I can already see someone on reddit complaining about losing waver by not reading the requirements and make it a big deal that the whole community laughs at it. Not one but many people and a whole chain is made about how "hard it was to get a bond leveled or bond 5"
@@kyshowman6847 I get bond 10 by accident sometimes. But yeah I can see it now Low IQ player:oh boy free waver. I did it I won the game(turns it off) time to go on reddit. (A few weeks later) Low IQ player: guess I'll finnaly raise my wavers level and bond up now.....what? Where is my waver(goes to reddit) Post: hey I think my account was hacked. I got the SSr ticket waver and suddenly this morning he was gone. Not sure what happened First reply:did you read the instructions on how to make him permeant? Low IQ player:(brain malfunctioning) read?
@@lurker_san416 and don't forget the one star reviews. Comment here again if I get one right. "Genshin impact is better. They let us farm early. One star" "The game erased my waver. Such a bad game because it makes ssr units temporary. One star" "I will never play this game again. I just got waver and for some reason he isn't on my account again. This community is so toxic as they tell me to "read the instructions" and "haha get rekted". I quit. I hate this game. One star" "Just like my welfare servants. Waver is gone. Guess that's why fgo is a dying game. They only let you play with characters for a week and then remove them. 0/10 never will play again"
@@Jetsetradio I had the same thought as well, but then I just realized that Jeanne and Mash Fulfill the role better than Ganesha could. The two fit the same role, but Jeanne is just objectively better IMO. That's why my only choices that was Okky, got swapped as I got her this new year, now am gunning for Drake with Nightingale second and Ganesha third.
@@MuhammadKharismawan iirc, the only advantage is moon cancer star weight is low, whereas ruler is high, which can complicate matters if your dps doesn't have good star weight/star gather in their kit.
I love seeing these type of list videos on the waver ticket jut to reinforce myself that im going to pick Nightingale just cus she the only Sawashiro servant im missing
I didn't know she was Sawashiro. I still rolled for her in the past, and didn't get her, and it wouldn't change my decision this time. But I will definitely consider that in the future.
As an side note to video, Tamamo is a favorable pick for another reason, if one has an Account filled with high quality Arts Loopers like Spishtar or Sitonai: she effectively functions as 'Arts Insurance' for the Castoria Meta. Or in other words, the foxy lady can serve as your main enabler for Arts Looping if you can't get the sword fairy or have all the luck of thrice cursed crook with bad karma with your pulls. Together with Paracelsus (or Nero Bride, for some) and virtually any 50% CE (Especially Arts ones like Painting Summer, or the likes of Magical Sapphire) you have the makings of a more than half-way decent Arts comp with a Support Castoria and your preferred looper. Sure, you have to use a plugsuit to make it happen with most Loopers, and spread out the Mats to kit out two Casters, but it's either that or not having all an easy in to the Arts Meta, so you work with what you got. In general I say Waver is still the stronger pick that Tamamo for accounts without access to either, but if a given account has a heavy hitting Arts AoE Servant like NP2+ Fionn, Grailed Jason/Salari/Gong, or the likes of Spishtar and Summer Musashi then it maybe a more worthwhile to get Tamamo now and hope/pray you can bag another 50% NP support later (or save your 2nd *5 Ticket for Waver if the fates _really_ have it out for you).
can you help me to decide, i dont have tamamo either waver but i have jealter np1 and kiara np2 both lv 100 and 10 10 10 should i take tamamo for looping with castoria support friends or waver for waver jalter merlin team (i have nightgale 10 10 10 lv 100 too for support that team) im very in doubt what to take note a side i will roll for tamamo vitch (i will save nearly 2k saints quartz for her rn im at 500 without doing lostbell 1,2,3,4,5)
@@user-ky1nx8sl6z First: Who do you like better? If you like playing around with Jalter enough , then pick whomever supports her best. If you like farming with Kiara, then pick Tamamo and start grinding up a Paraclesus. Second: do you hate farming, or find your current set-ups lacking? If so, pick Tamamo in that case, as she + Paraclesus + Support Castoria can enable either your Kiara to clear Calvary or a sufficiently powerful GONG to clear everything else with minimal CE investment. Waver is useful, but if you got the Arts DPS for farming like Kiara and someone else to take care of Knight enemies you don't really _need_ him to succeed. Third: Are you willing to wait awhile? Because if so you can just choose whomever you feel is best for you in the first ticket, and then snag the other choice in the 2nd SSR next year. That, and since you've said that you're saving up for Vitch (Nice choice!) you can do without a Waver until then if you're that confidant and patient you'll get her. Heck, pick up Waver with her too, since she can loop with him + other charge supports depending on what CEs you got and it's timely too.
@@anonjohn9760 well i think i will pick up tamamo so because i have paraclesus and for knight class i can use archer artoria summer and next year ill pick up waver, one last thing since i see you are a man of culture, joke a side you are really informated on this game more than me cuz i took 1 year of break do you think vitch is more a burster support or a buster dps and is better to try np 2 with her rather that roll only one time? because after her i will roll for sure all sq i have for morgan too
As an Arjuna fan it does kinda hurt to know that Arjuna isn't the hottest pick here (even after his buff coming soon), but it's also completely understandable too. If you're a new account just straight up go for the best picks (mainly Waver), having an easier time in this game is a lot more preferable than trying to struggle with your favorite character, you can still bide your time and get them eventually on a focus while still having a good backbone to most comps rather than having someone (be it Arjuna or others in the lower end of this tier list) that needs specific supports to them and doesn't shine in a lot of situations.
@@astroboy6203 he's still excellent once you have a fair share of good supports. Granted this is the case with most units, but he can shine very brightly in CQs or attrition fights, especially since he never has to worry about ailments.
I mean if a person is using Arjuna, they'd also use Double Merlin as support so the 1 turn duration of his buff won't really matter... and his second skill effects simply beats Garden of Avalon in every single effect after rank up
@@sanjeevsinghrajput5593 I generally prefer Tamamo+Merlin, that way the party's CDs are a lot less and Arjuna's abundance of Arts cards are a lot meatier when hitting, it makes a huge difference with her buffs. Same can be said for a spare few just running Tamamo and Merlin though, especially in longer fights, they're just good together (at least before Castoria arrives and changes everything).
I was initially going to pick Brad or Karna, and while having my first SSR AOE Lancer would be nice, Parvati and Valks fill up that farming role nicely. Looks like Drake is gonna be my pick due to lack of a SSR AOE Rider. Thanks for helping me decide Fino, great video.
Achilles is better due to being capable of looping by himself even when entirely on his own honestly, why worry about Double Koyanskaya when we don't have that yet.
@@Cryocynical576 not to mention another SSR ticket where you can get Drake is gonna be out at the EXACT time when Vitch releases. so yeah,I recommend Achilles more as well!
@@yappidyyap Great, Carrot it is! Granted, Achilles was my next Rider option before the analysis and already having good quick supports really solidify the pick.
Thank you for opening my eyes to the Chen Gong System! Even with just using double Nero Bride instead of Castoria, Gong loops EVERYTHING. I do have to give Merciless One to my Wave 1 sacrifice (Tamamo) to compensate for Reines's current 30% charge in Wave 2, but Skadi works fine for Wave 3. Waver is going to immediately replace Reines so I can drop Merciless One. I was even able to make a lower powered version that doesn't require any 50% chargers (MLB IE, Tamamo, Nero Bride x2, Reines, Paracelsus with Merciless One). Chen Gong is just amazing and he's solved all of my farming woes.
Best you pick imo : 1. Waver (if you don't have one) 2. Tamamo no mae (if you don't have one) 3. Jeanne (if you don't have ruler class) After that i think you just need pick someone with good damage like Arthuria, Ozy, Jack, etc The reason why 1 & 2 pick first because they servant who already max potential without any copies. The reason number too just if you don't have ruler class.
Okky is a good pick simply because she's a unique tertiary buffer for a buster/quick team IMO, for someone who doesn't have Merlin she's a big blessing when story limit you character choice, I also have MLB KScope so I can get her going pretty fast, her problem is really, like Skadi, neither snowball their NP because their battery is only targetable
Just borrow merlin pepega. It's not even that hard, since sei, penth, Odysseus, Apoc, Erice, Shibata, Fuuma are all quests that are easy/disadvantage Osaka. They also can be cleared by a variety of better options that f2ps can use, like friend merlin. She's not by any means a good pick lol. You can't say "Buster/Quick/Arts" teams, when that's not even how to approach cqs. It's to plan around the node, not make some random card type matching stuff.
