That Nisi (the VND that comes with the G5 matte box), screwed me on an interview I did with a climate scientist last year. I couldn't fix it in post. And I bought the Nisi, paid $600 for the kit, and thought I must be safe. Nope! Thanks for clarifying this!
@@Josh_Sattin They're all hippies living in vans...Paella on the beach, one-wheels...etc. The only filters they're interested in are for bongs. Watch out, they'll steal the screens out of your faucets.
Really interesting findings... I think I need to get an IR cut filter then as I was running into an issue with a Freewell ND on a Nikon whereas I wasn't seeing it on a Sony... and am now curious if that was the problem. Thanks for covering this topic!
Now i know why I’ve never been bothered with IR pollution on my OG Komodo while people mention it here and there. I used Moment VNDs even without knowing it cuts IR 🤷🏻♂️ Thank you 👍
This video is fantastic. What con you suggest me for my gears. I shot with blackmagic and sigma (18-35/50-100) + nisi VND. The magenta shift is terrible. do you think it's better to buy the nisi ir filter or change the brand?
I just saw your vnd comparison video and the uneven light transmission is exactly what I just experienced! I film outdoors and liked how the colors were even but when I edited I saw the exact same thing with the sky looking darker in spots and I couldn’t fixed it. I can still return this filter to Amazon. Do you have a filter that you recommend? I do like using 1-5 stops since it comes in handy when filming indoors (lumix vlog) The freewell v2 seems cool but I can’t use it indoors with it being a 3-7 stop and I haven’t tested it yet outdoors. Any suggestions please??
I haven't used the Freewell filters. Besides rear mount ND filter adapters I have been exclusively using the Nisi True Color VND filters for a while now because they had the least amount of color shift (when not used on cameras with IR issues). I got in the practice of maximizing the VND and then backing it off a touch to get rid of the uneven exposure. No VND is perfect, there are always tradeoffs.
@@Josh_Sattin I’ll try that next time! On the nisi I did crank it to 5 stops and hardly touched the aperture so next time I’ll step down and not crank the nisi to 5 stops
@@Josh_Sattinhey man wanted to thank you again for recommending the NiSi vnd. So I got the 1-5 stop and I added the 4 stop nd. So now,if I need 5 stops I’ll crank to 1 stop on the vnd and just add the 4 stop filter on top. Even exposure on my skies and I can keep that even exposure all the way to 8 stops. Once I hit 9 stops the sky exposure isn’t even again because it’s using the 5+4. Hope that makes sense and that solves my sky uneven exposure problem. Thanks man!
Have you done the update to your X-H2s yet? They added a few things for video. 1. Touch to track 2. Red indicator box on the screen with sound confirmation.
@@Josh_Sattin yeah I'm on my way home . I can't wait to test it out and put it through it's paces . I know in some aspects Fuji is behind the other big brands but, after shooting with them for the last 2-3 years I feel like I'm in it for the long haul. 🤣 Thanks for your reply.
Hi Josh. Interesting video! Do you know if this is specific to the sensor in the Xh2s or does it happen in xh2 for example. Just wondering. Thanks for the great work!
So I just tested the NISI true color with a X-T4 and it was the same issue, made a video that is in my channel. Not happy with NISI purchase, and not truly convinced with NISI IR cut as a solution (not perfect), nevertheless I'm glad that didn't use it in paid job, so thanks to Josh Sattin for sharing this. Extra note: With the 5 to 9 stops NISI overlay filter the issue is not visible.
@@Josh_Sattin I could see myself sticking to the nisi for indoor shoots but outdoors what do you recommend? Also, I shoot on an eva1 and I find it harder to dial in exposure with its nds. Is it a sin or pointless to slap a vnd on my lens and bypass the eva1 nds??
@@ChrisFlores22 As I said, I personally use the Nisi filters for all of my ND needs. If you aren't happy with the internal NDs then use what you like or what makes sense.
@@Josh_Sattin Hmm, the IR is always there form the sun, so it needs time to accumulate in the shadows I guess. Any practical photo is too quick to show it, unless using an ND. I'm really curious to try some experiments, but then I need an IR block filter :-) I have an ND, I don't know know well it blocks IR, I need to test it. IR would only show under sunlit photos or videos.
