That's true in the sense that the CPU is worthless but it's also very inefficient. That said -- the silicon inside it is worth far more than the CPU itself.
Well that is not really any recent recommendations, it's unchanged since 2007 when it first released on steam. Id say its more of a absolute minimum at this point with how cpu heavy it is on 2 cores, portal 2 minimum specs is more close too what TF2 needs id say.
My Pentium 4 HT 3.0GHz (PGA478), 2GB DDR1, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 2x 40GB HDD, WinXP system can ran L4D2 pretty okay. I'm sure it could do a lot better with a better GPU as the 9800 Pro is slower than the Radeon X800 which is the official minimum requirement. It can run Quake 3 at really high refresh rate. My WinXP system can run it at over 200+ fps
Or be smart and build a great retro gaming PC build with it. Of course it's horrible for modern gaming and apps, but for pre Crysis PC gaming, it's a good choice.
I have a friend who's parents still have an ancient Dell with one of these exact processors. The system has 2 80GB Western Digital hard drives with 2GBs of DDR2 and it runs WIndows 7. Everything you do on this system proves to be a monumental task for this CPU. Amazingly 480P TH-cam playback is achievable with H264ify on Chrome. The hyperthreading is really the only thing keeping this CPU going these days, and barely at that.
I still use a Pentium 4 (3.2 GHz Northwood) on occasion. If I ever need to do stuff on an old Windows XP environment, I fire up my old Dell Dimension 4600. It's a bonus if I need to use a space heater as well.
@@eduardoavila646 Eh, it's not really worth it, considering that I don't use it daily. What it has already is more than adequate for what I use it for.
@@Watcher3223 Yeah, i mean my comment was more of a joke than anything. Those machines are barelly usable nowdays. I have one just for the sake of collecting tbh.
i remember when i used mine in the summer and i had to play only in underwear because of how out my room would be at the end of the day, xD and opened case with a big fan to it, AHAHAH Still have that bastard and love him
A friend of mine -plays- *_suffers_* CSGO on that pentium. Pressing ESC. Instantly crashes the game. Any matchmaking map crashes. But he bought a Ryzen :D
You'd almost feel bad for the poor thing haha. Great work, I really like the wide array of games tested. I had a P4 as my main system from 2005 until early 2010. It played the early versions of Minecraft (alpha and early beta) pretty well if I recall correctly, but anything more than that and it would throw its hands up. When I finally got a Core 2 Quad it felt like a whole new world :p
I'm using Pentium 4 3.00 ghz Northwood PC for retro gaming. It does the job well in dual booting win98 and winxp, it's great for listening to music, surfing the internet, watching movies via vlc player and playing games in general.
@@han_2803 Intel has massive problems since AMD has become a valueable alternative again. They did not expect that. They were relying on their monopoly and thinking they could sell us the nearly exact same processors for 5 times in a row, now they have to power up their brain which has been crippeld by the years of inactivity
I must admit I missed the Pentium 4's as I was using AMD instead. I do have a P4 in a system though, a desktop p4 2.93ghz cpu in a laptop, although how you can call a 17" monster that weighs 10 lbs a laptop I dont know, plus the noise from the 3 fans was a little annoying. Excellent Vid once again.
Good to see a video from you hopefully we will see more coming soon :). Since this CPU is a single core that's what's making it struggle this way, dual core CPU's will be doing much better for sure.
view distance, detail distance and vehicle density turned to the lowest, gta 4 can actually be somewhat playable on a p4. ~20 fps. but these 3 settings need to be turned down since they put a lot of load on the cpu
@@talvisota327 i completed GTA iV on my pentium 4, and i still have him. i wouldnt say that i had everything set to lowest thou and still had 25 to 35 +/-. But GTA IV is pretty bad optimized even my 2015 pc has fps drops sometimes, i remember that was one setting (i think related to shadows) that inn one par of the map i would be driving at 60fps +/- and next moment it would drop to 15fps, lowering the shadows and keep rest in high, fixes it.
William. I still use this atom 270 with w7 starter sometmes. MSI wind PC, 2 GB ram. I give the system a 4 out of 10. It ran smoothly with XP, though. Windows score is now 2.2. I now mostly use atom x5 mini pcs.No complaints.
Remade, the new gen of atoms x5's are very, very usefull for small form pc's. They pack a punch while only drawing 10 watts of power and therefore doesnt need a fan. Perfect for normal use, even some cad software can run on it.
Mine hit 15 years now. Took it out, dusted it, upgraded XP to windows 7 and then to 8 and then to Windows 10. I’m so surprised that for my day to day tasks, it works! With my 8800 GT, even Netflix works just fine.
One Core running flat out gets really hot. Hard to believe that our Note 8 has more processing power than the P2, still it was an interesting and noteworthy look at the old Pentium 4. Thank you. 👍
@@linkedius2532 Nah, a singlecore atom n455 @1.6ghz with 1gb of ram, Windows 7 32bit, a intefrated gma 3150 stealing 256mb of shared ram can run it even at around 17-19 fps. And that atom is actually comparable to a 1133mhz pentium 3. So yeah, a pentium 4 with a decent gpu can run it well actually.
I have an old laptop with some PGA socket with a 130mm pentium 4 HT @3.2Ghz. I recently upgraded it to 1GB of RAM but I don't know how to back it up and whether there are drivers for windows 7 for the hardware in it, so until I can do that, I'm going to have to stay with windows xp. information on the internet iis hard to come by because not many people use windows xp nowadays.
I cant exactly find out what we use in school cuz restrictions. But what I do know is that its a single core 1ghz cpu with 512mb of ram with 2TB SSDs.... And we are an IT "University" where they teach you that the highest core CPU ever has 8 cores.
@@thealien_ali3382 I was and am well aware of that xd But thats german universities for you. You wont escape lies and outdated data if you leave regular schools behind
I have one of the Pentium D's in a Dell XPS desktop. Fantastic for XP, if you don't mind the lights dimming when you turn it on. I only really use it in the winter, since most of the power turns to heat I'm not really losing much money that way.
