I think she understood him because he grew up in a fish.bowl like her Micheal on other hand dnt know if he had the maturity for marriage he also.loved Elvis and he may have had designs on his catolauge like he went and bought Beatles catolauge Paul gave him. Advice about buying music rights as another way to make money and he went ok I'll buy Beatles he was fly as a bag of monkeys not stupid that way so possibly he wanted elvis music too who really knows think he trying to love her as much as he could Lisa said as much
Overall, I have nothing but great/solid sentiments, thoughts, perceptions, etc., of Lisa. What I do want to touch on, though, is this “discussion” or “question” about whether Lisa and Mike’s marriage/relationship was genuine, romantic, sexual, etc. I'm 34 *[35 in October],* so I witnessed the years that Mike and Lisa were together, first and foremost. There are numerous things I could get into, as far as who I am, the skillsets I have acquired, the experience I have obtained that goes well beyond my years, and more. However, as someone who has been a survivor of just about anything one could think of *[numerous instances of SA, DV, physical, mental, and emotional abuse, trafficking, etc.],* overall for approximately 26 years now, including a vast degree of experience *[20+ years worth and counting]* with intense and emotionally grueling one-on-one therapy, working closely and intimately alongside *hundreds* of fellow survivors and victims *[both men/guys and women/girls of all different ages, sexual orientations, personalities, experiences, separate and connected struggles, diagnoses, backgrounds, walks of life, etc.]* in therapy organized in a group format, intensive dual-diagnoses-based inpatient and outpatient treatment programs/centers, support groups, meetings, educational classes/seminars, and so much more, for that merely covers the general gist of things associated with being a survivor, and not everything surrounding the fact that I am an addict in long-term recovery, first-hand experiences with the legal/justice system, struggling with an ED in the past, as well as self-harm, plus more than I could ever reasonably establish in this form, even though I never questioned Michael’s innocence regarding the false allegations made against him both in life and after his untimely passing, nor have I ever questioned the legitimacy of Mike and Lisa’s relationship/marriage, ultimately, I decided to go on an extensive and lengthy journey back in 2020 into anything and everything related to these things when I continued to have a particular 2019 hit piece presented to me over and over and over again in my TH-cam algorithm, despite not looking at anything that should push that into my “recommended feed.” I am firmly and passionately against the notion that society should merely “believe all allegations made/believe all alleged victims-no matter what,” especially given my background and wide range of experience/s with practically everything of that nature, so I made sure to do my due diligence and look as far into anything and everything I could find *[there is a never-ending amount, mind you],* and boy did I find *a lot.* To be as straightforward as possible, it is an *objective* and *objectively substantiated fact* that *A:* Michael is and always was entirely innocent of the despicable nonsense alleged against him, and *B:* Lisa and Mike’s relationship and marriage was nothing but completely authentic, genuine, romantic, sexual, and even long-lasting. The two dated on and off for *years* after they divorced. I always find it interesting that so many people have issues with seeing/establishing that Michael was nothing but a straight and red-blooded man who not only loved women but exuded blatant sexual energy and actions toward women, lol. What I just described is in no way difficult to discern; People seem to have trouble differentiating between MJ, the persona/brand, and the man behind the mystery. I don't mind going into more detail whatsoever; Still, everything that I person needs to discern and understand the truth is out there and easily accessible-you simply need to pay close attention to details. ✌️🏽🫶🏼
@@billg7205 lavender marriage that would have been called bk then like rock hudson phylis gates and Judy Garland and Vincent manelli I heard where Raymond Burr wasn't actually married to anyone that he invented a wife and child that died before he was famous so he had a story and a history that way if he was never seen with a woman it was likely assumed that he was a widower that never moved on sorry im facinated with old Hollywood it was a story I saw on a video documentary I came across not sure if it was true or not
@@Leahbumblebee872 Nope. Lisa loved him until she died. She followed him around the world for 5 years after they divorced and even after that she was still sending him begging letters and making friends with his family. Most of her songs are about MJ. Just a Dream, Weary, Indifferent, Over Me, I Was Wrong, Now What and The Road Between.
HIS ego??? LIsa Maria ai a talentless, unattractive, drug addict who just happened to have a famous father so she has been ridding his coat tails all her life, just like her mother, Priscilla who never changed her last name so she could get a free ride too. Shameful - both of them!!!
That's true with all narcissusts - "the closer you are to the person the harder they are on you." People have no idea how abusive narcissists are behind closed doors.
fyi It was Lisa Marie that sat with MJ's body in the time period before he was buried. Just her, no his family nor any friends. She wrote about this "window" of time, her place in it, and her love for Michael....it was very touching
It is unfair. Though there's never been free speech on social media what so ever. The market is completely unregulated and they can do whatever they feel like. They don't even have to have any reasons to ban folks.
That GREEDY WITCH Pricilla trying to steal her Daughter’s Estate. Of course Elvis DETESTED Scientology and so did his Daughter. I hope her relationship will a Horrible CULT will go against her.
TH-cam is a private company and they have Terms of Service rules you agree to. It's the same with every social media platform. Copyright infringment is part of the TOS violations. It's the rules unfortunately.
I think Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley are the only ones who know for certain why they married and that it’s none of our business. They took their reasons to their graves and we need to concentrate on OUR OWN lives and let them Rest In Peace.
💯 a big 1 for Lisa Marie and Michael! She stated it over and over. It’s a known fact she did love him and it was a real marriage in every sense of the word.
1. I didn't believe they were a real couple until I heard Lisa Presley speak of how much she loved him. She spoke her truth and didn't care what the public thought.
Lisa Marie Presley had much more intellect than to be matched with someone like Tom Cruise who has proven to the world that he has an inability to love in a physical and emotional way 👍
Let's back up a little bit... this woman married Michael Jackson. Yes, it's sad that she died, but she abused drugs. Her whole life, she was a Scientologist, and as I mentioned, she married Michael Jackson. So her intellect to stay away with Tom Cruise doesn't really translate into much more than not going near Tom Cruise.
I didn't know her or really anything about her. She seems to be a private person, as much as she could be. She seemed to have a strong b.s. monitor. Sadly, not so much for scientology. Or maybe her mother had a strong influence with that.
I think Lisa-Marie and MJ believed they loved eachother, but not sure if their understanding of love, given their 'life experience', is the same as what most people would understand it to be. I imagine they both had similar longings, experience and emptiness that noone else could understand, that gave them a sense of safety and security being with the other.
Defo Andrew and Aarron smith Levin and Andrew and Shaun attwood too it's great when Aaron quotes that he wants to troll the F🤬ck out of David mascavage if anyone gonna bring him down it's Aaron he ain't scared of them 😄😂 and Andrew and his edge hogs can help hee hee😄
@@janetcoombes8483 nope never she kept quiet for years just mentioned she fell apart after the divorce she got very I'll with the stress only time I saw her so thin till golden globes but she was more open after his death and said she understood alot more about him afterwards but nu a mile away he was going same way as her father he asked her once do u think I'll end up like Elvis and she said he needed to get rid of the vampires think it was her term of yes man hangers on like most of Elvis crew apart from a few like Jerry schilling 8 think she saw Micheal go down that way along time ago and she knew he Wasn't going to listen she let him go and I dnt blame her she knew that was on cards for him even when he seemed to be doing better she could tell he was out his face our hyper on benzidine and in end on propafol which even hospitals dnt like using anymore his intolerance must have been through the roof for that kind of stuff god knows how doc Conrad Murray coul get away with taking it out a hospital doctor feel goods getting paid alot of extra money houses carts so Elvis and Micheal were givin what they wanted instead of what they really needed there no longer Doctor conflict of interest there just glorified drug dealers several on pay roll probably it still going on it tore her up inside seeing history repeat it self then Benjamin she had a hard life I think she was only truly happy with her kids and being alone with her daddy wen she was I really young feel for her only family I have is my son it would distroy me to if I lost him 😢
@@llamamama2910 what kids? Lisa's kids had only good things to say about MJ. If you talk about Chandler you don't even know what that massive liar drivelled about MJ. The story he said would mean that within 24 hours, while being on libido oppressing opioids MJ did all these: masturbate multiple time, do oral on chandler, masturbated Chandler sex times. If you believe that you may very well believe in unicorns too
@@JerseyLynne Maybe because he treated Nicole Kidman so badly when he divorced her? At the time California law said at 10 years of marriage, if a divorce occurred, assets were split 50/50. Cruise filed for divorce sometime during their 9th year of marriage, so he wouldn't have to split their assets. The court recognized what he was doing and I believe he had to pay her 50% anyway. But that's when I stopped liking him.
