This Is What Happened When I Installed The Cheapest Ebay Turbo I Could Find For My Diesel Truck!
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Get this video to 5000 like and I will straight pipe this thing!
Hey could you do something different and buy a project truck like a 5.4L Gasser, and build it I am building my 5.4L and your videos make it easy to understand Im struggling I want to put a Turbo into it, and a bigger cam but I am not that smart with this stuff!
Straight pipe it for certain
What ever you’re going to do it anyway. No 5K needed 😂
OK Josh there is a solenoid on the driver side that controls the waste gate on the turbos . Then there are 2 plastic lines from solenoid to the turbos waste gate check the line's they do rub through on anything they touch. Then check if there's is vacuum at the solenoid if not then check the vacuum pump it's on the passenger side front on the motor.
Is your trailer a 25ft or 30ft?
Build the 6.5 build the 6.5! Old school build would be sweet!
I think if he is going to build one it should be in a surplus HMMWV
Those old 6.5’s are turds…..swap in a duramax…or even a Lq4 at this point…..correction, that truvk is a p.o.s. And basically needs to just be ran into the ground as is!!! Just continue to make videos with it!!
Hard to build those they're junk
@@trentdawg2832 the 92-93 6.5l with mechanical injection pump were fantastic motors. the PMDs is what gave them their reputation.
The Ole rattle trap will always smoke but a set of injectors wouldn't hurt.
bro get a set of marine le pen injectors from accuratediesel
Just build the truck, brotha. You know you want to. We know you want to. We want you to. It will be awesome!
Can get a cheap boost gauge to see if you're actually making any boost. Vaccum pump is probably pooched. Could always wire the wastegate open to test.
As a 6.5 and LB7 owner, I think I might know the issue. Delete that vacuum pump on the front of the engine and make the wastegate manually controlled with a spring, just-hook, and a wing nut. It seems like the vacuum pump is crapping out and making it not close the waste gate
Maybe but watching the speedo in this video the fucker runs pretty good. Can’t ask for much more out of 6.5 at least in my experience
@@Ageman6058 it seems to be slow compared to mine. And all I have done on my 6.5 is the wastegate vacuum pump delete and the spring set to 10 psi
@@bignix23my 6.5 moves pretty quickly because of the weight of it being a 2wd 1/2 ton the truck is completely stock
@@connorbrandt3207 mine is a 4x4 3/4 ton single cab that moves about 3/4 of the speed my CCLB 4x4 LB7 moves, so not too slow
I’ve heard that’s an issue on these. Had a friend that owned one, & he was talking abt that exact issue.
More black smoke means too much fuel. Either someone turned up the fuel or air starvation.
A 4 inch straight pipe would be really cool also make her whistle! Great video
Get a 4in exhaust. 6.5s are notorious for having too small of a exhaust from the factory
Do a collab with Heath diesel. They are the 6.5 pros. When I owned one, the heath diesel was the definitive choice
My dad bought his new in 98, after his passing I got the pickup. All 8 injectors was replaced and the turbo. It did whistle perfectly upon spooling up. I removed the huge muffler to a straight pipe and it really sounded excellent, and the only time it smoked was when I put my foot in it. Only real issue I had was the keepers on the valve would snap loose on the head.
To help with the smoke and just better driving experience take the vacuum wastegate off and put a manual 10 lb spring there are a few videos on doing that I believe Jesse pelkey here on TH-cam has a video on doing a manual wastegate
I’ve owned a couple of these 6.5 trucks and I think what’s going on is you need to delete the vacuum pump and make a manual waste gate spring. It will also help your turbo noise a lot by putting a manual spring on the waste gate
I could listen to that engine idle all day
My 8 year old was given a 98 6.5 that needs a lot of work. It will be a big project but hopefully has a cool truck to drive when he is old enough.
Mine 9 year old son has a 98 5.7 rust free
@MrRod632 heck yeah that's awesome
I owned a 94 6.5 turbo. I miss it. I’m glad you finally got one. I messaged you about getting one a few years ago, maybe you finally saw it. Stick a 6v53 in it. That was my dream.
Follow the vacuum line from the waste gate it goes to a little vacuum controller valve thing that likes to go bad or leak and cause a no boost situation
Throw a set of marine fuel injectors in it. Should be able to get a set pretty cheap and they supposedly add 40 horsepower, and it might fix the black smoke issue.