@@belphy205 As a fellow "Jeanne was my first my 5*" gang, I can relate to this. The problem with me was the game didn't give me any good DPS for nearly 2 years, and she was my only 5* for a year (my second 5* was Da Vinci Caster). So I tackled all of the hard stages with Mash + Jeanne + Medea Lily. It took more than 60 turns for the harder stages lol.
@@justawanderingoldman7699 I am impressed that is some dedication. I got lucky and got Jalter and Raikou soon after. So I was blitzing though story till I hit the brick wall known as Camalot.
7:31 I was originally going to get Waver for 50 NP charge then I got Reines where she has same role as her brother so I just need to patient about it, then my next target is Osakabehime because I actually like her gameplay but I got spook by her during the Saber Wars 2 Event, and so destiny provides me a way to get Ganesha with the SSR Ticket.
I'd say still go for Waver. There's a lot of interesting stuff you get access to by having two 50% chargers (3 with outside support). Plus Waver can function as a crit support with his first skill and a star dump CE equipped, something that Reines can't do because she has no crit damage amplifier (and higher star weight to steal more stars too).
@@Jack_Rakan Don't worry I already picked Waver for my 2 month JP account so I know what you mean. But seriously I am long time player so I know how Waver works but I am not even a 3 turn farmer player so having only one 50 NP charge Character is enough for me and since my NA account is already established that I just picked a character that I wanted to get.
@@barneypurple3435 In that case since your account is already established, go ahead and pick Jinako. For me, my pick is Jeanne because I wanted her for so long, but if I had gotten her by now, my second in line would have been Okki.
Three-plus years of low-to-mid-range whaling and I'm still yet to be spooked by Tamamo Caster (Cat on more than one occasion, but not Caster). She still has value even with Castoria, so she'll be my first choice. Though NP2 Artoria Prime was very tempting.
since I have all of the non-limited support units I was going to go for saber, but Artoria wants like 180+ proof of heroes (I only have like 10), next on my list was Karna but he wants like 216 proof of heroes, so it came down to just picking a unit that I want but wouldn't roll for and on the top of that list was Europa so I guess she is my choice.
Finally bit the bullet and started playing from scratch yesterday, thanks for the advice, and pulled a Cu alter, Bathory, and Nero on 10 summon tickets today. The luck.
I've been mulling over my options and narrowed it down to NP2 Ozymandias, NP2 Enkidu, or just Ganesha as a new servant. It's tempting to get the boost in power from NP1>2 but it's conflicting with event servants being in my roster at NP5 with decent skill levels.
I already got the top tiers, Artoria, Altera, Enkidu, Karna(spooked me on Musashi yesterday), Achilles, Ozy, and Vlad. This leaves my choices to Mordred, Jack, Batty and Jinako. I have plenty of Sabers that can take Mo's place, Kama at NP2, and before I forget..I got Iskander and Odysseus, as well as an NP4 Helena. So yeah, Batty is actually my best choice.
I really don't agree with Oki placement, obviously she isn't Merlin or Skadi, but her kit does have some really interesting buff (party wide crit, removing buff, a battery, quick and buster buff), plus she can be really good as a last man or solo servant. She isn't a priority but she definitely is way more useful than someone like Sherazade or Orion.
My take, take whatever you like. If thats covered go for Waver If thats covered go for artoria either np1 or any np up if you re set to save for Koyanskaya of light.
I'm new to this game. I know waver is a stupidly op support just from all the meme's alone. I know if I don't get him now, it will bite me in the ass later, and I probably won't get him for a very very long time. Knowing all this still didn't stop me from picking Artoria cause I'm a artoria-stan lol
I’m debating between Jean and Ozy. I don’t have a 5 star ST Rider and already have Amakusa and Mothman for 5 Star Rulers….but Jean is a good Waifu. Tough decision
Go with your heart first, and it shouldn't lead you astray. In terms of 'bang for your buck' , though, Ozy is better, simply because his kit allows him to be useful in all kinds of scenarios (and therefore you build Bond with him faster and more optimally) as opposed to Jeanne's 'Tank and Pray until it is _done_ ' method of dealing with fights.
jean spooked me back when i started playing a year ago, and boy im glad she did. with her, CQs and story fights managed to get me up to speed just in time for oniland. and now with olympus, herc in the backline barely sees any action with her keeping the front together.
Reminder that ozy gets a buff sometimes in the future (I forgot the exact date) which makes him hit harder Though if you like stall comps Jeanne can compliment it really well since she's tanky+works really well after all her rank ups, as long as the enemies aren't avenger or zerks Good luck on making the choice, hope you have a great time with whoever you picked
I would say Amakusa and Mothman fulfill different niches than Jeanne so having them doesn’t discount her. Ozymandias does become really strong once he gets his two buffs in the future but he can still be substituted for lower rarity riders if you have them.
Going Orion/Artemis. One benefit of hers is that she's a ST SSR Archer in a field devoid of ST SSR Archers. The others are Squirtoria, who is now only available via GSSR, Moriarty, who is generally considered worse than Arty, and that's it. Plus, she's play well with my 2x grailed Chloe. I hope. But the real reason I'm picking her are Interludes. I'm good in terms of class coverage, so I'm thinking outside of the conventional box.
So this video definitely got me rethinking my pick; I have most of the Servants on the list, so I thought I'd choose Vlad, but didn't factor in his noodle damage at np1... maybe I'll go for an np upgrade on Drake or Ozzy instead >.> Thanks for the info as always, boss!
I've been torn on either Jeanne or Ozymandias for longest time. I like both of their designs, their VAs, and both are waifu/husbando as hell. (plus my only other ST Rider is Ushi...) I'm gonna have to sleep on this one, because I genuinely can't pick between them
if it helps at all, we are getting another SSR ticket with next year's anniversary. So unless you want a particular storylocked servant, you could just wait for the other!
Jeanne is a great wall for stall battles and cq while ozymandias gets better with his np and first skill buff to make him an absolute nuke. I would choose Jeanne as a np 2 Jeanne will make her a juggernaut while np 1 ozymandias is fine as his kit does all the work for him. But either way you can get them both with the SSr ticket and second one.
@@ivanbluecool that's true. plus I'm not too focused on a story locked servant since I have Cu Alter and he's probably the one I would've chosen for the next ticket also I think there is a slight miscommunication. I don't have Jeanne, so it would be NP1 Jeanne for her as well.
@@whydoistillusethissite8626 oh well yeah I meant it as np 0 for both and a possible spook in the future. Jeanne would be better to get now and hope for a spook on both as she'll be a super tank while ozymandias is fine that way. St riders are easy to come by so a good tank would be better overall. But either way. Do what you like as long as they make you happy.
I was initially debating between Artoria and Tamamo, but I'll choose Tamamo because I already have 4 servants with absurd proof requirements for skills (Iskandar, Arthur, Gil, and Musashi)
I was really indecisive and so watched 7 of these videos, can say for certain yours was the best one. Thank you for showing the attack animations of each servant, i don't think anyone else did that.
Ah yes the obligatory "Arjuna bad" reddit opinion, very cool. Dudes actually a very solid soft survival Archer. There's many solos that are right up his ally. But yes, for farming usage he isn't ideal.
>Not much point in picking Anastasia if you're rolling for Castoria and grail Chen Gong My brother, I have already grailed him to 90 and run "The Gong Show" on assassin and berserker nodes with impunity. Arash wave 1. Only gets better in the future, can't wait.
I'm gonna be honest I'd basically swap Xuanzang and Enkidu's places, especially with what Koyanskaya offers. She's literally the only servant in the game with full-turn party-wide debuff immunity - on a pretty good cooldown at that - and her 80% charge is also on a 5t cooldown. Two Koyans, the 20% charge append skill, and the 20% charge mystic code or swapping in Merlin? 3 consecutive beefy NP turns with whatever CE you want. Plus your alternatives for ST casters just really aren't there, especially not on a budget level. Enkidu's great and all, but the clunkiness makes for way less consistency in the niche - especially in a world where Cu Chulainn is literally just about to be buffed to be even tankier and harder-hitting, we're just about to get Lancer Yu who's pretty decent, and even Gareth's getting more to play with.
Forgot one of the crazy buffs on Ozzy's NP: the Cooldown reduction for all skills. Because of his pretty great skills, it guarantees a Challenge quest unit with little downsides.
