He wanted less physicality, but he settled for LeBron James….. Even the commissioner of this era spit on LeBron’s grave with this one……. Media member: “Who is your GOAT?” Who is your player? Best player of all time.” Commissioner Adam Silver: “Michael Jordan. And don’t tell LeBron I said that.” I wished that the audio of this very short conversation went more viral, and stayed viral forever. RIP to LeBron James’ brief moment of only teasing the possibility that he was ever in Michael Jordan’s GOAT conversation. Even the commissioner of this era spit on LeBron’s grave with this one! RIP to LeBron’s goat case. Let him retire right now, and you people would crumble under the weight of the truth that LeBum James failed to even catch Michael Jordan….this is why he’s scared to retire. Both NBA commissioners (RIP David Stern) identified Michael Jordan as the GOAT - the greatest basketball player in human history. 🤷♂️
Not entirely. One could argue that he made an assumption that 3s and dunks are entertaining and in demand, so he thought let's focus the game towards that. Sadly, when you never played yourself and was always picked last in the gym, you fail to understand that doing so results in destruction of an all around game, making it one dimensional....
Newsflash - you are not the NBA’s paying customer. The networks, advertisers, city councils, etc. are the paying customers for the NBA. They don’t care about the game, the fans, the players, etc…
Well no, it's what is hardcore bball purists want. The general, "let's hit some dingers, shoot logo 3s, throw hail Mary's or get pass interference who cares!" general audience that just wants "wham bam high octane action!" instead of appreciating the AMAZING THOUGHTS OF CREATING these amazing games and rules ....and ESPECIALLY basketball & how beautiful it is wjen it's played right... I'm STILL gearing up for my stupid Jets in 30 min lol, but I know I'm gonna roll my eyes at some bs "late hit" or "roughing" the qb or nonsense tickytacky pass interference call, Eben if it helps MY team... and then some 4½ step "and 1" bs call for my Knicks next time they're on... and eventually in spring, watching 2 or 3 guys on my Mets strikeout or HR with a man in scoring position, time and time again wjen just choking up and slapping a ball over 1b to get the run in and keep tje momentum of the inning going Ps yes i know, what a rich, beautifully woven tapestry of winning I've committed 40+ years to being a Jets Knicks and Mets fan 😂
Sounded exactly like the crap I say at home when talking NBA... its not actually basketball for those of us traied to FOLLOW THE RULES... it's funny because its supposed to be more streamlined, but we have guys standing around getting less cardio than ANY previous era. And the dribbling.. to ME looks like kids man.. its AKWARD looking.. But to a young person, the older footage looks akward and slower because they are used to seing guys practice thier ballerina acts whilst.. NOT dribbling.. and if someone resists.. RUN THEM OVER.. to me, it looks terribel today, just doesnt actually resemble what the WRITTEN RULES ARE.. I still think yes, 90s was a nice balance.. 70s was REALLY hard on offenses... far as I can see... so make Wilt and Kareems numbers more impressive really, you HAD to have finnesse to succeed back then.
Madam Silver took out the fire that forged legends. Edit: I thought they should have included MJ's statement on Oprah about the ridiculous money young bucks get signed for based on "potential". They end up having nothing left to earn or prove. Oakley also shared how he hated coaching the younger players in that Interview with KG.
It's crazy how so many people just ignore how the NBA itself said they were going to loosen rules so players could score more, see these insane game scores since the NBA said they were changing rules and just chalk it up to everyone just being better. And then those same people actually think guys like MJ, Shaq, Bird, Hakeem, etc would struggle under these rules. We got guys scoring 40+ points and not accounting for 1/3 of the teams total points now while losing by 15. How can you judge real evolution in talent when you've dumbed down the rules and removed so many obstacles? It's like when the NFL changed so many rules favoring the pass that for a stretch we had like 8 5000+ yard passers in two years and another 10-15 4500+ yard guys.
i think player back then were smarter than players today. today is a hit or miss approach. while, back then, players had to find ways to win when their shots are not going in.
I think Nique was reacting to JJ saying that Larry Bird was only a great shooter because he would shood open jump shots and nobody was guarding him. Why so few recent players refuse to learn from the previous generations is beyond me. If Larry shot an open shot it was because his teammates or himself created that space. And Nique knows it first hand as he was always guarding Larry. And as one of the athletically most gifted NBA players ever Nique always said that guarding Larry was one of his toughest assignments. On a related topic: in some video/videos when asked about their all time starting 5, I remember some people said something like: Magic, Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Shaq. I would be very curious how long would LeBron stay on that team, because the other four, especially MJ, Kobe and Magic would not put up with his antics. He would be forced to play defense. I would give him 1 season max, he would be either traded or he would leave on his own. Regarding fixing the NBA: bring back 90's rules and actually enforce them, bring back the original 5 positions as a core of the game, no rest days unless injured. If I would compare it to martial arts world: the 80's were MMA, 90's-2004 were Kyokushin Karate and since then it gradually became ceremonial Aikido. Bonus: get rid of LeBron, Bronny and JJ, they can start their own Walking and Flopping Basketbrick Podcast League. I am not a Laker fan per se, but they deserve better and it seems to me they have enough players for starting 5 without LBJ to actually be a solid team worthy of the Lakers organization.
The video ending with Chuck is kinda perfect. Cuz he says it how it is. It's the truth. They are spoiled. But as u touched early in the video. U made a great point about saying it's not necessarily the players who are soft, it's the rules. I agree with that. The 1 exception would be Joel Embiid...... that dude is Charmin
exactly.....so most of the players are in fact SOFT. But the reason they're soft is because of the rules being so soft. It's a cause and reaction situation. If the rules get tougher then the players have no choice but to rise to that level of toughness just like it was before
@TheRealMindCrime not gonna happen in the world we live in now brother. People get hurt by words now, and offended when someone has a different opinion...... everyone being the same doesn't apply to just basketball, it also applies to actual life now
I felt this in my freakin soul!! I was a defensive player in my day, so i can not stand watching nba games where the teams are just taking turns shooting 3s. The fact that young ppl are learning nd playing like this is crazy. I understand the sport can change, but c'mon now. My younger brother is grown now, but a few years back, when he was in HS, his team freakin dominated. Mainly because my brother nd a few others not only had the physical part of the game down, but also the mental/fundamentals. A couple of players acting as on court coaches to a physically able team (plus a great coach) made all the difference. They had a team that had players who knew both offense nd defense. Plus, they all played differently but adapted well to each others play style. They weren't just tryna show off fancy dribbles nd worried about their own stats. Too many young ppl who only focus on NBA to learn are not only too concerned with competing against their own teammates more than the opposing team, but also they're too busy trying to get their stats up nd be a lone all star. To be clear - not all young ppl lol, but more than (imo) i should be seeing.
Two words: weighted scoring. I could get 100% on a 5th grade math test or get 90% on my Calc 3 final in college. That 100% is better so I must have been smarter right? Or was the Calc 3 test way more difficult so every problem I answered correctly held way more weight to it, and was more important to my academic career. Same thing with NBA points. Sure they are scoring more but scoring against smothering defenses is waaaaaaaay more entertaining to watch. It’s worth more. Way more skill is involved. Not to mention it creates rivalries by nature. Let em play ref! Let the boys play!
well said here Master Jedi!! That's why the scoring numbers matter less now. When Kobe got 81 we were all in shock because the rules made that very hard to do. If someone does it today it won't really impress us much because of how easy scoring is now
a "fight" is the most entertaining thing to watch. that's why people feel excited when there's faur challenge and competition. not just useless showboating.
@@m33p0I really loved those taunting like Tim Hardaway yelled IN YO FACE on Barkley's face after he made a floating lay up with foul and then Shawn Kemp pointing fingers at Alton Lister after the poster dunk Kemp did.
Gotta say love your channel. Oh and u should check out Basketball Universe: Michael Jordan invented the double team its a short video but interesting nonetheless.
