Story time, I saw this girl wearing a slipknot top whilst I was out, so slipknot being my favourite band I walked over and was like hey cool shirt, what's your favourite album... she looks at me and goes what, I was like the top... slipknot.... she goes I don't know what slipknot is.... I said it's a band and she goes oh is it, so I showed her their music and she goes I'm never wearing this shirt again... oh and the shirt was from H&M
Has no one mentioned how Henri, the guitarist from Finntroll, was the mastermind behind the H&M fake metal band controversy? He was trying to make a point that "you cannot commercialise a subculture without actually knowing all the different aspects of it." We all got FinnTROLLED!
Gary Holt made a statement against that when Kendall Jenner wore a Slayer T-shirt so he wore a "Kill The Kardashians" t-shirt on stage She even tweeted that she doesn't get how people can listen to heavy metal, then why TF is she wearing a band t-shirt. When you talk to non-metal people who wear band shirts 99% of the time they don't even know it (somehow you just pick out the real metalhead, it's just some kind of vibe) But that's the whole reason as you stated in your video, you advertise a certain band; Many times it's a conversation starter, if a t-shirt looks interesting walk up to that person and just say hey I don't know that band could you tell me about it.
Inactive Imaginations why can’t people just wear shirts of what they like I don’t wear band shirts for attention from other people who like that band i just wear it cause i like it same with movies tv books etc on my shirts
My favourite thing about living in Hong Kong is the fake tshirts with random crap printed on it. Two examples of why I love it is; 1) Theres an old chinese man (probably about 90) who lives on my island that wears a bright green singlet with the slayer logo on it. 2) I get kids coming into my class wearing things like weed print tshirts, and once a boy had "boston no. 1 pimp lady escorts" jacket on.
Lol here, there is an asian guy i saw wearing a t shirt with swastika logo, think its cool, probably didnt even know what it is all about. What a dumbfuck lol
Fortunately, as far as my experience has shown me, mainstream people find Battle Vests "ridiculous" and "immature", so I think the tradition is safe for the time being!
I personally feel that they being the big clothing companies really have no reason to sell band shirts, vests, etc. it really isn't going to affect their sales and anyone who listens to metal music wouldn't go into a Macy's to look for band shirts anyways.
True. I think it's just targeting angsty hipsters. Not that I have shit against them, but ya know, they will always look to be the next "special snowflake" kind of new. They always wanna be one step ahead of their peers, onto the next new thing first, always better, something that metal culture does not stand for.
I read on Cracked that people are paying thousands for vintage band shirts. The kind of stuff you'd see in the Salvation Army for a few dollars. It seems like the people who always talk about going "thrifting" can actually afford new expensive clothes. I had to get Salvation Army stuff as a kid. No choice sometimes. I remember seeing lots of metal shirts there in the 80s when I was too young to know who they were. Stuff hipsters would pay a bundle for now. That stuff should be reserved for the fans. While it's nice to be able to get things more easily you end up seeing a bunch of people wearing merchandise from bands they've probably never heard of. How's that for hipster. "I'm so underground even I haven't heard of this band. That's so meta." Or you see 14 year old girls wearing Iron Maiden shirts while listening to horrible autotune dance on their phones. Now maybe they like the band. But in most cases probably not. They probably couldn't name one song. I don't look like I listen to metal most of the time. And because of that i'm afraid to go back to my older style because I don't want to look like someone who is just buying into a fad.
Actually as a young metalhead, going to concerts and buying band tees are not options since I have strict parents etc and they hate metal culture. I go to H and M and stuff because my parents thinks that's it's just a regular store with fashionable clothes so yeah some metalheads do shop there for band tees.
Oliver Koch I despise urban/street wear and designer lines, it reeks of insecurity, vanity, and compensating for a lack of something, be it individuality, actually interesting hobbies, etc. Listening to metal and partaking in the subculture, which spits in the face of everything I listed prior, seems inconsistent to me. But, you are free to do as you please. Don’t care what I gotta say about it, I’m just a face among a sea of on TH-cam.
Metal Head I like anime, it's a nice contrast to metal. Loads of metalheads like gaming, cartoons and similar stuff. Anime is one of them things I guess
@@alien_666 most meatheads I have met like horror, gaming, atvs, guns and stuff like that i love all those but never liked or met someone that liked anime
Rather Not i get this is an old comment but that is just kinda dumb metal is one aspect of many people’s interests and you don’t really get to define what is cool no one does I personally don’t watch anime but I listen to metal and still like other stuff like i collect circus memorabilia and old dime store novelties and i like Disney movies so shut up
a friend (female) has a shirt/blouse with The Misfits skull logo printed in flowers, that thing makes me laugh a fucking lot. And also saw a girl in college using a Battle Jacket with random clichè metal stuff, and a H&M patch witha Cannibal Corpse like font, I fucking rolled on the floor laughing.
I've seen the misfits flower shirt it's in Hot Topic. I happen to be a huge Misfits fan I have a backpack with the fiend skull on it I've used it for 3 years now but sadly people assume "misfits" is a clothing brand that makes skirts with skulls on them and it hurts me to see people that I know quite well would hate the band use the logo as a fashion statement.
I can attest to this 100%. I wore a misfits shirt to Costco a while ago and some girl told me she liked it. I told her I got it when I saw them play years ago. She looked confused for a minute, and then said "I have a shirt with that skull on it, I didn't know it was a band." I've listened to the misfits for over ten years, so that was a difficult encounter xD
Raven H. It seems like so many people in my school are wearing Rush shirts since Walmart started selling them, but no one listens to Rush and it gets really annoying since I've been listening to rush since I was born
The ONLY Plus Sides To Big Companies Printing Band Merch Is That If I Wanted A Slayer Shirt Or A Ramones Shirt It's Easily Accessible, Kids Whose Parents Won't Let Them Spend That Much Money On Clothes Can Still Wear Their Favourite Band's Shirt
The problem is, that these shirts, especially the ones at H&M usually have holes in the neck because it "looks cool", when in reality it just looks like it had been eaten up by moths.
