Hey Richard that was a real pleasure to watch. So did you and your brothers eat the fish? It looked big enough for the 3 of you to have a full plate each. I really like your editing on you videos. 👏👍
Thanks David! I try to make videos that are enjoyable to watch....I am slowly getting better at it I think. Good editing makes up for lacking of maching skills a lot! LOL 😊 Yes, Dolphin Fish (Mahi Mahi) is one of the best eating fish in the sea. Always appreciate you taking the time to watch ~ Richard
Nice parts Richard! I agree, you didn't need a steady rest to put a center hole in that bar. No side load. I liked all the details you included--the shearing tool, trying out the boring bar, etc. Really good stuff. Your Atlas sounds so much smoother than mine! Nice Mahi Mahi. We've got to drive out at least an hour to hit the Gulf Stream from where I live. I'm jealous of you Floridians.
Thanks Rick, hope all is well. I was happy with those parts, customer was as well so was a good day in the shop. Yes, the fishing trip was fun, we had a blast. Make a trip to the keys someday, you wont regret it :)
Good to here from you Richard. The old girl served you well this time. You didn't verbally abuse her to bad. Lol. Calling her to small but once. Lol. Very good work. As the old saying goes if a job is worth doing it's worth doing well. And you achieved that.
Thanks for the tutorial on that shear tool, I have considered making one for a long time. Your video shows exactly what to expect and how to set up for it. Thanks and cheers.
Love the shear tool, found about it some years ago and find it an excellent for finish, and seems to be overlooked in so many of the machinist channels I watch Cheers
Jason, I plan on doing an entire video on it because lately I been getting a lot of questions from people like yourself. I didnt invent this and I am sure there are plenty of videos on youtube about it. I learned of it in a video from a fellow youtuber I watch, his channel name is called "XYNUDU", if you search his videos you will come across it. I plan on making one so I can directly link people to it ~ Richard
Great video Richard. Although I was taken back a little with the drawing in both English and Metric dimensions. I also need to grind one of those shearing tools and give it a go. The fishing trip looked like it was blast! Thank you for posting and sharing with the rest of us. Joe
Thanks Joe! I have lotsa viewers across the pond so trying to remember to be mindful. You need a shearing tool so your last cut to diameter is a good finish. The trip was fun!!!
Yes and yes, no more than that. Normally just one thou. Its not a turning tool...strictly for a finishing cut to avoid sanding. I went with a light sand and scotchbrite only because it was a new client and wanted to give a great 1st impression. But it wasnt really needed
Carbide always seems to give a better finish on heavier cuts. Chips: Check out Joe Pies video on C's and Sixes. - Nice shear tool work. Finished products looked great. - Always good to spend time with your brothers. Looks like a good time was had by all.
I watched Joe's video on that subject, was a good vid. I was removing very little here so carbide probably wasnt the best choice but it all worked out in the end. The customer was really happy. Yes...the fish trip was awesome! 😊
I sort of understand what's going on even though I probably missed all the intricate details. Not a machinists but I do enjoy watching your videos. Nice catch!
My first attempt at grinding a right hand lathe tool sucked, back rake was too deep and it blunted after the first pass. I was going to regrind it until I turned it 90° and discovered it was the perfect profile for a shear tool :) Liking what I've seen so far so I've subbed, still watching your back catalogue but looking forward to seeing more ;)
I love recovery things like this to bail folks out and get their equip back working. I was blessed to do one off things like this for a good part of my working life. I really miss it. LOL on "Where did those go ! " Story of my life esp now with age, LOL. As I remember hot rolled was always a crap shoot with finishes. Oh well I suppose that is why they make files and sand paper eh.I made a shear tool and along with a bit of "Rapid Tap" it is a real savior. Thanks a bunch for that one fella ! The only suggestion I have is instead of using a parting tool for the thread relief is that I found a 1/8 or smaller round nose tool allows for that needed relief between thread and the bar. No sharp edges to set up a fail line if that makes any sense ? Great job bud. I can watch you work all day fella......Dean......