For me, it’s between Ganesha or Jeanne. I like both of them but I don’t know who to choose for now. I’m probably will choose Jeanne for purely she’s a ruler but Ganesha can be good tank as well. For gameplay purpose, i need st caster but idk man. Too many choices
The thing about Vlad is that hes in a similar position to Dantes pre-Skadi right now. He's an investment. With the advent of Castoria and Append skills his real estate spikes dramatically in my opinion (hes not obscenely broken but he can do beeg numbers) and with the advent of his second np upgrade he *finally* gets proper upgraded scaling on his NP along with an Arts resis debuff. That makes Vlad into a comparable NP spammer like Okita or Nero Bride where he can just keep ramping up with each NP making the next even stronger. In addition to that hes a fairly decent survival berserker between charge drain, defence, and a 2 time guts post Apoc upgrade. (He does lose out to Cu alter tho because PFA). With Mad Enhancement EX and a hybrid deck Vlad can even work in pseudo jank setups with meta and budget buster/arts supports. All that said the thing about Vlad is that he is still a sizeable investment. Put in the effort and he will pay dividends. Mine is fully grailed, lored, np3, and almost fully gold fou'd and he does tremendous work. But you have to be willing to make him a core attacker.
@@philipraphaelw9492 np1 vlad does not hit as hard as youd want him to, I'll say that, especially right now on NA. With his second upgrade he'll hit pretty decent. I'd say Jeanne is the better objective pick, she lets you weather a lot of storms. However if you think you can make Vlad a solid attacker (you dont need to go as far as I did with grails and such, i just like Vlad) then you get a pretty solid near universal attacker that synergises with a fair few meta and sub meta characters. Tamamo and Nero Bride can make him a star even now.
@@ShotgunMcgee666 oke you have convinced me, Vlad it is (my first ssr is nero bride), and i don't have a lot of good ST art np servant, maybe just the welfare (chloe, rioma, bb and kagetora)
Tamamo no Mae has avoided me for too long! Gonna drag that fox back to my Chaldea and get her pumped up for some ridiculous arts memes!!! But other than that, Ozzy and Artoria are ones I'd like too...
I'm a seasoned fgo player and I still think getting a Ascension level 1 and bond level 5 is really difficult if you actually have a life outside of playing the fucking game. Alas, I'll probably pick Mordred and attempt to get her requirements done so I can keep it.
We're getting another fre ssr ticket down the line anyway, so personally I'm picking Tamamo now to have something to work with when Castoria comes out. Sorry Waver, you're gonna have to wait until next time
@@exstee Yeah, that way if Castoria rolls don't go well at least you'll still have Tamamo for the friend support Castoria. Better that than having neither, that'd be crimge
Defaulted to Tam. Already got Waver, Jeanne, Enkidu, Jack and Xuanzang. NP2 AA and NP3 Spishtar so I don't really have any pressing AoE needs. For ST...I got Caesar(NP4 Diarmuid also for some reason), Santera, Cu(Kenshin once DCS?), Xuanzang(maybe Casterdouji once DCS?), Yoshi, Kama, and NP3 Nyalter. Huh. Going off advice, I spent most of my early account resources and rolls on support units. So I'd gotten Waver, Merlin, Skadi already and now Tam via ticket. And in turn I don't really have too many high rarity damage options with a bunch of NP levels behind them, particularly on the ST side...I've been getting by fine, but it does feel kinda weird how much more value investing in supports first has had.
Oh dang, I had Jeanne picked out as my choice to give myself stall utility months ago, but Reddit convinced me to go with Ozymandias out of a mixture of my only gold single target Rider being Sakamoto and Ozymandias' well-timed skill and NP buffs for the new buster meta. For the next ticket, it'll be a tough call between Jeanne, NP 2 Artoria (whom I've already got at 1000 +2000/+2000), and Drake, as my other 5* Rider is Iskandar, who I like but who lacks a battery.
between her own NP and the overcharged buff of a Hans, Europa should have no problem surviving enemy NPs, even without her invincible buffs on sounds like a really interesting build-around for story chapters and CQs, far better than 3 turning with Meta supports in any case
Imma be real, I've been using jinako as generic support for everything from cq's to farming for ages. Definitely not using her for her class or dmg but i still find her pretty useful This does not mean you should ticket her, waver is still the funniest generic support ever made. I just never got why people disliked her as a unit.
Because moon cancer is the worst class in the game followed by the fact that for farming Paracelsus does more than her. She has a better kit than Jeanne but in average both don’t really do that much and with castoria around the corner the need for a tank dwindles
@@amari7782 "unit < castoria" isnt really a productive point though. We all know that much but who would even try to compare the two units? Castoria is definitely the best unit in the game by a disgusting margin so i just don't get why bring it up here? Again, my point has nothing to do with whether the ticket should be used on jinako or whether jinako is meta, but rather "is this unit actually BAD." 15-23 (bond ce/2030) stars per turn, charisma, and the shortest cd targeted invuln in addition to a taunt/self invuln for sacking or surviving nps is honestly enough for a standard account to get value out of. Loops will of course remain meta but this isnt a meta discussion, its about general usability. Paracelsius is only relevant in terms of looping which is probably not why people would use ganesha in the first place tbh Nevertheless, not really worth a huge argument, but youtube just now notified me so i figured id reply
I got jeanne before watchin this video and I'm very happy this vid said I was right, she has taught me how much I love a woman who knows how to pray...
Imo, I wouldn't say Jeanne is a top pick simply because in 3 months, castoria comes out and she does Jeannes job, a charge offensive arts support and the only things that are lost is the small heal and the defensive buff but you gain true invulnerability along with a huge attack buff but if anyone sees this, lemme know if I'm capping or not
Its a mixed bag. On one hand, Castoria allows you to basically ignore 1 attack or np without much repercussion (few exceptions). However, thats the problem, its only 1 hit. Sure, overcharge could help but thats rather outlandish to setup. Jeanne can however help your team survive consecutive attacks/np's. The problem is she lacks the steroids Castoria brings which could mean the fight would last longer and a longer fight means more room for error and ultimately failure. TLDR; Castoria is probably the better pick simply by virtue of being able to end fights quicker. Survivability doesnt matter when the enemy is dead before they can strike after all. So yeah Jeanne in the long run might not be the best pick. Also kind of weird how they haven't buffed her signifcantly whatsoever after having her niche stolen by Castoria.
If you can get her... for a non whale, getting an SSR is up to RNG will. I still remember back then before Skadi came, a lot hyped up by recommending good Quick servants. I somehow managed to get nearly all of those good Quick servants, but I failed to get Skadi... Now all of those Quick servants are for collection purpose only... My point is, saying a Servant is obsolete just because there will be a better servant coming in the future is only a whale's thing. F2P need to grab any kind of way to improve their rooster. From my experience of using Jeanne as my only SSR for nearly 2 years, I can say that Jeanne can help even the weakest team to clear harder contents. It will take a lot of turns tho lol. And having both Castoria and Jeanne isn't a bad thing either IMO.
@@freshlymemed5680 “ over charge could help but that’s rather outlandish” In what world? With the amount of over charge buffing servants and Ces combined with options like merlin lanling and reines getting a full no dmg run if solemn defense is the easiest thing in the world
@@amari7782 Don’t forget the Amakusa CE that gives 2 levels of overcharge THREE times if you have it it ain’t hard getting stacks of solemn defense at all lol
finally more fino also this ticket is easy because after getting artoria 4 times on gssr's I just want that 5th one so I can ride that high when we get koyan and oberon
I would actually say that Arjuna is the best of the Archers, his buffs on JP are pretty powerful. However... with all the other options in this GSSR, he's not that high tier unless you love him.
Jinako is actually pretty solid imo. Yeah, her damage isn’t amazing, but she’s easily one of the best tanks in the game. Friend Jinakos helped me out a lot in many boss fights, even on my less developed JP account. If you like her and want to pull her, she can do work. Even before her buff.
I still have no idea who to pick because I'm only missing Napoleon, Europa, and Arjuna, none of which I particularly want, and everyone else I either have at an NP level where another copy doesn't make much of a difference (especially Tam and Jeanne (both somehow NP5)) or have someone else to fill their niche a bit better considering NP levels - the only exception maybe being Vlad
So here's my thoughts on the Archers: you have plenty of strong picks in the lower rarity so patching roster holes isn't that hard of a challenge. Class is super dumb strong so the power gap isn't as large.
Isn’t Arjunas second skill strengthening makes him much better now? He can help farm in comps that aren’t running skadi or castoria and he could be helpful in CQs where his NP and another are needed. I don’t think he’s bottom of the barrel anymore. Especially if you’re talking about future things koyanskaya, it’s worth bringing up Arjunas np charge every run for his party on his second skill
Quite surprised to see Vlad in medium. What with the Arts meta looming over us, I thought he'd be a pretty good pick. Enkidu has received enough buffs that he's borderline busted. The def-down, mana burst and semi-spammable NP can soundly destroy any archer.
