Written Guide: Character Creation: Race: Human Background: Street Urchin: Pickpocket 19 Strength 14 Dexterity 16 Constitution 7 Intelligence 14 Wisdom 7 Charisma Feats: Heavy Armor Focus, Shield Focus Deity: Anything not evil as we're going Angel, I chose Erastil Levels 2-20 2. Dodge 3. Weapon Focus: Scimitar 4. Increase Strength every level - Weapon Specialization: Scimitar 5. Combat Reflexes 6. Blind Fight 7. Outflank 8. Improved Critical: Scimitar - 9. Greater Weapon Focus: Scimitar - Weapon Training: Heavy Blades whenever possible 10. Greater Shield Focus 11. Power Attack 12. Greater Weapon Specialization: Scimitar 13. Seize the Moment- Weapon Training: Fighter's Tactics 14. Precise Strike 15. Improved Unarmed Strike 16. Crane Style 17. Dazzling Display 18. Shatter Defenses 19. Hammer the Gap 20. Anything you prefer, we have all the feats we need. Mythic Levels 1. Close to the Abyss - Last Stand 2. Mythic Armor Focus: Heavy Armor: Avoidance 3. Angel - Ever Ready 4. Mythic Improved Critical: Scimitar - Improved Sword of Heaven: Everlasting Flame 5. Master Shapeshifter - Improved Angelic Halo: Piercing Rays 6. Mythic Power Attack - Improved Sword of Heaven: Guide the Faithful 7. Mythic Charge or Unrelenting Assault - Improved Angel Halo: Solar Winds 8. Weapon Specialization: Scimitar - Greater Sword of Heaven: Speed of Light 9. Unrelenting Assault or Always a Chance/Elemental Barrage if you already took this. - Improved Angel Halo: Burning Bright 10. Mythic Weapon Focus: Scimitar - Greater Sword of Heaven - Demon Bane or Abolish Guile Gear Tried to use some different pieces for this build, so I wasn't using a lot of the same items every run. Helmet: Early: Wisdom Headbands or any Combat related helmet - Late: Shy Lily's Helmet or Helmet of Comradery Face: Broken Trickster or Goggles of Piercing Gaze Cloak: The Bound of Possibility or Highest Resistance Cloak Rings: Ring of Triumphant Advance & Ring of Summons Bracers: Bracers of Mighty Boar or Bracers or Slaughter Amulet: Vellexia's Magnifying Amulet or Heartstone of the Night Hag Queen Armor: Early: Highest AC Heavy Armor - Late: Livign Fortress Shirt: Apprentice Robe Belt: Early: Strength Belts - Late: Lizard Tail or Belt of Physical Perfection Gloves: Fencer's Gift or Embroidered Gloves Boots: Ronneck's Sacrifice or Boots of Stampede Weapons: Early: Abrupt Force or Finnean - Late: Rapscallion or Dawnflower's Kiss Shield: Assertion of Dominance or Immaculate Petal Quickslots: Covenant of the Inheritor, Lucky Dice, Old Grimoire
Nice to introduce the new class 😊 Thanks for the video. Maybe to add a sentence or two about which classes for the rest of the party are good to pair with the build you are presenting 😊
@nenadpavlovic8405 my favorite is the Inciter Skald, though the mercenary build I've been working on is Chelaxian Diva. it's been the hardest one for me to get a grasp on
@@nenadpavlovic8405 Daeran can although he wouldn't get the capstone ability at level 20, so I'm not sure how it would be received. I also tested a default Oracle build with him but giving him Cold boosting gear & turning him into a Support/Cold Caster hybrid it worked pretty well.
