study No.46 on Nouvelle Étude No.3 (Emanuele Delucchi)
2:36:29 - Study No.47, Combination of Études Op.10 No.5 and Op.25 No.9, Badinage (Susanne Anatchkova)
2:38:03 - Study No.48, Combination of Études Op.10 No.11 and Op.25 No.3 (Ian Hobson)
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Sukyeon Kim: / sukyeonkim
Konstantin Scherbakov: / konstantinscherbakov
Michael Nanasakov: / michaelnanasakov
Ivan Ilić: / ivancdgvideos
Sean Chen: / seanchenpiano
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I would be doing a disservice to this video if I didn’t also recommend David Stanhope’s seminars and BRILLIANT performances of the original Op.10 and Op.25 Chopin études along with their Godowsky counterparts. Here is a playlist of his videos: th-cam.com/play/PLjD-XXk1L2wPU98qxAuMioMtkuW7-Vup-.html
8:56 "Hmm this doesn't look that hard, he just changed the key, I can play this"
*for the left hand alone*
"never mind"
Actually, this study is maybe a little easier than it looks, as it omits the hardest measures of the original. It’s also brilliantly arranged so that it fits naturally in the left hand (mostly). If you have a strong left hand, you can probably learn this.
This is piano techniques to the absolute ultimate. I just finished Waldstein third movement and I found that I am on 'twinkle twinkle little star' compare to these gigantic studies.
Imagine if in the octaves etude Chopin added an octave glissando like the Waldstein third movement 😅
Lmao yeah always feels bad getting through some 'monster' rep and then getting reality checked by Don Juan 😅
@@ShaunakDesaiPiano This Octave glissando on the third movement of the Wldstein is a absolute nightmare !
For a quick reference, these pieces are not as hard as they seem. Yes, these deem virtuous, but Beethoven sonatas are harder than they sound (like Mozart pieces). The etudes are much harder nonetheless
Well, if you're going to do this kind of ultra-mega-virtuosic kind of thing, you may as well put it to actually good use with composers like Feinberg, Roslavets, Sorabji or even some New Complexity lmao
To those who think tampering with Chopin's music is sacrilegious: Well, one, I don't know what you're doing here. But two, if you would like to listen to Chopin's etudes in their original form, there are hundreds of performances of them on TH-cam. They are not "ruined" by the mere existence of these studies.
Additionally, if you think what Godowsky did here was sacrilegious, then I must ask, what respect do you have for Liszt? for Rachmaninoff? for Brahms, who also made a handful of studies on Chopin's etudes? They have all arranged others' music in the same way that Godowsky has with Chopin's works and many others, yet I don't see them get nearly as much flack about it. Chopin's music wasn't even sacred during *his own time* and never was or will be the height of what music has to offer. Neither is Godowsky's. People need to stop acting like the etudes are untouchable works of refined perfection. If music isn't meant to be explored and is instead supposed to be played in the same way every single time, then it would have been a dead artform millennia ago. Restricting ourselves from extracting more from the music than what is written on the page is shooting ourselves in both feet and claiming we're champion sprinters.
To those who think Godowsky was trying to make a name for himself by piggybacking off of Chopin's legacy: I think it is more appropriate to say he was incredibly inspired by Chopin's etudes. They were made with a predominant focus on the right hand and they redefined what an etude could be. Etudes could now be incredibly musical in addition to developing one's technique. In fact, with regards to etudes like Op.25 No.7, musicality is an irreplaceable necessity to incorporate into the technical demands that the etude asks of the performer.
Godowsky saw these etudes and saw an opportunity to do something innovative for the left hand: Proving that the left hand is just as capable of providing worth to piano music as the right hand, where it has by and large been considered to provide the background elements to the right hand's melodic features. And naturally one must ask, if the left hand can take on the roles and sounds of two hands, what musical potential may we achieve by extending this to both hands?
Furthermore, Godowsky iterates heavily in his foreword of these studies that his intentions were NOT to replace or "build on" the original etudes. These studies are meant to explore the capabilities of the left hand and explore new harmonies and ideas based off of the original ideas. These are a work of passion, not plagiarism.
Lastly, Godowsky was highly revered by the likes of Ferruccio Busoni and Sergei Rachmaninoff. He did just fine making a name for himself on his own, both as a performer and a composer/arranger.