0:01 Even the commissioner of this era spits on the grave of LeBron James’ GOAT case with this one……. Media member: “Who is your GOAT?” Who is your player? Best player of all time.” Commissioner Adam Silver: “Michael Jordan. And don’t tell LeBron I said that.” I wished that the audio of this very short conversation went more viral, and stayed viral forever. RIP to LeBron James’ brief moment of only teasing the possibility that he was ever in Michael Jordan’s GOAT conversation. Even the commissioner of this era spit on LeBron’s grave with this one! RIP to LeBron’s goat case. Let him retire right now, and you people would crumble under the weight of the truth that LeBum James failed to even catch Michael Jordan….this is why he’s scared to retire. Both NBA commissioners (RIP David Stern) identified Michael Jordan as the GOAT - the greatest basketball player in human history. 🤷♂️
3:25 I don't think that the soft rules forces NBA players to load-manage. I get what you're saying about the physicality, but the fact that the physicality has been completely removed, yet players are constantly load-managing......the fact that the rules are soft, actually makes the players even softer. LeBron James and other players who have flat-out missed games because of "soreness", even though the rules are softer, if the past players played through soreness in a league full of physicality, then sorry my guy, this current generation of players deserves to be attacked. You can make the argument that the "load-managing" and the excessive "load-managing" for anything including the trivial by-products of playing a children's game, like non-contact sports, such as "foot soreness" is actually softer than the lack of physicality in the current NBA. Some are somewhat okay with the lack of defense and physicality, they just want these millionaire little girls to just play, even if their little tummies hurt, or they have a life-threatening-OMG the world is coming to an end-type sore pinky toe. So compared to Michael Jordan's flu-game/food-poisoning, Isiah Thomas playing on one leg, Iverson's broken body, Kobe Bryant's broken body, et cetera, et cetera, I think that we have to admit that the player's are soft and the rules were softened to cater to these soft players, or somehow both the players and the rules coincidentally became soft at the same time. If Popovich started "load-managing", then he's soft for that move. Since LeBron James made "load-managing" popular and fashionable, then LeBron James is soft, and every player who follows his lead and/or goes down that same Cottonelle path, is just as soft as these feather-like rules. I think that old-school hardcore players like Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley would agree.
There’s a recurring discourse about how modern day NBA players are more skilled and athletic than ever. To me, all that means is that the game of basketball should be even tougher. Why are athletically superior players doing LESS to score? Why are athletically superior players RESTRICTED from playing proper defence? Why is a league with the most athletic players to date making the game EASIER? The aesthetic appeal of dunking the ball is only 50% jumping high enough to do it. The other 50% of the appeal is the fact that you’re doing it from a sea of opposing bodies. Professional sports - no matter what sport it is - is about athletes rising above adversity. In basketball, adversity is embodied by defence. You win by scoring more than the opposing team. Defence is how you prevent the opposing team from scoring more than you. The more you restrict the defence with your ruleset, the closer the game of basketball gets to a game of HORSE. When MJ was hitting a wall with the Bad Boy Pistons essentially beating the hell out of him coming out of the 80s, he wasn’t hoping the league would put restrictions on defence so he could get his moves in more frequently. He hit the weights, put on some muscle, and proceeded to spend the next decade shrugging off body-checks like an aerial NFL lineman.
To many begging/asking for foul calls without getting foul. To many flopping after 2010 when the rise of creating super teams made the NBA drop to it's worst viewer ratings.
5:14 Youre right. I think what happened in the late 90s is coaches like Mike Fratello in Cleveland slowed everything down and used all 24 seconds to try to minimize possessions so their less-talented teams could have a chance against better teams. It’s more likely he could beat the Bulls in a 90-possession game than in a 100-possession game. And that stuff got boring as soon as Jordan left. Meanwhile the rules still allowed for all the contact, and there’s your 80-74 final score…
Grand rising bro another day another blessing, I think pass players are 2 laid back, they don't see that the commissioner and the players are destroying the game they work so hard to build
8:55 It’s also “easier these days to stay healthy and actually play many more years” because of the “load-managing”. Again I think that load-managing is softer than the lack of physicality because on one side, you’re playing and performing with softer rules, but on the other side, you’re not even playing and performing. Playing with no defense is more hardcore than being in street-clothes watching on sidelines. On one side, you’re still being a basketball player with softer rules versus being a like us the fans, wearing street clothes and just watching from the audience or watching the TV from home. Can they force players to play and weaponize their salaries? There might be federal laws or NBA laws to protect the players. Team physicians said that Kawhi Leonard was perfectly healthy, so if they denied him pay, he would’ve likely retired from the NBA, sued the NBA, and the Toronto Raptors wouldn’t have a championship banner hanging from the rafters. Even though fans disapproved, I don’t think that the Toronto Raptors regret allowing Kawhi Leonard to load-manage. I think that the players would have to want to play. The NBA would risk legal issues, lockouts, and lost-wages trying to force adults to play, despite real or fake injuries.
JW pointed this out, players were laughing at the sidelines while being blown out, man the audacity of the new era is disappointing. Back then there will be a punishment for losing your honor cause your opponents has blown you out, in todays game, its like they dont value honor anymore.
yeah....of course their laughing....they're getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars that day alone for resting on the bench. They don't care about winning anymore
Rick Barry really nailed the things that bug me, moving picks and travelling/carrying the ball is happening every single play. The game just looks so sloppy. What bugs me the most is guys crying to refs or flopping to the ground and not getting back on defense, that shiz did not fly back in the day. Coaches had power and were respected, refs had power.. now its all in the divas hands and they just don't care enough.
They want Entertainment, we want competition. Soccer game is older and they dont need to change game and score more goals. The players become more skilled out of necessity, coaches strategies become more creative just to find a way. No one wants to see a soccer game 34-20.
To be fair, he said he just said it to get people's attention ^_^ I think Reggie can average ~30 in today. I am having a hard time thinking 35 because he wasn't consistent in being aggressive and was more like a catch and shoot player than someone who creates his own shot.
Technically Adam Silver wasn’t wrong about the physical play in late 90s, especially if that’s when he started watching. When Pat Riley joined the Knicks, he had to adapt to the players he had on the roster. They played very physical but not like the bad boy Pistons. Knicks still play physical after Pat Riley went to Miami. Knicks stuck with physical play and Miami started playing physical. Those Knicks vs Heat games were very physical. The scoring was starting to get lower too!
Oh man that was the best rivalry I've ever seen in the late 90s. Knicks won 3 of the 4 playoff matchups against the Heat with that physical old school real defense. That 1999 matchup was the best because it was decided in the last eight tenths of the game.
Yep that's my hometown Blazers Timmy talking about. They will have a couple good games, than lose multiple by 30, 40, 50. These kids have no heart for the game, I stopped watching years ago and have tried getting back into it, but I just can't. Could you imagine Jordan's Bulls losing by 40 multiple times in a season?
When watching today’s game of basketball it’s like watching a bunch of clones jacking up threes from deep, doing gestures like “he’s too small” and all that crap. You can’t tell which team is different from the next everyone particularly runs the same offense it’s truly a copycat league.
Very true.. it reminds me of 5-year old kids all running with the ball (travelling) and jacking up shots randomly from anywhere. It's truly disorganized.
@@justinrussell851 Fr man like once upon a time the league was more authentic, teams had their own style of offence and players were actually playing defence (even if they wasn’t the best defender).
@Monstafreak21 exactly.. the teams are essentially carbon copies of each other, and there isn't much separation in terms of skill level. I would honestly have no issue if the skill level was high, but it is not. The players of today lack discipline.. motivation.. commitment.. and drive. I would argue that the NBA is a side hustle for some who just want to gain popularity and followers. The sad reality is that players' competitive drive is nowhere to be found. You'll seriously find a more competitive game in the WNBA or just a YMCA.
Steph wouldn't make it under the old rules. He was already injury prone. So if players are allowed to get physical with him....he'd stay injured...or turn into what his father was....a great spot up shooter.
I agree with your every word at the end. Playing a sport at the professional level isn't suppose to be a luxury. Sure, you can live a luxurious life as a result for making it because it's one of the most difficult jobs to reach but it's also suppose to be one of the most challenging jobs to do and maintain. The league has ruined what it means to be a professional athlete. This is why the load managing upsets so many people. It is suppose to be hard. When you're 5 years old, dreaming of playing in the NBA, you know the NBA is an 82 game season. If you don't like it, don't have the dream.
exactly! the dream is to play the game hard and the lifestyle rewards come but that wasn't the dream. The dream was to play the game at the highest level and win. Now it's lifestyle first, basketball second. A job that pays $500k per day should be difficult, not easy. But here we are.....load manage and still make all that lifestyle money.
@TheRealMindCrime exactly! You're right. It's the leagues fault. It was like every other job. You strive to be great at doing something you loved and were rewarded based on the achievement. These guys get paid tens of millions but prefer the second job of podcasting. I liked in another video you said guys in the 90's wouldn't mess with social media. They wouldn't care. It's true. Why care? Real life is right in front of them and they're being paid to play the game they love.