After testing the build a bit: I would hardly advise to change it a bit. At first: Starting stats: Str: 19, Dex: 14, Con: I think 14 is enough, so we can have 12 Int, Wis: 8 and Char: 12. So we get 5 Skillpoints. I would invest into: Atheltics, Mobility, Knowledge: World (Perception if we start with Monk), Persuasion and UMD. Also i would change the feat order bec. picking Improved Unarmed Strike and Crane Style at 15+16 is too late! We want this esp. to be tanky at the start. In addition to his : For Background choosing: Oblate: Martial Disciple for Improved Unarmed Strike. Now i will give ya 2 options for feats: If you wanna stay pure for the 20er Capstone go on: 1: Dodge, Heavy Armor Focus 2: Crane Style 3: Shield Focus 4: Weapon Focus: X 5: Weapon Spec: X 6: Combat Reflexes 7: Blind Fight /Improved Initiative 8: Outflank 9: Improved Crit: X 10: Greater Weapon Focus: X, Weapon Training: X 11: Greater Shield Focus 12: Power Attack 13: Greater Weapon Spec: X 14: Seize the Moment, Weapon Training: Fighter’s Tactics 15: Precise Strike 16: Dazzling Display 17: Shatter Defenses 18: Hammer the Gap, Weapon Training: Armed Bravery 19: Improved Blind Fight 20: Greater Blind Fight Otherwise: Monk: Traditional Monk (highest saving throws) Background: Street Urchin: Pickpocket and for feats: 1: Dodge, Crane Style and Combat Reflexes (we have improved unarmed strike due to monk class) So we got 4 feats at lvl 1. Now into Defender of the Hearth 2: - 3: Heavy Armor Focus, Shield Focus 4: - 5: Weapon Focus: X, Weapon Spec: X 6: - 7: Outflank, Blind Fight 8: - 9: Improved Crit: X, Gr. Weapon Focus: X 10: Weapon Training: X 11: Greater Shield Focus, Power Attack 12: - 13: Greater Weapon Spec: X, Seize the Moment 14: Weapon Training: Fighter’s Tactics, Weapon Training: Continue into your Weapon of choice 15: Dazzling Display , Shatter Defense 16: - 17: Improved Blind Fight, Greater Blind Fight/ Precise Strike and Improved Initiative 18: Weapon Training: Armed Bravery 19: Hammer the Gap, X= whatever you want 20: - Sorry for so much text but i wanted to give you+people 2 alternative builds. Which one is the better one? Well. Personally i think the lvl 20 Capstone is not rly good bec. it ONLY works if we are getting hit. So i would prefere the 2. option with the monk dip, but also the 1. one is totally fine. I hope you appreciate these suggestions to improve the build. If you find any mistakes tell me ;)
@dmsephiroth thanks for taking the time to do all that! I'm sure people will appreciate a bit more min-maxed build to choose between. I definitely could've made this build stronger with some dips, but sometimes I like making more thematic options rather than full min-maxed. my bloodseeker build I went the full min-max option, but for this build & my Greybor build I didn't go as hard in that aspect. appreciate all the feedback, & I'm sure others will as well!
@@actuallyviz Np pal and i still think people have fun with your pure build too. Esp. at the lower difficulties. And im not playing on Unfair, atm Core slowly going into direction of Hard and there(if you wanna tank) we need some more def early :)
I was wondering if the aoe attack from this archetype would synergise with the dispel effect of the aeon's bane. To be able to dispel groups of enemies at the start of every fight without having to roll for attack would sure qualify as OP. Do you know if it works ?
So: Scusi had not much time the last days. I think the 20% dmg reduction ON HIT is not rly nice, because you don t want to be hit as a tanky char. The dmg ability would be nice if you could spam it, but its only 1x per fight? Sadly the mythic armor feats are still very underwhelming. They should be like FULL str/dex modifier to AC+ touch AC. That way they could comprehent with the pyjama tanks maybe. Also the problem that only the weapons with the highest crit-range are super atm. They should fix that and nerf the trickster-imp-crit feats so other weapons could shine too! For exampke there are some rly nice dwarfen 1hand axes, bastard swords, short swords e.g. e.g. I still like the build and your talking speed is nice too. GJ :) ATM i cannot rly decide which MC to play, so your inspirations are welcomed as usual. (but i think the MC should be a DMG dealer or atleast a rly good supporter/caster)
The AoE ability can only be used once per combat, but the double damage from being hit for 1 round can be used multiple times per combat which is why you want to get hit if you want to make use of it. I agree with you with the viability of both weapons & other gear in this game, that's partly the reason I ran Dual Wielded Earthbreakers in my Titan Fighter build. As for Mythic Armor Feats, I quite like them because I'm pretty sick of pajama tanking & you can use them both Offensively or Defensively but they could maybe get a buff. thanks for watching & hope my current & future builds can help with your MC problem!