To those who think Godowsky's efforts here are lazy recreations of the original etudes: I attest that people who make this rather lazy claim have not even read the sheet music for the studies. The first two studies alone disprove this idea. For the first study, while Godowsky could have merely switched the roles of the hands in the first etude, he wanted to make a mirror image between the hands, creating a rich and grand sound that also mustn't get the hands to cross over one another too much. For those who claim that Godowsky's efforts are unmusical or "ruin the Chopin etudes", I ask of you, what is he doing in the first study besides simply doubling up the arpeggios?
As for the second study, Godowsky completely transforms what we know about the first etude, introducing harmonies, subharmonies, brand new ideas on voicing, and a bit of syncopation (when you consider the different voicing ideas) - all in one hand! He even changes the original etude's key of C major to the key of D-flat major in order to make the study more comfortable to play, along with arousing a brilliantly lush sound.
Lastly, backtracking to my claim that people who make this claim are lazy and haven't read the sheet music: Can someone who meticulously provides fingering, pedaling, forewords, and preparatory exercises ON TOP OF making these studies be considered lazy? Would you have been able to make these in the 20 years' time that Godowsky was able to?
To those who think Godowsky's efforts here are unartistic: I've already provided examples of his artistic capabilities in the last few paragraphs, but let's keep going. Can someone who threads out a nocturne, tarantella, polonaise, mazurka, and more from a set of etudes be considered unartistic? Would you have been able to provide fingering that makes these studies feel comfortable in the hands despite being so difficult? The reharmonization of certain parts in the study on Op.10 No.3 and the imitation study on Op.10 No.9; the horrifying misery encompassed in the study on Op.10 No.6; the astoundingly gorgeous, harp-like recreation of the Op.25 No.1 etude in its third study; and the brilliant theme and variations on nouvelle etude No.2. All of these are exemplary showcases of extracting new and wonderful musical ideas from Chopin's etudes, in my personal opinion. You don't have to like the music you hear here, but to discredit Godowsky's attempts is massively and sorely discrediting his musicianship.
I tried my very best to choose what I consider to be the best recordings of these studies that are readily available on TH-cam. If you made it this far, I encourage you to listen to these studies with an open mind. These studies were created out of a deep love for Chopin's music. If you love Chopin as much as you claim you do, then what is the harm in giving these studies enriched with new ideas an honest chance?
why do you justify yourself so much? calm down. if people come to listen to these studies, it is precisely to discover something else. Take easy bro
Have you had a lot of messages condemning these Godowsky studies? I noted your advice to those who find them sacrilegious. However, after sampling some of them, I find them incredibly beautiful, actually, in their own right. I do wonder what Chopin would have thought if he could have known of these versions of his own work.
I must admit to having a liking of that kind of lush complexity which seems to be characteristic of Godowsky - a composer I must explore some more.
@@michaeledwards1172 The points I made in my comment address most of the criticisms I’ve seen in video performances of Godowsky’s work, many of which have been on my channel over the years. It’s a bit frustrating to see people take this purist attitude about classical music when the romantic era was anything but that. More frustrating to see people act educated about things they clearly haven’t done the work to study even a little bit lol. But I’m satisfied now that I’ve made this comment honestly.
And yes, many of Godowsky’s studies are gorgeous and rich in their own right. If you want more of his music to listen to, the Java Suite, Passacaglia, Piano Sonata, arr. of Saint-Saëns’s Le Cygne, and Triakontameron are great starters :)
People on the internet think that they know more than the experts. Godowsky credited Chopin in this work, why would people think it's sacrilegious? Godowsky didn't even claim that this version is a definitive, better version of the original. This is definitely a tribute, hommage, to Chopin. People are just loud because they think they have a Phd from wikipedia university.
Totally agree with you. All composers have come up with variations on other compositions. No need to get het up over it!
You're the most obsessed dude with these studies, after me of course. Wonderful work.
Probably gonna be my last video of Godowsky for a long while lmao, but then again I said that for the past 2 Godowsky vids as well
Finally i find people as obsessed with Godowsky as i am
I mean, how can you not be obsessed by Godowsky ahah?
