Bortkiewicz All Etudes Complete, (Various recordings)

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  • Sergei Bortkiewicz, all etudes
    12 Etudes Nouvelles op 29
    0:00- I. La blonde/ The blonde, pianist Jouni Somero
    1:35- II. La rousse/ The redhead, pianist Jouni Somero
    3:26- III. La brune/ The brunette, pianist Cyprien Katsaris
    5:12- IV. Le philosophe/ The philosopher, pianist Jouni Somero
    9:24- V. Le poéte, pour la main gauche saule/ Poet (Left hand alone), pianist Jouni Somero
    15:50- VI. Le Héros/ The hero, pianist Cyprien Katraris
    17:21- VII. Le mystérieux inconnu/ The mystreious stranger, pianist Jouni Somero
    19:01- VIII. Le jongleur/ The juggler, pianist Jouni Somero
    21:00- IX. Celuiqui aime au clair de la lune. Etude du tremolo / The lover in the moonlight, pianist Jouni Somero
    27:31- X. Don Quichotte, pianist Jouni Somero
    29:30- XI. Hamlet, pianist Jouni Somero
    34:34- XII Falstaff, pianist Jouni Somero
    10 Etudes Op 15
    36:55- I. Etude op 15 no 1, pianist Cyprien Katsaris
    38:26- II. Etude op 15 no 2, pianist Klaas Trapman
    42:00- III. Etude op 15 no 3, pianist Jouni Somero
    44:01- IV. Etude op 15 no 4, pianist Jouni Somero
    46:46- V. Etude op 15 no 5, pianist Jouni Somero
    48:55- VI. Etude op 15 no 6, pianist Cyprien Katsaris
    53:26- VII. Etude op 15 no 7, pianist Cyprien Katsaris
    54:55- VIII. Etude op 15 no 8, pianist Moriz Rosenthal, (most unique recording in set)***
    59:26- IX. Etude op 15 no 9, pianist Klaas Trapman
    1:00:53- X. Etude op 15 no 10, pianist Jouni Somero
    Other etudes,
    3 Morceaux op 65
    1:02:52- Etude op 65 no 2 in E minor, pianist Klaas Trapman
    4 Morceaux op 3
    1:04:46- Etude op 3 no 2 in F sharp major, pianist Klaas Trapman
    Impressions for piano, op 4
    1:10:13- Etude d'oisseux (Bird's Study) op 4 no 2 in B flat major, pianist Klaas Trapman
    3 Morceaux op 6
    1:11:40- Etude op 6 no 3 in C major, Klaas Trapman
    4 Pieces op 10
    1:13:53- Etude (Fontaine Lumineuse) op 10 no 3 in A major, pianist Jouni Somero
    1:18:47- Etude op 10 no 4 in E flat major, pianist Klaas Trapman
    Sergei Eduardovich Bortkiewicz was born in Kharkov, Russian Empire (today Kharkiv, Ukraine) on 28 February 1877 belonging noble Polish aristocrats family. Bortkiewicz received his musical training from Anatoly Lyadov and Karl von Arek at the Imperial Conservatory of Music in Saint Petersburg.
    In 1900 he left Saint Petersburg and travelled to Leipzig, where he became a student of Alfred Reisenauer and Salomon Jadassohn, both pupils of Franz Liszt. In July 1902, Bortkiewicz completed his studies at the Leipzig Conservatory and was awarded the Schumann Prize on graduation. On his return to the Russian Empire in 1904, he married Elisabeth Geraklitowa, a friend of his sister, and then returned to Germany, where he settled in Berlin. It was there that he started to compose seriously.
    The composer, who was very unfortunately affected by the devastating effects of two great wars, remained one of the last representatives of Russian romantic music.
    Bortkiewicz's style was influenced by Franz Liszt, Frédéric Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Sergei Rachmaninoff, early Scriabin, Wagner, sometimes a bit impressionistic and Ukrainian folklore.
    (from wikipedia)
    Note, Moriz Rosenthal recording is star of this set. So thanks for the sparkle1272001!!
    This video took me a month... But anyway enjoy!
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  • @789armstrong
    @789armstrong 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Someday these masterpieces will be standard repertoire.

