Interesting takes. Nice catch on Charon's obols! That being said, here's some deeper lore context that elaborates more on Granum's reputation as an individual, and the significance of the Solar Rails versus the Railjacks in the quest. Parvos Granum is a pastiche of a very specific type of capitalist - the same way Nef Anyo is a satire of megachurch pastors and Frohd Bek refers to the military-industrial complex (mostly in the North American cultural context). Overall, the Corpus are a critique of neoliberal capitalism and theocracy combined, and those social structures have strong thematic similarities that make them ripe with storytelling potential. But the main thing is that Parvos Granum is patterned after the American frontier's railway barons and titans of industry, sources of the myth of "pulling oneself up by the bootstraps" and valorized as symbols of hard work and grit. In reality, they were ruthless, exploitative opportunists who would do almost anything in the name of profit - who would cut any deal and backstab any partner if it meant the success of their very concrete aspirations. Rather than being passive boardroom executives who just talk over imaginary numbers, they were willing to get dirty. And isn't that the essence of Parvos? A man who will do whatever it takes to get ahead - even if it's cutting deals with the anarcho-syndicalist Vox Solaris on one hand, and forming a private armada on the other. As for the last part of the lyrics... Railjacks are named such because they aren't bound by the Solar Rails; their void drives allow them to sail into unknown space and be assured of a return, except in extreme cases like that of Sevagoth. They're exploration vessels, capable of charting the most mysterious and dangerous depths of the Origin System, venturing far beyond the Proximas if need be. That's why Vala is so hell-bent on taking yours at first; Parvos desires what his long imprisonment has denied him, which is to say, the freedom to traverse the Void. It's his one weakness, so to speak; perhaps even his one fear, to again be lost in the Void without a way back. And a Railjack would solve his problem, as well as grant him the means to conquer the Origin System with a fleet of rail-independent warships. What this has to do with the lyrics is that the freedom we enjoy to zip around the Proximas like nightmares out of the Void - exactly like the Tempestarii, appearing from nowhere and wreaking havoc - is in stark contrast to the fear experienced by ordinary captains when they look out at the uncharted space beyond the Rail lines and the Proximas. To them, everything outside of the trade lines is basically Here Be Monsters - stray too far, and you're gone forever, lost in the cold below. It's hard to convey through gameplay, but it really shows just how alien the Tenno are in contrast to the average Crewman or Lancer. Just another bit of cultural interest.
I absolutely agree with your take on Granum; it's why his return makes the Corpus a far more dangerous prospect due to his character; in a way he reminds me of Daniel Day Lewis' Character from there will be blood. Obsessed with success, and inflating wealth but a very active and violent participant in gaining that wealth rather than the 'fat cats' who sit idle on the corpus boardroom.
@@SmoughTown Exactly. Ever since Deadlock I've been excited to see what they do with Granum moving forward, and whether we'll see the fallout of the Corpus' internal conflict enact big changes in their overall power hierarchy. The great thing is that there's a degree of genuine unpredictability to a character who will deal with absolutely anyone if he has something to gain.
Bro, i havent watched the video and you summed up why i like Parvos, he is willing to do the work but that doesnt mean is good. Also the Railjack part of your comment speak the most for me. As someone who likes to use is, the fact that its free from the Solar Rail also speaks volumes of the Tenno. Even in their own spaceship, the Tenno are free and more powerful than any force on the Origin System. Your comment made me even love Railjacks as a whole since they do represent the mobility and Freedom the Tenno have, now on Deep Space and in the Void.
About the part were the Tenno are alien to the Corpus and Grineer, the first time I've ever heard about Warframe was from TotalBiscuit (R.IP) and he mentioned that Warframe felt to him like a reverse of the classic boss fight, were you are the "average" grunt taking on the big bad boss, to the you are that boss breaking into a base and the Corpus/Grineer are the average grunts protecting their homes and such.
The Tenno are what lurk in the dark, I have honestly imagined corpus parents scaring their kids to be good/go to bed or the Tenno will come and get them. I mean yes we are technically the good guys, But I feel like we still scare the shit out of people we do not have a beef with.
Between We All Lift and Cold Below, I have to wonder if music is a big part of Corpus culture. I know the Solaris aren't technically Corpus, but they've worked for the Corpus and Nef Anyo for years, so Corpus culture would probably rub off on them in that time.
seeing as they music is a big part of religion it wouldn't be that difficult to assume they have holy hymns for parvos, and maybe a few written by or for nef
This is a great analysis, but one thing I think a lot of people overlook is that the song may not have been composed by Vala at all, nor just a 'hallucination' of hers, as I've seen other people interpret it. She says that she dreamed her sisters were "singing with her yet". That YET is incredibly important, because it implies that they have sung the same song together before, and she is now hearing it as she thinks of them, more of a memory than a hallucination. Combined with the song's nature as a sea shanty, and the way Parvos is referred to in a very distant tense despite Vala apparently knowing him decently well, makes me think that "Sleeping in the Cold Below" is a song that would be sung often among Vala's old crew while working, as is the purpose of a sea shanty. This is just my interpretation, but I haven't heard anyone else share my view so I thought I'd share it.
Ohhh thank you for pointing out that one thing I felt didn't fully add up with this and many other interpretations. On one end, maybe Valla is a huge ancient history buff who reads up on what it was like to sail before spacefaring, just for fun, and this kind of comforts/fuels her during the time she spent drifting alone, finding solace in how so many before her faced this kind of horror. So she adds these ye oldé expressions to the song as it keeps her sane-ish through the ordeal. But it feels to me *much* more sensible that this is an old, oral history form of song, a sea shanty sung through generations of workers. Some old names and terms stuck around because you'd mess up the rhythm/rhyme too much otherwise, but it's also got some newer names like Granum and his legacy added because the workers revere him - willingly or not. I very much more vibe with the latter explanation on a personal level, since songs that mean a lot to me and remind me of good times has very often let me push through the shitty times. Like, I haven't had to float through space alone surrounded by the corpses of my fiends just yet, but you can bet your ass I'd be frantically humming songs to keep myself sane if it ever came to that.