6.5 injectors are mechanical. There’s no horsepower increase unless you up the injection pump output
@@joelaidler I’m pretty sure that the different fuel injectors they make for these mostly help atomize the fuel better so they can help increase power, but it mostly comes into play if you either crank up the fuel or tune it depending on if you have a mechanical pump or not
@@joelaidlerthe early 6.5’s were, I think they came out in 92, the 92-94 were mechanical pumps, the 95-2000 were electronic cause the pmd is notoriously problematic
@@Derek-C that’s right. The only differences between the two are the spray patterns and the pop pressure. However, there’s no increase in fuel output so no power gain.
I have been wrenching on 6.5s since I was a wee lad. I have never actually done any turbo or exhaust mods (surprisingly enough. Haha) Now is as good a time as ever! I have a PT Wiring Solutions HX40ii and a diamond eye 4" exhuast ready to go in!
Thanks for the video man glad to see a ol 6.5 get some love. I would check the timing on the pump could be out of time and killing hp and making g it smoke more.
People put down the 6.5. It has design issues that are not its fault. I have a customer who has a 6.5 that has its issues fixed and some upgrades. It is stronger than an LLY Duramax.
Nah
put down the rock man. Not even in the same league as an lb7, let alone newer duramax engine series.
Bahahaha.... Dude, seriously that's absolutely not possible. The defects are literally cast into the block webbing. Absolutely ANY consistent working of a forced air induction 6.5L will result in coolant in oil usually by the 160,000km mark. As a Factory Trained, Red Seal, Gold Grand Master GM Technician who earned his stripes during the hay day of the 6.5 and subsequent 6.6 introduction, I think i can safely say I'm an expert on this subject.
Are not it’s fault? You’re talkin like it’s a puppy up for adoption 😂
This is 100% what I wanted to see. I subscribe and hit the button. Awesome video cheers 🍻
Could be a few things on the 6.5L. A lot of times it was the wastegate control solenoid and the boost sensor. I’ve had it plenty of times too where the vacuum pump itself is bad. Yes you could delete the belt driven vacuum pump but then you’d lose your heater position controls unless you wired in an electric vacuum pump since those operate off vacuum.
Aside from that vacuum controller thing off the waste gate line to look for for the boost issue, you can buy a potentiometer and put it inline with the map sensor signal wire and it works as a boost fooler for those things. It has to be a 0-10,000 ohm potentiometer or something tho if I’m remembering right. Can find it online how to do it it’s super easy
Crazy thing to me is my girl friends Dodge just like that broke down same way so I listened for the fuel pump it was working or so I thought lol after checking all fuses and swapping few parts off a parts truck I had laying around I thought let me see how much pressure fuel pump is putting out because it would start if you turned the key 3 times fast then crank it fire for 2 seconds bearing any pressure eventually went to 0 psi slapped new pump it was ready to go also do straight pipe on the 6.5
Love the budget truck I definitely think you should do more with it. I have an old one like this. And it'd be nice to see what I could do with it.
I was looking up the dealer instructions for doing valve covers, in there for that intake boot i believe they mentioned that the silicone was factory, mine had the same gray silicone sealant gooped in.
It looks like an S10 sitting next to the red truck 😁
Absolutely does lol
That's a pretty decent OBS 1-ton single axle. Not to common to see one looking tight and right these days. I'm glad that your giving it a one up and keeping it alive.
Just doing a Boost gauge, Turbo master, diamond eye 4" exhaust and crossover pipe will really make a difference. You WILL hear the turbo then. The stock exhaust won't let it breathe and holds a lot of heat. As for the black smoke, check your waste gate solenoid. Follow vacuum line from waste gate back to driver's side of engine . Line may also be cracked and waste gate may not be working. Build it.
If you pull the intake and cut out the plenum plate and add the wicked wheel 2 ;you’ll get more air and less smoke, FSD cool and change the resistor in the fsd to a higher # you’ll add a little more power.
The vacuum pump or vacuum actuator is dead. You need to buy/build a turbo master wastegate controller and set it to 12psi.
Honestly knowing the 6.5, probably the vacuum pump. More than likely someone let the oil go dry in the pump and is now bad. You could either replace it, or like a lot a 6.5 guys do is run the manual wastegate spring setup. Manual wastegate is definitely not fuel friendly though.
Hey truck master, love the videos keep up the great work!
Wicked wheel ii and 5" straight pipe!
4in straight pipe definitely! My dad had a 97 6.5 with 4in and it sounded amazing!
Nice to see someone local to me! Jackson MI here!
You should do a single stack right behind the cab. I had one on my 6.2. I did 2 and 3/4 straight back to the box then into a 5 inch stack and it sounded really sweet lol. I’d highly recommend it but you don’t seem to listen to your suggestions like sunkiss. Nobody said orange in the comments but it’s your truck man you do you.