  • @SCRIABINIST
    @SCRIABINIST ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Underrated composer

  • @emilyhutjes
    @emilyhutjes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love everything Mr. Bortkiewicz composed. Time to wake up all concert halls and pianists to this great composer. 🌷🌷🌷(Netherlands)

  • @andrebourgeoiset2345
    @andrebourgeoiset2345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Un grand merci pour cette somme qui me fait connaître un maître du piano que j'ignorais

  • @jodalton1929
    @jodalton1929 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Op.29 no.4 The philosopher reminds me so much of the act 3 prelude from Wagner's Mastersigners !

  • @willcwhite
    @willcwhite 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Fantastic stuff. Never heard anything by this composer before - what an introduction!

  • @ktaichiissuperhypedrightnow
    @ktaichiissuperhypedrightnow ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A composer lived more than a century ago is doing TH-cam and uploading a video of etude by a composer of succeeding age. The time setting of the world gone crazy

  • @Teemu_V
    @Teemu_V ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Etude op 15 no 4 is written in 7/8 but seems to be played in 3/4 where the third beat is like a triplet. Interesting.

    • @nikitalvov40
      @nikitalvov40 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Most of the interpretations in this video are pretty lackluster.
      Kind of dissapointing...

    • @j.thomas1420
      @j.thomas1420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, it's not meant to be played like that...

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@nikitalvov40 I see, your criticism is justified. But unfortunately I did not have records of names like Cortot, Moisewitsch, Richter or something else with old masters. So, I don't have many options. The reason is that Bortkiewicz is a forgotten composer. There are few people who perform piano pieces except him concertos. For example, op 15-8, a very important recording, may be the only Bortkiewicz piece played by a goat of pianiszm. Katsaris is fine too. But for other recordings, the criticism is quite reasonable.

    • @matswessling6600
      @matswessling6600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fredericfrancoischopin6971 Why would you need? just play the ink...

    • @pablofeynman3619
      @pablofeynman3619 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nikitalvov40How about you play it then ?

  • @jonasdaverio9369
    @jonasdaverio9369 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, Chopin's actually got a TH-cam channel! What time we live in!

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What can I say? I decided to get up from my grave, listen new era and make this damn videos :P

    • @jonasdaverio9369
      @jonasdaverio9369 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fredericfrancoischopin6971 Please compose again

    • @CarmenReyes-em9np
      @CarmenReyes-em9np ปีที่แล้ว

      No entiendo 🇮🇷🖐️

    • @CarmenReyes-em9np
      @CarmenReyes-em9np ปีที่แล้ว

      😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

  • @baruchspinoza9495
    @baruchspinoza9495 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Magnificent!

  • @arseniyaronov8119
    @arseniyaronov8119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Les pièces "la philosophe" et "le poéte" sont absolument étonnants!👏La fugue dans le premier morceau est très sombre et sophistiqué, je l'aime.👍"Le poéte" est trés beau et lyrique, un peu impressionniste. Très bien

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Content que tu aies aimé! Mes favoris incluent également "philosophe" et "poème"

  • @ulengrau6357
    @ulengrau6357 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The first to create actually "new" etudes after Chopin and Liszt was Debussy, and then Ligeti. It must've been so hard to compose etudes without copying the masters. Even Scriabin and Rachmaninoff couldn't help it.

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I think you can add Bortkiewicz to that copying list. But if I may add, Scriabin was actually quite innovative with his last 3 etudes op 65. Although it does not make a set as much as Debussy, I think these are quite interesting and diffucult "new" etudes.

    • @ulengrau6357
      @ulengrau6357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fredericfrancoischopin6971 That is very true about Scriabin. Once he found his Theosophic crowd, he became obsessively preoccupied with his so-called "mystic chord", and with different rhythmic structures. Although I would say that both Beethoven and Schumann beat him, in terms of rhythmic innovations... or just plain old rhythmic notation (in the case of Schumann).