The Tempestarii was supposedly a "rescue vessel". Yet it attacked a corpus station. Leading to the total destruction of the station. Think of how our rescue missions are structured. Go in, retrieve (preferably undetected) and evacuate. I really don't think the objective the Tempestarii received that day was to rescue at all... and I also think Captain Vala knows that, since the Corpus had the records until we stole them. Something doesn't add up.
The Tempestarii went down in a Void Storm during the Old War. Is it possible that it sometimes breaks out of the Void, causing Void Storms wherever it appears? Maybe a Void Storm is what destroyed Lucretia Platform. We’re not given any answer as to how EXACTLY it was destroyed. We just know it was destroyed.
Well rescue or not, the tempestarii is still a railjack class ship. The reason the ship attacked Vala's vessel was because it did not receive a counter sign to "who waits for the shadow". So by standard protocol, it presumed Vala's vessel as hostile.
@@ragingidiot2842 I believe we do know is a void storm that destroy it , both in the letter from Cy at the start of quest and at the end when we piloting Tempestarii and summon void storm on it . And as for the second half , I'm personally pretty sure at that time , we somehow travel back in time to when Vala first capture Tempestarii . Cy did also mention in the same letter that void storm distort time , causing time anamoly , which lead me to believe that's what happened.
Something you seem to have missed, Smough... "Our sailing ship Is for the hard and quick We roll our load and go There's a living to be made Or there's Hell to pay When you're sleeping in the cold below" "Quick" here can be read in two ways. Quick as in speedy or fast, or Quick as in alive. She's saying "Only the living can pilot this ship," potentially contrasting with the "Ghost Ship" that is the Tempestarii.
"There's a living to be made Or there's hell to pay When you're sleeping in the cold below" This is probably a reference to the Sisters of Parvos, meaning that you can either work with Parvos Granum... Or else.
@@alexisfights5773 i was thinking something like with what Nef Anyo did to Thursby(now Legs) where he didn't sell enough scraps so Nef dismantled him. As "a living to be made" be the quota that they need to fill and "hell to pay" is what happens if they don't meet said quota
Also the part of sailing into the sun. As sunsdown was an easy way to find bearings on an flat ocean where it gave clear direction. Then also the term 'sailing into the sunset' or 'horizon', which got differing meanings but most having to do with ending something
Fancy seeing you here. Agreed, I've played Warframe before a little but this popped up on Spotify and I was like. Man, this slaps wonder what's the lore
Sailers are very supersticious, I learned this from an old sailer who told me the origins of "Leave Her Johnny" and "A Drop of Nelson's Blood". Singing certain Shanties for them is like wishing for the seas to make it so. By this logic, to sing or play "Sleeping in the Cold Below" during a Railjack mission, is to wish for death amongst a dreadful voidstorm or within the cold vaccume of space, daring the void to try and claim you and your crewmembers. Although thats just my interpretation
I've built my PC in Warhammer RPG according to this song, and I swear to god - 99% were according to your interpretation. I did the bio and PC just after the OST came live. Wow! Thank you for the confirmation and a great content!
To add to 6:15, having a "devil in the eyes" may also refer to being exposed to the Void. Can be seen with the operator's eyes as well around the quests where they're relevant, mostly shown with a taint of red hues on where their "visions" are depicted
I wonder if the fight during Vala's chanty is the reflection of destroying Lucretia Platform. Just think about it. We control Sevagoth's Shadow who is supposed to be responsible for the attack. We kill Corpus crewmates. There is a burning warship in the background. I think at that moment we see the Lucretia Platform through the Shadow's eyes. He was looking for Sevagoth and was paying attention only to living beings. And he recognized Corpus people as enemies because they weren't Sevagoth. So Vala's sisters died because they crossed their ways with mindless Shadow.
Depends. The video mentions the Cold Below basically as Warframe's version of Davy Jones locker and Sevagoth himself could arguably be seen as a Davy Jones like figure. The entire sequence might be representative of Vala's Sisters being awoken and riled by the song, forcing Sevagoth's shadow to face the vengeful dead.
There is wind in space, not atmospheric winds but solar winds. Wind can also bring movement and in our brain translate it into being life, thusly going to where the wind don't blow could mean the afterlife or death.
>Won't you lay me down under Granum Crowns and I'll be sleeping in the cold below You know those pyramids on Corpus ships where you toss a coin and get a bit of lore about Granum and founding of the Corpus?.. Yeah... I'll never see them the same after this.
I wonder if "devil in his eye" might refer to the discoloration in the eyes of void clones. See our operator clone that pops in randomly. Might she be serving an "evil" clone of Parvos instead of Parvos himself? He did spend a fair amount of time in the void himself.
I just discovered this channel and it's great! I'm a kind of person that realy get into the lores of games and especialy warframe. I always like those types of video.
@@Hangman-yq5uh the thing here is, notice valla's eyes in the quest, same as your doppleganger which says hey kiddo after the chains of harrow quest, that is clearly the man in the wall, yes she said devil in his eye, but what if that word was subliminally influenced... in the chains of harrow quest the seer calls the man in the wall a great lidless eye, notice for a moment at your backdrop while you are fighting as sevagoth during the mission, it's a giant eye in the void.. parvos's voice at the end talking to valla is also distorted, as if he's posessed.... and now the sisters of parvos is i am sure going to have further elaboration, but i am fairly confident the man in the wall has a role here, a more significant role that we currently believe... even you as tenno are nothing more than a conduit for his void energy, it is this what grants you control of warframe and warframe abilities. Your railjack is literally powered by a void reactor that is a finger trapped in a pod, a giant finger... and it is theorized it is the finger of the man in the wall..