That’s a fun video! I agree that Jordan could score whatever he wanted. As largely an off ball shooter that scores with flow I only see Reggie getting around 30. I could be off 😊 they do chuck a lot of 3s. :P
And you know, since you and I played the game, if we were in basketball shape today, in our 40s like we are, we would give these young dudes the business, I would put my life on that, real shit
Oh 100%! Before i tore my calf earlier this year i would still do it sometimes lol. I have some friends in their 20s i used to work with and we would hoop sometimes. I literally destroy them with defense, toughness, and fundamentals and they get so frustrated because they're better than others at their age lol. I post em up and they can't handle the physicality lol. Defensively i know they have 2 moves. I give them space and they go for a very blockable step back. I play up on them and they go for a easily blockable blow by layup. They don't know how to play with their back to the basket anymore. Sorry for the long reply but yes. We absolutely could still bust their butts on the court if our bodies allowed us to still do it lol
@TheRealMindCrime I think it's criminal that this newer generation lack basic fundamentals of basketball. You still managed to dominate because you must've slowed down the pace to overpower them in the post. It might seem boring, but it is more technical imo.
What’s not being accurately stated is that the NBA has a basketball EDUCATION problem. Most of these players never went to basketball school, they’ve just played a lot.
3:20 THIS is why I keep suggesting thinking basketball's video "how the NBA makes scoring easier" to u all the time.... it's all about naming AND SHOWING, how the RULES of the game just crumbled and SHOWS actual physical examples... You'll begin to gag on ur own boisterous belly's bubbling bile, I tellsya!!!
It is 100% correct that this is all about what the NBA does, the commissioner in particular. A bird in a cage knows only the life inside its cage. These youngins would never understand what these legends are saying because that is not what they are experiencing. That is why they are talking foolish so confidently. The blame is on the commissioner and the NBA, they should set free these kids and experience what we have seen from yesteryears.
Oh I remember well as table official/announcer two years ago in a tournament for kids in my home village where the refs here don't even call an offensive foul against the big kid who always bodyvslammed anyone when his team is on offense. It really angered me because that's a travesty to the game. I really loved setting screens for my teammates when I played whether that's a 2 on 2 game or 5 on 5 game.
You should respond to that clip from Gill's arena where Gil does the math on the three-pointers and break down how it's not even worth it. Its from a few days ago on his TH-cam channel
I get Adam Silver's reason to increase scoring but how many fans actually asked for it? What is a competitive game without defenses being able to use their strengths? My favorite thing in all of competitive sports is a defensive battle. My favorite highlights in every sport are defensive plays. That's why it's so hard to watch a full game. Scoring after scoring is boring unless it doesn't happen often. I have to have it on in the background while I'm doing something else.
no fans asked for it. it was his idea, not ours. Hence the highest rated game of all time is still by far game 6 of the 1998 Finals. Silver thought this would make the game even better but it backfired
I always called this NBA now a Arcade Basketball... everybody shooting alongside their opponents without defense in their face. All about money, entertainment and laughs.
I think Adam Silver is being proven wrong by the decline in ratings. Watching whatever the NBA is supposed to be because what I saw in the last game was NOT basketball. I always wondered why Jordan never tried coaching, now I know lol. Imagine going to a KISS concert and you paid 400 bucks for front row and you get there and are told "Hey Gene ya know he's not feeling it tonight so we're throwing in Joe Blow in his place" You'd demand a refund that's what it's like buying tickets to a game you might see superstar vs superstar...but probably not your odds are better winning the jackpot honestly.
exactly!! no one else seems to get that lol. These tickets cost money, we expect to see the stars in the show. Every Suns game I at least check the NBA app to check on our roster. We almost never have all 3 stars out there. Currently is KD out again. Last week it was KD and Beal out. It's really bad...
I saw Ray Allen once saying "we all know what the NBA stands for, No Boys Allowed". Look at the NBA now, even babies that didn t even start crawling are allowed. I do agree that the problem are the rules. Lots of players are tough, they grew up having to hold up their own, they made it to the NBA (not you Bronny)... So they can definately be tough. But the rules and the salaries that they make, have demolished their mentality. They are not the same any more. They are spoiled and became soft now. And they get paid for potential, without proving anything, which is totally wrong. So I agree with the "play and get paid rule", unless someone is really injured of course, but rest isn t allowed. I remember last year after the all star, they stopped calling fouls for nothing and made the game immediately much better!!
Respect you for acknowledging the rules that make basketball "soft"instead of attacking this generation for that it realizing the cause and in the same vein I think you may have reacted to another video defend why the players before look so clunky with their dribbling because in today game they change to traveling rules with the amount of step and stops they are allowed. Player like AI was beginning of those changes and allowing euro steps. So in the same way it unfair for today's player to say they didn't know how play or weren't as talented since they couldnt get away with what today players get away with traveling. And though I would think today players may have more talent it only because we have so much more science and understanding of the human body to get most out of it . A champion player is always a champion
Thank you! Yeah, its too easy to blame the players. I'm a big picture kinda guy so im always looking at what causes these things to happen and in thid case is Silvers rules. Can't play defense without getting called for a foul? Ok then, they won't play tough defense. Full pay for players even if they ditch games? Ok, they load manage. I would've skipped school all the time if i didn't get penalized for it. But i got in trouble so i didn't do it lol. Simple logic really.
@TheRealMindCrime we often don't like changing our opinions and when we have a way thinking and presented with info that counters are beliefs most of rather ignore and be in deny but that fact that you were presented with new info and could say hey this what going so why am I going blame them when the system is the one that is allowing them otherwise they wouldn't do it cause they had play defense. Still good for being open and I didn't think about that until I heard about it in more details
well, they are soft. The current game made them this way. Load managing and no defense and crazy pay levels. Same goes for spoiling a child. They will end up soft and entitled because their parents made life that way for them
I think what you are trying to say is that these load management is taking their bodies out of condition due to inconsistent load thus making them more prone to injuries and the cycle goes on. Whereas players of old were grinding out as much as they could and had their bodies used to all those banging and became more resistant to injuries.
No player is unique anymore, everybody plays the same. For example when Dwight Howard used to play you know it's Dwight Howard. Now nobody has a go to move, nobody plays with a purpose. That is the problem
The rules play a significant role in this, and it’s a fact that when referees officiate as they did in the 90s, defenders are able to defend more effectively. They would undoubtedly adjust to a different set of rules. On the other hand, the current rest periods are excessive because the rules are much softer, so in my opinion, players should need less rest than they did in the past. That’s why they seem softer nowadays. Also, I refuse to believe that players are genuinely forced to take rest periods without having a say in the matter, regardless of what is claimed in the media that are teams that do that to preserve their investment on the players! About anything else talked in the video I believe is a huge flaw in the rules!
I had been watching basketball since I was 8 years old.. now I'm 44 and it's just not interesting anymore. The game is a shell of itself. Now, I have a young son and wanted to at least expose him to my love of the NBA, but I feel that I (like many people) were stripped of that opportunity.
Love the reaction as always bro. Can you also check out a video called "Charles Barkley accuses LeBron James of CHEATING" from Dark Black Times. Ready for your reaction.
4:15 I disagree and I think the players are a product of their upbringing in America which is softer now. With participation trophies, everyone is special, safe space mentality American athletes aren’t what they were mentally or physically. That’s why players born outside this country are dominating imo
I want to see physical basketball again. I'm sick of seeing 3 dribbles over half court and then launching a three. I want to see 90 to 82 point games. Not 132 to 122 point games. I want defense back.
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He said, "Too physical"?!?!! This fool hates basketball! How did he even ascend? Dancing with the Stars has more physicality than modern NBA! That's a freaking sin!!!
I think the statement of letting players lower chances to injury is misleading. Adam want the game to be like WWE showdown, so many similar games theses days. The past players have to give on court adjustment to adopt to different situations. I think is this factor change that make game less competitive but not rules that greatly changes. U see in Lakers game, if their hedges failed serval time, they do not change, and just let the game be blown out. That is the thing that Adam Silver brought to NBA and totally unacceptable.
plus injuries are happening more frequently than ever now so this is obviously not working. It made sense but it didn't work so it's time to change it back
@@TheRealMindCrime Should start with allowing the real double team be back. And more strict on dribbling rules. Then the paces would be down. Most of the players are unable to handle the ball without carrying.
Just because the rules are soft and pathetic. Doesn't mean every team plays exactly the same way. Chuck up 3s isn't basketball. What do NBA coaches do today?
The basic rules of the game make it basketball. If you don't enforce those you aren't playing the same game. Today's NBA is unwatchable. Most teams don't even play team basketball.
Not in totality when you say that “the players are a product of the rules”. “The players are a product of an entitlement era” more like it. MJ, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Magic Bird, Dr J, Kareem, etc., they grewup in a time where family values and simplistic thinking towards what people think about them and their egos were more humble and their humility was strong. World validation today is all these dudes think about. And if they don’t get it, they whine and cry. It is a softer era not just from a “RULE” standpoint. But more from a “CHARACTER” standpoint. Not even a question about it…..