Buying Already Distressed Clothes Is Pointless, I Purposely Destroy My Clothes By Cutting Them Up, Safety Pins, Restitching, Bleach Splatters, Patches, Spikes, Tears, Holes, Ect. To Destroy Them In A Way That I Choose, Not The Way These Companies Approve Of As "Fashionable".
What everyone has ignored is : this is a trend in fashion..once the novelty wares off ,those who are wearing band shirts today ,will be wearing something else tomorrow !
About "fake band tees" - there was a fun little fad in Russia: some people took photos of popular Russian pop singers from 90's who just happened to have long hair, like Valeriy Leontiev and Phillip Kirkorov, put some metal stuff around, like flames and spikes, written their names with metal-looking fonts, and printed this as t-shirts. There were pretty popular among metalheads who liked a good laugh.
I love buying patches, shirts and merchandise from bands that i see live. It’s a great way to support local musicians. I live in the middle of nowhere so seeing shows is pretty intermittent. It’s pretty easy to go on etsy and buy some prefab garb but where’s the fun in that? Those momentos Ive earned are full of great memories and stories.
This in itself is not a problem. But it is a sign of a problem: Metal is becoming well known, and thus, people who neither understand it nor would like it if they did, are trying to assimilate it, turning it in to a McDonald's version of its true self, in to just another facet of mainstream trash culture that the spirit of metal is in opposition to. They are turning metal in to just one more way for angsty kids to buy an identity and feel unique, while really being the same as every other poser and hipster. Why? Because metal, if it is genuine, *is* unique. It is an umbrella term for multiple splintered but related cultures which have their own values, rituals, ideals, and most importantly: music, inspired by said values and ideals. By parasitically leeching off of metal, people who do not have metal in their minds can achieve the hipster and poser goal of appearing different by adopting metal's appearance on their outside without carrying it on their inside.
At school there was a girl who absolutely hated metal and she only listened to mumble rap. And she hated me and tried to make fun of me for being a metal head and one day she is walking in wearing a slipknot shirt and since slipknot is my favorite band I asked her if she has started to listen to metal now. She asked me what the hell I was talking about and I told her that she is wearing a metal band shirt and she never wore that shirt again
I get the whole bastardization perspective, I really do. I cringe when I see young kids wearing mass-produced Metallica shirts, and it's become a norm lately living in a big city. But at the same time... why the fuck waste time and effort caring about something so meaningless and insignificant? The designs and band logos are symbols - they mean a lot to us metal heads because we grew up on the music, we experienced new things through that music, we learned and made friends through it. But if it's just a "cool logo" to someone else, so be it. Their loss. In the same respect, symbols like "Calvin Klein" or Che Guevarara's face will probably never mean shit to me. The only difference is that I choose not to wear those things as a display.
Reminds me of when I first saw a thrasher shirt with a pentagram thinking it was a new band I never heard of. Needless to say I was very disappointed when I found out what it was.
I really do hate walking into a Hot Topic. I feel like I have to say "I'm a Metalhead! I'm just here to by that Tool, Ghost B.C., or Fear Factory shirt I've been looking for."
You stole all the thoughts out of my brain. I grew up in Toronto and now live in Vancouver where hipsters are a city-wide epidemic. Maybe they're not quite on the same level, but I feel like hipsters buying and wearing metal-style attire is essentially cultural appropriation. Heavy metal is a subculture and cultures are groups of people who are like-minded and lead similar lives or have similar interests. So for someone who is not actively part of the heavy metal culture to wear our "uniform" just to be cool to all their other douchebag friends...I don't know. Metalheads are still viewed as unintelligent lowlife degenerates or whatever, and the hipsters wearing fake metal band shirts are worshipped for being sooooooo cool and sooooo obscure. Maybe it's a little extreme to liken this to cultural appropriation (on the level of race) but at the very least it's incredibly annoying.
The hipsterization of metal is just sickening. Went to Spencer's to get my KISS shot glass set that they finally had in stock (waited for three damn months) and they had a few racks of t-shirts and I figured ya know, one can always use more band t-shirts. I'm looking through the shirts, find a few I like, and go to pay for my stuff. I'm waiting for the guy to bring out my shot glass set and this hipster looking chick wearing an Iron Maiden shirt. She sees me looking and asks if I like Iron Maiden. I reply, "Hell yes, who doesn't?" She replies, "They're so underground... I like Phil Di'Anneo better than Brice Dickinson. His vocals are so much rawer." It's horrible... I just paid for my stuff and left. I can't stand hipsters... it's almost like they have to absorb everything and make it their own, and take away our style and it just sucks...
That Guy Irish. I have been listening to Iron Maiden for almost two decades, and I also like Paul Di'Anno more their first two albums have always been my favorite. She just has a different opinion she isn't necessarily a hipster. Now sure she did say they were underground which is laughable but liking their first two albums more is no different than people preferring Dio Sabbath to Ozzy Sabbath
lol Maiden are underground. i also have a new group to recommend to you, they aren't well known and super special and underground. they're called slayer, you probably haven't heard of them.
So basically, a girl who was enough of a fan know the band members' names, and even the band's history is just a hipster who is trying to takeover the culture? How much more does she need to do to be considered a legitimate fan to you? Or was it how she was dressed? BTW Iron Maiden are not underground so not sure what that shit was about.
I'm a girl and I'm a metalhead, and it is a pain in the ass that thanks to h&m and al those stores are selling metal tshirts, people inmediatly think that you're some sort or poser or you are just trying to be trendy. I mean, at first it didn't affected me, in fact, my best friend and I met because we were both wearing opeth tshirts and started talking. But ever since this stupid fake metal trend started getting bigger, people looked at me like judging, and even said things like "I bet you don't even know the bands you're wearing", and it started a wave of just rude hardcore metalheads that "compete" to see who's a real fan and hate on others that they think aren't.
at least if the hipsters wear the fake band merch they're not wearing real band merch for bands they don't listen to, but in a way fake merch like that is insulting to metalheads so…
i definitely agree with not wearing band shirts when you dont know the band. i see people like kylie jenner wearing slayer shirts and she probably doesnt even listen to them and this guy was wearing a pink floyd shirt and i doubt he's even heard of them. as for spencers, hot topic, etc selling those shirts, it can have its problems like people buying things from people that they dont listen to, but it makes the merch available to people who do listen to that music.
hi there, just subbed to your channel. I've recently started getting heavily into stoner / doom metal. It's all about those slow, heavy riffs. I've even started writing my own instrumental doom album. I'm really digging bands like Sleep, Weedeater, Electric Wizard and Acrimony.