@@SeigneurReefShark so we meet again:)
And you're right... Everytime I listen to one of his pieces i hear an unrivaled contrapuntal Genius..
@@katrmior I see we are three.
I read that one pianist, Francesco Libetta (heard here at 1:31:33) performed this whole entire set twice in one day, from memory. That is beyond my realm of comprehension. One of my greatest wishes, yet one that is quite impossible, is to wake up one day a virtuoso capable of performing works such as this.
I heard that he’s performed it twice, not necessarily in one day 😯 Still a remarkable achievement regardless!!
FLibetta has an outstanding technique and also memory. .
It's an accomplishment for sure as a performer, but as Hamelin pointed out in the booklet of his complete recordings, it is also a very ambitious task as a listener to digest the entire collection at once.
Godowsky was a genius, and these studies on Chopin's etudes are endlessly fascinating. This is not just bringing piano technique to its limits, it is also great music, harmonic and melodic variations on the originals. All the great composers wrote variations on music written by others, what is wrong with that? I love it, as much as I love Chopin's original etudes. Thanks for this exciting compilation.
Amazing achievement to have them all put into one video! Thank you for this wonderful effort
For those who don’t know: The 53 studies in this video were not all that Godowsky wanted to write, apparently. There were several other studies that either went unfinished or were otherwise missing (we only have evidence of 3 unfinished studies, discovered last year. You can hear what they sound like in this video: th-cam.com/video/R7IP2ohqupU/w-d-xo.html ).
The evidence we have of his other, missing studies come from the notes of his secretary, John George Hinderer. Here's a list of the other missing studies:
• Study in A minor after Op.10 No.2
• Study in G-flat major after Op.10 No.5, listed as "12c". Black keys study for both hands, subtitled "Chinoserie" (Chinese style).
• Study in C major after Op.10 No.5. White key study for both hands.
• Study in E-flat (probably major, but it was unspecified) after Op.10 No.11.
• Study in F-sharp major after Op.25 No.3, subtitled "Marsch" (March). You can hear the beginning of it in the video I linked.
• Study in G-sharp minor after Op.25 No.6, "Inversion". This was meant to invert the thirds for both the left hand and the right hand.
• Study in C-sharp minor or F-sharp minor after Op.25 No.7, "Elegie for the left hand alone". A 1903 listing had it in C-sharp, but the most recent listing, 1909, had it in F-sharp.
• Study in D-flat major after Op.25 No.8. This one's history is a little weird. It's listed as a study in thirds, but also a study for thirds and octaves. Hinderer also said there were 2 separate versions: 1 for left hand alone and 1 that was probably for both hands, but the focus of the technique was on the right hand.
• Study in C-sharp minor after Op.25 No.12, for both hands.
• Study in F minor after Nouvelle Etude No.1, for both hands. Can be heard in the video I linked above. Marc-André Hamelin ended up finishing this one.
• Study in A minor: Combination of Op.25 No.4 and Op.25 No.11.
• Study in A minor: Combination of Op.10 No.2, Op.25 No.4, and Op.25 No.11. The famed triple etude. Can be heard in the video I linked above.
Furthermore, it is worth noting that Frederic Meinder has his own left hand versions of the Op.25 No.1, Op.25 No.7, and Op.25 No.11. A version of Op.25 No.6 and Op.25 No.8 for left hand alone do exist, but I’m not allowed to disclose by who yet. And Andrey Komanetsky has his own arrangement of Op.25 No.11 for left hand alone, which I personally think is more pianistically appropriate than Meinders. Lastly, I’m making my own version of the Op.25 No.6 Inversion Study and Op.25 No.8 in thirds for LH alone ☺️ And possibly my own arrangement of the Op.25 No.7 in F-sharp minor for LH alone too, if I can muster up the musicality for it ahaha. I also have combinations in progress:
• Op.10 No.11 combined with Op.25 No.1.
• Op.10 No.11 imitating Op.25 No.1.
• Op.10 No.8 combined with Op.25 No.3.
Is there a link to the notes?
I am curious as well. Where did you obtain your research?
@@arno_grnfld455 Sorry for the late response. I read about this in a book of Godowsky’s incomplete studies, which can be found here: muse-press.com/en/item/mp00303/
@@edward3204 Please see my response to Arno_Grnfld!