I see what youre saying but it starts with the rules. If I wouldn't get in trouble for ditching high school back in the day then I would've done it a lot more than I did. But I got in trouble and also had to figure out how to make up the work. Same with jobs, don't show up? Don't get paid. The NBA rules now allow them to ditch work whenever and still make their crazy money in full, no penalty, no make up work, money in full. Crime levels would go up in the USA if there was no longer any law enforcement. The players have become soft and entitled over time as these current rules and pay levels have spoiled them rotton.
I feel that it's 2 parts, one its the players and the other is the rules. The players should be playing the game the same way that want to be remember and judged. Instead it seems that players are upselling the rules and complaining about tacky fouls then being defensive about the optics of the league. Jordan didn't whine on the court over every little foul, he rose above. With Coaching, I feel that the coaches today are also too soft because the office are more willing to defend and fight for the player over the coach. Few coaches today have the character to demand respect.
Your channel is such a great curated playlist of good basketball content. I'm gonna make an effort to always at least give the original video a like. 👍
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Most people here don't understand what is going on but we've met the criteria for a recession for 2 years now and going. The media and politicians don't acknowledge it so most people here don't understand why everyone is broke. Thank you, i believe in a few years things will be better and i know the USA is not the only place with financial problems these days. I wish everyone luck these next few years. Thank you 🙏
@TheRealMindCrime For some reason I like you Maybe you are a good man I dont want to be pessimistic But something very bad is coming Take care yourself and your family And dont trust the media neithrer your New elected president
Adam Silver, the original Fembot, no doubt...It's also the players fault in part too, they exploit the softness, don't kid yourself- That point is proven with players like Embid, taking advantage of the system, they are also accountable for the demise...The flop is a prime example, and it;s not only Lebone that does it, even if he is the king of the flop (and illegal, moving screen)... Some players choose to do it...Also, not playing back to backs proves some of the players are soft by choice-Too much of a good thing is rarely the answer to anything, especially more dunks and three's..."Load management" WTF even is that...How ridiculous that it even exists , I'm gonna tell my boss i need to load manage on the construction site, and can't work back to back days...What a JOKE!! Make a dunk worth 3 points...Maybe... That will make some excitement at the rim, and take away all the bs jack ups from the 3 line...KG is so real, love that guy!! Timmy Hardaway, OG is fk, total baller right there, so real- Charles being Charles: RESPECT
Is the term "more talented" given to today's players strictly because they shoot more 3 pointers? What else are they really doing that's "better"? Traveling, flopping, carrying, illegal screens, load managing.... The excessive 3 point shooting makes for a boring game because it limits creativity and all the teams look the same. That's bad enough, but on top of that players can't or won't play within the basic rules of basketball. If they don't play without constantly committing violations, how can they be labeled more talented?
impeach silver!! they need someone that actually loves the game to bring it back to it's former glory. but that's not the reality we live in these days.
Adam Silver ruined NBA basketball. Point blank. Adam Silver is more concerned about pushing social agendas and pleasing out of their prime athletes, than focusing on pleasing the paying customer, the fans.
exactly!!! he should be listening to the customers. NBA hasn't made any money off me in years now. I find other method to watch the games and refuse to pay them while the product is this bad. Only time they make money from me is when they claim one of my videos lol. When the product is good again, I'll buy the League Pass again because it's really convenient
The main issue is the players don`t play all the games that they are supposed to play in. Nowadays the average player plays around 65 games and it`s too much to ask the players to play in 70 games. When there is no money or glory on the line the players turn the All-Star game into a 2hour crapfest that is almost painful to watch. When your top star players don`t play or don`t play at all fans will rather watch something else than this garbage.
This style of play is even poisoning pickup basketball everyone just chucking 3s no defense and the moving screens my God. If you come to me setting a moving screen I’m running through your chest
Imagine if Jordan load managed allowed his starem to go to his head the league would not be wat it is today there wouldn't be other stars with shoe deals there wouldn't be the expansion to international global explosion becuz like now no one would watch there would be no commercials sometimes I dream that he is like Mike if I could be like Mike the goat the king of kings the Emperor the NBA will never be at that height again as far as ratings and viewership
soft commissioner soft rules, I remember seeing 3D Adam Silver in NBA Live before he was calling the 2nd rd draft pick of the career mode, skinny af I actually thought he was gay LMAO
Nothing but excuses from E.T. Silver. Stop softening the rules. Enforce the rules. Don't let players carry the ball. Call travelling. Call double dribbles. And WTF is this 'gather step' crap? It's called TRAVELLING. You want to keep the 3 pt. line? Fine, but the travelling that virtually all the players commit when they do those step-back shots MUST BE CALLED. Harden wasn't wrong for doing what he did. He read the soft rule book, made adjustments and blew up scoring, because he was allowed to travel on step-back threes. Just call the rule violations, is that so goddam hard to do? Really? Reggie is funny. The currently acclaimed 'best shooter ever' Steph Curry, doesn't seem to be averaging 45 or even 35. So, I highly doubt Reggie would. MJ on the other hand, yeah, he would score whatever it took to win.
About 99.9% of the time I agree with your assessment of the game today but not here!! The rules are soft yes, but so are today's players!!! The rules don't make you flop around whining and throwing titty tantrums like a kid who doesn't get their way!!! This generation of basketball players are absolutely 100% SOFT AF and that's just a fact!!! Never in my 47 years of life have I played a pick up game at the park and had to deal with the crying about fouls crap like this generation does!!! SOFT
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It's what Adam Silver wanted, not what the paying customers want.
He wanted less physicality, but he settled for LeBron James…..
Even the commissioner of this era spit on LeBron’s grave with this one…….
Media member: “Who is your GOAT?” Who is your player? Best player of all time.”
Commissioner Adam Silver: “Michael Jordan. And don’t tell LeBron I said that.”
I wished that the audio of this very short conversation went more viral, and stayed viral forever.
RIP to LeBron James’ brief moment of only teasing the possibility that he was ever in Michael Jordan’s GOAT conversation.
Even the commissioner of this era spit on LeBron’s grave with this one! RIP to LeBron’s goat case. Let him retire right now, and you people would crumble under the weight of the truth that LeBum James failed to even catch Michael Jordan….this is why he’s scared to retire. Both NBA commissioners (RIP David Stern) identified Michael Jordan as the GOAT - the greatest basketball player in human history. 🤷♂️
We need dynamo to take over as commissioner
Not entirely. One could argue that he made an assumption that 3s and dunks are entertaining and in demand, so he thought let's focus the game towards that. Sadly, when you never played yourself and was always picked last in the gym, you fail to understand that doing so results in destruction of an all around game, making it one dimensional....
Newsflash - you are not the NBA’s paying customer. The networks, advertisers, city councils, etc. are the paying customers for the NBA. They don’t care about the game, the fans, the players, etc…
Well no, it's what is hardcore bball purists want.
The general, "let's hit some dingers, shoot logo 3s, throw hail Mary's or get pass interference who cares!" general audience that just wants "wham bam high octane action!" instead of appreciating the AMAZING THOUGHTS OF CREATING these amazing games and rules ....and ESPECIALLY basketball & how beautiful it is wjen it's played right...
I'm STILL gearing up for my stupid Jets in 30 min lol, but I know I'm gonna roll my eyes at some bs "late hit" or "roughing" the qb or nonsense tickytacky pass interference call, Eben if it helps MY team... and then some 4½ step "and 1" bs call for my Knicks next time they're on... and eventually in spring, watching 2 or 3 guys on my Mets strikeout or HR with a man in scoring position, time and time again wjen just choking up and slapping a ball over 1b to get the run in and keep tje momentum of the inning going
Ps yes i know, what a rich, beautifully woven tapestry of winning I've committed 40+ years to being a Jets Knicks and Mets fan 😂
Rick Barry brought it, here. On point.
right!? He was on fire
Sounded exactly like the crap I say at home when talking NBA... its not actually basketball for those of us traied to FOLLOW THE RULES... it's funny because its supposed to be more streamlined, but we have guys standing around getting less cardio than ANY previous era.
And the dribbling.. to ME looks like kids man.. its AKWARD looking..
But to a young person, the older footage looks akward and slower because they are used to seing guys practice thier ballerina acts whilst.. NOT dribbling.. and if someone resists.. RUN THEM OVER.. to me, it looks terribel today, just doesnt actually resemble what the WRITTEN RULES ARE.. I still think yes, 90s was a nice balance.. 70s was REALLY hard on offenses... far as I can see... so make Wilt and Kareems numbers more impressive really, you HAD to have finnesse to succeed back then.