Lisa Marie definitely loved Michael Jackson. I follow her on social media. Up until her death, she was still following pages about MJ. She even LIKED MJ posts even after the death of her son. On Billy Corgan's podcast, he did confirm that Lisa Marie told him that she really did love MJ.
She also unfollowed Oprah after Leaving Neverland. Lisa Marie had no doubt about Michael Jackson. No one else should either, coz she was not the woman to marry if you had something to hide. MJ had nothing to hide.
1. They were in love. But he wanted kids right away and her having two younger ones already didn’t want a couple more right away. Scientology actually had a lot to do with their breakdown using the same methods as Nicole and Tom. She went on tours with him and they discussed getting re-married for four years after the divorce. They always had very strong feelings towards each other and she remained close to his family.
Lisa Marie was interviewed several times, including Oprah, where she was very straightforward about loving Michael Jackson. The relationship was physical, etc. She goes into raw detail about their feelings for each other that don’t in any way sound contrived. She is quite honest about really trying to make it work. Two thoughts on MJ’s trip to the LRH museum. While I believe Mike Rinder’s account, the idea that there was NO press given the way the man was always swarmed . . . And, as you said, MJ was raised in a devout Jeh Witness family. His mother knocked on doors until her death. MJ may or may not have been practicing the faith, but the idea that his mother would learn that he was exploring another church would be something he would NEVER want her to hear-hence maybe some of his paranoia during the Scientology tour.
Yeah as an exjw myself, there’s no way he would have contemplated Scientology for many reasons, same deal with Catholicism too. Some exjws enter mainstream Christianity after they leave, but usually real low control religions . I’ve heard of exjws becoming Mormons on rare occasions, and also going into Buddhism. Most tend to become agnostic or atheists
Once you leave a cult, even if you have no recovery from it, more than likely you smell another one a mile away. He was probably running for hills saying not this crap again. I dont even think he was worried what his parents thought at that point. You go into self protection mode.
Why are people so precious that you cannot say the truth anymore. You should be able to say anything on your channel as long as you can justify it. Love you guys. Keep up the great work.
I have never liked Tom Cruise and now have so many more reasons why my belief is correct. He has a very large ego and wants people to know it. I don't watch any of his films ever. This was an interesting discussion Aaron and Andrew. Really enjoyed it. May Lisa Marie rest in peace. Lisa definitely loved Michael Jackson.
I've personally heard senior scio staffers speak disparagingly about TC. One said she didn't like him and LOVED John Travolta. The other felt he black PR'd the 'church' with his couch jumping etc... and said he really needed a re-tread on his PR execution. If any other Celeb did that shit, they'd be thrown into Ethics. But not dear leader's 'Bestie'! She was PISSED at him. I also had to deal with a lot of public saying he was nuts and gives Scio a bad reputation. If you look closely - for a flash nano-second you see Princess Catherine wince/flinch when TC with his 'no boundary recognition' grabbed her hand. Of COURSE, she didn't want to make a public scene and bring it to the world's attention, so she HAD to let the little weasel have his way. How DARE he put her in that position!! I'm sure it would have been a topic of discussion among the Royals afterward. She handled it well - even though she had no choice PR wise. Most celebs don't like TC, most scio staff don't either, and even scio public are embarrassed about him - for obvious reasons.
Really enjoyed this chat Between you two. I have to say that when Lisa died and I heard it was a heart attack, I immediately thought of her Dad AND her grandma. Unfortunately you can be in the best shape physically and still die from a heart attack if it’s a genetic condition. I know because heart disease runs in my family too and my great grandmother, grandmother and my Mom and most of my aunts and uncles from my Moms side have ALL died from heart attacks. They were all aware and didn’t smoke or drink and tried to stay physically active until their dying day but to no avail. Clearly I already know how I will die So I guess the point I am making is that whether or not Lisa was using drugs when she passed likely wouldn’t have changed a thing. I miss her already. Rest in Peace Lisa Marie. Say Hi to your Dad for us☺️✌️✨❤️🙏🏻
She could have had a stroke from the diet meds and or any other meds combined if that's the case. Something just isn't right about this. Could anyone have given her something if she was already medicated n she wasn't aware and took it or maybe a shot 💉 given she wasn't aware of because of feeling bad. I'm 59 this doesn't sit right with me . Wonder who gave her anything before the Grammys? I don't think she would OD herself she loved her kids n new granddaughter I hope the Dr. Who did the autopsy checked for needlemarks n all meds . This happened way too fast from the 8 the till the 12 the look how sunken her face looked in 4 days check it
Dark dweebs often kill people from the spiritual realm attack style, heart attack is easy for them to hit someone with. People continue to ignore THE SPIRITUAL REALM is where THE WW3 is being fought... the west dropped their God relationship, so many are clueless
Great show Andrew. Just found you and am hooked. I am doing a deep dive into Scientology and am stunned that so many people have fallen for this crap. The more I read the more disgusted I get. You beat people up? You destroy families and worse you destroy people who don't hold your beliefs. Tom Cruise wants nothing to do with his only biological child because she's not part of this idiotic cult? Seriously?? It's just so pathetic and Tom and his "bestie" are arrogant bastards. Thanks for listening. Barb H.
We had an ad in Australia many years ago promoting lamb (as in the yummy roasted variety). The key "joke" was a woman being offered a date with Tom Cruise, but she turned it down for roast lamb. Maybe they could get Tom a sheep? (Wrote this before I scrolled through the comments. I see someone else also mentioned it. I'm leaving it up though!) Thanks guys!
I remember T.C. And Nicole’s divorce… I heard something about a prenuptial contract deadline approaching and T.C. filed for divorce right before his financial protections would have expired. Very calculated and blindsided Nicole.
@@roxiecariere5713 Totally blindsided. She'd just had a miscarriage, TC wasn't around and claimed the baby wasn't his... It wasn't her first miscarriage so they had taken genetic samples to see if there was a reason... They used those to prove it was his..... Which meant some of the "infidelity" clauses weren't activated.
I knew two people that knew Michael Jackson (they attended the same Kingdom Hall) - I asked her about Michael and she said, "oh, Michael hasn't been a Witness for years now - (I was told this 20 yrs. ago)
His mother was very dedication to the Jws dad was only interested in making money. He was I guitar player him self. but didn't make it big himself so he groomed his kids to be famous.and I think Michael lost his way and got mixed up with a few different religions but I belive dad messed him up big time even when he hit time with thriller
@@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens I think he also dabbled with karbala that's what mad Donna into nowadays or was and I think his older brother jamaine was into the nation of Islam and got them to offer Michael protection at some point but I don't know if he converted or not I know he got mixed up with the wrong people after he left quincy Jones mentor ship in the music industry sad but even he tried to warn people that thay where coming fir him as he was becoming to high profiled in that industry look at it now adays music's gone cr,p
Try not to be anxious Andrew, you are on the path of truth. It is the hero's path, it is never easy and there will be many naysayers along the way. You are the new citizen journalist and this position is key. Ppl may argue with you but we come here because we want the truth and we know we will get it here. You have no idea how important that is. Keep up the good work, this is worthy work, trust me. (Old Canadian grandmother here who believes in you)💖💖💖
I read somewhere that when Elvis died, family members questioned his autopsy report as being all substance abuse related because there was a history of heart issues in the family, but the people in charge of the autopsy refused to look more into it. His mom died young as well from a heart attack. I think Lisa unfortunately was born with that same heart issue and succumbed to it just like her dad did. I don't think Lisa's was "current" substance induced, although I'm sure her past substance abuse didn't help. It's not unusual for families to have heart issues in their bloodline and many members dying young from it. It is very sad and unfortunate.
I think it was a combination of the two, in the end. She was heartbroken over the death of her son only 2 years ago and the Elvis movie had just premiered a couple of days before her she sadly died. It's not hard to join the dots and think substances played a part. Poor Lisa, I just feel very sad about it.
The truth is probably a combination of both. Hopefully her daughters will be able to learn from history and not stress an already weak heart with substance abuse.
There may be a hereditary heart problem, but it’s well known that Gladys died of heart failure due to liver failure (alcohol related) and Elvis abused his body by way of polypharmacy for many years. As for Lisa… Lisa Marie Presley’s cause of death remains undetermined after an initial autopsy, according to the Los Angeles County coroner. “Presley was examined on Jan. 14 and the cause of death was deferred,” Sarah Ardalani, spokesperson with the LA County Dept. of Medical Examiner-Coroner, told CNN. “Deferred means that after an autopsy, a cause of death has not been determined and the medical examiner is requesting more investigation into the death, including additional studies. Once the tests/studies come back, the doctor evaluates the case again and makes the cause of death determination,” Ardalani explained.