It's all Tamamo for me. To this day I still don't have her (only just got Waver by accident last year, even), and the only one reliably on my friend list is Six, but he's not always available, so multi-class fights that I can't think of anything better than trying to win neutral with Vlad or BB fall flat. With my own Tamamo, I'll actually be able to do some of those things when Team Skadi just doesn't work well (like most all CQs).
Okki needs arts buff added and cooldown reduc on np, making her a rainbow crit and sustain focused support. Improve her battery a bit and she'd be in ship-shape.
Im at the stage where I don't follow tier list and just fill in roles im lacking. For example a quick support that gives NP like osaka since i never rolled for skadi
I was immediately thinking of getting a Caster here, especially since I've been wanting a combat caster for awhile. Currently my Casters are Nero, Murasaki, and Merlin. So I think Xuanzang would be my best bet?? Not sure where Nero and Murasaki stand in regards to their DPS in general, but they're multi NP instead of single which is currently what I lack.
"Tamamo might not seem like the sexiest choice with Castoria around the corner" I don't want to talk to anyone who thinks Castoria is sexier than Tamamo.
Part of me wants to do a husbando pick with karna or napoleon, but Ive been playing the game for years and have yet to ever get drake. So I'll probably go for her
@@amari7782 still nice it have since I have everyone on this list but Altera, Napoléon, Karna, Bradamante, Europa, Anastasia, Scheherazade, Osakabehime, Xaing Yu, and Jinako but there servants to have i have equivalents to with equal or higher levels. Unless you have better idea for a grab
@@Devil935 honestly waver or Tamamo since Mordred kinda doesn’t have that much going for her since both her dads beat her out in just about everything she wants to do
@@amari7782 doesn't make sense to get Np 2 Waver like Fino as for Tamamo, an Np 2 would make her a better healer but I feel like I don't lack that in my account
picked Vlad and now he can hit less like a potato now (he was np1 for the longest time, so I needed to upgrade his np to help out with his overall capabilities and I grailed him to level 100) other account picked Arjuna because of 2 reasons: 1) I am kind of sick of np3 Artemis being the only other archer ssr on that account and 2) I have Karna and wanted to reunite the two :)
I had to consult no list. Finally, after all these years, after dozens of rolls, this game was forced to give me Artoria. There's no way in any version of hell I was going to miss that.
i got Tamamo,Merlin,Skadi and Nero Bride so im really keen on picking Waver as someone who has been Waver-less for 3 years. my NP2 Spishtar could easily fill the gaps on loop farming so aside from wanting Bradamante for collecting reasons, i think imma settle on Waver.
Waver is definitely a must-have. At least up until Castoria comes out and possibly beyond, he's easily the most versatile if not completely broken like Castoria, Merlin, or Skadi. The kindest to all victims of the RNG God.
@@dangeorge809 yeah i was considering how i would deal with castoria too coz of f2p reasons. i barely played last year and even these past few months so i have barely saved some quartz. i really regret using about 270+ quartz and 20+ tickets from the very first Bradamante banner coz i lost my motivation after that.
Probably gonna grab Mo-san to finally get non-Shiki out from the AoE Saber slot, tho once Ibuki Douji comes out that slot might get moved away sooner. Still, after playing from near the start, I have been somehow blessed (or cursed) with NP2 Waver and NP2 Tammy on top of like half the good picks already (Jeanne, Achilles, Np2 Orion, Np3 Jack, NP2 Anastasia)...and Np3 Arjuna :/ . Still kinda wish I could've just gotten Osakabe or Jinako since I'm really feeling those Megane vibes but I guess the Hikki Girls just ain't hanging with me no more and I NEED my Saber of Red
Easy choice for me. Jinako and Napoleon are the only 2 from the list that I don’t have and whilst Napoleon’s cool and all he’s kinda meh to me. So Jinako it is.
FOr my take. Most I can agree with or abstain save the following: Jeanne - sadly, nope, she's not that good at all. She's soon to be completely overshadowed by castoria, and even in pre-castoria there is little reason to deploy her nowadays. Her best days are long behind her. I'd give her mid at best. Orion (aka Artemis) - yeah, that's too high for her, which is WAY sad. She's useless! That 3 star goddess will serve you tons better. And there is no buffs on the horizon that will change this. She's just bad. Karna - I think he deserves a mid tier slot. I actually use him a lot, especially compared to your other low tier picks, and even many of the mid tier picks, so think he's more valuable than that. Osaka - While not a huge upgrade, I do think she manages a low tier slot. She's actually got all the pieces to be an excellent support... they just aren't quite right. I would upgrade her mostly because she is very handy in rider heavy battles which wreck your caster supports which at this point are the vast majority of the main supports. Until Koya comes along, which is still over a year out, she's reasonable, if not great. I find myself using her a surprising amount.
AHH, I FORGOT TO PUT MUSIC IN.
Its ok Fino. Means I could focus on your voice and what you're saying. Which is actually quite handy. You have a nice voice as well.
I miss the "Welcome back nerds" in the start of the vids
when's the free ticket?
@@franklinpham7235 today I believe
@@franklinpham7235 tonight, at server reset time (9 PM PDT)
I can already see someone on reddit complaining about losing waver by not reading the requirements and make it a big deal that the whole community laughs at it. Not one but many people and a whole chain is made about how "hard it was to get a bond leveled or bond 5"
Shit, bond 5 is easier than bond 6 as long as you do the weekly farming
@@kyshowman6847 I get bond 10 by accident sometimes.
But yeah I can see it now
Low IQ player:oh boy free waver. I did it I won the game(turns it off) time to go on reddit.
(A few weeks later)
Low IQ player: guess I'll finnaly raise my wavers level and bond up now.....what? Where is my waver(goes to reddit)
Post: hey I think my account was hacked. I got the SSr ticket waver and suddenly this morning he was gone. Not sure what happened
First reply:did you read the instructions on how to make him permeant?
Low IQ player:(brain malfunctioning) read?
Lol I'm already seeing the "they didn't give us enough time or farming statues are hard
@@lurker_san416 and don't forget the one star reviews. Comment here again if I get one right.
"Genshin impact is better. They let us farm early. One star"
"The game erased my waver. Such a bad game because it makes ssr units temporary. One star"
"I will never play this game again. I just got waver and for some reason he isn't on my account again. This community is so toxic as they tell me to "read the instructions" and "haha get rekted". I quit. I hate this game. One star"
"Just like my welfare servants. Waver is gone. Guess that's why fgo is a dying game. They only let you play with characters for a week and then remove them. 0/10 never will play again"
@@ivanbluecoolReminds me of a meme
I love my Waver🙂
Pill time
I love my Waver🙂
Where is my Waver💀
You won't make me stop getting Ganesha with that tier list.
Everyone sleeps on jinako way too much. Thriving Business is an amazing skill and having a tank for a support means they don't shred like paper.
That aoe np gain is enough for me to consider her but i prefer a farmer with quick with xian yu.
@@Jetsetradio I had the same thought as well, but then I just realized that Jeanne and Mash Fulfill the role better than Ganesha could. The two fit the same role, but Jeanne is just objectively better IMO.
That's why my only choices that was Okky, got swapped as I got her this new year, now am gunning for Drake with Nightingale second and Ganesha third.
@@MuhammadKharismawan iirc, the only advantage is moon cancer star weight is low, whereas ruler is high, which can complicate matters if your dps doesn't have good star weight/star gather in their kit.
@@gibbzster at that point just use parachute
I love seeing these type of list videos on the waver ticket jut to reinforce myself that im going to pick Nightingale just cus she the only Sawashiro servant im missing
Fellow miyuki sawashiro enjoyer! Yay!
I didn't know she was Sawashiro. I still rolled for her in the past, and didn't get her, and it wouldn't change my decision this time. But I will definitely consider that in the future.
As an side note to video, Tamamo is a favorable pick for another reason, if one has an Account filled with high quality Arts Loopers like Spishtar or Sitonai: she effectively functions as 'Arts Insurance' for the Castoria Meta. Or in other words, the foxy lady can serve as your main enabler for Arts Looping if you can't get the sword fairy or have all the luck of thrice cursed crook with bad karma with your pulls. Together with Paracelsus (or Nero Bride, for some) and virtually any 50% CE (Especially Arts ones like Painting Summer, or the likes of Magical Sapphire) you have the makings of a more than half-way decent Arts comp with a Support Castoria and your preferred looper. Sure, you have to use a plugsuit to make it happen with most Loopers, and spread out the Mats to kit out two Casters, but it's either that or not having all an easy in to the Arts Meta, so you work with what you got.