It’s not about shutter speed. As I explain in the video it’s about when you block visible light with the ND filter the ratio of IR to visible light goes up and that’s when it shows up.
@@Josh_Sattin I see what you’re saying now! The ND filter (some of them) blocks visible, but not IR, thereby increasing the proportion of IR and contaminating the image.
I have the exact same VND from NISI, I'm going to test it in a X-T4. This is really something new for me, now that I see it for sure I'm not going to stop seeing it, 😵💫😂😂, jus because of this I'm going to unsubscribe your channel, damn... 🤣
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That Nisi (the VND that comes with the G5 matte box), screwed me on an interview I did with a climate scientist last year. I couldn't fix it in post. And I bought the Nisi, paid $600 for the kit, and thought I must be safe. Nope! Thanks for clarifying this!
You're welcome. Oh man! So sorry to hear. I love my Nisi filters, but I just can't use them on certain cameras.
this is such a fascinating video - i def think you're on to something in terms of color fidelity and visible light.
thanks for sharing your findings!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
This was super helpful because I was noticing the same thing. Thanks for this test
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Great findings man, interesting it hasn’t really been brought up
Thanks Geoff! Yeah I was surprised I hadn't heard about this. Maybe not enough Fuji video people out there?
@@Josh_Sattin They're all hippies living in vans...Paella on the beach, one-wheels...etc. The only filters they're interested in are for bongs. Watch out, they'll steal the screens out of your faucets.
thank you for your videos
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Really interesting findings... I think I need to get an IR cut filter then as I was running into an issue with a Freewell ND on a Nikon whereas I wasn't seeing it on a Sony... and am now curious if that was the problem.
Thanks for covering this topic!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
This video was very interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
Good info!
Thanks!
Now i know why I’ve never been bothered with IR pollution on my OG Komodo while people mention it here and there. I used Moment VNDs even without knowing it cuts IR 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you 👍
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
This is interesting. I haven't seen any talk about IR Pollution with the Fuji. I'm thinking that maybe it's because of the X-Trans sensor.
This video is fantastic. What con you suggest me for my gears. I shot with blackmagic and sigma (18-35/50-100) + nisi VND. The magenta shift is terrible. do you think it's better to buy the nisi ir filter or change the brand?
I just saw your vnd comparison video and the uneven light transmission is exactly what I just experienced! I film outdoors and liked how the colors were even but when I edited I saw the exact same thing with the sky looking darker in spots and I couldn’t fixed it. I can still return this filter to Amazon. Do you have a filter that you recommend? I do like using 1-5 stops since it comes in handy when filming indoors (lumix vlog)
The freewell v2 seems cool but I can’t use it indoors with it being a 3-7 stop and I haven’t tested it yet outdoors. Any suggestions please??
I haven't used the Freewell filters. Besides rear mount ND filter adapters I have been exclusively using the Nisi True Color VND filters for a while now because they had the least amount of color shift (when not used on cameras with IR issues). I got in the practice of maximizing the VND and then backing it off a touch to get rid of the uneven exposure. No VND is perfect, there are always tradeoffs.
@@Josh_Sattin I’ll try that next time! On the nisi I did crank it to 5 stops and hardly touched the aperture so next time I’ll step down and not crank the nisi to 5 stops
@@Josh_Sattinhey man wanted to thank you again for recommending the NiSi vnd. So I got the 1-5 stop and I added the 4 stop nd. So now,if I need 5 stops I’ll crank to 1 stop on the vnd and just add the 4 stop filter on top. Even exposure on my skies and I can keep that even exposure all the way to 8 stops. Once I hit 9 stops the sky exposure isn’t even again because it’s using the 5+4. Hope that makes sense and that solves my sky uneven exposure problem. Thanks man!
Never seen this on my xh2s…. I use a nisi vario nano pro 1-5 stop, tiffen , and a B+W variable ND for different lenses.
Have you done the update to your X-H2s yet? They added a few things for video. 1. Touch to track 2. Red indicator box on the screen with sound confirmation.
Yes! I updated it yesterday but haven't had too much time to play with it yet. Very happy to see the touch tracking AF!