My friend and I used to wear Iron Maiden T-shirts a lot, but I actually stopped wearing them because of 'hipsterisation'. You can't talk to any random guy/girl that wears such a shirt about the band that's on it. Lately, I spoke to a girl in the corridor and she was wearing a Kill 'em all Metallica shirt and I said that Master of Puppets was better, and she looked at me like I was an orc or something.
I've bought licensed band shirts at hot topic before, I have a Sabbath shirt from there that I love. Really, it's a lifesaver for kids like me who live in crappy suburbs and also don't have access to online shopping :D
Well, as heavy metal lover and Fashion bachelor, I can surely affirm that Fashion industry isn't giving a shit at all! It's just about the style, it's just about the way it looks, including creating a random metal band, even if it doesn't make sense to us at all! In Fashion, we call this movement as "bubble up", when a fashion trend comes from workers or ordinaries stuffs and goes until the High Fashion on Fashion Weeks, that can be seen worldwide (it happens quite often with punk). It's "cruel", but is the technical point. As someone said here on comments some years ago, luckily this is a fad. So, don't worry 'cause as it suddenly appears, it disappears. Just ignore. Or, try to buy nice stuff for cheap price (like combat boots or so), because they goes on sale (as a fashion fad product ;) ) Is what I do. Nice video, btw (and I totally got your opinion).
That what he said happened to me, I saw a guy with a really cool T-shirt and a band name" I thought I had heard before. I searched in the internet and asked people for music of that band, it didn't existed at all. Its completely absurd.
Literally a dude in my Junior English class yesterday came in with a Nirvana shirt, and when my teacher asked who was on the shirt (Kurt Cobaine and Dave Group) the stupid kid said he didnt know Edit: Dave Grohl!
i agree with you because there are a shit load of rap fans at my high school that wear black sabbath and other metal shirts, but then they criticize me for liking the same bands that's on their shirts.
The Iron Maiden for fashion pisses me off because I have had people want to fight me for having long hair etc. Metal is a way of like, not a fashion statement.
I think witht he bastardization of our music and culture people are going to get into it and want to change metal into something that its not. Like people wanting to make metal politically correct and things like that
BLACK FUCKIN METAAALLLLLLLLLLL Look man this is one of the best metal vids on TH-cam and this dude gets massive likes and rarely any dislikes its like a metal god talking to us
I hate it when people wear band t-shirts not actually knowing what those bands stand for. Obviously, they have a right to buy and wear whatever they want, but when you come up to a person, say that it's nice to see another fan of the same band and he just looks at you and says that he had no idea what that thing on his shirt was, it's just frustrating.
Even here in England, this is a problem. I see these edgy hipsters wearing fake band merch and whatnot. One guy at college wore the jeans with "patches" on that H&M were selling and I foolishly mistook one of the "patches" for a Slayer patch; how I was so wrong and ignorant. It actually pisses me off; on Instagram I've seen people make their own jeans like that with real bands and patches - it's annoying how some people are so lazy and cheap that they purchase counterfeit merch. Good video.
Didn't know what battle vests were until I heard this, shows how much of metal newborn I really am. Only been into the world for about 4 maybe 5yrs now, but I am Mexican and I cant resist my precious latino roots. I also listen to other kinds of music like techno, but fuck nah to trap and the wub wubs. Maybe I should start making my own vest, but the bands I'm into never release patches, Epica and the one I am loyal to from heart to soul Sirenia.
I think what pissed me off is when I saw a girl in my class wearing a Metallica t-shirt... I was suprised and quite happy because I didn't knew she listened to metal, but when I asked her :" Hey I listen to metal too ! What's your favorite album ?" she didn't answer and looked at me with weird eyes while saying :" hum... What? Oh the shirt ? I didn't knew it was a band, I don't listen to them, I just bought it at H&M because it looked cool "... I was kinda shocked and somehow angry because she didn't even knew that what she was wearing wasn't just à basic black shirt with a badass logo on it...
I'm 40 been a metalhead since I was 12 never had a vest. Neither have any of my metalhead friends. Guess it's because I live near Atlanta & it's too DAMN hot in the summer. I did have a dickies shop jacket I sewed a megadeth (vic goes to hell) shirt on the back. It got stolen years ago.
I only purchase album / tour - specific band shirts of bands I love (Dream Theater, Death, Killswitch, Anaal Nathrakh, etc..). I personally think that stock band logo shirts are generic as hell. On a different note, once I saw a mother in the street wearing an Iron Maiden t shirt, I was so tempted to go up to her and ask her what her favourite album / song is. For fear of shame (on her behalf), I didn't bother.
I think somebody talking about this is really fucking important. A lot of these stores steal art and band logos and people buy it because it's "cool". I walked down the hallways last winter and some 9th grader had on a Black Sabbath shirt so I thought "How cool is that?!", but when I went to say hey great band he and his buddy were talking about their new favourite emo band Black Sabbath who were going on tour for the first time. I couldn't get away fast enough.
I see these companies write their name in metal band fonts. For example, I think it was the company Diamond, but it was Metallica Ride the Lightning font and I was pissed because they're piggy backing off some one else's idea. Let alone Metallica has an iconic style someone had to say "steal it for out company". Either wear a Metallica shirt or wear original shit
I met someone who wore a slipknot merch, I praised him and asked him if he heard their song "killpop" then he told me afterwards that he never heard the band and the song before, then in my thoughts I was disappointed and was like "give me that shirt, you don't deserve to wear that!"
I do not have a battle vest I want one bad but as I have only really liked metal for a year I do not know wether you buy one or make one I don't understand the way to obtain a battle vest help please?
here's why this does not resonate with me...because i do not have long hair. no tattoos. no piercings. i look so out of place at metal shows, but i am in the front row. i headbang and lose myself without care of how silly i might look around these stiff, stoic people around me, some young enough to be my own kids. so if someone else is a poser, i dont care....because i dont feel *I* fit in at all. Werewolf makes great points, but I just don't feel passion for this. People try to put on a front all the time, in any sub-culture.