@@Varooooooom thanks, you've already answered me on discord, anyway en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_Chopin%27s_%C3%89tudes#Omitted/Unfinished_Studies
26:25 I love the 9-8 suspensions in this version (for both the V and I), makes me smile.
Undoubtedly one of the greatest collections of piano work ever uploaded to TH-cam. Thank you for your effort.
1:50 do not be tired
I think this is a very important work. Being so hard technically, it will help a pianist a great deal with sound problems and musicality. Of course if they study them alongside with the originals. It will give an important insight into the original work. Truly important work imo.
Visually i see a vibrant fluctuation of mosaic notes as sand would cover a sand castle, Chopin's!
The shimmering melodic waters inexorably remove the vestige of the Chopin, but the memory vivid of adumbrated Chopin work remains, enjoyably more fixed than it did prior, my memory of the original intensified. And i neither read music nor play piano, a musical blind man as when reading brail.
I love this musical homage to Chopin.
Thank you for playing and posting.
Thank you for including the footnotes + annotations in the video
These are absolutely brilliant compositions, thanks for posting them.
These ones are even more difficult! Stunning.
What a wonderful upload ! Thanks for scoring these pieces and choosing Bolet in some of the pieces
Thank yoy so much for your very great effort in putting all these all time classic performances altogether. I am still a long way to go after the Appassionata !
The winterwind sounds more chilling!
What a titanic upload. Thank you so much!
Thank you! I will gradually listen to everything. I love listening to music while walking.
Congratulations on getting this done!
those combinations are absolutely amazing!
You mean compositions
@@MeatBunFul no, i actually meant combinations. The last two studies are combinations of two Etudes each.
The things I’m waiting for!!!
Godowsky really makes his students work so hard on the left hand !
This is really amazing.
Great selection.
Brzo,jako ali se opet oseca neznost. Negde isprekidano......mora da se vezba,vezba i posle toga ce biti savrseno🧡
🙏👍
I recently discovered that Saint Saens also did a suite of left-hand etudes. And his etudes in general are really good. Just wanted to surface that to you, since I can tell you have a soft-spot for left-handed pieces!
Oooh, I did not know that! I'll be checking those out in a bit. Thank you! :)
Wow that third op. 25 no. 1 is so beautiful
5:15 Godowsky's left-hand etude in a-minor after Chopin inspired me to try my hand (no pun intended) at a left-hand transcription in b-minor of Rachmaninoff's "Flight of the Bumblebee" transcription. B-minor fits the left hand well for the opening descending run and melody (2-3-5-4-5 fingering from f-sharp down to d) with supporting chords though some parts are proving quite problematic. My own feeble attempt has made me appreciate Godowsky's genius afresh.
Let's fucking go I finally figured out how to make Synthesia piano videos with real performance audio, time to make MIDIs of all Hamelin's etudes
how?
Ultimate difficulty of performance and composition.
Very interesting.
No.25 is soooooo amazing.
1:44:44 I'm sure I'm hearing some ballade 4 here
Gorgeous GODowsky....!
OMG thank you
Hi, thank you so much, it is really hard to find good recordings of those Studies. Just one thing you maybe should precise that Michael Nanasakov is a "virtual pianist" it is actually a computer playing.
I came across it's Alkan recordings on spotify. Pretty exciting to listen to, but yeah impossibly mechanical.
Masterpiece!!!!
Why is it sometimes written "First version" but no second version (for example, №36, 38)? Second versions are lost?
I've been trying to find Robert Henry's study 1 on his website, but still haven't found it. Is it not available anymore?
Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem available anymore, since he used a flash player for his performances and flash is dead now. I still remember how it goes, and I’m thinking to maybe make a recreation audio someday.
wish you luck man
I think the "ossia" measures are funny. Anyone with the technique to play these, is really going to choose an easier option at any point?
I really wanna play the second etude on Op 10 no.1 but it's really hard, way harder than the original one, and I'm left handed.
Following Godowsky’s fingering is crucial for that one. Splitting the measures into bits that you can practice at a time and develop fluidity for will take you a long way too.
@@Varooooooom i'll try one day
Does anyone know where Study number 37 is? I don't see it in the description
Study No.37 was either never written or never published. Regardless, it has never been found. One listing of it, as maintained by Godowsky’s secretary, describes it as “Elegy for left hand alone, in F-sharp minor.”