MaximilianMus replace the hard drive with an SSD. Makes a world of difference for all basic tasks like searching and copying files. I found a P4 system struggles with regular hard drives from the era. If your board only has IDE ports, you can pick up for cheap a SATA to IDE converter and even a 4 pin molex to SATA power adapter. An SSD can give you a little more like back to your dinosaur system :)
Amazing piece of hardware which was worse than what AMD had and worse than even Intel had in mobile. That said Hyper Threading was amazing feature back in the day. Just having second hardware thread for I/O and to prevent one application clogging all CPU time was improving experience of using system, especially when using heavier programs. With dual, quad, etc. core CPU's adding hardware threads doesn't make this kind of difference and actually due to how threads were scheduled it could even cause performance issues which single core Pentium 4 with HT never had. Anyways, Pentium 4 made sense only with Hyper Threading otherwise AMD CPU's had much better CPU's for the time.
jezzermeii lol 😂 got my i3 in CEX £4 it cost me lol it’s surprisingly good in 2019 I’m playing 4K TH-cam with no stutter and considering it’s basically a hyper threaded core 2 duo that is very impressive
@@christineayres5339 Those early i-Series processors and late socket 775 processors are really surprising, aren't they? I don't really game as much as I did in the past, but for everyday usage, I literally have zero problems in terms of lag or anything like that. It was a great time for intel. However, I must confess, I would definitely be on the AMD side of the fence if I was to make a new build today. They definitely seem to give a lot more bang for buck compared to Intel these days. Thanks for your comment though, very interesting. :) I think it will still be a very long time before I change my set-up. Probably will wait until the components die of old age!
kennedy moreiras not only from that era but mostly, my motherboard just died yesterday and I changed the mb and cpu. Now rocking a core 2 quad q8300 and 4gb of ram, you have a setup for windows xp?
I use my 3Ghz Prescott box as a PfSense router. Not exactly power efficient, but more than sufficient for a 100Mbps connection, OpenVPN, a squid caching proxy server and the PC was free from a recycle pile.
I'm old enough that I remember back when I had a Pentium III and to watch videos I would download them and REENCODE THEM to something my computer could handle, maybe turn them into a DVD and watch on a DVD player.
This channel has a really similar style and premise as Green Ham Gaming. Only difference is that GHG hasn’t uploaded in 8 months. Glad I found this channel, I’m hooked and subbed.
source games were notoriously bad to run on single core cpus back in the day. TF2 was the reason I wanted a core 2 quad so badly, but when I got a 3770k I didn't even play TF2 much. lmao
TF2 use to be able to maintain 60FPS on a core 2 quad with max settings, now it struggles and you constantly see 30s-40s and every once in a while it'll reach 60fps. source wasn't that bad on a single core system, i use to play gmod and TF2 and half-life 2 DM, and zombie panic source and other source mods on a pentium 4 with a 6800 gt and it ran well. now you couldn't even begin to run those game with a system like that.
I threw Windows 7 on a P4 HT 3.4Ghz, I actually had a lot fun during the evening I was using it I completely forgot I was on a 15yo computer, talking on discord, watching youtube via VLC, and playing some old games as well as some other random stuff. 10/10 would use again.
My pentium 4 rig is still working. Couple USB ports are dead but it’s still working lol. Factory HDD and fans, I want to take it out of storage one day.
I have a P4 630 in an ancient HP "small form factory" computer (that I admittedly rarely use), and I am impressed by how... well... "good" this machine still works for "light" office and internet surfing work (with Linux Mint 19.1 xfce on it).
Nice video! I had one 660 P4 (3.6Ghz with HT), the IHS was soldered, the solder went gradually really bad, and in the end, idle temperature was 70ºC with a massive Gigabyte 3D Rocket cooler. Although, the thermals never were good. 115W TDP they said. Unless you check the Max. power dissipation: 148W... Throw it in the same bin that you found. Then, lit the bin on fire. Then, throw the bin to a swamp. And then, lit the swamp on fire. But be quick, it may catch fire itself before all that. The world will thank you for it. Cheers.
Watching this on a PC with an Intel Pentium 4 @ 3.20GHz and 4 GB ram. It's been running from new, since 2003 without problems, except 4 or 5 replacement IDE hard drives. It used to run WinXP but now it's Linux. Everyone hates the P4, but just for the Net, it's ok. I keep my P4 box because it just lives on. It's been going 16 years and it will likely reach 20.
I actually ran on one of these until 2014 as unbelievable as that sounds but it was on windows xp, i think you would get better results on that OS. I played a lot of minecraft and i definitely remember having over 30 fps on 1.7.10. Hope you make another video with linux and XP, i will watch it for sure.
I remember the Pentium 4 being the big base on system requirements for a lot of programs and browsers, since trying to get things on a Pentium III wouldn't work and would usually come up with the message saying it requires Pentium 4 or better. I never owned one I had a much worse Celeron 420 processor for my first owned computer but it definitely is interesting to see the Pentium being used quite a bit still and seems to handle basic things alright. Its pretty much the time though that most people won't be using single core processors anymore and most these days at least come with a duel core. It just isn't up for what technology has for us today, and especially with fewer instructions than newer processors thats also the killer. Core 2 would still probably be one of the best processors to use for general stuff and a bit of light and indie gaming, some of them sometimes still keep up. Of course all technology ages and moves on, but its still nice to see how people can still put this old stuff into use in a way.
great vids and enjoy your content, just wanted to say you REALLY should had thrown in or tested a socket 478 p4 too. they perform differently enough to be worth the two different tests and the 478 version i've found to be even more common and limiting than the 775 versions. plus, i've found (and this isn't for benchmarking, what you are doing is fine) that for actual gaming and the experience itself, it's better and you do get a bit better performance if you don't use top of the line current graphics cards with them. again, for your benchmarks it does what it needs to do, but what you really want if one is really planning to game on it is the "strongest" gpu that would allow the cpu to run most things out there without any issues, but as old as it can comfortably be, and sometimes even not use the newest drivers, the least bloated newest ones that still do what you need to do. sometimes just having a more "simple" gpu stresses the cpu less during it's normal operation. EDIT: but yeah, the 478 version i find way more limiting than the 775 version. the 775 version is newer obviously, but has the chance of having ht, can at least upgrade to a pentium d most times, will usually have a pcie slot on the board, better integrated graphics usually on the board if you use them, and almost guaranteed ddr2 support. 478 sticks you with agp slots, ddr1 ram, the ht model is much rarer but still not super rare, and integrated graphics can sometimes be even that old 82865 and only up to the gma950 i believe. all that being said, i can still whip together "modern" systems with both of them depending on the customer and the needs. the crappiest pentium 4 is still great for running windows 7 or older while hopping right into email, craigslist, word processing, old gaming, etc. some people just only want that and even the cheapest walmart machine is overkill and expensive for them.