Thank you. I was having some trouble making the best sense of it, I had my own theories, but wasn't sure. You definitely cleared up some uncertainties I had
One cool thing about warframe songs. I don't play warframe, I don't know shit about lore, and the lyrics are all I have. I'm also a GM. I've build a full scenario around We All Lift Together and I'm in a process of writing a whole nation based on Sleeping in the Cold Below. Keep them coming, I need that inspiration.
The sentence "With the Devil in his eye" is really interesting as we have seen a Devil like figure in warframe (the man in the wall) who controls people and turns their eyes red. So could this mean the man in the wall is controlling or at least manipulating Parvos?
This is just speculation, but the "Devil in his eye" could perhaps also be a reference to our old friend The Man In The Wall or to us the Tenno as we are sometimes refered to as Devils It is likely that Parvos will include us in some future plan he has but at this point we dont know what that is yet.
I think "going where the wind don't blow" is still a sailing metaphor, but it's a reference to the depths below the waves - "going where the wind don't blow" means dying, as much as "sleeping in the cold below".
i have some different interpretation to some terms , like the cold below , below is a place in ship , the below deck is very cold in comparison to top deck, and in some ships there is more than one below, getting very cold, and since ship have hierarchy , the lower your are on it, more like your lodge be in the lowest below , so if you seek warm, you have to ascend or you will be sleeping in the cold below below . the part of golden hand can be almost 100% about him, but it is also use to tell when someone can turn something worthless in something value, we use touch , but hand is more strong , and he will make you value something by either success (golden touch) or failure (midas touch) . about being in a high , can be used for his place, above everyone else, but also as in a fever for something . The devil in eye , can mean he have it inside, or he is focusing on the devil he is hunting . i can think of those because how the captain of the ship on mobby dick act, he is on a high pursing his devil , so focused he can only see it. since the sister on game start as candidate an have to prove their valor climbing the ranks , and when one fail , he just throw it away , fits more the how certain captains of pirate ship acted.
I prefer the voice of Freya Catherine, maybe because I have traced the demise of my Irish relatives. The last letters said they would be "traveling on a wonderful ship. . . . Can not wait to explain their travels. ... " They never showed up in New York, NY. The Titanic sunk after their last letter though.. . . Never heard from them, ever. 😪♥️
someone in the comments of the video of the song itsself pointed out that the lights under the surface of the arena where you fight the corpus as Sevagoth looked like the lights in the helmets of corpus....which is probably referencing the dead crewmates
@@SmoughTown it’s quite an amazing game- but as I’ve been playing for nearly a year and a half straight I need a break so I’ll be tuning in and playing only a fraction of what I used to- to recover some
Not to counter anything you said but the "where the wind don't blow" dosnt mean above the water it means the same as the cold below. The wind dosnt blow below the waters when a ship goes where the wind don't blow that means it's sunk or at the end of it's journey... Grew up on long island with both grandparents being sailers asked them this what they told me
I think there's one more thing in the first verse that may or may not mean something. "We'll be sailing to the sun, 'till the voyage is done" Now, maybe I'm reading too much into this, especially since the rest of the themes are nautical in nature, but I see a Icarus Motif there. Getting too close to the sun is symbolic of suicidal hubris, after all, and Vala is aware of that. Then again, it might just be about using the sun as a point of reference in navigation.
There are a few errors in this analysis. First, the phrase for winds not blowing is "becalmed", but that's not ever used in the song. Second, the usage of the word "yes" binds together "We're going where the winds don't blow" with "We're all bound down to the deep", in the sense that it is a clarification. Combined, this means an interpretation with more solid footing is that 'where the winds don't blow' is itself 'in the cold below' This changes things quite significantly Rather than it being a song about a dangerous quest for vengeance, it's a song about her already considering herself dead and tasked with exacting vengeance for her crew - herself INCLUDED - before she can take her 'rightful' place amongst her sisters. This recontextualizes her survivor's guilt, and shows what her plan is for her life. The second verse reinforces this - the line "There's a living to be made or there's hell to pay" indicates that she's doing what she must to make a living *until* she can exact vengeance. Given that, and the nature of Corpus culture, I believe she took up her captaincy without her crew knowing what her true intent really was. She played her part and did her job in the hopes of one day being able to get her revenge and finally die. "Today we sail on the Solar Rail for there's much we just don't know" supports this - more than just the literal solar rail, she's sailing the proverbial solar rail by sticking to her assigned duties and routes, entirely because she had no leads in where her quarry is or how to destroy it once she finds it. As far as 'not returning until she's achieved her vengeance'? No, she doesn't intend to return at all. As she says "Sisters, below below, *we* are going where the winds don't blow"; her sisters, the ones she's singing to, are already below. The 'we' here isn't them, it's her current crew. This is a journey intended to end in death.
I think that "were the winds don't blow" Is a reference to afterlife/death. Aka in this line she says, that she knows and accepts the fact she is going against the certain death... But this is just my take.
Late to the party, but I love this song Kind of feels like the bad version of Bones in the Ocean, where the captain plagued with survivors guilt throws themselves in to certain death instead of living with the grief
'There's a man on high With the devil in his eye And a golden hand, I'm told It can hurt you, it can hold you He can kick you or console you When you're sleeping in the cold below'. I always thought this part of the song was referring to Sevagoth. The 'man on high' could always be a metaphor for a ship's helmsman, as well as the 'Devil in his eye' line possibly referring to the shadow form of Sevagoth. The 'golden hand' initially put me in mind that it was something in reference to the Orokin, since they would, in all likelihood, be the one to order the Operator controlling Sevagoth to go out into the wild parts of space, and the Void. The 'hurt you'/'hold you', or 'kick you or console you' might be referring to the dual nature of the Tempestarii, given that it attacks when not responded to correctly, but is the lifeline that some ships would need. It could also refer in some ways to the abilities of Sevagoth's shadow, given that its main weapons are claws.
