The concept of this video is spot on! Motorcycling is about the ride, a certain rush you get when you feel the wind, seeing breathtaking scenery. Enjoying the experience of riding with others, if lucky. Who cares what you straddle...? Enjoy your wind therapy Brothers & Sisters, Ride!
I love my cross country. Fits me great, destroys Harley’s at the race line and it’s never let me down (been to Mexico twice and 10000 miles in USA) (I’m in Canada). I think I’m going to keep it forever.
I bought a brand new '16 Vegas after they pulled the plug so i got a great deal, modded it the way I wanted - and I'm at the point where in Sweden I could make a profit at resale already. However it's still my dream bike and probably always will be - and the personal value it holds will always be greater than any possible future collectors market can ever throw at me. I'll ride it until the 106 stops beating, and at that point I'll probably make some sort of display of it in my living room. Thank you Craig for all the videos you make, even this 24-y/o kid across the pond has learned a great deal from you - and I hope you keep doing it seeing as it always makes the riding season feel that much closer whenever you upload.
It sounds like the market in Sweden is a little stronger than here in the US. You have the right idea, ride the bike, enjoy it don't worry about all this stuff. Thanks for watching and for the kind comments!
I do love my Victory's, i have a 2007 Victory Jackpot (Ness edition) as my around town bike, in 2017 when they pulled the pin i picked up a 2016 Victory Magnum at a pretty sweet price and use that as my 1-up cruiser and 2 weeks ago i was looking for a touring bike and was leaning towards a Roadmaster or Ultra limited when i came across a 2015 Victory Cross Country Tour that i fully accessorized with get this 198 miles, thats not a typo, 198 miles. The guy bought it as his retirement plan to cruise and never got around to doing it and decided to sell, i got a SWEEEEEEET price on it with all the extras and decided to get it as my 2-up touring bike. I love Victory and will ride them until the wheels fall off.
Victories are indeed great bikes and I just took mine on a 12000 mile trip with no major problems. I did however need to do my own oil changes in a couple of locations (no big deal, I brought filters with me) but did need to find oil alternatives as dealers are getting fewer and fewer. So, if you are going to take them on long trips you need to do a little planning and research to find dealers that will still support the bikes (not all have switched to Indian). I had a friend who's rectifier/regulator went out and she got stranded for a few days waiting on the part to be ordered. Are these reasons to get rid of the bikes? No, of course not, but you do need to plan ahead if you are going to take the bikes on longer trips.
@@Vato-Psyko-Loko I sold all 3 of mine, got FSR up looking for parts because the stupid dealer who used to sell them stock nothing anymore and parts are getting harder and harder and what you do find used they are asking ridiculous prices. Parts are only being made for 3 more years. Sold all 3 of my Victory’s and went back to Harley
I have a '13 with over 100k miles. When they made the announcement, I went to the dealer and purchased a '17. After crashing the '17 with 83k miles in 2018, I purchased another '13. But when a '17 with 1,900 miles popped up on my phone for $10,500, I purchased it as well. I WILL ONLY RIDE A VICTORY.
Damn, you put some miles on your bikes. Victories are without a doubt great bikes and they can be had at exceptionally low prices. Of course there are pros and cons to that depending on your needs. That is what this video was about. Victories are great bikes, but new buyers should understand the good and the bad. And, while I admire your loyalty to the brand, there are a lot of really good and fun bikes out there...
I have a first generation victory sport cruiser with the 92 cube. I’m a truck mechanic with above average diy skills and have greatly enjoyed my bike. I swapped in the 01 92 with the upgraded transmission. Did the valvespring upgrade. Upgraded the charging system. Rebuilt the forks. I haven’t had any real issues outside of finding parts. My suggestion, learn to take accurate measurements for thinks like bearings, don’t be afraid to rebuild vs replace parts. Take care of it and it’s less likely to fail.
I bought my first Victory right after they announced shut down (2013 Cross Country/Anti-freeze green), then a year later bought an Arlen Ness 2015 Vision. I LOVE my bikes, I bought them both for $20k, I am 63 and ride..ride...ride...(own'ed Harley etc) Victory is a classic. Planning to keep my bikes ....
randy's cycle in marengo illinois was at the top of the dealership pyramid when victory announced the end of victory. randy swears to stand by victory owners on service and support forever
Ive sat on the new 2020 "replacements" and I come home with my 09 victory vision tour premium because it FITS. It doesnt need hwy pegs or a different seat or new bars or whatever. It just fits. Its really not behind on pwr, handling or features either. No giant t.v. screen to look at, but other than infotainment.........its still as good if not better than the new offerings from indian, hd and honda.
Recently traded my 2015 Vision for another discontinued model, the Ultra Classic. I was amazed at the trade-in value and they sold it a few days later. That Vision is still the best ergonomically fitting best riding motorcycle I've ever owned and at 72 I've owned a few. Most of your discussion was my thinking as well in going back to Harley.
Victory did a lot of things right with the Vision. Best bike they made in my opinion. The looks are not for everyone, but the ride and comfort is the best I have tried. However, I understand moving on. Thanks!
What if a MAJOR part needs replacement? I am concerned about the drive belt particularly. If I know for sure those will be available for the next 20 years.... I'll get one.
That is the same with any older bike. You will have to be willing to source parts on eBay or other places that specialize in older bikes. The drive belt you will most likely be able to use something from the Indian line.
I have the same color Vision you have and I agree with everything you've stated here. Even though the OEM parts are drying up and the prices are ridiculous now, I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. I'll probably just keep it and buy something else later. Anyway, great video and thanks for sharing.
I was looking at the new Goldwing over the weekend. Nice bike, but the cost of a new bike is most likely going to push me to keeping the Vision running. Still a great bike. Thanks!
A Victory is very well engineered machine, I know a few guys who own them and swear by them. One of my friends bought a Vision just over three years ago and its his daily transportation. He’s put over fifty thousand miles on it with only basic maintenance.
That’s fairly new depending upon how much you ride. I rode one when they first came out and was very impressed. I have friends who own them. You will never get any trade-in value for it. You’ll be be able to service the bike for a long time. They’re a very well built bike. If you have one at this point in time, Just enjoy it as long as you can
Find a good independent local motorcycle shop, join any Victory online community. Parts are out there, knowledge is out there, plenty of good to be had; and it's still true, if you haven't ridden on one.. you should. Now if I only had enough money to steal myself a Gunner or Judge for a second Vic to ride.