The Galaxy S2 originally shipped with Gingerbread (!) and official support stopped around the Jellybean era. Given how underpowered an S2 really is (even my S4 is struggling a little bit on it's original 4.2 Jellybean now), and given how reports of the S4 not being very nice on Lollipop was (Lollipop was the last official OS for the S4), I'd be amazed that you can even get the install files for Pie on an S2, let alone see if it works... To put this into perspective, I remember the Budget Builds episode of the Galaxy Ace, which also started at (and currently is still on) Gingerbread, and that was nigh on impossible to use. The same can be said about my Galaxy Ace Plus.
@@TheSpotify95 The galaxy s2 is much more powerful than the galaxy ace though. I think, with the right rom, that you'd be able to use an s2 op pie in 2019.
Ur videos make me consider building one of these terrible computers my main pc has a core 2 duo can't get csgo browser slow and hasn't been cleaned in about 8 years 😎Ty for the like sorry for late update only 33 seconds after u likes 16 likes most I've ever got
I consider upgrading to a q6600 and do the BSEL mod to OC it to 3 GHz with a piece of tape and also upgrade the GPU. I have a 660 Ti paired with my 3GHz modded Q6600 and CSGO runs on max and 1080p with 60fps.
I went to high-school in 2011/2012 and my school's library still had those! With 2GB ram and a 6800GT no less. Those days the school library PC's were a pick-and-mix mismatch of parts, with Pentium Dual Cores, Core 2 Duos and the odd AMD. I suspect the P4's were old workstations that would've been in the lab at their heyday. And maybe that's why i enjoyed using those rather than the other more modern computers. In 2011/2012, we were on Windows 7 anyway, and we all know how W7 is a legend. It performed just fine, much how today an old C2D or early Core i3/Pentium performs just fine for general basic use. Later in 2013 they were all scrapped for brand-new Dell SFF's with Core i7-3770's. Now i have a 524 on my retrogaming machine! 768MB DDR2 (it's actually 1024 but the IGP draws 256 for itself), Geforce 7100 IGP (nForce 630i), 60+200GB IDE HDD's, Windows XP.
Nice video man, since i have some spare parts i will now build a Pentium 4 just for office use. I only work with Excel and search on the web so i guess its still gonna be a good choice (for a free pc).
I have an early HT Pentium 4, and it gets HOT! I have moved on to an i3 4th gen, and recently an Intel 8th Gen i7, but I came back to revisit it, and those fans feel like little space heaters.
I remember how happy I was to finally upgrade from that exact CPU that ran hotter than hell to a Core 2 DUO E8400...And then finally built my current PC starting with an AMD FX-4130, to now my AMD FX-8350.
I tried Minecraft on an Athlon XP. Only the versions up to 1.11 work, but with optifine and low res texture pack that one is playable. 1.5 runs really good.
This is an LGA 775 P4 with HT from 2005 though which is much faster than the original ones. You can often drop a Core 2 Quad in boards that support this CPU. I thought this would be a revisit of the ones from 2001/2002.
I have a Pentium 4. I got it from a French Society in my city for 60$. After a bit of tweeking to the OS to have it turned back into english and cleaning up some of the useless applications and files it ran smoother. I have a Radeon 9200 GPU inside of it, 3 gigs of RAM, still got the original HDD. Runs XP and I do old gaming of that time on it. Quake, Alpha Centauri, Yugioh, Baldurs Gate, Unreal Tournament. So much fun. I think people go a little over board with how much electricity they burn. There aren't efficent in any way, but there prolly not the worst thing out there. I use an old IBM crt monitor on it and everything plays nice and smoothly. Looks great. The screen is amazing for how old it is. Amd between the PC and the monitor, the monitor is probably worse for my electricity bill lol. Quake is high frame, looks good, good textures. Open GL is fun to play with. Never had an issue with that game. I can play fable on it as well. It took some tinkering, and the odd time here and there it stutters. But it looks good and runs fairly decent considering how much is going on in that game. I've just slowly pieced the machine together over time since I've had it. It took me almost 2 years just to find the monitor. Most people in canada throw em out or recycle them. So I got lucky and scooped up this low hour monitor for 20$. I love my Pentium 4. I'll get flak for it, but considering mine is from 2002 it still works great. That fuckers 17 years old and it's still kicking. Once the OS loads and it has a minute after that to breath it's very snappy. I can open and shut apps and windows and all that stuff fairly quickly. It isnt a browsing PC. Nor do I play online anything with it, at all. I dont even have it on the net.but for the hard copies of games I have it works awesome. I even have some stuff on 3.5 inch floppy I run and it's always so much fun just listening to that accessory work and do its thing. And I always get a burst of nostalgia looking at. It's big and ugly and beige. When I was a kid fancy cases were a right royal treat. I get why people hate P4s nowadays but, no ones using cell phones of that era for the same reasons lol life goes on. Technology gets better. I'll keep this thing going for as long as I can irregardless of how much hatred they get. Great video! Sorry for the rant.
Thanks for saving me the work involved in rescuing my old P4 2.8, which has been languishing in a cupboard. I'll just throw it out now, if I can figure where to throw it. And my Pentium 1. And my 386sx. All of them! OUT, out, out! I'll keep my 2005 Celeron laptop, though, as it's good for Torrenting.
I had a P4 660 that i used for years as my main machine (until roughly 2010). Thing was hotter than a volcano and I ran a water cooling system to keep the temps down and the system quiet.
Bruh one day of gaming with a p4 costs more electricity than the cpu itself.
That's true in the sense that the CPU is worthless but it's also very inefficient. That said -- the silicon inside it is worth far more than the CPU itself.