Great analysis ❤️❤️ I have 1observations when she says from Mother the m in mother is in captol so i think the mean Mother from the Entrati family on Deimos
Author, hello! I really liked your analysis of the lyrics of the song, do you mind if I publish a translation of your video into my native language (Russian)? Of course, with the indication of all links. (To the video itself and to you.)
I am not sure there is a comprehensive guide but this was a decent read I looked at: www.crewseekers.net/notices/three-sheets-wind-nautical-slang-common-usage/
I was honestly rather upset I had to fight her, She really didn't deserve it; Sure she's Corpus, A faction that's often our enemy, But she wanted absolutely nothing to do with us. Feel bad for siding with an edgy, Eldritch ghost ship just because a questionably functional cephalon told me to. One of many moments where I've questioned whether or not the Tenno are truly heroes in this story or just acting to protect their own interests like everyone else.
The take that she made the song *after* the incident at the platform is one I disagree with, personally. I always saw it as this being the rallying shanty that the sisters may have sung amongst themselves whilst on their voyage, so whilst she drifted in the flotsam she imagined her dead sisters were still singing the same song with her
When i reaches this part in tempesrarii i died so much because i couldnt stop fucking laughing at how out of place it was in the rest of the quest, let alone the game
I quite like how the more fleshed out the world of WF becomes, the more we get to see how absolutely terrifying the Tenno are. If you're a simple Ostron villager or a rebel like them Vox Solaris they may seem alright. But if you're a Brave New World-style omega-level conscripted chump and you hear the stories about one these absolute nightmares crashing into a capital ship and single-handedly obliterating half the crew with their weird void-magic before freezing the ship's reactor and leaving the ship derelict your view of them may not be as positive. That's without mentioning that this is what they do on a regular Tuesday. Hopefully we will get more content that makes our genocidal heroes look a bit more... heroic.
I agree with the general meaning but you missed the part that annoyed me the most about the song. We listen to Vala's song when we're slaughtering corpus. Why? Regarding the Parvos Granum part I don't agree at all. You missed something, it's metagaming. Chronologicaly that song was made ages ago. So the "With the Devil in his eye" reasoning referring to Parvos schemes can't be about recent plans that she had no way to know, but instead show us that he's known to be always plotting and that everyone feared him. So for me, this description of Parvos Granum is curious. She says that he's feared, scheming and ruthless to everyone but she's a follower. Shows us that she prefers a known evil than an unknown. Imo that's the take on that verse, giving insight on both him and her.
To me, Corpus culture is about being ruthless and gaining status and profit no mater what it takes. Even Parvos's fate was a result of other's wanting him out of the way for their own goals. He was, and still is, feared for how good he is at being Corpus. I'm not sure I'd call him a known evil and more of just one who is often deemed worth following as he plows a path through life.
your analysis of The Devil in your eye is a literal interpretation of the phrase but not entirely accurate to the lore... if you look at the end of the quest you see valla greeted with a man with a golden hand, but valla's eyes are like the eyes of your (SPOILER ) operator's doppleganger that shows up in your ship after the chains of harrow quest.... if you have played that quest you know that the doppleganger is actually the man in the wall, similarly when you do the quest the war within, the ending of that quest, your eyes change after you take your final decision of what to do with the kuva looking similar to vallas's eyes, at that point the man in the wall possesses you, speaks through you.. At the end of the tempestaari quest, the man with the golden hand ( parvos granum ) says something, but it's not the voice of parvos granum that we know from the previous quest, the deadlock protocol, it's a new and eerier voice, a possessed voice. all of those facts combined suggest that "The Devil in his eye" is literally a devil in his eye... i.e the man in the wall...
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Interesting takes. Nice catch on Charon's obols!
That being said, here's some deeper lore context that elaborates more on Granum's reputation as an individual, and the significance of the Solar Rails versus the Railjacks in the quest.
Parvos Granum is a pastiche of a very specific type of capitalist - the same way Nef Anyo is a satire of megachurch pastors and Frohd Bek refers to the military-industrial complex (mostly in the North American cultural context). Overall, the Corpus are a critique of neoliberal capitalism and theocracy combined, and those social structures have strong thematic similarities that make them ripe with storytelling potential.
But the main thing is that Parvos Granum is patterned after the American frontier's railway barons and titans of industry, sources of the myth of "pulling oneself up by the bootstraps" and valorized as symbols of hard work and grit. In reality, they were ruthless, exploitative opportunists who would do almost anything in the name of profit - who would cut any deal and backstab any partner if it meant the success of their very concrete aspirations. Rather than being passive boardroom executives who just talk over imaginary numbers, they were willing to get dirty. And isn't that the essence of Parvos? A man who will do whatever it takes to get ahead - even if it's cutting deals with the anarcho-syndicalist Vox Solaris on one hand, and forming a private armada on the other.
As for the last part of the lyrics... Railjacks are named such because they aren't bound by the Solar Rails; their void drives allow them to sail into unknown space and be assured of a return, except in extreme cases like that of Sevagoth. They're exploration vessels, capable of charting the most mysterious and dangerous depths of the Origin System, venturing far beyond the Proximas if need be. That's why Vala is so hell-bent on taking yours at first; Parvos desires what his long imprisonment has denied him, which is to say, the freedom to traverse the Void. It's his one weakness, so to speak; perhaps even his one fear, to again be lost in the Void without a way back. And a Railjack would solve his problem, as well as grant him the means to conquer the Origin System with a fleet of rail-independent warships.
What this has to do with the lyrics is that the freedom we enjoy to zip around the Proximas like nightmares out of the Void - exactly like the Tempestarii, appearing from nowhere and wreaking havoc - is in stark contrast to the fear experienced by ordinary captains when they look out at the uncharted space beyond the Rail lines and the Proximas. To them, everything outside of the trade lines is basically Here Be Monsters - stray too far, and you're gone forever, lost in the cold below. It's hard to convey through gameplay, but it really shows just how alien the Tenno are in contrast to the average Crewman or Lancer. Just another bit of cultural interest.
