In snooker, push shots and double contacts are not allowed. This particular push shot was performed by Ishpreet Singh Chadha in a recent 2024 Championship League match. Even though it was disguised, referee John Pellew should still have spotted it as it was quite an obvious foul imo. Unfortunately, it helped Chadha win the frame and match, unfairly. There is a very simple formula that all referees can use to identify a double contact: Quite simply if (A) the distance the cue travels through the white is greater than (B) the distance between the two balls then it has to be a double contact. This is because the white will always slow down when it meets the object ball and this allows the cue to catch up for a second contact. (This all happens in a split second of course.) In the clip, A is much greater than B. This is an obvious double contact. And because the object ball went in the hole, we can also surmise that the second contact is a push (cue contacts white exactly when white contacts the object ball). It would not have gone in the hole otherwise. The timing would have been been off. Chadha disguises the push by quickly withdrawing the cue immediately after the shot. This very quick withdrawal of the cue is only ever done to disguise a double contact. *The 'very fine edge' loophole* From the rule book: "Where the cue-ball and the object ball are almost touching, it shall not be deemed a push stroke if the cue-ball hits a very fine edge of the object ball.” Loophole: As there is no definition in the rule book for a 'very fine edge' the player can define it himself in any way that suits him. So, technically speaking, it is only a foul if the referee says it is (but in this case the referee doesn't seem to be even aware that anything is amiss). This video is for educational purposes only.
I think that you would need more input into this equation to be affective. such as the angle of object ball contact, for example. (and this is all only in theory, because to categorically call all these fouls in real time is more an art than a science)
I'm sorry but the white will always slow down when it meets the object ball, even at very acute angles. In fairness no one has ever tested this but there's no need. Why would you! It's just simple physics. It's the second law of thermodynamics at play. Energy can be transferred. So the white is transferring most of its energy to the object ball causing it to move away rapidly. This transfer of energy will ALWAYS cause the white to slow down. It has no choice. (No offence but it's not rocket science (well, maybe just a little, lol)).
@@PatrickRyan147 don't apologise patrick. the cue ball will slow down less with increased angle to the object ball. that's physics. I believe my point stands
@@haydenwalton2766At very acute angles you are allowed to push (the "very fine edge" exception) so your argument might stand but it becomes irrelevant really 🙂
😮 I think most players are on to John now at this stage (he doesn't call push shots) and they're just extracting the urine. It's a pity coz he's such a nice fella..
In snooker, push shots and double contacts are not allowed. This particular push shot was performed by Ishpreet Singh Chadha in a recent 2024 Championship League match. Even though it was disguised, referee John Pellew should still have spotted it as it was quite an obvious foul imo. Unfortunately, it helped Chadha win the frame and match, unfairly.
There is a very simple formula that all referees can use to identify a double contact: Quite simply if (A) the distance the cue travels through the white is greater than (B) the distance between the two balls then it has to be a double contact. This is because the white will always slow down when it meets the object ball and this allows the cue to catch up for a second contact. (This all happens in a split second of course.)
In the clip, A is much greater than B. This is an obvious double contact. And because the object ball went in the hole, we can also surmise that the second contact is a push (cue contacts white exactly when white contacts the object ball). It would not have gone in the hole otherwise. The timing would have been been off.
Chadha disguises the push by quickly withdrawing the cue immediately after the shot. This very quick withdrawal of the cue is only ever done to disguise a double contact.
*The 'very fine edge' loophole*
From the rule book: "Where the cue-ball and the object ball are almost touching, it shall not be deemed a push stroke if the cue-ball hits a very fine edge of the object ball.” Loophole: As there is no definition in the rule book for a 'very fine edge' the player can define it himself in any way that suits him. So, technically speaking, it is only a foul if the referee says it is (but in this case the referee doesn't seem to be even aware that anything is amiss).
This video is for educational purposes only.
I think that you would need more input into this equation to be affective. such as the angle of object ball contact, for example. (and this is all only in theory, because to categorically call all these fouls in real time is more an art than a science)
I'm sorry but the white will always slow down when it meets the object ball, even at very acute angles. In fairness no one has ever tested this but there's no need. Why would you! It's just simple physics. It's the second law of thermodynamics at play. Energy can be transferred. So the white is transferring most of its energy to the object ball causing it to move away rapidly. This transfer of energy will ALWAYS cause the white to slow down. It has no choice. (No offence but it's not rocket science (well, maybe just a little, lol)).
@@PatrickRyan147 don't apologise patrick.
the cue ball will slow down less with increased angle to the object ball. that's physics.
I believe my point stands
@@haydenwalton2766At very acute angles you are allowed to push (the "very fine edge" exception) so your argument might stand but it becomes irrelevant really 🙂
I love John Pellew and his lovely Welsh accent (no homo.. really) but how can he not call that??
John Pellew strikes me as an absolute gent.. but (sorry John) he wouldn't recognise a push shot if one hit him in the face 🫤
😮 I think most players are on to John now at this stage (he doesn't call push shots) and they're just extracting the urine. It's a pity coz he's such a nice fella..