@Zero Efficiency Bullshit. Give an example. Throw top video card and CPU from past (like 2007) and present to compare power consumption.
@Zero Efficiency 1000 watts? my pc with a 9700k and a 2080 ti uses 550 watts max under furmark and prime95
@Zero Efficiency Thats not true. You can play every game on 1080p max settings with a 400w power supply today.
problem solver: get a core 2 duo instead, they are very cheap, so there is no point to a Pentium 4, and it even has a second core
I find it scary that someone would ask if GTA 5 runs on Pentium 4. That's not a normal question and they are not normal people.
But will it run Crysis???
Neuferkar1980 nope
@@Ocleg How do you know? Do you try?
But that does. Don't know how good it is.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior it's fuckin obvious
Should've tried running TF2, since it lists the Pentium 4 as a recommended processor.
Well that is not really any recent recommendations, it's unchanged since 2007 when it first released on steam.
Id say its more of a absolute minimum at this point with how cpu heavy it is on 2 cores, portal 2 minimum specs is more close too what TF2 needs id say.
@@Mini-z1994 4Head
@@Mini-z1994 Additionally, CS:GO will basically show you what TF2 would do here.
And also left4 dead
My Pentium 4 HT 3.0GHz (PGA478), 2GB DDR1, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 2x 40GB HDD, WinXP system can ran L4D2 pretty okay. I'm sure it could do a lot better with a better GPU as the 9800 Pro is slower than the Radeon X800 which is the official minimum requirement.
It can run Quake 3 at really high refresh rate. My WinXP system can run it at over 200+ fps
Oh the pentium and nature, exactly where it belongs (i.e. not in a Computer).
U r here.... Hello bryan
What are you talking about?! My old pentium 4 was a beast.
Oof Tech YES himself
In Dec 2020 I still use a Pentium 4 HT every week for a whole hour as backup-server 1.21TB (2 x IDE + 2 x SATA-1).
@Duncan Marcellus however pentium 4 might be created by intel
*casually has a drawer full of CPU's*
I casually had some CPUs in my pocket the other day.
that drawer probably costs 70 euro max
Ive got like 6 Pentium 4 and core 2 duo CPUs in my drawer as CEX only offered me 1p each for them so thought id rather keep them for fun lol
I think I just assumed everyone did
@@lexiriordan3589 I got a drawer of CPUs and im only 15
Put it back in the bin
Or bin it.
Then take a potato out of the bin and test that instead.
No make a keyring with it lol
burn it then bin it
Or be smart and build a great retro gaming PC build with it. Of course it's horrible for modern gaming and apps, but for pre Crysis PC gaming, it's a good choice.
Yeh but the overhead of having an operating system affects performance!
We be running CSGO:BIOS Edition
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Delete the Bios and stick the game on the cpu cache otherwise i dont accept your benchmarks
@@amused7928 Nah, the CPU microcode instructions overhead will affect the performance, it's better to code the game directly inside the chip itself
@@planetfifa 200iq thinking
@@amused7928 My etch a sketch runs it all so much faster!
I have a friend who's parents still have an ancient Dell with one of these exact processors. The system has 2 80GB Western Digital hard drives with 2GBs of DDR2 and it runs WIndows 7. Everything you do on this system proves to be a monumental task for this CPU. Amazingly 480P TH-cam playback is achievable with H264ify on Chrome. The hyperthreading is really the only thing keeping this CPU going these days, and barely at that.
I still use a Pentium 4 (3.2 GHz Northwood) on occasion.
If I ever need to do stuff on an old Windows XP environment, I fire up my old Dell Dimension 4600.
It's a bonus if I need to use a space heater as well.
Put a pentium D in there, it will be twice as fast and a heater twice as good!
I will try doing that in my dimension 5150. It awready has 4gb of ram
@@eduardoavila646 Eh, it's not really worth it, considering that I don't use it daily.
What it has already is more than adequate for what I use it for.
@@Watcher3223 Yeah, i mean my comment was more of a joke than anything.
Those machines are barelly usable nowdays.
I have one just for the sake of collecting tbh.
@@eduardoavila646 Sorry about my misunderstanding then.
Cheers.
i remember when i used mine in the summer and i had to play only in underwear because of how out my room would be at the end of the day, xD
and opened case with a big fan to it, AHAHAH
Still have that bastard and love him
Skyrim 19fps
Minecraft 19fps
LUL
The human eye can't see more than 19 fps.
Minecraft looks simple but isn't from a technical perspective.
@@thorham1346 I suspect that the Java virtual machine adds quite a bit of overhead.
@@490o Maybe, but technically it's still not as straightforward as it looks.
490o The most recent Minecraft no longer uses Java.
It’s all compiled in C++
Definitely would like to see more Pentium 4 tests with Lubuntu, Windows XP & 98SE (granted the later needs an unofficial patch to support 1GB RAM).
A friend of mine -plays- *_suffers_* CSGO on that pentium. Pressing ESC. Instantly crashes the game. Any matchmaking map crashes.
But he bought a Ryzen :D
Rocket League: You should have a 2.5ghz quad core chip to play this game.
Also rocket league: Is playable on a Pentium 4.
Well, it boils down to minimum requirements vs recommended requirements...