I'm oke with stores selling the shirts, but I just don't like it when I see people at school wearing that shirt without knowing the band. But I guess that is what you get when you're with them selling it....
People who love metal. It's not hard to figure it out. I walk up to people with long hair camouflage pants a leather jacket and a beer. they're instantly my friend.
Never heard of fake band t-shirts. I don't mind places like Walmart selling them, I just don't understand the point of buying and wearing it if you don't know who the band even is.
there's one symbol that no one's gonna bastardize.. the labrys ! it goes all the way back to ancient greece& is the symbol for the chthonic goddess Artemis
One of the worst things about this that I can think of is if I see someone wearing a shirt for a band that looks fucking awesome...and the band doesn't exist!
I feel that we shouldn't compromise with the mainstream at all with our metal, whether it's the media or department stores, metal merchandize should be taken care of by metalheads only, and If u wanna make it available to the public then have more record stores everywhere I guess, metal-only FM radio stations, etc. they will never understand how we value metal so as long as we let THEM take care of the business, metal will be bastardized
I remember when I went to Nile when they were on tour for Those Whom The Gods Detest and they sold the patches for $1 US. At that price it seemed they were practically giving their own patches away so fellow metalheads could wear it with pride.
OMG some times I feel like Zara & this kind of stores they sell Iron Maiden shirts and teenagers wear those shirts but they do not give a shit for them. I mean, for me it is not the action of selling it, it is the action of wear a fucking shirt and not giving a shit for what is written on it. I think that we owe respect to those bands that have fight for metal like Iron Maiden... Even with 80s goth bands like Joy Division when I see teenagers wich these shirts and they dont have a clue of what the hell ''Joy Division'' means!!!! Frustating actually.... Good videos and channel, I subscribe !!!
Way I see it, if you don't listen to the band, don't wear their fucking merch. There's nothing worse than some emo or hipster kid wearing a Slayer or Testament shirt who doesn't know shit about the band and hasn't even heard of them or even one song by them and just wears it to look edgy or cool.
I dont think its a big deal really. theyre just selling an image because its trendy at that moment and itll be something else soon. great video and eeee Sly Cooper pin (my childhood/fave game series)
they really are bastardizing heavy metal style. i know that hip hop artists like ill bill and necro use fonts from actual metal bands, but that's because they love listening to metal, they're metalheads for life. however, i sit and laugh as i see rihanna use a metal font for her logo. it's pathetic that these companies want to bastardize our culture.
I subbed, I think you are more interesting than InfidelAmsterdam, I think that guy talks bullshit all the time. I just don't like his attitude he is like he is the king or something. Great video and go on :)
if h&m wants to sell meslayer or iron maiden t shirt on a lower price,that the one in the metal shops, then that s perfectly fine for me and my wallet,but if they are targeeting at those godawful pop idiots that wear shirts of bandsa whose names they cannot even pronounce, then whats the point?
Don't take off your battle vest. Don't. I don't care if it's hot, or too wet, or whatever, don't take it off, even if you start off with a explicitly cheap starting coat or vest, if you put on more and more patches then it'll rapidly increase in value due to labor time and designs plus patch value from a $30 vest or coat to $500+, so someone would have tons of motive to steal your vest or coat and resell it.
Story time, I saw this girl wearing a slipknot top whilst I was out, so slipknot being my favourite band I walked over and was like hey cool shirt, what's your favourite album... she looks at me and goes what, I was like the top... slipknot.... she goes I don't know what slipknot is.... I said it's a band and she goes oh is it, so I showed her their music and she goes I'm never wearing this shirt again... oh and the shirt was from H&M
I ever did this, but was 'cause I didn't want to talk to anyone
I thank you for straightening the posers out. If only more people actually had individuality.
Oof
Why would you come up to a stranger and ask them what's their favorite album or song out of nowhere LOL
@@johndemise3990 because that's how u meet ppl and make friends😒
U got to use ur head and think kid.
Lemmy: "What Bastards!"
Has no one mentioned how Henri, the guitarist from Finntroll, was the mastermind behind the H&M fake metal band controversy? He was trying to make a point that "you cannot commercialise a subculture without actually knowing all the different aspects of it." We all got FinnTROLLED!
And what Henri did with those fake bands was bloody hilarious - I had a ton of fun listening to the songs (some of which were actually pretty good!)
Gary Holt made a statement against that when Kendall Jenner wore a Slayer T-shirt so he wore a "Kill The Kardashians" t-shirt on stage
She even tweeted that she doesn't get how people can listen to heavy metal, then why TF is she wearing a band t-shirt.
When you talk to non-metal people who wear band shirts 99% of the time they don't even know it (somehow you just pick out the real metalhead, it's just some kind of vibe)
But that's the whole reason as you stated in your video, you advertise a certain band; Many times it's a conversation starter, if a t-shirt looks interesting walk up to that person and just say hey I don't know that band could you tell me about it.
Inactive Imaginations why can’t people just wear shirts of what they like I don’t wear band shirts for attention from other people who like that band i just wear it cause i like it same with movies tv books etc on my shirts
no keep buying them it gives the band more money lol
The greatest feeling is getting a friend into metal
They used to bully metalheads before and now they think we're cool and are trying to look like us? Lovely.
My favourite thing about living in Hong Kong is the fake tshirts with random crap printed on it. Two examples of why I love it is;
1) Theres an old chinese man (probably about 90) who lives on my island that wears a bright green singlet with the slayer logo on it.
2) I get kids coming into my class wearing things like weed print tshirts, and once a boy had "boston no. 1 pimp lady escorts" jacket on.