Madam Silver took out the fire that forged legends. Edit: I thought they should have included MJ's statement on Oprah about the ridiculous money young bucks get signed for based on "potential". They end up having nothing left to earn or prove. Oakley also shared how he hated coaching the younger players in that Interview with KG.
Oh i love that Jordan quote. He was so right about it all
you bring a great energy, love the channel
Thank you!
As usual commissioner Gollum implies that defense isn’t a skill and that only offense is a skill which is ridiculous.
Exactly 💯
It's crazy how so many people just ignore how the NBA itself said they were going to loosen rules so players could score more, see these insane game scores since the NBA said they were changing rules and just chalk it up to everyone just being better. And then those same people actually think guys like MJ, Shaq, Bird, Hakeem, etc would struggle under these rules. We got guys scoring 40+ points and not accounting for 1/3 of the teams total points now while losing by 15. How can you judge real evolution in talent when you've dumbed down the rules and removed so many obstacles? It's like when the NFL changed so many rules favoring the pass that for a stretch we had like 8 5000+ yard passers in two years and another 10-15 4500+ yard guys.
Game without rules meaningless....
i think player back then were smarter than players today. today is a hit or miss approach. while, back then, players had to find ways to win when their shots are not going in.
and that's what made scoring so exciting and also made the players get creative
I think Nique was reacting to JJ saying that Larry Bird was only a great shooter because he would shood open jump shots and nobody was guarding him. Why so few recent players refuse to learn from the previous generations is beyond me. If Larry shot an open shot it was because his teammates or himself created that space. And Nique knows it first hand as he was always guarding Larry. And as one of the athletically most gifted NBA players ever Nique always said that guarding Larry was one of his toughest assignments.
On a related topic: in some video/videos when asked about their all time starting 5, I remember some people said something like: Magic, Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Shaq. I would be very curious how long would LeBron stay on that team, because the other four, especially MJ, Kobe and Magic would not put up with his antics. He would be forced to play defense. I would give him 1 season max, he would be either traded or he would leave on his own.
Regarding fixing the NBA: bring back 90's rules and actually enforce them, bring back the original 5 positions as a core of the game, no rest days unless injured. If I would compare it to martial arts world: the 80's were MMA, 90's-2004 were Kyokushin Karate and since then it gradually became ceremonial Aikido.
Bonus: get rid of LeBron, Bronny and JJ, they can start their own Walking and Flopping Basketbrick Podcast League. I am not a Laker fan per se, but they deserve better and it seems to me they have enough players for starting 5 without LBJ to actually be a solid team worthy of the Lakers organization.
The video ending with Chuck is kinda perfect. Cuz he says it how it is. It's the truth. They are spoiled. But as u touched early in the video. U made a great point about saying it's not necessarily the players who are soft, it's the rules. I agree with that. The 1 exception would be Joel Embiid...... that dude is Charmin
exactly.....so most of the players are in fact SOFT. But the reason they're soft is because of the rules being so soft. It's a cause and reaction situation. If the rules get tougher then the players have no choice but to rise to that level of toughness just like it was before
@TheRealMindCrime not gonna happen in the world we live in now brother. People get hurt by words now, and offended when someone has a different opinion...... everyone being the same doesn't apply to just basketball, it also applies to actual life now
im 30-year-old & i agree with the old school of there ISSUES With Today's NBA
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I felt this in my freakin soul!! I was a defensive player in my day, so i can not stand watching nba games where the teams are just taking turns shooting 3s. The fact that young ppl are learning nd playing like this is crazy. I understand the sport can change, but c'mon now.
My younger brother is grown now, but a few years back, when he was in HS, his team freakin dominated. Mainly because my brother nd a few others not only had the physical part of the game down, but also the mental/fundamentals. A couple of players acting as on court coaches to a physically able team (plus a great coach) made all the difference. They had a team that had players who knew both offense nd defense. Plus, they all played differently but adapted well to each others play style. They weren't just tryna show off fancy dribbles nd worried about their own stats.
Too many young ppl who only focus on NBA to learn are not only too concerned with competing against their own teammates more than the opposing team, but also they're too busy trying to get their stats up nd be a lone all star.
To be clear - not all young ppl lol, but more than (imo) i should be seeing.
Two words: weighted scoring. I could get 100% on a 5th grade math test or get 90% on my Calc 3 final in college. That 100% is better so I must have been smarter right? Or was the Calc 3 test way more difficult so every problem I answered correctly held way more weight to it, and was more important to my academic career. Same thing with NBA points. Sure they are scoring more but scoring against smothering defenses is waaaaaaaay more entertaining to watch. It’s worth more. Way more skill is involved. Not to mention it creates rivalries by nature. Let em play ref! Let the boys play!
well said here Master Jedi!! That's why the scoring numbers matter less now. When Kobe got 81 we were all in shock because the rules made that very hard to do. If someone does it today it won't really impress us much because of how easy scoring is now
@@TheRealMindCrime 100%
a "fight" is the most entertaining thing to watch. that's why people feel excited when there's faur challenge and competition. not just useless showboating.
100%
mind games was a great part of the game. now, the league is afraid to hurt these millionaires' feelings.
make taunting great again!
@@m33p0I really loved those taunting like Tim Hardaway yelled IN YO FACE on Barkley's face after he made a floating lay up with foul and then Shawn Kemp pointing fingers at Alton Lister after the poster dunk Kemp did.
Kobe talks about how flagrant fouls nowadays made him nauseous. Meanwhile LBJ is King flop.
yup!!!
Players use to kill to be play before. We can't say the same in today's NBA. What KG said is 100%
absolutely. those guys loved basketball. now they love the lifestyle
Gotta say love your channel. Oh and u should check out Basketball Universe: Michael Jordan invented the double team its a short video but interesting nonetheless.
i just put that one on the react list earlier today lol. I'll check it out sooon with you all. THanks for the kind words!
0:01 Even the commissioner of this era spits on the grave of LeBron James’ GOAT case with this one…….
Media member: “Who is your GOAT?” Who is your player? Best player of all time.”
Commissioner Adam Silver: “Michael Jordan. And don’t tell LeBron I said that.”
I wished that the audio of this very short conversation went more viral, and stayed viral forever.
RIP to LeBron James’ brief moment of only teasing the possibility that he was ever in Michael Jordan’s GOAT conversation.
Even the commissioner of this era spit on LeBron’s grave with this one! RIP to LeBron’s goat case. Let him retire right now, and you people would crumble under the weight of the truth that LeBum James failed to even catch Michael Jordan….this is why he’s scared to retire. Both NBA commissioners (RIP David Stern) identified Michael Jordan as the GOAT - the greatest basketball player in human history. 🤷♂️
Silver looks like mr freeze without thw cryosuit on lol
lol!!!
3:25 I don't think that the soft rules forces NBA players to load-manage. I get what you're saying about the physicality, but the fact that the physicality has been completely removed, yet players are constantly load-managing......the fact that the rules are soft, actually makes the players even softer. LeBron James and other players who have flat-out missed games because of "soreness", even though the rules are softer, if the past players played through soreness in a league full of physicality, then sorry my guy, this current generation of players deserves to be attacked. You can make the argument that the "load-managing" and the excessive "load-managing" for anything including the trivial by-products of playing a children's game, like non-contact sports, such as "foot soreness" is actually softer than the lack of physicality in the current NBA. Some are somewhat okay with the lack of defense and physicality, they just want these millionaire little girls to just play, even if their little tummies hurt, or they have a life-threatening-OMG the world is coming to an end-type sore pinky toe. So compared to Michael Jordan's flu-game/food-poisoning, Isiah Thomas playing on one leg, Iverson's broken body, Kobe Bryant's broken body, et cetera, et cetera, I think that we have to admit that the player's are soft and the rules were softened to cater to these soft players, or somehow both the players and the rules coincidentally became soft at the same time. If Popovich started "load-managing", then he's soft for that move. Since LeBron James made "load-managing" popular and fashionable, then LeBron James is soft, and every player who follows his lead and/or goes down that same Cottonelle path, is just as soft as these feather-like rules. I think that old-school hardcore players like Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley would agree.
It doesn't FORCE them to load manage. The rules ALLOW them to load manage while still making every penny on their contract. So they take advantage.
There’s a recurring discourse about how modern day NBA players are more skilled and athletic than ever. To me, all that means is that the game of basketball should be even tougher. Why are athletically superior players doing LESS to score? Why are athletically superior players RESTRICTED from playing proper defence? Why is a league with the most athletic players to date making the game EASIER?