@@GameMaker3_5 Some people often look at the recommended specs only and barely look at minimum specs
I'll try it on a 3.73ghz quad core Pentium EEEE 990FX
I was kinda kidding about the whole pentium 4 in 2019 while you were streaming but I'm pretty happy you made a video out of it XD
You'd almost feel bad for the poor thing haha. Great work, I really like the wide array of games tested. I had a P4 as my main system from 2005 until early 2010. It played the early versions of Minecraft (alpha and early beta) pretty well if I recall correctly, but anything more than that and it would throw its hands up. When I finally got a Core 2 Quad it felt like a whole new world :p
5:52 my raspberry pi got more FPS in this game lul
Because it's just a stripped down Ver. Of minecraft on the raspberry pi
@DDD Productions only 1.8.9 java ran on the raspberry after cuwtom tweaks and instalaltions of java on the pi.sadly it doesnt actually work
I remember when the pentium 4 was brand new. When I was in high school, computers commonly used Pentium 2 or 3 processors
I'm using Pentium 4 3.00 ghz Northwood PC for retro gaming. It does the job well in dual booting win98 and winxp, it's great for listening to music, surfing the internet, watching movies via vlc player and playing games in general.
when you see 90nm and realise were around 12/7nm
Unless you're on intel, and stuck at 14nm+++ for years
@@Microang: Hey it takes a lot of bravery to release the same architecture 4 times.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial soon to be 5, the new one will also be the same but 10 cores 14++++ it seems
@@Microang Intel does the same mistake again, take the same process and pack more cores inside, will be the same as the Pentium D: unefficient and hot
@@han_2803 Intel has massive problems since AMD has become a valueable alternative again. They did not expect that. They were relying on their monopoly and thinking they could sell us the nearly exact same processors for 5 times in a row, now they have to power up their brain which has been crippeld by the years of inactivity
I must admit I missed the Pentium 4's as I was using AMD instead. I do have a P4 in a system though, a desktop p4 2.93ghz cpu in a laptop, although how you can call a 17" monster that weighs 10 lbs a laptop I dont know, plus the noise from the 3 fans was a little annoying.
Excellent Vid once again.
minecraft 1.6.4 actually runs ok on a P4 531
I was playing Minecraft on my p4 with onboard graphics when it first came out.
Good to see a video from you hopefully we will see more coming soon :). Since this CPU is a single core that's what's making it struggle this way, dual core CPU's will be doing much better for sure.
08:20: "Hit Man (2016)"
That triggered me more than it should. Well played!
Factorio is all I needed to hear that it could run. Hell yes!
Try GTA IV on windows XP and enable "Threaded opimization" on nvidia control panel (using nvidia GPU obviously)
view distance, detail distance and vehicle density turned to the lowest, gta 4 can actually be somewhat playable on a p4. ~20 fps. but these 3 settings need to be turned down since they put a lot of load on the cpu
Doesnt it struggle even on multicore cpus?
@@talvisota327 i completed GTA iV on my pentium 4, and i still have him. i wouldnt say that i had everything set to lowest thou and still had 25 to 35 +/-. But GTA IV is pretty bad optimized even my 2015 pc has fps drops sometimes, i remember that was one setting (i think related to shadows) that inn one par of the map i would be driving at 60fps +/- and next moment it would drop to 15fps, lowering the shadows and keep rest in high, fixes it.
Vice City should run well
True. ATi(aka AMD) had horrible drivers!!
Great video by my boy RandomReginaldInHD keep at it
'ello everyone and welcome.
How do you know that his name is Reginald?
@@batmangovno we're brothers in law
Rincyy wait really?!?
@@mashpotatoxx8139 yeah totally
when it launches you should see if it can run halo CE anniversary, considering the original halo ce was no problem for it
joshcogaming you mean when MCC launches right?
@@interestingcuber8591 you can play it right now if you sign up for the testing.
@@Mickaleb care to share the link where you sign up at?
@@musek5048 look it up
I just built a retro gaming PC with a Pentium 4 and 1gb of DDR1 :D
but can it run windows 98?
@@yukkuriwa it can run xp
@@yukkuriwa idk... Maybe 45fps with medium settings
@@BesteresPT yeah, start by turning anti-aliasing off, then preferably, you'd wanna turn shadows off but the expercience won't be great
@@pixxilutia6108 Turn on Shadows but disable bloom
if you compare it to an atom n270 that pentium 4 is a beast!
I did this exact comparison, couldn't believe it when I tested it. The Atom was a failure.
William. I still use this atom 270 with w7 starter sometmes. MSI wind PC, 2 GB ram. I give the system a 4 out of 10. It ran smoothly with XP, though. Windows score is now 2.2. I now mostly use atom x5 mini pcs.No complaints.
@@boowonder888 I had the Wind U 100 which would allow me to OC the CPU to 2GHz which helped quite a bit.
We don't talk about the atoms.
Remade, the new gen of atoms x5's are very, very usefull for small form pc's. They pack a punch while only drawing 10 watts of power and therefore doesnt need a fan. Perfect for normal use, even some cad software can run on it.
Mine hit 15 years now. Took it out, dusted it, upgraded XP to windows 7 and then to 8 and then to Windows 10.
I’m so surprised that for my day to day tasks, it works! With my 8800 GT, even Netflix works just fine.
One Core running flat out gets really hot. Hard to believe that our Note 8 has more processing power than the P2, still it was an interesting and noteworthy look at the old Pentium 4. Thank you. 👍
This was like taking a malaise era 7.5 liter Lincoln Continental for a lap around Laguna Seca.
WOW! This was my first CPU on my first PC. That thing was a beast for it's time. Ahhh memories. ;(
Meets the minimum requirements for League Of Legends.
Jonah Barden yeah, the BARE minimum mind you.
@@linkedius2532 Nah, a singlecore atom n455 @1.6ghz with 1gb of ram, Windows 7 32bit, a intefrated gma 3150 stealing 256mb of shared ram can run it even at around 17-19 fps.
And that atom is actually comparable to a 1133mhz pentium 3.
So yeah, a pentium 4 with a decent gpu can run it well actually.
@@eduardoavila646 the game yes
The new client nah
@@kyubeycoobie3568 Really is it that heavy? Well, at least you may choose to close it when the game opens to play it.
LoL plays fine on a p4 and a 256 mb gddr3 video card like a 8600gt ( I've tested it myself, got 60 fps on full hd but the shadows must be at lowest.
I have an old laptop with some PGA socket with a 130mm pentium 4 HT @3.2Ghz. I recently upgraded it to 1GB of RAM but I don't know how to back it up and whether there are drivers for windows 7 for the hardware in it, so until I can do that, I'm going to have to stay with windows xp. information on the internet iis hard to come by because not many people use windows xp nowadays.
We still use them in schools.
We have to run virtual box with windows 2012 and windows 8.1 on them
I cant exactly find out what we use in school cuz restrictions. But what I do know is that its a single core 1ghz cpu with 512mb of ram with 2TB SSDs....