Yeah, the shear tool has really been a blessing to me as well. I agree with your thinking on the thread relief tool and have a HSS bit I will use in the future....good advice there...I hate parting tools anyway, only tool I ever had a crash with...LOL As always thanks for the kind words Dean
Any time bud. I like your stile and commitment to what yer up to and if I can help in any way you just holler bud. Like I said, Great to see ya again !
Enjoyed it and the finished parts looked nice. I have three things for ya. The first tool you used it looked like the insert tip was broken off. The smaller the nose radius of an insert the smaller the depth of cut you have to take before it breaks chips. Tool angles (the ones built into the holder) play into that as well but that's a good starting point. Thread wires are very cheap and you already have the mic to use with them.
Thanks Renegade. Whats funny is I can use those exact tools (and inserts) on aluminum and get great results. Also great results on what I call "good steel" like 4140 or stainless. But ever since owning this lathe (small lathe) I have never been able to get a good finish on hot rolled bar stock ever. I was gonna go grind a HSS bit with a nose radius but decided it wasnt worth it at the time. A thread mic is more up my alley, I cant even use chopsticks let alone 3 tiny wires...LOL ~ Richard
Ya grinding lathe bits it's something I have to grow into myself for my home shop. At work we have various inserts with different nose radii, chip breakers, edge prep, ect. Also we have tool holders with different geometry. So it's easy for us to try different stuff. For the depths your taking I'm thinking you need to be around a .0156 nose rad which would be like a 331 with a very light radius along the top of the cutting edge. The last number (1) is the nose radius (some people don't know this) in 1/64 inch increments. You could also try taking a heavier cut at a slower feed (if you already pushing you horsepower/rigidity limits) to try an activate to chip breaker. Aluminum is pretty forgiving but it does prefer sharp tools. Stainless can be be a pain depending on the alloy. 400 series generally chips beautifully. 300 while not that bad doesn't chip as well. That's for general use stuff not the nonsense that's up between 50 and 65RC. I think you should be very proud of your mini job shop.-cheers
Apparently you, like myself, do not have a followrest. I think I'm going to have to make one if I can't find one we'll see. Thank you Richard, nice work and nice video. Richard
Thanks Dan, I have been behind in my video making but I just wrote that down on my list of video subjects to do and will make one. I have had others request I make a video on it~ Richard
Its the camera....I saw that too.....the camera gets wigged out by the spinning chuck and doesnt know what to focus on. I have noticed this before in other footage and it freaked me out LOL
Like the video! If possible could you tell me where I can get where I can get a live center like the one in the video. I really like the narrow profile. I think I could get closer to the the work near the tailstock. Thanks in advance.
A follow rest is one of the few things I dont own for this lathe but need. Was the main reason why I stopped hogging at .030 or so oversized...so I could sneak up on .500 with light cuts. If the finished size was any smaller it woulda been problematic...good observation on your part sir ~ Richard
For turning such a long and thin part (4min50sec) should you not use a follow rest to get the same diameter along the whole length? You also should measure the diameter not just in one place (6min10sec). Don't you have a follow rest? It's a fine project for 2 or 3 more videos... ;-)
For sure. There is quite a number of home made steady rest projects in youtube land. Some using weld fabrication, casting, rebuilding damaged ones. So a follow rest is even simpler and could use the same methods as in the steady rest projects. Check them out first and then make a plan of attack that suits your available tools and processes. Don't hesitate to use ideas from the other projects. See 5 links below -> th-cam.com/video/xoVeVUzDfb0/w-d-xo.html Keith Fenner rebuilding remains of a steady rest by brazing, plasma cutting and welding. th-cam.com/video/zWeGc34fgNQ/w-d-xo.html weld fabrication from scratch th-cam.com/video/nMRHSFsjEdo/w-d-xo.html&lc=z23wh5552kunhtjejacdp431gxzr3a0sbifrz5j2ho5w03c010c.1534461541386533 alu casting a steady rest. th-cam.com/video/JhgLyP_Herg/w-d-xo.html Follow rest weld fabrication. th-cam.com/video/aGT1nTCJvTM/w-d-xo.html Xynudu machine and screw together steady rest. and probably more...