@@LivingOffTheSlab - its funny but I had my bike serviced right before leaving Iowa on that trip out to the black hills in 2017 during sturgis rally. As I look back the bolts did not all shear at once but I didn't notice something was wrong until driving back to Deadwood one night and ran over a cattle grid as we approached town - I heard a loud sound going over the grate - I thought I had a flat and stopped the bike and checked things out - I did not notice anything wrong but pulley bolts was the last thing I could think of. The next day we drove out to devils tower - had no problem riding the twisties in Spearfish Canyon then got on 90 going west and was doing about 80 and when I got off the interstate i knew something was wrong - drove to Alladin but still didn't see it was the pully - finally decided to head back to the hotel which for that night was a long way off in New Castle, WY - it was only a few miles before the last bolt sheared on the way back to 90 and I lost forward motion- my buddy gave me a ride to 90 where there happened to be a rest area and I called a tow truck and got towed to Newcastle - fortunately my buddy did not want to ride out to the black hills that year as he was in his 70s and we towed our bikes out - so next day he drove to get his truck and trailer which we stowed in Chandron NE and loaded the bikes up and headed back a day early. From talking to the dealer (RJ Performance in Ottumwa IA) I understand it happens but not very often but often enough that I believe it to be a design problem (on some other big v twins the drive pulley is part of the rear hub and there are no bolts- while I love my vision that experience affected my perception of how reliable that motorcycle is. Unfortunately it happened a few months outside the warranty so I had to pay for it out of my pocket.
I love my Victory's, i have a couple and no plans to get rid of either. The 1st is a 2007 Victory Jackpot Ness edition and a 2016 Victory Magnum. Both are amazing bikes and the Freedom 100 engine is amazing and then they made it better with the Freedom 106 that i have in my Magnum. I am keeping both bikes and will be keeping them for quite some time yet, i also have 4 Indian Chiefs that i dont really ride much, i just refuse to sell them, 1948 Chief, 2003 Chief, 2010 Chief Bomber & 2014 Chief vintage, but in the summer, my 2 main bikes are the 2 Victory along with my 2005 Honda CBR 600F4i, my son has a sport bike so i keep this one when when i ride with him, i still enjoy the sport bike but for short around town distances.
Coming up on 15k on my Highball. Victory made excellent motorcycles. I will continue to ride this bike while doing the maintenance I can perform. I have so enjoyed riding this motorcycle I can't imagine getting rid of it. Nope! Maybe 25 or 30 years down the road Victory may be the one-off sought after bike. LOL I'll continue to keep it! Victory continues to live until the last motorcycle on the road.😁
Great video, with honest advice. I have been considering a Victory, and for the reasons you mention the pricing is pretty favorable. We have a couple of Indian dealers so I will have to check them out for service should I end up getting a Victory. I have always liked these bikes. Thanks for laying it all out.
My previous bike was a BMW Adventure 1200 and I don’t miss it I have a 2012 Crossroads awesome bike trouble free and great mpg highway 51-52 incredible my BMW barely got 39 and the victory is a 106 cu in No regrets It’s a bargain I do have triovol exhaust great sound easy breathing Love it
Man, i hate the idea of getting an indian challenger by trading in my victory vision. I still love this bike and can never get the same experience by selling it. What i may do is just own both cause they're similar but very different riding experiences!
I love my Victory Hammer but I think the time is coming to upgrade to a bagger. Although I'm hesitant about Victory, for the reasons you've mentioned, the costs of replacement to "upgrade" to a Harley Streetglide or Indian Chieftain is just ridiculous. when you consider the price of a relatively low mileage, gently used Cross Country or even Magnum it's hard to justify the extra cost.
Yeah, prices on used Victories are rock bottom, so you are not going to beat them with other brands. For the price you are getting one hell of a good bike.
I'm purchasing a used 2014 cross country this weekend for $10,000 from a private seller. It has 6,300 km"s on it. Cant really find that deal in a used Harley at that price, with matching km"s. excited for my new ride
I love my victory 2015 highball. I work on 106 and parts are still available and easy to get on line. ( engine parts ), I’m keeping mine because there worth pennies not worth selling. The ride is to good to sell.
I agree, for now most maintenance parts are still available, and I imagine they will be for some time. Body parts, seem to be a bit harder to get, at least from what my friends have experienced. I will keep riding mine for a while longer.
Living Off The Slab the body parts and things of that nature will be the killer. I demo rode the TS111 and in stock form didn’t care for the short leg shifting because I’m use to gaining power after 3000 RPM. Although the overall ride of the Indian was real good. No idea what I might do for a next bike. If Indian resale goes like victory, should be able to find a used one for 1/2 price of new on a 2 year old model. Enjoy the channel Craig, the green screen totally rocks.
Great video. I think it's just neat that you drew your little logo, what's the story behind the different colors in the center of the wheels? Ride safe!
The question is...what's next? 2004 Goldwing with 200k miles. I'll ride it till the wheels come off (lowering the cost of ownership with each additional mile), but, with an eye out for the next machine.
Is your most ridden bike now the Ténéré? I sold my 2013 Vision and tried a CTX 1300 ( the Honda Orphan). Now I am selling it and looking at a Honda VFR1200X DCT adventure bike. (Another Honda Orphan). I am seeing an ownership trend here. 😆😉
Love that vfr1200x motor. 100 lbs. heavier than africa twin(which I own). The weight capacity is lower because it's heavier, so check that if riding 2up. I love Honda dependability!
I think you have a lot of experience testing other bikes. Are you leaning toward another cruiser ? An Indian, HD, Goldwing ? I think I will be in the same position in a few years. Thanks for your opinion.
I really dont want another cruiser. The new Wing looks nice or the BMW K1600GL. The big Issue though is making my wife comfortable. If it was just me, I would ride the Tenere and maybe go even smaller.
Living Off The Slab My wife and I test rode all of the main candidates to succeed our aging LT. Nothing really caught our fancy. The new K1600GA came the closest, particularly in passenger comfort. And it has all of the K1600 niceties like the power, 7 gallon tank, relatively light weight, decent storage capacity, etc. I really thought I would like the new Wing and I do like the looks of it, but after a test ride we just weren’t impressed. It had decent handling, but well behind the K1600, was stable in a straight line and had great wind protection. But the small fuel tank, small storage capacity, rock hard seat, etc., turned us off. If I had to replace my LT tomorrow, I would buy a GA. However, at this point I decided to add a Russell seat to my LT, replace the aging rubber parts such as fuel hoses and radiator hoses, complete the full 24K maintenance (valves, filters, fluids, etc.) and then ride it to Alaska this year and probably keep it for another 3-5 years. The LT was discontinued in 2009 so it hasn’t been made in a decade, but BMW is great in regard to parts support. I have found no part yet that I can’t buy new from BMW - albeit at a steep price in many cases. However, as you said in regard to Victory, the aftermarket support is pretty good and I can probably keep mine reliable for another 10 years if necessary. I am hoping though for a good replacement in 5 years or less.
Thanks. I have been looking at several options to replace the Vision and the options are limited. My wife says the Indian Roadmaster is the most comfortable for her, but they are not my preference. I am going to have to take the Wing and BMW out this Spring and see if we can make either one as comfortable as the Vision. It is going to be a tall order.