Coal is an indicator of lack of air. and too much fuel. I would be looking over your intake system, check for leaks/torn boots/loose clamps. If that is good, verify injectors aren't leaking down(puddling/dripping). Setup a camera, pull the injectors with the lines still attached and crank it over. Watch the spray patterns.
For the 6.5. I’d get some cheap fenders and doors for it, do some wheels and a level on it and run it! It’s a cool old classic beater!
There is a belt driven vacuum pump might not be working. Also a solenoid that controls the was waste gate. The lines get brittle and break. Best thing to do to it though is put and Manuel waste gat on it
Yes straight pipe and cold air
Get ahold of the A/C Delco injector cleaner... it may need some injectors
i might have to keep those events in mind!. i never realized how close to grand rapids you are, its a small world!
I bought my 1995 6.5 TD new. It still has the original turbo with 290,000 miles. I would recommend a manual waste-gate control.
It might be your injectors, if they are clogged or leaking then the truck will smoke, Tuning it will def help the issue and it should be faster and run better. If you really don’t want any smoke, then put a higher flow intake or intake manifold on the truck. You’ll get a bit of power and it’ll burn cleaner. The most likely thing is that your turbo is not big enough, so the truck cannot burn all of that fuel, put a slightly bigger turbo or a compound and you’ll be golden.
Straight pipe, cold air intake and a wicked wheel would get her singing for sure
Heath diesel tunes those 6.5s also the old 6.2 diesel bottom end with the 6.5 top end is the best combo
Had a 94 6.5 a while ago. Thing screamed with a stock turbo. I miss it, and want another at some point. For now, a 2nd gen 24 valve it is.
I’ve always been curious of these being a little bit modded. I’d say put some power to that we’d love it!!!!
Show Ryan your new Turbo, lol. Try running a gallon ? Of injector cleaner through it.. Stickture. They are probably fouled pretty badly. Run a stack up through the bed. Beyond that, maybe you do some tuning on it. Use your electronics and check all the parameters. Then, put a fork in it and call it good. Shop truck.. parts hauler.. loaner.. plow .. winter driver, so your good rigs avoid the salt / deicer...
You gotta crank that wastegate lever, more boost = more power and less smoke.
Sounds like it's due for injectors. Black smoke means excess fuel, the ECU has probably been over-trimming the injectors the entire time because of the turbo being faulty. So you could start by doing a complete ECU reset and re-learn if the truck allows it, but I feel like injector replacement could be the next step. It was running pretty rough on idle when starting up.
I sure hope you used Moparts on that Ram. chrysler products are infamous for needing the OEM electronics even for something as simple as a fuel pump or the computers eat themselves (me, I cause them to leak like a seive!). as for the CK? refresh the lights, drop the plow mount unless you need it, and get some beauty rings or center caps on those wheels. it'd be nice to see something STOCK-ish for once. also, i LIKE the stack idea.
Awesome great video thanks
We need a stack! But only if you are not going to restore the old girl. Maybe a hood stack, then you could film how much it's smoking. Love your content, love the Sunkist. Thanks for all you do.
Do a 15 inch glass pack and Y it out to dual exhaust and you will gain at least two miles per gallon. I had a 1993 inch did that to
I don't have a 6.5 anymore but would love to see a build on one. Miss mine alot 😢
Straight pipe it and put a manual waste gate on it get rid of vacuum pump believe was a 93 in belt on mine after delete then u can dial your desired boost till i think 14 psi then it will go into limp mode without tune
Do a 8” bed stack! I did one on my 1986 6.2 Detroit that I put a turbo on and it sounds awesome!
Dual stacks, one in each front box corner, strait pipe, pipes must be hockey sticks, not just strait up, and also remove the front rack thing.
stacks only work on this truck because its a long box so it makes it look ok
Try some internet injector cleaning remedies. Check your fuel pressure. (random thoughts) Straight stacks, if you can get it running clean. If you get to a point that you're not going to invest to get it running better, don't mess with the exhaust. Looking forward to the Dodge fuel issue.
Full build on the obs pls ❤
It has to be performing better, I would love to see a high flow exhaust (or straight pipe lol) I would think the high flow exhaust will help the turbo spool characteristics in a way that both improves power and the black smoke because the black smoke could be unburnt fuel which increasing the boost a hair should help clear out. The OE exhaust might be clogged up anyway.
My guess is on that green Chevy is the exhaust is full of oil from the leaky turbo so I think you needed the straight pipe it
Id really like to see you redo that 6.5 be a nice truck to have in the garage
Straight pipe it !! To many quiet diesel trucks around 😎
Maybe check the pmd resistor maybe someone put a number 9 resistor in it and you need a number 5 resistors
LOVE 6.5 CONTENT!!
the generic hx35 with the wicked wheel and 10cm housing was the best all around performance and sound. i tried the "super drag" hx40 with 18cm housing and the truck itself was loud as hell since it had minimal drive pressure.