In general I say Waver is still the stronger pick that Tamamo for accounts without access to either, but if a given account has a heavy hitting Arts AoE Servant like NP2+ Fionn, Grailed Jason/Salari/Gong, or the likes of Spishtar and Summer Musashi then it maybe a more worthwhile to get Tamamo now and hope/pray you can bag another 50% NP support later (or save your 2nd *5 Ticket for Waver if the fates _really_ have it out for you).
can you help me to decide, i dont have tamamo either waver but i have jealter np1 and kiara np2 both lv 100 and 10 10 10 should i take tamamo for looping with castoria support friends or waver for waver jalter merlin team (i have nightgale 10 10 10 lv 100 too for support that team)
im very in doubt what to take note a side i will roll for tamamo vitch (i will save nearly 2k saints quartz for her rn im at 500 without doing lostbell 1,2,3,4,5)
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First: Who do you like better? If you like playing around with Jalter enough , then pick whomever supports her best. If you like farming with Kiara, then pick Tamamo and start grinding up a Paraclesus.
Second: do you hate farming, or find your current set-ups lacking? If so, pick Tamamo in that case, as she + Paraclesus + Support Castoria can enable either your Kiara to clear Calvary or a sufficiently powerful GONG to clear everything else with minimal CE investment. Waver is useful, but if you got the Arts DPS for farming like Kiara and someone else to take care of Knight enemies you don't really _need_ him to succeed.
Third: Are you willing to wait awhile? Because if so you can just choose whomever you feel is best for you in the first ticket, and then snag the other choice in the 2nd SSR next year. That, and since you've said that you're saving up for Vitch (Nice choice!) you can do without a Waver until then if you're that confidant and patient you'll get her. Heck, pick up Waver with her too, since she can loop with him + other charge supports depending on what CEs you got and it's timely too.
@@anonjohn9760 well i think i will pick up tamamo so because i have paraclesus and for knight class i can use archer artoria summer and next year ill pick up waver, one last thing since i see you are a man of culture, joke a side you are really informated on this game more than me cuz i took 1 year of break do you think vitch is more a burster support or a buster dps and is better to try np 2 with her rather that roll only one time? because after her i will roll for sure all sq i have for morgan too
As an Arjuna fan it does kinda hurt to know that Arjuna isn't the hottest pick here (even after his buff coming soon), but it's also completely understandable too. If you're a new account just straight up go for the best picks (mainly Waver), having an easier time in this game is a lot more preferable than trying to struggle with your favorite character, you can still bide your time and get them eventually on a focus while still having a good backbone to most comps rather than having someone (be it Arjuna or others in the lower end of this tier list) that needs specific supports to them and doesn't shine in a lot of situations.
i really like his design and like attack animation really simple but still sucks
@@astroboy6203 he's still excellent once you have a fair share of good supports. Granted this is the case with most units, but he can shine very brightly in CQs or attrition fights, especially since he never has to worry about ailments.
I mean if a person is using Arjuna, they'd also use Double Merlin as support so the 1 turn duration of his buff won't really matter... and his second skill effects simply beats Garden of Avalon in every single effect after rank up
@@sanjeevsinghrajput5593 I generally prefer Tamamo+Merlin, that way the party's CDs are a lot less and Arjuna's abundance of Arts cards are a lot meatier when hitting, it makes a huge difference with her buffs.
Same can be said for a spare few just running Tamamo and Merlin though, especially in longer fights, they're just good together (at least before Castoria arrives and changes everything).
I hate that i've been Waverless for 3 years since I want Nightingale, Achilles, or Europa for collection reasons.
I really need a 50% charger
Waver should be in his own tier above "Top" called "Farming is 95% of the game"
I think that's what grandorder gamepress has been doing
@@chikomitata Lmao. Their tier list revolves around loop-farming.
I’m glad I got Mikon, so I can just get Waver without any remorse and get Cu Alter when the second ticket comes around.
It was the reverse for me, I had Waver so I picked Mikon
I was initially going to pick Brad or Karna, and while having my first SSR AOE Lancer would be nice, Parvati and Valks fill up that farming role nicely. Looks like Drake is gonna be my pick due to lack of a SSR AOE Rider. Thanks for helping me decide Fino, great video.
Achilles is better due to being capable of looping by himself even when entirely on his own honestly, why worry about Double Koyanskaya when we don't have that yet.
@@Cryocynical576
not to mention another SSR ticket where you can get Drake is gonna be out at the EXACT time when Vitch releases.
so yeah,I recommend Achilles more as well!
@@yappidyyap Great, Carrot it is! Granted, Achilles was my next Rider option before the analysis and already having good quick supports really solidify the pick.
Bradamante is really bad. Her dmg is so frickin low and her battery is almost useless. Go for Karna!!
Thank you for opening my eyes to the Chen Gong System! Even with just using double Nero Bride instead of Castoria, Gong loops EVERYTHING. I do have to give Merciless One to my Wave 1 sacrifice (Tamamo) to compensate for Reines's current 30% charge in Wave 2, but Skadi works fine for Wave 3. Waver is going to immediately replace Reines so I can drop Merciless One. I was even able to make a lower powered version that doesn't require any 50% chargers (MLB IE, Tamamo, Nero Bride x2, Reines, Paracelsus with Merciless One). Chen Gong is just amazing and he's solved all of my farming woes.
Best you pick imo :
1. Waver (if you don't have one)
2. Tamamo no mae (if you don't have one)
3. Jeanne (if you don't have ruler class)
After that i think you just need pick someone with good damage like Arthuria, Ozy, Jack, etc
The reason why 1 & 2 pick first because they servant who already max potential without any copies.
The reason number too just if you don't have ruler class.
Xp cards ✓
ascension & skill mats ✓
Qp✓
Memories of Trifas ✓
all set for Mordred!!
Okky is a good pick simply because she's a unique tertiary buffer for a buster/quick team IMO, for someone who doesn't have Merlin she's a big blessing when story limit you character choice, I also have MLB KScope so I can get her going pretty fast, her problem is really, like Skadi, neither snowball their NP because their battery is only targetable
Just borrow merlin pepega.
It's not even that hard, since sei, penth, Odysseus, Apoc, Erice, Shibata, Fuuma are all quests that are easy/disadvantage Osaka. They also can be cleared by a variety of better options that f2ps can use, like friend merlin.
She's not by any means a good pick lol. You can't say "Buster/Quick/Arts" teams, when that's not even how to approach cqs. It's to plan around the node, not make some random card type matching stuff.
@@amanpingle1497 do you not understand what I mean? It's on cases when you CAN'T BORROW MERLIN aka Forced Support.
Fino remembered how much Jeanne carried him on mistake vs Salter and had to put her in high tier
Jeanne was my first 5* way back when I first started. She's carried me from the beginning to even the boss fights of olympus now.
@@belphy205 As a fellow "Jeanne was my first my 5*" gang, I can relate to this. The problem with me was the game didn't give me any good DPS for nearly 2 years, and she was my only 5* for a year (my second 5* was Da Vinci Caster). So I tackled all of the hard stages with Mash + Jeanne + Medea Lily. It took more than 60 turns for the harder stages lol.
@@justawanderingoldman7699 I am impressed that is some dedication. I got lucky and got Jalter and Raikou soon after. So I was blitzing though story till I hit the brick wall known as Camalot.
7:31 I was originally going to get Waver for 50 NP charge then I got Reines where she has same role as her brother so I just need to patient about it, then my next target is Osakabehime because I actually like her gameplay but I got spook by her during the Saber Wars 2 Event, and so destiny provides me a way to get Ganesha with the SSR Ticket.
@Adrian Murillo Who says I am doing Crits?
@Adrian Murillo I mean I could but I already have a different setup for that.
I'd say still go for Waver. There's a lot of interesting stuff you get access to by having two 50% chargers (3 with outside support). Plus Waver can function as a crit support with his first skill and a star dump CE equipped, something that Reines can't do because she has no crit damage amplifier (and higher star weight to steal more stars too).
@@Jack_Rakan Don't worry I already picked Waver for my 2 month JP account so I know what you mean. But seriously I am long time player so I know how Waver works but I am not even a 3 turn farmer player so having only one 50 NP charge Character is enough for me and since my NA account is already established that I just picked a character that I wanted to get.