So no one thinks foul play?? Just after a big movie miscavage threatening her to shut up or else her son n Lockwood she definable had words in her songs lip smacking svt ology. It's the house keeper. Lol. Yeah history of heart disease is hard they say Elvis first cousins did the thing n went against gods principles. DNA passing but now they say she was on diet pills Tragic cuz shilling stated she was ready to come out for 2nd album n new book But intersecting perscilla is coming put w book n her son is speaking n getting more attention Perscilla stating 800k a year luv your comments
I think the marriage between LMP and MJ was real. His persona in private was different from in public. In a book about MJ I read that they were very much into each other and he tried very hard with her (Lisa Marie also said that in an interview) but that people around him thought that he was more in love with the idea of her and he was very upset when he saw her marrying Nicolas Cage. Lisa Marie also said that they were a team in the beginning and they clicked right from the start. But that later on she made him choose between his addiction to painkillers and vampires (yes men) around him and her and he chose the first. She also said (to Oprah) that she thought he loved her to the extend that he was capable off.
lisa marie adored Michael! not many know anymore they were seeing each other since the end of 1992 long before the allegations, she left her first husband for Michael, and after the divorce they were still seeing each other until the end of 1999.
1. I think they loved each other and understood each other but more of a friendship. Maybe trying to help each other emotionally and trying to fall "in love".
No, they were madly in love. Saw each other for years even after the divorce. Friends around them all testified to their genuine love and respect for each other. Please don’t disrespect them and make up stories. Thanks.
I think that level of fame makes guys nearly undateable. There’s SO much entitlement & arrogance in that realm. They expect women to fall for their looks/money/talent/charm. But being one on one, no entourage…they’re all probably like awkward, prankypunky 19-year-olds. They’re SO used to not having to try with women. And yeah…many of these dudes aren’t straight. Narcissism, vanity, insecurity, immaturity? Ain’t enough money in the world to ever date Tom Cruise. Not that he’s asking, lol. 😂
@@courtneyawalsh Katie saw right through him, and ran, and I think she's 20 years younger.. There is definitely something wrong with him. I think the cult he's in has a lot to do with it.
💯 Nailed it, one on one is the pitts. They are performers who 24/7 focus on their career to reach the top. Thus the developmental dwarfism. I've met CEOs of global corps who are like little boys! Basically looking for surrogate mothers to play out their issues with. You'd have to enjoy upholding the public image too, because actual realtions with them is very weird.
That should say a lot about Michael Jackson.. who was the complete opposite. Every woman around him was in love with him.. from his maid to nurse to receptionist to make up artist. And Lisa Marie stayed in love even after they broke up. MJ was a really good person.
Oh Andrew! Don’t be stressed! You have a wonderful, thought provoking channel I can’t stop giggling at the thought of Lisa Marie and Tom Cruise as a couple!😂😂😂
I’ve actually been doing research on MJ for several years for a book. I was not a fan of his so I am not being naive when I say by all accounts he and Lisa Marie were very much in love, in fact they didn’t leave their honeymoon apartment in Trump tower in NY for a month. Story goes that after a big fight they broke up, but both really wanted the other one to apologize. And due to stubbornness and other issues like drugs, they did not reconcile. Shortly after the divorce he married a friend, Debbie Rowe. She was his surrogate for his first two children and since he was doing some business in the Middle East he was advised to marry the mother of his children. That really was a fake marriage. Lisa and others have said that MJ and Lisa actually continued to see each other for at least 2 years. In fact on the night of his wedding to Rowe Lisa Mary flew in to be with MJ as Rowe flew home. MJ was raised a strict Jehovah Witness, he never got to celebrate birthdays or Christmas. He almost cancelled the “Thriller” video at the last minute because the church people were mad about it. They finally came to an agreement that he would put a thing at the beginning of the vid saying he doesn’t believe in the occult. It sounds insane if you don’t know the back story. He basically left the church because he couldn’t reconcile it with his career ambitions. He celebrated his first Christmas in his 30s, thrown by Liz Taylor. He enjoyed it but felt really guilty the whole time because he still felt it was a sin. Jehovah witness, child superstar and an abusive father took their tole, making him a seeming strange man hooked on prescriptions drugs. But people who knew him personally all say he wasn’t weird, considering, and was super funny but really not a grown up in things other than his work. Most of his friends were old movies stars and kids because they were the only kind of people who didn’t ever want anything from him other than his friendship.
@@kkhera3730yes they have missed some bits out. But the points made are still valid as to why he was the way he was . Being a jw and leaving will fk you up so badly, there’s a lot of mental health issues . It’s unnatural but so is being a child star, the combination of the two must have been truly confusing, complicated and a bit of a head trip. Being a celeb and being a jw are diametrically opposed so the messages he was receiving as a kid would have been beyond conflicting
He was a keen business man also. And as for the JW, I remember reading in a book that he went door to door as a Jehova's wittness even when he was in the Thriller era still but than disguised himself 🤣
Lisa and Michael were on and off after their separation in 1996. There are pictures of them from 1997-1999 and even footage of a trip to South Africa they even made with
BTW, I like hearing about the behind the scenes. TH-cam seem to have gotten progressively worse in the censorship of content creators. They also seem to be faceless and unaccountable for their decisions. I’ve heard other creators say when they appeal their submission videos haven’t even been watched and the appeals are denied. I really feel for you because you do a great job and your channel is growing because of your hard work, great content and your personality. ❤️
It is very important that the viewers hear about the awful injustices done to content providers by TH-cam auto algorithms and the wholesale spying that is allowed to blackout, edit and senser videos of any user on YT.
A video of an interview with Sylvia Calhoun, an original Sea Org member. Interview in Dec, 2022. She was born in 1947. Apparently she's a public Scientologist. She was a little critical of LRH but talked of being on the ship as not unpleasant and actually fun!! Creepy. The site was called Theta N and popped into my Google feed yesterday. I watched about half of the 2 hour video. I'd love to know your thoughts.
The director of the drama school I went to was one of Nicole Kidman's acting teachers. One day (early 90s) she (the director) came into class and gave us a lecture about the level of dedication and single mindedness one needs to make it as an actor. She used Nicole as an example and told us that when Nicole was a student she said she was going to go to Hollywood, make it as an actress and marry Tom Cruise. Good on her for making all that happen but the reality of it all was obviously very different to her youthful, romantic notions of him.
Could it be that TC and DM are fully aware that scientology is a scam and they are living with each other as a couple swimming in money with pink bathrobes on. They seem like the biggest queens in the world. 💅 👑
Even if there are gays in Scientology they have to keep it a secret as the religion is very homaphobic....the founder Ron Hubbard found out his son was gay in the 60s and disowned him...
So sorry Andrew, you seem so sad and stressed out by recent YT shenanigans, really hope it all gets sorted out. Keep doing your great stuff! Did you give up on the reading of Harry's book? Couldn't read it, even when I got sent a free PDF of it!
Imagine being rich, handsome, one of the most famous men in the world with an army of people helping you but still cant get a girlfriend. That just blows my mind.
@@debbie991 you know what I’m getting at. 😂😂😂😂😂 It also makes me wonder about the real reason that Shelly was disappeared. She might’ve known too much.
Hi Andrew, I'm sorry you are going through such petty carry on. I really didn't know how TH-cam gave their tubers such a bad time. Keep up the good work.
Andrew, regarding TC taking Kate’s hand to ascend the stairs, William gave Tom a searing 🔥 look. And in a later clip, Tom was trying to edge his way to stand near them, William subtly blocked him. I saw that video of you reading The Squid. It was cute. I enjoy you and Aaron together. ❤ Love, Grandma
Once you have achieved the Award for Excellence, what more do you need to do? I mean where can you go after you've been given a shiny medal declaring that you portray the pinnacle of success in the field of excellence? I think Tom Cruise has a right to be proud just like Homer Simpson was when he was given his award for "Outstanding in the Field of Excellence!" Though I do think that Homer is taller than Mr Cruise
Sumner Redstone, the head of Paramount issued a statement warning Tom to knock it off about Scientology or to just behave himself because he was being a thorn in their side.
I always felt that Tom Cruise and the head of Scientology were a secret couple . Misgave saying something to make him believe he had to to advance in Scientology
I’m glad he clarified about Clearwater . From what I had read and seen, I was also under the impression that it was the scio equivalent of Salt Lake City for the Mormons
Tom Cruise definitely legitimised how important having a good PR person is. He almost ruined his career when he fired his old one and put his Scientologist sister in the job.
Why can’t Tom get and keep his own woman? Scientology doesn’t seem to be helping him in that area, though they say they are such a good thing for you life and success.
Just finishing this video now, glad that Aaron explained that Clearwater isn't a scientology city. Even though he seemed a little annoyed by the question, I had wondered the same thing. But now I understand and I'm glad that it's not like ..constant reminders.