I want that pimp jacket so bad XD
what are your favorite black metal bands?? i would love to know
+Blackmetal Werewolf (Blackmetalwerewolf) theirs a guy on TH-cam talking shit about your videos
Lol here, there is an asian guy i saw wearing a t shirt with swastika logo, think its cool, probably didnt even know what it is all about. What a dumbfuck lol
Hana Richards-Butler. How about" Goofballs don't count Metal .com" fuckn 😕GOOFBALL!!!!!😈
Yeah, that's sort of ridiculous that Macy's took his vest. I don't know how someone could do that when it's not even their product.
1990’s: Metalheads co-opt Rap style
2010’s: Rappers co-opt Metal style
Fortunately, as far as my experience has shown me, mainstream people find Battle Vests "ridiculous" and "immature", so I think the tradition is safe for the time being!
I personally feel that they being the big clothing companies really have no reason to sell band shirts, vests, etc. it really isn't going to affect their sales and anyone who listens to metal music wouldn't go into a Macy's to look for band shirts anyways.
True. I think it's just targeting angsty hipsters. Not that I have shit against them, but ya know, they will always look to be the next "special snowflake" kind of new. They always wanna be one step ahead of their peers, onto the next new thing first, always better, something that metal culture does not stand for.
I read on Cracked that people are paying thousands for vintage band shirts. The kind of stuff you'd see in the Salvation Army for a few dollars. It seems like the people who always talk about going "thrifting" can actually afford new expensive clothes. I had to get Salvation Army stuff as a kid. No choice sometimes. I remember seeing lots of metal shirts there in the 80s when I was too young to know who they were. Stuff hipsters would pay a bundle for now. That stuff should be reserved for the fans.
While it's nice to be able to get things more easily you end up seeing a bunch of people wearing merchandise from bands they've probably never heard of. How's that for hipster. "I'm so underground even I haven't heard of this band. That's so meta."
Or you see 14 year old girls wearing Iron Maiden shirts while listening to horrible autotune dance on their phones. Now maybe they like the band. But in most cases probably not. They probably couldn't name one song.
I don't look like I listen to metal most of the time. And because of that i'm afraid to go back to my older style because I don't want to look like someone who is just buying into a fad.
Actually as a young metalhead, going to concerts and buying band tees are not options since I have strict parents etc and they hate metal culture. I go to H and M and stuff because my parents thinks that's it's just a regular store with fashionable clothes so yeah some metalheads do shop there for band tees.
Well, i listen to metal and i still buy highend clothing, just because you like metal does not mean you don't care about what you look like and wear.
Oliver Koch
I despise urban/street wear and designer lines, it reeks of insecurity, vanity, and compensating for a lack of something, be it individuality, actually interesting hobbies, etc. Listening to metal and partaking in the subculture, which spits in the face of everything I listed prior, seems inconsistent to me.
But, you are free to do as you please. Don’t care what I gotta say about it, I’m just a face among a sea of on TH-cam.
I agree with you! I love metal. I'd hate to be seen as a hipster.
Delete your profile picture and then you're not a hipster.
Why the fuck do so many metalheads on TH-cam have anime profile pictures I hate anime
Metal Head I like anime, it's a nice contrast to metal. Loads of metalheads like gaming, cartoons and similar stuff. Anime is one of them things I guess
@@alien_666 most meatheads I have met like horror, gaming, atvs, guns and stuff like that i love all those but never liked or met someone that liked anime
Rather Not i get this is an old comment but that is just kinda dumb metal is one aspect of many people’s interests and you don’t really get to define what is cool no one does I personally don’t watch anime but I listen to metal and still like other stuff like i collect circus memorabilia and old dime store novelties and i like Disney movies so shut up
a friend (female) has a shirt/blouse with The Misfits skull logo printed in flowers, that thing makes me laugh a fucking lot. And also saw a girl in college using a Battle Jacket with random clichè metal stuff, and a H&M patch witha Cannibal Corpse like font, I fucking rolled on the floor laughing.
I've seen the misfits flower shirt it's in Hot Topic. I happen to be a huge Misfits fan I have a backpack with the fiend skull on it I've used it for 3 years now but sadly people assume "misfits" is a clothing brand that makes skirts with skulls on them and it hurts me to see people that I know quite well would hate the band use the logo as a fashion statement.
I can attest to this 100%. I wore a misfits shirt to Costco a while ago and some girl told me she liked it. I told her I got it when I saw them play years ago. She looked confused for a minute, and then said "I have a shirt with that skull on it, I didn't know it was a band." I've listened to the misfits for over ten years, so that was a difficult encounter xD
Raven H. It seems like so many people in my school are wearing Rush shirts since Walmart started selling them, but no one listens to Rush and it gets really annoying since I've been listening to rush since I was born
The ONLY Plus Sides To Big Companies Printing Band Merch Is That If I Wanted A Slayer Shirt Or A Ramones Shirt It's Easily Accessible, Kids Whose Parents Won't Let Them Spend That Much Money On Clothes Can Still Wear Their Favourite Band's Shirt
The problem is, that these shirts, especially the ones at H&M usually have holes in the neck because it "looks cool", when in reality it just looks like it had been eaten up by moths.
Buying Already Distressed Clothes Is Pointless, I Purposely Destroy My Clothes By Cutting Them Up, Safety Pins, Restitching, Bleach Splatters, Patches, Spikes, Tears, Holes, Ect. To Destroy Them In A Way That I Choose, Not The Way These Companies Approve Of As "Fashionable".
Hell that's the only way I can get any sort of band t shirt Is from hot topic
What everyone has ignored is : this is a trend in fashion..once the novelty wares off ,those who are wearing band shirts today ,will be wearing something else tomorrow !
you are super intelligent and thats one of the reasons that i watch your videos :)
About "fake band tees" - there was a fun little fad in Russia: some people took photos of popular Russian pop singers from 90's who just happened to have long hair, like Valeriy Leontiev and Phillip Kirkorov, put some metal stuff around, like flames and spikes, written their names with metal-looking fonts, and printed this as t-shirts. There were pretty popular among metalheads who liked a good laugh.
Carnage rectal trauma lmao
I really wanna hear that band now...
New band name: Stalin’s fetal murder bloody death attacker’s
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It's kinda shady that Macy's would have someone steal a guy's vest and then try to sell it...