You can hear some of Godowsky’s incomplete studies here: th-cam.com/video/R7IP2ohqupU/w-d-xo.html
I see, thank you!
It's weird cuz the first one, it's half note chords followed by the very next 16th in a set of 16th notes. But you have to jump to those 16ths which takes time and messes up the sense of them being 1-ee-and-uh. It should sound like * chord-ee-and-uh 2-ee-and-uh etc * but it sounds like * chord (space) 1-ee-and-uh *
There's gotta to be a way to pace is so it sounds more like what's written in the score.
th-cam.com/video/Aro3jggZ7U0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Un3Uxg_gralHjGan
Wow
❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️🎶❤️
i love you
Question- where do you find the recordings?
I found all of these recordings on TH-cam.
The one exception would be Robert Henry’s recording of Study No.42, which I recorded from his website several years ago. It’s not available on his site anymore because he used a flash player to play MP3 files, and flash was discontinued on most internet browsers.
Also, I will say, if Hamelin’s recordings weren’t so heavily restricted by Hyperion’s copyright, I would’ve used more of his performances as well
I have yet to find music more difficult than this.
Where can I get the scores for these etudes?
imslp.org/wiki/Studies_after_Frederic_Chopin_(Godowsky%2C_Leopold)
Imslp
Is number 37 missing?
Yes. Recent discoveries show that Godowsky had apparently either written or had a plan to write Study No.37 based on Etude Op.25 No.7. It would have been LH alone, in F-sharp minor, and subtitled “Elegie”. However, we don’t know if the manuscript was ever written. If it was, it’s probably lost.
I mention recent discoveries because for a while people speculated that he didn’t write a study, since the original etude is already so LH-heavy.
How do these 53 pieces rank in terms of difficulty? What are the top 5 most difficult to play?
That’s entirely subjective lol
It doesn’t have to be. If everyone in the comment section can rank the pieces by difficulty, then we can take the average ranking for each piece and treat that as our gold standard difficulty rating. Assuming the people in the comment section are a representative sample of piano players in the real world, then we have turned the subjective into objective.
@@cl4157 That’s not exactly how subjectivity/objectivity works lol. Even if everyone in existence agreed that a certain flavor of ice cream tastes good, that is still a subjective opinion. An objective statement is a hard, cold truth that can be proven like “There are 2 bowls of ice cream in front of me.” You can throw nuance in there if you wanna be nitpicky, but you get my point.
That being said, while I don’t really know which studies I’d consider most difficult, I would argue that the easiest ones (i.e. the ones I was able to learn lol) are No.13, 22, and 43.
Stanhope has talked about 6:55, 1:01:34, and 2:14:54 (Ignus Fatuus, 10/10, 25/10) as being particularly difficult, but I don't know if he considers them the hardest.
And yeah these are definitely subjective since they cover so much. As difficult as the godowsky winter wind is, it has a lot of patterns that help, but again it's all subjective
@@Varooooooom yea, but if u were to give a quick generalization u could prob just say that ignus fatuus and the thirds study would be the hardest ones.
6:55
14:02
16:39
20:19
22:51
1:12:31
5:47 How is that possible? At the part where there's 4 bar lines, there's 12 notes being played at once🤔
(Edit: I mean 4 staffs not bar lines)
Not sure what you're talking about 😯There are at most 3 notes being played at once in the screen-cap you directed towards.
@@TheExarion How are there only 3 notes being played at once when there's 4 staffs playing 3 notes at the same time? 🎶
Is it optional? Like, you can choose which of the three staffs you play, and the small one is another way to play the bottom staff? 🎼🤔
@@drdandan6128 I think you might have misinterpreted the sheet music. Piano music doesn't always need a grand staff (i.e. a treble clef and a bass clef). Sometimes it only needs 1 simple staff. A great example of this is Liszt's S.141 No.4, based on Paganini's Violin Caprice No.1. He only uses 1 staff even though both hands are playing.