And we are an IT "University" where they teach you that the highest core CPU ever has 8 cores.
@@Waldherz 8 core isn't the highest core ever
@@luvee659 I know lol.
@@thealien_ali3382 I was and am well aware of that xd
But thats german universities for you. You wont escape lies and outdated data if you leave regular schools behind
still got my p4 ddr1 with 2 gig of rams still got it and still working well , it was my longest survive pc in my belonging
Meanwhile in the future: *i9 9th gen in 2039?*
By that time cpu-usage will be optionally cloud-based so it will matter less.
Still holds up since *stuck in 14 namometers*
I9 is still going to be i9 in 2039 lol imagine using a 10 year old pc in 2009 and a 10 year old pc in 2019...
@@rikka0_059 yeah but I'm talking about after 20 years ahead in time not 10 years
Maybe we will have quantum computers by 2039.
I have one of the Pentium D's in a Dell XPS desktop. Fantastic for XP, if you don't mind the lights dimming when you turn it on.
I only really use it in the winter, since most of the power turns to heat I'm not really losing much money that way.
Yeah Skyrim on a Pentium D is pretty decent, like Xbox 360 level
That title made me think that I actually still have a use for my Dell dimension
Joycon Gaming I have that computer too but it broke down!
I have a Dell Dimension 4600. Works like a charm. Very slow tho
augus li yes, when is was searching for a file on the computer it would take like 10 minutes to find it
MaximilianMus replace the hard drive with an SSD. Makes a world of difference for all basic tasks like searching and copying files. I found a P4 system struggles with regular hard drives from the era. If your board only has IDE ports, you can pick up for cheap a SATA to IDE converter and even a 4 pin molex to SATA power adapter. An SSD can give you a little more like back to your dinosaur system :)
@@smgsngon5804 I cant run ubuntu. Does steam work on Lubuntu?
I remember when Pentium 4 was released back in 2000: it was an amazing piece of hardware. How time flies.
Amazing piece of hardware which was worse than what AMD had and worse than even Intel had in mobile. That said Hyper Threading was amazing feature back in the day. Just having second hardware thread for I/O and to prevent one application clogging all CPU time was improving experience of using system, especially when using heavier programs. With dual, quad, etc. core CPU's adding hardware threads doesn't make this kind of difference and actually due to how threads were scheduled it could even cause performance issues which single core Pentium 4 with HT never had. Anyways, Pentium 4 made sense only with Hyper Threading otherwise AMD CPU's had much better CPU's for the time.
See, now I feel all smug running my Intel Core 2 Extreme X9650 :D
*Challenge me with my tape overclocked 3.0GHz Core 2 Quad Q6600 >:D*
i see your Core 2 Extreme and raise you an i3 2120 lol
@@christineayres5339 Hahaha ;)
jezzermeii lol 😂 got my i3 in CEX £4 it cost me lol it’s surprisingly good in 2019 I’m playing 4K TH-cam with no stutter and considering it’s basically a hyper threaded core 2 duo that is very impressive
@@christineayres5339 Those early i-Series processors and late socket 775 processors are really surprising, aren't they? I don't really game as much as I did in the past, but for everyday usage, I literally have zero problems in terms of lag or anything like that. It was a great time for intel. However, I must confess, I would definitely be on the AMD side of the fence if I was to make a new build today. They definitely seem to give a lot more bang for buck compared to Intel these days. Thanks for your comment though, very interesting. :) I think it will still be a very long time before I change my set-up. Probably will wait until the components die of old age!
I still remember how hyped up I was with my shiny new P4 3Ghz for audio production. It was a dream.
That CPU is huge. Holy 90nm process node, could fit a whole town on top of it ...
Los anteriores procesadores eran a 130nm.
@@juancarlos22mx 180nm..250nm..350nm..500nm.. +++
My oldest PC is rocking a Pentium 4 (2.9Ghz) with 1GB ram in the windows XP! Nice vid!
I just finished changing my Windows XP gaming pc case, Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 3gb of ram, 8800 GTX and a 240GB SSD, windows XP master race!!!
Jaime Cobo Vicente do you only play games from the xp era too?
kennedy moreiras not only from that era but mostly, my motherboard just died yesterday and I changed the mb and cpu. Now rocking a core 2 quad q8300 and 4gb of ram, you have a setup for windows xp?
Jaime Cobo Vicente nah, I run windows 10, but I used to play on a core 2 duo windows seven when I played only Minecraft and flash games.
kennedy moreiras well, my main pc is an I7 1060 machine also running windows 10. I play csgo and mostly racing games on a g920 😁
Jaime Cobo Vicente ahh, I see now. I thought your only rig was the xp machine.
I use my 3Ghz Prescott box as a PfSense router. Not exactly power efficient, but more than sufficient for a 100Mbps connection, OpenVPN, a squid caching proxy server and the PC was free from a recycle pile.
Pentium 4 2019 - R.I.P
I'm old enough that I remember back when I had a Pentium III and to watch videos I would download them and REENCODE THEM to something my computer could handle, maybe turn them into a DVD and watch on a DVD player.
if I'm not wrong Mirror's Edge has the P4 as minimum requirement 🤔
This channel has a really similar style and premise as Green Ham Gaming. Only difference is that GHG hasn’t uploaded in 8 months.
Glad I found this channel, I’m hooked and subbed.
source games were notoriously bad to run on single core cpus back in the day. TF2 was the reason I wanted a core 2 quad so badly, but when I got a 3770k I didn't even play TF2 much. lmao
TF2 use to be able to maintain 60FPS on a core 2 quad with max settings, now it struggles and you constantly see 30s-40s and every once in a while it'll reach 60fps. source wasn't that bad on a single core system, i use to play gmod and TF2 and half-life 2 DM, and zombie panic source and other source mods on a pentium 4 with a 6800 gt and it ran well. now you couldn't even begin to run those game with a system like that.