@noamto though you won't get 2 Attacks of opportunity, they do two opposite things. one gives an Attack of Opportunity when we crit, & the other gives one if our ally crits which can work with Ranged. from what I saw on Reddit, it's only really worth it when we have the Fighters Tactic feat, though something could have changed in patches since then. if you don't feel comfortable taking it, feel free to change it to something else. thanks for watching!
@@actuallyviz And Outflank works with ranged attacks, that I know personally. So both in that regard Outflank is better, plus it also increases the flanking penalty. How would you benefit from both? If you share them with those who don't have them?
@@noamto the only real benefit is you could not take Outflank on the Ranged character. lets say you were playing a more Feat starved build like Dual Wieling Throwing Axes or Javelin. other than that it was mostly thematic, but also we have 1-2 extra feats in this build & not many other great options, so if you'd like replace Seize the Moment & also any feat at level 20.
@@actuallyviz But you can take outflank on ranged characters. It even works with ray spells. And in my current playthrough I am actually using Wendaug with 2 throwing axes and outflank, and as a ranger even, plus also with Snapshot and PBM so I was fine with feats.
@noamto yeah I was basically trying to say Outflank is better, but if you didn't have room to take Outflank on certain builds Seize the Moment could help make up for that, just not quite as well. sorry if I am being confusing
Written Guide:
Character Creation:
Race: Human
Background: Street Urchin: Pickpocket
19 Strength
14 Dexterity
16 Constitution
7 Intelligence
14 Wisdom
7 Charisma
Feats: Heavy Armor Focus, Shield Focus
Deity: Anything not evil as we're going Angel, I chose Erastil
Levels 2-20
2. Dodge
3. Weapon Focus: Scimitar
4. Increase Strength every level - Weapon Specialization: Scimitar
5. Combat Reflexes
6. Blind Fight
7. Outflank
8. Improved Critical: Scimitar -
9. Greater Weapon Focus: Scimitar - Weapon Training: Heavy Blades whenever possible
10. Greater Shield Focus
11. Power Attack
12. Greater Weapon Specialization: Scimitar
13. Seize the Moment- Weapon Training: Fighter's Tactics
14. Precise Strike
15. Improved Unarmed Strike
16. Crane Style
17. Dazzling Display
18. Shatter Defenses
19. Hammer the Gap
20. Anything you prefer, we have all the feats we need.
Mythic Levels
1. Close to the Abyss - Last Stand
2. Mythic Armor Focus: Heavy Armor: Avoidance
3. Angel - Ever Ready
4. Mythic Improved Critical: Scimitar - Improved Sword of Heaven: Everlasting Flame
5. Master Shapeshifter - Improved Angelic Halo: Piercing Rays
6. Mythic Power Attack - Improved Sword of Heaven: Guide the Faithful
7. Mythic Charge or Unrelenting Assault - Improved Angel Halo: Solar Winds
8. Weapon Specialization: Scimitar - Greater Sword of Heaven: Speed of Light
9. Unrelenting Assault or Always a Chance/Elemental Barrage if you already took this. - Improved Angel Halo: Burning Bright
10. Mythic Weapon Focus: Scimitar - Greater Sword of Heaven - Demon Bane or Abolish Guile
Gear
Tried to use some different pieces for this build, so I wasn't using a lot of the same items every run.
Helmet: Early: Wisdom Headbands or any Combat related helmet - Late: Shy Lily's Helmet or Helmet of Comradery
Face: Broken Trickster or Goggles of Piercing Gaze
Cloak: The Bound of Possibility or Highest Resistance Cloak
Rings: Ring of Triumphant Advance & Ring of Summons
Bracers: Bracers of Mighty Boar or Bracers or Slaughter
Amulet: Vellexia's Magnifying Amulet or Heartstone of the Night Hag Queen
Armor: Early: Highest AC Heavy Armor - Late: Livign Fortress
Shirt: Apprentice Robe
Belt: Early: Strength Belts - Late: Lizard Tail or Belt of Physical Perfection
Gloves: Fencer's Gift or Embroidered Gloves
Boots: Ronneck's Sacrifice or Boots of Stampede
Weapons: Early: Abrupt Force or Finnean - Late: Rapscallion or Dawnflower's Kiss
Shield: Assertion of Dominance or Immaculate Petal
Quickslots: Covenant of the Inheritor, Lucky Dice, Old Grimoire
Was just looking for a defender of the hearth build! Thanks so much!
no problem glad I could help, thanks for watching!