The aesthetic appeal of dunking the ball is only 50% jumping high enough to do it. The other 50% of the appeal is the fact that you’re doing it from a sea of opposing bodies. Professional sports - no matter what sport it is - is about athletes rising above adversity. In basketball, adversity is embodied by defence. You win by scoring more than the opposing team. Defence is how you prevent the opposing team from scoring more than you. The more you restrict the defence with your ruleset, the closer the game of basketball gets to a game of HORSE.
When MJ was hitting a wall with the Bad Boy Pistons essentially beating the hell out of him coming out of the 80s, he wasn’t hoping the league would put restrictions on defence so he could get his moves in more frequently. He hit the weights, put on some muscle, and proceeded to spend the next decade shrugging off body-checks like an aerial NFL lineman.
To many begging/asking for foul calls without getting foul. To many flopping after 2010 when the rise of creating super teams made the NBA drop to it's worst viewer ratings.
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5:14 Youre right. I think what happened in the late 90s is coaches like Mike Fratello in Cleveland slowed everything down and used all 24 seconds to try to minimize possessions so their less-talented teams could have a chance against better teams. It’s more likely he could beat the Bulls in a 90-possession game than in a 100-possession game. And that stuff got boring as soon as Jordan left. Meanwhile the rules still allowed for all the contact, and there’s your 80-74 final score…
Exactly. We see eye to eye on this one
There's a lot of games in the 90s where teams only had slightly above 80 possessions they had per game.
Grand rising bro another day another blessing, I think pass players are 2 laid back, they don't see that the commissioner and the players are destroying the game they work so hard to build
Grand rising bro! 🌞
8:55 It’s also “easier these days to stay healthy and actually play many more years” because of the “load-managing”. Again I think that load-managing is softer than the lack of physicality because on one side, you’re playing and performing with softer rules, but on the other side, you’re not even playing and performing. Playing with no defense is more hardcore than being in street-clothes watching on sidelines. On one side, you’re still being a basketball player with softer rules versus being a like us the fans, wearing street clothes and just watching from the audience or watching the TV from home. Can they force players to play and weaponize their salaries? There might be federal laws or NBA laws to protect the players. Team physicians said that Kawhi Leonard was perfectly healthy, so if they denied him pay, he would’ve likely retired from the NBA, sued the NBA, and the Toronto Raptors wouldn’t have a championship banner hanging from the rafters. Even though fans disapproved, I don’t think that the Toronto Raptors regret allowing Kawhi Leonard to load-manage. I think that the players would have to want to play. The NBA would risk legal issues, lockouts, and lost-wages trying to force adults to play, despite real or fake injuries.
JW pointed this out, players were laughing at the sidelines while being blown out, man the audacity of the new era is disappointing. Back then there will be a punishment for losing your honor cause your opponents has blown you out, in todays game, its like they dont value honor anymore.
yeah....of course their laughing....they're getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars that day alone for resting on the bench. They don't care about winning anymore
Rick Barry really nailed the things that bug me, moving picks and travelling/carrying the ball is happening every single play. The game just looks so sloppy. What bugs me the most is guys crying to refs or flopping to the ground and not getting back on defense, that shiz did not fly back in the day. Coaches had power and were respected, refs had power.. now its all in the divas hands and they just don't care enough.
Well said. Yeah, Rick was really passionate here. I feel the same frustration
They want Entertainment, we want competition. Soccer game is older and they dont need to change game and score more goals. The players become more skilled out of necessity, coaches strategies become more creative just to find a way. No one wants to see a soccer game 34-20.
This is the problem. Competition and entertainment back then were not mutually exclusive. It can happen again but not the way things are run.
I'd be so sad if soccer games had no defense and high scores. Takes away the glory of a goal
NO! Reggie NO!! 😂😂
lol!!
@@TheRealMindCrime Stop, get some help.
To be fair, he said he just said it to get people's attention ^_^
I think Reggie can average ~30 in today. I am having a hard time thinking 35 because he wasn't consistent in being aggressive and was more like a catch and shoot player than someone who creates his own shot.
Technically Adam Silver wasn’t wrong about the physical play in late 90s, especially if that’s when he started watching.
When Pat Riley joined the Knicks, he had to adapt to the players he had on the roster. They played very physical but not like the bad boy Pistons.
Knicks still play physical after Pat Riley went to Miami. Knicks stuck with physical play and Miami started playing physical. Those Knicks vs Heat games were very physical. The scoring was starting to get lower too!
Oh man that was the best rivalry I've ever seen in the late 90s. Knicks won 3 of the 4 playoff matchups against the Heat with that physical old school real defense.
That 1999 matchup was the best because it was decided in the last eight tenths of the game.
Yep that's my hometown Blazers Timmy talking about. They will have a couple good games, than lose multiple by 30, 40, 50. These kids have no heart for the game, I stopped watching years ago and have tried getting back into it, but I just can't. Could you imagine Jordan's Bulls losing by 40 multiple times in a season?
Wow!! That literally does show zero heart
When watching today’s game of basketball it’s like watching a bunch of clones jacking up threes from deep, doing gestures like “he’s too small” and all that crap. You can’t tell which team is different from the next everyone particularly runs the same offense it’s truly a copycat league.
it really is. it's gotten so boring
@ Couldn’t agree more mate💯
Very true.. it reminds me of 5-year old kids all running with the ball (travelling) and jacking up shots randomly from anywhere. It's truly disorganized.
@@justinrussell851 Fr man like once upon a time the league was more authentic, teams had their own style of offence and players were actually playing defence (even if they wasn’t the best defender).
@Monstafreak21 exactly.. the teams are essentially carbon copies of each other, and there isn't much separation in terms of skill level. I would honestly have no issue if the skill level was high, but it is not. The players of today lack discipline.. motivation.. commitment.. and drive.
I would argue that the NBA is a side hustle for some who just want to gain popularity and followers. The sad reality is that players' competitive drive is nowhere to be found. You'll seriously find a more competitive game in the WNBA or just a YMCA.
They eurostep travel through traffic now too
lol terrible
Steph wouldn't make it under the old rules. He was already injury prone. So if players are allowed to get physical with him....he'd stay injured...or turn into what his father was....a great spot up shooter.
At best, Curry can be Abdul Rauf 2.0. But that's about it.
@dervish816 Nah....he'd be injured too much.
Yup his father was just spot up shooter and always off the bench player which Jordan totally dominated throughout.
@@dervish816Abdul Rauf was more skilled actually to be honest with you than Steph.
I agree with your every word at the end. Playing a sport at the professional level isn't suppose to be a luxury. Sure, you can live a luxurious life as a result for making it because it's one of the most difficult jobs to reach but it's also suppose to be one of the most challenging jobs to do and maintain. The league has ruined what it means to be a professional athlete.
This is why the load managing upsets so many people. It is suppose to be hard. When you're 5 years old, dreaming of playing in the NBA, you know the NBA is an 82 game season. If you don't like it, don't have the dream.
exactly! the dream is to play the game hard and the lifestyle rewards come but that wasn't the dream. The dream was to play the game at the highest level and win. Now it's lifestyle first, basketball second. A job that pays $500k per day should be difficult, not easy. But here we are.....load manage and still make all that lifestyle money.
@TheRealMindCrime exactly! You're right. It's the leagues fault. It was like every other job. You strive to be great at doing something you loved and were rewarded based on the achievement. These guys get paid tens of millions but prefer the second job of podcasting.
I liked in another video you said guys in the 90's wouldn't mess with social media. They wouldn't care. It's true. Why care? Real life is right in front of them and they're being paid to play the game they love.
bring back hand check and no defensive 3 seconds.. let players chuck their threes. but i doubt they’d have the space to do it
agreed
Yeah, it's so much easier to score but somehow no one can average more than MJ did in 87..... they think these guys are so much more skilled tho.....
i know right? lol
WIth your analogy with the band, the lead singer will -actually- show up but sit next to you and watch the concert.
That’s a fun video! I agree that Jordan could score whatever he wanted. As largely an off ball shooter that scores with flow I only see Reggie getting around 30. I could be off 😊 they do chuck a lot of 3s. :P
I remember this interview ha straight up said they made it easier for the offense the league is good still but is getting hard to watch
And you know, since you and I played the game, if we were in basketball shape today, in our 40s like we are, we would give these young dudes the business, I would put my life on that, real shit
Oh 100%! Before i tore my calf earlier this year i would still do it sometimes lol. I have some friends in their 20s i used to work with and we would hoop sometimes. I literally destroy them with defense, toughness, and fundamentals and they get so frustrated because they're better than others at their age lol. I post em up and they can't handle the physicality lol. Defensively i know they have 2 moves. I give them space and they go for a very blockable step back. I play up on them and they go for a easily blockable blow by layup. They don't know how to play with their back to the basket anymore. Sorry for the long reply but yes. We absolutely could still bust their butts on the court if our bodies allowed us to still do it lol
@TheRealMindCrime FACTS!!