@@barneypurple3435 In that case since your account is already established, go ahead and pick Jinako. For me, my pick is Jeanne because I wanted her for so long, but if I had gotten her by now, my second in line would have been Okki.
Three-plus years of low-to-mid-range whaling and I'm still yet to be spooked by Tamamo Caster (Cat on more than one occasion, but not Caster). She still has value even with Castoria, so she'll be my first choice. Though NP2 Artoria Prime was very tempting.
Same, even one time spooked on a banner featuring her and another.
She has even more value when Castoria drops!
since I have all of the non-limited support units I was going to go for saber, but Artoria wants like 180+ proof of heroes (I only have like 10), next on my list was Karna but he wants like 216 proof of heroes, so it came down to just picking a unit that I want but wouldn't roll for and on the top of that list was Europa so I guess she is my choice.
Be ready to farm the twinkling stars if you don't have them already for Europa
Lotto has proofs this year so really the costs should be no big deal
Finally bit the bullet and started playing from scratch yesterday, thanks for the advice, and pulled a Cu alter, Bathory, and Nero on 10 summon tickets today. The luck.
Babe wake up!!! New Fino video!!!
Nothing will prevent me from getting my Np5 Vlad. Uncles before Waifus
I salute you sir!
*Nods* You have chosen wisely. Vlad is a _beast_ , and he'll only grow stronger with time.
I've been mulling over my options and narrowed it down to NP2 Ozymandias, NP2 Enkidu, or just Ganesha as a new servant. It's tempting to get the boost in power from NP1>2 but it's conflicting with event servants being in my roster at NP5 with decent skill levels.
I would only go for NP2 if you really really like that character and would use them over any other servant of the same type.
NP2 ozzy is going to be so strong after his buffs
I really want to pick Bradamante because of her THICC NP animation, but she is most likely going to rot without ever getting use after ascending her
I already got the top tiers, Artoria, Altera, Enkidu, Karna(spooked me on Musashi yesterday), Achilles, Ozy, and Vlad.
This leaves my choices to Mordred, Jack, Batty and Jinako.
I have plenty of Sabers that can take Mo's place, Kama at NP2, and before I forget..I got Iskander and Odysseus, as well as an NP4 Helena.
So yeah, Batty is actually my best choice.
I really don't agree with Oki placement, obviously she isn't Merlin or Skadi, but her kit does have some really interesting buff (party wide crit, removing buff, a battery, quick and buster buff), plus she can be really good as a last man or solo servant.
She isn't a priority but she definitely is way more useful than someone like Sherazade or Orion.
A FGO video from you is like a miraculous oasis in a desert for me, Fino. Sure, there are many others out there, but none like yours.
My take, take whatever you like.
If thats covered go for Waver
If thats covered go for artoria either np1 or any np up if you re set to save for Koyanskaya of light.
Hey I feel like I lucked out. My three favorite characters (on this list) are mostly good mechanically. Tamomo Waver and Achilles.
I'm new to this game. I know waver is a stupidly op support just from all the meme's alone. I know if I don't get him now, it will bite me in the ass later, and I probably won't get him for a very very long time. Knowing all this still didn't stop me from picking Artoria cause I'm a artoria-stan lol
Thank you for actually putting this video out on time because I totally fucking forgot this ticket was coming
Like the logical thing for me to do is probably pick up either tamamo or enkidu but I kinda want to go for europa, osaka or jinako
I was waiting for your video in who to pick on SSR ticket. And was ignoring everyone else's opinion on it. Finally. It's here. Thank you
Me: "OK, i'm either going to get either Altria, Jeanne or Altera"
*Rolls standard banner beforehand and gets Altria*
Me: *Jaw drops to floor*
I’m debating between Jean and Ozy. I don’t have a 5 star ST Rider and already have Amakusa and Mothman for 5 Star Rulers….but Jean is a good Waifu. Tough decision
Go with your heart first, and it shouldn't lead you astray. In terms of 'bang for your buck' , though, Ozy is better, simply because his kit allows him to be useful in all kinds of scenarios (and therefore you build Bond with him faster and more optimally) as opposed to Jeanne's 'Tank and Pray until it is _done_ ' method of dealing with fights.
jean spooked me back when i started playing a year ago, and boy im glad she did. with her, CQs and story fights managed to get me up to speed just in time for oniland. and now with olympus, herc in the backline barely sees any action with her keeping the front together.
Reminder that ozy gets a buff sometimes in the future (I forgot the exact date) which makes him hit harder
Though if you like stall comps Jeanne can compliment it really well since she's tanky+works really well after all her rank ups, as long as the enemies aren't avenger or zerks
Good luck on making the choice, hope you have a great time with whoever you picked
Jeanne. Complete the rulers
I would say Amakusa and Mothman fulfill different niches than Jeanne so having them doesn’t discount her. Ozymandias does become really strong once he gets his two buffs in the future but he can still be substituted for lower rarity riders if you have them.
Going Orion/Artemis. One benefit of hers is that she's a ST SSR Archer in a field devoid of ST SSR Archers. The others are Squirtoria, who is now only available via GSSR, Moriarty, who is generally considered worse than Arty, and that's it. Plus, she's play well with my 2x grailed Chloe. I hope.
But the real reason I'm picking her are Interludes. I'm good in terms of class coverage, so I'm thinking outside of the conventional box.
There is also super Orion who seems to be in a rarity of his own
So this video definitely got me rethinking my pick; I have most of the Servants on the list, so I thought I'd choose Vlad, but didn't factor in his noodle damage at np1... maybe I'll go for an np upgrade on Drake or Ozzy instead >.> Thanks for the info as always, boss!
I've been torn on either Jeanne or Ozymandias for longest time.
I like both of their designs, their VAs, and both are waifu/husbando as hell. (plus my only other ST Rider is Ushi...)
I'm gonna have to sleep on this one, because I genuinely can't pick between them
if it helps at all, we are getting another SSR ticket with next year's anniversary. So unless you want a particular storylocked servant, you could just wait for the other!
Jeanne is a great wall for stall battles and cq while ozymandias gets better with his np and first skill buff to make him an absolute nuke.
I would choose Jeanne as a np 2 Jeanne will make her a juggernaut while np 1 ozymandias is fine as his kit does all the work for him.
But either way you can get them both with the SSr ticket and second one.
@@ivanbluecool that's true. plus I'm not too focused on a story locked servant since I have Cu Alter and he's probably the one I would've chosen for the next ticket
also I think there is a slight miscommunication. I don't have Jeanne, so it would be NP1 Jeanne for her as well.
@@AoiLucine true, I might just go for Ozy on this one and Jeanne on the next
@@whydoistillusethissite8626 oh well yeah I meant it as np 0 for both and a possible spook in the future. Jeanne would be better to get now and hope for a spook on both as she'll be a super tank while ozymandias is fine that way. St riders are easy to come by so a good tank would be better overall.
But either way. Do what you like as long as they make you happy.
I was initially debating between Artoria and Tamamo, but I'll choose Tamamo because I already have 4 servants with absurd proof requirements for skills (Iskandar, Arthur, Gil, and Musashi)
I’ve dedicated my soul to getting Nightingale, and nothing is going to stop me!
I was really indecisive and so watched 7 of these videos, can say for certain yours was the best one.
Thank you for showing the attack animations of each servant, i don't think anyone else did that.
Ah yes the obligatory "Arjuna bad" reddit opinion, very cool. Dudes actually a very solid soft survival Archer. There's many solos that are right up his ally. But yes, for farming usage he isn't ideal.
There’s a lot of better archers, and he’s not someone you’d really want to use a ticket on.
>Not much point in picking Anastasia if you're rolling for Castoria and grail Chen Gong
My brother, I have already grailed him to 90 and run "The Gong Show" on assassin and berserker nodes with impunity. Arash wave 1. Only gets better in the future, can't wait.
I'm gonna be honest I'd basically swap Xuanzang and Enkidu's places, especially with what Koyanskaya offers. She's literally the only servant in the game with full-turn party-wide debuff immunity - on a pretty good cooldown at that - and her 80% charge is also on a 5t cooldown. Two Koyans, the 20% charge append skill, and the 20% charge mystic code or swapping in Merlin? 3 consecutive beefy NP turns with whatever CE you want. Plus your alternatives for ST casters just really aren't there, especially not on a budget level. Enkidu's great and all, but the clunkiness makes for way less consistency in the niche - especially in a world where Cu Chulainn is literally just about to be buffed to be even tankier and harder-hitting, we're just about to get Lancer Yu who's pretty decent, and even Gareth's getting more to play with.
if you genuinely think enkidu is mid tier you are insane my guy
was originally going for arjuna, but i got him from the chaldea boys event. So i’ll go for tamano now, as she’s the only top support i’m missing
Yeah I'm definitely going for Enkidu
Forgot one of the crazy buffs on Ozzy's NP: the Cooldown reduction for all skills. Because of his pretty great skills, it guarantees a Challenge quest unit with little downsides.