I absolutely agree with your take on Granum; it's why his return makes the Corpus a far more dangerous prospect due to his character; in a way he reminds me of Daniel Day Lewis' Character from there will be blood. Obsessed with success, and inflating wealth but a very active and violent participant in gaining that wealth rather than the 'fat cats' who sit idle on the corpus boardroom.
@@SmoughTown Exactly. Ever since Deadlock I've been excited to see what they do with Granum moving forward, and whether we'll see the fallout of the Corpus' internal conflict enact big changes in their overall power hierarchy. The great thing is that there's a degree of genuine unpredictability to a character who will deal with absolutely anyone if he has something to gain.
Bro, i havent watched the video and you summed up why i like Parvos, he is willing to do the work but that doesnt mean is good.
Also the Railjack part of your comment speak the most for me.
As someone who likes to use is, the fact that its free from the Solar Rail also speaks volumes of the Tenno.
Even in their own spaceship, the Tenno are free and more powerful than any force on the Origin System.
Your comment made me even love Railjacks as a whole since they do represent the mobility and Freedom the Tenno have, now on Deep Space and in the Void.
About the part were the Tenno are alien to the Corpus and Grineer, the first time I've ever heard about Warframe was from TotalBiscuit (R.IP) and he mentioned that Warframe felt to him like a reverse of the classic boss fight, were you are the "average" grunt taking on the big bad boss, to the you are that boss breaking into a base and the Corpus/Grineer are the average grunts protecting their homes and such.
The Tenno are what lurk in the dark, I have honestly imagined corpus parents scaring their kids to be good/go to bed or the Tenno will come and get them. I mean yes we are technically the good guys, But I feel like we still scare the shit out of people we do not have a beef with.
"Do you ever wonder why a Granum Crown is always cold to the touch?"
-Dialogue from Perrin Sequence Railjack Crewmates
Between We All Lift and Cold Below, I have to wonder if music is a big part of Corpus culture. I know the Solaris aren't technically Corpus, but they've worked for the Corpus and Nef Anyo for years, so Corpus culture would probably rub off on them in that time.
They have subwoofers in their hair.
I mean everyone runs around with headphones
seeing as they music is a big part of religion it wouldn't be that difficult to assume they have holy hymns for parvos, and maybe a few written by or for nef
Just coming back to Warframe, those songs really grabbed my attention. I would love to have more than two!
The Ostron had no musical number, nor the Entrati.
I would have loved to see some Broadway-esque Musical Number by the infested orokin family...
This is a great analysis, but one thing I think a lot of people overlook is that the song may not have been composed by Vala at all, nor just a 'hallucination' of hers, as I've seen other people interpret it. She says that she dreamed her sisters were "singing with her yet". That YET is incredibly important, because it implies that they have sung the same song together before, and she is now hearing it as she thinks of them, more of a memory than a hallucination. Combined with the song's nature as a sea shanty, and the way Parvos is referred to in a very distant tense despite Vala apparently knowing him decently well, makes me think that "Sleeping in the Cold Below" is a song that would be sung often among Vala's old crew while working, as is the purpose of a sea shanty. This is just my interpretation, but I haven't heard anyone else share my view so I thought I'd share it.
I agree with this. I was getting the impression that she pictured herself still on the boat singing as usual with her crew.
Ohhh thank you for pointing out that one thing I felt didn't fully add up with this and many other interpretations. On one end, maybe Valla is a huge ancient history buff who reads up on what it was like to sail before spacefaring, just for fun, and this kind of comforts/fuels her during the time she spent drifting alone, finding solace in how so many before her faced this kind of horror. So she adds these ye oldé expressions to the song as it keeps her sane-ish through the ordeal.
But it feels to me *much* more sensible that this is an old, oral history form of song, a sea shanty sung through generations of workers. Some old names and terms stuck around because you'd mess up the rhythm/rhyme too much otherwise, but it's also got some newer names like Granum and his legacy added because the workers revere him - willingly or not.
I very much more vibe with the latter explanation on a personal level, since songs that mean a lot to me and remind me of good times has very often let me push through the shitty times. Like, I haven't had to float through space alone surrounded by the corpses of my fiends just yet, but you can bet your ass I'd be frantically humming songs to keep myself sane if it ever came to that.
The Tempestarii was supposedly a "rescue vessel". Yet it attacked a corpus station.
Leading to the total destruction of the station.
Think of how our rescue missions are structured. Go in, retrieve (preferably undetected) and evacuate.
I really don't think the objective the Tempestarii received that day was to rescue at all... and I also think Captain Vala knows that, since the Corpus had the records until we stole them.
Something doesn't add up.
Good catch, the plot thickens. Or it could've been the shadow just doing its normal rampage stuff.
The Tempestarii went down in a Void Storm during the Old War. Is it possible that it sometimes breaks out of the Void, causing Void Storms wherever it appears? Maybe a Void Storm is what destroyed Lucretia Platform. We’re not given any answer as to how EXACTLY it was destroyed. We just know it was destroyed.
Well rescue or not, the tempestarii is still a railjack class ship. The reason the ship attacked Vala's vessel was because it did not receive a counter sign to "who waits for the shadow". So by standard protocol, it presumed Vala's vessel as hostile.
@@ragingidiot2842 I believe we do know is a void storm that destroy it , both in the letter from Cy at the start of quest and at the end when we piloting Tempestarii and summon void storm on it .
And as for the second half , I'm personally pretty sure at that time , we somehow travel back in time to when Vala first capture Tempestarii . Cy did also mention in the same letter that void storm distort time , causing time anamoly , which lead me to believe that's what happened.
i saw someone mention that there is a a designation for ships like the tempestari, CSAR Combat, search, and rescue. which is a real designation.
Something you seem to have missed, Smough...