Hey Richard that was a real pleasure to watch. So did you and your brothers eat the fish? It looked big enough for the 3 of you to have a full plate each. I really like your editing on you videos. 👏👍
Thanks David! I try to make videos that are enjoyable to watch....I am slowly getting better at it I think. Good editing makes up for lacking of maching skills a lot! LOL 😊 Yes, Dolphin Fish (Mahi Mahi) is one of the best eating fish in the sea. Always appreciate you taking the time to watch ~ Richard
Richard, good work sir.
Thanks John!
A metal whittler and fisherman. You sir, understand the finer things in life. Subscribed.
That made me smile! 😊 Thanks!
u are getting great surface finish on that thread . I never knew it was possible with a HSS tool.. :)
Thanks!
Never seen a shear tool before and I have worked in a machine shop most my working life. Must try it myself.
On really crappy steel like hot rolled they work great as a finish pass. Thanks for watching Humphrey ~ Richard
On nice equipment surface finish probably isnt a problem to achieve.....I have an Atlas 12"...LOL
Me too, though mine is the common 12" Atlas. I never use commercial tool bits and prefer to grind my own brazed ones.
Try one out, you will love it
Nice parts Richard! I agree, you didn't need a steady rest to put a center hole in that bar. No side load. I liked all the details you included--the shearing tool, trying out the boring bar, etc. Really good stuff. Your Atlas sounds so much smoother than mine! Nice Mahi Mahi. We've got to drive out at least an hour to hit the Gulf Stream from where I live. I'm jealous of you Floridians.
Thanks Rick, hope all is well. I was happy with those parts, customer was as well so was a good day in the shop. Yes, the fishing trip was fun, we had a blast. Make a trip to the keys someday, you wont regret it :)
Good to here from you Richard. The old girl served you well this time. You didn't verbally abuse her to bad. Lol. Calling her to small but once. Lol. Very good work. As the old saying goes if a job is worth doing it's worth doing well. And you achieved that.
Thanks Anthony....I bought her flowers for Mother's Day 😊
Makin Sumthin From Nuthin she still loves ya.
Great work well done Richard. Looks like you had a good time on the fishing trip also.
I did Frank! Thx for watching till the end! LOL
Thanks for the tutorial on that shear tool, I have considered making one for a long time. Your video shows exactly what to expect and how to set up for it. Thanks and cheers.
I plan on doing a more in-depth video on this tool. Thanks for watching this video~ Richard
Finishing is awesome.
Thanks Nagaraja! 😊
Love the shear tool, found about it some years ago and find it an excellent for finish, and seems to be overlooked in so many of the machinist channels I watch Cheers
Yes, I love it Eldon....it appears in all my vids usually
Any links to purchase a tool like this?
Jason, I plan on doing an entire video on it because lately I been getting a lot of questions from people like yourself. I didnt invent this and I am sure there are plenty of videos on youtube about it. I learned of it in a video from a fellow youtuber I watch, his channel name is called "XYNUDU", if you search his videos you will come across it. I plan on making one so I can directly link people to it ~ Richard
Here is a link to the first of two videos Mr. Pete did on the shear tool.
th-cam.com/video/WUcyHenjkew/w-d-xo.html
Great video Richard. Although I was taken back a little with the drawing in both English and Metric dimensions. I also need to grind one of those shearing tools and give it a go. The fishing trip looked like it was blast! Thank you for posting and sharing with the rest of us.
Joe
Thanks Joe! I have lotsa viewers across the pond so trying to remember to be mindful. You need a shearing tool so your last cut to diameter is a good finish. The trip was fun!!!
So what would be a normal depth of cut with the shearing tool? A thou or two?
Yes and yes, no more than that. Normally just one thou. Its not a turning tool...strictly for a finishing cut to avoid sanding. I went with a light sand and scotchbrite only because it was a new client and wanted to give a great 1st impression. But it wasnt really needed
Carbide always seems to give a better finish on heavier cuts. Chips: Check out Joe Pies video on C's and Sixes. - Nice shear tool work. Finished products looked great. - Always good to spend time with your brothers. Looks like a good time was had by all.
