Conquering the Top
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2023
- Top O’ the Town is the star at the top of Wet-Dry World. Interestingly, it’s exactly 1 unit too high to reach with a rollout, which is why it originally took 1 A press to collect ( • SM64 - Top O' the Town... ). Later, we discovered the “light chuckya via edge” glitch, which allowed us to collect the star in 0 A presses by having chuckya throw Mario into the star ( • SM64 - Top O' the Town... ). Even later, we found that the “light chuckya via edge” glitch wasn’t necessary for getting chuckya over to the star, as we could do it with heavy chuckya ( • WDW Top O' Town 0xA Al... ). However, I believe it would be most consistent to label strats just by what provides the extra height to reach the star, not the setup to get to that point. So I’m retroactively merging the light chuckya and heavy chuckya strats to be just the chuckya strat. Later, we found that chuckya wasn’t necessary at all, as we could use vertical speed conservation (VSC) to reach the star ( • WDW Top O' Town 0xA Al... ). And after that, we found 2 more alternative strats, which were to use a skeeter ( • WDW Top O' Town 0xA Al... ) and to use a fire ( • WDW Top O' Town 0xA Al... . In total, that made 4 unique strats.
But now, I present 2 more alternative strats: using a heave-ho ( • WDW Top O' the Town 0x... ) and using a teleporter ( • WDW Top O' the Town 0x... ). I had known for a while that both of these were close to working. In fact, I knew the heave-ho strat would work if we could just achieve a particular HOLP that was super high up ( • WDW Top O' Town 0xA He... ). Recently, I re-examined how feasible that HOLP was, and found that it was just BARELY possible to achieve in BitS, by using BCA to construct a goomba staircase. Note that there are 3 heave-hos in WDW, and they’d all turn back towards their home after being thrown high up. That meant each heave-ho works with a different HOLP, since they’d heave Mario at different angles, and you need that angle to be towards the star. Only one of these HOLPs was reachable in BitS, which was the HOLP for the highest heave-ho. But that introduced another problem: we normally use that heave-ho to get up to chuckya’s platform. But if that heave-ho is at the high HOLP, it can’t help us with that. So I found a workaround, which was to rollout off a sign, use a star dance clip to get onto the slope, and then dive grind over to chuckya’s platform.
Once I got the heave-ho strat working, that meant we had 5 different strats. But I realized 6 strats would look so much cooler in terms of filling up the screen elegantly. So with that as my motivation, I worked hard to get the teleporter strat working. I had known already that a teleporter clone released on top of the star block would allow us to teleport directly onto the star block. And that HOLP was definitely achievable in WF. But the issue was that that HOLP placement was incompatible with the way I get chuckya into the tunnel. In contrast, let’s say we currently have the HOLP used for the skeeter clone and fire clone. That HOLP is near the very front edge of the star platform. Then if Mario’s on the bottom of the course, has the hat in hand glitch, and drops chuckya, chuckya appears at Mario due to a failsafe, since that drop would have placed chuckya out of bounds. Specifically, it would have placed him underneath the floor that the blue coin block is on. But if the HOLP is instead above the star block (which is not as near the front edge of the star platform), then dropping chuckya from the bottom of the course would place him inbounds, and so we don’t get the failsafe anymore. And without the failsafe, I couldn’t make chuckya appear at Mario to get chuckya into the tunnel. But that didn’t stop me. I wanted the 6 simultaneous screens so bad that through sheer force of will, I found a workaround. Specifically, I found that we can use the pushable block to clip chuckya through the wall, causing him to fall into the tunnel right at the loading zone. And with that final breakthrough, the 6 strats for collecting Top O’ the Town 0xA were achieved.
And so I present this video as a testament to how far we’ve come in terms of SM64 knowledge. Top O’ the Town is placed at the very top of the course, just 1 unit too high to reach, almost as if to taunt us. We originally needed a whole A press just to overcome that 1 unit gap. But now with years of accumulated knowledge (cloning, hat in hand, light chuckya via edge, chuckya wrong throw, behind camera anywhere, hyper speed walking, vertical speed conservation, star dance clip), we’ve not only reduced this star to 0 A presses, but did so in 6 different ways. And so without a doubt, this star has been conquered.
Thanks to clintd7 (www.fiverr.com/clintd7/make-s...) for voicing Mario. And thanks to Kaze ( / @kazen64 ) and his wife Zeina ( / of_zeina ) for making Mario’s bowing animation. - เกม
"But I realized 6 strats would look so much cooler in terms of filling up the screen elegantly. So with that as my motivation, I worked hard to get the teleporter strat working."
Pannen, what the fuck.
Pannon the overworking gigachad.
Edit: Just realized if he hadn't combined the light and heavy Chuckya strats, he'd have no reason to pursue the teleporter strat.