"Our sailing ship
Is for the hard and quick
We roll our load and go
There's a living to be made
Or there's Hell to pay
When you're sleeping in the cold below"
"Quick" here can be read in two ways. Quick as in speedy or fast, or Quick as in alive. She's saying "Only the living can pilot this ship," potentially contrasting with the "Ghost Ship" that is the Tempestarii.
Great catch!
Cut to the Quick is another expression that’s rarely used- normally when you cut a cat or a dogs nail too close and it starts bleeding.
"There's a living to be made
Or there's hell to pay
When you're sleeping in the cold below"
This is probably a reference to the Sisters of Parvos, meaning that you can either work with Parvos Granum... Or else.
@@alexisfights5773 i was thinking something like with what Nef Anyo did to Thursby(now Legs) where he didn't sell enough scraps so Nef dismantled him. As "a living to be made" be the quota that they need to fill and "hell to pay" is what happens if they don't meet said quota
Also the part of sailing into the sun.
As sunsdown was an easy way to find bearings on an flat ocean where it gave clear direction. Then also the term 'sailing into the sunset' or 'horizon', which got differing meanings but most having to do with ending something
Don't even play warframe but I think this and we all lift together are amazing songs
I second that!
Fancy seeing you here. Agreed, I've played Warframe before a little but this popped up on Spotify and I was like. Man, this slaps wonder what's the lore
Sailers are very supersticious, I learned this from an old sailer who told me the origins of "Leave Her Johnny" and "A Drop of Nelson's Blood".
Singing certain Shanties for them is like wishing for the seas to make it so.
By this logic, to sing or play "Sleeping in the Cold Below" during a Railjack mission, is to wish for death amongst a dreadful voidstorm or within the cold vaccume of space, daring the void to try and claim you and your crewmembers.
Although thats just my interpretation
Very nice analysis of the song. I hadn’t picked up on all of it, but it really does make sense. Thanks for the hard work, and have a great day
Thanks for the kind words friend :)
I've built my PC in Warhammer RPG according to this song, and I swear to god - 99% were according to your interpretation. I did the bio and PC just after the OST came live. Wow! Thank you for the confirmation and a great content!
Wow that's awesome buddy! Thanks for sharing, it means so much :D
@@SmoughTown It was my pleasure! Keep up the great work!
To add to 6:15, having a "devil in the eyes" may also refer to being exposed to the Void. Can be seen with the operator's eyes as well around the quests where they're relevant, mostly shown with a taint of red hues on where their "visions" are depicted
the devil in his eye bit could also tie into parvos having a connection to the man in the wall, since the orokin referred to the tenno as devils
I wonder if the fight during Vala's chanty is the reflection of destroying Lucretia Platform. Just think about it. We control Sevagoth's Shadow who is supposed to be responsible for the attack. We kill Corpus crewmates. There is a burning warship in the background. I think at that moment we see the Lucretia Platform through the Shadow's eyes. He was looking for Sevagoth and was paying attention only to living beings. And he recognized Corpus people as enemies because they weren't Sevagoth. So Vala's sisters died because they crossed their ways with mindless Shadow.
Depends. The video mentions the Cold Below basically as Warframe's version of Davy Jones locker and Sevagoth himself could arguably be seen as a Davy Jones like figure. The entire sequence might be representative of Vala's Sisters being awoken and riled by the song, forcing Sevagoth's shadow to face the vengeful dead.
It has become sort of a headcanon of mine that the Corpus have a strong singing culture
There is wind in space, not atmospheric winds but solar winds.
Wind can also bring movement and in our brain translate it into being life, thusly going to where the wind don't blow could mean the afterlife or death.
Nobody:
Vala’s hair in the first cutscene: I flote
i think it's a reference to Captain Salazar from Pirates of the Caribbean 5.
Wow! That was awesome. Love it 🙌
Thanks so much! That means a lot
>Won't you lay me down under Granum Crowns and I'll be sleeping in the cold below
You know those pyramids on Corpus ships where you toss a coin and get a bit of lore about Granum and founding of the Corpus?..
Yeah... I'll never see them the same after this.
I wonder if "devil in his eye" might refer to the discoloration in the eyes of void clones. See our operator clone that pops in randomly. Might she be serving an "evil" clone of Parvos instead of Parvos himself? He did spend a fair amount of time in the void himself.
Thoes aren't "clones". It's The Man in the Wall, taking on the form of the person it appears for.
I just discovered this channel and it's great! I'm a kind of person that realy get into the lores of games and especialy warframe. I always like those types of video.
The devil in his eye can also mean the man in the wall
A possibility, but also extremely unlikely, as she wouldn't have known about The-man-in-the-wall.
@@Hangman-yq5uh the thing here is, notice valla's eyes in the quest, same as your doppleganger which says hey kiddo after the chains of harrow quest, that is clearly the man in the wall, yes she said devil in his eye, but what if that word was subliminally influenced...
in the chains of harrow quest the seer calls the man in the wall a great lidless eye, notice for a moment at your backdrop while you are fighting as sevagoth during the mission, it's a giant eye in the void..
parvos's voice at the end talking to valla is also distorted, as if he's posessed....
and now the sisters of parvos is i am sure going to have further elaboration, but i am fairly confident the man in the wall has a role here, a more significant role that we currently believe... even you as tenno are nothing more than a conduit for his void energy, it is this what grants you control of warframe and warframe abilities.
Your railjack is literally powered by a void reactor that is a finger trapped in a pod, a giant finger... and it is theorized it is the finger of the man in the wall..
Thank you. I was having some trouble making the best sense of it, I had my own theories, but wasn't sure. You definitely cleared up some uncertainties I had
One cool thing about warframe songs.
I don't play warframe, I don't know shit about lore, and the lyrics are all I have.
I'm also a GM.
I've build a full scenario around We All Lift Together and I'm in a process of writing a whole nation based on Sleeping in the Cold Below.