I watched Joe's video on that subject, was a good vid. I was removing very little here so carbide probably wasnt the best choice but it all worked out in the end. The customer was really happy. Yes...the fish trip was awesome! 😊
Excellent, as always
Thanks Gene, I appreciate ya~ Richard
I sort of understand what's going on even though I probably missed all the intricate details. Not a machinists but I do enjoy watching your videos. Nice catch!
Thanks! The fish was nicer than the parts! LOL
My first attempt at grinding a right hand lathe tool sucked, back rake was too deep and it blunted after the first pass. I was going to regrind it until I turned it 90° and discovered it was the perfect profile for a shear tool :)
Liking what I've seen so far so I've subbed, still watching your back catalogue but looking forward to seeing more ;)
Gladded you stopped by! Hand grinding tools is a great skill to acquire
Nice work.
Thanks!! 🤗
Nice work. I like the nice finish.
Thank You for that!
Glad I am subscribed.
Am happy you are happy 😊
Great video Richard! I have cut a lot of that hot rolled mild steel myself, hate that stuff!
Thanks Randy, he was happy with those parts 😊
Many Thanks Randy! Hope you got my email..... I appreciate ya! ~ Richard
Nice work...thanks for sharing.
Thanks J! :)
I love recovery things like this to bail folks out and get their equip back working. I was blessed to do one off things like this for a good part of my working life. I really miss it. LOL on "Where did those go ! " Story of my life esp now with age, LOL. As I remember hot rolled was always a crap shoot with finishes. Oh well I suppose that is why they make files and sand paper eh.I made a shear tool and along with a bit of "Rapid Tap" it is a real savior. Thanks a bunch for that one fella ! The only suggestion I have is instead of using a parting tool for the thread relief is that I found a 1/8 or smaller round nose tool allows for that needed relief between thread and the bar. No sharp edges to set up a fail line if that makes any sense ? Great job bud. I can watch you work all day fella......Dean......
Yeah, the shear tool has really been a blessing to me as well. I agree with your thinking on the thread relief tool and have a HSS bit I will use in the future....good advice there...I hate parting tools anyway, only tool I ever had a crash with...LOL
As always thanks for the kind words Dean
Any time bud. I like your stile and commitment to what yer up to and if I can help in any way you just holler bud. Like I said, Great to see ya again !
As always thanks for stopping by Dean 🤗
Enjoyed it and the finished parts looked nice. I have three things for ya. The first tool you used it looked like the insert tip was broken off. The smaller the nose radius of an insert the smaller the depth of cut you have to take before it breaks chips. Tool angles (the ones built into the holder) play into that as well but that's a good starting point. Thread wires are very cheap and you already have the mic to use with them.
Thanks Renegade. Whats funny is I can use those exact tools (and inserts) on aluminum and get great results. Also great results on what I call "good steel" like 4140 or stainless. But ever since owning this lathe (small lathe) I have never been able to get a good finish on hot rolled bar stock ever. I was gonna go grind a HSS bit with a nose radius but decided it wasnt worth it at the time. A thread mic is more up my alley, I cant even use chopsticks let alone 3 tiny wires...LOL ~ Richard
Ya grinding lathe bits it's something I have to grow into myself for my home shop. At work we have various inserts with different nose radii, chip breakers, edge prep, ect. Also we have tool holders with different geometry. So it's easy for us to try different stuff. For the depths your taking I'm thinking you need to be around a .0156 nose rad which would be like a 331 with a very light radius along the top of the cutting edge. The last number (1) is the nose radius (some people don't know this) in 1/64 inch increments. You could also try taking a heavier cut at a slower feed (if you already pushing you horsepower/rigidity limits) to try an activate to chip breaker. Aluminum is pretty forgiving but it does prefer sharp tools. Stainless can be be a pain depending on the alloy. 400 series generally chips beautifully. 300 while not that bad doesn't chip as well. That's for general use stuff not the nonsense that's up between 50 and 65RC. I think you should be very proud of your mini job shop.-cheers
I have only been machining for about 18 months....I am slowly learning. Thanks for you great input and for subscribing(?) LOL
ENJOYED , Great job man !
You are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit get some stress proof material or 12L14
No way , It's spot on .. Get some vids up of yur own before you Post that kind thing !!
I believe the end result spoke for itself wouldnt you say?....thats gotta count for something no?