Stop stressing about TH-cam-back up to rumble and know we who enjoy you will always have your back. You and A-Aron are a couple of my favorite guys to watch.
Could it be that the reason Priscilla Presley is going after Lisa’s estate or to be in control of it? It’s because that way Scientology will get a piece of it.
I felt so bad for Lisa Marie, she was a sad soul. She definitely was in love with MJ it was him that didn’t love her and used her to make a narrative. I’m sure it was one of her big heartbreaks. I can see her not liking Tom for obvious reasons and she wasn’t mesmerized by him by any means..
Yes Lisa & Michael loved each other. People on the outside don’t really know Michael Jackson & he’s been very misrepresented in the media as “bizarre”.. no matter what he does or how much sense it makes in the situation, even if he’s just standing there, the media will call it “bizarre”. This was mostly because of his vitiligo and the measures he had to take to prevent skin cancer (though he did end up getting skin cancer - Basal cell carcinoma in 1999-2000) like Umbrellas & masks and the way lupus affected his nose & the surgical repairs he needed.. these were all presented as voluntary whims by the media to make him look strange. If you ask his inner circle.. like Elizabeth Taylor who famously said “He’s the least weird man I know”.. she was exactly right. He was a down to earth regular guy & masculine in person. Lisa also said the public doesn’t see what he’s really like coz he likes to maintain an air of mystery. Lisa Marie is Elvis’s daughter.. her father is her standard, she herself said MJ reminded her of him. All his fans know MJ is a very warm gentleman, very sexy is person and yes, sexual.. passionate, caring and tender. He’s really gorgeous. MJ & Lisa were very happy together but clashed over kids. Lisa had people (Priscilla, DM) telling her MJ was using her, don’t give him kids, putting fears of legal battles in her mind, she became paranoid about the doctors in his entourage because of her childhood trauma with her father’s death, then there was MJ’s friend Debbie offering to carry to their babies if Lisa Marie didn’t wish to get pregnant.. it was all a bit much and Scientology was telling her that Michael was going to divorce her and she should file first. She later regretted this & felt duped by Scientology. Michael was the love of her life.. she was with him from 1992 to 2001. Lisa made it clear on both Diane Sawyer, Howard Stern and Oprah that their marriage was normal, consummated, very much sexually satisfying though it’s disgracefu she was asked & made to clarify such things. Also it’s been completely horrific the way Michael has been treated lately by ppl trying to make money. Lisa alway knew the allegations were BS. She was not the kind to cover up for anyone. Nor would any criminal with something to hide marry a woman like her. Both Michael & Lisa deserve respect and dignity. They have been mocked & misunderstood enough.
Not a Tom Cruise fan, but I think he was just trying to help her not to.slip on the steps. He also looked totally smitten with her, however. Very obvious
The TH-cam overlords are absolutely insane and out of control. If you guys put these videos on Rumble as well as TH-cam, I would HAPPILY follow you there
The question about LMP and MJ sets up a false dichotomy, they aren't mutually exclusive. It is possible for it to have been planned as an advantageous match AND for them to have truly loved for each other. The motive for arranging it seems believable, but I also intuitively feel that they had a genuine deep connection.
Lisa and Michael. It was true love.. he allowed her to be vulnerable and knew what she had to deal with in the world of fame. She also was adamant that he did not do what he was accused of. They (dark side) were punishing him for trying to expose them
Lisa adored her children. I don't think she would let her kids near Michael if the accusations were true. I remember a very graphic phrase she used to describe what she would do to Michael if she found out about him molesting a child.
Funny thought I just had, many moons ago, here in Australia there was an Ad. Aussies love their lamb roast, so the Ad was, Tom Cruise rings and asks the Actor out as Mums putting the roast on the table. The Girl says sorry but mums cooked a roast so no thanks. I've always thought hmmmm that Ad got things spot on. So all I see when I see Tom is, I want a lamb roast LoL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Any thoughts on Lisa Marie Presley?
I think she understood him because he grew up in a fish.bowl like her Micheal on other hand dnt know if he had the maturity for marriage he also.loved Elvis and he may have had designs on his catolauge like he went and bought Beatles catolauge Paul gave him. Advice about buying music rights as another way to make money and he went ok I'll buy Beatles he was fly as a bag of monkeys not stupid that way so possibly he wanted elvis music too who really knows think he trying to love her as much as he could Lisa said as much
Overall, I have nothing but great/solid sentiments, thoughts, perceptions, etc., of Lisa.
What I do want to touch on, though, is this “discussion” or “question” about whether Lisa and Mike’s marriage/relationship was genuine, romantic, sexual, etc.
I'm 34 *[35 in October],* so I witnessed the years that Mike and Lisa were together, first and foremost. There are numerous things I could get into, as far as who I am, the skillsets I have acquired, the experience I have obtained that goes well beyond my years, and more.
However, as someone who has been a survivor of just about anything one could think of *[numerous instances of SA, DV, physical, mental, and emotional abuse, trafficking, etc.],* overall for approximately 26 years now, including a vast degree of experience *[20+ years worth and counting]* with intense and emotionally grueling one-on-one therapy, working closely and intimately alongside *hundreds* of fellow survivors and victims *[both men/guys and women/girls of all different ages, sexual orientations, personalities, experiences, separate and connected struggles, diagnoses, backgrounds, walks of life, etc.]* in therapy organized in a group format, intensive dual-diagnoses-based inpatient and outpatient treatment programs/centers, support groups, meetings, educational classes/seminars, and so much more, for that merely covers the general gist of things associated with being a survivor, and not everything surrounding the fact that I am an addict in long-term recovery, first-hand experiences with the legal/justice system, struggling with an ED in the past, as well as self-harm, plus more than I could ever reasonably establish in this form, even though I never questioned Michael’s innocence regarding the false allegations made against him both in life and after his untimely passing, nor have I ever questioned the legitimacy of Mike and Lisa’s relationship/marriage, ultimately, I decided to go on an extensive and lengthy journey back in 2020 into anything and everything related to these things when I continued to have a particular 2019 hit piece presented to me over and over and over again in my TH-cam algorithm, despite not looking at anything that should push that into my “recommended feed.”
I am firmly and passionately against the notion that society should merely “believe all allegations made/believe all alleged victims-no matter what,” especially given my background and wide range of experience/s with practically everything of that nature, so I made sure to do my due diligence and look as far into anything and everything I could find *[there is a never-ending amount, mind you],* and boy did I find *a lot.*
To be as straightforward as possible, it is an *objective* and *objectively substantiated fact* that *A:* Michael is and always was entirely innocent of the despicable nonsense alleged against him, and *B:* Lisa and Mike’s relationship and marriage was nothing but completely authentic, genuine, romantic, sexual, and even long-lasting.
The two dated on and off for *years* after they divorced.
I always find it interesting that so many people have issues with seeing/establishing that Michael was nothing but a straight and red-blooded man who not only loved women but exuded blatant sexual energy and actions toward women, lol.
What I just described is in no way difficult to discern; People seem to have trouble differentiating between MJ, the persona/brand, and the man behind the mystery.
I don't mind going into more detail whatsoever; Still, everything that I person needs to discern and understand the truth is out there and easily accessible-you simply need to pay close attention to details. ✌️🏽🫶🏼
Good question on the Michael relationship Andrew. From the beginning I was onto option #2, more of a Raymond Burr Isabella Ward type marriage.
@@billg7205 lavender marriage that would have been called bk then like rock hudson phylis gates and Judy Garland and Vincent manelli I heard where Raymond Burr wasn't actually married to anyone that he invented a wife and child that died before he was famous so he had a story and a history that way if he was never seen with a woman it was likely assumed that he was a widower that never moved on sorry im facinated with old Hollywood it was a story I saw on a video documentary I came across not sure if it was true or not
@@Leahbumblebee872 Nope. Lisa loved him until she died. She followed him around the world for 5 years after they divorced and even after that she was still sending him begging letters and making friends with his family.
Most of her songs are about MJ. Just a Dream, Weary, Indifferent, Over Me, I Was Wrong, Now What and The Road Between.
The reason Lisa didn't want to be in the same room as Tom is because there's no room for his Ego and she knew that
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Lol. Truer words were never spoken!!! 🤭😅
HIS ego??? LIsa Maria ai a talentless, unattractive, drug addict who just happened to have a famous father so she has been ridding his coat tails all her life, just like her mother, Priscilla who never changed her last name so she could get a free ride too. Shameful - both of them!!!
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Well said, no one loves Tom more than Tom. 😉
That's true with all narcissusts - "the closer you are to the person the harder they are on you." People have no idea how abusive narcissists are behind closed doors.