Living Off The Slab I agree. The newer bikes seem to be very limited in one way or another. My wife liked the Yamaha (Star) Venture Transcontinental the best. It has the best stock seats by far and outstanding storage capacity. I wasn’t as big a fan of the weight as a modern bike really doesn’t need to weigh 900 lbs as BMW and others have proven. However, it was the air-cooled v-twin that stopped me cold. I am not a v-twin fan to start with, but an air-cooled engine in 2019? Someone had a major brain fart at Yamaha when they made that decision. Even my 30 year-old design KLR650 is liquid cooled for crying out loud.
Hay mate Paul from Australia, I know you did this tube post some time ago but I am considering buying a victory cross country. I was going to buy an Indian Scout, but what something more comfortable to put wife on.i owned ALOT of bikes British, Ducati and still have a Benelli 1130 trek ( plus two other bikes , ADV bike and dirt bike ) I have never owned a cruiser but being 52 now may be time to slow down a bit. I have been going right into detail on the Victory motor design its very simple and very reliable ( and don't know why Indian went for a push rod engine) the Victory makes more HP and close to the Watercooled Scout engine. I'm quite mechanically minded so maintenance is no issue . Can you tell my your option on LONG distance ownership and any common issue to be aware of . Regards Paul from the land of Aus
Hey Paul, as I mentioned in the video, the Victory bikes are very reliable and perform great. I had mine for 10 years with no major issues...mine was a Vision. Most of my friends have experienced the same with their Cross Countries. There are of course small issues that arise. The most common problem is a broken cluth cable...you need to keep it clean and lubed. Body panels and accessories are getting hard to find, but consumables should still be readily available. I dont know the situation in Australia, but here in the states you can pick up a used Vic with low mileage for good prices. But, you will also not get a good trade in value on them either. It just depends on your needs. They are great bikes and should give you many years of trouble free riding. Good luck and enjoy!
I always wondered if the Victory dealers got blindsided by Polaris, and if so, did they get some sort of deal like a conversion to Indian with a deal on inventory? I noticed in my area of Florida, about 2 years before Victory went away, 2 of the local dealers started selling Indians. Maybe some had a better idea than others.
From understanding, some states have buy back laws. In those cases Polaris took back the unsold inventory and moved it to the larger dealers. My dealer took a lot of the unsold stock and their Victory sales increases 400% after the shut down. Polaris did give good terms for those dealers willing to take the unsold bikes. Other than that, I dont think they did much. I am sure the encouraged dealers to carry Indian, but that comes with a rather large commitment to set up the Indian Boutique experience.
@@LivingOffTheSlab You're right about the the Indian boutique experience. They saw the success Harley has in their clothing dealerships , but tried to put a cigar bar spin on it. As nice as some of Indians bikes are, I think they dropped the ball. They had an opportunity to be the alternative to Harley in terms of pricing. I don't think the market needed another $20k+ cruiser manufacturer.
I really liked the Victory Cross Country. We went with a low mileage used GL 1800 instead. I want dealer service centers available when I travel. Wish Polaris had kept the victory line. I think the Victory's had better design in the 106 engines than the Indian 111.
Dealer support is a concern while traveling. I have not had any issues, knock on wood, but it is nice to know there is a large network just in case. I too like the Vics, but unfortunately we are in the minority.
I know you may say who in Gods name will order anything from Australia but here are several dealers and parts locations there and maybe some day they will reopen one in the U.S. - Victory & Indian Motorcycle Adelaide · Motorcycle dealer Stepney SA, Australia, Victory Lane Motorcycles, Victory Parts Australia, Ultimate Polaris Springwood, Polaris Melbourne , Polaris Central, just do a search on each one for address and phone #, there are several to choose from, but again like i said we are here they are there, Peace.
Always liked the lines of the Vision. I would have never bought a new one ….. but a shame the line folded. I still believe the Victory line would have done better, long term, than the Indian brand. Can't believe it has been two years already. Curious though, since the announcement in 2017 have the values dropped more or less than you expected?
They have dropped a bit more than I expected. Before the shutdown I could have expected mine to sell for around 10k, now I am looking at 6k. It is what it is.
Of course the Indian name would sell more then the Victory branding. Additional time would only lose additional money. Indian is alive because of Victory! Victory DNA seeps into everything designed today. Polaris didn't kill Victory. They just put in all their chips and are doubling down using the Indian name. Victory had too much going for it to throw away. It lives through Indian and carries on that innovative approach.
@@LivingOffTheSlab It's going great! I'm here in Palmdale California waiting on a rear tire to be delivered. Then headed over to Joshua Tree, then to Vegas. I'll wonder back in to California through Death Valley.
heck I'm still gonna buy me a victory octane .... and if they keep getting cheaper and cheaper here in new Zealand .. then I'm gonna buy as many leftover victory bikes as I can.... I mean just because the company may no longer exist doesn't mean that they aren't 1 of the best competitive bikes that challenged and took the motorcycle world by surprise and .it will probably go down in history as one of D pound for pound fighters .. priceless time machines.. endless ideas and will be cheap to fully customize yourself chop cut weld and paint.. 30 to 45 years from now sittin around with old buddys drinking beer talking about bikes when suddenly someone pops up .. who remembers the bad ass victory motorcycles.. .. And I'll say hell yeah which one I got a bunch of them in the barn....
who else here is completely upside down on there bike, bought 9 days b4 they closed. got royaly screwed, i however do not plan to sell the bike but shit its annoying.
My 2015 Vision Tour Red/black has 13,000 mi So it looks like I should have many years of total enjoyment. I have had a number of different baggers . 2005 Electra glide , 2013 Goldwing Tour , A very nice 2019 Roadglide. Ended up trading my Roadglide for a Convertible car in 2020 . Then in 2021 found the 2015 Victory Vision tour . It is a very comfortable bike . And stock with heated grips and seat . And you have to appreciate the windshield. I will probably do a couple of things to it . Nothing to extreme.
I understand, the Vision was a great bike for us and took us to a lot of great places. But, I could not hang on to it and wanted something a bit lighter. The travel and experiences are what is important, not the bike.
Victory are well built,No problems with the 03 Vegas I had.There will be parts in circulation for decades look at all the old Harleys They have parts for the knuckleheads that were made in the 50s somehow they get parts
What you say is true, it just depends if you like searching eBay and other old bike dealers for parts. Some people enjoy that kind of thing and others do not.
Great nuanced and well thought out video, as usual. TBF the only thing a Victory owner need worry about is service and parts availability. IF they are not serial bike flippers they will not lose a dime on their Victory. IF they panicked or wanted to move on they were bound to lose. I do believe that the lost trade-in value wouldn't have been significant IF someone had put serious miles on the bike. As a high mileage rider (20-30000 per season) I know once you hit that magic 50000, regardless of make, depreciation is a... Thanks again for the great thought piece.