Much appreciated Shawn
You Bet ! .. Still say it was spot on ..
Apparently you, like myself, do not have a followrest. I think I'm going to have to make one if I can't find one we'll see. Thank you Richard, nice work and nice video. Richard
No, I sure dont, but could sure use one! Thanks RTK!
you should make a video on the shear tool I don't know about it the finish looks grate I wish I knew how too make one good job as always .
Thanks Dan, I have been behind in my video making but I just wrote that down on my list of video subjects to do and will make one. I have had others request I make a video on it~ Richard
thanks Richard looking foreword to it .
This may be a camera illusion, but at time 22:54 and following, it looks like the headstock moved. Has it done that before?
Its the camera....I saw that too.....the camera gets wigged out by the spinning chuck and doesnt know what to focus on. I have noticed this before in other footage and it freaked me out LOL
Cool. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Are you making chips in sandals? Hard core! Got more guts than I have for sure.
Yessir.....I have done a dance a few times 😊 Thanks for visiting Jeremy....glad to see you!~ Richard
This has nothing to do with guts it's just stupid
Ohh please, spare me the drama...I was turning .0625 off the OD. Go suit up to work in your garage if you wish
I was beginning to wonder what happened with ya friend. Glad to see another awesome job.
Thank you sir! Mower problems had taken me out of the shop for a bit....and weather....and life LOL
nice .. but u dont need oil in the hole when its rotating? Maybe u have a reason :)
Like the video! If possible could you tell me where I can get where I can get a live center like the one in the video. I really like the narrow profile. I think I could get closer to the the work near the tailstock. Thanks in advance.
That particular one is from Banggood. I been using it about 12 months....its been a decent center considering its cost. Certainly not a Royal :)
good job man.
Thanks Bob
Enjoyed. Like the comments.
Some of my most popular videos are when I dont speak! LOL
A travelling steady would help you preventing flexing on the small diameter rod making the part thicker on the middle
YES!!, wish I had one for the Atlas.....I think Mr. Pete owns most of the ones in this country Lol
No follow rest for something that long and unsupported? I'm surprised it didn't cut a taper from the tool pressure
A follow rest is one of the few things I dont own for this lathe but need. Was the main reason why I stopped hogging at .030 or so oversized...so I could sneak up on .500 with light cuts. If the finished size was any smaller it woulda been problematic...good observation on your part sir ~ Richard
For turning such a long and thin part (4min50sec) should you not use a follow rest to get the same diameter along the whole length? You also should measure the diameter not just in one place (6min10sec). Don't you have a follow rest? It's a fine project for 2 or 3 more videos... ;-)
Yeah, I dont have a follow rest.......would make a great project!
For sure. There is quite a number of home made steady rest projects in youtube land. Some using weld fabrication, casting, rebuilding damaged ones. So a follow rest is even simpler and could use the same methods as in the steady rest projects. Check them out first and then make a plan of attack that suits your available tools and processes. Don't hesitate to use ideas from the other projects. See 5 links below ->
th-cam.com/video/xoVeVUzDfb0/w-d-xo.html Keith Fenner rebuilding remains of a steady rest by brazing, plasma cutting and welding.
th-cam.com/video/zWeGc34fgNQ/w-d-xo.html weld fabrication from scratch
th-cam.com/video/nMRHSFsjEdo/w-d-xo.html&lc=z23wh5552kunhtjejacdp431gxzr3a0sbifrz5j2ho5w03c010c.1534461541386533 alu casting a steady rest.
th-cam.com/video/JhgLyP_Herg/w-d-xo.html Follow rest weld fabrication.
th-cam.com/video/aGT1nTCJvTM/w-d-xo.html Xynudu machine and screw together steady rest.
and probably more...
Always before I do something I watch others do it before starting the project....really helps
So, as I suspected, we all watch AvE. Cool
Ha! Sometimes! 😎
Engage Safety Squints
LOL!!
That drawing has a strange mix of imperial and metric measurements.
Tried to accomodate everyone....I work in imperial
i think your tool is too sharp and try HSS for a better finish.
That job did have its ups and downs....it tried to whoop me! LOL
Good stuff making something from nothing....