@@Josh_Sattin yeah I'm on my way home . I can't wait to test it out and put it through it's paces . I know in some aspects Fuji is behind the other big brands but, after shooting with them for the last 2-3 years I feel like I'm in it for the long haul. 🤣 Thanks for your reply.
All my filters as of lately have been from PolarPro... wondering if Fujifilm's 1st party lenses may be designed to combat this issue???
Hi Josh. Interesting video! Do you know if this is specific to the sensor in the Xh2s or does it happen in xh2 for example. Just wondering. Thanks for the great work!
You're welcome. Unfortunately I have not used a XH2 before. I did see some people in the comments here talking about other Fuji cameras though.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks! And thanks for bringing this up. Really interesting and something to be aware of. Much appreciated!
@@blakeanncook7375 You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
Ahhh, so that’s why all my prior Fuji footage had a “magenta shift”. I had no idea - thx for sharing!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Only with nd if I understand correctly.
Is there an IR cut filter on other Canon cameras or just the cinema line ones?
I haven't test this on every Canon camera, but I've never experienced IR pollution on any camera that I've ever used.
8:16 it's not that they didn't have enough IR filtration to call them IR nd, it's plain and simple, they didn't think about it either like 95% of us.
So I just tested the NISI true color with a X-T4 and it was the same issue, made a video that is in my channel. Not happy with NISI purchase, and not truly convinced with NISI IR cut as a solution (not perfect), nevertheless I'm glad that didn't use it in paid job, so thanks to Josh Sattin for sharing this. Extra note: With the 5 to 9 stops NISI overlay filter the issue is not visible.
I'm not surprised it showed up on the X-T4 as well. That's interesting about the 5-9 stop overlay filter. I don't have that to test it out.
... a couple weeks ago I came across a channel mentioning that Sony's Burano and its built-in ND caused noticeable IR pollution.
Hi does the IR pollution on the XH2S show up in stills as well?
I haven't tested it, but probably only if you use a ND filter.
Would have loved to see it on the s1h but I’m guessing you sold it? lol
Yeah I sold it. I didn't remember seeing any IR pollution when I tested the S1H. I was definitely using the Nisi VND filter.
@@Josh_Sattin I could see myself sticking to the nisi for indoor shoots but outdoors what do you recommend? Also, I shoot on an eva1 and I find it harder to dial in exposure with its nds. Is it a sin or pointless to slap a vnd on my lens and bypass the eva1 nds??
@@ChrisFlores22 As I said, I personally use the Nisi filters for all of my ND needs. If you aren't happy with the internal NDs then use what you like or what makes sense.
@@Josh_Sattin appreciate the help and tips man! Love your nerdy stuff videos!
@@ChrisFlores22 You're welcome. Thanks for checking out the videos!
This makes me wonder about how this affects taking still photos with the X-H2S
It shouldn't unless you are using a ND filter.
@@Josh_Sattin Hmm, the IR is always there form the sun, so it needs time to accumulate in the shadows I guess. Any practical photo is too quick to show it, unless using an ND. I'm really curious to try some experiments, but then I need an IR block filter :-) I have an ND, I don't know know well it blocks IR, I need to test it. IR would only show under sunlit photos or videos.
It’s not about shutter speed. As I explain in the video it’s about when you block visible light with the ND filter the ratio of IR to visible light goes up and that’s when it shows up.
@@Josh_Sattin I see what you’re saying now! The ND filter (some of them) blocks visible, but not IR, thereby increasing the proportion of IR and contaminating the image.
I have the exact same VND from NISI, I'm going to test it in a X-T4. This is really something new for me, now that I see it for sure I'm not going to stop seeing it, 😵💫😂😂, jus because of this I'm going to unsubscribe your channel, damn... 🤣
That's a bummer. Not really "true color", right? That's why I went with Haida's CPL/VND. 3-7 stops and minimal color cast. And way cheaper.
Do you see any issues with Haida relating IR pollutions with Fuji cameras? @matheussp13
thanks Sony. I used 12800.
of course, it's not BAYERN sensor!!!! it's not the camera fault! no it doesn't suffer for ir pollution, it's the way NISI is calibrated