For sure I have gotten my money out of the bike and I have never been concerned about resale value. All I was saying is that is that if resale is important to any potential buyer, a Victory is not a good option...at least at this point. I agree, bike flipping is not a good financial move. Unless you have a true collectors item, bikes will always depreciate. Sure, some bikes might loose less money over a given period, but it still a loss. Thanks!
All manufacturers eventually stop making models that they produce. Even the Sportster has been changed so much that you can't use new parts on old Sportsters. Same goes for Goldwings and R series BMWs. So, if you like the bike buy it, ride it and eventually move on from it. Almost all vehicles are money pits that are a depreciating asset..... The Vision may become a collector in 30 years from now...
For sure, everyone who hangs on to a bike long enough will have to deal with the same issues. Unfortunately, I am not sure I will be around to see a Vision become a collectors item...LOL.
The biggest problem will be finding ‘dealers’ who will have the specialty tools to work on them when needed, let alone mechanics with enough experience working on them. Lots of dealers got severely burned financially.
Yeah, over time this will become a bigger issue. On the other hand there are a lot of older or discontinued bikes of all makes on the road. Markets develop to supply parts and riders do more of their own work. In the long run, it will get down to your individual commitment to keep them running. Thanks!
It is time we call these motorcycles (any brand you happen to ride) for what they really, truly are : 'Time Machines' that take us Boomers back to when we were young, before body aches, pains, and limitations. They are 'Time Machines'.
I know some dealers here in Texas that worked on them. The big problem are any replacement parts are near impossible to find. So while they are indeed great bikes moving forward I’d stat away for that reason.
I wouldn’t! Aftermarket parts are there but small stuff is starting to become hard to find. I had a 2012 victory vegas 8ball. It always had a problem. Im not a victory fan anymore. Looked soo good tho, miss it for that.
I think the victory was a good bike and palaris pulled the plug. I would trust palaris to stand behind their stuff. If they did it before they will do it again. Sure I know the reason they claimed.
If any product is not making money, it is going to be discontinued. That is true of Indian, HD or Honda. These companies exist to make money for there shareholders. Expecting anything more is not realistic. HD has shut plants, laid off workers, moved assembly overseas and discontinued models. It is all part of trying to keep profits up.
@@LivingOffTheSlab but what happens when you can't get internal parts for it what do you do ? Is it a throw away ? I could buy one right now but this is what's scaring me .
There are a lot of bikes on the road that are 15 or 20 years old and an industry has developed to supply parts for those bikes. Sometimes it is finding parts on eBay, but if you really want to keep the bike running you can find a way. It gets down to what you want.
@@LivingOffTheSlab you said in video you were going to keep the Victory another season or two. This video is 7 months old and you just released a new video today about your BMW 1600 .
Oh...yes after riding it for 60 days I thought it was time. The Vision did great, but I really wanted something lighter. I do still have the Vision though.
@@addicted2baseballrgd21 , no keeping it for now. Unfortunately it is not worth much and with 75K on it, the dealers don't event want it. So for now I will keep it.
Certainly, it is less and less easy to ride a Vision, but I don't see any bike that can replace it for me, so I will do my best to make it my last bike, even if it starts to cost me enough money, now I have to change direction and maybe the wheel, Right rear HP (the left one was 1 month ago) at the same time as I had the side stand and its broken support changed while I was refueling, 800 euros still and I am asked for the next repairs (with rear tire) 1600 euros, aye, but La Vision still has 98 000 km ( 60894 miles so.) but has a brand new clutch and runs like a Vision ^^ . Visionary Greetings ;-) Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator
It does sound temping. In fact, I am wearing my Nashville Harley shirt today. There were some fine ladies selling t-shirts...but they would just get me in trouble.
The concept of this video is spot on! Motorcycling is about the ride, a certain rush you get when you feel the wind, seeing breathtaking scenery. Enjoying the experience of riding with others, if lucky. Who cares what you straddle...? Enjoy your wind therapy Brothers & Sisters, Ride!
Well said. Thank you!
I love my cross country. Fits me great, destroys Harley’s at the race line and it’s never let me down (been to Mexico twice and 10000 miles in USA) (I’m in Canada). I think I’m going to keep it forever.
Thanks!
What's your plan when parts stop/run out?
I bought a brand new '16 Vegas after they pulled the plug so i got a great deal, modded it the way I wanted - and I'm at the point where in Sweden I could make a profit at resale already.
However it's still my dream bike and probably always will be - and the personal value it holds will always be greater than any possible future collectors market can ever throw at me.
I'll ride it until the 106 stops beating, and at that point I'll probably make some sort of display of it in my living room.
Thank you Craig for all the videos you make, even this 24-y/o kid across the pond has learned a great deal from you - and I hope you keep doing it seeing as it always makes the riding season feel that much closer whenever you upload.
It sounds like the market in Sweden is a little stronger than here in the US. You have the right idea, ride the bike, enjoy it don't worry about all this stuff. Thanks for watching and for the kind comments!
I do love my Victory's, i have a 2007 Victory Jackpot (Ness edition) as my around town bike, in 2017 when they pulled the pin i picked up a 2016 Victory Magnum at a pretty sweet price and use that as my 1-up cruiser and 2 weeks ago i was looking for a touring bike and was leaning towards a Roadmaster or Ultra limited when i came across a 2015 Victory Cross Country Tour that i fully accessorized with get this 198 miles, thats not a typo, 198 miles. The guy bought it as his retirement plan to cruise and never got around to doing it and decided to sell, i got a SWEEEEEEET price on it with all the extras and decided to get it as my 2-up touring bike. I love Victory and will ride them until the wheels fall off.
Victories are indeed great bikes and I just took mine on a 12000 mile trip with no major problems. I did however need to do my own oil changes in a couple of locations (no big deal, I brought filters with me) but did need to find oil alternatives as dealers are getting fewer and fewer. So, if you are going to take them on long trips you need to do a little planning and research to find dealers that will still support the bikes (not all have switched to Indian). I had a friend who's rectifier/regulator went out and she got stranded for a few days waiting on the part to be ordered. Are these reasons to get rid of the bikes? No, of course not, but you do need to plan ahead if you are going to take the bikes on longer trips.
@@LivingOffTheSlab , agree! Ride on my friend!
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just so you know, a Magnum is the premium touring bike. Why have that and a Cross Country?
There's a Ness Jackpot on sale for 7000 here where I'm at. I'm hesitant to buy it because Victory is shut down. What's your opinion on my dilemma???
@@Vato-Psyko-Loko I sold all 3 of mine, got FSR up looking for parts because the stupid dealer who used to sell them stock nothing anymore and parts are getting harder and harder and what you do find used they are asking ridiculous prices.
Parts are only being made for 3 more years.
Sold all 3 of my Victory’s and went back to Harley
I have a '13 with over 100k miles. When they made the announcement, I went to the dealer and purchased a '17. After crashing the '17 with 83k miles in 2018, I purchased another '13. But when a '17 with 1,900 miles popped up on my phone for $10,500, I purchased it as well. I WILL ONLY RIDE A VICTORY.