Keep them coming, I need that inspiration.
The sentence "With the Devil in his eye" is really interesting as we have seen a Devil like figure in warframe (the man in the wall) who controls people and turns their eyes red. So could this mean the man in the wall is controlling or at least manipulating Parvos?
Loved your video and explaining, you enlightened me so thank you 😊
This is just speculation, but the "Devil in his eye" could perhaps also be a reference to our old friend The Man In The Wall or to us the Tenno as we are sometimes refered to as Devils
It is likely that Parvos will include us in some future plan he has but at this point we dont know what that is yet.
Pretty good analysis
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
I am literally using this video as a source for a english project i have.
Is it alright if I ask what what the project is about?
@@cloudkracker9664 lol sea shanties and i needed a recent made one
Great analysis bro!
I think "going where the wind don't blow" is still a sailing metaphor, but it's a reference to the depths below the waves - "going where the wind don't blow" means dying, as much as "sleeping in the cold below".
Wish this dude had more subs, he gives more information than any other warframe channel
i have some different interpretation to some terms , like the cold below , below is a place in ship , the below deck is very cold in comparison to top deck, and in some ships there is more than one below, getting very cold, and since ship have hierarchy , the lower your are on it, more like your lodge be in the lowest below , so if you seek warm, you have to ascend or you will be sleeping in the cold below below .
the part of golden hand can be almost 100% about him, but it is also use to tell when someone can turn something worthless in something value, we use touch , but hand is more strong , and he will make you value something by either success (golden touch) or failure (midas touch) .
about being in a high , can be used for his place, above everyone else, but also as in a fever for something .
The devil in eye , can mean he have it inside, or he is focusing on the devil he is hunting .
i can think of those because how the captain of the ship on mobby dick act, he is on a high pursing his devil , so focused he can only see it.
since the sister on game start as candidate an have to prove their valor climbing the ranks , and when one fail , he just throw it away , fits more the how certain captains of pirate ship acted.
I actually felt like a bad guy mowing down the Corpus and sinking Vala's ship.
I think that the tempistarii is the flying Dutchman like how the cold below is Davy Jones locker.
For real that's what i thought at first when i saw the tempistarii and it being called a "ghost ship"
Thanks for this video.
Some different interpretations to my initial ones, so quite interesting.
This song gave me chills when I did the quest. God i love this game so much
Brilliant video❤️
I was asking myself wth she was talking about now I can go back and enjoy it even more appreciate it
I prefer the voice of Freya Catherine, maybe because I have traced the demise of my Irish relatives. The last letters said they would be "traveling on a wonderful ship. . . . Can not wait to explain their travels. ... "
They never showed up in New York, NY.
The Titanic sunk after their last letter though.. . . Never heard from them, ever. 😪♥️
someone in the comments of the video of the song itsself pointed out that the lights under the surface of the arena where you fight the corpus as Sevagoth looked like the lights in the helmets of corpus....which is probably referencing the dead crewmates
Captain Vala Ahab and her ship Pequod
The Tempestarii is *absolutely* Vala's White Whale.
Oh Snap! I didn’t know you had hopped onto the Warframe bandwagon too Smoughtown! Awesome! 😎
I love it :D
@@SmoughTown it’s quite an amazing game- but as I’ve been playing for nearly a year and a half straight I need a break so I’ll be tuning in and playing only a fraction of what I used to- to recover some
Not to counter anything you said but the "where the wind don't blow" dosnt mean above the water it means the same as the cold below. The wind dosnt blow below the waters when a ship goes where the wind don't blow that means it's sunk or at the end of it's journey... Grew up on long island with both grandparents being sailers asked them this what they told me
thus death of the ship and the crew reference sense the ship was in a sense seen as part of the crew.
I think there's one more thing in the first verse that may or may not mean something. "We'll be sailing to the sun, 'till the voyage is done"
Now, maybe I'm reading too much into this, especially since the rest of the themes are nautical in nature, but I see a Icarus Motif there. Getting too close to the sun is symbolic of suicidal hubris, after all, and Vala is aware of that.
Then again, it might just be about using the sun as a point of reference in navigation.
There are a few errors in this analysis.
First, the phrase for winds not blowing is "becalmed", but that's not ever used in the song.
Second, the usage of the word "yes" binds together "We're going where the winds don't blow" with "We're all bound down to the deep", in the sense that it is a clarification.
Combined, this means an interpretation with more solid footing is that 'where the winds don't blow' is itself 'in the cold below'
This changes things quite significantly
Rather than it being a song about a dangerous quest for vengeance, it's a song about her already considering herself dead and tasked with exacting vengeance for her crew - herself INCLUDED - before she can take her 'rightful' place amongst her sisters.
This recontextualizes her survivor's guilt, and shows what her plan is for her life.
The second verse reinforces this - the line "There's a living to be made or there's hell to pay" indicates that she's doing what she must to make a living *until* she can exact vengeance.
Given that, and the nature of Corpus culture, I believe she took up her captaincy without her crew knowing what her true intent really was. She played her part and did her job in the hopes of one day being able to get her revenge and finally die.
"Today we sail on the Solar Rail for there's much we just don't know" supports this - more than just the literal solar rail, she's sailing the proverbial solar rail by sticking to her assigned duties and routes, entirely because she had no leads in where her quarry is or how to destroy it once she finds it.
As far as 'not returning until she's achieved her vengeance'? No, she doesn't intend to return at all. As she says "Sisters, below below, *we* are going where the winds don't blow"; her sisters, the ones she's singing to, are already below. The 'we' here isn't them, it's her current crew. This is a journey intended to end in death.
I think that "were the winds don't blow" Is a reference to afterlife/death. Aka in this line she says, that she knows and accepts the fact she is going against the certain death... But this is just my take.
