I can't stress how important it is to not have swinging weight (like the Nalgene bottles I see so often clipped to the outside of a pack). At best the swinging weight works against you and will exhaust you faster, or worse it'll get you hurt bad.
Definitely. You expend energy just maintaining balance while rucking - more so the rougher the terrain. Swinging weight makes this worse. Loose items hanging off your ruck will also catch on vegetation.
Hi Randall. When you have time could you make a video on basic navigation for a beginner with a compass and a basic first aid kit. Thanks bro for being one of the best channels on TH-cam! Awesome Video By The Way.
I carried the old alice pack with a PRC-77 in the radio pouch to the top of Mt Baker and across the Cascade Mt range from Yakima to Ft Lewis. It must have been 1977 when we climbed Baker, the register book that was at the top of the mountain has an entry that I'm the only one to carry a PRC-77 to the top with out rotating it hehe. I started hiking in the boy scouts when I was about 10 and I think that built up my back as I have never had back problems even though I have abused it terribly over many years and still do. My first hike ever was the worst; we were only going 5 miles, but I had a 60 lb pack loaded with canned foods - a foretaste of having to carry C-Rats and I weighed maybe a hundred. My sleeping bag came unrolled and slid down about a hundred feet below the trail and I thought I was going to die by then hehe, but I learned to secure my gear after that. The thing I liked most about the old alice is the frame; as you say you carry the weight better, but also the metal frame keeps the ruck off your back and that is a huge difference in ventilation from any other pack I have found...
I've had my Alice since 79' in 42 years it hasn't failed me and a Bergen from a Brit I worked with at Price Barracks in Belize in 82'. So far so good. However, the new medium molly has perked my interest even though I am 60. I am no longer a lean machine lol.
The "Load Lifters" are useful for when you are going up or down inclines and declines. You can loosen or tighten them as needed to shift the center of gravity of the weight on your back.
Nice upload, I use several packs for rucking, a Mystery ranch 6500 a Warrior assault systems x300 and a Crib Gogh predator pack. And your right most civvies always seem to wear waist belts on packs way to low which is asking for trouble.
I finished my bug out rucksack this winter. It’s a dual rifle carrier bag and I designed an armoured chest rig that attaches too the front for mags and other miscellaneous quick grab items.
I hiked to temple Crag near lone pine which is on the Eastern side of the Sierras. I carried a FILBE marine ruck. The trail was partially covered in snow. My ruck was easily 50 pounds. I almost died. It’s under the big pine death March if you have time. I also didn’t pack the way I should have. Appreciate the wisdom being passed along.
For weight, I use a 10# bag of Sakrete, wrapped in a contractor bag, then wrapped tight in 100 mph tape. That plus water, spare ammo, snack, poncho, etc gets me to the 20-25# load I ruck with for conditioning.
I’ve been looking for video on packing odd items. How are you packing AT4s/Tripods/Javelins in the grunt world? Bradley scout here trying to expand my knowledge base into the light world of living out the ruck.
I bought a 10 litre msr dramaderry bag off of your Amazon channel, but have not used it yet. Not sure how to break it in or maintain and clean it properly. Could you please make a video on care and cleaning for this? Want to use mine for a long time without getting mold or soapy residue in my water. Also got a large alice ruck, boots and am trying to get started.
Have you ever tried an Alice with Molle straps? I use a medium Alice pack and frame with Molle shoulder straps and a small Molle waist belt. BTW, I'm just rucking for personal fitness, so I can get away with mixing and matching Alice and Molle gear.