Damn, you put some miles on your bikes. Victories are without a doubt great bikes and they can be had at exceptionally low prices. Of course there are pros and cons to that depending on your needs. That is what this video was about. Victories are great bikes, but new buyers should understand the good and the bad. And, while I admire your loyalty to the brand, there are a lot of really good and fun bikes out there...
I love my Victory Vision.
2010 still going strong.
Highly reliable
Yep, it is a great bike.
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Great subject. I was sorry to see the end of Victory. I really The styling of their bikes. I think they were ahead of their time. Great video. 👍
Thanks!
I have a first generation victory sport cruiser with the 92 cube. I’m a truck mechanic with above average diy skills and have greatly enjoyed my bike. I swapped in the 01 92 with the upgraded transmission. Did the valvespring upgrade. Upgraded the charging system. Rebuilt the forks. I haven’t had any real issues outside of finding parts. My suggestion, learn to take accurate measurements for thinks like bearings, don’t be afraid to rebuild vs replace parts. Take care of it and it’s less likely to fail.
Good advice, thanks!
Here in north Cali close to me I have a Ness Jackpot and Hammer for sale. Beautiful bikes but I'm hesitant to buy one. This video is spot on.
I bought my first Victory right after they announced shut down (2013 Cross Country/Anti-freeze green), then a year later bought an Arlen Ness 2015 Vision. I LOVE my bikes, I bought them both for $20k, I am 63 and ride..ride...ride...(own'ed Harley etc) Victory is a classic. Planning to keep my bikes ....
They are indeed great bikes, enjoy!
randy's cycle in marengo illinois was at the top of the dealership pyramid when victory announced the end of victory. randy swears to stand by victory owners on service and support forever
MOMS here in Foxboro is the same way. There are others across the country, but they are getting fewer.
Ive sat on the new 2020 "replacements" and I come home with my 09 victory vision tour premium because it FITS. It doesnt need hwy pegs or a different seat or new bars or whatever. It just fits. Its really not behind on pwr, handling or features either. No giant t.v. screen to look at, but other than infotainment.........its still as good if not better than the new offerings from indian, hd and honda.
The Vision is indeed a great bike. Thanks!
Recently traded my 2015 Vision for another discontinued model, the Ultra Classic. I was amazed at the trade-in value and they sold it a few days later. That Vision is still the best ergonomically fitting best riding motorcycle I've ever owned and at 72 I've owned a few. Most of your discussion was my thinking as well in going back to Harley.
Victory did a lot of things right with the Vision. Best bike they made in my opinion. The looks are not for everyone, but the ride and comfort is the best I have tried. However, I understand moving on. Thanks!
What if a MAJOR part needs replacement? I am concerned about the drive belt particularly. If I know for sure those will be available for the next 20 years.... I'll get one.
That is the same with any older bike. You will have to be willing to source parts on eBay or other places that specialize in older bikes. The drive belt you will most likely be able to use something from the Indian line.
I have the same color Vision you have and I agree with everything you've stated here. Even though the OEM parts are drying up and the prices are ridiculous now, I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. I'll probably just keep it and buy something else later. Anyway, great video and thanks for sharing.
I was looking at the new Goldwing over the weekend. Nice bike, but the cost of a new bike is most likely going to push me to keeping the Vision running. Still a great bike. Thanks!
A Victory is very well engineered machine, I know a few guys who own them and swear by them. One of my friends bought a Vision just over three years ago and its his daily transportation. He’s put over fifty thousand miles on it with only basic maintenance.
They are great bikes, mine has been.
I just bought a 2014 vision tour. It's a beautiful bike. I'll keep it as long as I can
Amen!
That’s fairly new depending upon how much you ride. I rode one when they first came out and was very impressed. I have friends who own them. You will never get any trade-in value for it. You’ll be be able to service the bike for a long time. They’re a very well built bike. If you have one at this point in time, Just enjoy it as long as you can
Find a good independent local motorcycle shop, join any Victory online community. Parts are out there, knowledge is out there, plenty of good to be had; and it's still true, if you haven't ridden on one.. you should. Now if I only had enough money to steal myself a Gunner or Judge for a second Vic to ride.
Thanks!
I had all the bolts holding on the drive pulley on the rear wheel shear off near devil's tower on my 2014 victory vision
Really...have not heard of that before.
@@LivingOffTheSlab - its funny but I had my bike serviced right before leaving Iowa on that trip out to the black hills in 2017 during sturgis rally. As I look back the bolts did not all shear at once but I didn't notice something was wrong until driving back to Deadwood one night and ran over a cattle grid as we approached town - I heard a loud sound going over the grate - I thought I had a flat and stopped the bike and checked things out - I did not notice anything wrong but pulley bolts was the last thing I could think of. The next day we drove out to devils tower - had no problem riding the twisties in Spearfish Canyon then got on 90 going west and was doing about 80 and when I got off the interstate i knew something was wrong - drove to Alladin but still didn't see it was the pully - finally decided to head back to the hotel which for that night was a long way off in New Castle, WY - it was only a few miles before the last bolt sheared on the way back to 90 and I lost forward motion- my buddy gave me a ride to 90 where there happened to be a rest area and I called a tow truck and got towed to Newcastle - fortunately my buddy did not want to ride out to the black hills that year as he was in his 70s and we towed our bikes out - so next day he drove to get his truck and trailer which we stowed in Chandron NE and loaded the bikes up and headed back a day early.
From talking to the dealer (RJ Performance in Ottumwa IA) I understand it happens but not very often but often enough that I believe it to be a design problem (on some other big v twins the drive pulley is part of the rear hub and there are no bolts- while I love my vision that experience affected my perception of how reliable that motorcycle is. Unfortunately it happened a few months outside the warranty so I had to pay for it out of my pocket.
@@kel108 , Thanks for sharing. I have not had any issues with mine, so I am going to keep my fingers crossed.
@@kel108 i heard the powder coating on the pulley does not allow proper torque to take place.
How many bikes do you need, how long are you really going to keep biking? 70-80-90-100 years?
How many bikes do I need...many as I can afford and have the time to ride. How long will I ride...as long as I can. Aren't you?
Did Polaris make the engines?
Yes, they made the entire bikes.
Absolutely! just got my second one, a 2006 Ness Jackpot!
Enjoy!
I love my Victory's, i have a couple and no plans to get rid of either. The 1st is a 2007 Victory Jackpot Ness edition and a 2016 Victory Magnum. Both are amazing bikes and the Freedom 100 engine is amazing and then they made it better with the Freedom 106 that i have in my Magnum. I am keeping both bikes and will be keeping them for quite some time yet, i also have 4 Indian Chiefs that i dont really ride much, i just refuse to sell them, 1948 Chief, 2003 Chief, 2010 Chief Bomber & 2014 Chief vintage, but in the summer, my 2 main bikes are the 2 Victory along with my 2005 Honda CBR 600F4i, my son has a sport bike so i keep this one when when i ride with him, i still enjoy the sport bike but for short around town distances.