I love buying patches, shirts and merchandise from bands that i see live. It’s a great way to support local musicians. I live in the middle of nowhere so seeing shows is pretty intermittent. It’s pretty easy to go on etsy and buy some prefab garb but where’s the fun in that? Those momentos Ive earned are full of great memories and stories.
This in itself is not a problem. But it is a sign of a problem: Metal is becoming well known, and thus, people who neither understand it nor would like it if they did, are trying to assimilate it, turning it in to a McDonald's version of its true self, in to just another facet of mainstream trash culture that the spirit of metal is in opposition to.
They are turning metal in to just one more way for angsty kids to buy an identity and feel unique, while really being the same as every other poser and hipster.
Why?
Because metal, if it is genuine, *is* unique. It is an umbrella term for multiple splintered but related cultures which have their own values, rituals, ideals, and most importantly: music, inspired by said values and ideals. By parasitically leeching off of metal, people who do not have metal in their minds can achieve the hipster and poser goal of appearing different by adopting metal's appearance on their outside without carrying it on their inside.
It's turning great bands into Hot Topic keychains.
vOddy we can't let metal die especially Christian metal
look out ! cause Jesus metal may be next for bastardization
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I've always hated the in crowd! Macy's need give back the jacket or be sued if they refuse.
Usually a black t-shirt, jeans / black shorts / black cargo shorts, and black sneakers are my basics when I go to watch bands or play in bands.
At school there was a girl who absolutely hated metal and she only listened to mumble rap. And she hated me and tried to make fun of me for being a metal head and one day she is walking in wearing a slipknot shirt and since slipknot is my favorite band I asked her if she has started to listen to metal now. She asked me what the hell I was talking about and I told her that she is wearing a metal band shirt and she never wore that shirt again
I get the whole bastardization perspective, I really do. I cringe when I see young kids wearing mass-produced Metallica shirts, and it's become a norm lately living in a big city. But at the same time... why the fuck waste time and effort caring about something so meaningless and insignificant? The designs and band logos are symbols - they mean a lot to us metal heads because we grew up on the music, we experienced new things through that music, we learned and made friends through it. But if it's just a "cool logo" to someone else, so be it. Their loss. In the same respect, symbols like "Calvin Klein" or Che Guevarara's face will probably never mean shit to me. The only difference is that I choose not to wear those things as a display.
Reminds me of when I first saw a thrasher shirt with a pentagram thinking it was a new band I never heard of. Needless to say I was very disappointed when I found out what it was.
I remember when primark sold Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Slayer and Motorhead T-shirts.
I really do hate walking into a Hot Topic. I feel like I have to say "I'm a Metalhead! I'm just here to by that Tool, Ghost B.C., or Fear Factory shirt I've been looking for."
You stole all the thoughts out of my brain. I grew up in Toronto and now live in Vancouver where hipsters are a city-wide epidemic. Maybe they're not quite on the same level, but I feel like hipsters buying and wearing metal-style attire is essentially cultural appropriation. Heavy metal is a subculture and cultures are groups of people who are like-minded and lead similar lives or have similar interests. So for someone who is not actively part of the heavy metal culture to wear our "uniform" just to be cool to all their other douchebag friends...I don't know. Metalheads are still viewed as unintelligent lowlife degenerates or whatever, and the hipsters wearing fake metal band shirts are worshipped for being sooooooo cool and sooooo obscure. Maybe it's a little extreme to liken this to cultural appropriation (on the level of race) but at the very least it's incredibly annoying.
The hipsterization of metal is just sickening. Went to Spencer's to get my KISS shot glass set that they finally had in stock (waited for three damn months) and they had a few racks of t-shirts and I figured ya know, one can always use more band t-shirts. I'm looking through the shirts, find a few I like, and go to pay for my stuff. I'm waiting for the guy to bring out my shot glass set and this hipster looking chick wearing an Iron Maiden shirt. She sees me looking and asks if I like Iron Maiden. I reply, "Hell yes, who doesn't?" She replies, "They're so underground... I like Phil Di'Anneo better than Brice Dickinson. His vocals are so much rawer." It's horrible... I just paid for my stuff and left. I can't stand hipsters... it's almost like they have to absorb everything and make it their own, and take away our style and it just sucks...
That Guy Irish. I have been listening to Iron Maiden for almost two decades, and I also like Paul Di'Anno more their first two albums have always been my favorite. She just has a different opinion she isn't necessarily a hipster. Now sure she did say they were underground which is laughable but liking their first two albums more is no different than people preferring Dio Sabbath to Ozzy Sabbath
lol Maiden are underground. i also have a new group to recommend to you, they aren't well known and super special and underground. they're called slayer, you probably haven't heard of them.
So basically, a girl who was enough of a fan know the band members' names, and even the band's history is just a hipster who is trying to takeover the culture? How much more does she need to do to be considered a legitimate fan to you? Or was it how she was dressed?
BTW Iron Maiden are not underground so not sure what that shit was about.
@@Jrez She didnt know the name though, she called him Phil when its paul and said they were underground when they're the exact opposite of that lol
@@westonwheeler2311 OP was joking anyway, being a stereotypical hypocrite.
You never take a man or woman's vest.
Nice pfp
I'm a girl and I'm a metalhead, and it is a pain in the ass that thanks to h&m and al those stores are selling metal tshirts, people inmediatly think that you're some sort or poser or you are just trying to be trendy.
I mean, at first it didn't affected me, in fact, my best friend and I met because we were both wearing opeth tshirts and started talking. But ever since this stupid fake metal trend started getting bigger, people looked at me like judging, and even said things like "I bet you don't even know the bands you're wearing", and it started a wave of just rude hardcore metalheads that "compete" to see who's a real fan and hate on others that they think aren't.