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Alkan's etudes are quite original.

    • @ulengrau6357
      @ulengrau6357 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calebhu6383 They are very special indeed. And hard af

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@calebhu6383 Syzmanowski too

  • @Serkin76
    @Serkin76 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You deserve Nobel prize for this uploading! Thank you so much.

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great set of etudes! thanks for the share :)

  • @erikfreitas7093
    @erikfreitas7093 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Many thanks for putting this video together! 🎶

  • @IAyala1010
    @IAyala1010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally a video played as an “up next” and it was this channel

  • @iBharat108
    @iBharat108 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bravo for your recollection work of this forgotten composer. 🙂

    • @knownfact4905
      @knownfact4905 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's not entirely forgotten -- WMNR in CT plays his wonderful concertos!

  • @lockjiang
    @lockjiang 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how did I come to this so late, I've been practicing his etudes and preludes but didn't know this exited. this is a great collection.

  • @briansunday7099
    @briansunday7099 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find Bortkiewicz absolutely delightful. The one etude in c# minor was clearly written under the influence of Henselt (op. 2, no.1). This doesn’t surprise me - Rachmaninov is said to have played the Henselt etudes - again, no surprise as he was a pupil of Zverev - himself a pupil of Henselt. I have been working on some of his Preludes, op. 33 - I find his works tend to fit my hand well.

  • @bashirabdel-fattah9499
    @bashirabdel-fattah9499 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lol, the exposition of the etude at 1:13:53 sounds like Debussy Arabesque 1 on steroids

    • @jasonng0211
      @jasonng0211 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Já, und ikzáklu❤

  • @Dichweed
    @Dichweed 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only a few of these pieces are worthy of listening.

  • @kedimy
    @kedimy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for your time and hard work in making this interesting video. K.

  • @annaedelwisnovgorod
    @annaedelwisnovgorod ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Шедевр! Спасибо за гениальное исполнение! 🎼💐🌹🌺❤️

  • @paolofranceschi6874
    @paolofranceschi6874 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks a lot. Very interesting works! 💚💜🩵💙💚

  • @kallehed6330
    @kallehed6330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very entertaining video! Funny pieces

  • @fredericscriabinoff7612
    @fredericscriabinoff7612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    21:03 55:04 Mystic chords!❤❤❤

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More like whole tone chords but yeah imperessionistic

    • @fredericscriabinoff7612
      @fredericscriabinoff7612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fredericfrancoischopin6971but the first case has perfect fourths. In a whole tone chord you can't have perfect fourths, but augmented(tritones). Even in the third bar you can see that the only missing note is F# to make Scriabin's mystic chord in it's main form. The second case it's a little bit more complex because the notes are organized differently. They are organized like the last bar of Scriabin's op.57 "Desir"

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fredericscriabinoff7612 Oh, I see now, Yeah Desir very similar. My bad!

    • @fredericscriabinoff7612
      @fredericscriabinoff7612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fredericfrancoischopin6971Dw😊. And thank you so much for sharing this music with us❤❤❤

  • @elenafiordaliso2072
    @elenafiordaliso2072 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grande🎹❤️

  • @k-ta251
    @k-ta251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for uploading this today I met a new music that makes my life more beautiful

  • @user-sn3vl3cn6o
    @user-sn3vl3cn6o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Прекрасная подборка!!!

  • @inraid
    @inraid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @vincentlam1984
    @vincentlam1984 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    op15 no4 sounds like Chopin's nouvelle etude no3

  • @10mimu
    @10mimu ปีที่แล้ว

    Op. 29 no. 4 reminds me of the C-sharp minor fugue from WTC I...

  • @davestrickland8378
    @davestrickland8378 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah! Chopin returned from the grave to see what we listen to today. Welcome back: we love your music. I want to take opportunity to ask you if you really did compose the 3rd and 4th Piano Concertos that are kicking about online?

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately, having come to life in the social media world but I cannot compose without my real hands and arms. These are dead...

    • @steveegallo3384
      @steveegallo3384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fredericfrancoischopin6971 -- O My.....Deep and dark musings......BRAVO from Acapulco!