Without a doubt, Victories are great bikes. Thanks!
Coming up on 15k on my Highball. Victory made excellent motorcycles. I will continue to ride this bike while doing the maintenance I can perform. I have so enjoyed riding this motorcycle I can't imagine getting rid of it. Nope! Maybe 25 or 30 years down the road Victory may be the one-off sought after bike. LOL I'll continue to keep it! Victory continues to live until the last motorcycle on the road.😁
Ride safe!
Great video, with honest advice. I have been considering a Victory, and for the reasons you mention the pricing is pretty favorable. We have a couple of Indian dealers so I will have to check them out for service should I end up getting a Victory. I have always liked these bikes. Thanks for laying it all out.
My previous bike was a BMW Adventure 1200 and I don’t miss it
I have a 2012 Crossroads awesome bike trouble free and great mpg highway 51-52 incredible my BMW barely got 39 and the victory is a 106 cu in
No regrets
It’s a bargain I do have triovol exhaust great sound easy breathing
Love it
I put cams in mine so it only gets around 40 and 38 two up. But it has been a great bike. I do very much enjoy my Tenere however. Thanks!
@@LivingOffTheSlab I have a v92c and have never gotten better than 35mpg
Man, i hate the idea of getting an indian challenger by trading in my victory vision. I still love this bike and can never get the same experience by selling it. What i may do is just own both cause they're similar but very different riding experiences!
I love my Victory Hammer but I think the time is coming to upgrade to a bagger. Although I'm hesitant about Victory, for the reasons you've mentioned, the costs of replacement to "upgrade" to a Harley Streetglide or Indian Chieftain is just ridiculous. when you consider the price of a relatively low mileage, gently used Cross Country or even Magnum it's hard to justify the extra cost.
Yeah, prices on used Victories are rock bottom, so you are not going to beat them with other brands. For the price you are getting one hell of a good bike.
I'm purchasing a used 2014 cross country this weekend for $10,000 from a private seller.
It has 6,300 km"s on it.
Cant really find that deal in a used Harley at that price, with matching km"s.
excited for my new ride
@@fragpants ya that's a great deal for such an awesome bike. Really under rated. Congrats!
I have a 2014 XC Ness edition (#73) with 72K on her. still has plenty of life left in her, still a Harley killer. love mine, second owned Victory.
Victories are great bikes. Enjoy!
I love my victory 2015 highball. I work on 106 and parts are still available and easy to get on line. ( engine parts ),
I’m keeping mine because there worth pennies not worth selling. The ride is to good to sell.
I agree, for now most maintenance parts are still available, and I imagine they will be for some time. Body parts, seem to be a bit harder to get, at least from what my friends have experienced. I will keep riding mine for a while longer.
Living Off The Slab the body parts and things of that nature will be the killer. I demo rode the TS111 and in stock form didn’t care for the short leg shifting because I’m use to gaining power after 3000 RPM. Although the overall ride of the Indian was real good. No idea what I might do for a next bike. If Indian resale goes like victory, should be able to find a used one for 1/2 price of new on a 2 year old model. Enjoy the channel Craig, the green screen totally rocks.
Thanks!
Picked up my 2011 CC for $7500 Feb. 2019, miles low 30 k range. Probably my last major 2 wheel purchase.
There are a lot of good deals out there. Enjoy!
Great video. I think it's just neat that you drew your little logo, what's the story behind the different colors in the center of the wheels? Ride safe!
No real story. As I was creating the digital image I thought it looked cool and helped to make the spokes stand out. Thanks!
Thanks. It does look neat.
Good video. Victory was a great bike. I had a 2011 Cross County sod It before Victory went under. For me I will only buy Harley-Davidson
Thanks!
The question is...what's next? 2004 Goldwing with 200k miles. I'll ride it till the wheels come off (lowering the cost of ownership with each additional mile), but, with an eye out for the next machine.
I agree, as long as it keeps running, keep riding it. But, the new Wing or Beemer looks pretty good.
Oddly enough, I received a postcard in the mail this week advertising Victor t-shirts at my Victor dealer. Are there still Victory dealers?
Hmm...officially no, but mine still keeps the signs up as they have a bunch of used bikes to sell.
Is your most ridden bike now the Ténéré? I sold my 2013 Vision and tried a CTX 1300 ( the Honda Orphan). Now I am selling it and looking at a Honda VFR1200X DCT adventure bike. (Another Honda Orphan). I am seeing an ownership trend here. 😆😉
This year I road the Vision primarily, putting 12k on it during my big trip.
Love that vfr1200x motor. 100 lbs. heavier than africa twin(which I own). The weight capacity is lower because it's heavier, so check that if riding 2up. I love Honda dependability!
I think you have a lot of experience testing other bikes. Are you leaning toward another cruiser ? An Indian, HD, Goldwing ? I think I will be in the same position in a few years. Thanks for your opinion.
I really dont want another cruiser. The new Wing looks nice or the BMW K1600GL. The big Issue though is making my wife comfortable. If it was just me, I would ride the Tenere and maybe go even smaller.
Living Off The Slab My wife and I test rode all of the main candidates to succeed our aging LT. Nothing really caught our fancy. The new K1600GA came the closest, particularly in passenger comfort. And it has all of the K1600 niceties like the power, 7 gallon tank, relatively light weight, decent storage capacity, etc. I really thought I would like the new Wing and I do like the looks of it, but after a test ride we just weren’t impressed. It had decent handling, but well behind the K1600, was stable in a straight line and had great wind protection. But the small fuel tank, small storage capacity, rock hard seat, etc., turned us off. If I had to replace my LT tomorrow, I would buy a GA. However, at this point I decided to add a Russell seat to my LT, replace the aging rubber parts such as fuel hoses and radiator hoses, complete the full 24K maintenance (valves, filters, fluids, etc.) and then ride it to Alaska this year and probably keep it for another 3-5 years.
The LT was discontinued in 2009 so it hasn’t been made in a decade, but BMW is great in regard to parts support. I have found no part yet that I can’t buy new from BMW - albeit at a steep price in many cases. However, as you said in regard to Victory, the aftermarket support is pretty good and I can probably keep mine reliable for another 10 years if necessary. I am hoping though for a good replacement in 5 years or less.
Thanks. I have been looking at several options to replace the Vision and the options are limited. My wife says the Indian Roadmaster is the most comfortable for her, but they are not my preference. I am going to have to take the Wing and BMW out this Spring and see if we can make either one as comfortable as the Vision. It is going to be a tall order.