I was married to a classic narcissist and wow!! Horrible people! Thank God I was perfect. Barb
Mike was raised Mormon
Especially if they are your rotten parents, a child can be maimed for life...their intended whole personality can be altered
Oh yes, I know. ❤
fyi It was Lisa Marie that sat with MJ's body in the time period before he was buried. Just her, no his family nor any friends. She wrote about this "window" of time, her place in it, and her love for Michael....it was very touching
RIP MS Presley.
Thank you 🙏 that was beautiful 🇭🇲
Yes, she came out with a beautiful statement when he died.
Yeah because she felt extremely guilty that she was not there for him in the last 7 years of his life.
She was such a sweet heart
It's understandable to not be over awed by anyone's star status or charisma when your dad was Elvis 😊xx
Anne-Louise Goldie Well said! Xx 💕
Maybe only Michael Jackson had the same star power and that's why they got along so well.
@@x3danimatos like most women, she grew up and married a man who reminded her of her father.
Elvis would have disliked MJ that I'm certain of.
@laythadrian5705 which one of theb4 husband was like her father.
I am so sorry to hear of your strikes, Andrew! Unfair! You have such great content. Free speech is threatened
It is unfair. Though there's never been free speech on social media what so ever. The market is completely unregulated and they can do whatever they feel like. They don't even have to have any reasons to ban folks.
Very true!
What Happened ? I was sick
That GREEDY WITCH Pricilla trying to steal her Daughter’s Estate. Of course Elvis DETESTED Scientology and so did his Daughter. I hope her relationship will a Horrible CULT will go against her.
TH-cam is a private company and they have Terms of Service rules you agree to. It's the same with every social media platform. Copyright infringment is part of the TOS violations. It's the rules unfortunately.
I think Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley are the only ones who know for certain why they married and that it’s none of our business. They took their reasons to their graves and we need to concentrate on OUR OWN lives and let them Rest In Peace.
Um.. she said it many times.. they were in love., she was offended that anyone would think she would marry for any other reason than that
LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
What are you hiding karenlee?
💯 a big 1 for Lisa Marie and Michael! She stated it over and over. It’s a known fact she did love him and it was a real marriage in every sense of the word.
1. I didn't believe they were a real couple until I heard Lisa Presley speak of how much she loved him. She spoke her truth and didn't care what the public thought.
Lisa Marie Presley had much more intellect than to be matched with someone like Tom Cruise who has proven to the world that he has an inability to love in a physical and emotional way 👍
Let's back up a little bit... this woman married Michael Jackson. Yes, it's sad that she died, but she abused drugs. Her whole life, she was a Scientologist, and as I mentioned, she married Michael Jackson. So her intellect to stay away with Tom Cruise doesn't really translate into much more than not going near Tom Cruise.
I didn't know her or really anything about her. She seems to be a private person, as much as she could be.
She seemed to have a strong b.s. monitor. Sadly, not so much for scientology. Or maybe her mother had a strong influence with that.
@@martina5296 Also, she seems to me not to be easily impressed by anything or anyone.
She was Elvis' daughter and understood that only someone like Michael Jackson could be closed to a god (in a celebrity power way).
So know we compare intellect with feelings ? She was an addict ,and that got in the way of her family life too . Apples and oranges 😂
I think Lisa-Marie and MJ believed they loved eachother, but not sure if their understanding of love, given their 'life experience', is the same as what most people would understand it to be. I imagine they both had similar longings, experience and emptiness that noone else could understand, that gave them a sense of safety and security being with the other.
You put my thoughts into words exactly. I believe they had a very deep understanding for each other and that bonded them for life.
Trauma bonding
Lisa never ever said a word against MJ after his death but only spoke well of him
Defo Andrew and Aarron smith Levin and Andrew and Shaun attwood too it's great when Aaron quotes that he wants to troll the
F🤬ck out of David mascavage if anyone gonna bring him down it's Aaron he ain't scared of them 😄😂 and Andrew and his edge hogs can help hee hee😄
@@janetcoombes8483 nope never she kept quiet for years just mentioned she fell apart after the divorce she got very I'll with the stress only time I saw her so thin till golden globes but she was more open after his death and said she understood alot more about him afterwards but nu a mile away he was going same way as her father he asked her once do u think I'll end up like Elvis and she said he needed to get rid of the vampires think it was her term of yes man hangers on like most of Elvis crew apart from a few like Jerry schilling 8 think she saw Micheal go down that way along time ago and she knew he Wasn't going to listen she let him go and I dnt blame her she knew that was on cards for him even when he seemed to be doing better she could tell he was out his face our hyper on benzidine and in end on propafol which even hospitals dnt like using anymore his intolerance must have been through the roof for that kind of stuff god knows how doc Conrad Murray coul get away with taking it out a hospital doctor feel goods getting paid alot of extra money houses carts so Elvis and Micheal were givin what they wanted instead of what they really needed there no longer Doctor conflict of interest there just glorified drug dealers several on pay roll probably it still going on it tore her up inside seeing history repeat it self then Benjamin she had a hard life I think she was only truly happy with her kids and being alone with her daddy wen she was I really young feel for her only family I have is my son it would distroy me to if I lost him 😢
She has spoken about her love for MJ, it was the yes people surrounding him she couldn't deal with.
she has, and very sweetly too.
I still believe the kids
But I would bet that his love for her dipended in part on awe for her father
@@llamamama2910 what kids? Lisa's kids had only good things to say about MJ. If you talk about Chandler you don't even know what that massive liar drivelled about MJ. The story he said would mean that within 24 hours, while being on libido oppressing opioids MJ did all these: masturbate multiple time, do oral on chandler, masturbated Chandler sex times. If you believe that you may very well believe in unicorns too
@@llamamama2910 Lisa's kids Ben and Riley couldn't be more positive about MJ. MJ treated all kids like he treated them. Like he treated his own
I thought everybody hated Tom Cruise. I refuse to watch any of his movies. Not one. You were an excellent judge of his character, Lisa Marie. RIP.
Me too, I don't know when or why but I don't watch Cruise movies and I haven't for a long time.
@@JerseyLynne Maybe because he treated Nicole Kidman so badly when he divorced her? At the time California law said at 10 years of marriage, if a divorce occurred, assets were split 50/50. Cruise filed for divorce sometime during their 9th year of marriage, so he wouldn't have to split their assets. The court recognized what he was doing and I believe he had to pay her 50% anyway. But that's when I stopped liking him.
nice to see you 2 together! love watching both of you! thank you for delivering the TRUTH!!! ✨️❤️
Lisa Marie definitely loved Michael Jackson. I follow her on social media. Up until her death, she was still following pages about MJ. She even LIKED MJ posts even after the death of her son. On Billy Corgan's podcast, he did confirm that Lisa Marie told him that she really did love MJ.
She also unfollowed Oprah after Leaving Neverland. Lisa Marie had no doubt about Michael Jackson. No one else should either, coz she was not the woman to marry if you had something to hide. MJ had nothing to hide.
Yeah she sure did. In 2020 after her son’s death she was reading and liking posts on Instagram MJ fan pages.. I was sort of shocked by that.
1. They were in love. But he wanted kids right away and her having two younger ones already didn’t want a couple more right away. Scientology actually had a lot to do with their breakdown using the same methods as Nicole and Tom. She went on tours with him and they discussed getting re-married for four years after the divorce. They always had very strong feelings towards each other and she remained close to his family.
Her kids are considered cousins by the Jackson kids. She even had Michael’s nephew Austin Brown over for her final thanksgiving and Birthday
Lisa Marie was interviewed several times, including Oprah, where she was very straightforward about loving Michael Jackson. The relationship was physical, etc. She goes into raw detail about their feelings for each other that don’t in any way sound contrived. She is quite honest about really trying to make it work. Two thoughts on MJ’s trip to the LRH museum. While I believe Mike Rinder’s account, the idea that there was NO press given the way the man was always swarmed . . . And, as you said, MJ was raised in a devout Jeh Witness family. His mother knocked on doors until her death. MJ may or may not have been practicing the faith, but the idea that his mother would learn that he was exploring another church would be something he would NEVER want her to hear-hence maybe some of his paranoia during the Scientology tour.
Yeah as an exjw myself, there’s no way he would have contemplated Scientology for many reasons, same deal with Catholicism too. Some exjws enter mainstream Christianity after they leave, but usually real low control religions . I’ve heard of exjws becoming Mormons on rare occasions, and also going into Buddhism. Most tend to become agnostic or atheists
Mrs Jackson is still alive.
Michael left JW but always had the utmost respect for his mother and her wishes.
Once you leave a cult, even if you have no recovery from it, more than likely you smell another one a mile away. He was probably running for hills saying not this crap again. I dont even think he was worried what his parents thought at that point. You go into self protection mode.