For me, it’s between Ganesha or Jeanne. I like both of them but I don’t know who to choose for now. I’m probably will choose Jeanne for purely she’s a ruler but Ganesha can be good tank as well. For gameplay purpose, i need st caster but idk man. Too many choices
Honestly if u want a ruler just wait till next year da Vinci ruler is an amazing support and does far more than Jeanne
The thing about Vlad is that hes in a similar position to Dantes pre-Skadi right now. He's an investment. With the advent of Castoria and Append skills his real estate spikes dramatically in my opinion (hes not obscenely broken but he can do beeg numbers) and with the advent of his second np upgrade he *finally* gets proper upgraded scaling on his NP along with an Arts resis debuff. That makes Vlad into a comparable NP spammer like Okita or Nero Bride where he can just keep ramping up with each NP making the next even stronger. In addition to that hes a fairly decent survival berserker between charge drain, defence, and a 2 time guts post Apoc upgrade. (He does lose out to Cu alter tho because PFA). With Mad Enhancement EX and a hybrid deck Vlad can even work in pseudo jank setups with meta and budget buster/arts supports.
All that said the thing about Vlad is that he is still a sizeable investment. Put in the effort and he will pay dividends. Mine is fully grailed, lored, np3, and almost fully gold fou'd and he does tremendous work. But you have to be willing to make him a core attacker.
I was thinking of picking Vlad, but is np 1 Vlad any good? My other picks include Jeanne, cause i already have tamamo and waver.
@@philipraphaelw9492 np1 vlad does not hit as hard as youd want him to, I'll say that, especially right now on NA. With his second upgrade he'll hit pretty decent. I'd say Jeanne is the better objective pick, she lets you weather a lot of storms. However if you think you can make Vlad a solid attacker (you dont need to go as far as I did with grails and such, i just like Vlad) then you get a pretty solid near universal attacker that synergises with a fair few meta and sub meta characters. Tamamo and Nero Bride can make him a star even now.
@@ShotgunMcgee666 oke you have convinced me, Vlad it is (my first ssr is nero bride), and i don't have a lot of good ST art np servant, maybe just the welfare (chloe, rioma, bb and kagetora)
Tamamo no Mae has avoided me for too long!
Gonna drag that fox back to my Chaldea and get her pumped up for some ridiculous arts memes!!!
But other than that, Ozzy and Artoria are ones I'd like too...
There must be a use for Tamamo with Double Castoria to boost Arts output even more. Muramasa, Spishtar, Umu Bride just to name a few.
have to love this guy's takes. no wiki reading, no sugar coating just cold, hard and objective stats.
I'm a seasoned fgo player and I still think getting a Ascension level 1 and bond level 5 is really difficult if you actually have a life outside of playing the fucking game. Alas, I'll probably pick Mordred and attempt to get her requirements done so I can keep it.
We're getting another fre ssr ticket down the line anyway, so personally I'm picking Tamamo now to have something to work with when Castoria comes out. Sorry Waver, you're gonna have to wait until next time
Good point. Guess I’ll be picking Tamamo over Artoria after all 👍
@@exstee Yeah, that way if Castoria rolls don't go well at least you'll still have Tamamo for the friend support Castoria. Better that than having neither, that'd be crimge
There's more than one?
Hey Fino i finally can watch your channel again today
I'm definitely picking Waiver, but I'm kinda tempted to pick Europa so I can make Greek aoe meme team with her, Achilles, and Odysseus.
The moment that I grailed my Chen Ghong to 100 made me realize that I dont need other SSR out there for farming except castoria
Ah yes, the "pick Waver if you don't have Waver" ticket.
Moedred's apocrypha costume is SS+ tier hands down
Defaulted to Tam. Already got Waver, Jeanne, Enkidu, Jack and Xuanzang. NP2 AA and NP3 Spishtar so I don't really have any pressing AoE needs. For ST...I got Caesar(NP4 Diarmuid also for some reason), Santera, Cu(Kenshin once DCS?), Xuanzang(maybe Casterdouji once DCS?), Yoshi, Kama, and NP3 Nyalter.
Huh. Going off advice, I spent most of my early account resources and rolls on support units. So I'd gotten Waver, Merlin, Skadi already and now Tam via ticket. And in turn I don't really have too many high rarity damage options with a bunch of NP levels behind them, particularly on the ST side...I've been getting by fine, but it does feel kinda weird how much more value investing in supports first has had.
Been playing for over 1000 days, still no Jeanne. Finally, I can get her
Oh dang, I had Jeanne picked out as my choice to give myself stall utility months ago, but Reddit convinced me to go with Ozymandias out of a mixture of my only gold single target Rider being Sakamoto and Ozymandias' well-timed skill and NP buffs for the new buster meta. For the next ticket, it'll be a tough call between Jeanne, NP 2 Artoria (whom I've already got at 1000 +2000/+2000), and Drake, as my other 5* Rider is Iskandar, who I like but who lacks a battery.
between her own NP and the overcharged buff of a Hans, Europa should have no problem surviving enemy NPs, even without her invincible buffs on
sounds like a really interesting build-around for story chapters and CQs, far better than 3 turning with Meta supports in any case
my EXPs, Mats and Grails are ready for Enkidu. I'm so excited for it. deymn
Imma be real, I've been using jinako as generic support for everything from cq's to farming for ages. Definitely not using her for her class or dmg but i still find her pretty useful
This does not mean you should ticket her, waver is still the funniest generic support ever made. I just never got why people disliked her as a unit.
Because moon cancer is the worst class in the game followed by the fact that for farming Paracelsus does more than her. She has a better kit than Jeanne but in average both don’t really do that much and with castoria around the corner the need for a tank dwindles
@@amari7782 "unit < castoria" isnt really a productive point though.
We all know that much but who would even try to compare the two units? Castoria is definitely the best unit in the game by a disgusting margin so i just don't get why bring it up here?
Again, my point has nothing to do with whether the ticket should be used on jinako or whether jinako is meta, but rather "is this unit actually BAD."
15-23 (bond ce/2030) stars per turn, charisma, and the shortest cd targeted invuln in addition to a taunt/self invuln for sacking or surviving nps is honestly enough for a standard account to get value out of. Loops will of course remain meta but this isnt a meta discussion, its about general usability.
Paracelsius is only relevant in terms of looping which is probably not why people would use ganesha in the first place tbh
Nevertheless, not really worth a huge argument, but youtube just now notified me so i figured id reply
I got jeanne before watchin this video and I'm very happy this vid said I was right, she has taught me how much I love a woman who knows how to pray...
Imo, I wouldn't say Jeanne is a top pick simply because in 3 months, castoria comes out and she does Jeannes job, a charge offensive arts support and the only things that are lost is the small heal and the defensive buff but you gain true invulnerability along with a huge attack buff but if anyone sees this, lemme know if I'm capping or not
Its a mixed bag.
On one hand, Castoria allows you to basically ignore 1 attack or np without much repercussion (few exceptions). However, thats the problem, its only 1 hit. Sure, overcharge could help but thats rather outlandish to setup.
Jeanne can however help your team survive consecutive attacks/np's. The problem is she lacks the steroids Castoria brings which could mean the fight would last longer and a longer fight means more room for error and ultimately failure.
TLDR; Castoria is probably the better pick simply by virtue of being able to end fights quicker. Survivability doesnt matter when the enemy is dead before they can strike after all.
So yeah Jeanne in the long run might not be the best pick. Also kind of weird how they haven't buffed her signifcantly whatsoever after having her niche stolen by Castoria.
If you can get her... for a non whale, getting an SSR is up to RNG will. I still remember back then before Skadi came, a lot hyped up by recommending good Quick servants. I somehow managed to get nearly all of those good Quick servants, but I failed to get Skadi... Now all of those Quick servants are for collection purpose only...
My point is, saying a Servant is obsolete just because there will be a better servant coming in the future is only a whale's thing. F2P need to grab any kind of way to improve their rooster. From my experience of using Jeanne as my only SSR for nearly 2 years, I can say that Jeanne can help even the weakest team to clear harder contents. It will take a lot of turns tho lol. And having both Castoria and Jeanne isn't a bad thing either IMO.