Living Off The Slab I agree. The newer bikes seem to be very limited in one way or another. My wife liked the Yamaha (Star) Venture Transcontinental the best. It has the best stock seats by far and outstanding storage capacity. I wasn’t as big a fan of the weight as a modern bike really doesn’t need to weigh 900 lbs as BMW and others have proven. However, it was the air-cooled v-twin that stopped me cold. I am not a v-twin fan to start with, but an air-cooled engine in 2019? Someone had a major brain fart at Yamaha when they made that decision. Even my 30 year-old design KLR650 is liquid cooled for crying out loud.
Hay mate Paul from Australia, I know you did this tube post some time ago but I am considering buying a victory cross country. I was going to buy an Indian Scout, but what something more comfortable to put wife on.i owned ALOT of bikes British, Ducati and still have a Benelli 1130 trek ( plus two other bikes , ADV bike and dirt bike ) I have never owned a cruiser but being 52 now may be time to slow down a bit. I have been going right into detail on the Victory motor design its very simple and very reliable ( and don't know why Indian went for a push rod engine) the Victory makes more HP and close to the Watercooled Scout engine. I'm quite mechanically minded so maintenance is no issue . Can you tell my your option on LONG distance ownership and any common issue to be aware of . Regards Paul from the land of Aus
Hey Paul, as I mentioned in the video, the Victory bikes are very reliable and perform great. I had mine for 10 years with no major issues...mine was a Vision. Most of my friends have experienced the same with their Cross Countries. There are of course small issues that arise. The most common problem is a broken cluth cable...you need to keep it clean and lubed. Body panels and accessories are getting hard to find, but consumables should still be readily available. I dont know the situation in Australia, but here in the states you can pick up a used Vic with low mileage for good prices. But, you will also not get a good trade in value on them either. It just depends on your needs. They are great bikes and should give you many years of trouble free riding. Good luck and enjoy!
Living Off The Slab thanks mate for your reply, they safe and keep it upright. 👍
I always wondered if the Victory dealers got blindsided by Polaris, and if so, did they get some sort of deal like a conversion to Indian with a deal on inventory? I noticed in my area of Florida, about 2 years before Victory went away, 2 of the local dealers started selling Indians. Maybe some had a better idea than others.
From understanding, some states have buy back laws. In those cases Polaris took back the unsold inventory and moved it to the larger dealers. My dealer took a lot of the unsold stock and their Victory sales increases 400% after the shut down. Polaris did give good terms for those dealers willing to take the unsold bikes. Other than that, I dont think they did much. I am sure the encouraged dealers to carry Indian, but that comes with a rather large commitment to set up the Indian Boutique experience.
@@LivingOffTheSlab You're right about the the Indian boutique experience. They saw the success Harley has in their clothing dealerships , but tried to put a cigar bar spin on it. As nice as some of Indians bikes are, I think they dropped the ball. They had an opportunity to be the alternative to Harley in terms of pricing. I don't think the market needed another $20k+ cruiser manufacturer.
Harley and even Indian sales are down, so I suspect that we will see more bikes like the FTR1200 offered. But, we will just have to wait and see.
Great info, thanks!
Thank you!
I really liked the Victory Cross Country. We went with a low mileage used GL 1800 instead. I want dealer service centers available when I travel. Wish Polaris had kept the victory line. I think the Victory's had better design in the 106 engines than the Indian 111.
Dealer support is a concern while traveling. I have not had any issues, knock on wood, but it is nice to know there is a large network just in case. I too like the Vics, but unfortunately we are in the minority.
Sadly, but true, not much different than buying any discontinued models from existing brands!
Very true.
I just did, 2011 Vision with 8k miles for $8500.
Enjoy!
I know you may say who in Gods name will order anything from Australia but here are several dealers and parts locations there and maybe some day they will reopen one in the U.S. - Victory & Indian Motorcycle Adelaide · Motorcycle dealer
Stepney SA, Australia, Victory Lane Motorcycles, Victory Parts Australia, Ultimate Polaris Springwood, Polaris Melbourne , Polaris Central, just do a search on each one for address and phone #, there are several to choose from, but again like i said we are here they are there, Peace.
I Have vision , 2011 , old 8 years
Thanks!
Always liked the lines of the Vision. I would have never bought a new one ….. but a shame the line folded. I still believe the Victory line would have done better, long term, than the Indian brand. Can't believe it has been two years already. Curious though, since the announcement in 2017 have the values dropped more or less than you expected?
They have dropped a bit more than I expected. Before the shutdown I could have expected mine to sell for around 10k, now I am looking at 6k. It is what it is.
Of course the Indian name would sell more then the Victory branding. Additional time would only lose additional money. Indian is alive because of Victory! Victory DNA seeps into everything designed today. Polaris didn't kill Victory. They just put in all their chips and are doubling down using the Indian name. Victory had too much going for it to throw away. It lives through Indian and carries on that innovative approach.
I'd buy one, Do my own work and after having Norton's and such finding parts .......🇺🇸
Thanks!
Great video
Thanks!
Just purchased an 09 kingpin just under 15k. Idc what they say its a nice ass bike and ill ride it until i can’t no more.
Totally Agree!
Thanks! How is your trip going?
@@LivingOffTheSlab It's going great! I'm here in Palmdale California waiting on a rear tire to be delivered. Then headed over to Joshua Tree, then to Vegas. I'll wonder back in to California through Death Valley.
Sounds great. I will be on the road during June and July, so let me know where you will be and if we can, it would be nice to hook up.
heck I'm still gonna buy me a victory octane .... and if they keep getting cheaper and cheaper here in new Zealand .. then I'm gonna buy as many leftover victory bikes as I can.... I mean just because the company may no longer exist doesn't mean that they aren't 1 of the best competitive bikes that challenged and took the motorcycle world by surprise and .it will probably go down in history as one of D pound for pound fighters .. priceless time machines.. endless ideas and will be cheap to fully customize yourself chop cut weld and paint.. 30 to 45 years from now sittin around with old buddys drinking beer talking about bikes when suddenly someone pops up .. who remembers the bad ass victory motorcycles.. .. And I'll say hell yeah which one I got a bunch of them in the barn....
I hope your right, but in 30 years I will sitting in my rocking chair, or pushing up daisies. I will have to leave it to you young bucks. Ride on!
Living Off The Slab Roger that..
who else here is completely upside down on there bike, bought 9 days b4 they closed. got royaly screwed, i however do not plan to sell the bike but shit its annoying.
It is a pain, but, not much you can do except ride it and enjoy it.
I was suppose to get 2k off but the stealership wouldn't give it to me. Guess I should have walked. 😡
My Vision has 210k and shows no signs of stopping!
My 2015 Vision Tour Red/black has 13,000 mi So it looks like I should have many years of total enjoyment. I have had a number of different baggers . 2005 Electra glide , 2013 Goldwing Tour , A very nice 2019 Roadglide. Ended up trading my Roadglide for a Convertible car in 2020 . Then in 2021 found the 2015 Victory Vision tour . It is a very comfortable bike . And stock with heated grips and seat . And you have to appreciate the windshield. I will probably do a couple of things to it . Nothing to extreme.