So the problem are the stores and not the rude metalheads?? Like bruh
at least if the hipsters wear the fake band merch they're not wearing real band merch for bands they don't listen to, but in a way fake merch like that is insulting to metalheads so…
I own Shirts of Bands, because i like their Music. I dont care if the Print is fake or not. The Message is important.
lmao I just paint my black t-shirts, because I'm broke af
i definitely agree with not wearing band shirts when you dont know the band. i see people like kylie jenner wearing slayer shirts and she probably doesnt even listen to them and this guy was wearing a pink floyd shirt and i doubt he's even heard of them. as for spencers, hot topic, etc selling those shirts, it can have its problems like people buying things from people that they dont listen to, but it makes the merch available to people who do listen to that music.
awesome Emperor shirt my dude, Anthems is one of my personal favorite records
hi there, just subbed to your channel. I've recently started getting heavily into stoner / doom metal. It's all about those slow, heavy riffs. I've even started writing my own instrumental doom album. I'm really digging bands like Sleep, Weedeater, Electric Wizard and Acrimony.
My friend and I used to wear Iron Maiden T-shirts a lot, but I actually stopped wearing them because of 'hipsterisation'. You can't talk to any random guy/girl that wears such a shirt about the band that's on it.
Lately, I spoke to a girl in the corridor and she was wearing a Kill 'em all Metallica shirt and I said that Master of Puppets was better, and she looked at me like I was an orc or something.
Instantly subscribed after seeing the 3IOB and CoF patches
This is a fad that will pass.
I've bought licensed band shirts at hot topic before, I have a Sabbath shirt from there that I love. Really, it's a lifesaver for kids like me who live in crappy suburbs and also don't have access to online shopping :D
Same, my iron maiden and A7X shirts are from hot topic
Well, as heavy metal lover and Fashion bachelor, I can surely affirm that Fashion industry isn't giving a shit at all! It's just about the style, it's just about the way it looks, including creating a random metal band, even if it doesn't make sense to us at all! In Fashion, we call this movement as "bubble up", when a fashion trend comes from workers or ordinaries stuffs and goes until the High Fashion on Fashion Weeks, that can be seen worldwide (it happens quite often with punk). It's "cruel", but is the technical point. As someone said here on comments some years ago, luckily this is a fad. So, don't worry 'cause as it suddenly appears, it disappears. Just ignore. Or, try to buy nice stuff for cheap price (like combat boots or so), because they goes on sale (as a fashion fad product ;) ) Is what I do. Nice video, btw (and I totally got your opinion).
What weirds me out is when I see totally normal non metalheads wearing shirts with inverted crosses. It's gotten really popular
thats not really specifically a metal symbol lol
Metal style has been sold since before you were born, dude.
That what he said happened to me, I saw a guy with a really cool T-shirt and a band name" I thought I had heard before. I searched in the internet and asked people for music of that band, it didn't existed at all. Its completely absurd.
I have also realised how much of one of those hipsters I sound... fuck
some guy at school tried to steal my jacket and I beat the shit out of them
Literally a dude in my Junior English class yesterday came in with a Nirvana shirt, and when my teacher asked who was on the shirt (Kurt Cobaine and Dave Group) the stupid kid said he didnt know
Edit: Dave Grohl!
i agree with you because there are a shit load of rap fans at my high school that wear black sabbath and other metal shirts, but then they criticize me for liking the same bands that's on their shirts.
The Iron Maiden for fashion pisses me off because I have had people want to fight me for having long hair etc. Metal is a way of like, not a fashion statement.
I think witht he bastardization of our music and culture people are going to get into it and want to change metal into something that its not. Like people wanting to make metal politically correct and things like that
They already tried to make metal mainstream, that's how hair metal was born, and quickly killed off along with the 80s.
TetrisShark70 Good fucking thing that Hair and Glam died
Nice album and a good video, thanks man :)
I completely agree with you...
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Look man this is one of the best metal vids on TH-cam and this dude gets massive likes and rarely any dislikes its like a metal god talking to us
I hate it when people wear band t-shirts not actually knowing what those bands stand for. Obviously, they have a right to buy and wear whatever they want, but when you come up to a person, say that it's nice to see another fan of the same band and he just looks at you and says that he had no idea what that thing on his shirt was, it's just frustrating.
Even here in England, this is a problem. I see these edgy hipsters wearing fake band merch and whatnot. One guy at college wore the jeans with "patches" on that H&M were selling and I foolishly mistook one of the "patches" for a Slayer patch; how I was so wrong and ignorant. It actually pisses me off; on Instagram I've seen people make their own jeans like that with real bands and patches - it's annoying how some people are so lazy and cheap that they purchase counterfeit merch. Good video.
Didn't know what battle vests were until I heard this, shows how much of metal newborn I really am. Only been into the world for about 4 maybe 5yrs now, but I am Mexican and I cant resist my precious latino roots. I also listen to other kinds of music like techno, but fuck nah to trap and the wub wubs. Maybe I should start making my own vest, but the bands I'm into never release patches, Epica and the one I am loyal to from heart to soul Sirenia.
I think what pissed me off is when I saw a girl in my class wearing a Metallica t-shirt... I was suprised and quite happy because I didn't knew she listened to metal, but when I asked her :" Hey I listen to metal too ! What's your favorite album ?" she didn't answer and looked at me with weird eyes while saying :" hum... What? Oh the shirt ? I didn't knew it was a band, I don't listen to them, I just bought it at H&M because it looked cool "... I was kinda shocked and somehow angry because she didn't even knew that what she was wearing wasn't just à basic black shirt with a badass logo on it...
I'm 40 been a metalhead since I was 12 never had a vest. Neither have any of my metalhead friends. Guess it's because I live near Atlanta & it's too DAMN hot in the summer. I did have a dickies shop jacket I sewed a megadeth (vic goes to hell) shirt on the back. It got stolen years ago.
that Celtic Frost patch is fucking bad ass.
I only purchase album / tour - specific band shirts of bands I love (Dream Theater, Death, Killswitch, Anaal Nathrakh, etc..). I personally think that stock band logo shirts are generic as hell. On a different note, once I saw a mother in the street wearing an Iron Maiden t shirt, I was so tempted to go up to her and ask her what her favourite album / song is. For fear of shame (on her behalf), I didn't bother.
I think somebody talking about this is really fucking important. A lot of these stores steal art and band logos and people buy it because it's "cool". I walked down the hallways last winter and some 9th grader had on a Black Sabbath shirt so I thought "How cool is that?!", but when I went to say hey great band he and his buddy were talking about their new favourite emo band Black Sabbath who were going on tour for the first time. I couldn't get away fast enough.