Try a large OD Green ALICE w/frame and new woodland camo straps and waist belt/kidney pad. Must disagree with how you wear the ruck, I prefer my heavy weight low and against the frame, and use the waist belt to carry the load on my hips, not on my shoulders. As a 11B & 19D, I found issues going through tough and thick woods if the weight was high, the ruck would try to go over my head when I bent to go under stuff. Now as a REMF my gear goes on the truck…😂
I'm really curious about your take on the British Virtus system and their "second spine" which essentially helps direct weight over to your hips and legs while (somewhat) pushes the pack and vest "up" supposedly allowing you a more ergonomic weight distribution with less stress on just about everything else
Are you sure your empty ALICE weighs 12-15 lbs? My large ALICE must be the UL Hiker version, it's not even close to 12lbs. And I attached the shelf piece. xD (I didn't use a scale, though. Maybe I just grew a lot of strength camping on the couch over winter^^)
Yes sir! I weighed it recently. 18 years of built up dust and whatever it picked up. I guess I could remove it from the frame and wash it, but I'm too lazy 😂
Moleskin… the stories I could tell you about how it(didn’t) work. Medical tape or Gorilla tape when necessary… along with good fitting,well broken in boots. Grunt life!
Man...I know ALICE is your first love, but wow...it looks so uncomfortable. Is that a WW2 era design? I am a pampered civilian though so can you blame me? Molly definitely has that modern backpack technology that just improves how you gear hangs and it looks like today's bags, but with lots of daisy chains and stuff. Pretty cool! Curious...you own or ever used a civilian type bag?
I have a few civilian bags but none of them are name brands. This summer I wanted to start playing with backpacking bags for Grunt Proof. I know I'll destroy them but at least I can show you guys some less-popular but decent brands
@@GruntProof I run a Voodoo Tactical Discrete 3 Day Pack (discontinued but I think still available with some searching), a Cannae Sarcina Expedition, and my old ALICE, which I liberated from CIF way back in the day. Honestly I prefer the civilian packs though, especially the Voodoo.
How does the difference from a medium alice ruck to a large affect how the ruck is carried; specifically with avg size dude's vs much taller dude's. Does it make a difference with a large or medium ruck for big and tall dude's?
Height is less a factor than width, not talking fat bodies, but shoulder width and torso length greatly impact fit, not all frames fit us all perfectly. The My ALICE fits better than my MOLLE 2 but the M is fully adjustable and the straps/pads improve load distribution. The large rucks can hold more gear further from your back and increase the pull on the shoulders, but the medium carries the weight higher up on the torso. Your load plan determines the balance and pull of the weight, some like it high between the shoulders, I prefer low and close to the frame/body
@@tadcobert1307 I agree with Tad, if anything you can always add the molle sleeping bag carrier to the frame if you want to go medium alice to carry a sleeping bag, plus it looks pretty cool too. I personally have a Berghaus Vulcan 2 bergen (size 3) and would not switch to an alice/molle again.
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im 51 and i can still take a 50lb pack ten miles ......simply doing the same things what your talking about now, top man great video
I can't stress how important it is to not have swinging weight (like the Nalgene bottles I see so often clipped to the outside of a pack). At best the swinging weight works against you and will exhaust you faster, or worse it'll get you hurt bad.
Definitely. You expend energy just maintaining balance while rucking - more so the rougher the terrain. Swinging weight makes this worse. Loose items hanging off your ruck will also catch on vegetation.
Hi Randall. When you have time could you make a video on basic navigation for a beginner with a compass and a basic first aid kit. Thanks bro for being one of the best channels on TH-cam! Awesome Video By The Way.
Thanks!
Just wanted to say thank you. I’ve shown your videos to my soldiers and encourage them to follow the guidance you have passed on.
Awesome thanks!
I carried the old alice pack with a PRC-77 in the radio pouch to the top of Mt Baker and across the Cascade Mt range from Yakima to Ft Lewis. It must have been 1977 when we climbed Baker, the register book that was at the top of the mountain has an entry that I'm the only one to carry a PRC-77 to the top with out rotating it hehe. I started hiking in the boy scouts when I was about 10 and I think that built up my back as I have never had back problems even though I have abused it terribly over many years and still do. My first hike ever was the worst; we were only going 5 miles, but I had a 60 lb pack loaded with canned foods - a foretaste of having to carry C-Rats and I weighed maybe a hundred. My sleeping bag came unrolled and slid down about a hundred feet below the trail and I thought I was going to die by then hehe, but I learned to secure my gear after that. The thing I liked most about the old alice is the frame; as you say you carry the weight better, but also the metal frame keeps the ruck off your back and that is a huge difference in ventilation from any other pack I have found...