Late to the party, but I love this song
Kind of feels like the bad version of Bones in the Ocean, where the captain plagued with survivors guilt throws themselves in to certain death instead of living with the grief
'There's a man on high
With the devil in his eye
And a golden hand, I'm told
It can hurt you, it can hold you
He can kick you or console you
When you're sleeping in the cold below'.
I always thought this part of the song was referring to Sevagoth. The 'man on high' could always be a metaphor for a ship's helmsman, as well as the 'Devil in his eye' line possibly referring to the shadow form of Sevagoth.
The 'golden hand' initially put me in mind that it was something in reference to the Orokin, since they would, in all likelihood, be the one to order the Operator controlling Sevagoth to go out into the wild parts of space, and the Void.
The 'hurt you'/'hold you', or 'kick you or console you' might be referring to the dual nature of the Tempestarii, given that it attacks when not responded to correctly, but is the lifeline that some ships would need. It could also refer in some ways to the abilities of Sevagoth's shadow, given that its main weapons are claws.
It's more likely referring to Parvos, with his conniving nature and golden hand.
Great analysis ❤️❤️
I have 1observations when she says from Mother the m in mother is in captol so i think the mean Mother from the Entrati family on Deimos
her floating hair remind me to Captain Armando Salazar
well... it may be a ref
Great video
Author, hello! I really liked your analysis of the lyrics of the song, do you mind if I publish a translation of your video into my native language (Russian)? Of course, with the indication of all links. (To the video itself and to you.)
you could sing to your voice is sooo cool to :)
One question where can I look for sailor metafors, meaning and that stuff. Cause I really want to know more about sea chanty, if possible make one
I am not sure there is a comprehensive guide but this was a decent read I looked at: www.crewseekers.net/notices/three-sheets-wind-nautical-slang-common-usage/
@@SmoughTown Thank you! Have a good one
@@emberhydra You too!
Neat.
I was honestly rather upset I had to fight her, She really didn't deserve it; Sure she's Corpus, A faction that's often our enemy, But she wanted absolutely nothing to do with us. Feel bad for siding with an edgy, Eldritch ghost ship just because a questionably functional cephalon told me to. One of many moments where I've questioned whether or not the Tenno are truly heroes in this story or just acting to protect their own interests like everyone else.
Now that i know the truth about this song
The song is so Epic!
But its also so sad
The take that she made the song *after* the incident at the platform is one I disagree with, personally. I always saw it as this being the rallying shanty that the sisters may have sung amongst themselves whilst on their voyage, so whilst she drifted in the flotsam she imagined her dead sisters were still singing the same song with her
Space sea shanties are best sea shanties
When i reaches this part in tempesrarii i died so much because i couldnt stop fucking laughing at how out of place it was in the rest of the quest, let alone the game
I'm really starting to think that the tenno aren't all that good
They were used by the orokin to be killing machines. Only in recent time they got to go out and act on their own accord.
The Tenno are more like Free Mercenary Group
Not good or bad, just bent on getting stuff and become more powerful (which they are already)
@@theshellderinslowbrostail5422 Which is basically just tyranny with extra steps...
I quite like how the more fleshed out the world of WF becomes, the more we get to see how absolutely terrifying the Tenno are. If you're a simple Ostron villager or a rebel like them Vox Solaris they may seem alright. But if you're a Brave New World-style omega-level conscripted chump and you hear the stories about one these absolute nightmares crashing into a capital ship and single-handedly obliterating half the crew with their weird void-magic before freezing the ship's reactor and leaving the ship derelict your view of them may not be as positive. That's without mentioning that this is what they do on a regular Tuesday.
Hopefully we will get more content that makes our genocidal heroes look a bit more... heroic.
tenno aka void demons
Anyone notice the intense moby dick vibe that this song carries with it's story
👍👍
I agree with the general meaning but you missed the part that annoyed me the most about the song. We listen to Vala's song when we're slaughtering corpus. Why?
Regarding the Parvos Granum part I don't agree at all. You missed something, it's metagaming. Chronologicaly that song was made ages ago.
So the "With the Devil in his eye" reasoning referring to Parvos schemes can't be about recent plans that she had no way to know, but instead show us that he's known to be always plotting and that everyone feared him.
So for me, this description of Parvos Granum is curious. She says that he's feared, scheming and ruthless to everyone but she's a follower. Shows us that she prefers a known evil than an unknown.
Imo that's the take on that verse, giving insight on both him and her.
To me, Corpus culture is about being ruthless and gaining status and profit no mater what it takes. Even Parvos's fate was a result of other's wanting him out of the way for their own goals. He was, and still is, feared for how good he is at being Corpus. I'm not sure I'd call him a known evil and more of just one who is often deemed worth following as he plows a path through life.
sound liek a pirate song .
Sisters!! Below, below
We’re going where the winds don’t blow!
Yes we're all bound down to the deep and we'll be sleeping in the cold below
Sleeping in the cold below
...below.
Sleeping in the cold below
your analysis of The Devil in your eye is a literal interpretation of the phrase but not entirely accurate to the lore... if you look at the end of the quest you see valla greeted with a man with a golden hand, but valla's eyes are like the eyes of your (SPOILER )
operator's doppleganger that shows up in your ship after the chains of harrow quest.... if you have played that quest you know that the doppleganger is actually the man in the wall, similarly when you do the quest the war within, the ending of that quest, your eyes change after you take your final decision of what to do with the kuva looking similar to vallas's eyes, at that point the man in the wall possesses you, speaks through you..
At the end of the tempestaari quest, the man with the golden hand ( parvos granum ) says something, but it's not the voice of parvos granum that we know from the previous quest, the deadlock protocol, it's a new and eerier voice, a possessed voice.
all of those facts combined suggest that "The Devil in his eye" is literally a devil in his eye... i.e the man in the wall...
Vala Glarios did nothing wrong, change my mind
Too bad they didn't say 'the MIGHTY SEER' during the song
why the fuck is there a new character called vala when theres already a character called ballas 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️