@@annamariam1077 Yes, thank you for that correction. I don’t know why I was thinking she’d passed.
I thought maybe the museum was really dull for him and he was trying to get out of it by using the paps !
Watching replay!! Yes!! I will support Dodge instead of Tony for the trial!! Just the thing needed. Real journalism❤
Why are people so precious that you cannot say the truth anymore. You should be able to say anything on your channel as long as you can justify it. Love you guys. Keep up the great work.
Right behind you michelle. 👍✌🍀🌼
Just an excuse for TH-cam not to pay creators.
I have never liked Tom Cruise and now have so many more reasons why my belief is correct. He has a very large ego and wants people to know it. I don't watch any of his films ever. This was an interesting discussion Aaron and Andrew. Really enjoyed it. May Lisa Marie rest in peace. Lisa definitely loved Michael Jackson.
SO TRUE❣️ 💯
Thank you for your time, Andrew and Aaron. It’s always fun to see you two get together for a chat.
Honestly, when I heard Lisa Marie passed the first thing that popped into my head was, I wonder if the cult did something. Still wouldn't surprise me.
Andrew I hate that you are having a hard time with TH-cam! I could listen to you talk all day !🇺🇸❤️🇬🇧
I've personally heard senior scio staffers speak disparagingly about TC. One said she didn't like him and LOVED John Travolta. The other felt he black PR'd the 'church' with his couch jumping etc... and said he really needed a re-tread on his PR execution. If any other Celeb did that shit, they'd be thrown into Ethics. But not dear leader's 'Bestie'! She was PISSED at him. I also had to deal with a lot of public saying he was nuts and gives Scio a bad reputation. If you look closely - for a flash nano-second you see Princess Catherine wince/flinch when TC with his 'no boundary recognition' grabbed her hand. Of COURSE, she didn't want to make a public scene and bring it to the world's attention, so she HAD to let the little weasel have his way. How DARE he put her in that position!! I'm sure it would have been a topic of discussion among the Royals afterward. She handled it well - even though she had no choice PR wise. Most celebs don't like TC, most scio staff don't either, and even scio public are embarrassed about him - for obvious reasons.
Yep, I caught that. LOVE how she switched her clutch to her other hand.
Couch jumping is not a big deal . That was crap . His behavior with his weird religion is another story
Wonderful comment 👍🇭🇲
How dare he insult a a Royal ? Seems like they do a great job of embarrassing themselves 😂
@@johngnipper8768 exactly, as this deference to this fantasy of elevated status is such crap.
Really enjoyed this chat Between you two.
I have to say that when Lisa died and I heard it was a heart attack, I immediately thought of her Dad AND her grandma. Unfortunately you can be in the best shape physically and still die from a heart attack if it’s a genetic condition. I know because heart disease runs in my family too and my great grandmother, grandmother and my Mom and most of my aunts and uncles from my Moms side have ALL died from heart attacks. They were all aware and didn’t smoke or drink and tried to stay physically active until their dying day but to no avail. Clearly I already know how I will die
So I guess the point I am making is that whether or not Lisa was using drugs when she passed likely wouldn’t have changed a thing. I miss her already. Rest in Peace Lisa Marie. Say Hi to your Dad for us☺️✌️✨❤️🙏🏻
The problem is that, depending on the type, drugs can slow down the heart and respiratory system to the point of cardiac arrest resulting in death.
Out dig deep even if another autopsy is needed.
She could have had a stroke from the diet meds and or any other meds combined if that's the case. Something just isn't right about this. Could anyone have given her something if she was already medicated n she wasn't aware and took it or maybe a shot 💉 given she wasn't aware of because of feeling bad. I'm 59 this doesn't sit right with me . Wonder who gave her anything before the Grammys? I don't think she would OD herself she loved her kids n new granddaughter I hope the Dr. Who did the autopsy checked for needlemarks n all meds . This happened way too fast from the 8 the till the 12 the look how sunken her face looked in 4 days check it
Just wait until the toxicology results come back! 😂😂😂
Dark dweebs often kill people from the spiritual realm attack style, heart attack is easy for them to hit someone with.
People continue to ignore THE SPIRITUAL REALM is where THE WW3 is being fought... the west dropped their God relationship, so many are clueless
Great show Andrew. Just found you and am hooked. I am doing a deep dive into Scientology and am stunned that so many people have fallen for this crap. The more I read the more disgusted I get. You beat people up? You destroy families and worse you destroy people who don't hold your beliefs. Tom Cruise wants nothing to do with his only biological child because she's not part of this idiotic cult? Seriously?? It's just so pathetic and Tom and his "bestie" are arrogant bastards. Thanks for listening. Barb H.
We had an ad in Australia many years ago promoting lamb (as in the yummy roasted variety). The key "joke" was a woman being offered a date with Tom Cruise, but she turned it down for roast lamb. Maybe they could get Tom a sheep? (Wrote this before I scrolled through the comments. I see someone else also mentioned it. I'm leaving it up though!) Thanks guys!
I remember T.C. And Nicole’s divorce… I heard something about a prenuptial contract deadline approaching and T.C. filed for divorce right before his financial protections would have expired. Very calculated and blindsided Nicole.
She was blindsided‼️😱
@@roxiecariere5713 Totally blindsided. She'd just had a miscarriage, TC wasn't around and claimed the baby wasn't his... It wasn't her first miscarriage so they had taken genetic samples to see if there was a reason... They used those to prove it was his..... Which meant some of the "infidelity" clauses weren't activated.
I knew two people that knew Michael Jackson (they attended the same Kingdom Hall) - I asked her about Michael and she said, "oh, Michael hasn't been a Witness for years now - (I was told this 20 yrs. ago)
His mother was very dedication to the Jws dad was only interested in making money.
He was I guitar player him self.
but didn't make it big himself so he groomed his kids to be famous.and I think Michael lost his way and got mixed up with a few different religions but I belive dad messed him up big time even when he hit time with thriller
He quit in the 80's and converted to Islam.
@@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens I think he also dabbled with karbala that's what mad Donna into nowadays or was and I think his older brother jamaine was into the nation of Islam and got them to offer Michael protection at some point but I don't know if he converted or not I know he got mixed up with the wrong people after he left quincy Jones mentor ship in the music industry sad but even he tried to warn people that thay where coming fir him as he was becoming to high profiled in that industry look at it now adays music's gone cr,p
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Yeah, I was friends with some JW's in the mid 90s and they loved to talk about celebrity JWs and never mentioned Michael Jackson.
Try not to be anxious Andrew, you are on the path of truth. It is the hero's path, it is never easy and there will be many naysayers along the way. You are the new citizen journalist and this position is key. Ppl may argue with you but we come here because we want the truth and we know we will get it here. You have no idea how important that is. Keep up the good work, this is worthy work, trust me. (Old Canadian grandmother here who believes in you)💖💖💖
I read somewhere that when Elvis died, family members questioned his autopsy report as being all substance abuse related because there was a history of heart issues in the family, but the people in charge of the autopsy refused to look more into it. His mom died young as well from a heart attack. I think Lisa unfortunately was born with that same heart issue and succumbed to it just like her dad did. I don't think Lisa's was "current" substance induced, although I'm sure her past substance abuse didn't help. It's not unusual for families to have heart issues in their bloodline and many members dying young from it. It is very sad and unfortunate.
I think it was a combination of the two, in the end. She was heartbroken over the death of her son only 2 years ago and the Elvis movie had just premiered a couple of days before her she sadly died. It's not hard to join the dots and think substances played a part. Poor Lisa, I just feel very sad about it.
The truth is probably a combination of both. Hopefully her daughters will be able to learn from history and not stress an already weak heart with substance abuse.
Elvis father put a 50 year ban on autopsy coming out 2027. Seriously???
There may be a hereditary heart problem, but it’s well known that Gladys died of heart failure due to liver failure (alcohol related) and Elvis abused his body by way of polypharmacy for many years. As for Lisa…
Lisa Marie Presley’s cause of death remains undetermined after an initial autopsy, according to the Los Angeles County coroner. “Presley was examined on Jan. 14 and the cause of death was deferred,” Sarah Ardalani, spokesperson with the LA County Dept. of Medical Examiner-Coroner, told CNN.
“Deferred means that after an autopsy, a cause of death has not been determined and the medical examiner is requesting more investigation into the death, including additional studies. Once the tests/studies come back, the doctor evaluates the case again and makes the cause of death determination,” Ardalani explained.
So no one thinks foul play?? Just after a big movie miscavage threatening her to shut up or else her son n Lockwood she definable had words in her songs lip smacking svt ology.