Lmao I love this so much
> But I realized 6 strats would look so much cooler in terms of filling up the screen elegantly
Absolute mad lad!
Pannen be routing an entire 55 min strat for the most mundane possible reason
I love how the difference between 1st and 2nd is 4 seconds and the difference between 2nd and 3rd is 52 minutes
French presidential elections in a nutshell
@@TheGael95 presidential elections in a nutshell
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And then the difference between 3rd and 4th is just 13 seconds
im watching 4 marios hyperspeed walk in place for 10 minutes and i love it
I agree, fellow OneShot fan
I was calling you a until I saw I just wasn't far enough into the video. 🤣
1:23:14 Heave-Ho is like: let me yeet you to the star. It is worth the 1 hour effort and very cool.
It gets extra points for style
I don't know what I'm watching but I am nonetheless in awe
Welcome to the Super Mario Sixty Four A Button Challenge community brother.
Inb4 dragonwizerd solves the ABC
@@magnumsmth
On January 28th, 2023, a hapless observer made their first comment on one of Pannen's videos. Little did they, or anyone else know, but this hapless observer was no ordinary commenter. In the coming few years, their ingenuity would prove to be the driving force needed to polish off the final, seemingly impossible A-presses. This commentor was none other than the legendary dragonwizerd.
The ending to the heave-ho strat is godlike, and also hilarious 😂
It's amazing that this many strats were found by now. I still remember the video where you showed the possible ways to collect it 0x back when that wasn't even possible
Heave-Ho was so meme worthy in live chat.
52:36 In case you want to see the finale of Skeeter and fire.
My favorite is the Heave-Ho strat. I just gets so many style points.
To see each one finish:
0:47 VSC Strat
0:51 Chuckya Strat
53:16 Skeeter Strat
53:29 Fire Strat
54:57 Teleporter Strat
1:23:16 Heave-Ho Strat
(This is different from the times shown in the video because the star animation takes 4 seconds)
o7
All at once: 1:23:24
That heave-ho has some comedic timing I tell ya
You gotta love how five of them are WDW then you just got whomps on the top right just chilling, then even more later with bowser and stuff
this ending was beautiful.
i cant believe it took me 5 minutes into the video to realize its about an hour and a half long
love the ending with the alternate syncing for collecting the stars, and the great painting at the end
yes, I remember doing the heave-ho strat as a kid
52:41 - Marios start escaping their HSW hell
Man the ending was crazy
I watched it live; I lurked for about 53 minutes though. Seeing the different strats was amazing though, taking from 51 seconds to 1 hour 23 seconds and 20 seconds, of which the latter one is the most important. I'm glad I got back right when the hightlight was about to come: Getting that star with the help of a Heave-Ho. It is truly unbelievable how many hours of work got put into each strat to find out, refine it, fricking TAS it, and then record and goddamn edit it. After watching my first premiere of this video, though only in parts, made me appreciate even more how much time you put into SM64 and how much love and determination you must have to go so far to accomplish things in this game that were thought very improbable to impossible merely moments before a video is uploaded by you to the watchers. Of course the whole ABC team is to be praised and appreciated for all the efforts that everyone has put into this challenge which isn't yet over. Here's to even more interesting discoveries which help to make the ABC run faster, but also to all disappointing observations which help to understand the game even more and think of even crazier, new strats! Cheers!
Now let's conquer the _bottom_ which is that star inside the infamous ocean cave
conquer the bottom? not that hard, knowing them.
,,UwU,,
@@ruludos1977 fatherless behavior
How did you know?
This is a very cool watch! I liked seeing another application of goomba engineering and behind camera anywhere, even if it is the slowest strat. goomba bridges/ladders are one of the "older" tricks while BCA is more "recent", so it has a cool feeling of progression. Seeing them come together to give us that beautiful mid-air heave-ho catch is awesome. Great work on getting these two new strategies working! I wonder what the times would be like on actual hardware, since I reckon that the goomba ladder would cause enough lag to make a difference in the final times.
THE ENDING WTH
Wonder who did the voice?
You could do it in under a minute... or you could spend an hour and a half breaking the laws of physics!
[takes off glasses]
[breathes on glasses]
[wipes down glasses]
[adjust glasses back on noggin]
[peers intently]
Excuse me sir, but that looks a lot like Bowser in the Sky.
This was such a beautiful journey.
And that's the importance of editing and fast forwarding the videos
Id love more vids like this, showing all the strats over the years. Amazing
Mario does low-level reality warping to avoid jumping at all costs
leave it to pannen to discover a whole strat for the sake of visual aesthetic
1:24:02 I thought for a bit that the theme from Super Dragon Ball Heroes was going to start playing here😂.
This here is what I can most certainly call a Masterpiece! Well done, Pannen! I look forward to more crazy strats as always from you and your friends! Congratulations!