I've had my Alice since 79' in 42 years it hasn't failed me and a Bergen from a Brit I worked with at Price Barracks in Belize in 82'. So far so good. However, the new medium molly has perked my interest even though I am 60. I am no longer a lean machine lol.
The proper way to use a rucksack is to insert it into the back of your armored personnel carrier and then carry on about your day :-)
The "Load Lifters" are useful for when you are going up or down inclines and declines. You can loosen or tighten them as needed to shift the center of gravity of the weight on your back.
Never noticed a difference 🤷🏼♂️
This series rocks!
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Nice upload, I use several packs for rucking, a Mystery ranch 6500 a Warrior assault systems x300 and a Crib Gogh predator pack. And your right most civvies always seem to wear waist belts on packs way to low which is asking for trouble.
Less of a question but you should do a video of like what was used in ramadi like how you guys slept gear you used and maybe stories or something
I did a video on how we sleep and covered that
Randal always coming in clutch with these videos, thanks bro
I finished my bug out rucksack this winter. It’s a dual rifle carrier bag and I designed an armoured chest rig that attaches too the front for mags and other miscellaneous quick grab items.
Randell, have you used or reviewed the CFP-90? I was issued one by my uniit back in 2000 and I love it! Thank you.
never heard of it. I'll try to get my hands on one
I hiked to temple Crag near lone pine which is on the Eastern side of the Sierras. I carried a FILBE marine ruck. The trail was partially covered in snow. My ruck was easily 50 pounds. I almost died. It’s under the big pine death March if you have time. I also didn’t pack the way I should have. Appreciate the wisdom being passed along.
Damn
Very informative thank you!
I learned something! New Sub here...
Good content man. Great points throughout. I like the idea of having a dumbbell with me too! Lol
Thanks for the information, very cool. 👌🤠👍
Great info, appreciate it!🤘
For weight, I use a 10# bag of Sakrete, wrapped in a contractor bag, then wrapped tight in 100 mph tape. That plus water, spare ammo, snack, poncho, etc gets me to the 20-25# load I ruck with for conditioning.
Cool
This dude is Dayz Character
I’ve been looking for video on packing odd items. How are you packing AT4s/Tripods/Javelins in the grunt world? Bradley scout here trying to expand my knowledge base into the light world of living out the ruck.
Strapped up top. I carried a CLU that way a few times too
Thanks
Thanks!
I bought a 10 litre msr dramaderry bag off of your Amazon channel, but have not used it yet.
Not sure how to break it in or maintain and clean it properly.
Could you please make a video on care and cleaning for this?
Want to use mine for a long time without getting mold or soapy residue in my water.
Also got a large alice ruck, boots and am trying to get started.
Cool, I certainly won't be carrying weights, maybe some ammo though.
Killer instinct theme anyone 😂
Have you ever tried an Alice with Molle straps? I use a medium Alice pack and frame with Molle shoulder straps and a small Molle waist belt. BTW, I'm just rucking for personal fitness, so I can get away with mixing and matching Alice and Molle gear.
Have not
Try a large OD Green ALICE w/frame and new woodland camo straps and waist belt/kidney pad. Must disagree with how you wear the ruck, I prefer my heavy weight low and against the frame, and use the waist belt to carry the load on my hips, not on my shoulders. As a 11B & 19D, I found issues going through tough and thick woods if the weight was high, the ruck would try to go over my head when I bent to go under stuff. Now as a REMF my gear goes on the truck…😂
Is there any way you can do a list of equipment to go camping with? Recommended gear?