As always so awesome bro!!!! Love to see a dual wield tank angel build if you have a spare time 😁👍👍👍👍👍
@joviccruz4151 thanks bro! I'll add that to the list, I have a few builds I'm working on.
i like how you describe the builds, very nice
@paulpaul5032 thank you! I'm trying to improve video by video, my first few videos were a bit more rough in that regard
Nice to introduce the new class 😊
Thanks for the video.
Maybe to add a sentence or two about which classes for the rest of the party are good to pair with the build you are presenting 😊
welcome back & thank you for more good advice, that's a very good idea I'll definitely try to implement that in future videos!
@@actuallyviz as for he mercenary builds, we will probably need a Skald one. It is said that every good party has a Skald 😀
@nenadpavlovic8405 my favorite is the Inciter Skald, though the mercenary build I've been working on is Chelaxian Diva. it's been the hardest one for me to get a grasp on
@@actuallyviz could some of the companions take up a Skald path ? 🙂
@@nenadpavlovic8405 Daeran can although he wouldn't get the capstone ability at level 20, so I'm not sure how it would be received. I also tested a default Oracle build with him but giving him Cold boosting gear & turning him into a Support/Cold Caster hybrid it worked pretty well.
Yay another build :) !
@@dmsephiroth welcome back! and glad you enjoyed it
Hell ya!
nice
After testing the build a bit: I would hardly advise to change it a bit.
At first: Starting stats: Str: 19, Dex: 14, Con: I think 14 is enough, so we can have 12 Int, Wis: 8 and Char: 12. So we get 5 Skillpoints.
I would invest into: Atheltics, Mobility, Knowledge: World (Perception if we start with Monk), Persuasion and UMD.
Also i would change the feat order bec. picking Improved Unarmed Strike and Crane Style at 15+16 is too late! We want this esp. to be tanky at the start.
In addition to his : For Background choosing: Oblate: Martial Disciple for Improved Unarmed Strike.
Now i will give ya 2 options for feats:
If you wanna stay pure for the 20er Capstone go on:
1: Dodge, Heavy Armor Focus
2: Crane Style
3: Shield Focus
4: Weapon Focus: X
5: Weapon Spec: X
6: Combat Reflexes
7: Blind Fight /Improved Initiative
8: Outflank
9: Improved Crit: X
10: Greater Weapon Focus: X, Weapon Training: X
11: Greater Shield Focus
12: Power Attack
13: Greater Weapon Spec: X
14: Seize the Moment, Weapon Training: Fighter’s Tactics
15: Precise Strike
16: Dazzling Display
17: Shatter Defenses
18: Hammer the Gap, Weapon Training: Armed Bravery
19: Improved Blind Fight
20: Greater Blind Fight
Otherwise:
Monk: Traditional Monk (highest saving throws)
Background: Street Urchin: Pickpocket and for feats:
1: Dodge, Crane Style and Combat Reflexes (we have improved unarmed strike due to monk class) So we got 4 feats at lvl 1.
Now into Defender of the Hearth
2: -
3: Heavy Armor Focus, Shield Focus
4: -
5: Weapon Focus: X, Weapon Spec: X
6: -
7: Outflank, Blind Fight
8: -
9: Improved Crit: X, Gr. Weapon Focus: X
10: Weapon Training: X
11: Greater Shield Focus, Power Attack
12: -
13: Greater Weapon Spec: X, Seize the Moment
14: Weapon Training: Fighter’s Tactics, Weapon Training: Continue into your Weapon of choice
15: Dazzling Display , Shatter Defense
16: -
17: Improved Blind Fight, Greater Blind Fight/ Precise Strike and Improved Initiative
18: Weapon Training: Armed Bravery
19: Hammer the Gap, X= whatever you want
20: -
Sorry for so much text but i wanted to give you+people 2 alternative builds.