I threw Windows 7 on a P4 HT 3.4Ghz, I actually had a lot fun during the evening I was using it I completely forgot I was on a 15yo computer, talking on discord, watching youtube via VLC, and playing some old games as well as some other random stuff. 10/10 would use again.
hmm trying to use a p4 (or even something older) for a week or so as my main system sounds like a fun challenge
ryzen 3900x price in 2019 : 530 €
Price in 2040 : 2€
Bruh
My pentium 4 rig is still working. Couple USB ports are dead but it’s still working lol. Factory HDD and fans, I want to take it out of storage one day.
you should do a comparison between 3 sockets, 432,478and 775. aka the Willamette, Northwood and Prescott.
I have a p4 2.4ghz Northwood. It bottlenecks need for speed most wanted, even at low graphics.
My memories on the 423 Willamette were horrifying + their abnormal memory modules (RDRAM).
I'll throw in LGA 1542, and in the future Socket 2416
I have a P4 630 in an ancient HP "small form factory" computer (that I admittedly rarely use), and I am impressed by how... well... "good" this machine still works for "light" office and internet surfing work (with Linux Mint 19.1 xfce on it).
Pentium 4 631 era mejor porque está fabricado en 65nm.
Hold on let me get a brew real quick...
Gotta admit though, the P4 even starting those games is pretty impressive for a 2000s processor.
90s actually, I believe
@@kire929 Pentium 4 first came out in 2000.
@@jonnyOysters Ah, I thought it was released in 1999. I guess I bought that fucking expensive manually built computer in 2000.
i found under my bed a intel core duo
that processor was from my first pc which was crap ...
Nice video!
I had one 660 P4 (3.6Ghz with HT), the IHS was soldered, the solder went gradually really bad, and in the end, idle temperature was 70ºC with a massive Gigabyte 3D Rocket cooler. Although, the thermals never were good. 115W TDP they said. Unless you check the Max. power dissipation: 148W...
Throw it in the same bin that you found. Then, lit the bin on fire. Then, throw the bin to a swamp. And then, lit the swamp on fire. But be quick, it may catch fire itself before all that. The world will thank you for it. Cheers.
Still using it in 2k19 and still a beast in 2k19 💪
Psychol what?a beast? Bruh just get a core 2 duo p4 is shit
Your vids are always awesome!
i have a pentium 4 w/1gig ram running linux mint... works better than windows
I totally agree!
Just built my retro rig with a P4:
Pentium 4 HT 3.0GHz
1GB RAM
ASUS Radeon 9550
100GB HDD
Awesome video!
the REAL p4 was the earlier PGA variant
Yes, they are even crappier
the 478 versions?
Watching this on a PC with an Intel Pentium 4 @ 3.20GHz and 4 GB ram. It's been running from new, since 2003 without problems, except 4 or 5 replacement IDE hard drives. It used to run WinXP but now it's Linux. Everyone hates the P4, but just for the Net, it's ok. I keep my P4 box because it just lives on. It's been going 16 years and it will likely reach 20.
Pentium 4 is a good choice if you want to cook bacon in your PC
I actually ran on one of these until 2014 as unbelievable as that sounds but it was on windows xp, i think you would get better results on that OS. I played a lot of minecraft and i definitely remember having over 30 fps on 1.7.10. Hope you make another video with linux and XP, i will watch it for sure.
Who cares about live comments?
I'm pretty sure that the dead ones wont
I wondered where all my IO shields went when I tried to find them while selling my old boards, and you have them in your drawer.
I run my Pentium 3 at 5Ghz on the stock cooler
Show us
*pc glows red because of the melting cpu*
Eduardo Avila ok I will make a video
@@honestrunescaper Nice
Ali Can Sariaslan how on earth is it still alive
I remember the Pentium 4 being the big base on system requirements for a lot of programs and browsers, since trying to get things on a Pentium III wouldn't work and would usually come up with the message saying it requires Pentium 4 or better. I never owned one I had a much worse Celeron 420 processor for my first owned computer but it definitely is interesting to see the Pentium being used quite a bit still and seems to handle basic things alright. Its pretty much the time though that most people won't be using single core processors anymore and most these days at least come with a duel core. It just isn't up for what technology has for us today, and especially with fewer instructions than newer processors thats also the killer. Core 2 would still probably be one of the best processors to use for general stuff and a bit of light and indie gaming, some of them sometimes still keep up. Of course all technology ages and moves on, but its still nice to see how people can still put this old stuff into use in a way.
The Pentium 4, the flathead v8 of the computing world
great vids and enjoy your content, just wanted to say you REALLY should had thrown in or tested a socket 478 p4 too. they perform differently enough to be worth the two different tests and the 478 version i've found to be even more common and limiting than the 775 versions.
plus, i've found (and this isn't for benchmarking, what you are doing is fine) that for actual gaming and the experience itself, it's better and you do get a bit better performance if you don't use top of the line current graphics cards with them. again, for your benchmarks it does what it needs to do, but what you really want if one is really planning to game on it is the "strongest" gpu that would allow the cpu to run most things out there without any issues, but as old as it can comfortably be, and sometimes even not use the newest drivers, the least bloated newest ones that still do what you need to do. sometimes just having a more "simple" gpu stresses the cpu less during it's normal operation.
EDIT: but yeah, the 478 version i find way more limiting than the 775 version. the 775 version is newer obviously, but has the chance of having ht, can at least upgrade to a pentium d most times, will usually have a pcie slot on the board, better integrated graphics usually on the board if you use them, and almost guaranteed ddr2 support. 478 sticks you with agp slots, ddr1 ram, the ht model is much rarer but still not super rare, and integrated graphics can sometimes be even that old 82865 and only up to the gma950 i believe.
all that being said, i can still whip together "modern" systems with both of them depending on the customer and the needs. the crappiest pentium 4 is still great for running windows 7 or older while hopping right into email, craigslist, word processing, old gaming, etc. some people just only want that and even the cheapest walmart machine is overkill and expensive for them.
Forget about the pentium, I want to see that galaxy s2 running pie 😂
The Galaxy S2 originally shipped with Gingerbread (!) and official support stopped around the Jellybean era. Given how underpowered an S2 really is (even my S4 is struggling a little bit on it's original 4.2 Jellybean now), and given how reports of the S4 not being very nice on Lollipop was (Lollipop was the last official OS for the S4), I'd be amazed that you can even get the install files for Pie on an S2, let alone see if it works...