So when you're reading the music that starts at 5:12, you're only supposed to read 1 staff at a time, line by line. So at 5:37, the music plays the top staff. At 5:40, the music plays the middle staff. At 5:43, the music plays the bottom staff. There is a another small staff on the bottom staff, and you're correct in interpreting that that is indeed another way to play the bottom staff! Hope this helped haha
@@TheExarion Oooohhh okay, ty for the explanation!
@The Darkstalker Yes, the smaller bar is an ossia aka an alternative way to play the music
One can warmup on Chopin's original etudes, then move on to the Godowsky versions. lol I suspect this would have made Chopin laugh.
Op 25 no 11 was probably the hardest/craziest
What is with №37?
No.37 would’ve been on Op.25 No.7, which is already intensive on left hand technique. There’s evidence that Godowsky wrote a version of this etude for left hand alone, but regardless, it is lost.
You can look up my video on the “Godowsky Incomplete Studies” and look at the comments for more info about the studies that didn’t make it into the published set.
😯
I thought Chopin's etudes couldn't possibly get any harder and I laughed after watching this - the first one is like a Etude-Russian Scale on steroids - it's so difficult, it's almost violent
1:26:45
Robin Godowski?
These are not "sacrilegious" nor are they "tampering" - they are simply a reflection of virtuoso-kultur. It would be pointless to include Vlad's performances of a few of these, since he's in a league by himself....Not surprisingly though, Bolet's is the most-musical performances here, in their clarity, and understanding of Chopin's musical thoughts. If a few of Godowski's performances were included here, it would be apparent that he, and Bolet, are on quite an elevated pinnacle of virtuosity.. However, as Godowsky made clear, these transcriptions are not an improvement on Chopin, but a continuation of the 19th cent gradus-ad-parnassum concept wherein technique was supreme (and technique was the aesthetic!)... These are and have always been a refinement of that virtuoso-concept ... Here's a question for those who admire Godowsky's school: what else did these pianists play, and how musical was their work outside the realm of virtuosity? ....easy to answer in the case of Bolet, at least...
Vlad?
Also these are not meant to be an improvement of Chopin’s etudes, which Godowsky very clearly states himself in the prefatory remarks of his studies. And regarding these as solely showpieces means you haven’t given them enough attention, sorry to say.
@@Varooooooom Good points. I revised.......... Vlad= Horowitz ...
@@sdorr I have to ask… Where can one find Horowitz perform Chopin-Godowsky?
You forgot the assistant to Godowsky, David Saperton....
@@TheExarion i am as interested as you. unfortunately it seems as if these recordings are either fictional, kept from the public or detained by a few individuals at most.
sound quite familiar here
12:30 어디서 듣던건데 기억이안나니..
원곡말고 다른 곡에서요?
@@CuteBaneling 아 피곤해서 뭔지도 모르고 들었는데 쇼팽이네요..ㅋㅋ
아무래도 공연가서 들어봤을듯..ㅎㅎ
op 25 no 6 with left hand 🥲
Add the Godowsky colleague David Saperton !
I would’ve loveddd to use one of his audios, but unfortunately the quality of his recordings aren’t the best :(
Wish 32b was also in this. Nevertheless, momentally great job.
32b?
@@TheExarionnvm, the part i meant is included in 32
52:20 feels like the dog got rabies then went on rampage, feverish scouring ravaging hunt before the ex-owner finally shot him down after tracking him down, ending this episode with a heavy yet relieved heart
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Dear Leopold: One question.... WHY?
Obviously not the beginner book. Ouch!
What someone(also with slow tempo in moonlightsonata 3rd)by misunderstanding of Chopins 'fast tempo',that it is not at all so fast almost slow,almost like a great revolution in opposite direction
Извините за опечатку: препарировать
쇼팽에튀드에 저런요소가 내포되어있다는것이...;;
Is a my korean
People and pianists who condemn Godowsky etudes are idiots. They don t realize that these Godowsky etudes are HIS etudes and therefore are HIS piano piece compositions, and whenever a pianist would learn listen or interpert Godowsky etudes he should only think and focus on this Russian composer and compositions. In other words these pieces have nothing to do with Chopin, and Godowsky was higlhy admiring Chopin he would probably say "I wasn t gonna try to substitute Chopin with my arrangments, these were just fun experiments based on what I feel about piano music.
theyre remixes :))))
Как бы вы посмотрели на то, что художники начали наносить на холст свои представления о картинах великих , преперировать их и выставлять свои представления публике?🤔
They should feel free to do that lol. On TH-cam alone, there are many people who have reimagined classic paintings in many unique ways. If the method used to rework an existing painting is truly imaginative and innovative, I can imagine the reworking belonging in a museum.