Which one is the better one? Well. Personally i think the lvl 20 Capstone is not rly good bec. it ONLY works if we are getting hit. So i would prefere the 2. option with the monk dip, but also the 1. one is totally fine. I hope you appreciate these suggestions to improve the build.
If you find any mistakes tell me ;)
@dmsephiroth thanks for taking the time to do all that! I'm sure people will appreciate a bit more min-maxed build to choose between. I definitely could've made this build stronger with some dips, but sometimes I like making more thematic options rather than full min-maxed. my bloodseeker build I went the full min-max option, but for this build & my Greybor build I didn't go as hard in that aspect. appreciate all the feedback, & I'm sure others will as well!
@@actuallyviz Np pal and i still think people have fun with your pure build too. Esp. at the lower difficulties. And im not playing on Unfair, atm Core slowly going into direction of Hard and there(if you wanna tank) we need some more def early :)
I was wondering if the aoe attack from this archetype would synergise with the dispel effect of the aeon's bane. To be able to dispel groups of enemies at the start of every fight without having to roll for attack would sure qualify as OP. Do you know if it works ?
@michaelhubert1153 I'm actually not sure but if so that sounds really sweet. if you have the Toybox mod you could test it pretty easily!
So: Scusi had not much time the last days.
I think the 20% dmg reduction ON HIT is not rly nice, because you don t want to be hit as a tanky char. The dmg ability would be nice if you could spam it, but its only 1x per fight?
Sadly the mythic armor feats are still very underwhelming. They should be like FULL str/dex modifier to AC+ touch AC. That way they could comprehent with the pyjama tanks maybe.
Also the problem that only the weapons with the highest crit-range are super atm. They should fix that and nerf the trickster-imp-crit feats so other weapons could shine too!
For exampke there are some rly nice dwarfen 1hand axes, bastard swords, short swords e.g. e.g.
I still like the build and your talking speed is nice too. GJ :)
ATM i cannot rly decide which MC to play, so your inspirations are welcomed as usual. (but i think the MC should be a DMG dealer or atleast a rly good supporter/caster)
The AoE ability can only be used once per combat, but the double damage from being hit for 1 round can be used multiple times per combat which is why you want to get hit if you want to make use of it. I agree with you with the viability of both weapons & other gear in this game, that's partly the reason I ran Dual Wielded Earthbreakers in my Titan Fighter build. As for Mythic Armor Feats, I quite like them because I'm pretty sick of pajama tanking & you can use them both Offensively or Defensively but they could maybe get a buff. thanks for watching & hope my current & future builds can help with your MC problem!
Why take both Outflank and Seize The Moment? They don't stack with each other, do they? And Outflank is outright better.
@noamto though you won't get 2 Attacks of opportunity, they do two opposite things. one gives an Attack of Opportunity when we crit, & the other gives one if our ally crits which can work with Ranged. from what I saw on Reddit, it's only really worth it when we have the Fighters Tactic feat, though something could have changed in patches since then. if you don't feel comfortable taking it, feel free to change it to something else. thanks for watching!
@@actuallyviz And Outflank works with ranged attacks, that I know personally. So both in that regard Outflank is better, plus it also increases the flanking penalty.
How would you benefit from both? If you share them with those who don't have them?
@@noamto the only real benefit is you could not take Outflank on the Ranged character. lets say you were playing a more Feat starved build like Dual Wieling Throwing Axes or Javelin. other than that it was mostly thematic, but also we have 1-2 extra feats in this build & not many other great options, so if you'd like replace Seize the Moment & also any feat at level 20.
@@actuallyviz But you can take outflank on ranged characters. It even works with ray spells.
And in my current playthrough I am actually using Wendaug with 2 throwing axes and outflank, and as a ranger even, plus also with Snapshot and PBM so I was fine with feats.
@noamto yeah I was basically trying to say Outflank is better, but if you didn't have room to take Outflank on certain builds Seize the Moment could help make up for that, just not quite as well. sorry if I am being confusing
another one