  • @user-yr6nm7gq5p
    @user-yr6nm7gq5p ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:13:53 It's so brillante!!

  • @andrestorres8986
    @andrestorres8986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    29:30 woooooowwwwww

  • @ZeMeatMuncher
    @ZeMeatMuncher 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:04:06 inspiration from Chopin's "Winter Wind" op. 25 n. 11?

  • @tainokreb5200
    @tainokreb5200 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:27 sonata no.2

  • @benharmonics
    @benharmonics ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Rosenthal recording an actual recording, or a piano roll?

  • @oZiinCx
    @oZiinCx ปีที่แล้ว

    No 2 kinda sound like La valse by Ravel in a way

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np ปีที่แล้ว

    Datos de este compositor. ? Me gusta ,no lo conozco. 🇮🇷🖐️🇮🇷

  • @schnabelite
    @schnabelite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:17 Chopin, op.10/1

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      La rousse, chopin's op 10 no 10 similar technique
      La brune, LH position similar chopin 10 no 12 consept
      Beginning of 15-3 etude, similar of chopin op 25 no 8 sixth etude
      15-4 etude, so similar of Chopin's nouvelle etude no 2
      15-5 etude, a bit reminiscent Chopin's wrong note etude
      65-2 etude, main melody reminiscent of chopin's e minor waltz and elements of him Winter wind etude on 1:04:06 and op 25 no 12 Ocean etude on 1:03:23-1:03:40
      Fontaine luminause etude, Lh position similar of Chopin's beginning andante spianoto and grande polonaise

    • @-.a
      @-.a ปีที่แล้ว

      CHOPIN IS WHEN ARPEGGIO

    • @composerjalen
      @composerjalen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-.a it's the harmony that mirrors Chopin, not the arpeggio

  • @JeremyDuckMusic
    @JeremyDuckMusic ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Op. 15 No. 4 is just the wrong rhythm. The pianist is playing it in 3/4 instead of 7/8.

    • @pineapple7024
      @pineapple7024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It kinda directly clashes with the way it’s notated. Time signature says 7/8, notes are still separated into a set of 4 and 3. All 8ths should be connected by one bar… You’re right, but the composer or whoever wrote the sheet music probably should’ve not made it like that

    • @matswessling6600
      @matswessling6600 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@pineapple7024 there is nothibg with the notation. its 4/8+3/8

    • @enkarakas
      @enkarakas ปีที่แล้ว +8

      4+3 graphic grouping is fine, but the execution is wrong, I agree with jeremy

    •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly, it becomes very dull in 7/8.

    • @popadopalis4480
      @popadopalis4480 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I noticed that too. Maybe it's intentional by them to have that end of measure "lilt," but if it's not, then idk how a pianist can take the immense amount of effort to learn a piece like it and not realize something so simple

  • @ChristovanRensburg
    @ChristovanRensburg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somero plays the rhythm in Op. 15 no. 4 completely wrong. Instead of a duplet against straight quavers in the right hand he plays straight quavers in the left hand with a triplet against it, turning it into 3/4 instead of 7/8!

  • @OuaghlaniAlaa
    @OuaghlaniAlaa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:18:47 Chopin opus 10 no.10

  • @PaulSmith-qs1es
    @PaulSmith-qs1es ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I don't think the first one is played very well. The whole point of the etude appears to be making those melody notes stand out in the triplets when they are the second note of the triplet, but here they are played with the same force as all the other notes of the triplet.

    • @j.thomas1420
      @j.thomas1420 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, it's not very subtil, the result is quite messy.

  • @Alkadondon
    @Alkadondon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    21:01

  • @seulkishin4935
    @seulkishin4935 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:02:52

  • @TheodoreNelsonBedford
    @TheodoreNelsonBedford 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    53:26

  • @DavitMinasyan-rn3fv
    @DavitMinasyan-rn3fv ปีที่แล้ว

    n.7 sounds like scriabin

  • @corvanha1
    @corvanha1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He will stay forgotten

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont think so. He is surprisingly more familiar to viewers than some other composers. At least i will continue uploading bortkiewicz :))

    • @corvanha1
      @corvanha1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fredericfrancoischopin6971No objection. To me it sounds like a strange hodgepodge of influences but better to enjoy than Reger.