Too bad Polaris shut it down the Victory is such a beautiful bike. Much better looking and a better design than HD
There are great bikes!
I love my highball ill ride till it won't run
Thanks!
Do you still have your Vision?
No, I traded it for a BMW at the end of 2019. Time for something new.
@@LivingOffTheSlab I have a 2012 Hard-Ball that I am in love with but listed it, and now a guys wants it. Not sure how I feel. 😬
I understand, the Vision was a great bike for us and took us to a lot of great places. But, I could not hang on to it and wanted something a bit lighter. The travel and experiences are what is important, not the bike.
A previously loved Vic is far more dependable than a brand new Harley.
Vics are great bikes!
Victory are well built,No problems with the 03 Vegas I had.There will be parts in circulation for decades look at all the old Harleys They have parts for the knuckleheads that were made in the 50s somehow they get parts
What you say is true, it just depends if you like searching eBay and other old bike dealers for parts. Some people enjoy that kind of thing and others do not.
Great nuanced and well thought out video, as usual. TBF the only thing a Victory owner need worry about is service and parts availability. IF they are not serial bike flippers they will not lose a dime on their Victory. IF they panicked or wanted to move on they were bound to lose. I do believe that the lost trade-in value wouldn't have been significant IF someone had put serious miles on the bike. As a high mileage rider (20-30000 per season) I know once you hit that magic 50000, regardless of make, depreciation is a... Thanks again for the great thought piece.
For sure I have gotten my money out of the bike and I have never been concerned about resale value. All I was saying is that is that if resale is important to any potential buyer, a Victory is not a good option...at least at this point. I agree, bike flipping is not a good financial move. Unless you have a true collectors item, bikes will always depreciate. Sure, some bikes might loose less money over a given period, but it still a loss. Thanks!
All manufacturers eventually stop making models that they produce. Even the Sportster has been changed so much that you can't use new parts on old Sportsters. Same goes for Goldwings and R series BMWs. So, if you like the bike buy it, ride it and eventually move on from it. Almost all vehicles are money pits that are a depreciating asset..... The Vision may become a collector in 30 years from now...
For sure, everyone who hangs on to a bike long enough will have to deal with the same issues. Unfortunately, I am not sure I will be around to see a Vision become a collectors item...LOL.
@@LivingOffTheSlab At 65, I am pretty sure I will not be around either. Thanks brother, I enjoy your channel.
Good knowledge. Thank You Sir!
Thank you!
Got myself a Honda Fury. LOVE IT :)
The biggest problem will be finding ‘dealers’ who will have the specialty tools to work on them when needed, let alone mechanics with enough experience working on them. Lots of dealers got severely burned financially.
Yeah, over time this will become a bigger issue. On the other hand there are a lot of older or discontinued bikes of all makes on the road. Markets develop to supply parts and riders do more of their own work. In the long run, it will get down to your individual commitment to keep them running. Thanks!
What specialty tools??
@@bonnevillebagger9147 every manufacturer has a few specialty tools needed to perform certain maintenance or (dis) assembly operations.
09 vegas perfect machine for me. Just as they say ,ride one you'll own one
They are great bikes, thanks!
I think I can see an Indian Chieftain in your garage in a couple of years : )
I don't know, the Indians are not my style. We shall see what they come up with in the future. Thanks!
It is time we call these motorcycles (any brand you happen to ride) for what they really, truly are : 'Time Machines' that take us Boomers back to when we were young, before body aches, pains, and limitations. They are 'Time Machines'.
Interesting perspective, I may have to borrow that theme for a future video.
I know some dealers here in Texas that worked on them. The big problem are any replacement parts are near impossible to find. So while they are indeed great bikes moving forward I’d stat away for that reason.
Thanks!
Junkyards and parts bikes.
I wouldn’t! Aftermarket parts are there but small stuff is starting to become hard to find. I had a 2012 victory vegas 8ball. It always had a problem. Im not a victory fan anymore. Looked soo good tho, miss it for that.
Thanks!
I think the victory was a good bike and palaris pulled the plug. I would trust palaris to stand behind their stuff. If they did it before they will do it again. Sure I know the reason they claimed.
If any product is not making money, it is going to be discontinued. That is true of Indian, HD or Honda. These companies exist to make money for there shareholders. Expecting anything more is not realistic. HD has shut plants, laid off workers, moved assembly overseas and discontinued models. It is all part of trying to keep profits up.
my victory hammer 2006 brill
They are great bikes.
It's about the engine internals if you can't get parts for that that bike its useless
Parts will be available through 2026 and after that it is like every other discontinued bike.
@@LivingOffTheSlab but what happens when you can't get internal parts for it what do you do ?
Is it a throw away ?
I could buy one right now but this is what's scaring me .
There are a lot of bikes on the road that are 15 or 20 years old and an industry has developed to supply parts for those bikes. Sometimes it is finding parts on eBay, but if you really want to keep the bike running you can find a way. It gets down to what you want.
@@LivingOffTheSlab yah but the parts are affordable for those older bikes ... Victory parts are climbing in price
Ok, then you have made your decision.
They still make Victory motorcycles. They just call them Indian now🤣😆😆
That was a short 2 season's 😆
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@@LivingOffTheSlab you said in video you were going to keep the Victory another season or two. This video is 7 months old and you just released a new video today about your BMW 1600 .
Oh...yes after riding it for 60 days I thought it was time. The Vision did great, but I really wanted something lighter. I do still have the Vision though.
@@LivingOffTheSlab I'll begin the 60 day series later this week. I assumed you traded in the Vision.
@@addicted2baseballrgd21 , no keeping it for now. Unfortunately it is not worth much and with 75K on it, the dealers don't event want it. So for now I will keep it.
2008 vision, ride it till it dies, then rebuild.
Sounds good!
My vision has10k. After that I'm done. No need to push my luck in todays hostile and dangerous riding environments. Too many phone idiots out there.
Sorry to hear that. You do have to be very alert now a days.
Certainly, it is less and less easy to ride a Vision, but I don't see any bike that can replace it for me, so I will do my best to make it my last bike, even if it starts to cost me enough money, now I have to change direction and maybe the wheel, Right rear HP (the left one was 1 month ago) at the same time as I had the side stand and its broken support changed while I was refueling, 800 euros still and I am asked for the next repairs (with rear tire) 1600 euros, aye, but La Vision still has 98 000 km ( 60894 miles so.) but has a brand new clutch and runs like a Vision ^^ .
Visionary Greetings ;-)
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Thanks, the Victory is in deed a great bike and if you love it, you should keep it. Ride safe!
Trade-in value; 2008 Harley-Davidson FLHTCU Electra Glide Ultra Classic ...$8125. Boom!
That's great, but then I would have spent the last ten years riding a bike I didn't want.
It does sound temping. In fact, I am wearing my Nashville Harley shirt today. There were some fine ladies selling t-shirts...but they would just get me in trouble.