It's the house keeper. Lol. Yeah history of heart disease is hard they say Elvis first cousins did the thing n went against gods principles. DNA passing but now they say she was on diet pills
Tragic cuz shilling stated she was ready to come out for 2nd album n new book
But intersecting perscilla is coming put w book n her son is speaking n getting more attention
Perscilla stating 800k a year luv your comments
I think the marriage between LMP and MJ was real. His persona in private was different from in public. In a book about MJ I read that they were very much into each other and he tried very hard with her (Lisa Marie also said that in an interview) but that people around him thought that he was more in love with the idea of her and he was very upset when he saw her marrying Nicolas Cage. Lisa Marie also said that they were a team in the beginning and they clicked right from the start. But that later on she made him choose between his addiction to painkillers and vampires (yes men) around him and her and he chose the first. She also said (to Oprah) that she thought he loved her to the extend that he was capable off.
It was absolutely real. People will do and say anything to smear them, even in death. Especially Michael.
Spot on.
A relative of mine was a family doctor said that he was not religious, nor would talk about it.
@@fnjsaunders A family doctor of his?
Which is completely ironic since she turned out to be an addict herself.
lisa marie adored Michael! not many know anymore they were seeing each other since the end of 1992 long before the allegations, she left her first husband for Michael, and after the divorce they were still seeing each other until the end of 1999.
Doing what I can to help Andrew. I always appreciate your content. Thank you for all your time and energy you invest in your channel 💜
1. I think they loved each other and understood each other but more of a friendship. Maybe trying to help each other emotionally and trying to fall "in love".
No, they were madly in love. Saw each other for years even after the divorce. Friends around them all testified to their genuine love and respect for each other. Please don’t disrespect them and make up stories. Thanks.
@@annamariam1077 no they were not in love it was a sham they were not even legally married
@@leeannabesser1374 lmao
Andrew, I love your truth show. Yourself and Aaron are two of my favourite podcasts to watch. Keep THE truth coming. Love and light from Scotland
I think that level of fame makes guys nearly undateable. There’s SO much entitlement & arrogance in that realm. They expect women to fall for their looks/money/talent/charm. But being one on one, no entourage…they’re all probably like awkward, prankypunky 19-year-olds. They’re SO used to not having to try with women. And yeah…many of these dudes aren’t straight. Narcissism, vanity, insecurity, immaturity? Ain’t enough money in the world to ever date Tom Cruise. Not that he’s asking, lol. 😂
The way he treats people he considers beneath him? Unimpressive & downright abusive.
This is why they often date women young enough to be their daughters. Women their own age see through them. Their egos cannot take that.
@@courtneyawalsh Katie saw right through him, and ran, and I think she's 20 years younger.. There is definitely something wrong with him. I think the cult he's in has a lot to do with it.
💯 Nailed it, one on one is the pitts. They are performers who 24/7 focus on their career to reach the top. Thus the developmental dwarfism. I've met CEOs of global corps who are like little boys! Basically looking for surrogate mothers to play out their issues with. You'd have to enjoy upholding the public image too, because actual realtions with them is very weird.
That should say a lot about Michael Jackson.. who was the complete opposite. Every woman around him was in love with him.. from his maid to nurse to receptionist to make up artist. And Lisa Marie stayed in love even after they broke up. MJ was a really good person.
Oh Andrew! Don’t be stressed! You have a wonderful, thought provoking channel
I can’t stop giggling at the thought of Lisa Marie and Tom Cruise as a couple!😂😂😂
Totally. I gotta think it would be about five minutes before she would tell him he’s full of shit.
She was far too strong for Tom.
I’ve actually been doing research on MJ for several years for a book. I was not a fan of his so I am not being naive when I say by all accounts he and Lisa Marie were very much in love, in fact they didn’t leave their honeymoon apartment in Trump tower in NY for a month. Story goes that after a big fight they broke up, but both really wanted the other one to apologize. And due to stubbornness and other issues like drugs, they did not reconcile.
Shortly after the divorce he married a friend, Debbie Rowe. She was his surrogate for his first two children and since he was doing some business in the Middle East he was advised to marry the mother of his children. That really was a fake marriage. Lisa and others have said that MJ and Lisa actually continued to see each other for at least 2 years. In fact on the night of his wedding to Rowe Lisa Mary flew in to be with MJ as Rowe flew home.
MJ was raised a strict Jehovah Witness, he never got to celebrate birthdays or Christmas. He almost cancelled the “Thriller” video at the last minute because the church people were mad about it. They finally came to an agreement that he would put a thing at the beginning of the vid saying he doesn’t believe in the occult. It sounds insane if you don’t know the back story. He basically left the church because he couldn’t reconcile it with his career ambitions. He celebrated his first Christmas in his 30s, thrown by Liz Taylor. He enjoyed it but felt really guilty the whole time because he still felt it was a sin.
Jehovah witness, child superstar and an abusive father took their tole, making him a seeming strange man hooked on prescriptions drugs. But people who knew him personally all say he wasn’t weird, considering, and was super funny but really not a grown up in things other than his work. Most of his friends were old movies stars and kids because they were the only kind of people who didn’t ever want anything from him other than his friendship.
Errrrr, aren't you missing some major issues? Good luck tho 👍
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@@kkhera3730yes they have missed some bits out. But the points made are still valid as to why he was the way he was . Being a jw and leaving will fk you up so badly, there’s a lot of mental health issues . It’s unnatural but so is being a child star, the combination of the two must have been truly confusing, complicated and a bit of a head trip. Being a celeb and being a jw are diametrically opposed so the messages he was receiving as a kid would have been beyond conflicting
He was a keen business man also. And as for the JW, I remember reading in a book that he went door to door as a Jehova's wittness even when he was in the Thriller era still but than disguised himself 🤣
Lisa and Michael were on and off after their separation in 1996. There are pictures of them from 1997-1999 and even footage of a trip to South Africa they even made with
BTW, I like hearing about the behind the scenes. TH-cam seem to have gotten progressively worse in the censorship of content creators. They also seem to be faceless and unaccountable for their decisions. I’ve heard other creators say when they appeal their submission videos haven’t even been watched and the appeals are denied.
I really feel for you because you do a great job and your channel is growing because of your hard work, great content and your personality. ❤️
Yes, Andrew, I very much like hearing about what is going on in you tube.
It is very important that the viewers hear about the awful injustices done to content providers by TH-cam auto algorithms and the wholesale spying that is allowed to blackout, edit and senser videos of any user on YT.
Two of my favorite TH-camrs in one video totally made my day! 💗
She totally loved Michael Jackson that is 100% Fact 🙂
I subscribed to Dodge last night, after watching your interview of him, Aaron.
"R.I.P. Beautiful, Lisa Marie Presley ❤️"
A video of an interview with Sylvia Calhoun, an original Sea Org member. Interview in Dec, 2022. She was born in 1947. Apparently she's a public Scientologist. She was a little critical of LRH but talked of being on the ship as not unpleasant and actually fun!! Creepy. The site was called Theta N and popped into my Google feed yesterday. I watched about half of the 2 hour video. I'd love to know your thoughts.
The director of the drama school I went to was one of Nicole Kidman's acting teachers. One day (early 90s) she (the director) came into class and gave us a lecture about the level of dedication and single mindedness one needs to make it as an actor. She used Nicole as an example and told us that when Nicole was a student she said she was going to go to Hollywood, make it as an actress and marry Tom Cruise. Good on her for making all that happen but the reality of it all was obviously very different to her youthful, romantic notions of him.
No teacher would support a student in saying that their ambition was to marry a man who was already married....
I am sure that was a big mistake that she found out 😊 later & did everything to get out of that marriage .
Could it be that TC and DM are fully aware that scientology is a scam and they are living with each other as a couple swimming in money with pink bathrobes on. They seem like the biggest queens in the world. 💅 👑
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Even if there are gays in Scientology they have to keep it a secret as the religion is very homaphobic....the founder Ron Hubbard found out his son was gay in the 60s and disowned him...
So sorry Andrew, you seem so sad and stressed out by recent YT shenanigans, really hope it all gets sorted out. Keep doing your great stuff! Did you give up on the reading of Harry's book? Couldn't read it, even when I got sent a free PDF of it!
Imagine being rich, handsome, one of the most famous men in the world with an army of people helping you but still cant get a girlfriend. That just blows my mind.
He's not handsome
@@crankiemanx8423 He used to be, like 30 years ago
@@crankiemanx8423 I hope you look that good when you’re 61 .
@@deckofcards87 I bet he wishes he looks as good as Tom does when he’s 61 .