@TheRealMindCrime I think it's criminal that this newer generation lack basic fundamentals of basketball. You still managed to dominate because you must've slowed down the pace to overpower them in the post. It might seem boring, but it is more technical imo.
AMEN
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Higher scoring is what's hurting the league and defense needs to come back
Yup. No one would watch soccer anymore if the scores were 20-18 because of rules that diminish defense. It would water the game down
What’s not being accurately stated is that the NBA has a basketball EDUCATION problem. Most of these players never went to basketball school, they’ve just played a lot.
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THIS is why I keep suggesting thinking basketball's video "how the NBA makes scoring easier" to u all the time.... it's all about naming AND SHOWING, how the RULES of the game just crumbled and SHOWS actual physical examples...
You'll begin to gag on ur own boisterous belly's bubbling bile, I tellsya!!!
i had it on my list but i just bumped it to the top again, the list is crazy lol. I'll try to do it this week.
Being in the NBA making millions isn't enough anymore.
You should do a video on tony parker man
Good call!
It is 100% correct that this is all about what the NBA does, the commissioner in particular.
A bird in a cage knows only the life inside its cage. These youngins would never understand what these legends are saying because that is not what they are experiencing. That is why they are talking foolish so confidently.
The blame is on the commissioner and the NBA, they should set free these kids and experience what we have seen from yesteryears.
Oh I remember well as table official/announcer two years ago in a tournament for kids in my home village where the refs here don't even call an offensive foul against the big kid who always bodyvslammed anyone when his team is on offense.
It really angered me because that's a travesty to the game.
I really loved setting screens for my teammates when I played whether that's a 2 on 2 game or 5 on 5 game.
You should respond to that clip from Gill's arena where Gil does the math on the three-pointers and break down how it's not even worth it. Its from a few days ago on his TH-cam channel
I agree with all of it. It's too much prima Madonna in this era. If they get a splinter on their pinky, they out indefinitely
Back in the days when basketball players were called CAGERS that's the kind rules i like the best that their playing.
Same
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THIS is what it's all about
exactly. I've been saying it too. If they allow them to get away with it then they'll keep doing it. Same with anything in life.
Yes, I been saying that for a while too, paid per game. Not guaranteed
Taking away the physical part doesn't mean noD.Why does every team have 5 players chucking up 3s all game every game. Silver needs to fix this.
I get Adam Silver's reason to increase scoring but how many fans actually asked for it? What is a competitive game without defenses being able to use their strengths? My favorite thing in all of competitive sports is a defensive battle.
My favorite highlights in every sport are defensive plays. That's why it's so hard to watch a full game. Scoring after scoring is boring unless it doesn't happen often. I have to have it on in the background while I'm doing something else.
no fans asked for it. it was his idea, not ours. Hence the highest rated game of all time is still by far game 6 of the 1998 Finals. Silver thought this would make the game even better but it backfired
I always called this NBA now a Arcade Basketball... everybody shooting alongside their opponents without defense in their face. All about money, entertainment and laughs.
I think Adam Silver is being proven wrong by the decline in ratings. Watching whatever the NBA is supposed to be because what I saw in the last game was NOT basketball. I always wondered why Jordan never tried coaching, now I know lol. Imagine going to a KISS concert and you paid 400 bucks for front row and you get there and are told "Hey Gene ya know he's not feeling it tonight so we're throwing in Joe Blow in his place" You'd demand a refund that's what it's like buying tickets to a game you might see superstar vs superstar...but probably not your odds are better winning the jackpot honestly.
exactly!! no one else seems to get that lol. These tickets cost money, we expect to see the stars in the show. Every Suns game I at least check the NBA app to check on our roster. We almost never have all 3 stars out there. Currently is KD out again. Last week it was KD and Beal out. It's really bad...
I saw Ray Allen once saying "we all know what the NBA stands for, No Boys Allowed". Look at the NBA now, even babies that didn t even start crawling are allowed.
I do agree that the problem are the rules. Lots of players are tough, they grew up having to hold up their own, they made it to the NBA (not you Bronny)... So they can definately be tough. But the rules and the salaries that they make, have demolished their mentality. They are not the same any more. They are spoiled and became soft now. And they get paid for potential, without proving anything, which is totally wrong. So I agree with the "play and get paid rule", unless someone is really injured of course, but rest isn t allowed.
I remember last year after the all star, they stopped calling fouls for nothing and made the game immediately much better!!
for sure, the playoffs last year had some signs of defense being allowed without the whistle blowing. That was a little better
Respect you for acknowledging the rules that make basketball "soft"instead of attacking this generation for that it realizing the cause and in the same vein I think you may have reacted to another video defend why the players before look so clunky with their dribbling because in today game they change to traveling rules with the amount of step and stops they are allowed. Player like AI was beginning of those changes and allowing euro steps. So in the same way it unfair for today's player to say they didn't know how play or weren't as talented since they couldnt get away with what today players get away with traveling. And though I would think today players may have more talent it only because we have so much more science and understanding of the human body to get most out of it . A champion player is always a champion
Thank you! Yeah, its too easy to blame the players. I'm a big picture kinda guy so im always looking at what causes these things to happen and in thid case is Silvers rules. Can't play defense without getting called for a foul? Ok then, they won't play tough defense. Full pay for players even if they ditch games? Ok, they load manage. I would've skipped school all the time if i didn't get penalized for it. But i got in trouble so i didn't do it lol. Simple logic really.
@TheRealMindCrime we often don't like changing our opinions and when we have a way thinking and presented with info that counters are beliefs most of rather ignore and be in deny but that fact that you were presented with new info and could say hey this what going so why am I going blame them when the system is the one that is allowing them otherwise they wouldn't do it cause they had play defense. Still good for being open and I didn't think about that until I heard about it in more details
Bring Back Hand checking at least
that's a good start
The game is so much easier still can't beat Jordan stats.
hahaha that's what's so hilarious
Silver basically arguing that AI art is better than classics. Yeah no dude
lol yes
Some would argue the players might be aslo soft looking due to all of the load managing and injuries.
well, they are soft. The current game made them this way. Load managing and no defense and crazy pay levels. Same goes for spoiling a child. They will end up soft and entitled because their parents made life that way for them
I think what you are trying to say is that these load management is taking their bodies out of condition due to inconsistent load thus making them more prone to injuries and the cycle goes on. Whereas players of old were grinding out as much as they could and had their bodies used to all those banging and became more resistant to injuries.
No player is unique anymore, everybody plays the same. For example when Dwight Howard used to play you know it's Dwight Howard. Now nobody has a go to move, nobody plays with a purpose. That is the problem
yup, the staff is doing this on purpose based on the analytics sadly.
The rules play a significant role in this, and it’s a fact that when referees officiate as they did in the 90s, defenders are able to defend more effectively. They would undoubtedly adjust to a different set of rules.
On the other hand, the current rest periods are excessive because the rules are much softer, so in my opinion, players should need less rest than they did in the past. That’s why they seem softer nowadays. Also, I refuse to believe that players are genuinely forced to take rest periods without having a say in the matter, regardless of what is claimed in the media that are teams that do that to preserve their investment on the players!
About anything else talked in the video I believe is a huge flaw in the rules!
Adam Silver needs to decide who he's serving. Is it the viewers or the players?
Reggie ain't dropping 45 😂
I had been watching basketball since I was 8 years old.. now I'm 44 and it's just not interesting anymore. The game is a shell of itself.
Now, I have a young son and wanted to at least expose him to my love of the NBA, but I feel that I (like many people) were stripped of that opportunity.
Rules don't dictate hustle and accountability...🤔
It doesn't but it directly impacts how physical and intense they can play without getting fouled out in the first quarter.
Love the reaction as always bro. Can you also check out a video called "Charles Barkley accuses LeBron James of CHEATING" from Dark Black Times. Ready for your reaction.