Haha that first one so funny
If the sound of bullets firing could be as pleasant as a piano,
there will be no more wars in the world.
고도프스키 왼손잡이였나
No, he was crazy
At first reading the scores , it seems impossible to play . Amazing that some pianists can play those pieces... In my opinion, obviously a gain in virtuosity, but a loss in musicality ( even if it's done in a extreme clever way).
Treat it as variations and don’t compare with the original.
Many of them are IMO really musically nice though, I would argue even more so than the originals
이거 전곡 안 끊고 한 번에 칠 수 있는 사람이 전 세계에 있을까...
Francesco Libetta has performed all of the studies in concerts from memory.
They’re interesting and ingenious arrangements, but I don’t see the point of making these etudes even harder than the originals. And they do seem a bit “notey” and over the top. I would much hear the Etudes as written by Chopin, which are far more interesting and ingenious than these arrangements.
You can read Godowsky’s intentions with these studies at the beginning of their corresponding PDFs. It should at least be apparent that all of these studies aim to enhance the technical capabilities of the left hand (whereas most of the Chopin etudes do not particularly favor the left hand).
Studies like the left hand alone version of Op.25 No.4 even showcase the textural possibilities that one hand can achieve. And many of these studies don’t necessarily strive for technical prowess; a lot of them take Chopin’s ideas and transform them musically, e.g. the tarantella on Op.10/5, the nocturne on Op.10/7, the polonaise on Op.25/4, the mazurka on Op.25/5, the theme & variations on Nouvelle No.2, etc. Whether or not you see the point in their musicality or existence, Godowsky clearly had a purpose for crafting these and was abundant with ideas on how to stylistically and pianistically explore Chopin’s etudes. I hope you get a chance to read his prefatory remarks on these studies, because he explains their purpose infinitely better than I can.
It's funny how Godowsky didn't write any Étude for Op.25 No.7, one of the most difficult studies (probably the most difficult)
He did, but it’s believed that the manuscript for it was lost. Apparently it would’ve been in F-sharp minor, left hand alone, and subtitled “Elegy”.
@@Varooooooom Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks.
Por qué le habrá puesto arpejios.a la #. 6 ?
Pourquoi faire mieux que Chopin ?
He wasn’t trying to do “better” than Chopin.
Interesting, nice but it is not necessary to play well the piano but to get injured if you try to study wrong.
創意工夫し技巧的には素晴らしいが、
音楽的にはいじりすぎてショパンに敵わない。😅
てか、ショパンのエチュードはいじる必要がない完成された芸術なのだ。😊
Mozarts musiciandad,Chopins mampianoteacher,sisterpianoteacher
,Elsnerprofessorpiano,but in school usually it is filled by punches,lowculture,lowenergy,
manipulations that take away genius rather than protect.Menuhin said that they in violincollege said "play,so pupil become confused
anipulations
???
Interesting, but I think none of these studies exceeds Chopin’s originals.
they’re not meant to
They are simply an extension.
Shouldn't have included Michael Nanasakov as it's not an actual pianist.
I’m more concerned about the quality of the music.
@@TheExarionYeah, that's the point. Impressive for a software but nonetheless artificial. There's also something to be said about the lack of the human achievement in regards to the enjoyment of the listener. Do you get the same level of appreciation for a recording of a left hand piece if you know the pianist used both hands? I think not.
@@KALSAFilms Appreciation for a recording? No. However, do I enjoy the music better in this case? Yes. Seems like you missed the point.
If someone wants human recordings of the studies, there are quite a few out there. There are PLENTY of other actual pianists featured in this video. I think I've done my due diligence.
RachmaninoffLisztChopinetyds becomes Godofskijimprovement
He’s just taking the etudes and putting them in the left hand😭
It’s horrifying😭😭😭😭😭😭
Omg, even an original op 25 no 11 is a disaster to play. But THIS "study" is a lot worse
Downvote for including Nansakov. It's not a human.
ok