How was the performance with that hx40? I'm installing one with a 16cm2
Add water methanol injection. That’d be interesting to see if it cleans the exhaust up.
Buy some Chinese marine grade injectors for that thing. Cut the webbing out of the intake, delete the vacuum wastegate by cutting vac pot in half. Piece of ready rod bent into a J and washer, springs and wing nuts. Feed the beast mod and a new lift pump. For under 1k you'll have a 6.5 that will surprise people.
It might be tuned you will have to pull the glove box out and yes build it love my 6.5 great daily
I definitely like the engine work videos over the pimp my ride customs videos, both are great, but I appreciate the problem solving of the engine repair.
Since you're the expert, how long should I let my diesel idle when I get somewhere?
Put a wicked wheel on it, A k&N filter, 4 inch stacks and dump a whole bottle of hot shot fuel treatment in the tank, raptor line it and sell it !!! Maybe some newer stock wheels if you have some laying around.
I had a wobble fused to an extension trying to take out 6.5 turbo bolts
Man….. long travel pre runner for the dunes. You are so close to them. I wanna se you send it off test hill!!
Could be a bad vacuum pump it controls the waste gate or just put a spring waste gate on it
could have put in the extra $100 and got a split vane T6 S475 for that old 6.5 ... build a low idle split vane flap n' flange with a cheap waste gate on it. the flap gate closes the back side vane so at idle the turbo spools as if it is a T3 S475, tho opens the second vane when their is forced air going into the engine so it lowers exhaust pressure at that point and can continue spooling higher. I had to make a split vane actuator, couldn't find nor know where to look in the first place as not even google knows what a "T6 vane actuator with waste gate" is.
Nice video 👌
Black smoke is unburnt fuel,oil is usually a white,blue haze
It's an older diesel, the fact it could do a burnout it impressive. I'd take that over the ugly orange truck any day. With a little tlc, it would make a good truck.
Honestly, I would have just swapped to a better turbo. I have a cheap hx40wii turbo that I got from Amazon on my 82 k5 that I swapped a 6.5 in place of the 6.2 and it's so much better than the gm5 turbo I originally had on it.
That being said, usually what is actual bad is the CDR valve, which causes excessive oil in the intake, making it look like a bad turbo. The black smoke could be a bad vacuum pump/vacuum system for the wastegate if it's a 94+ electronic 6.5. That's fairly common.
been waiting for a big creator to do detroit diesel content for a while
What’s boost at? The smoke could be from actually not hitting enough boost to burn the amount of fuel being injected into the engine. That’s just a sign that there’s more fuel there than can be completely combusted. Too much fuel or not enough air is where my thoughts are
Loved my 97 6.5 Turbo! Stack it!!!!
Black smoke is a sign of a fuel issue, white smoke is more inline with an oil burning.
cmon i wanna see a hood stack and a wicked wheel. id settle for a front passenger fender exit exhaust too. do it josh, you know you want to.
I think it'd be awesome to fix this truck up or to improve it. Theirs a ton of these out there super cheap. I know they're not real sought after but can they be made to be stronger and more reliable without a ton of money?
i put a wicked wheel on my 6.5 china whirly boi "hx30". had to take comp housing to machine shop because china whirly factory has a 5mm +/- tolerance 😂😂😂. made it a year until i lost a cyl (ironically road-tripping to p/u two dmax (almost long blocks)
I saw the dodge and automatically thought about the rusted gas tanks and all of that
Fuel filter was a good call but id try to clean the whole system and run addictive in the fuel ⛽️
Finally some 6.5 content!!
Do you have a boost leak. only when you're like above a certain PSI of boost, maybe
As far as the black smoke, how much oil might be built up in the exhaust that still needs to get cooked out?
That’s a great point
Check for boost leaks. I’d imagine if that boot was full of silicone it was to try and remedy a crack in the boot or a poor seal.
My gpa had a 6.5. It was proof anything under 200hp is reliable
I would pressure test or smoke test the hot and cold side of the system.
more turbo would probably lean it out a bit and less black smoke, or needs to be leaned out. Is this ebay turbo larger? maybe i missed it in your video
I Don’t know diesel’s at all, but I was always thought “rolling coal” was fuel related? So I am guessing injector issues, hard to tell but I thought it sounded better after putting the turbo on, I thought it sounded like it was mis-firing under power before. Any way, anything you do would be interesting to see! Take care
yeah im pretty sure its fuel related too because if engine burning emgine oil its gonna blow slightly blue smoke