@@freshlymemed5680 “ over charge could help but that’s rather outlandish”
In what world? With the amount of over charge buffing servants and Ces combined with options like merlin lanling and reines getting a full no dmg run if solemn defense is the easiest thing in the world
@@amari7782 Don’t forget the Amakusa CE that gives 2 levels of overcharge THREE times if you have it it ain’t hard getting stacks of solemn defense at all lol
@@joshromero1796 I did say “ there are tons of ces and servants that boost over charge coming” so that would fall under the category
Missed chance to introduce him as ya boy kongming
Lol I still picked Osakabehhime, no regrets
Artoria supremacy is top tier even if u have Arjuna Alter like I do
OzymanDIO will be mine.
finally more fino
also this ticket is easy because after getting artoria 4 times on gssr's I just want that 5th one so I can ride that high when we get koyan and oberon
brain says waver, heart says Mordred. idek what im gonna do.
I would actually say that Arjuna is the best of the Archers, his buffs on JP are pretty powerful. However... with all the other options in this GSSR, he's not that high tier unless you love him.
Man If only story picked is already available I'd pick Lancuria
I was going to pick Jeanne just because I wanted her but if she's still useful nowadays then I'll have zero doubt
Already got Tamamo so I'll go with Jeanne D arc so that my Jeanne alter won't go lonely without her vanilla self.
Jinako is actually pretty solid imo. Yeah, her damage isn’t amazing, but she’s easily one of the best tanks in the game. Friend Jinakos helped me out a lot in many boss fights, even on my less developed JP account. If you like her and want to pull her, she can do work. Even before her buff.
I still have no idea who to pick because I'm only missing Napoleon, Europa, and Arjuna, none of which I particularly want, and everyone else I either have at an NP level where another copy doesn't make much of a difference (especially Tam and Jeanne (both somehow NP5)) or have someone else to fill their niche a bit better considering NP levels - the only exception maybe being Vlad
I like how many of you are were debating which one you would pick based on meta, and I just picked Jack because I didn't have her and she's cute.
Yes officer, this man right here
So here's my thoughts on the Archers: you have plenty of strong picks in the lower rarity so patching roster holes isn't that hard of a challenge. Class is super dumb strong so the power gap isn't as large.
Literally, the best guide!
Isn’t Arjunas second skill strengthening makes him much better now? He can help farm in comps that aren’t running skadi or castoria and he could be helpful in CQs where his NP and another are needed. I don’t think he’s bottom of the barrel anymore. Especially if you’re talking about future things koyanskaya, it’s worth bringing up Arjunas np charge every run for his party on his second skill
Quite surprised to see Vlad in medium. What with the Arts meta looming over us, I thought he'd be a pretty good pick.
Enkidu has received enough buffs that he's borderline busted. The def-down, mana burst and semi-spammable NP can soundly destroy any archer.
It's all Tamamo for me. To this day I still don't have her (only just got Waver by accident last year, even), and the only one reliably on my friend list is Six, but he's not always available, so multi-class fights that I can't think of anything better than trying to win neutral with Vlad or BB fall flat. With my own Tamamo, I'll actually be able to do some of those things when Team Skadi just doesn't work well (like most all CQs).
Okki needs arts buff added and cooldown reduc on np, making her a rainbow crit and sustain focused support. Improve her battery a bit and she'd be in ship-shape.
Honestly i would just make her defense buffs be for the whole team instead of herself, and maybe an increase on battery and she would be amazing.
Im at the stage where I don't follow tier list and just fill in roles im lacking. For example a quick support that gives NP like osaka since i never rolled for skadi
I was immediately thinking of getting a Caster here, especially since I've been wanting a combat caster for awhile.
Currently my Casters are Nero, Murasaki, and Merlin.
So I think Xuanzang would be my best bet??
Not sure where Nero and Murasaki stand in regards to their DPS in general, but they're multi NP instead of single which is currently what I lack.
"Tamamo might not seem like the sexiest choice with Castoria around the corner"
I don't want to talk to anyone who thinks Castoria is sexier than Tamamo.
Honestly it’s false since if u fail to get castoria you can farm with Tamamo castoria
Part of me wants to do a husbando pick with karna or napoleon, but Ive been playing the game for years and have yet to ever get drake. So I'll probably go for her
assembling the gong system is like having all infinity stones. i love it
Whata the gong system?
T H E G O N G
I think imma go with Tamamo because I love arts teams and knowing my luck I'm not getting Castoria.
So basically comes down to np 2 Ozy, Artoria, clay boy or np 1 Mo for a Saber with a cleanse for challenge content
Except there’s not much challenging content where you’d need a saber with that
@@amari7782 still nice it have since I have everyone on this list but Altera, Napoléon, Karna, Bradamante, Europa, Anastasia, Scheherazade, Osakabehime, Xaing Yu, and Jinako but there servants to have i have equivalents to with equal or higher levels. Unless you have better idea for a grab
@@Devil935 honestly waver or Tamamo since Mordred kinda doesn’t have that much going for her since both her dads beat her out in just about everything she wants to do
@@amari7782 doesn't make sense to get Np 2 Waver like Fino as for Tamamo, an Np 2 would make her a better healer but I feel like I don't lack that in my account
@@Devil935 np 1 is good enough
So Arjuna is still underwhelming with a Gardens of Avalon in his pocket after the rankup and the 5 turn long Debuff Immunity?
picked Vlad and now he can hit less like a potato now (he was np1 for the longest time, so I needed to upgrade his np to help out with his overall capabilities and I grailed him to level 100)
other account picked Arjuna because of 2 reasons: 1) I am kind of sick of np3 Artemis being the only other archer ssr on that account and 2) I have Karna and wanted to reunite the two :)
I'm using having Reines as an excuse to not pick Waver. Going for Mordred instead.
Why Mordred? Artoria NP1 is way Stronger than Mordred NP3
Care to explain why?
@@luthfimisbah5103 hell waver is still stronger than reines so why not have both
Jokes on you all im picking arjuna for husbando purposes.
I had to consult no list. Finally, after all these years, after dozens of rolls, this game was forced to give me Artoria. There's no way in any version of hell I was going to miss that.
i got Tamamo,Merlin,Skadi and Nero Bride so im really keen on picking Waver as someone who has been Waver-less for 3 years. my NP2 Spishtar could easily fill the gaps on loop farming so aside from wanting Bradamante for collecting reasons, i think imma settle on Waver.
Waver is definitely a must-have. At least up until Castoria comes out and possibly beyond, he's easily the most versatile if not completely broken like Castoria, Merlin, or Skadi. The kindest to all victims of the RNG God.
@@dangeorge809 yeah i was considering how i would deal with castoria too coz of f2p reasons. i barely played last year and even these past few months so i have barely saved some quartz. i really regret using about 270+ quartz and 20+ tickets from the very first Bradamante banner coz i lost my motivation after that.
Probably gonna grab Mo-san to finally get non-Shiki out from the AoE Saber slot, tho once Ibuki Douji comes out that slot might get moved away sooner.
Still, after playing from near the start, I have been somehow blessed (or cursed) with NP2 Waver and NP2 Tammy on top of like half the good picks already (Jeanne, Achilles, Np2 Orion, Np3 Jack, NP2 Anastasia)...and Np3 Arjuna :/ . Still kinda wish I could've just gotten Osakabe or Jinako since I'm really feeling those Megane vibes but I guess the Hikki Girls just ain't hanging with me no more and I NEED my Saber of Red
Easy choice for me. Jinako and Napoleon are the only 2 from the list that I don’t have and whilst Napoleon’s cool and all he’s kinda meh to me. So Jinako it is.
FOr my take. Most I can agree with or abstain save the following:
Jeanne - sadly, nope, she's not that good at all. She's soon to be completely overshadowed by castoria, and even in pre-castoria there is little reason to deploy her nowadays. Her best days are long behind her. I'd give her mid at best.
Orion (aka Artemis) - yeah, that's too high for her, which is WAY sad. She's useless! That 3 star goddess will serve you tons better. And there is no buffs on the horizon that will change this. She's just bad.
Karna - I think he deserves a mid tier slot. I actually use him a lot, especially compared to your other low tier picks, and even many of the mid tier picks, so think he's more valuable than that.
Osaka - While not a huge upgrade, I do think she manages a low tier slot. She's actually got all the pieces to be an excellent support... they just aren't quite right. I would upgrade her mostly because she is very handy in rider heavy battles which wreck your caster supports which at this point are the vast majority of the main supports. Until Koya comes along, which is still over a year out, she's reasonable, if not great. I find myself using her a surprising amount.