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Right on man couldn't agree anymore with what you said dude.
I used to work at H&M and they literally had a hoodie that just said “Thrash Metal” on the front and down the sleeves for like $50.
Who the hell would steal someone's personal clothing (especially a battle vest)?!
Crazy assholes that's who. :/
I see these companies write their name in metal band fonts. For example, I think it was the company Diamond, but it was Metallica Ride the Lightning font and I was pissed because they're piggy backing off some one else's idea. Let alone Metallica has an iconic style someone had to say "steal it for out company". Either wear a Metallica shirt or wear original shit
Agree. Same problem here in Sweden 😈
what do you think about people who have converted into a metalhead?
I met someone who wore a slipknot merch, I praised him and asked him if he heard their song "killpop" then he told me afterwards that he never heard the band and the song before, then in my thoughts I was disappointed and was like "give me that shirt, you don't deserve to wear that!"
I do not have a battle vest I want one bad but as I have only really liked metal for a year I do not know wether you buy one or make one I don't understand the way to obtain a battle vest help please?
definitely make one yourself! Just get a vest or jacket or whatever and get patches of bands you like
+Blackmetal Werewolf thanks and just got to say I really like your videos I have been looking for this kind of content for ages
+Travis Jordan oh thank you! I'm glad you like my videos
+Blackmetal Werewolf your welcome
I love your videos
here's why this does not resonate with me...because i do not have long hair. no tattoos. no piercings. i look so out of place at metal shows, but i am in the front row. i headbang and lose myself without care of how silly i might look around these stiff, stoic people around me, some young enough to be my own kids. so if someone else is a poser, i dont care....because i dont feel *I* fit in at all. Werewolf makes great points, but I just don't feel passion for this. People try to put on a front all the time, in any sub-culture.
I’d love to have a records and patch store
I'm oke with stores selling the shirts, but I just don't like it when I see people at school wearing that shirt without knowing the band. But I guess that is what you get when you're with them selling it....
*when you're oke with selling....*
People who love metal. It's not hard to figure it out. I walk up to people with long hair camouflage pants a leather jacket and a beer. they're instantly my friend.
Never heard of fake band t-shirts.
I don't mind places like Walmart selling them, I just don't understand the point of buying and wearing it if you don't know who the band even is.
there's one symbol that no one's gonna bastardize.. the labrys ! it goes all the way back to ancient greece& is the symbol for the chthonic goddess Artemis
One of the worst things about this that I can think of is if I see someone wearing a shirt for a band that looks fucking awesome...and the band doesn't exist!
Sepultura + Iron Maden 2007 in Argentina. That Was Sick bro.
I like your battle vest I'm making me a black metal battle vest
can you please do a video about your band t-shirts and where you get them??
Taige Garrison fuck off poser
Even worse, Bloomingdale's now sells punk t-shirts for $40 +
power ranger shoulder on point
I feel that we shouldn't compromise with the mainstream at all with our metal, whether it's the media or department stores, metal merchandize should be taken care of by metalheads only, and If u wanna make it available to the public then have more record stores everywhere I guess, metal-only FM radio stations, etc. they will never understand how we value metal so as long as we let THEM take care of the business, metal will be bastardized
Where can I get good patches for my battle vest for a good price
there's a seller on ebay that has good prices. their name is yourpatchstore they have a pretty big variety as well
thx :)
+McPlays123 And also look on amazon
or you can check out tshirtslayer (but watch out,it's addictive)
I remember when I went to Nile when they were on tour for Those Whom The Gods Detest and they sold the patches for $1 US. At that price it seemed they were practically giving their own patches away so fellow metalheads could wear it with pride.
your awesome i agree what they are doing to metal is a bunch of crap
Please tell me he got his vest back???
You are RIGHT!!!!
OMG some times I feel like Zara & this kind of stores they sell Iron Maiden shirts and teenagers wear those shirts but they do not give a shit for them. I mean, for me it is not the action of selling it, it is the action of wear a fucking shirt and not giving a shit for what is written on it. I think that we owe respect to those bands that have fight for metal like Iron Maiden... Even with 80s goth bands like Joy Division when I see teenagers wich these shirts and they dont have a clue of what the hell ''Joy Division'' means!!!! Frustating actually....
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+Al Fr It bothers me too.
Way I see it, if you don't listen to the band, don't wear their fucking merch. There's nothing worse than some emo or hipster kid wearing a Slayer or Testament shirt who doesn't know shit about the band and hasn't even heard of them or even one song by them and just wears it to look edgy or cool.
I dont think its a big deal really. theyre just selling an image because its trendy at that moment and itll be something else soon. great video and eeee Sly Cooper pin (my childhood/fave game series)
Blackmetal werewolf,, what about battle axes....are they included in the metal style?
Maybe in viking metal
they really are bastardizing heavy metal style.
i know that hip hop artists like ill bill and necro use fonts from actual metal bands, but that's because they love listening to metal, they're metalheads for life. however, i sit and laugh as i see rihanna use a metal font for her logo. it's pathetic that these companies want to bastardize our culture.
I dont wanna hit like cause its at 666 likes...
carnage rectal trauma sounds like a great fucking band!
I'm thinking of making my own battle vest. Do you use black denim for yours? And where do you get your patches? Thanks!
I subbed, I think you are more interesting than InfidelAmsterdam, I think that guy talks bullshit all the time. I just don't like his attitude he is like he is the king or something. Great video and go on :)
2 hipsters disliked this video... they are on to us.
if h&m wants to sell meslayer or iron maiden t shirt on a lower price,that the one in the metal shops, then that s perfectly fine for me and my wallet,but if they are targeeting at those godawful pop idiots that wear shirts of bandsa whose names they cannot even pronounce, then whats the point?
To make money
Don't take off your battle vest.
Don't. I don't care if it's hot, or too wet, or whatever, don't take it off, even if you start off with a explicitly cheap starting coat or vest, if you put on more and more patches then it'll rapidly increase in value due to labor time and designs plus patch value from a $30 vest or coat to $500+, so someone would have tons of motive to steal your vest or coat and resell it.
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