The ending, what a magnificence, truly proud to be suscríber of this channel
PLEASE WATCH THE END BEFORE CLICKING OFF ⚠️⚠️⚠️
I watched this upload first, and I'm a little happy for myself to have noticed that two of the strats were new for this video, from recognizing the other strategies from previous videos
Such a beautiful journey
Incredible work.
It's honestly amazing that we finally did it!
Very cool mario science as always.
That ending was beautiful
Heave’s Feed and Seed. Formerly Chuckya’s
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Heave's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", slant-rhyming with the name of the owner, Heave. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuckya's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uckya", rhyming with "Chuckya". So, when Chuckya owned the shop, it would have been called, well, I don't need to elaborate on it any further. A truly genius work of comedy.
that outro was actually amazing
THAT WAS AMAZING PANNEN!
cannot wait for Fire sea strats
great now I have to watch this video 6 times over
Either pancake man really hates this star or he loves it, there is no in between
Pancake man loves all the stars. The hate is coming from Plush and Tyler
@@mathphysicsnerd wait what? Now I’m genuinely curious, please elaborate
Skeeter clutched against us fire-bros. I was there. But still, this was such an entertaining premiere.
One must imagine Mario happy...
Amazing!!!
The last one is so cool
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Great video! Thanks for uploading!
How many strats for this star are there now?
Looks like 6
@@funtonite Neat! Thanks for clarifying!
Amazing
You say in the description that this star has been conquered but your only message in the live chat was that it was a massive headache to get it down from 1xA to 0xA and so you wanted to find multiple ways of beating it 0xA with time being of no issue (implicitly because of the new strats). That sounds like a personal grudge to me, is it though?
And with you wanting to find more ways to beat it like that, are you planning on finding even more ways to get it 0xA to showcase? (Probably uploaded in an even number of ways, 'cause it looks nicer :P)
amazing ending
oh shit mario’s getting top!!!❤❤❤
Heave-Ho bros can't stop winning
Haven't read the title yet but I know this video will be good
zamn the heave-ho strat is dope af
so epic
Wow!
I knew this was possible!
also it's very funny watching mario place the all-important HOLP in BitS and then plummet unceremoniously to his death
6 strats? Amazing
I didn't check the length of the video until 5 minutes in. I don't know why I expected anything different!
Aww hell yeah
that ending tho
splashing intensifies
Is it possible to overflow the water level and get to the block using that? Or would the game move mario too high?
Interesting
I have no idea whats going on. But it looks cool.
He came out from the bottom, and into the top.
Very Nice!!
that ending LUL
Does trying to clone the star (after breaking the box) through the loading zone not work in this case?
Guess who's back
Back again
Pannen’s back, tell a friend
A unique challenge comparison, and it isn’t even April 1st!
I wonder if SM64 devs ever see ABC strats and lose their marbles like we plebs do
Put this on the main channel bcuz at the end there is commentary
Fishsticks or breadsticks, which one do you prefer
Wouldn't a Chuk-ya wrong throw work too?
Game is labeled smash 64?
Is the water surface an object affected by the HOLP as well? I feel like I am following what's happening here, but it's still all above my head 😂
EDIT: actually, no. Nothing's really a mystery to me, with the only exception being the water levels dropping while in the tunnel.
The water naturally goes up and down in a cycle, but passing through the loading zone at the right time desynchs the cycle. If you interrupt it going back up, the water level ends up slightly lower than it started. Repeating this lets you set the water level wherever you want. Some other stars even involve setting the maximum water level at 0, so an underflow error sets the minimum level very high, and the level alternates periodically between completely flooded and completely dry.
It's the Quick Race Through Down Town video on the main channel
Heave-Ho bros
Pannen could count two Chukya strats as one and have this video shows four different screens instead he developed two new strategies. Pannen is the best.
just note, these are only new strats, not one of the last 14
Gg
Hello, future me!
Is raising the water viable for this
I was here
Can this be done in Treasure of the Ocean Cave?
The star spawns too far from the edge for vsc, and Jolly Roger Bay doesn't have any of the entities used in this video, so no.
1:23:46 this was surely the epiciest moment in the video
How to get from a strat taking 1 hour to 1 minute is what amazes me about you
The strat already took 1 minute, but pannen decided to make the 1 hour strats because of how long this star took to get down to 0x
@@want-diversecontent3887 i see
Why would you use anything other than VSC?
Why would one want to do this star without jumping in the first place? The point is that it can be done, so Pannen went ahead and did it, just because he wanted to
So can i start eating?
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I just got here what happened
now don't blink
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@@6ic6ic6ic hi
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skeeter moaned as fire pushed- nevermind
But when will we get to hear your lovely voice again bro?
His voice is only going to be on his main channel and it takes extremely a lot of effort to make videos for there due to the quality
Probably not until an optimal 120 run is complete. I imagine Tyler will be the one who commentates the 70 star run, unless someone finds an upstairs skip