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude that reger roasting was crazy
      Your roasting gave me idea for uploading reger early

    • @corvanha1
      @corvanha1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cynic

  • @tomassokol8460
    @tomassokol8460 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Under-rated composer, indeed.
    Some very good pieces of piano. Katsaris is excellent, Somero..is not bad...but I don't agree with M. Trapman playing... No respect of tempo nor musical nuances. He seem to be in a hurry... and having the last train of the day to catch !
    Etude op 15 no 2 is quite a disaster/massacre for a piece noticed as "lugubre".
    Nevertheless, thanks for this complilation.

    • @fredericfrancoischopin6971
      @fredericfrancoischopin6971  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First of all thank you for your comment.
      I totally agree with your "Bortkiewicz is underrated" comment. Because of that, Very few pianists perform Bortkiewicz. So I didn't have many options. Rosenthal performing 15-8 is therefore valuable
      Unfortunately Katsaris did not record all studies, only 29 -1, 29-2, 29-3, 29-5, 29-6, 15-1, 15-6, 15-7, 15-8, 15-9, 15-10 and op 65 no 2 recorded. I could choose Katsaris from all of these here, but I can say that my taste is a bit mixed here. For example, in 29-5 La poete, I choose somero because I like bit slower. For the same reason, so are 29-1 and 29-2, these Katsaris were playing pretty fast. 15-9 was one of the records where I was most undecided, frankly, I took advice here. In 15-10, however, Somero's forte sounded more appropriate to the this piece.
      The reason for the selection of the Trapman's recordings was a little bit of tempo, especially other etudes outside of op 29 and op 15. The record of 15-2 was only present in somero and trapman, Somero generally keeps the tempo slow, here I liked Trapman's tempo somewhat more. But after I posted this video, I regretted it. I thought that I made the wrong choice in terms of speed, your criticisms are also appropriate in this regard. Somero was the more preferable option. But after publishing, I didn't have time to re-edit it because I deleted all the videos that were made. Same regret happened a bit in Op 65 no 2, Katsaris was a better option for that.
      As for the other recordings, apart from 65-2, "other etudes" were also present in somero and trapman. I had planned to put in Koji's recordings, but clearing the encore audio was not easy. Somero's playing is not bad as you said, but sometimes it plays more slower than it is and there were points where both played incorrectly, for example, in op 10 no 3, I didn't want to choose Trapman this time because Somero made the fewest mistakes of the them but In others, again, my preferences were in this direction due to the tendency of the Klaas's tempo issue to my ears. Sometimes it was difficult to choose between two different recordings, and The video's catching up, the selected selections were a bit rushed. Anyway Thanks again for liking. Cheers!

    • @tomassokol8460
      @tomassokol8460 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fredericfrancoischopin6971 You are right. Building a compilation is difficult, particularly when very few pianists have registred Bortkiewicz' Piano Work.
      Most of all, there is no objectivity when speaking about music recording and players.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can assure you that Trapman was not in a hurry to catch a train. Instead, he had eaten something really bad before the concert and was feeling the ever mounting looming inevitable event of shitting in his pants right in the middle of performance. The good news is that he actually made it to the toilet, with only minor stains in his underwear. The audience didn't notice.

  • @ConcordMass
    @ConcordMass ปีที่แล้ว

    hamlet sounds so much like liszt stabat matar

  • @skillbomb8823
    @skillbomb8823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His playing is quite sloppy.

  • @saulaguilar5650
    @saulaguilar5650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad

  • @romadamasco
    @romadamasco 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boring, but ok.

    • @benjaminsawyer1292
      @benjaminsawyer1292 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nothing is boring about these pieces. There is a lot of variety of material and contrasts here that is very interesting and not boring at all. It has definitely kept my attention.