I have a few loadout videos up, and I will upload an updated one pretty soon
@@GruntProof thanks 🙏
I'm really curious about your take on the British Virtus system and their "second spine" which essentially helps direct weight over to your hips and legs while (somewhat) pushes the pack and vest "up" supposedly allowing you a more ergonomic weight distribution with less stress on just about everything else
Hallo Randall, tolles Video, nice Gear Room!
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Nice Cobra emblem 😊😊😊
Are you sure your empty ALICE weighs 12-15 lbs? My large ALICE must be the UL Hiker version, it's not even close to 12lbs. And I attached the shelf piece. xD (I didn't use a scale, though. Maybe I just grew a lot of strength camping on the couch over winter^^)
Yes sir! I weighed it recently. 18 years of built up dust and whatever it picked up. I guess I could remove it from the frame and wash it, but I'm too lazy 😂
couldn't resist, had to check it myself, scale says it's 2,6 Kg, about 5lbs.
What are your thoughts on using the MOLLE 2 Shoulder Straps and Waste Pad on the ALICE Pack (aka Hellfire Mod)?
Haven't tried that
Moleskin… the stories I could tell you about how it(didn’t) work. Medical tape or Gorilla tape when necessary… along with good fitting,well broken in boots. Grunt life!
I tried it several times but always had to add medical or duct tape, so I just cut out the expensive middle man.
@@GruntProof why pay for something that just doesn’t contribute?😂
Can I use sandbags for weight?
Jesus if I put a rucksack on like that I’d end up in an ambulance
Man...I know ALICE is your first love, but wow...it looks so uncomfortable. Is that a WW2 era design? I am a pampered civilian though so can you blame me? Molly definitely has that modern backpack technology that just improves how you gear hangs and it looks like today's bags, but with lots of daisy chains and stuff. Pretty cool!
Curious...you own or ever used a civilian type bag?
I have a few civilian bags but none of them are name brands. This summer I wanted to start playing with backpacking bags for Grunt Proof. I know I'll destroy them but at least I can show you guys some less-popular but decent brands
@@GruntProof that'd be cool. I'm really interested in seeing how well some of this stuff holds up to your testing standards.
I tried a few light packs back in the day, they didn't last a hike with me. Grunt Proof and Dummy Proof are synonymous 😂
@@GruntProof I run a Voodoo Tactical Discrete 3 Day Pack (discontinued but I think still available with some searching), a Cannae Sarcina Expedition, and my old ALICE, which I liberated from CIF way back in the day. Honestly I prefer the civilian packs though, especially the Voodoo.
Grateful for the reminder to wear pants
any experience with the marine ilbe? i picked one up at vet stand down and haven't used it yet. it doesn't have a waist belt or lid with it.
Yea it's tough as hell
Where can I get those packs ?
That ALICE fame also alows for a 3ltr camelpak on it. Thats how I do mine up. I also only have a medium.
Dude, Where can I find that shirt!!!!!!
Discontinued. It's basically a UV shirt with reinforced shoulders
@@GruntProof Alright, man. Thanks.
How does the difference from a medium alice ruck to a large affect how the ruck is carried; specifically with avg size dude's vs much taller dude's.
Does it make a difference with a large or medium ruck for big and tall dude's?
Well they both adjust the same, but the L carries a lot more weight of course.
@@GruntProof i thought as much. It does not help a taller dude to go with a large alice ruck over a medium. Tanks!
Height is less a factor than width, not talking fat bodies, but shoulder width and torso length greatly impact fit, not all frames fit us all perfectly. The My ALICE fits better than my MOLLE 2 but the M is fully adjustable and the straps/pads improve load distribution. The large rucks can hold more gear further from your back and increase the pull on the shoulders, but the medium carries the weight higher up on the torso. Your load plan determines the balance and pull of the weight, some like it high between the shoulders, I prefer low and close to the frame/body
@@tadcobert1307 I agree with Tad, if anything you can always add the molle sleeping bag carrier to the frame if you want to go medium alice to carry a sleeping bag, plus it looks pretty cool too. I personally have a Berghaus Vulcan 2 bergen (size 3) and would not switch to an alice/molle again.
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