To put this into perspective, I remember the Budget Builds episode of the Galaxy Ace, which also started at (and currently is still on) Gingerbread, and that was nigh on impossible to use. The same can be said about my Galaxy Ace Plus.
@@TheSpotify95 The galaxy s2 is much more powerful than the galaxy ace though. I think, with the right rom, that you'd be able to use an s2 op pie in 2019.
@@TheSpotify95 my s4 on lolipop runs well
Sorry about my english, but this processors have the same IPC of "Flash", the statal worker of Zootopia. Buen video! Gracias!
Ur videos make me consider building one of these terrible computers my main pc has a core 2 duo can't get csgo browser slow and hasn't been cleaned in about 8 years 😎Ty for the like sorry for late update only 33 seconds after u likes 16 likes most I've ever got
I consider upgrading to a q6600 and do the BSEL mod to OC it to 3 GHz with a piece of tape and also upgrade the GPU. I have a 660 Ti paired with my 3GHz modded Q6600 and CSGO runs on max and 1080p with 60fps.
I went to high-school in 2011/2012 and my school's library still had those! With 2GB ram and a 6800GT no less. Those days the school library PC's were a pick-and-mix mismatch of parts, with Pentium Dual Cores, Core 2 Duos and the odd AMD. I suspect the P4's were old workstations that would've been in the lab at their heyday. And maybe that's why i enjoyed using those rather than the other more modern computers. In 2011/2012, we were on Windows 7 anyway, and we all know how W7 is a legend. It performed just fine, much how today an old C2D or early Core i3/Pentium performs just fine for general basic use.
Later in 2013 they were all scrapped for brand-new Dell SFF's with Core i7-3770's.
Now i have a 524 on my retrogaming machine! 768MB DDR2 (it's actually 1024 but the IGP draws 256 for itself), Geforce 7100 IGP (nForce 630i), 60+200GB IDE HDD's, Windows XP.
Didnt watch the video yet, but let me guess:
It's gonna be a shit parade
Nice video man, since i have some spare parts i will now build a Pentium 4 just for office use. I only work with Excel and search on the web so i guess its still gonna be a good choice (for a free pc).
I actually run a pc with pentium 4 3.40ghz
I am not kidding
With integrated graphics
I have a pentium 4 3.40 ghz and 3gb ddr3 ram. Dual Channel. Ati Radeon 2400 pro. Got it for free. Works great.
I have an early HT Pentium 4, and it gets HOT! I have moved on to an i3 4th gen, and recently an Intel 8th Gen i7, but I came back to revisit it, and those fans feel like little space heaters.
AMD has more driver overhead than Nvidia and that will drastically change the results
i no longer watch these videos for the content, but for the narration
I remember how happy I was to finally upgrade from that exact CPU that ran hotter than hell to a Core 2 DUO E8400...And then finally built my current PC starting with an AMD FX-4130, to now my AMD FX-8350.
Great to see you back in my feed
I tried Minecraft on an Athlon XP. Only the versions up to 1.11 work, but with optifine and low res texture pack that one is playable. 1.5 runs really good.
This is an LGA 775 P4 with HT from 2005 though which is much faster than the original ones. You can often drop a Core 2 Quad in boards that support this CPU. I thought this would be a revisit of the ones from 2001/2002.
I have a Pentium 4. I got it from a French Society in my city for 60$. After a bit of tweeking to the OS to have it turned back into english and cleaning up some of the useless applications and files it ran smoother. I have a Radeon 9200 GPU inside of it, 3 gigs of RAM, still got the original HDD. Runs XP and I do old gaming of that time on it. Quake, Alpha Centauri, Yugioh, Baldurs Gate, Unreal Tournament. So much fun. I think people go a little over board with how much electricity they burn. There aren't efficent in any way, but there prolly not the worst thing out there. I use an old IBM crt monitor on it and everything plays nice and smoothly. Looks great. The screen is amazing for how old it is. Amd between the PC and the monitor, the monitor is probably worse for my electricity bill lol. Quake is high frame, looks good, good textures. Open GL is fun to play with. Never had an issue with that game. I can play fable on it as well. It took some tinkering, and the odd time here and there it stutters. But it looks good and runs fairly decent considering how much is going on in that game. I've just slowly pieced the machine together over time since I've had it. It took me almost 2 years just to find the monitor. Most people in canada throw em out or recycle them. So I got lucky and scooped up this low hour monitor for 20$. I love my Pentium 4. I'll get flak for it, but considering mine is from 2002 it still works great. That fuckers 17 years old and it's still kicking. Once the OS loads and it has a minute after that to breath it's very snappy. I can open and shut apps and windows and all that stuff fairly quickly. It isnt a browsing PC. Nor do I play online anything with it, at all. I dont even have it on the net.but for the hard copies of games I have it works awesome. I even have some stuff on 3.5 inch floppy I run and it's always so much fun just listening to that accessory work and do its thing. And I always get a burst of nostalgia looking at. It's big and ugly and beige. When I was a kid fancy cases were a right royal treat. I get why people hate P4s nowadays but, no ones using cell phones of that era for the same reasons lol life goes on. Technology gets better. I'll keep this thing going for as long as I can irregardless of how much hatred they get. Great video! Sorry for the rant.
Thanks for saving me the work involved in rescuing my old P4 2.8, which has been languishing in a cupboard. I'll just throw it out now, if I can figure where to throw it. And my Pentium 1. And my 386sx. All of them! OUT, out, out! I'll keep my 2005 Celeron laptop, though, as it's good for Torrenting.
P4 is like magic word back then. I think its the only proc I ever see with an ad on tv.
Pentium 4 HT 640 was my first (own) Desktop CPU. I use it up to 2010 and play GTA 4, Dirt 2, Crysis 1 and Prototyp on it.
It's incredible that runs that well with the new games with an old cpu like this.
Just wondering: did you update the BIOS to the latest version before running these tests? BIOS updates often include CPU microcode updates etc.
Great video mate remember my old pentium 4 did the job at the time
I love the fact you are filming your screen with your phone :P
I had a P4 660 that i used for years as my main machine (until roughly 2010). Thing was hotter than a volcano and I ran a water cooling system to keep the temps down and the system quiet.