LEBRON learned how to make moving screen at 3!! y old. Thats why he is better then previous!
lol
4:15 I disagree and I think the players are a product of their upbringing in America which is softer now. With participation trophies, everyone is special, safe space mentality American athletes aren’t what they were mentally or physically. That’s why players born outside this country are dominating imo
I want to see physical basketball again. I'm sick of seeing 3 dribbles over half court and then launching a three. I want to see 90 to 82 point games. Not 132 to 122 point games. I want defense back.
same here. Chucking 3s play after play has made the game so boring now
The problem with the league is Adam Silver....he's gotta go. As long as he's in charge the NBA will suck.
agreed. he's the head of the snake
Adam Silver is not a basketball fan. This guy should do the game a service and kick rocks.
lol
(youtuber name Forgotten Player Profiles) Kevin Johnson: Why isn’t this Phoenix Suns Legend in the HALL OF FAME? | FPP 31:34mins his history basketball career high and low
or (Stunted Growth) How Is KEVIN JOHNSON Not In The HOF! Was It These Allegations? Stunted Growth 11:31mins video explains why he not HOF it well breaks your hart
I know you a fan of his thought it time of you making of video of your childhood underrated player
good call! I love KJ and the FPP channel
He said, "Too physical"?!?!! This fool hates basketball! How did he even ascend? Dancing with the Stars has more physicality than modern NBA! That's a freaking sin!!!
I think he put a spell on David Stern since silver is Voltimort and all lol
I think the statement of letting players lower chances to injury is misleading. Adam want the game to be like WWE showdown, so many similar games theses days. The past players have to give on court adjustment to adopt to different situations. I think is this factor change that make game less competitive but not rules that greatly changes. U see in Lakers game, if their hedges failed serval time, they do not change, and just let the game be blown out. That is the thing that Adam Silver brought to NBA and totally unacceptable.
plus injuries are happening more frequently than ever now so this is obviously not working. It made sense but it didn't work so it's time to change it back
@@TheRealMindCrime Should start with allowing the real double team be back. And more strict on dribbling rules. Then the paces would be down. Most of the players are unable to handle the ball without carrying.
Just because the rules are soft and pathetic. Doesn't mean every team plays exactly the same way. Chuck up 3s isn't basketball. What do NBA coaches do today?
Coaches just apply the analytics now and pray they don't get fired lol
I’d give Reggie 40.
The basic rules of the game make it basketball. If you don't enforce those you aren't playing the same game. Today's NBA is unwatchable. Most teams don't even play team basketball.
agreed
Not in totality when you say that “the players are a product of the rules”. “The players are a product of an entitlement era” more like it. MJ, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Magic Bird, Dr J, Kareem, etc., they grewup in a time where family values and simplistic thinking towards what people think about them and their egos were more humble and their humility was strong. World validation today is all these dudes think about. And if they don’t get it, they whine and cry. It is a softer era not just from a “RULE” standpoint. But more from a “CHARACTER” standpoint. Not even a question about it…..
I see what youre saying but it starts with the rules. If I wouldn't get in trouble for ditching high school back in the day then I would've done it a lot more than I did. But I got in trouble and also had to figure out how to make up the work. Same with jobs, don't show up? Don't get paid. The NBA rules now allow them to ditch work whenever and still make their crazy money in full, no penalty, no make up work, money in full. Crime levels would go up in the USA if there was no longer any law enforcement. The players have become soft and entitled over time as these current rules and pay levels have spoiled them rotton.
I feel that it's 2 parts, one its the players and the other is the rules. The players should be playing the game the same way that want to be remember and judged. Instead it seems that players are upselling the rules and complaining about tacky fouls then being defensive about the optics of the league. Jordan didn't whine on the court over every little foul, he rose above. With Coaching, I feel that the coaches today are also too soft because the office are more willing to defend and fight for the player over the coach. Few coaches today have the character to demand respect.
Your channel is such a great curated playlist of good basketball content.
I'm gonna make an effort to always at least give the original video a like. 👍
Hey thank you! That really does help
A generation of AAU kids never learned to play the game.
You are one of few that I heard that you have a finacial criris there in the US
Things are going to be rough the next years
Hold on there
Our eyes minds and prayers are with you there
There is so much unjustice and fruad this days
Most people here don't understand what is going on but we've met the criteria for a recession for 2 years now and going. The media and politicians don't acknowledge it so most people here don't understand why everyone is broke. Thank you, i believe in a few years things will be better and i know the USA is not the only place with financial problems these days. I wish everyone luck these next few years. Thank you 🙏
@TheRealMindCrime Thank you
Have a nice day
And keep Le Balko at check 😉❤️🇬🇷🇺🇸
@TheRealMindCrime For some reason I like you
Maybe you are a good man
I dont want to be pessimistic
But something very bad is coming
Take care yourself and your family
And dont trust the media neithrer your New elected president
Adam Silver, the original Fembot, no doubt...It's also the players fault in part too, they exploit the softness, don't kid yourself- That point is proven with players like Embid, taking advantage of the system, they are also accountable for the demise...The flop is a prime example, and it;s not only Lebone that does it, even if he is the king of the flop (and illegal, moving screen)... Some players choose to do it...Also, not playing back to backs proves some of the players are soft by choice-Too much of a good thing is rarely the answer to anything, especially more dunks and three's..."Load management" WTF even is that...How ridiculous that it even exists , I'm gonna tell my boss i need to load manage on the construction site, and can't work back to back days...What a JOKE!!
Make a dunk worth 3 points...Maybe... That will make some excitement at the rim, and take away all the bs jack ups from the 3 line...KG is so real, love that guy!! Timmy Hardaway, OG is fk, total baller right there, so real- Charles being Charles: RESPECT
I hate the fact that nobody can sneak a picture of LebRun his always see the camera head ass.
Yes the rules are soft but the pose have made the players soft one goes hand in hand with the others
Do You think that when Lebron retires, they are gonna bring hand checking back?
probably sadly.....ugh
Is the term "more talented" given to today's players strictly because they shoot more 3 pointers? What else are they really doing that's "better"? Traveling, flopping, carrying, illegal screens, load managing.... The excessive 3 point shooting makes for a boring game because it limits creativity and all the teams look the same. That's bad enough, but on top of that players can't or won't play within the basic rules of basketball. If they don't play without constantly committing violations, how can they be labeled more talented?
Did you see the lakers won because Lebron sat out lol
impeach silver!! they need someone that actually loves the game to bring it back to it's former glory. but that's not the reality we live in these days.
Adam Silver ruined NBA basketball. Point blank. Adam Silver is more concerned about pushing social agendas and pleasing out of their prime athletes, than focusing on pleasing the paying customer, the fans.
exactly!!! he should be listening to the customers. NBA hasn't made any money off me in years now. I find other method to watch the games and refuse to pay them while the product is this bad. Only time they make money from me is when they claim one of my videos lol. When the product is good again, I'll buy the League Pass again because it's really convenient
The main issue is the players don`t play all the games that they are supposed to play in. Nowadays the average player plays around 65 games and it`s too much to ask the players to play in 70 games. When there is no money or glory on the line the players turn the All-Star game into a 2hour crapfest that is almost painful to watch. When your top star players don`t play or don`t play at all fans will rather watch something else than this garbage.
This style of play is even poisoning pickup basketball everyone just chucking 3s no defense and the moving screens my God. If you come to me setting a moving screen I’m running through your chest
Micheal Jordan is a billionaire w 6 rings. What does he have to be bitter or jealous abt? The truth stings.
Imagine if Jordan load managed allowed his starem to go to his head the league would not be wat it is today there wouldn't be other stars with shoe deals there wouldn't be the expansion to international global explosion becuz like now no one would watch there would be no commercials sometimes I dream that he is like Mike if I could be like Mike the goat the king of kings the Emperor the NBA will never be at that height again as far as ratings and viewership
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soft commissioner soft rules, I remember seeing 3D Adam Silver in NBA Live before he was calling the 2nd rd draft pick of the career mode, skinny af I actually thought he was gay LMAO
Nothing but excuses from E.T. Silver. Stop softening the rules. Enforce the rules. Don't let players carry the ball. Call travelling. Call double dribbles. And WTF is this 'gather step' crap? It's called TRAVELLING.
You want to keep the 3 pt. line? Fine, but the travelling that virtually all the players commit when they do those step-back shots MUST BE CALLED. Harden wasn't wrong for doing what he did. He read the soft rule book, made adjustments and blew up scoring, because he was allowed to travel on step-back threes. Just call the rule violations, is that so goddam hard to do? Really?
Reggie is funny. The currently acclaimed 'best shooter ever' Steph Curry, doesn't seem to be averaging 45 or even 35. So, I highly doubt Reggie would. MJ on the other hand, yeah, he would score whatever it took to win.
yeah, MJ could've averaged 40ppg in the 90s if he cared about points vs winning. So now? He'd get how ever many he wanted lol
About 99.9% of the time I agree with your assessment of the game today but not here!! The rules are soft yes, but so are today's players!!! The rules don't make you flop around whining and throwing titty tantrums like a kid who doesn't get their way!!! This generation of basketball players are absolutely 100% SOFT AF and that's just a fact!!! Never in my 47 years of life have I played a pick up game at the park and had to deal with the crying about fouls crap like this generation does!!! SOFT