@@carlturner6625 I was only referring to him not being handsome,I wasn't referring to how good or bad he looks for his age
" Tom, it's time to come out of the closet" LOL , love you guys :)
22:36 ask Ryan Seacrest LOL
Hear hear 👍
And Davy. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@sarathurston3318 LMAO.. No there's nothing wrong with that at all hahaha
@@debbie991 you know what I’m getting at. 😂😂😂😂😂
It also makes me wonder about the real reason that Shelly was disappeared. She might’ve known too much.
Hi Andrew, I'm sorry you are going through such petty carry on. I really didn't know how TH-cam gave their tubers such a bad time. Keep up the good work.
Andrew, regarding TC taking Kate’s hand to ascend the stairs, William gave Tom a searing 🔥 look. And in a later clip, Tom was trying to edge his way to stand near them, William subtly blocked him.
I saw that video of you reading The Squid. It was cute.
I enjoy you and Aaron together. ❤
Love, Grandma
What a bummer, sorry you’re dealing with this!
Lisa-Marie's - RIP - reaction to Tiny Tom seems perfectly normal.
Andrew don't be stressed!! You are a natural at this!
I really appreciate the explanation about demonetization and what goes on behind the scenes.
Once you have achieved the Award for Excellence, what more do you need to do? I mean where can you go after you've been given a shiny medal declaring that you portray the pinnacle of success in the field of excellence? I think Tom Cruise has a right to be proud just like Homer Simpson was when he was given his award for "Outstanding in the Field of Excellence!" Though I do think that Homer is taller than Mr Cruise
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Sumner Redstone, the head of Paramount issued a statement warning Tom to knock it off about Scientology or to just behave himself because he was being a thorn in their side.
I always felt that Tom Cruise and the head of Scientology were a secret couple . Misgave saying something to make him believe he had to to advance in Scientology
I understood they Are a couple _miscavige and cruz.
Watched this a couple of days ago, here for solidarity. I'm fed up with TH-cam censorship.
Smart women she changed the hand she was carrying her bag - princess Catherine made it no issue ❤
Lisa did not like that church, she called it very dark, and she left it.
I’m glad he clarified about Clearwater . From what I had read and seen, I was also under the impression that it was the scio equivalent of Salt Lake City for the Mormons
1. Lisa Marie stated over and over that their marriage was real. Even when she was angry at him in interviews before he died.
Tom Cruise definitely legitimised how important having a good PR person is. He almost ruined his career when he fired his old one and put his Scientologist sister in the job.
Playing it on my samsung, my ipad and pc. Keep the good work and we will be supporting you, anyway we can
I believe 1 there was real love. I do… she always said he was a different person when he was alone with her then the public persona.
💯 they were in love for many years.
I do like hearing about things behind the scenes. Sorry you have to deal with these things.
Why can’t Tom get and keep his own woman? Scientology doesn’t seem to be helping him in that area, though they say they are such a good thing for you life and success.
The marriage between lmp and mj was real. Their marriage lasted 2 years but the relationship lasted 10 years
You guys are a great team.
Just finishing this video now, glad that Aaron explained that Clearwater isn't a scientology city. Even though he seemed a little annoyed by the question, I had wondered the same thing. But now I understand and I'm glad that it's not like ..constant reminders.
1 . absolutely lisa and michael were genuine and loved eachother. They had a lot in common. Michael really loved her
Stop stressing about TH-cam-back up to rumble and know we who enjoy you will always have your back. You and A-Aron are a couple of my favorite guys to watch.
Could it be that the reason Priscilla Presley is going after Lisa’s estate or to be in control of it? It’s because that way Scientology will get a piece of it.
I agree! One day, Graceland will be run by the Scientologists.
I would not be at all surprised to hear that this is true
Rewatching!!! Good luck, always find your content very informative
The more important they think they are? The more impotent they usually really are. Overcompensation. 😂
I think she genuinely loved Jackson but Scientology is really evil and MJ felt it. He even told Lisa that they were going to get rid of him
Well said Aaron. Clearwater is a beautiful place to live!
Thank you Andrew.I learn so much about crazy cults from this channel.
Why on earth was this demonitized? Watched it again. Hope that helps!!
Loved this vid - Andrew’s innocence around Tampa Brad and earring hunting was …gold!!! 😅😅😅
I’m so happy for Dodge! I subscribed to his channel.
I felt so bad for Lisa Marie, she was a sad soul. She definitely was in love with MJ it was him that didn’t love her and used her to make a narrative. I’m sure it was one of her big heartbreaks. I can see her not liking Tom for obvious reasons and she wasn’t mesmerized by him by any means..
Blessings And Truth For All.
Yes Lisa & Michael loved each other. People on the outside don’t really know Michael Jackson & he’s been very misrepresented in the media as “bizarre”.. no matter what he does or how much sense it makes in the situation, even if he’s just standing there, the media will call it “bizarre”. This was mostly because of his vitiligo and the measures he had to take to prevent skin cancer (though he did end up getting skin cancer - Basal cell carcinoma in 1999-2000) like Umbrellas & masks and the way lupus affected his nose & the surgical repairs he needed.. these were all presented as voluntary whims by the media to make him look strange. If you ask his inner circle.. like Elizabeth Taylor who famously said “He’s the least weird man I know”.. she was exactly right. He was a down to earth regular guy & masculine in person. Lisa also said the public doesn’t see what he’s really like coz he likes to maintain an air of mystery. Lisa Marie is Elvis’s daughter.. her father is her standard, she herself said MJ reminded her of him. All his fans know MJ is a very warm gentleman, very sexy is person and yes, sexual.. passionate, caring and tender. He’s really gorgeous. MJ & Lisa were very happy together but clashed over kids. Lisa had people (Priscilla, DM) telling her MJ was using her, don’t give him kids, putting fears of legal battles in her mind, she became paranoid about the doctors in his entourage because of her childhood trauma with her father’s death, then there was MJ’s friend Debbie offering to carry to their babies if Lisa Marie didn’t wish to get pregnant.. it was all a bit much and Scientology was telling her that Michael was going to divorce her and she should file first. She later regretted this & felt duped by Scientology. Michael was the love of her life.. she was with him from 1992 to 2001. Lisa made it clear on both Diane Sawyer, Howard Stern and Oprah that their marriage was normal, consummated, very much sexually satisfying though it’s disgracefu she was asked & made to clarify such things. Also it’s been completely horrific the way Michael has been treated lately by ppl trying to make money. Lisa alway knew the allegations were BS. She was not the kind to cover up for anyone. Nor would any criminal with something to hide marry a woman like her. Both Michael & Lisa deserve respect and dignity. They have been mocked & misunderstood enough.
Michael Jackson was _masculine_ in person??
Lisa’s cause of death still hasn’t been released by the coroner. What do you think caused her death?
Can you just BELIEVE how we must watch what we say now??????
Not a Tom Cruise fan, but I think he was just trying to help her not to.slip on the steps. He also looked totally smitten with her, however. Very obvious
Never would I ever think Lisa Marie Presley and Tom Cruise could EVER be in a relationship
The TH-cam overlords are absolutely insane and out of control. If you guys put these videos on Rumble as well as TH-cam, I would HAPPILY follow you there
Andrews videos are on Rumble
Glad to hear that this vid got sorted. Will watch twice to make up for it getting struck the first time 🎉
thank you!!
You two are great together…. Glad your winning Andrew…. Hang in there…. Your channel is great….you tube needs to calm the f##k down…. Oops…. Bad me…👍👍
Always great work!
The question about LMP and MJ sets up a false dichotomy, they aren't mutually exclusive. It is possible for it to have been planned as an advantageous match AND for them to have truly loved for each other. The motive for arranging it seems believable, but I also intuitively feel that they had a genuine deep connection.
Seriously not again I'll watch this as much as I can
Lisa and Michael. It was true love.. he allowed her to be vulnerable and knew what she had to deal with in the world of fame.
She also was adamant that he did not do what he was accused of. They (dark side) were punishing him for trying to expose them
Two pees and all that. I think they were too.
Lisa adored her children. I don't think she would let her kids near Michael if the accusations were true. I remember a very graphic phrase she used to describe what she would do to Michael if she found out about him molesting a child.
Definitely go with Aaron to the Tampa org!! I'd give my left leg to go with you.
Funny thought I just had, many moons ago, here in Australia there was an Ad. Aussies love their lamb roast, so the Ad was, Tom Cruise rings and asks the Actor out as Mums putting the roast on the table. The Girl says sorry but mums cooked a roast so no thanks. I've always thought hmmmm that Ad got things spot on. So all I see when I see Tom is, I want a lamb roast LoL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yup I remember those ads, they were good! 🤣
I wrote something similar and then read your post. STILL love lamb!)
@@Lisa-x3n5x Absolutely Lamb all the way LoL 🤣